WHOA That's Good Podcast - Thieves Stole From Us, ER Visits & Spiritual Attacks. What a Week | Sadie & Christian
Episode Date: July 21, 2025Sadie and Christian have had a week, y’all. We’re talking six days of straight-up chaos: a robbery, sickness, ER visits, tantrums, meltdowns, and basically zero sleep. But then, finally, day seve...n hit, and things started to shift. If you’ve ever had one of those weeks where it feels like the Enemy is coming at you from every direction, you’re not alone. Sadie and Christian open up about what gave them peace in the middle of the madness, the worship song they’ve had on repeat, and how reading about the armor of God just hits different after a week like that. This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://activeskinrepair.com — Get 20% off your order when you use code WHOA at checkout! https://sadiepens.com — Get 10% off my favorite supplies and journaling Bible when you use the code SADIE10 when checking out! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up everybody happy Monday, I hope y'all are having a great start to her usual
It's about to get so much better.
It is about to get so much better,
because we're about to have a very vulnerable chat.
Yep.
Are you excited for this?
I am excited for this, yeah.
For the vulnerability we're about to share,
Christian came in with a very weird mood, so.
I'm kind of, yeah, I'm on one today.
It's always good to laugh instead of cry, so.
Yeah, thankfully we're recording this,
yeah, a good bit of time after it happened,
or else there might not be as much laughter.
Yeah, so we recently had one of the craziest weeks ever.
It was six days of like, just craziness.
Something happened every day that put us on panic mode,
and it was wild, but it kind of led me
to wanting to have this conversation
because we've had so many moments like that
when it comes around me speaking somewhere
or an event that we have coming up.
And we normally don't share that, you know?
And it's not because we're trying to hide the bad
or anything, it's honestly just because
I don't think you even think to share
the bad things in your life.
Like we're not stopping and taking a picture
of those moments, you know?
We're not like, oh, let's tell the world
that this is happening and this is so crazy.
And then it's kind of hard because all you see
is the good moments.
Like all you see online is, oh, she spoke there
and that looked awesome.
And that was such a cute picture of their family.
And yeah, that's real and that's a part of it.
But there's always this other side of it too
that can really just come with challenges.
And honestly, it's been something that in our marriage,
we've had to really work on a lot and like overcome
these things.
And I mean, not even just our marriage,
like in our faith, honestly.
Like it's been a, it's been a like faith thing
because it feels like so many times that I go speak somewhere, something
crazy happens and it really does feel like a spiritual attack.
Yeah, most of the time it revolves around sickness or things of that nature.
Like years ago, whenever we were on the Passion Tour, that's whenever we had one of the scariest
things happen to our daughter
medically.
It was just a crazy experience and it happened to be when I'm speaking.
And then at passion conference, a couple years ago, I had COVID and the flu.
This year at passion, I had the flu.
At motion conference, I had COVID.
At the event in Florida this year, I had food poisoning.
I was in the hospital the whole night before having contractions.
Like it is almost every time I speak somewhere
and it's something dramatic.
It's not just like, oh, you know, I have a headache.
It's like super sick, whether it's me, Christian,
the girls, and it normally-
A couple of passions together.
Haven was in the hospital.
Oh yeah.
It normally involves the hospital.
That was the one that you were good. The one I wasn't sick at. Haven was in the hospital. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It normally involves the hospital. That was the one that you were good.
The one I wasn't sick at.
We were in the hospital with Haven,
the three days leading up before Passion.
So it's just crazy.
And I think it's one of those things that, again, you
don't share a lot.
You don't really hear a lot of that.
You hear, oh, yeah, we're facing spiritual warfare,
or you assume it's there, but you don't really
see that side of it.
And so we wanted to bring you allall into kind of what some of this can look like,
and then kind of how we've navigated through it and what we've learned over the past few years of this.
Because when I say it's a faith thing, there have been like some really hard questions with God when it comes to this.
I mean, you feel like God doesn't have your back sometimes, because you're like, why?
Like, I'm trying to do this for you, Lord.
Like, we're trying to go and to minister,
but it feels like every time we do, we're hit with sickness.
Like, why don't you protect us from that?
Why don't you protect our kids from that?
And obviously we know things can be so much worse
and God is good and we'll get into all that
and what we've discovered about His character through it,
but it can make you question. And it it can like, there have been several times
where I've felt like I don't want to speak and I don't want to do this because I'm tired of the
hits, you know, I'm tired of our kids getting sick. I'm tired of me getting sick and um,
I get sick too, by the way. It can just be, it can can just be a lot. And so, yeah, that's just real.
It's definitely been,
yeah, the navigation's not been like a,
you know, if you set your destination,
it's not been like a straightforward path navigation
for us trying to figure out how to,
yeah, kind of circumvent all the different things
that have happened.
It's definitely more of a diagonal, loose,
not very clean kind of way to get to things
we've learned.
Yeah, for sure.
So we're going to talk about all that.
So some of the things we share, it's like, don't, I would not do that.
That's not...
Well, we're going to be vulnerable.
Like I said, it's actually made us have those questions of like, God, what in the world?
Do you have our back?
Do you even want us to do this?
Is this what we're supposed to be doing?
Is it always gonna, you know,
be at the expense of one of our children getting sick?
That doesn't seem right.
Is it gonna be at the expense of me,
like barely able to do it because I feel so awful?
And it's crazy too,
because like the year that I got the flu and COVID for passion,
I quarantine like crazy.
Like I quarantine, I take my vitamins,
I try to do everything I can.
We have a prayer team, like we've done everything
we possibly can to prepare for these things to go smoothly.
And they just rarely ever, ever do.
And so, backing up to this month and what happened this time.
So very interestingly, you know,
this was gonna be my last event before taking
maternity. Well, I still had other work to do, but like my last event to speak at.
