WHOA That's Good Podcast - Viral YouTube Stars Who Love Jesus & Just Want to Make People Laugh | Sadie Robertson Huff & JStu

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Sadie is delighted to meet Justin Stuart and Andrew Scites - otherwise known as JStu - to hear about their massively successful YouTube channel, the craziest situations they've ever found themselve...s in while filming, and why their main mission is to bring joy and laughter to people every day. Justin and Andrew can't believe they've been working together for 13+ years and tell Sadie they can't talk about success without talking about God! They remember their first viral video that started it all, how their priorities had to change when they each got married and started their families, the importance of work life balance, but also to NEVER take themselves too seriously. And why did they want to write a devotional for tweens and teens, ages 10+? Get your copy of "The JStu Survival Guide: 100 Days to Conquer Your Fears, Shatter Your Limits, and Build Your Faith" wherever books are sold!  This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored by: https://liberty.edu/Sadie — Get your application fee WAIVED when you start your future with Liberty University today! Exclusive $35-off Carver Mat at http://AuraFrames.com . Use code WHOA at checkout to save! https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Save $20 off your subscription OR $49 off when you sign up for a double subscription, plus a free Welcome Kit, bottle of D3K2, and 5 free travel packs! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:31 What's up friends? If you haven't heard my new book, The Next Step, it's a 50 devotional book, 10 weeks of just getting into the word, worshiping, asking good questions to journal and reflect on. I know you guys are gonna love it, and I really hope that it helps you form the habit of just going to encounter the Lord every single day with what your next step should be.
Starting point is 00:01:49 So go check out the next step, anywhere books are sold. I watched several and I never, which is so funny. Cause you know, most people like start it and they're like, J's too out here, but I kind of love that y'all never did. You just kind of like walk into it.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Exactly. You just hang it with us, you already know. I don't even know their names, but. Well, we've had many people come up to us mispronouncing it. Some guys like, oh, JJ Studios, what up? Like, what? Yeah, where did you get those letters from? That is the worst feeling to introduce a guest
Starting point is 00:02:15 and be like, I don't think I said their name, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. That is the worst. And I am like queen of pronouncing things wrong, so I have to check. You got it easy. ["I'm On My Way Now"] What's up everybody? Happy Woe That's Good Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I hope you're having a great week, but per usual, it's about to get so good. We have such a fun podcast on tap for today. We actually have two guys in that you might recognize, especially if you are a YouTube fan. We have, and by the way, they have a brand new book, which I'm so excited to tell y'all all about, and we're gonna dive into.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But we have Justin and Andrew from JSTU YouTube videos. So thank you guys for being on. Thank you. Thank you for having us. This is super exciting. All the way from Colorado. Yeah, Colorado Springs, Colorado. We've been there most of our lives, but it's a little different environment here,
Starting point is 00:03:09 being rainy, snowing where we are currently. This is our first time in Louisiana, so it's a new experience. Seriously, which is so fun because I feel like whenever we got, whenever we heard about y'all and we heard about your devotional book, that's kind of how I found out about y'all to be on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And the same person who books my podcast helped books the Duck Call Room podcast and the Unashamed podcast for my family. And she was like, these guys, this is just the perfect people to come into town because you're gonna love them because of their heart behind all that they do. And then sigh in them are gonna love them
Starting point is 00:03:41 because they do crazy wild things. And so we're so thankful they actually made the trip to Louisiana because I don't know then we're gonna love them because they do crazy wild things. And so we're so thankful they all actually made the trip to Louisiana because I don't know what you're gonna do in the duck call room. It's probably gonna be different than what you're doing here. But I'm super grateful you guys came down. So I always ask everybody this question on the Will It's Good Podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And if you're not ready for this, it is gonna come so out of left field. So just prepare yourself to have to think for a second, but everyone gets asked the same question when we start the podcast, and that is, what is the best piece of advice you've ever been given in your life? Which is such a small question, right?
Starting point is 00:04:19 But if you think about it for a second, what's some of the best piece of advice that you've ever gotten? Justin, you wanna kick us off? Yeah, there's been a lot, of course. But I think several years back, I heard a sermon actually. It was titled, Incorrigibly Cheerful. And I've listened to that sermon so many times
Starting point is 00:04:36 because of the impact it's had on me and the word incorrigibly, I never heard before. And it just simply means to be unmoved. When you're incorrigible, you can't change. It can't be moved in any direction. So when you're incorrigibly cheerful, no matter what your circumstances are, you can find joy. Whether it's a bad time or a good time.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And so years ago when I listened to that, it really impacted me, especially as Christians, right? So it's like, we have a hope that's greater than what the world has to offer. And so just really letting that sink in and how the sermon was presented, I was like, man, this is like, this is how I want to live my life. Wow. And courageably cheerful. No matter what I'm going through, I can find joy. That is so good. And that is like so cool because the reason I ask people that podcast is most of the people on our podcast,
Starting point is 00:05:28 people might recognize them from one thing or another. Maybe they wrote a book, they have a YouTube channel, they are on a TV show or whatever it is. And it's so cool because when you ask people like what's the best piece of advice you've been given, you can normally see how that shaped them to do what they're doing. And so much of what you guys do is under that umbrella
Starting point is 00:05:46 of being joyful and being cheerful and bringing joy to other people, which we'll get into in a little bit. But it's so cool to know that you heard a sermon, and it really changed everything for you. Do you remember who preached that sermon? Yeah, it's Eric Ludi. OK, because people are probably going to want to go look that up. Eric Ludi at Ellersley Church. Just incorrigibly cheerful, yeah. That's awesome. And when I say people are going to wanna go look that up. Yep, yep, Eric Ludi at Ellersley Church.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Just incorrigibly cheerful, yeah. That's awesome. And when I say people are gonna wanna look that up, I'm talking about myself. I definitely wanna look that up and listen to that. So that's awesome. What about you? So yeah, not necessarily like a specific piece of advice,
Starting point is 00:06:19 but I remember as a kid, we went on vacation, family vacation to visit my grandma and we're just hanging out. And my dad, he pulled out the lawn mower and started mowing the lawn. And I went and asked him, I was like, dad, what are you doing? Like we're on vacation, you're mowing the lawn. Like, I don't get it, like what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:06:37 And he's like, well, your grandma asked me to. And she's like, and he said, well, she's still my mom, I'm gonna do what she asks. And like as a kid, that just like blew my mom. I'm going to do what she asks. And as a kid, that just blew my mind. I was like, wait a minute. So as an adult, you can still respect your parents and you can still listen to them. And it's like, well, the lesson is
Starting point is 00:06:58 you're never too old to serve other people. And as a kid, that impacted me so much. I can still remember that exact moment too. I was like, wow, he like, as an adult, he still had like the, I'm gonna respect my mom. She asked me to mow the lawn, I'm gonna do it. So it's like. Wait, that's so cool.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I love that so much. And it's like those things that seem so simple, but they honor your father and mother. That's biblical, that's in the Ten Commandments. And it's like one of those things that you don't think is that big of a deal, but it's a huge deal. And I think about this is like a small thing,
Starting point is 00:07:29 but I remember my great-grandpa, he passed away when I was probably like 11, but my great-grandma is still living. And they have just taught me so much. The whole heart of this podcast actually came from something my great-grandma said to me. And it is simple, but it's like just pivotal for me. And I remember when I would spend the night with them, my grandpa would always like go sleep on the couch to let me sleep with my grandma.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And like, she was so, he was so old, you know, and like, he's my great grandpa and he would sleep on the couch. And I remember like thinking I want to marry someone who has like those characteristics, you know, and it's like those small things where it's like, it doesn't have to be necessarily at the best piece of advice. Someone dropped this this profound statement. It's like, no, who did you see that you said, I wanna live like that.
