WHOA That's Good Podcast - What Phil & Miss Kay Robertson Taught All of Us | Korie, Lisa, Missy & Jessica

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

For the first time ever, the "Duck Wives" —Korie, Missy, Lisa, and Jessica Robertson —are all sitting down to spill on marriage, family, parenting, and what it was really like joining the Robertson crew. They get real about how Phil and Miss Kay’s relationship shaped their own early days of marriage, and why Miss Kay was that go-to person when things got tough. They’re also dropping some sweet (and maybe a little chaotic) updates about their kids and grandkids. You seriously don’t want to miss this heartwarming convo! This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://shopbeam.com/sadie — Get up to 35% off PLUS 2 free gifts with code SADIE Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://trymiracle.com/WHOA and use the code WHOA to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Chapters:  00:00 First time the sisters-in-law have recorded an episode together 01:37 Lisa's marriage & parenting advice 03:56 Missy's marriage & parenting advice 08:46 Jessica's marriage & parenting advice 14:00 Helping each other 17:00 What Miss Kay taught them about marriage 29:25 Being a Robertson wife 35:13 Life updates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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But before we do that, on this podcast, one of the things that the reason Sadie even started this podcast is how much she learned from other people and women and in her life, just life advice. And so we put out for questions to the audience of like, what do you want to know? And overwhelmingly, the questions were about parenting and marriage. So I know all of you guys have a lot of experience in both parenting and marriage. There's a lot of kids. The age does. Yeah, there's a lot of kids among us, and there's a lot of years of marriage among us. So let's just first start with that.

If you could get this like your best piece of advice in marriage and your best piece of advice in parenting. No big deal here, but just or something. something that would help the audience in those things. Lisa, do you want to start? Sure. So I would say that my best piece of marriage advice would be forgiveness to start with the small things because if you can forgive the small things, then whenever the big things come, it's a lot easier to forgive those.

We all make mistakes, and we're all going to hurt one another. And so I just think that forgiveness is probably one of the most important things that Al and I have in our marriage. Yeah, that's good. And then parenting advice, I don't know, because I've got grandkids now and now I've got married grandkids. So I would say to that part, probably to work to have a good relationship with your children, when they're small, when they're teenagers, when they're young adults, so that whenever they are grown and out of the house, then you have that relationship, that godly,

but not just a relationship, a friendship, that they want to be friends with you, that they want to spend time with you. And whenever we're home, I mean, our kids are at our house, our grandkids are at our house. you know we we gave away our big house to our daughter and we moved into a small house because we thought well all the activity will go on at my daughter's house nope they're all at the small house but I love that because then we have that relationship with them

and not so much to you know to teach them anymore but but now just to be an example for them and their relationship with their spouse, but also how to train their children. That's so good. I love the way you put that relationship because I think that, you know, I always think about how our relationship with our kids is teaching them about their relationship with God.

Like we're the first example of kind of that father, mother relationship. And if you think about that's what we want our relationship with God. Is it to be a relationship? It's relational. It's not just like a friendship. Yeah, I love that. So good. All right, Missy.

Okay, so a little along the lines of what Lisa said about forgiveness, but my thought was grace to overlook a lot of the little stuff and just kind of let it roll off your back because Jace has the big stuff down. He is treating people well. He is treating people with kindness. He is giving forgiveness. He is giving grace. You know, but sometimes those little day-to-day things.

Yeah. You know, I mean, people know, Jace. and I have been told by a very good friend of mine that I'm a no-nonsense gal because she says she's total nonsense so we're like exactly the opposite but we get along great so I'm like okay I'm kind of looking at myself like that

like I don't really put up with a lot of nonsense just can be nonsensical a lot really let's just get real here so I think it's just that whole like grace thing and there's been a few times that I've had to learn that because he will just say things out loud all of the time and like ask questions all day long. And once a few years ago, I was like, I do not have time to fix all, answer all of your questions all day long. I do not understand why you're asking me.

I'm like a walking Google or something. And he was like, oh, I'm not asking you. I'm just like saying stuff out loud. It's just my thoughts out loud. So I'm like, this is good information. Yeah. I just don't answer anything. He just starts asking questions.

