WHOA That's Good Podcast - The REAL Reason We Signed Up for 'The Bachelor'

Episode Date: December 22, 2021

Sadie is joined by "Bachelor" alums Sean and Catherine Lowe to talk about how they first caught each other's attention, the real reason they signed up to be reality TV stars, how they create a fun-filled home for their kids, and why God, humor, laughter, and fun are so important in their lives. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's exciting because I have some good friends who are going to actually be joining me. I have Sean and Catherine Lowe. You might know them. You might not, but I think you probably do. They're amazing and they're going to join. We're going to have a fun conversation. Oh, I see. I think they're about to join.

There they are. What's up, Sean and Kyle? Hi. Hey. So excited to be on. I was just saying for those of you who are now listening that they kind of go way back for me in my life, my very first liberal, original event. I'm like 17, 18 years old.

I don't know what in the world I'm doing. And I think I literally just text you or message you on Instagram like, hey, do you want to come be a part of my bit? And you said yes. And that is like that really does speak volumes about who you all are. That you would say yes to me when I'm just figuring out life. And you continue to say yes. So thanks for being on my Facebook show.

We're still trying to figure out life on our end. So you keep inviting us. We'll keep showing up. That's great. And we'll all just keep trying to figure out life on our end. So can you keep inviting us? We'll keep showing up. That's great. And we'll all just keep trying to figure out life. Well, for those, I think a lot of people probably do know who you all are. You'll have been around the spotlight for a long time. But if they don't, tell everybody a little bit about your life right now,

currently, and then we'll back up and go way back to how maybe the world knows you a little bit later. But what's your life look like now. Well, r just an old married couple three kids, two boys and they at Mia ages five, three to and it's a zoo at our constantly chasing these l

around and that's kind of the way we like it. It's fun, tons of laughter and love in this house and every day is a little bit different. And it's kind of crazy around here. So fun. Seriously, like that's what you see on social media. Y'all are so much fun and so much laughter, which I definitely want to talk to y'all about. So y'all three kids do you want to have more kids? Three where we're stopping? Or is that just like up in the air? Well originally when we first, I guess, got engaged and talked about a family, I was sure I wanted five. And we were talking about three biological and then maybe adopt two and three is a lot. We're going to try to, we're going to pray about it. We definitely want to talk about, we're in conversation,

about adoption and potentially, but we're just seeing how God leads us in that direction. But so far, three is a lot to be present with, which is really important. If these three kids that we have now would just listen and behave and have that manner, then yeah, we'd love to have more kids. Hey, I totally get it.

Christian and I have actually said the same thing. We wanna maybe have three and adopt as well, but after we had honey, it was like two weeks in, Christian's like, so how many, and I was like, if you guys be right now, I would say maybe two, but yeah, it changes always, but that's how my parents were actually, they had two, and then they were like praying about adoption for a while, but they thought they would have more, weren't

able to get pregnant so they thought years later, ended up saying, God, okay, if you have adoption in our story, then we're open, and they kind of signed up for, you know, went through the process, right? When they did that, they ended up being will who are, you know, a small brother now. They kind of met him through an agency. It worked out, adopted him. And then two weeks later, found out they were pregnant with Bella. Isn't that the way it always happens?

It is. It is. So hey, you really do have to just leave it up to God in his hands because we try to make plans for our life. And sometimes he has a better plan. So that's pretty cool. I love that. Well, for those of people who are listening

who don't know how y'all met, because y'all met in a very interesting way for the world to see, bring us back to where and how the two of you wonderful people met. Oh, man. It's kind of embarrassing. We met on that little TV show called The Bachelor. That was way back in 2012, this one we filmed that show.

That's crazy. Yeah, I did not really watch the show. I don't think Catherine might have watched it more than me. I watched it because. But my sister had signed me up. She's like submitted an application on my behalf, which totally caught me off guard when the show casting director called me.

