WHOA That's Good Podcast - When Dolly Parton Asks to Sing a Duet With YOU! | Sadie Robertson Huff & Natalie Grant

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

Sadie and Natalie Grant have a lot of fun in this episode reflecting on seasons where certain songs were EVERYTHING, why songs always stay with us, how singing can help in your time with the Lord — and for memorizing Scripture — and much more. Natalie and her husband started singing their favorite songs during lockdowns and it started the process of what eventually become her album, "Seasons." One of the tracks on the album features a duet with none other than Dolly Parton and there's a very cool Whitney Houston connection — plus Natalie shares how Dolly was the one who requested the duet! And get an inside peek at how Natalie and Sadie both rally themselves to be on-stage even when they're feeling their absolute worst. Natalie's "Seasons" album is available now: https://bit.ly/49kfln3:  https://give.cru.org/first or text FIRST to 71326 — Get a free copy of Sadie and Christian's new book "How to Put Love First" with your gift! https://www.trymiracle.com/whoa — Get over 40% off + 3 FREE towels with code WHOA at checkout! https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D & 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase! https://www.nikonusa.com/podcastz8 — Capture all of life’s memorable moments with unbeatable clarity using Nikon’s Z8 mirrorless camera! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thank you for having me. I love you. Oh my here today. Thank you for having me. I love you. Oh my gosh, I love you. And we're just talking about how we just, we just were at the Joyce Meyer event. At the same time, we didn't get to see each other, but I was just telling Natalie,

she just crushed it. I mean, she, her voice is kind of struggling, but I said, you would have never known. It was just beautifully done, beautifully lead. It was awesome. Thank you. Yes. I do think sometimes we say those, I said to you, like, when we are weak, he is strong. It's so funny how like we can say things so impassing like because it kind of sound spiritually cute, but it's real. Yeah. When we are weak, he is actually strong. Oh, 100%. My, I, I, I preach this message a couple of years ago at Passion.

It's probably like my favorite message I've ever preached. And I actually had the flu and COVID whenever I preached it. I never felt more like physically sick and unable to do something. Yes. But more like filled with his spirit to actually get it across. And it's just so crazy to sing to me because I know how I felt that day. But I look at that video and I can't even tell

that I was sick. I'm like, what? That is truly the Holy Spirit. That's truly the Holy Spirit we filter. Whenever we're weakest strong. Yes, that's the best filter out there. Let me tell you. That's truly the Holy Spirit filter whenever we're key is strong. Yes, that's the best filter out there. Let me tell you, that's good. Well, Natalie, you have a new album out, Seasons, and oh my gosh, it's so good.

I was just sitting here listening to it before we popped on. It's so great, and I can't wait to talk about it. But before we talk about it, I actually do want to ask you about, you know, doing things like what you're doing right now. You're on the road, you're doing all these interviews, you're showing up and leading worship and you don't feel great. And one thing I want to ask you,

and I feel like we're about to mom, it's about to go mom mode for a second. But it's just hard work because the thing is, as I'm sitting here listening to seasons, I'm like, man, you've been through so many seasons of your life and you've continued to lead through all those seasons and we all know life as life and life happens and life gets hard,

but you've continued to show up, persevere, lead people to Jesus, lead people in worship. I mean, you do that on a practical level when it's hard, when you're sick and you have to get on stage, but also just the hard work of all the years to go through the seasons and continue to do it, you're doing. So can you speak a little bit into just the power of hard work? Because I do feel like that is a loss on this generation at times.

And I would love to just hear from you on that. Well, I think first, even when I hear you just talking back to me like the things I was taught from a really young age that obedience brings blessing. And when you choose to be obedient, it doesn't mean it's always going to feel good. In fact, oftentimes obedience doesn't feel good. In the moment, just ask our kids. Oftentimes, in the moment, nobody wants to be obedient, but obedience does bring blessing because when we do what God has asked us to do, then we know that somehow he makes it possible for us to do it and the investment is worth it. And we are kind of, I think, in that

microwave generation where everyone wants something quick, they want something immediate, they want immediate fame, they want immediate notoriety, they want immediate influence. But I've always found that if you want longevity, right, I've been doing this for 25 years now, just as a solo artist.