Starting point is 00:08:10 That's like an influential person to me, not just because they say things great, but the way that they live, the way that they act. And that is so cool. You can take advice from the simplest life moments and it can make you become who you are. So you guys are like crushing it. No small thing to have 8 million YouTube subscribers. I've been doing YouTube for
Starting point is 00:08:31 a long time and I don't do fun videos like you guys do. You know, mine are like long-form podcasts. But like I think I have like 600,000 followers in like 10 years which is still great and I'm so thankful for that. But like 8 million, that is amazing and so cool, and I know that doesn't just happen overnight. So tell us how you guys got started on this YouTube adventure. I mean, Andrew and I grew up as next door neighbors,
Starting point is 00:08:54 so we've been friends for I've Lost Track. 20 plus years. Yeah, it seems like a really long time. And ever, even before YouTube being young little kids we were we were making our own home movies together and back then we had cameras that you had to put the whatever VH it wasn't VHS tape like many VHS tapes and we'd have to like plug it into the TV to like rewind it and watch what we just filmed yeah a lot different than now I'm talking like we're so old.
Starting point is 00:09:25 No, I remember that. People don't think, they're like, oh yeah, you don't remember. No, I remember actually at Memo Camp, Pebbleville's house, they had the Rewinder and the VSS. And I just remember sitting there waiting as the tape rewound. So I'm hanging with you.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I'm hanging with you. Yes, you get it. And we just were making movies all the time and just had this natural drawing towards anything movies, anything acting. And so as we got older, we went to Colorado Film School together. But before that, we were making YouTube videos.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Right, but we always had a dream of doing something in the entertainment industry. So that's why I went to film school and Justin's did acting, and I did writing and producing. But the whole time, we're doing this YouTube stuff on the side, and I just feel like God really was like,
Starting point is 00:10:13 this is the entertainment space, you're in it. Keep going in that area. What were y'all inspo's at the time? What kind of movies were you loving? What kind of shows did y'all like? Movies, wow, we have a very goofy sense of humor. So I probably, back then, me and him probably watched Good Burger, like at least 50 times.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So I knew whatever you were gonna say to the answer was gonna be good. You've seen Good Burger? I have seen Good Burger, and that made me laugh. I had to ask, because y'all do have such a goofy sense of humor, so I'm like, what was y'all's inspo creatively on that? That is so funny.
Starting point is 00:10:46 That, like Nacho Libre and Napoleon Dynamite, just those goofy. Slapstick. Slapstick, yeah, yeah. Dumb and dumber. And when we were first starting YouTube, me and Andrew both had separate channels. And we created a channel with no way.
Starting point is 00:11:00 We didn't want to create a business. We weren't even thinking about that. We were just like, we can upload to YouTube to share to our friends and family. And so from the very beginning, it's interesting, seeing God's hand on it when we're not even thinking about it, that he placed us here with his sovereignty. He had a plan, even when we didn't have a plan.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And so we're just uploading just for fun from the very beginning. And that's how it kind of slowly progressed is like, oh, this is fun. Oh, we're starting uploading just for fun from the very beginning. And that's how it kind of slowly progressed, is like, oh, this is fun. Oh, we're starting to get viewers. But we were never doing it for the viewers from the beginning. And we started with public prank videos.
Starting point is 00:11:34 That was what we started with, just falling down in front of people on purpose just to see what their reaction. That's just one of the many absurd cringey things we did. We don't do it anymore, but. But okay, I think too many people are afraid of being cringey and that's what's holding them back. You know, because I think everybody starts cringey. If you go back to my original YouTube video, my first one ever, it is very similar to what I'm doing now.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It's just a cringeyer version of it, you know? Because everyone has to start somewhere and then you grow as you go. And what wasn't cringey at's just a cringier version of it. You know? Yeah. Because everyone has to start somewhere, and then you grow as you go. And what wasn't cringy at the time is cringing out. So it wasn't necessarily like, people probably thought this was really funny when you all were doing it, or maybe not. Well, we were definitely cringy on purpose.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Some of our videos are just so awkward. We were just watching some old ones the other day, and I was like, how? It was hurting my mind just watching. I was like, how? Like it was like hurting my mind just watching. I was like, why did we do that? I'm like, I need to look away. But we went through the time to be like, this is a good idea. Let's go in the store.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Let's edit this and let's upload it. And we're like, this is great. Edit, upload. I'm like, why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
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Starting point is 00:14:18 I don't know if you have like the actual OGs as the still the ones that are up, but I went down to the very bottom. It's so funny. But like the people to the very bottom, it was so funny. But the people's reaction, they would be so confused, what is this person doing? And then later you'd be like, oh, we're filming a video. And then it wasn't as awkward because they knew.
