WHOA That's Good Podcast - The Blessing

Episode Date: November 18, 2020

Kari Jobe joins Sadie to share about her new album, The Blessing. Listen in as they have a heartfelt and honest conversation about overcoming fear and tormenting thoughts, parenthood, and the stories ...behind some of the songs on The Blessing. Kari Jobe is a Grammy-nominated worship leader, who has lead people into the presence of God all across the globe. Kari’s latest album, The Blessing, released October 23rd and is available now.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Miss Carrie Jobe is in the house. Oh, you are. You are. You are. You are. You are. Welcome. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:54 So excited. Yes. And I'm excited we get to do this in person, like I said. Yes. And so sweet. I feel like I need to like really freshen up on my people skills. I know right. That's so emotional skills.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Can I hug you, should I? Just bump your hand, I don't know. It's true, we have not been around people, so this is so nice. Well, we'll get started with the question I ask everybody, which we just talked about, can be an intimidating question. We can.
Starting point is 00:01:19 But what is the best piece of advice you've ever been given? You know, I don't remember where I heard this. It's just something that's just really stuck with me. And I think it's like really in the fabric of my heart now, because I, the Lord will even bring it up to me when I forget about it. But it was comparison will always steal from their creativity and calling on your own life. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:01:42 And it's so true. Because when we look at someone else's life or what they're doing or what they're called to and we compare maybe what we're doing and think, well, I'm not doing it that way. It doesn't look this way. We know. I think it steals from, it's true. It steals from what we're called to. It can even steal from you being creative in your own right and what, you know, you feel you're supposed to be doing.
Starting point is 00:02:06 So that's so good. That's literally like in the heart of liver original too, like what we talk about. It's like you have to be confident in who you were originally created to be. That's right. Because if you start comparing it to steel and I still struggle with that sometimes,
Starting point is 00:02:19 like yesterday I was at this conference and Alex Ceeley was there, which I love her and her y'all are so close. Yes. I was like, you know, I've at this conference and Alex Ceeley was there. Which I love. Her and her y'all are so close. Yes. I was like, you know, I've been struggling today because I was gonna speak and I was the last one and everybody else was just like, so smart and so factual and so bold and strong.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And I was like, I don't really talk like that. And she just started going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And she's like, yeah, you don't talk like that. And that's not your annoying thing. no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no but she's awesome. So that's so good. I love that advice. I'm so excited to talk to you about your new album, The Blessing. It's like literally went all around the world, especially the song, but the album too. And when your album came out, I've had so many friends like sending me like this song.
Starting point is 00:03:15 This song, oh, you're not listening to this. It's just wrecked me like no joke. I've had several friends text me just different ones from the album. And so this is super exciting. I know this album was different than other albums because you had to do it without a live audience. You're making me emotional.