And when I think about the fact that I never wanted that overnight quick success, you do in the minute, in the moment you do, but when you realize, wait, I wanna be able to look back over decades and say, I stayed true to what God asked me to do. And it wasn't always easy, and it didn't always look as what I wanted it to look like, but I was obedient to what he asked me to do.

And I think that it is important to work hard, but it's important to work hard at what God's asking you to do. And that discernment is so important that you're not working at what you want to do and then asking God to bless it. But instead, you're working at what God is asking of you. And I think sometimes we get those really muddied, you know, it's like we kind of mix in our striving and our desire with what God is asking us to do.

And when you're just, when you get about the father's business and you say whatever it is that you're asking me to do, even when it's hard, even when it doesn't look pretty, I'm going to stay faithful to what God's called me to do. You will look back over decades and go, not only do I have longevity, but I see even better than that the faithfulness of God over all of that hard work. He was faithful. Like we're faithful, but even when we're faithless, he remains faithful.

And I think that I can really see that that is where the importance and hard work is doing what he's asking you to do. Yeah, whoof, that is so good. That's a whoo, that's good, right off the bat. I love that, I love that so much. And you're right. And whenever actually Joyce was talking about this at that conference, how, you know, you're grace to do the things for

the things that he's calling you to do, you know, and whenever you're walking and sometimes with him, and walking and obedience, there's a grace to do what you've been called to do. And I think that's where it's like, you know, even when you are sick, you know, okay, I don't just have to do this. I'm called to do this. I get to do this and I'm going to step in and I'm going to be grace to do it. I want to be anoint to do it. I'll be filled with a spirit to do it.

So it's not just like you're like, okay, I just got to work hard and I feel sick as a dog and I'm going to be able to stuff. There's an extra grace, an extra anointing, there's an extra thing There's a grace. And I love how Joyce said, she was talking about times in her life where she's got on the stage to preach a message. And maybe she's not, maybe she's having to argue with her husband behind the scenes or something going on. And she said, there is just nothing worse than preaching a sermon.

You weren't grace to preach. That you just don't know. Totally. It'll be a long 30 minutes or whatever it is. Now that will feel like true hard work. And so I love that. That's a great point just to recognize in your life. It's not just working hard for the sake of working hard.

It's working hard of being obedient to what God's put in your hands to steward and to work towards. And so that's great. Man, so we're talking about seasons of life and I love this whole concept of you Recording and reimagining these songs that have meant so much to you because I think about that in my life Like you hear a song yesterday We actually had an hour and a half drive with a friend. Is she had all these throwback songs on like Christian throwbacks and me and my husband We were just laughing talking about about different seasons we were in.

And then having really hard, good conversations about seasons we were in with different songs. And this is before I even really knew this was what we were going to be talking about. And I was like, man, that was such a good idea. So what made you go, I'm going to look back at these songs and I'm going to bring them back now. Yeah.

You know, I mean, it was birthed out of the concept anyway during 2020, right, when we were all locked in our houses. My husband, my husband, Bernie and I started doing a song a day keeps the crazies away from our living room. And we just would record one little song and we would, you know, post it on our socials. And the, what I found was happening is I wasn't like going back and just singing my songs. I was actually going back to songs that were my foundation or songs where I was like, oh, I remember when I was in high school and I was going through a heartbreak, this was

the song that carried me through. Or, oh, I remember when my grandfather was preaching, he would, like all of a sudden, I found myself going back to something I knew was certain. Right? Like those songs that had stood the test of time and that were like foundational. And so this record, I kind of was like,

hey, I always say Jesus has been with me my whole life, but so has Jesus' music. Okay. And I think that Dick Clark actually originally said that music is the soundtrack of our lives. Like we could all point to songs that are like the soundtrack of our life, but for me, that was Jesus' music is a soundtrack of my life.