And long story short, I just thought, hey, it might be a cool chance to take a vacation and travel the world not ever expecting to meet my wife and yeah here we are nine years later. Well I just remember seeing the reason I watched it because I was in a similar situation where my best friend put an application for me to be on the show. And then that season where he was vying for Emily Maynard, I, the guys like get recycled, but they become, one of those top guys, favorite guys, become the actual, or the following season.

So if I were to be cast, because the casting process is like nine months, I wanted to see if I was even interested in any of the guys that would potentially be on it. So I watched his whole season seeing him be a brilliant light without being super preachy. He was very like a very genuine person and I thought, okay well if it's him then I'd be happy to kind of go on and see what happens. And he's very attracted to him, whatever. So then, obviously, I got

to be on the show, and that's how it all began. Wow, that's honestly so cool. That's not embarrassing at all. That's like, again, God having plans, kind of outside of ours. Which is cool because I was going to ask you how you got on the show and it seems like to kind of different people in your life signed you up for this show. So it's maybe not something y'all would have chosen for yourself. So you mentioned Sean being a light and you definitely were. I remember watching that season and I don't really watch a lot of the bachelor just because, you know, sometimes it can be a little little cray cray. You literally did set such a great example without being like so in your face

or preachy. And I'm sure like there are things you saw in cat there in that, you know, was a light in her life as well, which maybe made her stand out amongst everybody. But what was it about the two of y'all that y'all saw on each other in the midst of this crazy experience that you knew like this person has husband and wife material? Yeah. So you nailed it. It was a crazy experience.

So as I said, I was there to like just travel the world and have a free vacation and take a break from reality. And I remember having so much fun with Katherine, like she was so giggly, so bubbly, she had this. The best way I could put it is, like, I just, she was the type of girl that I knew she would be my best friend on top of being my wife. Yeah, that's awesome.

And of course, I started to develop feelings and then I'm kind of freaking out, like, wait a minute, I'm supposed to be taking this free vacation. And I'm like, just constantly praying about it. I'm in the middle of like the most bizarre world you could ever imagine with camera guys and producers. And like, it's, yeah, traveling the world and being treated like a big time celebrity. And it's just, it's the craziest world you could ever imagine. And all the while I'm like praying, like, God,

I've got these strong feelings towards Catherine and where you leading me if this is a mistake, just tell me now. And the best way I can put it is just, I had this piece and I think I would never recommend another believer like going out and proposing to someone who they are not equally yoked with. But I just had this sense like God is doing something in her life. And I, I, you know, I think I want to spend the rest of my life with her. And so I can like

happen and tell you what happens next. But she became a believer shortly after the show, after meeting my family. Wow. And yeah, God's done amazing things in her life ever since. Okay, yes. I definitely want to hear that story. So you didn't, Kevin, you didn't really grow up a believer and when you met Sean, you're interested or what did that, what did that process look like for you? So growing up, my dad was really searching. So he was Lutheran. He was Buddhist. He was in the Presbyterian church. So like we went a ton of different routes in terms of faith But my mom was a devout Catholic So it was very confusing in my household, but it was exciting because I got to see

Different things and why my parents were interested in it and why they also left those different churches, but I was always going to like youth camps and like what's that called living? I don't know, I'm drawing a blank. Well, anyways, I went to, I'm trying to think too. You don't want to talk about that for a minute. Yeah, young life, young life. Like young, probably young life.

And I was so interested in, and I was very drawn to the nice people. And that usually was a Christian crowd. But I never gave my life to Christ or anything. So interested in, and I was very drawn to the nice people and that usually was a Christian crowd, but I never gave my life to Christ or anything. And I saw him on the Bachelorette and I just was mesmerized by how he lived his life. And I thought, okay, if I'm gonna go on a show, it's gonna be for him, but Shalom is in constant conversation with God.

I see him doing his Bible study in the mornings when we were at different locations just from afar seeing his hotel. He could like it's in the balcony and he was doing his Bible study. So I knew the type of man he was. I didn't understand what he needed in terms of a woman of faith. So when it came to, there was a night before he proposed, but I didn't know he was gonna propose. There's two girls left, and at about 11 o'clock at night, the night before we were in Thailand and I get a knock on my door and you're thinking, okay, well, the next day is a really big day.