Starting point is 00:14:35 But to live in that awkward tension that they don't know you're filming a video and you're doing what you're doing is hilarious. But did y'all, have you ever cared what people thought of you? Or have you always just been like, eh, it is what it is? No, I feel like that's been a change over time.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But I feel like, again, it's like because of like YouTube, because of these like situations we intentionally have put ourselves in of like being awkward and strange around people. It's like now it's like, I don't care at all like what people think, but like there was a time where I was like, oh man, I don't know if I could do this. They'll think I'm so strange or whatever. Yeah. Y'all talked about that in one of your devotionals. It was the one where it was kind
Starting point is 00:15:13 of talking about whenever you guys walked around looking jacked or whatever. And that made me laugh so hard because that was so my husband Christian. Y'all went to Chipotle as a joke and just ordered chicken. I was like, Christian would do that. Like he would literally do that. That's actually what he does. He orders chicken with rice and a little bit of hot sauce, but that's it. And like so many things that y'all said,
Starting point is 00:15:37 that was like obviously funny. I was like, Christian actually might would say that. He'd probably get a kick out of that. Oh, he would think it's so funny. But just like stuff like that and just letting people think that you're absolutely ridiculous in those moments. That takes not taking yourself too seriously. And so I feel like that is a good lesson for people
Starting point is 00:15:55 to not take themselves too seriously and to go for it. And you guys' page is so for that. But I think everyone has a fear of what other people think in some sense and getting over that. But I do think, maybe you can speak to this, do you think y'all's friendship helped you I think everyone has a fear of what other people think in some sense and getting over that. But I do think, maybe you can speak to this, do you think y'all's friendship helped you become more confident to do those things? Probably.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I was going to say one note there too. I feel like the big difference is we're not trying to make fun of other people. So the tension's all on us. We're the ones being awkward. So it's a lot easier to like handle that way versus like if you're going out into the world and making fun like other people, it's like, that's just.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. Yeah. But when you're taking like the self-deprecation humor, whatever, it's like, you can handle that. Yeah. But I mean, if we were to do any of the videos we did by ourselves, it definitely would have been a different story.
Starting point is 00:16:42 But being able to like work together, like I have somebody to a different story, but being able to work together, I have somebody to bounce off of. We get each other's humor. So at the end of the day, if we upload the video and people don't like it, at least we made each other laugh and at least we had a good time. Well, that was really the whole goal from the start was like, we're filming videos together.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It's like the eating loudly in the library. We'll be sitting there behind camera. And the whole point is you're trying to get the camera guy to laugh, basically. So it's like, if I'm doing something and if Justin starts laughing, it's and the whole point is you're trying to get like the camera guy to laugh basically So it's like if I'm doing something and if Justin starts laughing, it's like the whole game's over I'm filming Andrew in the library Specifically since we're talking about that and I'm like crying laughing because it is so like eating food in the library is so loud on camera, it's loud, but it is very loud and
Starting point is 00:17:23 Andrew can hear me laugh in multiple scenes because I'm just like, I can't hold it back. You can see the camera like start to shake a little bit. And then it makes him laugh, which makes it even funnier on camera because he's eating. And then he just starts laughing. And the person in front of him is like, just confuse this guy's eating food and laughing.
Starting point is 00:17:38 That is so good. It's funny because my best friend and I, we started an account called Ed Stadium Lady. That was back whenever we lived together. And we just did the dumbest things. It was just so funny. And it got a pretty good following pretty fast. People thought it was so funny.
Starting point is 00:17:52 To this day, people ask me to bring it back. But we don't live in the same place anymore. We both have kids. It was different when we were actually living in the same house. But I look back at the things we did, and I'm like, I can't believe I did that. I can't see myself doing that right now.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But with your best friend, something in you just does it. We would follow closely behind people, and do weird dancing, and then we'd video the other person. We would be cracking up. And I'm like, I just would not. I can't see myself doing that right now. And then I'm like, well, I would under the right scenario. Like, if Christian was like, I dare you, I'd be like, done.
Starting point is 00:18:27 But it takes another person there making it fun. And it was so funny because we called ourselves cousins, even though we weren't cousins. But every time we hit another 1,000, like the K, we'd be like, oh, welcome, cousins. We're so glad you're here. And so the game became our cousin followers. And people just being a part of something
Starting point is 00:18:47 that was so goofy, so funny, kind of brought everybody back to childhood was just so refreshing. And I think that people see me on my page, and I fully am who I am. And we laugh at our goofy and stuff. But also, I have serious messages and this and that. But then to see me in this other context and be like, you are literally just like everyone else,
Starting point is 00:19:07 except for maybe even weirder and all that. It just takes that mass off. You know what I mean? It just makes everyone feel the freedom to be themselves. And y'all do such a good job at that. When was it that you guys knew this is actually gonna be our job? You guys were on the path
Starting point is 00:19:22 to maybe going into different TV stuff. And was there a certain video that made it that you're like, oh man, we could actually do something with this or what was it that established it? It was, we weren't really making much money for the longest time. And I even remember before getting married to my wife, her dad was like, how are you going to provide for my daughter? It's like, like literally my in-laws asked the same question. They was like, how are you going to provide for my daughter? It's like, literally my in-laws asked the same question. They're like, so you want to do YouTube?