And I can think back to certain songs I picked and it has a nostalgia point where I'm like, oh, my tribute from Andre Crouch, like I remember listening to that on vinyl and my parents living room and my mom was singing it in the kitchen while she was making dinner. Or I remember this song when I was in high school. I remember this song when I was in college,

or I remember this song when I was in college, or I remember this song, you know, when I was on vacation with my girls. And like, so there's so many songs from different seasons, but I think it's, we always talk about how God is doing a new thing, right? Look forward, God is doing a new thing, is doing a new thing. But sometimes in order to go forward, it really just, we need to take a moment and take a look back and actually see the faithfulness of God. There's that scripture in Psalm 77 that says, I recall and I recount your goodness. I recall and I recount when you've shown up for me in the midnight hour and these songs kind of were that like I recall the goodness of God in that song or I remember how we showed it for me through that song.

And getting to do it with so many of my friends just kind of was the cherry on top. [♪ music playing in background, music playing in background, all the holidays are right around the corner and I am so excited. I love this time of the year. It's one of my favorites for the holidays, but I'm very cold nature. So I always get freezing and you all this time of year, although it's so special,

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a direction for like how to even move forward because you know, like, okay, he got me through that. He's with me in this. Um, actually had a moment recently where it kind of like totally stumped me. I was about to go on stage to preach, but the song they sang right before I went up took me so back to like this moment that I got so like, I was like, man,

I don't even know what I'm gonna say when I go up there because it would feel so unauthentic to not speak into what God just did in my life. You know, like it was, it was just an old hymn and it just took me back to before I, you know, was doing anything that I'm doing now and it just took me back to before I was doing anything that I'm doing now. And it was more in a time that I was doubting that I could do what I'm actually doing

now and thinking about how could I, how could I, and it took my eyes off myself and really allowed me to see God. And that was kind of one of those songs that just helped me get the courage to step in and trust God. And then here I am, right before I'm about to speak, like 10 years after, you know, this moment, years and years ago and I'm like, wow, that song is what even helped me get to this moment right now.

Like, it was like those words. So it was just really cool. So I totally understand what you're saying. We're used to prize going back to some of those songs with maybe just going back to how you felt then, based off how you feel now about those certain situations, because sometimes I feel like I hear a song, and I'm like, I used to cry to this song,

and now I smile, because I'm like, that's crazy. I was so in it, like I really, that, every word of that just got me in now, and I'm kind of laughing at myself. But it, we're used to prides at some of the ways that it made you feel back then, based off how you feel now overcoming those things? Definitely. And it's really funny because there's this one song called In Christ Alone. And I remember because I was a freshman at college.

And I was so lost as far as what I felt like my purpose was to do. I was in a really terrible relationship and that I had no business being in. And I thought I was supposed to go into ministry, but I didn't know what that looked like. And I just, I felt stuck. And I just remember the first time I heard those words, it was like, this is what I actually want my life to look like. Like this is what I want to be the hallmark of my life. And though I still have so far to go,

I feel like listening to that, I actually saw in a moment like, wait, you committed your ways to the Lord. Like you, you made a decision and you got out of the bad relationship even though it seemed in the moment like it would be the hardest thing you've ever done in your life. And you said notice certain things that seemed like sure things. And you said, yes, to the God things that didn't have like a blueprint all lined out. And now 25 years later, you can look back and say, it was worth it. Like in Christ alone, will I glory in Christ alone? Do I put my trust in Christ alone?