So I'm gonna get dumped with somebody that I love or he's going to propose to me. So I'm at peace because I'm like, I have a great life. If he doesn't pick me, then I'm going back to a really great life. I'm close to my mom. I have a great job. I had a huge piece about my situation

and what would the future hold. And he knocks on my door at 11 o'clock and you never get to talk to the lead by yourself with no cameras around unless it's the fantasy suite. And so I'm super confused and because it's, again, it's almost midnight, the night before a potential proposal and he wanted to talk to me about face.

Wow. And he was like, you know, I'm not gonna get engaged to somebody unless Christ will be their center of their life. That's gonna be my life. I will not settle for anything other than that type of life. So like he was just prepping me. Wow. If I propose you tomorrow,

is this gonna be what you're centered around? Is this like, because I'm making my intentions known and what I want for my life. If you're not okay with that, don't come tomorrow pretty much. I, that's what I was thinking. Like, hey, these are, these are, this is who I am. Like I know this has been fun and we talk about fun things all the time, but it comes down to it. I was like, dang, 11th hour, you're telling me that I probably already knew, and my heart was,

you know, already understanding that you needed somebody that was Christian, but it was more than that because he is constantly like, I grew up knowing some Christians, but I was not fully understanding how faithful Sean Lois and what he needed as a partner in life. So I took that next day, he obviously proposed,

and the day that I landed in Seattle, when I got home after the show stopped filming. I told my best friend, he's signing up for the show. I said, we're going to church. And so I mean, it's been a really cool story to tell and to live through because his family was a huge part of that testimony too. I knew that I wanted a family like his, whether it was going to be that family or not. So it's been really awesome. And I know that if he didn't choose me because I wasn't Christian, then I probably would have never been a Christian because he knew my heart. He had a conversation with God about it and was constantly

in prayer. So I owe so much to my husband and his family for being such a great witness to me and for standing up for what he believes in and also having a constant conversation with God to know that I was forehand. Yeah. Wow. That is like the coolest thing ever. So yeah, back to that comment. This is definitely not an embarrassing story.

This is an amazing an embarrassing story. This is an amazing, incredible story. And I think one that not that you said your story is embarrassing, but the show because it's embarrassing because the bachelor is so over the top and ridiculous. And just like you, I'm not big enough to watch it. So I don't I don't really watch it. No, I agree. It's a little too scandalous for me. A little scandalous. It's funny because I was so naive going into it. I remember my mom having serious reservations, but I didn't realize why she had reservations.

I was like, what's the big deal? But now I know. Because yeah, there's a lot of scandalous stuff on there. That's hilarious. No, a little scary, but I love the story so much because I think that's the thing though. It's like people think and we experience this whenever I went on dance with the stars.

Like the church kind of freaked out, you know, like the church world people. And we're like, that shows so scandalous and that, you know, you're, you know, just throwing your life away. If you go to Hollywood, you're throwing your faith away and like all this stuff. And I'm like, no, actually, like, I'm going to be a light. Like, aren't we called it to be a light of the world, you know? And I just feel like that's so cool that you went on the show.

And even though you didn't even know really what you were doing, it's not like you went on the show with this intention. No, like, you're like, just kind of winp, but you like, even know really what you were doing, it's not like you went on the show with this intention They're like just kind of went but you like say true to who you are and In saying true to who you are and waking up and doing what you do reading the Bible You actually like went past what you were supposed to do with the camera crew and like knocked on the door and had conversations about faith Like it just shows that God really goes with you wherever you go. Like he is in it all. He goes before you and behind you, he's beside you, he's within you. Like he's all around every situation. And I think some people think that like, oh, well, I'm a Christian, but when I go do this, like, I'll just kind of like have my faith in the background,