Nice trip, travel.
And what's crazy is we had a trip to Miami the week before to speak at VU Conference,
and then a trip to Atlanta the next weekend to speak at Forward Conference. And I had voices to
my team a couple weeks before. I was like, y'all, I hate to feel this way,
but I kind of just feel nervous about these trips
because as y'all know, every time our family goes on a trip
and I'm speaking, like something bad happens.
And I just feel like I'm already starting to let the enemy
beat me up with fear of like what's going to happen.
And that's why I love that verse I read the other day in Psalms
because it was talking about how
the righteous man doesn't fear bad news is gonna come,
but his heart is steady.
And I was like, God, teach my heart to be steady
because so often I just get afraid of what might happen.
And so anyways, I had my team praying for me.
I have a separate group of women
who specifically pray for our family.
That I was texting texting letting them know
the events we have coming up just to cover us.
And I do think that that's helped so much in the past.
And it hasn't taken away the crazy things that have happened
but it's helped steady our hearts in the midst of it
and just knowing we have an army behind us.
And so anyways, they were praying for me,
they were praying for us, they were praying for our kids,
and here comes the VU Conference,
and it went so smoothly.
Yeah, I was just about to say that.
Nothing happened, and it was crazy.
We were like, whoa, I can't believe we just did an event,
and nothing happened.
The girls were healthy, we were healthy,
our flights were relatively on time.
We actually couldn't believe it.
We were like, this is so nice.
Smooth sailing.
We were like, thank you Lord.
Like that was like so awesome.
And it kind of just like redeemed a lot of this past year,
couple years of speaking,
cause I just felt like, okay, that was good.
Maybe like all the prayers worked
and all of the preparation and all the different things. Okay.
And looking back on it, because that was the, you know, like four or five days before,
I think that also kind of made us go into like autopilot.
It did. It made me not prepare so much for the next weekend.
Because I was like, oh, we got it, you know?
And that was where we were wrong.
Because I think one thing that spiritual warfare
has taught me and one thing that all the sickness
has taught me is that it has,
like the good that has come out of it
is it gets me to a place of complete dependency on God.
Like I am so much more in prayer,
I'm so much more in the word
and texting the people around me, utilizing our community, like making sure I'm on guard.
Like I'm playing, you know, for real with the enemy.
Like I'm not just gonna let him stomp on me.
But this week, because Vu went so good and so easy
and then leading up until the next week,
we had filming every single day, we had podcasts,
we had so much stuff.
I was just like not prayerful for Forward Conference.
I was just like, okay, we just did it.
It was great, I'm gonna do the same message,
which I probably rarely ever think that or do that,
but I was like, oh, it just makes sense.
Or week to week, that's just what I'll do.
So I just didn't think too much into it.
Well.
Well, it wasn't like we didn't, you know,
it wasn't like, for the event,
it wasn't like we weren't taking the event seriously.
No, we just were like, oh, this message is really strong.
It went great at VU.
Yeah, and it was the week, yeah.
The past event, travel and sickness-wise,
everything went well.
So we just kind of felt like we could just maybe
take the foot off the gas a little bit.
But still, obviously, respect to the event
we were going to do.
Of course, I mean to say like,
I know what you mean. I just preached this message
that really people responded great to.
And I thought, man, this would be a great one
to just do again.
It was strong.
The Lord gave me these words.
I don't have to spend too much time preparing for it.
But in not spending time preparing as much,
I think we also kind of let our foot off the gas
of like the prayer, the protection,
the texting our prayer group and everything.
So anyways, we just went into it thinking
this is gonna be great, smooth sailing, it's gonna be easy.
Well.
Well, and the problem was
we were going straight from there to vacation.
So I think that also kind of has something to do with it.
It was like we're packing.
That's what I'm saying, yeah, it was doing great.
We have this one event
and then it's the last trip before baby, it's a vacation.
Let's just try to just soak this time in as a family of four.
Yes, that was what we thought.
So anyways, now let's start and get into what happened.
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We actually weren't late.
We were 10 minutes before they were supposed to shut off the TSA.
Yeah.
And they shut it off early, baggage claim.
And they basically told us like we couldn't go.
And we were like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Like we have to go.
I'm speaking tomorrow. We have to go. I'm speaking tomorrow.
We have to get there.
Not to mention, y'all are closing 10 minutes early
than the actual time the airport was.
Well, there was no one there.
So you had to go find somebody.
And we were like, we fly all the time.
We know you had to be there 45 minutes before.
And this was an hour before.
We were like, this should not be right.
So anyways, we found somebody.
It was awkward tension. We got through. We were like, OK, not be right. So anyways, we found somebody. It was awkward tension.
We got through, we were like, okay, we made it.
No worries.
Well, we sat there, looked at the fish tank.
Everything was going fine.
Right as we're about to board the flight,
we're literally in line to board.
And our-
No, we were the last ones boarding.
Yeah, we're boarding the plane.
Usually when we're traveling with the girls,
there's no reason to get on the plane early
because I'm either gonna sit on the plane
or sit, you know, at the jet bridge or whatever.
So we're getting on the plane and about to scan our tickets
and our little one Haven has the biggest nosebleed
I've ever seen from a kid that small.
It was so scary.
She's never had a nosebleed before.
And I mean, y'all, it was like pouring.
It was all over her.
It was all over me.
Blood was just everywhere.
And we couldn't get it to stop.
And it was freaking me out because, one, she's never
had a nosebleed before.
And then, two, when you have bad sinuses and you go up on a flight,
it's not good.
So I didn't know if this was coming from sinus pressure.
I didn't know what was happening.
So I call our on-call nurse at our pediatrician's office.
And I'm telling her what's happening.
And she's like, you need to pinch her nose and get it
to stop, and how much blood, and how long has it been?