Starting point is 00:03:30 It's so good. It's amazing, but I know you did it without a live audience. Was that hard for you to go there in the midst of knowing that this is just totally a different time. You know? The idea of doing it that way before I stepped into the room and felt the anointing and the team was with me. The idea of it before I cried my eyes out.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I mean, I really had to, I feel like it was like grief. I kind of feel like I grieved. The worshipper is not being there with me. And you know, as a worship leader, as a speaker, like we love to connect with the heart of people. Cause that's what we're called to do. And so I was like, Lord, how, like, how am I gonna do this? I won't be able to see anyone's faces.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I just feel like the Lord was like, but I'll be there. Well, I'm like, well, of course, you'll be there. But I think sometimes we just think, oh, wow, you're right. And yeah, that'm like, of course, she'll be there. But I think sometimes we just think, oh, wow, you're right. And yeah, that whole like idea of we do worship the audience of one, I just had to dig into that. It's good. And I think what helped is we had experienced a lot of really strong moments doing the live streams for church. And there were no
Starting point is 00:04:40 people in the room for those. Yeah, it's true. And you just kind of realize you're worshiping with your friends on stage, so you're not alone. Yeah. Speaking in a room alone would be hard to me. I do know. Because you're like, you can't vibe off of anyone. You're just literally having to follow the Holy Spirit. But it actually ended up being one of the most sacred things
Starting point is 00:04:59 I've ever. Wow. And now I'm like, maybe I'll always do it without the people. That's awesome. I mean, not that it always do it without the people. That's awesome. I mean, not that it's not sacred when the people are there, of course it is. But there's just like this different,
Starting point is 00:05:10 I closed my eyes most of the time and I just was so focused on the father and just like this conversation and all the songs, I just felt so connected to the Lord and Henry produced it and he was like, take your time. Wow. There's no rush. I didn't have to like transition moments for people
Starting point is 00:05:26 or like things you think about as a worship leader. I didn't have to worry about some of those things. That's cool. It kind of made it neat. That's so cool. You can hear that. Like in that album it literally sounds like you are just talking to the father.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And it's so sweet. And I think that that's super encouraging for everybody right now, whether you're a worship leader or a speaker, if you're at home alone or you've felt that isolation, just that reminded like dig into the fact that God is there. I remember whenever I COVID and I was sick for two solid weeks and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:56 already quarantined before that because my family had it and so I hadn't been around people and I had one night where I was just like, Christian, I'm gonna go sit in the car and I just need a worship. And man, it was one of the most sacred moments ever. I'll actually will never forget that. And I hope I never forget that moment because it was me pressing past the feelings
Starting point is 00:06:18 that I've had, the isolation, the loneliness and just saying, like, God, I know you're here. I'm just gonna keep worshiping you. Like, as if you were right here in the moment and I feel great. And it was just a really cool moment. So I love how you said I had to dig in. Because sometimes you do have to dig in. And then it's of these moments that are really hard. Okay. So I want to talk about the blessing the song because obviously it is just like it is so cool as a friend as a person watching from afar Seeing just that song go across the whole world and just how it impacted people and it was really cool So when Christian I found out we were pregnant
Starting point is 00:06:55 That was like the first song like saying over like our child Thinking about that like in a thousand generations and your children and their children, and it's just so beautiful. But when y'all were in that room and writing that song, did y'all know like the strength that carried like the annoyance that was on it or were y'all kinda like, well this is good, we'll see, or was it more?
Starting point is 00:07:16 It was more the second part, like this feels really good and special, but you always wanna try it in a room to know like, oh, is this going to connect with people or is this just like, we've been here too long and we should get some fresh air. Yeah. So we had written all day and we're finally getting to bed.
Starting point is 00:07:35 It was like one in the morning and the elevation team stayed longer to work on the demo and they sent it through it like one in the morning. And so I'm crawling into bed and Cody was like, you need to listen to this, grab your AirPods. So I get them and I, no joke, I lay in bed with just warm tears running down my cheeks and I was like, this feels really special. And it just felt so sweet.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like listening to these promises we've believed and said, heard, you know, all growing up, I was raised in a Christian home. So I heard they're ironic blessing a lot. And just that in your coming and you're going and you're weeping, just different blessings of God, I'd heard that kind of stuff my whole life. But in the context of hearing it all in one place with a beautiful melody with it.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And I just remember thinking, this feels really sweet. Yeah. I can't wait to lead. And we just remember thinking like, this feels really sweet. Yeah. I can't wait to lead. And we let it the next day for the first time. And I, yeah. Wow. You see that on the video?