So a lot of that is just grace, you know, because he gives me a lot of grace as well. And we've worked on that for 35 years, to 35 years this year. And we have a new season. It's empty nesting. You know, me as senior year, we had a baby drop from the sky. So that kind of interrupted that. but it's it's a lot of time alone together got to make it work yeah um and then parenting i love the stage of parenting i'm in i did not know that it could get this good and it goes

back to being friends what lisa said being friends with your adult children and that doesn't just happen and if you're friends too soon when they're growing up that was never my goal i can honestly say that none of my children growing up ever said my mom is my best friend no I was not so and that was never my goal but now I've heard Mia say that I've heard Reid say that and even about like their dad as well and Karina and so that's amazing being able to yeah you know listen to their questions give the advice, be friends. Mia calls and vents to me, you know, about girl drama at school. So, and really wants to know my opinion about stuff.

So I love the stage that I'm in and the grandparenting stage. There is nothing better. Yeah. No one can ever tell you or explain it to you until you actually live it out. It's so true. It's awesome. It's so true. How great is it that we're all grandparents.

That's crazy. We're all grandmals. We love it. It's insane. And it really is. It's just the best. It really is the best life. And I always knew I'd love being a grandma.

I feel the same way. But until you experience it, you don't understand. We could try to explain it this whole entire hour, and it will not do it justice. And I was a grandmother at 39. Wow. Yeah. I mean, you know, a lot of people have babies in their 30s and late 30s and sometimes into the 40s. But nope, I had my grandkids at 39.

It's so much fun. It is. I love it. I was sitting talking with my grandmother, who's 94. I went over and had coffee with the other day and was just thinking about how I'm 51. I have like 43 years left to get there. I have so much time. And watching, she was there to see Sadie, you know, have kids just recently.

And I was like, that's me getting to see Honey have her baby, but not just that. I think it's Honey's baby having her baby. Her third baby. Isn't that crazy for her third baby? Yes. I'm like, what a gift. I mean, God, if I get to live that long, how amazing would that be? It just feels like such a gift.

I think you will. You've got great genes. Thank you. Well, we have eternity anyway. That's right. That's right. I mean, we're talking last night or yesterday at the shower about, you know, I hope I just want to remember everything. We will.

Yeah. We will. We're going to be able to remember every single funny thing. All of our kids said, all of our grandkids said, all of that. That's what eternity is. amazing. That's the best. All right. I love it. Jessica. So when Lisa started, I was thinking grace and forgiveness, obviously. I feel like that's really a key in marriage. And I think that one time, I mean, I would say, people say that it's the first

year is a struggle, but I said the first seven years was a struggle. And Lisa can attest to that because we went to her and owl many times for counseling. But I just remember, you know, there was a moment in our marriage that was really tough. And I remember once we started loving each other and knowing that we needed grace, just as much as he needs grace, we learned we were on the same team. And that was a pivotal point in our marriage where we were like, I'm on your team. I'm on your side. And once we, you know, at first you're like, you're nitpicking every little thing. But once we got on the same team, I felt like it was so much easier.

And obviously, we all need grace and we all need forgiveness on the daily. You know, so that was something I feel like in our marriage that, you know, once we realize my husband is rooting for me. Yeah. That helped me, you know, get through and show grace and show forgiveness when there was some tough times, you know. And I think parenting, oh, goodness, I know that for me, and I feel like everybody does it differently. And I think for me, it's, you know, knowing that we're not perfect and being able to say, I'm sorry, right? even do your kids, raise them to know, like, hey, I fall short to. And so that was something I've always done is like, if I lose it, my cool with them,

like on up to it and say, look, I'm sorry. And to raise my kids to know, like, it's okay, it's okay. You're going to make mistakes. And when you can get to the point where you could say you're sorry and humble yourself, that really helps in life with marriage, friendships, your children. But yeah, and just not put too much pressure. There's so many different ways, right, from are you going to nurse or are you, you're going to, you know, what shots are you going to give your kids? And, oh, are they on a

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That was so good. Everybody's advice. I love it. And as you were talking about. going to Lisa. I want to say that. Lisa has been, Sadie and I were talking about that yesterday. She was like, Lisa is such a gift to our family. Like, I know she is. As the first, I don't want to say the oldest. I said the first sister-in-law, the first Robertson wife, you have been, just meant so much to all of us. I know we've probably all gone to you and Allen for marriage advice

and help. And times when we were like at our lowest and needed it something to like help get us through. So thank you for that, Lisa. Absolutely. And here we go. We're going to cry. You started tearing up now. You know what? The only way that I could do that is having that same struggle myself and God healing that area of my life. And so for me,

whenever he heals a certain area of my life, I'm like, okay, that's what I need to share. That's what I need to help other people with. Because, I mean, you just look out there and there's a lot of hopeless people out there. I mean, a lot of people in marriage that are hopeless, just a lot of young adults that are just hopeless, you know. And so for me, if God's healed this particular area, okay, let's talk about that.