So I'm trying to get this figured out.
Meanwhile, we're the last ones to board the flight.
So now they're holding the plane.
They end up holding the plane for probably 30 minutes.
So the pilot ends up coming out.
And I'm like, I'm so sorry.
I don't know what to do.
This has never happened before.
We really need to get on this flight but our child's nose
won't stop bleeding so then the nurse is like talking to the pilot saying hey
could y'all get the aphron was that it like the nose spray out of the medical
kit on the plane and he says well no we really can't open the medical kit unless
we're in the air it's like oh my gosh air. I was like, oh my gosh. So then I was like, okay, so, well, we,
I mean, I don't really know what to do.
Well, while we're having this conversation,
he's like, I can't open the medical kit
unless we're in the air.
You're just gonna have to wait and wait it out.
If you feel like she's okay to get on the plane,
let's get her on the plane.
So then our nurse was like, okay,
if she gets to a good spot,
I think it's fine to get on the plane,
knowing that if we get in the air and she does it again,
he will open the medical kit for us.
So her nose stops bleeding, we get on the plane,
and it's just stressful, like mom's listening,
you know, like you're just stressed,
like you don't want something to be wrong with your child,
and then I'm like, what if this happens
while we're in the air, and why is she having this
in the first place, and so just kind of started us out on a stressful note.
And we have like blood all over us, so that doesn't help.
And of course, I didn't pack an extra change of clothes for her
because she's two.
She's not like a little baby anymore.
And so anyways, we get past that.
We get to Atlanta and we get in the cars.
And Christian was in a different car than I was.
I was with the host. and Christian was with our security.
And so I was in the car with this pastor and the another host of the conference.
They were really sweet.
But the girls were both just like screaming, crying like they were like hungry
because we didn't get there till nine p.m.
And then we got stuck in standstill traffic.
So like nosebleed, screaming, crying in the car
with hosts that I don't know.
Standstill traffic in Atlanta.
And the restaurant we were going to was closing at 10
and it was like 940 and we were in standstill.
So we're like, oh my gosh,
now we're not gonna be able to eat.
Everything else was closing at 10
and the girls were like losing their mind.
And so finally, like the traffic lets up a little bit,
we get out of traffic and we get to the restaurant
that we wanted to eat at and we go in and we're just like,
okay, let's just take a breath.
Like this has just been like a stressful couple hours.
Obviously that didn't really go as planned.
And so we eat, we're having a good time
and then we go back to getting our cars.
And when we go back to getting our cars,
that's when we realized that our cars,
the windows are completely busted in,
and that people had stolen our backpacks,
which had a lot of important things in there,
including all of our family's passports.
So me, Christian, Honey, and Haven's passports.
They stole your actual license
and all Christian's credit cards.
They stole his Bible that he's had forever.
Sunglasses, wads, headphones.
I mean, it was sad.
A lot of, yeah.
I'm still kind of sad about it.
And it's so sad too,
because we had our car seats
and strollers and diaper bag in there,
and of course they didn't steal any of that,
which I'm thankful for, but I'm like, that's so low.
You know you're stealing from a family with kids,
and then I just hate to think about them seeing
Honey and Haven's little faces on that passport.
It just makes me so mad.
We also prayed that the fear of God would fall upon them.
I did, I prayed that they'd be vomiting.
Still praying that. Because they feel so bad about what they did. But, you know.
They probably don't, but hopefully they do. I prayed it would lead them to repentance and that they would open
Christian's Bible and start reading it and feel the fear of the Lord. So, I don't know if any of that happened.
Lot of markings in that book. But, anyways, here we are in Atlanta with our two little kids
Anyways, here we are in Atlanta with our two little kids after a stressful couple hours and our stuff is stolen,
the windows are punched in and we had an over an hour drive
to where we were actually trying to get for this event.
And we had to drive there with the windows busted out
on the interstate in Atlanta and the girls are scared.
I mean, Honey's very scared because she's like,
bad guys broke our windows and took daddy's stuff.
And she kept, she's so worried about daddy's stuff.
She's like, and they took daddy's stuff,
but we need it.
I mean, it was so sad.
And then we just had to talk to her a lot about
why someone would do that.
And Honey is a very curious kid.
She's just like me and she has like a lot of questions.
So that was just really sad to have to like break that
to her and talk to her about what, you know,
life can be like sometimes and whatnot.
But also an opportunity to show her our faith
and you know, what we believe about God
and for us to be steady.
I think like if it wouldn't have been for the kids there,
I would have been a lot more scared,
but I was like, you know, trying to be- You were being strong for them. Yeah, like be strong wouldn't have been for the kids there, I would have been a lot more scared But I was like, you know trying to you're being strong
Yeah, like be strong for them and brave for them and let them know it's just things and things can be replaced and you know
That kind of stuff so it's helping me
Navigate helping them. So anyways, we got to the hotel around midnight because of course it took forever
We call the police and tell them everything and whatnot. We're out to the hotel.
We finally go to bed around midnight and close to one.
We didn't also have any of Honey and Haven's stuff
because that was in the other car.
It was in the other car, yeah.
And so we didn't have like anything for them.
So anyways, we just finally go to bed.
And then at 1.30 in the morning,
Haven wakes up with, or was it 3.30? It was 3.30. We went to bed at then at 1.30 in the morning, Haven wakes up with, or was it 3.30?
It was 3.30.
3.30.
We went to bed at 1.00.
3.30, Haven wakes up with like the highest fever.
Like she was just burning up.
And I was like, you are kidding me.
She's so sick.
She's fever.
She's like, you know, that nosebleed, I guess, was the start of whatever the sickness was.
And she stayed up from 3.30 to 7 a.m.
So I stayed up from 3.30 to 7 a.m.
With her feeling sick and we watched two movies.