Starting point is 00:08:32 Yes. That is the rest of it. We watched it a million times. I remember when it first came out and Krishna were watching on YouTube, I think I cried every time I listened to it for the first 12 times. Like seriously, I don't run.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I'm a walker, I'm not a runner, but when I was listening to that song, I got in the treadmill, I cranked that sucker up and I was like, can you go? Yeah, I was like sprinting. I remember when she was like, whoa, you were running us, I had the blessing on, there's something on it that you're right, and so exciting to hear
Starting point is 00:09:01 all those promises in one place, and the timing of it was just yeah perfect for what we were about to walk into as a country or as a world we didn't know you know and so that's really cool yeah I know you're obviously a mom of two if nobody else knew that she's a mom and a sweet mom and a wife to Cody and I was thinking about that like I said I was singing that over just our child and thinking about that and Like I said, I was singing that over. Just start a child and thinking about that and declaring that, you know, in this time, I feel like there's so many fears that come,
Starting point is 00:09:31 like even knowing like, we're gonna birth the child into this world. And wow, there's like a lot of bad things and a lot of hard things. As a mom, like, what gives you hope for like your boys and like that next generation to come and the midst of, you know, a lot of trouble. Yeah. It's interesting you're tying like talking about kids right after we talk about the
Starting point is 00:09:52 blessing because that fear of raising kids and bringing them into the world, also just like the attack of the enemy on a mom, I think on a mom dad, of like, you know, what could happen or all these what ifs. This is kind of a big part, I think, of what happened with the blessing, because I was dealing with extreme torment and fear with my boys in the first few years of being a mom. And it was something where it would be like that nagging in the back of your mind, you just, you'd have a fearful
Starting point is 00:10:23 thought and you're just like, ah, yeah. But finally, I got to a point where I was like, I am so tired of constantly feeling like something could happen. And just because my sister dealt with an extreme traumatic, sorrowful experience and that fear, it can grip you as a mom. And so you just have to take authority over these thoughts. And what has helped me the most is just getting the word out and just declaring truth.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It's good, declaring truth. Because it says our minds are renewed by the word. It's so good. I think for a mom, that's also what's kind of pinned up in the blessing. I think maybe those moments where it causes a mom to cry listening to that song is as a mom, I had to kind of dig in with my relationship with the Lord as a mom and just declare,
Starting point is 00:11:10 I'm going to believe these truths instead of the tourmaning spirit of fear. And there were some nights even maybe a year before we rode the busing, where in the middle of the night I couldn't sleep. I was super fearful. Silly stuff, like I would go check, did I unplug the toaster? Is there gas coming through the, you know, stuff? Like things were like, I just was so nervous and fearful constantly checking. And finally one night I got up and I just was like,
Starting point is 00:11:37 that's enough. And that's a very nice way of putting it. I was, I got really fervent that night and just began to like, I almost woke everyone up in the house. I got really fervent that night and just began to like I almost woke everyone up in the house. I was that fervent in my prayers and in my declarations of that's enough. I'm going to believe the things that the word of God says over my life and over my babies. You won't steal from me anymore. That's enough. You know, so that is so good. It's a long answer but no. I need to hear that. I just opened up to a Bible study group about this because I was like, it's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Like when you find out you're a mom, like, there's so much gratitude. And then at the same, like, it's almost the same moment. There's so much fear. And I had a friend that had a miscarriage and my sister had a miscarriage. And it's like, you just start to think like, what if this happens? What could happen? All this stuff. And I remember talking to somebody and I was like, I just feel like it's like you just start to think like what if this happens what could happen all this stuff. And I remember talking to somebody and I was like I just feel like
Starting point is 00:12:27 it's so hard because you have to have so much faith because you can't see it. Like once you do and they're like no once you do you'll still have fear if you don't deal with it now. Like you'll still have that fear. You'll still feel like you need to check everything and make sure everything's okay and every little thing will make you afraid and so they're like if you don't surrender that right now. Like you're gonna have to later it's gonna keep nagging and so that's such good advice like you need to get serious about your fear whether it's about a child or about just fear in general. And what you believe about the character of God.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yeah that's good. That right there was what set me free. So that it set me free. It's that I've been able to overcome those tormenting thoughts and I take authority over faster and don't let them have a hating in my mind. But Alex is actually one of the ones that helped me with that because she said to me one night, you need to resolve in your heart what you believe about the character of God for yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:23 That's so good. Not for other people, but inside internally. And I remember that was a rough night for me. It was just this night that actually something had happened with Kingston at seven weeks old. He fell into some water in his stroller. Wow. It was a really wild traumatic experience at Radner Lake. Wow. And I rescued him. He was fine. It actually wasn't as traumatic as I thought it was at first. I was able to get him.