Starting point is 00:19:49 They're like, yeah, but how are you going to make money? Yeah. You're like, oh, shoot. I got a plan. Yeah, I remember getting our first check because you couldn't get your first check until you get $100. And I was like, whoa, you can actually make money? Well, we should start taking this,
Starting point is 00:20:01 like we should start making more videos and doing this more. But I remember our first viral video was one of the pranks and it was falling is the new coning where basically it was this compilation of our best falls. We fall by people in the store on on purpose, but they thought it was an accident. We just put the best of our falls in one video, send it out to all these news outlets and they shared it and it went viral. And then from that point on, we started getting a lot more views. Did you send it to to all these news outlets, and they shared it, and it went viral. And then from that point on, we started getting a lot more views. Did you send it to the news outlets? Wait, that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Because I feel like a lot of people think to go viral, it's all depending on the algorithm. But that's actually so cool. Yeah, like back then, we literally created a spreadsheet of all these contacts, like different websites and news sites. And any time we uploaded a prank video that we're like, OK, I think this one has viral potential potential we would email and send it to
Starting point is 00:20:47 everybody like I think you should feature this on your website and all this stuff. Like doing the work for them being like hey this would be a great article. Yeah right. Here's what you could say. Wow I love that it's actually true like when people say like send podcasts it is like y'all's podcast we're like great we we would love that because we want a new podcast. And then it helps. So I think people don't realize that you can work towards those things.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I think people think social media is all depending on just people out there finding your page and following you in the algorithm. And some of it is, but a lot of it is putting yourself out there and thinking strategically and creatively. So that's so cool. Okay, so the following video goes viral. Yeah, and it just starts pouring in views
Starting point is 00:21:26 to all the other videos we start doing. And from that point on, obviously, the more views you get, the more money you start earning. And we were a part of the YouTube Partner Program back then. And so we just felt like, okay, if we keep uploading more, then that means we can make more money, and therefore this could be a full-time job for us. Yeah, it was interesting because like we were going to film school too and like in film
Starting point is 00:21:49 school, this was like before YouTube was like really established, it was like, oh, people can make a living on this platform. Like going through film school, a lot of the other students there would look down on you if you're doing YouTube because it was like viewed as like amateur and not like professional and there's no career. You just make cat videos. So yeah, that was my experience in film school, was like, oh, you don't belong here, type of mentality.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I was like, well, I don't know. I feel like there's something here, maybe. Yeah. Well, obviously, you were right. You just had to work at it for a little bit longer. So after the video started going viral, did you guys have a point in time where you had to stop pursuing the other thing to fully pursue YouTube?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Was it kind of that fork in the road or how long did you guys hold both? I'm gonna keep pursuing this and YouTube as a side thing. When did it become all in? Well, at that time I was working another job too. I was working at the youth center on the Air Force base. And at that time, I was like, that was like a job. And then we were doing YouTube.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I was like, man, if I could really focus just on YouTube, that would obviously help a lot. And there was a moment when I was at work and I had requested time off with my boss. Cause I again, wanted to go visit my grandma. And she had like, this was like weeks in advance. And it came to like the day, like I was about to leave. And she was like, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:23:07 You can't go anymore. Cause if you go, that means I'll have to cover for you. And I don't want to. And I was like, are you kidding me? Like I already bought tickets. I let you know like weeks in advance. And it's like that was like the pivotal moment for me where I was like, I'm not gonna like work for someone who's
Starting point is 00:23:22 or like just in general, like people who are gonna like take away from like my dreams and like what I wanna do. So it's like, yeah, let's go all in on YouTube. Let's make this work. Yeah, and being in college too, kind of like, when we were at college, I wasn't working a job up there. Like we had an apartment, focusing all my time on school.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And so we had a lot more time to kind of put towards like YouTube. And as I started just gaining more money, we're like, well, I'm never going back to the standard what I was doing before. I was a waiter at California Pizza Kitchen, but I got fired. So that was kind of, that was my last job. And I'm like, I'm just sticking with YouTube. Maybe you're the person that likes to give the funny gift or maybe the sentimental gift, but whatever your strategy is, this is the year to level up your gift-giving game with
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Starting point is 00:25:29 to do different things, and right now they're working at, you know, California Pizza Kitchen being like, oh, this is not what I wanna do, or like, what is my next step? And they're kind of like waiting on something like, I don't know, miraculous to happen. And it's like really inspiring to be like,
Starting point is 00:25:44 no, like you can go and work towards making it happen. And obviously like you mentioned, this is God's plan for your life and like God has to be in it for, I feel like for it to succeed and all of those things. But like you do have a lot of work in your own hands that you can actually do to make these things happen. And I think when it comes to like YouTube especially,
Starting point is 00:26:01 that is so much hard work because you're filming the content, you're uploading the content, editing the content, coming up with creative ideas. So that's why I was like, I know there had to be a point where you had to go all in because that is a all in kind of job. I watched the like toilet paper fort or whatever video,
Starting point is 00:26:17 which is funny cause I noticed on the devotional, there is the toilet paper. Yep. Classic. I thought there was a nod to that. It was like 32 million views. It was like so huge. When y'all did that, did y'all think, oh, this is going to be a huge success?
Starting point is 00:26:29 Yes. You did? Well, maybe not the very first one. That was more of like just for fun. Yeah, because before we uploaded like that mega viral one, we were doing toilet paper forts where we just go into Walmart and go in the toilet paper section and build like a
Starting point is 00:26:45 little shelter in the in the shelf and then those were really popular with our our fan base and We we kept teasing like hey, maybe we'll stay overnight here Oh, you guys want to see that and so eventually we got to the point of like These are doing so successful and we've talked about doing an overnight in the toilet paper section at Walmart for so long that we upload it. Yeah, like Andrew said, I didn't think it would ever get 30 million views, that's for sure. But we knew it would be like a big video. But it's kind of a weird thing too, like, before you even start the project knowing that like this is going to be big. Like, that's like a weird feeling.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah. It's definitely weird. I think that's cool though, you know there's something to it. There's like, for me, in my own job,, like there's certain messages that I'm about to share that I'm like, this is gonna be really big. Like you feel the weight of it, you know? And whatever job you carry, like it's yours to steward well. And so I feel like there's some moments in life
Starting point is 00:27:35 where you're like, I need to do a good job with this because this is going to reach a lot of people in whatever context that is, you know? And my purpose or mission is in this way and y'all's is in that, but it's so cool because all under the umbrella of sharing Christ. Which that's why, like, whenever I saw your stuff, that's what jumped out is like on your YouTube bio,
Starting point is 00:27:53 you have like two Bible verses. Think of like John 3, 16 maybe and the Proverbs 17 where it talks about like the cheerful heart. It's like, it's so cool that like that's your intention. And even though it's not like you're having, you're not like preaching the gospel in every video, but you're sharing Christ in every video through like the fruit of the spirit that's your intention. And even though it's not like you're not preaching the gospel in every video, but you're sharing Christ in every video through the fruit of the Spirit that's on it.