And then I start feeling sick.
So then we finally go to bed at like seven,
we wake up at 10 and I feel awful.
Like my chest hurts so bad, I could hardly talk. Like I feel awful. Like my chest hurts so bad.
I could hardly talk.
Like I was coughing.
And meanwhile, this is the day I'm supposed to speak.
Okay.
So, supposed to speak now.
When we just got like everything stolen.
The reason we stayed up so late too
is we had to cancel all of our credit cards.
We had to file for new passports
because we were supposed to fly on vacation the next day,
which of course we can't fly
because we don't have any IDs.
So that took like, that's what took so long in the night.
And then Haven woke up sick.
And so I was up with her.
Then I woke up sick and we were just like, this is literally crazy.
So thankfully I had my assistant with me and the girls were able to stay with her
while Christian and I got ready because we had to go back to Atlanta
to file reports for our passports
and try to get new passports
so that we could actually fly out for vacation the next day,
which did not happen,
because once we got to Atlanta,
we realized that the passport place is completely like...
Well, we had known some people
that had made some phone calls to the passport office,
and then they had no record of that happening.
So then they closed the office and then wouldn't grant us
to try to get access to do the passport thing really quick
since we were traveling, which kind of became a whole thing.
Because then we spent basically the whole day in Atlanta
trying to get that done.
And then had a drive back for you to prep for the event.
Yes, so while we were on the drive back,
and I was starting to prep for this event,
I have to tell you, I was struggling,
like really struggling.
One, I just felt really sick.
I mean, I was actually sick.
I was also eight months pregnant.
This was supposed to be like our last trip before baby.
We have been so busy this summer, more busy than ever
with filming and podcasting and two kids
and a baby on the way.
And I just felt exhausted.
Actually the day before we even went to Atlanta,
I don't know if you remember this, we were having dinner
and we were having like a great dinner
and the girls were with us and Christian just looks up
and I just have tears rolling down my eyes.
And he's like, are you crying?
Remember at parish?
And I was like, yeah, I'm just so tired.
I was like, I'm not even crying because I'm sad.
I'm not crying because I'm just like so exhausted
that like, I just feel like crying.
And I was like, I just don't know how I'm gonna go preach.
I wasn't even thinking we were gonna endure any of that.
I just meant how am I physically gonna preach?
And that was before all that happened
and I got sick and our cars got broken into
and the nosebleed and the stress and this and that.
So that was already the state I was in.
So I just felt so weak and I was like,
I was just in the car and I was like,
God, what do you want from me? Like, why like, God, what do you want from me?
Like, why is this happening?
What do you want from me?
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And the crazy thing is that morning when I woke up,
I had this kind of like spirit prompt
that the message I had prepared was not the right message to give that night.
And I just ignored it.
Cause I was like, that can't be an option.
Like I can't not give this message.
Cause what else do I have?
Like I haven't prepared for anything else.
And I just kept feeling, I did not have a peace about it.
I was like the message that I had prepared
and that I knew and that I preached the week before at VU
was not the one I was supposed to give.
And I was just like, Lord, like, how am I supposed to,
like, I don't have time to come up with something else.
Like, I have nothing else.
So like, what do you want?
And also, I just feel like I couldn't hear from the Lord.
Like, I didn't feel, I mean, sometimes, you know,
it's like, oh, I have peace that surprises all understanding.
I didn't feel peace.
I didn't feel like the Lord was speaking.
I didn't feel like the Lord was near.
And that's just honest.
Like sometimes you feel those things
in really hard scenarios and sometimes you don't
and you just have to trust He's there
even when you don't feel it.
And I just didn't feel it.
And I was texting with my prayer group
and just telling them what was happening
and just saying, I really need prayer.
And it was so cool.
While I'm on this drive and kind of thinking
about what I'm supposed to preach on,
one of my prayer team women texted me separately
a voice memo and she just said,
Sadie, I am praying so diligently for you.
And I hear the Lord saying that what you're experiencing
in the natural is what the people at this conference
are experiencing in the spiritual.
You, you know, y'all got robbed last night
and stuff was stolen from you and you felt afraid
and you felt vulnerable and you didn't know
how to navigate that.
And she said, there are students coming to this conference
who spiritually have just been absolutely robbed
from the enemy.
Their purity has been stolen,
their confidence has been stolen,
their joy has been stolen.
And the same fear you felt last night
and the vulnerability you felt
is how they feel every single day.
They just get bullied by the enemy.
And she said, you need to go and speak to the spirit of fear
and pick up your stone and throw it at Goliath.
And it's wild because my grandma had texted me earlier that day
and was like, this is a battle Sadie,
but go pick up your stone and throw it at Goliath.
And it just was so cool because-
Which that's when you know it's really God speaking.
Yeah, God was speaking.
And I was like, this is wild because I was like,
I don't know why God allows these things to happen,
but what I do know is that He always moves through it
and He always speaks through it.
And no weapon formed against you shall prosper.
Like the weapon might be formed,
it might be having, it's not gonna prosper.
It's not gonna win unless you let it win.
And so you have to, you know,
you have to have your armor on.
Like Ephesians 5, I'm gonna read it
before this podcast ends, but like,
like spiritual warfare is real,
but you gotta armor up and you gotta fight the battle back.
Like you have not just been given a shield,
you've been given a sword.
Like yes, you defend the arrows,
but then you fight back with the sword of the Spirit,
which is the Word of God.
And so, I just felt like a new kind of passion rise over me of like,
okay, I'm going to go and like speak directly to the Spirit of fear.
And it was really crazy because I had not one note that I was going to say.
I didn't have notes.
I didn't have anything, but I knew gonna say. I didn't have notes. I didn't have anything, but I knew this is what I'm going after.
And what's wild is I didn't grow up
with a charismatic background.