And I'm going to bring that to the forefront because I know somebody else is struggling with that same thing. Yeah, that's so good. I'm going to pile on a little bit, Lisa, sorry, but you kind of just have a way of just jumping in when you see a need. And it reminded me when you said that, it reminded me of before we were pregnant, with me and I lost two babies, you know, and they had to surgically be removed. And it was devastating, just emotional. And waking up, you know, my mom may have been there once, I think, and another older lady from church. It was almost like deja vu. It happened twice in a row within a few days. The next thing I know is Lisa, because I'm covered in blood from internal bleeding and then it all

came out in the surgery. It was just gross. Yeah. And Lisa gets me up out of the hospital bed and takes me into the shower and just gives me a shower. And I'm, you know, butt-necked, you know. And it's like there was no inhibition. There was no, oh, do you want me to step? It was just like, let's go do this. You need to get cleaned off. And I can't walk. I can't. I don't have any strength, you know. And I thought later, like, that takes a special skill to do that, to just go in, see a need. Because Jace is not thinking that way, you know. And even sometimes our closest relatives, moms are not thinking that way. And you're like, let's just do this. And you're right, I was so much better after being cleaned and fresh.

But you just jump in there and do things like that. And I think that that's wonderful. Thank you. It's been a long time ago. We'll never forget it. That's so crazy because that just brought back the memory for me too. After John Luke was born, you helped me into my first shower. I remember.

No, is this happening? There's a theme here. That didn't happen with me. I would feel really comfortable. It's fine. You would be fine. I did it with my kids too. I remember that?

We were like us laughing because I looked at all to my body and was like, this is not, I feel like my body. It's just like that feeling after you have a baby where you're like, wait, this is. Because of that and because you did that, I was able to do that for Kay recently in the last couple of years because no one was doing that around her. I was like, let's just do this, Kay. And I'm like, I told her, I said, I don't care. You don't have to be embarrassed with me. You just need to get clean and I can do it. I can do it for you.

That's right. But it helped me realize. I shouldn't be embarrassed. This person needs this. And I'm going to step out of my comfort zone a little bit and help this person physically. And that's what love is. Yes, that's right. Love just does.

It doesn't, you don't have to have a reason why, you know. It's just you see it and it's, I'm going to do it because I love this person and they need it done. Yeah. So since you talked about Ms. Kay, let's go ahead. And that was one of the questions I was asked. It was like, what did Ms. Kaye? teach you about marriage within as by example or something that you remember that she said to you or whatever. So how has Ms. Kay impacted each of each of your marriages?

Wow. Whoever wants to go first? Jessica, you want to go first? So early on, I realized Kay was on my team. She was somebody that I could go to. Most people were like, oh, don't go to your in-laws about if you have marriage trouble, right? She was one of the first ones. Besides Alan Lisa, that she was one of the first people I called and said, this Jep's acting like a turd. This is what he did. Same. And she backed me every time. She stood up for me. She was in my corner. And it was just such a comfort because I've always said, I was like, I have a special bond.

I encourage my daughters that are married and I want them to have that relationship because it is a gift. Like I have a close relationship with Kay, and she's honestly one of my best friends. She's one I call over anything. And so that was one thing as far as just marriage, that she was always in my corner and I could go to her. And then also the flip side is just seeing her relationship with him with Phil, just how they would still tickle each other and pitch each other on the butt and kiss each other in front of us.

And that was something we wanted to obviously have in our marriage. We want not just to have stay married, right? We wanted a good marriage. And it takes work, a lot of work and being intentional. And that's something that Jeff and I, you know, I feel like we took after them. We still tickle and cuddle in front of our kids. And they know we love each other passionately. Yeah.

That's so good. It's so important. I've heard people say that about that's such a gift you can give your kids for them to see that their mom and dad actually love each other. So good. I love it. And, you know, Kay did that. I think, you know, she was just that way because she said, look, she told me, you know, whenever we were first married, she was like, I'm married to her Robertson. So I know what you're going through.

Yeah. So you can always call me. And I think that's why she was always in all of our corners whenever we would call is because she's like, hey, I know. I'm married to one myself. I mean, let's be honest. Look at Phil and look at all of his siblings. They are extremely different. Yeah, exactly.

I mean, they are eccentric in so many different ways. You know, I don't know another family like that. which, you know, lightning in a bottle, hello. Right. But that passes down through the generations, you know, and to hear the cousins talk about their parents, you know, and then Philling Kay, that's a gift to me. Yeah.