Starting point is 00:28:10 It's so cool. This is called the Survival Guide. And so you'll obviously get into all of the different survival videos that you guys make. When did you all start doing the more risky things that you all got into. It feels like our dangerous hotel was like the step into like... Yeah, I can't remember,
Starting point is 00:28:31 because we did that overnight on the side of the cliff. Was that before or after that? That may have been before. Well, it was after, I feel like. I don't know, but yeah, we have definitely stepped into the, what's like a really hard place to get to that we can stay overnight? And I'm like, I don't necessarily just wanna be doing
Starting point is 00:28:46 dangerous stuff, but we did that dangerous hotel video and that was another video where we're like, this is gonna do really well. What was the premise of that one? I haven't seen that one. It's this oil rig in the middle of the ocean, basically that's abandoned, but this guy bought it and turned it into a hotel.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And so to get there, you have to take a helicopter and it's rusty. He's the only one who owns it, so he's in charge of fixing it, and so it's rusting over and everything. And he's repairing the beams because they're all rusted and falling apart. And he's like, oh, I just put a new one over there
Starting point is 00:29:17 so you can walk over there now. We're like, huh? Yes. How did y'all even find out about that? Some picture online, it was- I don't know. Yeah, I came across a picture and then contacted him and he's like, yeah, just pay.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And he had his own website and everything and went out there and it was an insane experience. Oh my God. But we knew, cause like when it comes to YouTube, like if you don't have a good title or thumbnail before you go into the video, it's not gonna do well. Like you need to have a good thumbnail and need a good title otherwise the video will tank.
Starting point is 00:29:47 And so that one we knew, world's most dangerous hotel. The thumbnail is this oil rig and just the water and it looks janky because everyone looks at it and they're like, what is that? Makes you wanna click. And then you click it, we get right into it and we're in the helicopter, we get there and it was a crazy adventure.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So yeah. Back to you don't introduce yourself, you go right into it and we're in the helicopter, we get there and it was a crazy adventure. Back to you don't introduce yourself, you go right into it. Before we started the podcast, I was like, is it pronounced Jay Stu? I'm like, because none of your videos do you go, what's up guys, it's Jay Stu. Y'all just like start in the action, which is true, it keeps you there.
Starting point is 00:30:18 You're like, what is happening? And no, that is one that I would never ever do. I would never go to the Ocean Hotel, is a no, I'm out on that one. That is crazy. I actually watched the Cliff one. And one of the things that I thought was so sweet and funny, because your fans have followed you for a long time. They watch all your videos.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And they're like, this is the first time I've ever seen you nervous, Andrew. This is the first time I've ever seen. It was just funny. They're like, I can tell you're actually scared. Like, were you actually scared? Yeah, I was super nervous. They look terrifying. I mean, they just built this little platform
Starting point is 00:30:50 like on the edge of the cliff. And you're like, you're supposed to trust this? Shaky. I mean, heights, I'm not good with heights in general. So like that was genuinely like nervous. People can tell. I was like, that's awesome. Cause I've watched like such a random assortment
Starting point is 00:31:06 of your videos. So like I see the overnight in Walmart and I'm like laughing that the cat bag thing. And then I see like this cliff thing. I'm like, yeah, that was an escalation. It did get, it did get crazy. And then the submarine, like you guys have done some crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:18 How did getting married change what y'all are doing? Did it change what you were doing? Like how did you continue up the pace and doing your wives cool with the survival guide stuff? How did that change the dynamic? Yeah, I mean, I've been with my wife for 10 years. And so even before YouTube as well, is like she's been a part of it since the beginning,
Starting point is 00:31:39 high school sweethearts. But as we've gotten older and matured in different ways and had children, that has obviously changed the outlook on how we do it and has just influenced like, okay, I need to be a provider, but I need to be smart. And so that's, you know, over the years, I feel like being married and being influenced in that way has helped kind of mature us and take things more seriously, even though we're having fun all the time. Yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 00:32:11 And especially like the balance too. It's like, obviously if we weren't married, we could spend 24 seven just on YouTube, just making videos, editing, whatever. But like with family, you kind of got to balance that. So I feel like we've done a pretty good job of finding that balance. We work Monday to Friday, 10 to 5.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And that's sort of, I mean, there's other days where you got to work more or less or whatever. But that's sort of like our structure. And we try to stick to that pretty rigid, just to maintain that balance. I think that's so cool. I love that, I think a lot of people think whenever you get married, well, I don't think a lot of people think this,
Starting point is 00:32:46 listening to this podcast, but I think generally from the world's perspective, people think, oh, if you get married, that's the end of the fun or whatever, and then you gotta settle down. And I think it's so beautiful. I don't think that is not the picture. It's like two people becoming one,
Starting point is 00:33:01 and then your dreams form together into one. And you serve that vision in different ways for your family, and it's just, it's so beautiful. It doesn't have to take away, it actually adds so much too. You're adding another person in the picture, especially if you marry the right person, they're a champion of what you're doing, you're a champion of what they're doing,
Starting point is 00:33:18 you have the same goals in mind, and then you bring your kids into the picture, and yeah, it matures you, I think it gives you more purpose in what you're doing, you're more purpose in what you're doing. You're more intentional with what you're doing, but again, it doesn't take away, it adds to. And I think about just the things that I'm doing, the travel I do, the speaking I do.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And before I had kids, I thought, man, that might slow it all down, but it made me more balanced and it made me more intentional in my time. Like what'd I say yes to and then more intentional with what I'm saying. Cause I'm like, I really think this is impacting the world. You know, and I really think it's starting to pave a path
Starting point is 00:33:53 that my girls will be able to walk in. And even like passion that I have for college campuses, it's like, maybe we're gonna continue to see revival on college campus, but it's how my girls go to college. It's not like, oh, these are the wild years. It's like, no, these are the years revival happens. You know what I mean? And so you get so much more passion, so much more purpose, more intentional, more balance.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And I think that narrative that culture tries to throw out, it's so important to speak against it when you've experienced God's vision and purpose for marriage. And it's really cool to see you guys have youthful fun, but doing it with such intentionality and so much purpose. Obviously like you guys just wrote this devotional book I talked about, and it's so cool how you guys have like,
Starting point is 00:34:35 kept God at the center. How did y'all both like, start a relationship with the Lord in the first place? And has it always been such an important part into y'all's YouTube journey and what y'all do for a living? All the credit goes to the Lord because, you know, being dead in sin, like, I had no ability in myself, in my sin, lost to choose Him. But He came and changed my heart. And so,