Like that is our source of strength and my source of hope. And I feel like that song in particular was that for me, like, wait, I was so lost when I fell in love with this song. And now I think like my twin daughters are juniors in high school. And you know, there's certain songs that get put on a shelf. And you're like, that shouldn't be on a shelf. Yeah. That shouldn't be on like a whole new generation actually needs to fall in love with the idea that in like our source of everything is only found in Christ alone. Yeah. And I was thinking about my daughters like okay they're about to get to

that same stage of what do I do? Where do I go? What's God say? And where's He moving? Like and they feel a little bit like pressure coming on. And honestly, I was like, this song now is for your generation. It doesn't just need to be a once in a generation. It's for every generation. Yes, that's great. Man, that's so good. You know, it's cool because I had a girl texted me recently. She was going through something pretty tough, and she knew I had gone through something similar. And she was asking me kind of my advice how to get through it. And it was one of those things where it was hard to think of the words to encourage her with, but I was thinking about the song, do you know the song Defender, Rita Springer,

sings it so, so. Yes. I was like, you know, I don't know that I have all the best advice to give you besides we'd have to go to coffee and actually talk about it. You have to come out to my house. But I said, in the meantime, before we get to fully talk, I was like, just go listen to this song because the truth in this song is really what helped me get out of where I was, the place I was stuck in.

And it was in a time where I was feeling really misunderstood by people and just felt like reputation How do you all this different stuff and past things and I just said like what I spoke over myself and sang over myself We're just the words of this on that he's my defender, you know, and it was just really cool because you know I didn't really have to to say my Advice necessarily because I didn't really feel like I still had the words for it But I could tell her what got me out of it and it was this idea. This is who God is and this is what I just kept singing over myself.

This is what I truly believed was the truth. And so I love it. Yeah, that's not just for that generation. Just for that time. It's like giving those songs that minister to you to people. And when you sing a song like that, you're actually singing scripture over yourself, right? Because that idea is actually rooted in the word of God. And I think that's, you know, for this generation too, like with my girls, we're not like strict and say you can only listen to Christian music, right? I had that. My parents were like, you only listen to Christian music. But we're not like that. Because we love, we love all kinds of music, you know. But what are you actually letting your soul feed on? You know, like what are you feasting on regularly? And I think that

there's sometimes this disconnect between what this generation is, to sort of think twice about what they're allowing to come into their ears and into their soul. And you can memorize a song so quickly, right? You don't even realize that, but you're saying the words, you're singing the words. And it's not like you should never listen to whatever the music is that you love,

but if you actually have a steady diet of worship music, a steady diet of Christian and gospel music, those songs are rooted in the word of God. And when you're singing songs like Defender or you're singing how great is our God even, you know, you go old school with a worship chorus and you don't know what else to do and you don't know advice in the moment. You can sing these truths over your life and when you allow your soul to become saturated in that kind of music, it does something praise and worship. It's amazing to me how praise and worship has nothing to do with us.

Yet our God is so kind that he allows us to benefit from it. That when we choose to worship him through song, we choose to worship him through singing or we listen to this music that magnifies him yet somehow he allows our own soul to be fed by it, to be encouraged by it, to be uplifted by it. Like that's the goodness and kindness of our God that it has everything to do with him yet. He goes, I'm going to let it be a gift to you. Well, that's so cool. That's so powerful. I love that. And I love that you're saying, yes, it's singing scripture over yourself because I remember, you know, in high school, into a Christian school, and it was like, we had to memorize Bible verses and on Friday,

you had to make sure that you knew your Bible verse. And I was always so bad at that. And I hate that. I was like, I wanna be, this is something I really wanna be. Good at. I'm just gonna get this. Good at that. And so I remember kind of hit me. I mean, now it's so crazy because I was even saying

recently I saw Chris preaching and I said, man, I wanna know the word like that. Or you can just go scripture, scripture, scripture. And one of my friends said, say, you do know the word like, like, you do that. You know, and it just was a cool thing because I was like, you know, I actually do talk like that. But in high school, I couldn't memorize my verse