Because so many of the cousins are some of my favorite people on this planet. They're amazing. And Phel and Kay were a catalyst for even all of their families as well, being able to forgive Phil, what Kay did. but with restrictions. Like, I forgive you, but you're not moving back in until you fix things with yourself. You know, I'm not going to, you know, put my boys at risk because of your choices. And so.

But I think she earned that respect because that whole family said, okay, you need to leave him. You need to get away from him. He's never going to change. And she didn't. She stuck with him. So she earned their respect by staying, you know. And so then her and Phil were able to be that example to the rest of them. And so I think that's why, you know, that so many of them look to Kay and Phil as being maybe not their parents, but, you know, just as close as their parents to them.

That's so true. I was thinking about, as you were talking about them, flirting with one another, I remember when I first started, like, you know, being around the family and going to their house. They had like a sign on their bedroom door that was something about like honeymooning in process or something like that. And I remember being like, they've been married for like, I don't know, at that point, 30 something years

and they were still honeymooning. And so they really did put a priority on that and just made it fun. And I also was thinking about one of the things I think Kay was always really good at is valuing what Phil was good at rather than looking at the things he was not good at. You know, like there were,

You could, I think you can do that with your spouse. And I've, I've, remember when I kind of came to that epiphany, like, I can look at all the things like, well, he doesn't do and be like, oh, those are things I want. Or I could look at the things he does really well and be like, oh, really value that. And I think Kay taught me that. She was so good at that. Like, she loved that Phil was a good hunter and a good provider and that he, all those things that made. He was a pioneer man. He was a pioneer man.

That's right. And rather than look at the things that he. he wasn't or didn't do. She looked at the things that he did well, and she loved that. And the things that he didn't, like, he wasn't, he wasn't the guy that went on the beach vacation and laid on the beach with her. He didn't do that. But we're all very grateful for that.

Exactly. And she was happy about that. She was, too. She was like, great. Don't go on our beach vacation. I'll just enjoy it with my kids and love that, rather than trying to make him fit into a mold. That wasn't him.

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But with every couple is its own dynamic, you know. And so that's one of the things we have to do is we have to figure out what is that dynamic between us. Yeah. Because not every man, like Phil, not every man is going to be the kind that writes you love letters, you know. And, you know, Phil told her one time, he said, I told you I loved you when I married you. And if it changes, I'll let you know. I mean, now, he needed to be a little more. And he did.

Over the years, he did. You know, but I think it's important whenever we go into marriage to figure out those things because expectations are one of the things that can kill a relationship, you know, and kill a love that's in a relationship because, oh, well, my dad did this, so you're supposed to do this. It's different in everyone. You just got to come up with what that is. but you have to ask the question you have to have communication and you know if you talk about it then you know you can get to the bottom of what you're good at and what he's good at yeah and

I just think that's that's one of the things we've got to do early in a marriage yeah or you know if you didn't do it early and you're having problems start there yeah yeah it might be expectation that's right yeah um one of my favorite filling Kay stories is whenever Kay said to feel like do you love me and he said, yeah, and she said, we'll write it down. And then he wrote it down. Kay, I love you. And he wrote her that note, and she pinned it up. And I just thought, I think it's sweet on a lot of levels.

And one in that she knew she needed something. And so she asked for it. She was like, she didn't just, like, brood in. He never writes it down. He never writes me a letter. She said, write it for me. And she taped it to the headboard of the bed, you know. So she asked for what she needed.

And I think that's important. as like wives and husbands both like ask her what you need don't just sit there and brood about it you know i've learned from her to keep all those little notes too because she has them you know like over her windowsill and on the refrigerator and everywhere she's moving she they're taking you know packing them all up taking them because those are important and yeah they are um when feel when feel crossed over uh and everyone started coming into town and our houses started filling up with people and Mia, Mia and Karina, kind of their deal when we all get together is washing the dishes. I'll cook or whatever.

They wash the dishes and they have their little time together. But the very first night after he died and people started coming in, we had our first meal at the house. And I looked over my kitchen sink and there was a note from Mia penned, just a sticky note. Mom, I want you to be a mom this week and let me do the dishes every night. just be a mom and a grandma. I was like, oh, my goodness. You know, because she knows that here we are all these people. I don't want to cook every night.

We're all having to deal with all the arrangements and then just the people. And it's a lot. It is. Funeral week is a lot. And I didn't realize that because that's the closest person who's ever passed in my family, you know, crossed over. I'd like saying. Yeah, yeah. But I'm not thinking about the next meeting.

until everyone's starting to look around for something to eat. It's like, oh, my goodness. But, you know, another part of that was, you know, the church really wanted to just come in and bring us all this stuff. Yes. And we had to tell them no, because the Robertsons don't eat. Yeah.