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He was fine. But what it did for me though was like, God, I pray all the time for protection and something still happened. And Alex was like, yeah, things are going to happen. We live in a fallen world. We're going to experience some things we don't understand. But she's like, if you don't resolve this in your heart now, you're going to consistently deal with this fear and torment. Wow. And so I remember that night, she said, you need to ask him what he wants you to believe
Starting point is 00:14:18 about his character. And I remember saying to her like, I don't want to do that. And I think there was this fear of what if he says something I don't want to hear. And I think people do it that I think sometimes we don't want to ask the lawyer. It's really good, something, because it's like, what if he says something that I don't want to have to walk through? I have a friend who, her child has autism. She didn't want to walk through that.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But in the midst of it, she's watching God's beautiful faithfulness. And he's meeting her in places she never even realized she needed him to meet her. Like, those are the things where you see like the grace of God that we don't fully understand. And anyway, well, I got really quiet that night. And I finally just said, what do you want to tell me about your character? And I just kind of waited. And all I heard him say was, you need to know that my character is good. And it's been one of those processes of walking that out to really fully understand what, like what do you mean by that?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. And I think what he means by that is he's just saying he's good, and he turns things for our good because that's all he knows how to do. And so things that we walk through that we don't understand, we can see his faithfulness because he's just good. That's he's going to turn it for good. So that fear element of it, it really helps because it's like, okay, whatever I end up walking
Starting point is 00:15:41 through, got to be there with me. He's good. That's amazing. He's faithful, you know, so. Well, that's so good. I know you say that with tears in your eyes and I bet people on the other side listening have tears in their eyes because fear is so gripping. And I know you sing about that and you're song no fear.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And I even were, I was like, you're like a guide and a friend to people on like how to not fear. And then you go beyond the how and you're like why you should not fear because you declare that God is good that he's there. And so it's cool because everything you say that's in your heart that you're like this is what I want to do is what I experience you really do feel that all in the album. It's amazing. It's that truth, you hear that declared. And so if you're like, I need Carrie to walk around with me and tell me all these things every day,
Starting point is 00:16:30 go listen to the album because she really does to clear that over you and helps you through those moments. I wanted to ask you just because we keep talking about Alex. I think it is really unique that you and Cody are like, really global for church leadership and worship. Everybody knows all songs both of y'all and together. But you also like are a huge part of your local church and like lead worship at your church. Like I remember when I came to the belonging for the first time and you were leading and Lauren was leading
Starting point is 00:16:59 and Natalie was leading and I was like that is really cool. That was so special. All of these people who and it wasn't cool from like, oh, these people are so cool, because yes, they are, but it was cool that y'all choose to stay in that local position important to those body and you're leading globally. And so what is that importance, y'all, as a family that you're so plugged in,
Starting point is 00:17:21 and even help start really the church? Yeah, I mean, yeah, we got to be there from the beginning. I will always be a local church girl. You know, that scripture that says, those who are planted in the house of God will flourish. I've just watched the fruit of that, you know, and it also says in the word to test something by its fruit. And so it's like a bite in me. I will bite in you.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Bite in me as the vine. And it's like, there's just so much richness in our lives by staying connected to godly friends, community, pastoral leadership, that relationship with a pastor or a leader or a mentor can be difficult at times because it's confronting or it's challenging or it's uncomfortable. But the fruit of it is always so incredible. So, you know, and someone like Alex, she's become a dear friend. You know, maybe it's not a pastor in someone's life,
Starting point is 00:18:16 but it's just a godly, someone who has a different perspective. It's good. But I think it's important that they be very, very in tune with the Holy Spirit, full of the word of God. It's good. We can get it's important that they be very, very in tune with the Holy Spirit. Full of the Word of God. It's good. We can get kind of squirly if we don't have