so that we, for the life of me, and now I do. And I think one thing I think that has helped me in that is, like you said, like a lot of the songs I listened to are literally scriptures, you know? I think that has helped me in that is like you said like a lot of the songs I listen to are literally scriptures, you know, and so for me it's a lot easier to remember something that I'm singing than I'm reading, you know, I'm more of a, I'm not, I am a visual learner but I'm also like I remember things by hearing it, I remember things by imitating people, I remember, yeah, super audible learner and so I think singing those words over

yourself you like start singing scripture over yourself start finding songs actually are based in scripture and then all of a sudden you you will know scripture is in you you know so for those people who are out there who are like I cannot remember the verse for the life of me start singing it over yourself and just keep it also keep putting it in keep reading just keep putting it in. Keep breathing it. Keep putting it in because you know what I've found is if I have to like memorize one verse and then tell it to you tomorrow that might be a struggle for me. But as I just read the word it's like you asked me what the story is about.

I can tell you what the story is about because I'm getting it in and me. You know and that's what it's all about just you know relating to God and those things and you know. And there's like something like so, just a tangible, I don't even know if I said this last time, I was on the podcast, but something that's really important for me is I read the word of God out loud. And it feels strange in the moment, right?

Especially if you're just sitting there and you're just reading it out loud. But for me, I'm an audible learner too, and there's just something about're just reading it out loud. But for me, I'm an audible learner too. And there's just something about not just reading it, but saying it and hearing the word back. I think first of all, it just does something for our own souls to hear the word of God. But it also puts the enemy on notice.

When you're not busy speaking, all these are the things, speaking about your problems, speaking about your insecurities, speaking about your struggles, but instead, you're like, I'm just gonna speak the word of God. And it actually puts the end of you on notice. But then I think something just recently, because I am just like you, I struggle to memorize.

I've started putting it into a voice memo. So I'll record myself, so it's my own voice. I record myself, saying a scripture, and then I play my voice memo back record myself. So it's my own voice. I record myself saying a scripture and then I play my voice memo back to myself. So when I'm in my car, it's not just an audio Bible because sometimes when it's like a long thing, then I'm like listening, but all of a sudden I don't even remember what it is

that it's like, it's just in the background. Yeah. But when I hear my own self like reading the word of God back, I memorize it easier just like a song. So it's just a little tangible thing. Y'all, I am working on the habits lately. I'm trying to get a better routine in the morning, trying to get some good habits going. The huff fan makes it a point to keep up with good healthy habits. And that is one reason why we love AG1 as a family.

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I literally do that when you were talking. I was like, yes, I do this because I feel sad. Yes, because it's so funny because people say to me, you know, I can't believe you go up on stage and preach messages without notes. And I'm like, notes would mess me up. That is more confusing to me if I look down and see a bunch of words, because I just can't read like that that fast. But what I do is what I'm preparing my message.

I am visualizing myself saying it, and I'm writing down kind of what I do is when I'm preparing my message, I, um, visual, I envision myself saying it and I'm writing down what I visualized myself saying. And then I preach it out loud to myself on audio and I listen back to it so that it gets in me. And so that's so crazy. I love that. I love that. Everyone's brains are different. You gotta do it. And the cool thing is when talking about scripture like God when you talk about scripture, like God created you, you know, he created you and he created you

for relationship with him. And so, you know, your quiet time might not look like opening and reading quietly. It might look like opening and reading loudly, you know, and recording yourself saying it or listening to people singing and over your scene yourself. So, I love that, that's so good. You mentioned getting to do this album

with heroes of yours and friends of yours. And I just think that's so cool. I wrote down in the step-by-step song, I think you said somewhere that during that season of your life, when you look back at listening to that song, you were working a job that you didn't really want to be working while you were kind of wanting to be doing more of what you're doing now.

Can you speak into that a little bit because that's super relatable and you get to sing with Dolly Parton, which is awesome. Yeah, it's so funny because I actually, I can remember so almost tangibly like the smell of my old car and having to get up at 7 a.m. and drive to this job at Medicare. I was doing accounts payable and I had just moved a Nashville and I think in my mind, you know, like when we have a dream and we want to do it and we actually take steps towards doing it, we kind of are like, okay, I'm doing it. Like I'm taking the steps, I'm doing the thing, like it's gonna happen.