Other people's food. So it was really tough, and it was really hard to let people know, you know, No, we're good. We all cook. We're all great. You know, we're ready for this. We can handle this.

We let us bring us food. That's right. And they know who they are. And they did do that. People are serving. But just those little, I still have that note. Even though it kind of got wet a little bit. I was like, I got to say this because the older I get, the more I realize, those

little moments are really huge. And I want to remember them as long as I can. Yeah. That's right. Well, since you talked about expectations. there was a question that I thought was a really interesting one and a good one. And it said, did you ever not feel like you fit into the Robertson wife mold?

I thought that was a great way. Yeah, what is the Robertson wife mold. Thinking about that and like what I was talking about K valuing, what feel was good at. I'm so grateful that Willie values what I'm good at rather than tried to make me fit into a Robertson wife mold because that could have gone very wrong.

That's right. I'm going to look at it. Would we? Would we? Would we? Exactly. We're all like, uh-uh. They're all so different.

Yes. And, yeah, I wasn't K cooked three meals a day. And I always joke, my mom cooked three meals. Like, okay, cook three a day, mom cooked three meals. Like, she had three recipes that she made and it all involved like hamburger meat. But Kay cooked every meal and like I didn't grow up that way. I wasn't that person. I wasn't the one, you know, making my husband's tea and giving it to him and all that.

And had Willie expected that of me. me, it would have been very difficult and really hard. And so I definitely, and I do remember having that feeling at times where Phil would kind of like look at me on a job or feel that. Phil sometimes would have that look at you that really was like trying to like understand you. And I was like, okay, I get. I'm a little bit different than Kay, even though there's a lot of ways that we're the same

and all of our values were the same. But yeah. Is that before he nicknamed all of us? Yeah, within the nickname. Before he nicknamed. Exactly. Yes. I was burnt toast.

He would make fun of us, like, or what he would do is we gather on the kitchen island at their house, you know, for a meal. And he'd say, you'd whistle, you know, woo-hoo, I bet old Missy makes it just as good as this, you know. And I'm like, actually cook your recipe, you know. But he would never, could never admit that we could ever be as good at cooks. And that's fine. They had a big pride about that. That's right. But I loved their cooking so much.

I wanted to learn. what they cooked because it was amazing. And so I told Jace this and even on the Unashamed podcast, if Phil would have known then that he would be waiting for Missy to show up with his dinners the last few weeks of his life, he would have thought you were slap crazy. He was bragging on your cooking at the end of his life. Yes. I mean, I'm like, I want to have that conversation with him when we all get together again.

I'm like, how did you like those meals at the end there, Phil? I want to get him to admit it. It was an honor to do all of that. We were definitely the yuppie girls that he, you know, love to, like, rail against the yuppies. It was, like, kind of ironic that all his sons married yuppie girls. I feel like I was, I grew up a lot. Like, I grew up in a hunting family. I grew up.

My grandparents had a garden. They had raised hogs to, you know, slaughter. They, I mean, I feel like, and my aunts and my grandma, actually hunted. They would get their coveralls on and go hunting the deer stand. So I remember growing up and being little and waking up with my uncles and my dad and grandpa and having coffee with them, more milk and sugar than coffee. But I love that. So I feel like I grew up a little more like country. Like I grew up hunting and, you know, going out and riding four-wheelers at the, you know, hunting camp. And, you know, I guess seeing my aunt and my grandmother like fishing and doing all

those things. It made, I wanted to do those things. You know, it's like you grow up and you, you hopefully admire your grandmother and hopefully that's the grandmother I am as the kid, the grandkids are like, oh, I just loved all these great memories, you know, so I feel like I grew up a little more, less yuppie, you know, I feel like I had the best of both worlds. I still loved it cheerleading and fashion, but I loved also getting dirty, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I think just Missy and Corey were the yuppies. I grew up, I grew up in more than a lot. I don't like that And along with, you know, all of them. So, yeah, I wasn't yuppie.

People ask me now, you don't go hunting? Why don't you go hunting? I'm like, I don't have to. My husband does it for us. I don't have to do. Why would I? That's right. Well, I did always say I did grow up fishing with my grandpa all the time.

And he did teach me to skin a squirrel when I was very young. So I definitely. Maybe it's just me. I did have that part as well. But I guess I did grow up in a neighborhood. So that's my, yeah, that's what those feels definition of yuppie. It was like, if you grew up in a neighborhood, you're yuppie. I don't care.