but like I'm doing this for me or whatever. But whenever you like live your whole life like it's for the Lord, then God can use any moment for his glory and God can use any moment for your good. Like that happens to be the place where like you met Catherin and Catherin like became like really met the Lord and it's just so cool to hear your story like I didn't know a lot of that part and I just think that's awesome. So after you all got back and you started going to church and you came off of this hive, like living on a show where it is crazy and is ridiculous and there's helicopters and you're entirely in and it's just insane. Because I think sometimes like maybe, maybe because

of the bachelor, I don't know, people kind of expect dating to be like that. It's like just super awesome and perfect and fun and it's like even like in today's coach, like prom puzzles, like the prom, like when you ask him to prom, it has to be amazing and like, everything has to be awesome. But that's not like how real life always is. So what did it look like to transition from that to y'all's dating life? Like what did dating look like from y'all after the bachelor,

after you went off, like got off the helicopters and like started going to church. Well, it was four, so after you stop filming the bachelor, you have about four months until your season ends and your public. So I'm at a drive, so y'all were good in. Yes, and so we saw each other every two weeks to show what set it up so that we could see each other

every two weeks at an undisclosed location in LA. But I went back to Amazon, I was a visual designer at Amazon, so I went back to that job, lived in the same place. It was super bizarre, but I knew that, I was super excited about when the show would air air and I could finally hold his hand in public. So I'd go to church with my best friend and we would have conversations with the pastor right after church and I had a tons of questions. I was 26 and I wasn't a Christian. I didn't understand what was expected of somebody that was a Christian.

And I remember asking a question that was really funny about lust. And I said something like, well, can you lust after you're married? And he was like, no. And I thought, wait, you can't have sexual feelings. I'm gonna do your married. And I've thought, oh my gosh, this is terrible.

You're like, oh no. It's not considered lust when you get married. I was like, oh my god. I was so like, oh my god, all we do is procreate that. Oh no. Oh my god. You're like, hold up. Yeah, because we waited until we were married to consummate our relationship. So, and that was like a huge talking point for all the talk shows that Shalala was on or of course, yes, articles about how he's the version bachelor and that was a small part of his witness. So anyways, that was just really funny to me when I'm walking in,

trying to ask like tangible questions. Have is my life. What does my life look like when I become a Christian? He's like, oh, you can't less. I'm like, oh my God. Like, am I going to be a nut? Like, what's happening? That is hilarious. That's so awesome, though, that like, you genuinely asked the questions, because I think some people just like assume like so many things, but Christianity, because of

the things that they've heard. And like, hey, that would be a legitimate concern. You're like, hold up. Wait, it's like, this is not right. That's awesome. Well, I love to ask you this question And y'all's faith is like so important to y'all and like I said, John You've led so well with that through TV and you can tell and your family's life you lead so well with that and Catherine you do too like what is I'll love to ask this question because Christian I would tell him like this other day and it's just a fun thing to remember the faith on this the God. What is one of the coolest things you've ever seen God do

in your life? And it can be as generic as whatever, or it can be as detailed as there was a flower, a dancehall, as God to see a flower. Whatever it is that you just were like, that was a cool thing God did. If you can think of one off top of your head. Well, mine is easy.

Before I got the call to be on the bachelor at from the casting director when I didn't know that my sister had submitted my application, I was selling insurance, which is kind of the family business in my family. And I just did not like it at all. I knew I didn't want to sell insurance

for the rest of my life. And I would pray every day like, God, if you want me to be here, I'll be here. But you know, I want to do more entrepreneurial things. I want to do things more outside the box. And I want that life. And to see what God had in store for me next, which came through the silly TV show, The Bachelor

and me, my wife, and opening up all these doors and opportunities and to see my life now, which is very much outside the box. And Katherine and I are both very entrepreneurial and we're getting to kind of live out the dream I had back when I was selling insurance. I'm absolutely amazed. Like God gave me exactly what I asked for.