I grew up actually pretty traditional
and over the years have been in more
very traditional charismatic settings.
But I was thinking, man,
if I was a student in this scenario
and I heard a speaker speak like this,
I would think like, whoa, she's so charismatic.
And it's just cool because I just think whenever you are going through life and really following
the Lord, it's not about like being raised traditional, charismatic or not.
It's really just a spiritual battle that you are in real time.
And it's like, how do you respond to that?
You need the Holy Spirit.
And how do you respond to that?
You need the Word of God.
It is your weapon to fight with.
And so that night walked into the room
or walked into our green room
and Haven had 101.3.
And she hadn't had fever again all day after the morning.
She had 101.
I was carrying her like a little baby.
The second we walked in the green room.
She was so sick.
She was so pale.
I was sick, feeling horrible.
Honey and Christian are hanging on strong.
And then it was so cool,
because I had such a peace that surpassed all understanding.
I actually had so much peace.
I was not worried about going up on stage.
I was not worried about what I was going to say.
I wasn't overthinking, like, how am I gonna say it?
I knew the mission I was on.
I knew the assignment that God had sent me on.
And I actually felt like so much strength overcome me.
So we go out there, we take the girls out,
we're sitting down.
I'm telling y'all, I wasn't nervous at all.
So that's what's so cool.
Like I went from earlier in that day feeling like,
Lord, I can't hear from y'all stuff.
And then what's so cool is like, when you are weak,
He really is strong.
And that's why community is so important
because He did not speak to me directly.
He spoke to two important women in my life
who were praying for me because they knew it was happening,
who then spoke what the Lord was saying in a line.
I was like, I agree.
And then all of a sudden,
whenever I kind of had this like fresh wind to fight with,
I was like, oh, I'm ready.
So I walk up there and I'm like, I know it's night one.
I know y'all don't know me, I don't know you,
but we're about to get to know each other real fast
because tonight I'm gonna speak directly
to the spirit of fear.
And I was like, the word of God says
that you have not been given a spirit of fear,
but want a power, love, and a sound mind.
And I said, and that's the easy verse to cheer to,
that's the easy verse to want to agree with,
but the reality is most of you are not living
with a sound mind.
Most of you would not say, man, yeah,
I totally carry that spirit of power and love
and a sound mind.
Most of you really are living in a spirit of fear. Your thoughts are filled with toxic anxiety
and spiraling anxiety.
And you're saying yes to things you shouldn't say yes to
and no to things you shouldn't say no to
because the spirit of fear drives your life.
And tonight, I just believe that we are gonna come
at that spirit of fear.
And by the time you leave here,
you actually won't have a spirit of fear,
but want of power,
love, and is on mine.
And from that point on, we had people stand up, they felt like they had a spirit of fear,
and it was more than half the room.
People laid hands on them, prayed over them, and then preached a whole message about how
when your boldness meets the power of the Holy Spirit, it is an undeniable combination that testifies to people
that they can't deny God is in.
And it was one of the most, for me,
Spirit-filled messages I've ever preached.
I also was supposed to speak for 45 minutes
and the whole day before I had this wind,
I was thinking, how am I gonna do this?
I literally was like, how can I even stand up
for 45 minutes at eight months pregnant? I was already a little bit scared about that.
How am I gonna have the breath to preach this message?
How am I gonna, and then I'm sick and then all this stuff.
And I remember looking down at that clock
and it had passed 45 minutes and I was still going
and I was like, God, you are so good.
He really is your strength when you are weak.
And so, honestly, the message couldn't have gone better.
It was so powerful.
Yeah, it was great.
But it wasn't over yet.
We...
Yeah, a little bit.
It was kind of just beginning.
Yeah, we didn't, of course, have our IDs,
so we couldn't fly out the next day.
So we ended up, the church actually gave us a car that night and said...
So we just drove through the night down to Florida.
So, we drove through the night to Florida to Christian's parents' house,
because that's where we were going to go. And we got there like 2 a.m. But we just wanted to get
there because of how sick Haven was and how sick I was. And we just wanted to kind of be by family.
So, we got there and we had one good day-ish.
I mean, Haven was sick, but it wasn't like.
Yeah, Saturday was a decent day.
Crazy.
And then the next day things just continued to get bad.
Haven actually hadn't peed like all day
and it was about 3 p.m.
And I started noticing like she hadn't peed,
she didn't want to get out of bed, she didn't like want to do anything.
And most of you probably don't know this, but Haven has kidney reflux and it's something
that causes like UTIs constantly.
So that's why she's been hospitalized so many times.
But she's on a daily medication to prevent the UTIs.
Well, we could just see signs that she might have a UTI
because she hadn't peed.
So we ended up having to take her to the emergency room.
And when we got there, they ended up trying to get her to pee
every single natural way you can get someone to pee.
I mean, we were like listening to waterfalls.
We had warm water on her feet.
We had every possible scenario. She did not want to do it. She didn't want to do it. So they ended up having to give her a catheter, which was just awful. And of course, she's had to do before, but it was just so hard to watch your baby hurt like that. And so they got her to pee, but it was 5pm. So that was the first time she had peed all day. And anyway, it's just stressful and scary
because if that came back,
what we thought it might come back as,
and we were gonna be transferred
to the Pensacola Children's Hospital,
and it was just a nightmare.
Well, ended up coming back fine.
And so we're still not really sure why that happened.
Why she, I think she was just truly so sick
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This home to monitor her for six to eight hours.
And if she doesn't pee again to come back,
because then we would go to the Pensacola Children's Hospital.
So we go back home and I went up to the room
to sleep with Haven.
Kirsten was going to sleep with Honey,
just so I could just monitor Haven
and we could keep them separated just in case, you know,
Haven didn't have a good night or whatever.