We had chickens, we had hogs, we had a garden. Me and my dad went squirrel hunting together. We went fishing together. I mean, that was just, our vacations were to Toledo Bin so that my dad and my mom could fish. Yeah. And so he took us all out in the boat too and taught us how to do that. So I still love it now.

Now that we have a house in Gulf Shores, we're on the lagoon. And so I have a dock. And so when Corbin and Doc, my grandson, comes out, they always love to come and fish. And I love to go with them, you know, because I don't care if they're still in my bait. I'm still going to be out there just steady putting in a line and, you know, changing bait and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, I think maybe it was just Missy. That was the yuppie. I don't know.

I will wear the badge problem. Yeah, yeah. I don't really care. It's different, though, because you were, I mean, your grandparents lived in Texas. So it wasn't like you were just right there with them. You know, Corey was right with her grandparents. And, you know, Jessica got to spend a lot of time with hers and I did with mine. So yours was a little bit different.

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Shep actually just filled out a little back-to-school form about how, you know, things, his favorite things about summer and his favorite thing he did the summer and it said, fishing with K-Mama. I was like, that was so sweet, yes, I know. I was like, maybe very proud. So sweet. So, okay, well, I think let's just do like a little life update. Everyone just wants to know kind of like everybody is now.

Like I mentioned, we're all grandparents now. And Duck Dynasty ended in 2017, which is crazy. We're like eight years past that. And I know, you know, everyone keeps up with our life, you know, to some extent. But give us a little update on what's happened in your life right now. now. How many grandkids do you have? What's, like, what's keeping you busy right now? Who wants to go first? I'll go first. So I have, I have six that were born to my children, but my oldest granddaughter is married. So I say now that I have seven grandchildren. And my

granddaughter married Jersey Joe's son, Joey. If you follow Unashamed podcast, you know Jersey Joe. That's right. That's right. And so we also live in Gulf Shores part of the time. I sell real estate in Gulf Shores. And then we also travel. We speak around the country, you know, different. We do pro-life. We do marriage.

We do women's ministry. We do whatever. You know, if somebody calls and says, can you do this? We're like, yeah, we can do that. So fundraiser, it doesn't matter. Whatever it is, they ask, then we usually go and do it. But, you know, to me, the best part of that is whenever I come back home and come to West Monroe, I mean, my grandkids are so excited to see me, you know, and I love that that they're so enthusiastic, you know, about Mamma Pap. They call us, what time will you be home? You know, it's like, we're driving. So what time will you be home? Because they want to be at the house whenever we get there. And I love that.

I love every part of that. I told Carly, who is my one that's married, I told her a couple of months ago, I was like, Carly, you know, I could be a great grandmother by the time I'm 60, you know, because my birthday's not until January. I'll be 60 in January. And I said, I could be a great grandmother by the time I'm 60.

And she said, no, I'm sorry, ma'am. You can't. And I said, okay, no pressure. do it whenever you want to I said possibly in my 60s I could be a great grandmother she said possibly in your 60 she'll let you know

yeah that's great I love it but I mean but that's that's what we're doing we're still doing the same thing we're just going and sharing whatever you know God has

has put out there for us to share from experiences to you know children to marriage to whatever I feel like God rescued us And so our response to that rescue is to go out and proclaim, and he doesn't expect perfection out of us. He expects us to be prostrate before him.

You know, in my life right now, prostate and prostrate, I get those a little confused because we hear those words a lot. It's 60, you know, you're getting there where we're hearing prostate a lot. But he expects... If you're in your 20s, that's right. Just Google it. Yeah, just Google what that means. But, you know, and he expects that out of us,

but he also expects us to proclaim what he has healed us from and to proclaim his goodness and his glory. And so that's what we're going to do, you know, until he comes back and gets us. And then we all go to heaven and worship, you know, worship him together. That's so good. If you don't know Lisa and our story,

They have a book. What's the name of your book? A new season. A new season. And y'all have been on Sadie's podcast before and told your story. And we're going to get to talk again. I'm going to get to interview Al Lisa again soon. But yeah, go follow up and just learn more about Aal Lisa's story.

And y'all just do a great job. Such an incredible ministry. And I know you inspire and encourage so many with what you're doing. Love you. All right. Life updates. Oh, gosh. So much.