Starting point is 00:18:29 those, maybe a covering or someone that's like, hey, I see some stuff you need to tweak here or watch it. I think you should deal with this in your heart. Like, that's the kind of friendship Alex and I have. That's good. And it's really good. And I think I recommend that for everyone. I think it's really sweet to just also get to pour into people that you see on a weekly basis. And you know the sacrifice of
Starting point is 00:18:54 worship and praise on their life. Like you know the deep things going on in their family. Like my friend with an autistic child, like just doing life with people that it's just normal. Yep. Keeps it very normal. Yeah. And everyone all over the world, no matter where I get to go, I feel like I can connect with them because I have a connection with people just. It's good. And we're doing life with.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Right. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's so important to, and even just for people who, I think sometimes we exchange that for like social media relationships that we get. Yeah. And I would just encourage people who are listening that, you know, you can have relationships on social media and they're a fun element to that. But doing like life on life with people and actually having someone to say, Hey, this is where you might be wrong.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Like the Lord is really speaking this to me. And let me encourage you with this. I'm really walking through this. Like we need that as humans. And I was talking to Louis Giggly about like what makes somebody like a good leader, like someone that you like would, you know, want to speak at your conferences or want to invite. And he's like, I'll always look to see if they're like
Starting point is 00:19:55 plugged into their local church. And if they have a church family around them. Amazing. I think it's really good. Like even just to hear from somebody like him that, that is really important to him that he sees leaders surrounded by church families and like because then he knows that you're not getting scurly, you're not just running off and thinking everything he does right and so yeah I think for everybody listening like that is just good advice period no matter who you are
Starting point is 00:20:17 where you're at like being surrounded by a church family or a mentor or a friend or somebody who is in tune with the Holy Spirit is so important. I would be. Yep. I love this song, Heaven and Vaid on your album. And I was thinking about this, because you talk about that moment where you're in worship and you just kind of like feel like heaven just enter the room. And when you said something about the wind and I thought about a passion, whenever there's
Starting point is 00:20:40 a moment out, I remember seeing you at theie, you were like, I thought that the lurseer, like the whole way, came out of nowhere. I did see you guys like right after. And you were like so shook. And then I heard that they had tried to get that thing to open and they told them no. And then it just randomly, really randomly opened in that moment.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So it really was a God thing. I mean, it really was so cool. And so I wanted you to speak to that to the people who have never had an experience like that, who have never felt, or maybe even been in a worship service. You know, we might have people who are like, I don't actually go to church,
Starting point is 00:21:14 I don't know what this whole thing is about. When we talk about a moment where you just kind of feel heaven, touch earth, where you just kind of feel the presence of God, what does that feel like as a leader in a room where you're like, whoa, it feels like the Lord is here. And what changes in the room? Oh man, this is a loaded question. I know it kind of is. No, it's good though. What changes in the room, you know, we are spiritual beings. So everyone listening, even if you don't have a relationship with the Lord,
Starting point is 00:21:41 you have felt some kind of spiritual experience, somewhere somehow. And we're wired to worship. Like if we don't worship the Lord in his goodness, we will worship things, you know, whether it's fashion or food or, you know, it's like, we are just wired for worship. We're wired for adoration. we're wired for. So when you're in a room and the presence of God comes in, I've never heard someone not say that their arm here didn't stand up and like they got our bodies are just we're wired for the eternal. So we're wired for the supernatural. And so it's fun as a leader when you pray bold prayers. Another thing that was so wild and beautiful about that experience of the roof opening at Passion
Starting point is 00:22:29 was we had just prayed backstage, God I pray. And the presence of God was already moving. And there was so many incredible things going on in that room already. So, but I felt like praying, God I just pray that kids that have an experience you tangibly yet, that you would blow through the room like a mighty wind, and that they would feel you even on their faces.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Wow. And so when the roof opened and that building, it has like a whirlwind effect. So it literally like kind of does this like circular air thing because the way that it opens, so the air comes in and starts to do a circle. So it felt like it's a whirlwind of his presence. So the room. You know, so I think you can ask daring prayers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:13 You can say, I want you to reveal yourself to me. That's cool. Because he does. And it will. You know? Oh, I love that. Especially when you're asking in faith. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You know, not God prove yourself to me, but God, show me something about you that's tangible and real. Yep, I love that. I promise you he'll do it. That is so cool. I feel like, you know, skeptical people would say something like, well, but the room did just open.