And yeah, it's hard to believe. Like I think God for every single day because I cannot believe I'm blessed enough to have this life which I asked for. And I always think back to like, he's faithful even when we are not faithful. Like there were plenty of times where I kind of strayed from the path and did things my own way or lived selfishly here and

uh man God's faithfulness never fails and so I'm just I'm so grateful and that's that's an easy uh easy one to point to for me. That's so cool gosh it's so cool I love whenever like you pray to God in detail and then he does he like shows up in the detail and then you're like whoa like you really were listening like you really did answer that It's the coolest thing. Catherine. What about you mine mine's a little bit more recent so in February our our pastor's daughter Sadly passed away and she was a couple months younger than me or older than me. She was a really close age to me

and it affected me very much. And I was friends with her, but I wasn't super close with her. But for months, that really took me to a really hard place. And one thing that when we were watching her service of her kind of funeral service, they had talked about how her brother was at her side when she was passing away and he said,

I'll see you later to her. And I thought that was one of the most profound things that was in my walk with Christ and I thought, okay, could I say that to a lot of the people in my life? And I was like, you know what, I can't. A lot of close people to me are not Christian that I would want to see forever and I couldn't say that to them.

So during that service, I thought, God, I need to be better, I need to witness better, I need it to be very present in all my conversations with people that I know are not Christian. And then about two weeks later, there was a big winter storm here in Dallas. And we, there was tons of people that were displaced, houses were torn up. There was no water, no electricity for a lot of the homes in Dallas, for it's area.

But Shonlo and I, we had a warm home, we had electricity and heat for our children. We had food in our pantry and our freezer and our fridge. We brought in his parents and our nanny. So we spent four days together living in the same roof in a warm house and I thought, wow, we are so blessed. So I went to Instagram and I thought, you know, we're just sitting pretty here. Like yeah, we don't have water, but like a lot of people don't even have a room

for their children to sleep in comfortably. And I went on to Instagram and I thought, how can I help DFW? So I put on my story, hey, what do you guys do? What do you need Dallas? And a ton of people said, well, our calling is doing really good things. So that's a homeless ministry here in Dallas.

And I checked them out. I posted about them because I was like, I just want to share all these resources because a lot of people want to help down like the people like this. Like I can't leave my house, but I want to help you somehow. So I went on to Instagram, posted that,

and about an hour later, I get a DM from our calling's director, and he's like, hey, I saw that you posted about us. Can you do an Instagram live with us today? We're housing 1,500 people in the convention center, Hermes Place, and we're doing COVID tests, and these are homeless people, these are people that have lost their homes, whatever.

So I'm like, okay, yeah, like, it's eight o'clock at night. I haven't showered in probably, you know, five days. I haven't washed my face and I look haggard because that's the situation. And I thought, you want me to do an Instagram live. I don't know what you guys are doing. And I took my vanity out and I said, let's do it. So, three days after that Instagram live,

they asked me to be on their board because so many people had were coming to that ministry and under, like, they asked me to be on their board because so people had were coming to that ministry and under like they were exposed. So now I'm on the board. Wow. We're having a committee like a benefit that's happening next Friday. Super involved. And I felt, wow, this is what I'm supposed to be doing my life. So God really put that witness in me. He gave me the opportunity to be part of an organization that is spreading the gospel to the homeless community and Dallas and also giving me a meal

and helping them with their mental health issues and so many things that they do. So it was an amazing thing for me to ask God, I need to be a better witness and how can I help Dallas? Well, that is so cool. What a cool story. And I love how it just came from like the question you're heart like, how can I do more? How can I help? And I think that's something that like we can all ask ourselves, you know, like, how can we use the platform we have, the resources that we have to help other people around us?

And like, you know, you can live and ask your whole life and not see the need of others around you, unless you like choose to open your eyes and see it. You can, I can live where I live and like, choose to not see what's around me or choose to not use like the resources or the platform I have to use it for the good. And when I say platform for people listening, I don't mean platform like million followers.