It is a lot. All of my kids. When I look at them, I am so impressed with, I'll even say with little man, okay, impressed with the way that they are reacting and living with the circumstances that they're living with. All of them are going through challenges, every single one of them. Coles is awesome. I can talk about his because he's about to get married. And he and his, he and his fiance just bought a house, their first house. And they've been scraping the ceilings of popcorn and painting them themselves.

themselves. And so they're going through just the normal, happy we're starting our life together this fall. And that's a challenge, but it's a great one. The other ones and all the other kids in my life have real struggles that they're going through, but they're calling us. And they're being transparent and they're saying, what would you do in this situation? How can you help me through this. And that goes back to now we're friends and mentors and they feel comfortable calling us. Brighton

and Reed, talk more than me and any of my kids. I mean, I'm sorry, Brighton and Jace. Righton and Jace are constantly texting each other because they're in Bible study every single day. And last night I even said, I haven't heard you and Brighton aren't talking today.

And he was like, oh yeah, we have. We've been texting. I was like, oh, that's great. You know, because she's just learning and growing in scripture and she wants to know what does Jace know about this and what can he share. And so this season, again, I don't want to put a downer on it because this is life. Life is struggles and it is drama and it is pressure from outside sources and resources. But it's how we respond to that and how we handle that through the Lord and his guidance and His Holy Spirit and other mentors in our life. So now we are able to be that with our family.

And I am honored. Yeah. And we grow so much spiritually through difficulty. Yes. And through challenges, you know. You know, you were talking about some of those people who you just look at and it's like, oh, it seems like, you know, at the end of the day, they're not going, oh, good Lord, I'm so tired.

Or tomorrow, I'm not done. I have all this to even think about all night tonight and in the morning and tomorrow and follow up. And I told Jessica, I was like, can we just have like a stress-free? And Jessica was leaning in. I was like, year? And she was like, oh, no. That's not possible. No, a week maybe.

But, you know, it's what vacations are for. That's right. You know, if we can get on one, you know. But the last place that we went all together as a family, the night before I was like, I don't want to go home. It's been so good being together with just our family and grandbabies. But you have to get back to life. You have to handle things around us.

And the Lord's kingdom is better for it. Yeah. Yeah. And there's people we've got to influence and help and be examples for it. Well, I think it is so easy. You want for your kids in a way you want them to have it all easy. You don't want them to go through the struggle. But then you also know that you're on your own life, like, okay, the struggle is what grows you.

But it's so hard when you watch your kids go through it because you just don't want that for them. Like I can say even with Mia, because she was. on this podcast recently, I know her personally, and I can see her change. And she would not be who she is without going through 16 surgeries and procedures and years of being bullied and just all of the bad things that she went through. Now, you talk about a light. I don't know, I don't remember all of that before because she's just so overwhelmingly glowing now with the Spirit of the Lord. It is not fake. It is real. He changed her life. Yeah. And it is amazing to watch that. And so if I would have paved her way easily or more easily, and even for my boys, and now for

Karina, no, you've got to let them make their own mistakes because it makes them better people. They have to go through it. Yeah. We did ourselves. Romans 5, 3 through 5. It talks about, you know, the struggles. We rejoice in our sufferings. And it seems. It's so crazy to the world to say those out loud, you know, because that gives us perseverance, character, and hope through the Holy Spirit. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.

So why would we want to rob our children of that? Right. Yeah. We can't. No. So good. If you haven't watched the podcast with Mia as another homework assignment, go back and watch that. You will be so blessed and so encouraged.

It's so good. Yeah. I texted Missy last week when I listened to it because I was just like, oh, it's so good. She did great. I loved it. So, all right, Jessica, life update. Well, I am a new grandma. So that has been probably the biggest life change.

I'll say the biggest. Wait a minute. The first biggest. Have you come up with a name yet? Jessica still cannot figure out a name. All right, everybody send Jessica some ideas of what she can be called. So Jeff likes Goldie. I like Marmee, which is from little women.

but I keep calling myself Grandma. And I'm like, everybody's like, you don't want to be called Grandma? That's so old. And I was like, I wear that with a badge of honor. Like, I am proud to be a grandma. Like, my grandma was my favorite person, you know? Yeah.

I would try to stay with her all the time and so I spent weekends and hunting seasons. And I was always wanting to be there with her. So I was like, what's so bad about being a grandma? And so I keep calling it. It's probably just going to be Grandma because I love it. I think it's great. I love it. You said too.

Yeah. So that's been that probably. the first biggest thing. So we also, we have two married kids. Our oldest has had our first grandbaby. And then, but we also have a nine-year-old still at home. And also River, who is homeschooling through high school. And so I have this huge range. So I have this friendships with my oldest two daughters that are both married and it is so different now and such a beautiful blessing, and we love being together, which is another blessing when your kids want to be around you.