Starting point is 00:23:38 So it was not really the Lord. And Christine came to this, she said, you know what, I'll have to say to you, if you think these are coincidences, and she says, the more I pray, the more bizarre things happen. And that's true. She was like, I'll have to say. And so it doesn't hurt to have faith. And when you start to see God move in your life in tangible ways like healing someone or
Starting point is 00:23:59 setting someone free from an addiction, you know, and it's a supernatural thing. Yeah. Then you start to go, wow, okay, God, and it's a supernatural thing. Yeah. Then you start to go, wow, okay, God, I see that you're real. It's a cool. Yeah. It's amazing. It's fun. Lastly, I wanted to ask you is your song First Love.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I think it's so beautiful and it's so special. So I'd love to be free to talk about that. But also, I just love that you just declare you're so my first love. You're so my only one. What is the importance of those words to you? And that declaration that you wrote this song to just almost like reposition your heart back to like your first love. Like, I don't know, I just wanted you to unpack that song because I think it's so beautiful
Starting point is 00:24:39 and it really connects with me and I think really probably everybody, especially in this time where you kind of do need to go back to that first initial love and those feelings that you have when you fell in love with the father or realize he was in love with you. Yes, all of that. It's one of my favorite songs I've ever been a part of writing. From beginning to end, like from beginning, we took communion the morning that we wrote that song. And we spent like two hours on our faces after that, just pouring our hearts out with the Lord. I was with Stephanie Gratzinger and Alyssa Smith and a dear friend and my drummer that's been
Starting point is 00:25:16 with me for years. He's like my brother. Those girls really cultivate and have just carried such an anointing to just like be such good friends with Jesus. And I love that too. That's my favorite thing about knowing the Lord is that we're invited into friendship. It's a relationship. Yeah. And so that song comes out of Revelation 2 where the Lord is addressing one of the churches in Revelation and he's like, I know the things that you love and the things that you hate, but I do have one thing against you that you've left your first love. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And then he says, go back and do the things you did at first. And if you don't, I will remove my lamp stand from its place, which represents his presence. Wow. I will remove my presence. I mean, the idea of him removing his presence from our life, that would be one of the scariest things. It would be the scariest thing because I just live my life based on what is your presence in our life?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Are you in this with me? What are you saying? I want to hear your voice. And so for him to give a challenge and a declarative thing of this is how you need to live your life. You need to seek me first. Stay in love with me. Not just keep me first, but stay in love. Stay in love. Not know about love, not talk about love. And, you know, to be in love, you know, for me to be in love with Cody takes being intentional. takes date nights and being creative,
Starting point is 00:26:47 and not just like printing something off of the computer that someone else says about somebody, but like writing it with my own handwriting, and like saying what the Lord is good. And I think a lot of times we will go to church on a Sunday morning, we'll sing someone else's song, we'll hear someone else's sermon, and we think that we've said everything we should say to the Lord. But having relationship is, God, I want you to be my first love. And not that I had fallen out of love with the Lord,
Starting point is 00:27:16 but I think sometimes just the mundane routine of life. We can just get to a place where it's like gotten stagnant. Very true. You're still in your honeymoon phase, cut it with you and Christian. But I'm about to celebrate six years of marriage. And you know, there's just these ebbs and flows that you begin to get into, which you're seeing even now.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Like, there's days where you're like, I think I'm just gonna go for a walk by myself. You know, there's these ebbs and flows of relationship. I just love the aspect that the Lord invites us into true friendship, and to stay in love. And so good. There's so much that he wants to do in our lives, but he wants to do it because there's deep friendship.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yup, you know. That is so good. I can relate to that. I think especially in this year, because I didn't even realize that I got into a pattern of like, I was always at churches, I was't even realize that I got into a pattern of like, I was always at churches, I was always at conferences, I was always at things and I love listening to other people. So I'm taking in everything everybody else is saying and worshiping and I love it. And then