I mean, like, just people around you, like they could be five people. That's a platform. Like you have an opportunity to make a difference in someone's life. And so that story is so encouraging because I think people think like, you know, people might see you on the board of something and say, like, oh, well, she's Catherine Lowe or I know your last name is not low as you know It is you can say that it's way okay awesome. I was just like think I was like wait, but you are you're you're You know you're not it's not just because you're famous

It's because you asked the question, how can it help? And that led you to doing something incredible because you have a heart and a passion for people. And everybody has the opportunity to ask that question, how can it help and do the same things? And so that's such an inspiring story and just to hear that God answer, let that prayer in your heart. And a unique way to help is kingdom and build as kingdom is amazing.

One thing y'all are so good at, and I don't even know if you say people are good at this or what, but I think you're, are you're so good at having fun and laughing at yourself. It's something that's so evident in your life. Again, y'all lead your family and even on social media so well with that, but like posting just the funniest pictures of each other

and laughing at each other and funny days. So like, what is it in y'all's life? Like, do y'all, I guess what I'm trying to ask is like, how do y'all choose the value of fun in your family? And how do you create like a fun space in your family? Like, do you have advice for other people and how to create that in their own family? Oh, man.

Well, first, I think it's in our nature. Like I'm a giant man child, which my wife is still used. Like, he's my fourth child. I'm getting up there in years, but I still have the mind of a 14 year old. Perfect. And that's what attracted me to Catherine as well. It's like we just, we always had fun together.

We're always laughing and goofing around. And that's how I was brought up. My dad is like the biggest jokester and he would always make jokes at my expense, which also like most people get my humor those who follow me on Instagram. But everyone's why you get the people like, how could you make fun of your sweet five-year-old,

like we're like, ladies, it's a joke. And he's gonna learn the value of a good sense of humor along the way. That's right. Um, but I mean outside of God being the foundation of our marriage and our household, like I don't think there's much more important than humor and laughter and fun. Like we want our children to have fun and when they leave, hopefully sooner rather than later, leave our house. At least they're gonna look back and think like, wow, we had such a fun childhood and we don't always succeed. I think I flipped out on one of our kids last night. We don't always get it right,

but for the most part, we do a lot of laughing around here every day. Yeah, I remember when I think I was pregnant right before we were having children, we, there was this picture, the meme of this baby with gummies all over his face while he was sleeping. And I knew that that was the kind of, like, those were the parents that we're going to be where we stack Oreos on their head while they're sleeping and just think it's so funny and I remember when before Before we got engaged, you just show them said I want house that's full of love and laughter and that's just exactly what we've we've accomplished and we continue to and it's a Nate in us. We continue to, it's a Nate in us, and we really enjoy doing that with each other as husband and wife and with our children. And it's probably important to say, when you have faith as the foundation of your life

and you're not riddled with worry and an anxiety and not making enough money and what happens, worst case scenario, we have people in our lives who live like that, and they're just constantly stressed out. Once you put your trust in Jesus and realize, there's nothing that this world can dish out to you that you cannot handle. We know we're in good hands. Well, that allows you to relax,

and I think your joy starts to come through and You know, you can have more fun because I'm sure there's people that look at us People who know us who are like how are these two always just having fun? How are they always in good moods when there's so much in this world to worry about? Yeah, I think it's it's pretty clear to me that, you know, the answer's put in your trust in Jesus. That's so true. No, that's so good because I 100% agree and I think that that's a really sad thing that the enemy's kind of put on Christianity is like a lot of times I think the world sees Christianity and they think it's boring or rigid or like you can't have fun and I've found like the opposite is true. Actually, you can have the most fun in life when your trust is in Jesus

because you don't have to worry. The world worries. Jesus says, don't worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow has enough worries on its own. Jesus is constantly encouraging not to worry, to be at peace, to trust him because not that there won't be bad things. He says, you will face trials in this world,

but don't worry, I've overcome the world. And with that, like the trust that you can have in that, you genuinely can experience true joy in a world where things are scary and things are bad at times, but you can laugh because you don't have like fear of the future, you know? And so I love that you said that. I love that you'll live like that,

Christiana, or constantly trying to, you know, do funny things and have fun and laugh at each other. And we are pretty goofy ourselves. And I think at one point, I thought like whenever, you know, if you're doing ministry or you're growing up, you get to act old. And I was like, this is just totally not me. And so I like started to add more of like,

what makes me me in it? And that's whenever I found found, I don't know, that's where I felt like I found it by calling it my purpose. And that's what actually related to people, not when I was trying to be someone I wasn't. Whenever I genuinely was just being who God created me to be, one thing we love to do is we like to post like dance videos on Instagram.