Starting point is 00:35:01 like, being raised in a Christian household for most of my life, I've been around, you know, the Bible and God and called myself a Christian. But it was in that I don't have like a moment where I was like, like the light bulb went off, but it was like over time, it's like God has always been changing me and gets the credit for it. And so I can only point to him, nothing that I have done to deserve or earn it. So his grace has been just the most impactful thing for me by you, Andrew. Yeah, I mean, I'd say pretty similar. My parents are Christian, grew up around the faith and stuff. But it wasn't until college college when it was like really
Starting point is 00:35:45 kind of like, I feel like hit me like personally, where it's like, man, I'm trying to like, trying to pursue this like degree and I'm trying to do this YouTube and have this job and it's all too stressful. And I, cause I can remember very specific moment, like laying in my bed being like, Lord, like I can't do this on my own.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Like that's where it's like, I, I'm giving my life to you because this burden, me trying to do all this, not gonna work. Yeah, yeah. No, it's so real. I feel like everyone comes to that point. ["Dreams of a New Age"]
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Starting point is 00:37:57 That's drinkag1.com slash woe. I heard this sermon recently and it was talking about how like your dead descends, like you're dead. It's not just like your loss, like you're dead. And so I love that it's like, it really is like, I can't do it alone. Like I'm incapable. A dead person can't help themselves is what Louis Kiglio says in his sermon. Like if you're dead, you can't help yourself. Like you're totally dependent, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:21 And yeah, so to become fully alive in Christ, it's like, I can't even talk about it without Him. Like you can't even like talk about your success without Him. You can't even talk about your journey without Him because it's just like, you owe everything. And I totally relate to that. It's really cool too that y'all write this. Like, I think it was like ages 10 and up was like the recommended age or something.
Starting point is 00:38:40 But like it's for kids too. And I think that's so, I think that's so important that kids at a young age see people like yourselves, like two men who are like so successful in the world's eyes, but like truly giving all the glory and the credit to God and like taking these fun stories, but like rooting it in truth. And I think that that's like super cool thing about how Jesus meets us. He like meets all of us where we're at. And my husband always says this because him and my dad were talking one day and my dad was talking about evangelism and what ministry would look like for my husband because mine looks one way and everyone's looks a little bit different, but ministry is just how you live your life for Christ,
Starting point is 00:39:18 right? And he was telling my husband, he's like, you know how whenever Jesus met Peter and Peter was fishing and then he says to Peter, like come with me and I'll make you a fisher a man. And he's like, he relates to Peter and what he loves to do. And he's like, I'm gonna show you how to do that on mission for Christ for me. So I'm gonna make you a fisher a man. So I know what you love.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I know what you're passionate about. Now let's do that for Christ. And so he's talking to Christian about like Christian, you love working out. So like, how can you do that and inspire people to do that for Christ." And so he's talking to Christian about, Christian, you love working out. So how can you do that and inspire people to do that with the Lord? And so Christian now does these four-eight-men PDFs where he writes Bible studies rooted in Jesus and the Word,
Starting point is 00:39:55 but around working out. And that's his ministry path. And then I look at you guys, and it's all these different adventures that you guys have done, which are like so crazy, so wild, so fun, but all have like biblical truth to them which is like amazing. Has this just what was the writing process like for you guys as far as taking these fun experiences that you had and putting a message behind it? I feel like you nailed it though. It's like
Starting point is 00:40:22 all these like adventures and stuff like going back and writing about it. It feel like you nailed it though. It's like all these like adventures and stuff, like going back and writing about it. It's like being able to see like, oh, what was God teaching us for this video or whatever. So being able to write that and be like, whoa, there was like a really cool lesson there. If we didn't write the book, I probably would have missed it. Yeah, no, it's so true. That's what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I was like, I wonder if this challenged y'all to even discover the message that you maybe didn't see at first. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely challenged me. And I had a season years ago where I felt like I was in maybe a legalistic way of thinking, where I almost wanted to give up doing YouTube because I felt like I wasn't doing enough.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Like I'm just being this goofy guy on YouTube, not talking about the Lord, like that's not enough. And, you know, looking back on it now, God has obviously been involved in that moment and worked through me through that situation. But realizing that like all of life as believers, everything we do is worship. If we look at it like we are saved.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And so my actions on our YouTube channel can be worship. Like no matter what you do, do it all for the glory of God. And whether we eat, drink, making goofy adventures, like we can do it and glorify God. So having that realization kind of like shifts my perspective. And it's not just like at church, but also in everything. And so looking back has just opened up my eyes and been like, wow, like he's saying, when you look at this idea,
Starting point is 00:41:51 it doesn't look like anything could come from it, right? Sleeping on the side of a cliff. But then if you really look back, you can find God in everything. Yeah, it's so good. It's so true, my grandma, she is like queen of seeing God in everything. No, some people, they just see it.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Like, it's so natural to them. They can take a moment and turn it into an analogy or a message very quickly. And my grandma is like that. And so she would always be like, we go see a movie. She'd be like, how'd you see God in that movie? And just challenging you to think about it. And I'm so grateful for that, because people
Starting point is 00:42:21 ask me a lot of times, like, how do you come up with these analogies? And it's not like, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, how can I form this into just like, I naturally see God in it? Because I had a grandma who was constantly challenging me to see God in it, you know? And once you see, like, you can't miss it. Like, he's so obvious. He's in all things, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:40 And I mean, he is the creator of the universe. So he is in all of his creation. And so it preaches to you, it speaks to you, it declares his glory, even movies. Like people who wrote the movie are created by God. So even unintentionally write storylines that represent the heart of the father, you know? And it's so cool.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And so, yeah, it's amazing whenever you have the eyes to see it and you look back at it. But you guys have been in so many scenarios where like you are in God's creation. And sometimes God's creation is crazy. We are in the submarine and the waves are insane. And I would have been literally terrified. Have you ever had a moment in one of your survival moments
Starting point is 00:43:15 that you truly were like, okay, God, we need you? Yeah, and I wrote about it in the devotional, actually. We had our build team build this makeshift volcano. So it's pretty tall. And we rented a crane and they also built this like metal cage. Cause we've done this series where we do like unbreakable boxes.