Starting point is 00:28:15 whenever church is closed, I was like, yeah, like I'm so like, I love you God. Like I just started to realize I'm praying the same prayers like every single day. Like I'm getting like, I love you God. I just started realizing, I'm praying the same prayer. Like every single day. I'm getting like really in the routine of things. And I wasn't reading as much as I showed. I wasn't pursuing as much as I showed. I was almost waiting for church to back up. Instead of like opening up my Bible,
Starting point is 00:28:38 opening up my heart, opening up my life. Like you said, not taking what somebody else said, but actually writing it with your own hand writing. Like that's so beautiful and that's so true. And so staying in love is, it does take intentionality. And I've been challenged by that myself during COVID. And I'm one to like, I love to pursue the Lord. And you know, this is really even hit me in this time, pretty heavy.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And so I know for people who ask me questions like, how do you say, you know, in the routine of, you know, really even hit me in this time pretty heavy. And so I know for people who ask me questions like, how do you say, you know, in the routine of, you know, this or that or reading or praying. And I think it's like forget the routine as much as it's just saying in love, like saying love. In relation to it.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And all of that will kind of help your routine and in relationship. And so that's so good. I mean, if you didn't already love Keri, you really love her now. And if you haven't listened to the blessing, go listen to it, but also listen to it. And I think even hearing these answers, she truly prays over these songs that she writes.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Like they come from a really real place. And so she took communion the day she wrote those songs. And so they really are, I think, a collaboration of prayer and friendship and heartbreak and speaking for what the Lord has mended. And so, I think that album is beautiful. I think you're beautiful. And thank you so much for sharing all of your incredible advice.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Thank you, love you. Love you, friend. Alright, fam. Let's go over some good and bad advice. Y'all, just so you don't forget, we get all of our good and bad advice from the WoW that's good podcast, Instagram, DMs, and our L.O.F. sister app. So be a part of the podcast by sending in your good and bad advice for some entertainment. Alright, baby, you ready?
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm ready. Alright, wind extinguishes a candle, but energizes a fire. Great advice. I sent that question, huh? You sent that, is? Yeah, I energizes a fire. Great advice. I said that question, eh. You said that is? Yeah, I did. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:30 I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:38 I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I wasinguishable if it's by myself, but if I'd surround myself with the community people, then I think the Lord's gonna send that out.
Starting point is 00:30:49 That's so good. I love that. It's like people, you know, say after they go to a conference or something like, oh, I was on a spiritual high and then like I lost it. And I think that's because like they go back from a conference and they try to just like keep it going. Yeah. Like fan the flame of just like a candle and when we'll actually take that out.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Instead of like going back and like joining a church body or joining your group of friends who believe the same thing. And then the wind goes, the fire goes crazy. And there you go, then you got a fire. Got a wildfire. All right, live in the moment. It's good. That's good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I think it's good. What are you, yeah. I think it's good. What are you thinking? You know, I think it's good. No, because sometimes little things like that can be kind of counter-tuitive. They can be like, on the surface, you want to think good, but then you think a little deeper about it, and it's like, I think it is good advice because I think if you start living too much in the past, then you don't like continue to grow. If you start living too much in the future, then you don't like continue to grow. If you start living too much in the future, you probably have anxiety.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's why it's called the present. Yes, live in the moment. Oh, hey, that was good. Well, that's good. I didn't just come up with that. I did. If I did, I would be making a lot of money right now. You may have a idea.