Well, 3 a.m. rolls around, wasn't it 3?
It's always 3 a.m.
And it really is always 3 a.m.
Devil, get away from that hour.
So it was 3 a.m. and Christian calls me, he's panicking.
He's like, honey, honey's fever is 104.7.
I'm like, what?
Which leading up to that point,
honey hadn't been sick yet.
It had just been Haven.
Honey was not sick.
So I like run downstairs.
Honey is, I've never felt a child so hot.
It was so scary.
She was shaking.
She was freaking out.
It's three in the morning.
She was 104.7.
I gave her Motrin.
I gave her Tylenol.
I gave her wet rag.
The fever was not going down.
Finally, I had to wake up my in-laws
because it's like, we have to get her in the bath.
We got her in the bath.
Even in the bath, she got up to 105.2 fever.
It was terrifying.
I'm calling the pediatrician.
What do we do?
Do we need to go to the hospital?
She's like, let's see if we can get it down with the bath
and the Mojo and the Tylenol, blah, blah, blah.
So we got it down to 102,
and they felt good enough about that
to at least wait until the next morning
to go to the pediatrician.
Finally, it broke in the night. next morning to go to the pediatrician.
Finally, it broke in the night.
Anyways, we go to the pediatrician the next day
and Haven still hadn't peed,
so we were about to have to go to Pensacola Hospital.
Honey has such a high fever.
It was just literally insane.
So we're sitting there talking to the Dodger.
Turns out Honey has a really, really bad ear infection,
which she's had tube surgeries four times.
So we were like, you're kidding me.
And then Haven was standing there
and this was like the miracle of the day.
She goes, I poo-pooed.
We looked down and she actually just peed so much
that it went through her diaper and like all over the floor.
All over her pajamas.
All over her pajamas. It was the greatest thing I've ever seen.
It was one of the happiest moments of my life.
I mean, literally, you never think you could be so happy
to see a child pee,
because we were about to have to go to the hospital again.
And so she walked out of that office with a diaper.
I've never been more proud.
I was so happy.
And then we, of course, had to get the medication for honey
and all that different stuff.
And so literally, it was six days of just crazy.
And just like difficult parenting.
I mean if one wasn't crying, the other one was.
Just fighting with each other, not listening to us talking back.
Everything.
Which doesn't sound too bad, just parenting is difficult.
But when you get to that age and it's just defiant
and mean and rude and-
On top of sickness and stress.
On top of sicknesses and other things.
I've been up since 2 a.m. for three nights in a row,
if not up at 3 a.m.
We were just exhausted.
And-
And it was our last trip.
It was our last trip.
It was supposed to be our like kind of baby moon
with the kids.
That was crazy.
Which is okay.
But you know, so six days of that.
And then on day seven, which is so spiritual, so crazy,
we finally were like, everyone is like at a good place.
Like Honey still was a little bit, you know,
ear infection.
She was still very. But like like we're fine, you know?
So we decided to go to the beach
and I just remember looking at the beach that day
and it was so beautiful.
And literally like just speaking out loud,
your mercies are new every morning.
God just wash over me with new mercies.
Give me new grace, give me new perspective.
Um, like today is a new day.
It's a day of rest and it's a reset day and, um, it's going to be new.
And, and you have our family and you got us out of it and they're okay.
And praise the Lord, it wasn't worse.
Cause there's so many, there's so many worst things going on in the world.
And with families that could have happened and it didn't happen.
And we're so thankful and just like being grateful like a heart of gratitude
and resetting my heart. You know one of my favorite verses why I have a wave on my arm tattooed is
it's talking about like do you not fear the Lord in Jeremiah and he says for God created the sand
as a boundary line for the sea so the waves waves can roar and foam, but it can't pass that perpetual boundary line that the Lord set.
And I'm looking at the waves and the sand is, of course, in between me and the roar of the waves.
And just realizing that God sets boundary lines. Like, yes, again, the weapons form, but it can't prosper.
Yes, the enemy tries, sins attack, sins flaming arrows,
but you have a shield.
And gosh, you have to know that God holds the victory
and you have to know that these moments are temporary
and you're gonna get through them
and you have to speak that over your family.
That song I love so much right now,
from the Belonging Co.
That literally is in the Mighty Name of Jesus.
It says like everything I'm saying right now.
It's like I draw a permanent boundary line, you know?
And it's talking about like the blood of Jesus over my life
and the enemy.
Is in the mighty name of Jesus.
Bring us to church.
Jesus.
I mean, it's so good.
I was blasting that over. I was okay. It's way it's so good. I was blasting that over.
I was, okay.
It's way too high for me.
I was blasting that.
Don't take that.
Christian.
I was blasting that over our family
and just saturating us in worship
and saturating us in prayer.
And yeah, looking back, it's crazy too,
cause coming off of that,
I had to be honest with Christian a few days later.
I was like, I feel like I still kind of am living
on that panic.
Like every time something happens, I'm like, what happened?
Like, are you okay?
And like feeling their head,
like is something wrong with you?
Like I still feel that like panicky feeling,
like something bad's gonna happen in any second.
But that's why Psalms the other day,
like spoke to my soul when it was like,
that is not what the righteous man does.
Like he does not fear bad news coming.
Like his heart is steady and set on the Lord.
And so yeah, I think one thing I'll share,
and then I want you to share some of the verses
that spoke to you, but years ago when we were just kind
of starting with all the sicknesses when I was speaking
and realizing how hard that was and me kind of starting with all the sicknesses when I was speaking and realizing how hard that was
and me kind of really asking God,
like God, do you actually, are you calling me to do this?
Because if you're not calling me to do this,
I don't wanna do this anymore.
Like if this is not something
that you actually have called me to, then I'm out.
Because I don't want to see my kids go through this.
I don't want to go through that.