Starting point is 00:43:37 So you have to break either into a box or break out of a box using tools. So super fun. And so we attached the metal box to the crane and lifted it over the volcano and slowly were lowering it into the volcano for just a fun type of concept. And I was in the box. And so in the bottom of the volcano though, they put a ton of dry ice because we had water in there because we wanted it to like look like it was a volcano and the lower I got didn't realize that like the the dry ice
Starting point is 00:44:09 was producing the what is it carbon dioxide yeah there was no air flow yeah no airflow so the lower I got in the more carbon dioxide I was exposed to so like I was just getting lower in there and my heart at one point just started racing and I started like getting a ton of anxiety because I was like, this is not good, clearly. No. And so then thankfully they pulled me out pretty quickly and pulled me up and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:35 ah, dude, I do not want to do this again. But that story looking back on it, it was just reminding me of like the gospel being like, we're in a cage, we can't save ourselves. We need God to pull us out. That's good. And he does. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And so that was a moment for me that I was like. Oh my gosh, yeah, that is stressful. That's so cool though. Like again, looking back at those moments, and I think that's a true testament to just life in general. It's like those hard moments that you're like, I'm not getting anything out of this, why am I here? Why is this happening to me?
Starting point is 00:45:04 And then you look back and like, those are normally some of the most pivotal, you know, moments that you're like, I'm not getting anything out of this. Why am I here? Why is this happening to me? And then you look back and like those are normally some of the most pivotal, you know, moments that you learn the most from and it shapes you into who you are. Actually, we were joking about Cy being on this podcast yesterday and him being so crazy and saying crazy things. But at one point he was just like, he asked my dad and Alan who were on the podcast, he was like, what made you the man that you are? And they were like, uh, like, he was like, no, no, seriously, what made you the man that you are? And they were like, you could tell there was an answer he wanted them to say.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And dad was like, why don't you just tell me what the answer is? And then Uncle Si was like, the hardships you've endured, like the hard, it's those moments that made you the man that you are. And they were like, no, it's actually so true. And it was just funny because he really does have a lot of wisdom sometimes.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Sometimes he goes around the bush, but that was such a direct thing. And it's like, yeah, you think about those moments and that was probably just a brief second in time where you're like, your heart's racing, you can't breathe, all that stuff. But then it takes you to those bigger moments in life where you're like, man heart's racing, you can't breathe, all this stuff, but then it takes you to those bigger moments in life where you're like, man, that was really hard.
Starting point is 00:46:07 But yet the Lord saved me. And it's so cool to see how those moments really shape you into who you're coming. I remember whenever I was a young kid working so hard because I wanted to be on the varsity team in middle school. So I would shoot a hundred shots a day and have to make them before I could go inside. You know learning is an essential part of our life at a young age but especially
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Starting point is 00:48:46 Go for it. We're building a new warehouse. Hey! Which is fun for us. We, I don't know, like we started making YouTube videos. Obviously like everyone starts kind of in their room or in their basement or whatever. So we've kind of evolved from like just our house
Starting point is 00:48:59 to like renting an office. Then we bought a place and we built like a little studio. So this is kind of like the final evolution of everything we've learned and putting it all into one giant build and building of exactly how we want it laid out and stuff. And it's really exciting for us. That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:49:15 That's huge. That is no small thing. Y'all just sitting here talking about this studio and y'all are building a whole warehouse. That's awesome. We're looking around like, oh, we can like take some of these concepts to our warehouse. That's so cool. Yeah, I oh, we can like take some of these concepts to our warehouse.
Starting point is 00:49:25 That's so cool. Yeah. I mean, we upload two times a week, at least on our channels, because we have multiple. And like, we're always trying to think of like the next idea to get more views and everything. And so we got the warehouse. I think for me, I'm really excited because I just love creating whatever it may be. And so that's why this book has been so exciting, because it's like a little different.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Like we're creating videos every week. Book is super new. We in the past have launched a coffee company. It didn't do as well, but we got to do it. And so for me, I'm really excited about this graphic novel series that I'm working on. Because it's like a little different than YouTube videos and it's kind of a fun way to tell stories
Starting point is 00:50:10 in a different way. That's cool. So that's what I'm looking forward to, aside from the obvious making YouTube videos. And then also we just launched like basically our first feature film this year. Oh my gosh. And part of this warehouse, the reason why we're building it
Starting point is 00:50:24 like is so we can maybe produce more independent films. Wow. It would be really fun. So we're- You guys have all the skills to do it. I mean, you went to school for it, and y'all have street cred, for sure. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:50:39 So there's like, yeah, there's details that we're still trying to figure out, how can we make this work long-term, like making movies and stuff, but we're already writing another script. It's gonna be really fun. But as long as we can continue, because you've touched on it a little bit,
Starting point is 00:50:54 like our motto on our channel is proverb 1722. It's laugh daily, which comes from that. A joyful heart is like medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones. We believe that with our whole heart. So many people in the world lack a joyful heart. So if we can provide that, whether it's through videos, whether it's through podcasts, like we're doing a good thing. And so we want to be able to provide laughter and joy
Starting point is 00:51:17 in any way possible. And so, probably can do that. It's so needed, honestly, in the world. And I think one thing that I've just taken, and I think so many people listen to this. So many people want to be influenced nowadays. So many people want to do YouTube, TikTok, Instagram for a living, which is great.