Starting point is 00:32:03 All right, see rejection as protection. See, these fingers, they're getting me. This will be a good time. Yeah, that one is hard, because rejection hurts, but a lot of times it is for your protection. Yeah, a lot of times it is an accountability, but I think sometimes people,
Starting point is 00:32:21 that can be pointed at an envy or like a jealousy. It's like wanting to like reject something. If I'm not on your team, you know, I could reject you, but it's not worth my protection. It's because I don't want you to do that or I'm envious of you. I would have never thought like that. So if you send in that question, I don't know why you were thinking,
Starting point is 00:32:38 but a friend rejection, yes, I think it can be for your help, but if it's someone that you don't really trust, then I'd be cautious. That's good. Yeah. That is good. That was a really deep thought.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I feel like we could have talked about that for a longer, but we must continue. It's the thought that counts. I think it's the thought that counts, but sometimes you're like, okay, bro. Yeah, well, my first thought was like, my first thought about that thought was like, if I get you like a gift or something,
Starting point is 00:33:06 it's like, oh, it's the thought that counts. But sometimes I think you can use that as like a cop out. That's what I was saying. Sometimes it has a continual thing. It's like, okay, you've said it's a thought that counts like 12 times a certain not be that. Yeah, because I can look him on life and I think like sometimes like if we're like
Starting point is 00:33:21 talking about something, I can use that as like a being like defensive, oh, it's the dot that counts. So you should just be grateful with that. And sure, you have done that too before. I have done that numerous times. But there are moments where it relates to thought that counts like our wedding gift. Your wedding gift to me.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So I had like been saying I wanted these slides really going, I actually just randomly said it when there's, oh, I love those slides. I went some of the slides. And then one of my wedding gifts was the slides. And I had said it a long time ago, but I didn't even think that you remember it, but they were like two sizes too small. So that was a true.
Starting point is 00:33:51 But that was a neat though. No, that was a neat. Remember, that was the store's problem. That was Nordstrom. That was Nordstrom. No offense. We do love you if you want to sponsor us, come back. But no, we.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Yeah. I ordered like a nine. It was like a six or seven. Which I actually were eight. Again, it's the thought that counts. Ha ha. UK size nine. UK size nine.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Anyways, it really was the thought that counts because I was like so impressed with you that you remember that I said that. I like your size eight, but then you did into order those shoes and there was seven and a half. Thank you. You said nine. I like that again. I know your size eight, but then you did into order those shoes. And there was seven and a half. Thank you. You said nine.
Starting point is 00:34:28 This keeps the questions going. Okay. This is a good, this is a really good thought. If you can't afford virtual reality headsets, you can close your eyes and imagine everything you want. I think that's true. I think what? I don't know if that's true. It's not true because some of those things are actually pretty legit. I don't own one, but I've been to Best Buy and I've kind of put them on before.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And they're pretty cool. But I think sometimes by that being your first option, sometimes we lose our creativeness. Oh, that's good. I think when I was younger, I would let you rather be imaginative with my brother than going to put on, going to isolate myself in a room and just putting on a head.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I do hope that virtual reality doesn't take away from our imagination and creativity. Like, you know, because sometimes I never, no, I hope it doesn't. Like I'm saying, it could. Because sometimes whenever you have a better experience than the experience that you had, even though it was good, like, okay, for instance,
Starting point is 00:35:29 six fights is awesome. And you get a Disney world and you're like, six fights is still great, but Disney world is amazing, you know? Yeah, Disney world more than six fights. No, because actually, six fights are right. But I'm about to talk about like the, just the, wow, it's Disney.
Starting point is 00:35:41 So it's like, wow, virtual reality. And you're like, oh my imagination. I hope we don't get to that point. Because your imagination is way more creative. And your imagination is gonna actually create things that the world needs, not virtual reality. But hey, it is cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 If you're listening to this new work at Disney, we'd love Disney, we'd love to come. And I also went to Sixth Box for like four of my birthdays. Also, love Sixpack. Okay, we out! And Universal Studios if you're listening. Send me a stick of it. I love the whole thing.
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