Like I just would rather be home and not, you know, experience this warfare.
So you have to tell me that this is really what you have for me and that you're going to have our family.
And as I was praying those prayers and we prayed some really hard prayers that year,
that year at Passion, Ben Stewart spoke and he was talking about when the disciples were on the boat
with Jesus when the storm came, and Jesus was sleeping. And they're like frustrated
with Jesus, like, how could you let this happen? Like, you know, we're going to die because
you don't care, you know, because you're sitting here sleeping. And we're out here doing ministry
and, you know, following you everywhere.
And here we are in the middle of a storm,
which that's just like, so how I felt at the time.
I was just like, are you sleeping, God?
Like, do you care?
Do you see us?
Like, why aren't you stopping this?
And what Ben said that day that stuck with me
is he said the disciples were more certain
of the power of the storm than were more certain of the power of the storm
than they were certain of the power of God
in the boat with them.
And I felt like I had just gotten to that place
where I was so certain of the storm
and the power of the storm
and how bad the storm was gonna be.
I was so certain.
So I was gonna get sick, something bad's gonna happen,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
And being frustrated at God
because of the power of the storm,
when I'm like, okay, measure that against the power of God.
And like, do you believe he's in the boat with you?
And if God's in the boat with you,
then like when he says it has to stop, it has to stop.
Like when he says wind and waves be still,
they have to be still.
And so it's up to God when he wants to get up and call it.
He might let it go for a little bit.
He might let your faith rise a little bit.
He's like, you have little faith.
Like he rebukes the storm, it's gone.
And so that reframes so much of how I think about this,
because even when the storm comes, I know God's in our boat.
Like, I don't doubt that God's not there.
When I didn't feel peace that day,
I didn't think God wasn't with us.
I know God's with us. Like it might feel like he's sleeping, but I know he not there. When I didn't feel peace that day, I didn't think God wasn't with us. I know God's with us.
Like it might feel like he's sleeping,
but I know he's there.
And I know when God says, it's over, it's over.
Like when God tells the enemy to leave,
the enemy's gone.
Like in the mighty name of Jesus, you gotta go.
And I just feel like I've come to such a deeper trust
in that.
So if I know we're called to something
and we say yes to it and we go, and the enemy
comes at us and throws his arrows like he will, that God will see us through and He's in the boat
with us and I'm going to be more certain of the power of God than I am the power of the storm.
And that has been like one of my things that I cling to the most when it comes to spiritual
warfare. Yeah, that's good. And I think too, after being through it for a while now, a while, the past couple of years,
because we still handle things differently.
You still kind of resort to fear.
I still resort to anger.
But lately, we've been getting a lot better at being a team in those moments, instead of kind of
fleeing to kind of where we find comfort from a worldly standpoint, instead of finding it in God.
And I think this past week was a cool, you know, kind of marker, bench point, or benchmark of,
you know, seeing us come together and not kind of live in the two
separate camps like what we've done in the past. Yes. Which is... We didn't know how to handle those things together.
Which it's still very difficult, but it's a lot easier to do it together and, yeah, kind of being of the same mind.
And I think because we've been so vulnerable in the past about what we struggle
with when those moments happen, and we've had to because we've gone through so many of them together, and we haven't done it well.
We've, like, we know now how to do it better, and part of that is like we have to be on the same team
because I think too, like, we're not always surprised by it like we used to be. Like,
not that you expect it because you don't want to expect it,
but you're like, you know what it is.
Like, you recognize the enemy's arrow whenever it comes.
Whereas used to, the battle would have been more
between flesh and blood, and now it's like,
we know what this is.
And I think like the night that your backpack
got stolen and everything,
I just saw you stay at such a level head.
Like, so, I mean, I was so impressed because if I got my Bible stolen and my like ID and
credit card, I would definitely be a lot more like crying inside.
And you were just like so level headed.
You just handled it, which gave me a lot more peace because you weren't freaking out.
You gave the girls a lot more peace because you stayed steady and you just like handled
the situation.
And then like when the girls were sick,
you were really there for me.
You helped me with all of the different things.
We both were getting honey in the bath.
We both were doing the,
we were just such a team in the whole thing.
And not just reacting to the enemy's arrows,
but actually fighting them back,
shooting each other, fighting back with words,
fighting back with worship.
Like we were just totally in the fight together, which has not been how we used to handle it.
And I think that's why we like did so well. Like when it was over, we were good.
Like in the past, that would have been like the start of us now struggling and just coming at each other.
And we don't do that anymore.
Yeah. Yeah.
Which, like we said, it's still super difficult.
But yeah, I think we definitely handled it with more maturity
than we've had in the past.
Yeah, my backpack would have gotten stolen a couple years ago.
It probably would have been a just a basket.
Like, what's that character from Inside Out, that little red,
you know, the little red-
That little anger?
I would've been pissed.
Which I still was mad, but I was-
You were so mellow about it, you just handled it.
Thank you, babe.
And that's the thing, I think I had this picture
of like, arrows coming at us, and you used to,
it'd be like, oh, we're so disheveled by the arrows,
and now we just kind of like, stand there with a shield. like disheveled by the arrows. And now we just kind of like stand there with the shield. Like, come at me, bro.
My favorite scene ever in any movie, name it.
Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman.
Oh, I love it so much.
You know, no one wants to fight this battle.
They tell Diana Prince, don't you fight that battle.
There's no one's battle to fight.
She goes, watch me, it's what I'm about to do.
She suits up.
It's the first time we see her in her Wonder Woman suit.
She's about to go through this land
that they're just throwing.
I mean, arrows are flying at her every which way.
And she stands there suited up.
She puts her shield out in front of her
and her sword beside her.
And she shields all those arrows coming out.
Oh yeah, her belt of truth.
Come on now, somebody preach that word.