And it's really not even like posting dance videos. It's really just us, what we love to do is like doing the dance videos because of all the takes we do that we laugh so hard at each other. It's the funniest thing forever. And it's just the best thing. I was going to ask you all have something like as a family that y'all love to do that just makes you laugh at each other or just makes you smile. Oh my gosh. So many things. Yeah. What comes to your mind? I don't know throwing stuff at the kids. We have like like you know like the sticky hands. I don't know stuff like that. The one that comes to mind for me, me is starting to talk a little bit now, but before she could talk, we we had like

this, what do you call that thing, the Juvee? You put them in it and it rolls, but they can kind of walk with their... It's like a two-blown drop. So anyway, when we'd be sitting down for dinner, I would put her in this Juvee, and I would pull it with a rope, and like every time I passed the dinner table, I would roast someone at the dinner table, and I would say it in a voice as if it were Mia. Oh, that's hilarious. You know, Hey, fat head.

What are you looking at? You know, there's more food on your face that there's been in your mouth. Let me just hold some ridiculous and grossy in the kids. And it's really just for me because the other ones don't understand what's going on.

But it's just I've filmed it. It's comical, it's silly, and yeah, that's just a lot of fun. Making fun of kids, that's what it boils down to. What is boils down to you? What are you, boys? That is literally hilarious. Just imagine y'all sitting at the table,

and you doing that, but only y'all can understand it. I'm gonna have to, is me, I'm gonna post it in a couple of years. I'm gonna post the dinner, please text it to to you, say it because it's really funny. Please do, I gotta see this. It's just like totally how me and Christian are gonna parent. Christian's always doing stuff to honey

and I'm just like dying laughing because she's no idea. And I'm like, you're not always gonna do this to you, always. But like, she already is so funny. It's funny how funny kids are without knowing that they're just hilarious. I'm like, no one would use this to be like a child.

Like kids are the best. But anyways, it just brings you back to just like pure joy, just the pureness of it all. Well, you guys are awesome. Y'all are such great parents. Y'all are so great parents. Y'all are so great for Christian. I had to honestly look up to and learn from and be inspired by just because you don't take life too seriously. You laugh at each other, you laugh at yourself,

and you welcome God in every part of your story. And that's something all of us can learn from. Hey, Sadie. What's up? I'm a words of affirmation person. If you could just call us every morning, I'm gonna put you on speaker and I want to start my day with you telling us how great we are. I call you all every morning. Well, you had new calling. No, but but for real, it's easy to encourage y'all. It's easy to affirm y'all. Because you live it out and you stayed true to it. That's something cool about yaw is yaw been in the spotlight. I think you said your season was 2012 like yaw been in the spotlight for I guess almost 10 years now and you've remained true to who you are. You've changed in good ways as you've grown up and also remained like a child and stayed the same in other ways and in the important ways. And that's I think something that we do learn from

and we can all learn from is that just because your lifestyle changes if you will, you get famous or you change positions or whatever, it doesn't mean you have to change your heart, it doesn't have to change. And so just kudos to y'all. Thanks for setting a great example in Trollblazing. And I'll always be your hype girl.

So, you get a little hype hype up just give me a call and have you do a people listening but seriously thanks for being on the show and just talking about life and God and family it means a lot to me and a note of other people too you're all so well thank you we've got nothing going on over here so anytime you want us back, just let's go. Great, I'll call the zoo. Alright, thanks y'all. Bye, bye. Bye, Sadie. you