Starting point is 00:51:34 That's needed. And I think people are doing an incredible job with it. But there are so many people doing it with a lack of joy. There's so many people doing it in the hustle and the striving of producing the content that's actually going to keep those in the algorithm and the thumbnail and the title and the this and the that. And it's stressful and it is a lot. I'm not saying that you guys haven't had probably a lot of hard days and a lot of stress and all of that too. But like at the core, you guys did it because you love doing it and
Starting point is 00:52:01 because it was fun and because that was naturally who y'all were as people and it bled into this thing that was an overflow of who you are and what you loved doing and people loved it. And I think that like, if it is genuinely like, you know, what God has created you for, you're gonna have like joy in it. You're gonna feel like a purpose or is it an excitement for it.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And like for me, like I said, I have had YouTube like 10 years. And my following compared to y'all's feeling, I could look at it and be like, oh, well, how am I here? But I'm like, man, I'm so grateful for where I'm at. And I've done this for so long. And I love doing it so much that I look forward to the years that I will continue doing it, because there's a joy in it.
Starting point is 00:52:40 There's a purpose in it. I love it. And I think there's such a temptation to look around and be like, oh, should I do that kind of video because that's what they're doing and it's working. And I've even done that. I've been like, oh, let's try this. And it doesn't work because it's not true to who I am.
Starting point is 00:52:53 That was actually kind of the heart of y'all's devo that I was reading about the Machiavellian person. It's like, don't try to be someone you're not. Just stay in your lane. Do what is on your heart to do. And just let that be like the overflow of how you live your life. And I feel like God blesses that.
Starting point is 00:53:10 And the integrity of it is so cool because you look back at your videos 10 years ago, eight years ago, and even though it's a little different, it's the same. You know, like the thread is the same, the heart is the same, the tone, the laughter. Just like for me,
Starting point is 00:53:24 you look at my video 10 years ago, it's a little different, but the heart's the same, the tone, the laughter. Just like for me, you look at my video 10 years ago, it's a little different, but the heart's the same, the feeling's the same, purpose is the same, because that's like the mission you're on. And so speak into that a little bit. I love that because like, be who God made you to be. We each have been given a unique set of abilities that only we have.
Starting point is 00:53:43 And so it reminds me of the parable of the talents. Like God gives us each talents. So what are you gonna do with those talents? Are you gonna bury them? Or are you gonna go out and use them for the glory of God and to change the world to be a difference in whoever your audience may be? It might be an audience of millions
Starting point is 00:54:02 or it might be an audience of two little ones at home. Right? And that both, they're not a scale of like, well, subscribers views are more valuable. It's not that it's the impact of what God has called you to impact. If it is those two kids, like love them well, the best of your ability, take those two talents
Starting point is 00:54:23 and turn them into more. So true. So yeah, and like our gifts are really meant to serve other people too. So like if you, whatever your gifting is, and if it's, if you're just looking at it like, oh, how do I make more money just for me? Or how do I gain more followers just so I feel cooler,
Starting point is 00:54:39 whatever, but it's like your gifts, like use them to serve others. Yes, it's so true. I was listening to a sermon this morning, Tim Keller, and he said, God's like a tornado. He always sucks you in to spend you out. Like it's never just for yourself. It's never just like, oh, he brings you in just to stay there.
Starting point is 00:54:57 He brings you in to then send you out. And I was like, that is so good. And he was talking about using your gifts for others. And it's so the heart of who God is. I was actually reading like in Isaiah the other day, Isaiah 41, and it kept saying like all the promises that God will do for his people. It's like, I will do this, I will do this, I will do this.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And there's like 14 I will statements in that. And then compared to, I think it was like Isaiah 14 or something, when it was the enemy saying these I will statements, and it was all like what he will do for himself. But all of God statements and it was all like what he will do for himself. But all of God's I wills were like, what he will do for others, what he will do for his people.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And I was like, that is so cool. And I'm like, well, that, and I was thinking about from social media because that's what I do. And I was like, man, I think it's so tempting in these spaces to like want to do things for yourself. You know, it's like, you're gaining a following,
Starting point is 00:55:44 you're putting out how many likes are you getting. But it's like when you flip that and it's like, no, I'm doing this for other people, then like you said earlier, you can be confident even if they didn't like it, we liked it. Even if like, man, that didn't perform as well, I thought it was important.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And sometimes I've seen this on this podcast. There have been episodes that have like, man, so many views because maybe we had like a great title or whatever, and it was like a good conversation. But then there's been other conversations with people who were like less known that we've had like the best conversation that's like truly so impactful,
Starting point is 00:56:16 that maybe has less listens. But I'm like, if 10 people heard that and were changed by it, that makes so much more impact than the however many hundreds of thousands have heard. You know what I mean? So yes, weighing that impact and what's actually impactful, what's actually influencing people is so important.
Starting point is 00:56:35 But you guys are awesome. This has been so fun to have you all on. And I genuinely look forward to seeing what you guys do with the rest of my family today. But just a reminder, the Survival Guide from JSU, this is a devotional book. This is really gonna be good for anyone, but especially if you have kids.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I cannot wait to read this to Honey. She loves little things like this, and she's gonna love it. I know she's a little young for this, but she is my little cautious child, so I'm always trying to teach her to be brave and fearless, and so I love that that is so much of what y'all talk about and it make it fun. So if you have kids,
Starting point is 00:57:08 you gotta get this devotional book for them. Thank you guys so much truly for being on the podcast and sharing your heart. It was so cool to hear. Thank you for having us. Thanks for having us. It was great. you

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