She has her belt of truth on.
She has that shield that's fighting off
all the flaming arrows,
and then she goes ham with that sword of the spirit.
I'm telling y'all, it is the most visual picture.
Did you say she goes ham with that sword?
Yeah, she goes ham with that sword.
Yeah, I did.
That's what I thought you said.
Yeah, I did.
I'll own that, which will lead me
to concluding this podcast with Ephesians 6.
And then I'll read my verse, but you read your verse first.
That's great.
Which is the whole armor of God.
And this just backs up what we're saying.
Like, we can't be surprised by this stuff happening.
This is Paul's like, hey, expect it.
You're in the world.
This is what you're dealing with.
And this is how you combat it.
But it says, finally, brothers, be strong in the Lord
and in the strength of his might. Put on says, finally brothers, be strong in the Lord
and the strength of his might.
Put on the whole armor of God that you may be able
to stand against the schemes of the devil.
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood,
but against the rulers, against the authorities,
against the cosmic powers over this present darkness,
against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
And see, this way you can't get chill with stuff.
This way you can't just be like,
oh yeah, it's just another event, autopilot, I'll do the same
thing. Like no, this way you got to be in prayer because you're dealing with some
real stuff up there. And it says, take up the whole armor of God that you may be
able to withstand in the evil day and having done all to stand firm, stand
therefore having fasted on the belt of truth, having put on the breastplate of
righteousness, and as shoes for your feet, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and as shoes for your feet,
having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace,
in all circumstances, take up the shield of faith,
which you can extinguish all the flaming darts
of the evil one."
Notice it in, say, some, all of them.
It's got you covered.
And the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
And this is so important. Sorry, take the helmet of salvation. The sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And this is so important. Take the helmet of salvation. Sorry, take the helmet of salvation.
The sword of Spirit.
The sword of the Spirit, where am I?
Which is the word of God, praying all times.
Okay, so then this is important, verse 18,
because I love, I think Priscilla Shire
always makes sure to preach this.
It's not just all the different parts of the armor,
but praying is part of the armor too,
because verse 18 says, praying at all times in the spirit
with all prayer and supplication.
So yeah, you gotta suit up,
but you also gotta be in prayer,
and that's why your prayer team's important,
your community group's important,
your prayers are so important.
And then it says, to that end,
keep alert with all perseverance,
making supplications for all the saints,
and also for me, that words may be given to me
and opening my mouth to boldly proclaim
the mystery of the gospel, for which I am
an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly
as I ought to speak."
And I mean, that just speaks to Paul.
He's like, I'm an ambassador in chains.
Talk about spiritual warfare.
Talk about things coming at him.
And he's asking people to pray for him
that he won't give up, that he will continue to boldly preach the gospel
because everything's coming at him and it's hard
and he's in chains, but he's like,
please pray that I will have boldness
so that I will continue to preach the gospel.
And I think that's why I like it's so important.
Again, if you're called to it, if God says go,
you don't fear the enemy more than you fear God and you go,
but you also don't
just go in blind, put your armor on and get ready, get your prayer people praying for
you so that you can actually do the task at hand and God will see you through it even
if it's scary.
That's great. Let me find mine. It feels more spiritual to read it from the Bible than my phone.
All right, 1 Corinthians 10 verse 13. I actually had a friend text me this verse
kind of after everything had happened, and I found comfort in it.
So, 1 Corinthians 10, 13, No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man.
God is faithful, and He will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the
temptation He will also provide the way of escape, that you may also be able to endure
it."
And that's just comforting.
Obviously, Scripture talks about Jesus as the great high priest and He's been tempted
in every way and kind of just meaning He can relate to things
that we walk through.
Like Sadie said, Jesus faced all the same things,
physically and spiritually, being robbed,
being beaten, being sick, all the things,
and that verse that no temptation can overtake you.
And obviously, not obviously, but if you don't know,
scripture talks about God's not the one that tempts you.
God's not the one that's bringing temptation.
It's from the enemy.
And just finding comfort in nothing that He throws at me
can overtake me.
The battle's already been won.
Jesus defeated the grave.
And yeah, so it's comforting knowing that, look,
these fiery arrows are gonna to be shot at.
But if I'm on guard, if I'm suited up, yes,
it might be annoying, it might sting,
but nothing can overtake me.
Nothing can overtake you.
And just take comfort in Jesus' words.
Like, in this world, you will face trials.
Again, don't be surprised by it.
That's a part of it.
Jesus, like, that's almost like a promise from the Lord.
You're gonna face trials.
But he says right after that,
take heart for I've overcome the world.
Consider it pure joy when you face many trials.
And just keep it going.
So again, you gotta have these verses in your heart
because those are your weapons.
That's what you fight with.
And then also worship is your weapon
when you don't know the words to say.
So that's why I blast worship music because sometimes I don't know what to pray. I don't know the words to say. So that's why I blast worship music,
because sometimes I don't know what to pray,
I don't know how to pray, but I'll worship
and I'll declare those words over my life
and over my family and then pray, pray at all times.
Pray if you don't know what to say,
text your friends and ask them to pray for you
and let them be the ears that Mike can hear
a little more clearly than you can
when you're going through a storm.
And so friends, I hope this was helpful.
This is definitely different than a lot of the podcasts
that we've done and one that we just kind of wanted
to speak from the heart and share the reality
of life sometimes and faith and when it gets messy
and how to dig deep.
And I hope it was an encouragement to you
because we know we are certainly not the only ones
that are getting some arrows thrown at us.
I'm sure every single one of you has something in your life
that you feel the enemy just coming at you with.
And we just wanted to give you some of the tools
that we've walked through and navigated to fight back
because you don't just have to be bullied by the enemy.
Pick up your stone, throw it at that giant,
and watch it fall.
Amen.
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