And then all of a sudden you're like, wait, I have to pay my rent. Yeah. Like I think sometimes we like think, like, well wait a second, I'm just gonna like, I'm gonna just do this and it's gonna work out. It's gonna be great. And then you're like, why do I have no money

on my bank account? That's so real. It's so real. Oh yeah, I have no money on my bank account? That's so real. It's so real. Oh, yeah, I have to actually work a job and I have to maybe go do something in the interim, like that in between, right? In the waiting, I think that is like where God,

our moments with God can be the sweetest when you're like in that in between from where you were and where you're going, but that in between from where you were and where you're going. But that moment of the journey of getting to where you're going. So I would drive to my job every day. I literally despised this job with everything that is in me. But the preacher's wife had just come out that movie and Whitney Houston was like everything. And she sang this song on their called Step by Step. And I just remember driving down I-65 in Nashville

and she would get to the end of the song. It would be, come on baby, got to keep moving. Come on baby, I would just sing it every day, 7am. That was my song and I would listen to it constantly. And so when it came time to like do this record and I was thinking about different songs from different seasons, that one was like, I have to do that song. I mean, like I literally step by step have kept moving.

Like it to me, it was such a testimony to my life. And then Sadie is the craziest thing because I had sung at Dollywood earlier this year. And I had no idea that Dolly was going to be there on the day that I was singing at Dollywood and so she had heard management had like sent an email or something that said, hey Dolly's going to be at Dollywood when Natalie's doing her concert and she said if it wouldn't trouble her too greatly could they sing a song together and I just remember going, Dolly your name is on the park. You can trouble me.

You can do that. This on the park. Like, you can trouble me. Like, you can do that. This is your park. It's Dollywood. And so we sang together and I remember going, okay, that was the sum total of it. Like, this was a life moment, bucketless moment, awesome, cool, great.

But I had no idea that my manager had actually given that song to her team. And I didn't know that he did it. Like I had kind of known up to that point everybody that I wanted to ask to sing on all these different songs. But this one I just couldn't come up. I was like, I don't know who I want to do this with. I didn't know to dream Dolly.

I mean, that was like beyond what I kind of thought. And so then, so when I got the email back that said, Oh, Dolly is so sorry. She's busy. I didn't even know to be disappointed because I didn't know that he asked. And then it was like three weeks later, I get an email and it is a letter from Dali on Dali letterhead. It's got this hot pink dolly at the top as you would expect it to have. Well, she's like, the song just keeps ringing and calling me back. And I hope it's not too late for me.

Could I sing the song with you? I really want to do this song. I'm like, what is life? What? What is even happening right now? And then I'm like, but God is so in the little details because just like think about the fact that Whitney Houston made, I will always love you, by Dolly Parton, Houston made, I will always love you by

Dolly Parton, but like, I will always love you. You know what I mean? Like it became this massive, massive thing and Dolly had never sung a Whitney Houston song. And now it just happened to be a Whitney Houston song and Dolly, like, it's such a full circle, incredible moment. Wow. a full circle incredible moment. But to me, it was just like also that God saw that girl back in 1997 driving in her beat up Volkswagen Golf to her job she hated, but she did it because

she just knew that she was in the in between. Like I feel like God goes, just hold on. Like I've got something for you that you can't, you're not even dreaming because it seems so like beyond, but God does say I will do exceedingly, abundantly beyond what you could ever ask, think, or imagine. I kind of feel like that song is like living proof of that. Wow, that is so cool. That is the coolest story ever, and how cool to get like a letter that you can actually have in hold in like frame. No, I was going to say like, and actually, yeah, you should frame them. And maybe put it by the front door, I don't know, I mean, just about like that.