And then we also have two more grandbabies coming, which is another blessing in a whirlwind that we've been through. The week we, Lily brought Winston home, is the week we found out that Priscilla's pregnant. So I won't cry. I'll try not think that. that was not something we expected. And obviously now we, through processing and through calling Lisa and be like, we need to talk to you about something. She probably thought, oh, God, what's going on their marriage? But it was really just like, we need some counseling on how to approach this

and with grace and mercy and love. And so I remember it was actually Super Bowl Sunday is when they called us in there and told us. And, you know, obviously you're shocked because she is our, at the time she was not 18 and her senior year, she was homeschooling, but so it's not something you necessarily want to plan for your child, right? Nobody wants their high school child to get pregnant, right? Yeah. But knowing that God showed us mercy and grace and any child, I mean, God creates all life.

So he created this child for a purpose. And obviously we're so excited to have a little girl coming in our lives in October. But that was a long process, a lot longer conversation than we would want to have right now. But Priscilla's doing great, and she knows she's so loved. We had her shower yesterday with y'all and just the outpouring of love and support that she's gotten. Not that there's no negativity, I just tend to erase those comments, whether it's on social media. And I've tried to teach my kids to do the same thing. You race and block people if they're going to be hateful or negative.

They don't know grace. They don't know you. They don't know. Yeah. That's right. So she's doing great and the pregnancy is going great. And she's going to be such a good mama. She starts college in the spring.

So we're so excited. Obviously, we've gotten through those stages of like shock, you know. And then what are the next steps here? Yeah. Every child is worth celebrating. That's right. Every child. We are so excited.

We cannot wait. and she's just going to be so beautiful. We've been pulling out pictures of Priscilla as a little baby, and I just can't wait to meet her. She's going to be great. And then, two months later, Merritt came to us out of the blue. Now, Merritt, this is my child. Merritt wanted to wait, she's 30 to have kids.

She was like, you might have one when I'm 30. I remember her. I remember her saying, like, no. She had her life all plans. Lily always wanted to have babies early. Merritt always was like, maybe. Yeah, like she had this whole plan. her and Tyler had a whole plan.

And I was like, well, apparently that wasn't God's plan. Yeah. So they came to us out of the blue. And I thought she was lying. I was like, you're lying. You know, this can't be. I'm like, y'all know how this works, right? In your family?

Okay. Yeah. We did have four. So truly they knew. But anyway, obviously, we were shocked. And they've had some adjustments to their future plans. But what a blessing. They're going to have a little girl.

So they're going to have three in less than one year, all in one calendar year. and Winston's now almost seven months. So I can't, no, like shocked. If you would have said, I'm going to have three grandbabies in one year. In a year. Yeah. I would have said, you're crazy. But I obviously were so, so grateful.

And God's plan is always the right plan. Yes. And I was telling your mom yesterday, I said, Jessica's going to need some help. She can't carry three kids. And Jessica said, watch me. Yeah. I'm going to have a strut on my back, on the front, on my hip.

See you. I know. I got practiced with Will and Bella because they were just 10 months apart, carrying two. And it's been helpful as now that I have grandbabies because they all want grandma to hold them. And you're like, you want to hold them. You're like, yes, I can hold both of them at the same time. I can hold three at once. You know, that's how you just want to. I now have to sit down on the couch to hold mine because they're just too big. I can't pick them up anymore. You're still like, can get on your lap. My youngest is eight, so I have to just, how about you come sit in my lap while we're sitting on the couch?

That's so sweet. Yeah, we got to have a big shower yesterday out at Longtown and celebrate, and it was so fun to get to celebrate Zola. It was beautiful, yeah. She's going to be the cutest little mama and just going to be great, and we're so excited. And cousins, little girl cousins, oh my gosh, is the cutest thing ever. So that's going to be so much fun. I'm excited, yes. I've already been like mapping out matching outfits for the girls. We've already been thinking about Halloween costumes in the future.

how cute that's all be together. It's all those little things. I was like stockings. I got to get all new stockings for them. And so it's been. Oh, the stocking thing is a real thing. I'm like adding stockings every year. I'm like, I actually just went and ordered some like blanks because I was like, I did that.

I did that and I've run out. Yeah, exactly. Our mantles are getting really full, which is such a blessing, the greatest blessing ever. Yes, it is. Well, thank you all so much. This was really fun to just get to. catch up and I always learn things from all of you and I hope that you guys have to hope you've been encouraged and inspired and I hope you just have a great week. Thanks for

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