Exactly. I don't know, just like, hi, welcome. Also, I have a letter from Dollar Party. That's so cool, I love it so much. But like, I mean, everything you say, which is, first of all, an incredible God story, and absolutely seeing His hand in all of it, but also just like, yeah, sometimes you're just in the in-between and I love how you started that by saying like, look, I moved there, I was like being obedient to it, I was put myself out there and sometimes you think, you're like, oh god,

like I did it, like I did the hard thing, but it makes me think about, I've been talking a lot about the Israelites whenever they were leaving Egypt and they were heading to the Promised Land. But obviously there was like a lot of time in between the process to get there. That was so hard for them. Yes. As soon as they first left the Promised Land, they get to this, I mean, sorry, Egypt, as soon as they first left Egypt, they get to this place, it's right before the sea

splits and they're sitting there and it looks like they're stuck because all of a sudden there's a sea in front of them, there's 600 chariots coming up behind them. And I kinda think about, you know, what they had to be thinking, they're like, God, I was ready to move. Like, I moved, I did it, I did the hard thing, I got out of Egypt, I'm doing the thing right here.

Yes, yes. In between a rock and a hard place, I'm. Yes, during the scene, I'm looking at 600 chariots behind me and sometimes you feel like that, it's like, I did staring at a scene and I'm looking at 600 streets behind me. And sometimes you feel like that. It's like, I did it. I like, I stepped out. I do what you ask me to do.

I'm doing the hard thing already. And then you get to the next place and it still is a hard thing. But there's a process to get to the promised land. You just don't wake up one day and get a letter from Dolly, you know? And he's like, I'm gonna sing with you. You just don't wake up and the land of the milk and honey.

But thank you. I just don't wake up and the land of the milk and honey. But thank God you don't, because the whole process to getting there is when you and your relationship with God really forms, you start to realize, like before you get to the promised lamb, that he is the promise. And as you have been journeying on your life and all the seasons and now you are so many people's hero

if someone got a letter from Natalie Grant, they'd feel the same way. If someone got to sing with you would be there. Oh my gosh this is crazy. Frame it, put it in the front of the house thing. But like and the process of getting there, your relationship with God is the most important thing to you and that is what you're leading other people to experience too. And so that's such good encouragement to people who are listening because there's so many people primarily those podcasts is reaching people in their 20s and 30s. And that is one of those being, you know, the times in your life where you might feel a little stuck or you might feel like you're doing something.

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nearness of God. Right? Like you get to experience who he is in the process of because you're so dependent and you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait. But I left that and I thought I was going here. And that's where you promised me I was going. Like you promised me. And I think that God, when it says that he is near to the broken hearted or near to those or crushed in spirit or like you get to actually experience that nearness of God in that process. Don't rush the process. What he's developing in you, you can't shortcut that.

Because honestly, if you shortcut it, it's actually going to show up. It's going to show up. When you take a shortcut, it's going to show up. And like I even think about the process in the Old Testament, right, when they were rebuilding the temple. And there's this one part of the scripture where they, they, God told them what to do. And they got busy doing their own thing, right?

They, it says they were building their own thing right there. It says they were building their own houses, their own thing, they were building their own thing. And then all of a sudden, God was like, but wait, I told you what to do. And they had to climb up the mountain to get the materials. And then it says, now come back down the mountain and get to work.

And that always says to me, like, okay, we wanna climb and get to the mountain experience. We want to get there. But then we want to stay. Wow. We want to just stay where it's comfortable and stay where it's, but honestly, like God says, no, like I'm going to take you to that place, but I also need you to come back down off your high horse and get to work.

Let's get. Come all back down the mountain and get to work. And and when you're willing to do that and not shortcut the process, then all of a sudden when you do get to where it is that God is taking you, who he is will show up in your life. The beauty of who he is, the beauty of what he's done will show up in your life in a way that it wouldn't, you wouldn't reflect that goodness of God when you shortcut it then it's shallow and you don't want shallow I'm telling you you don't

you don't want shallow you want the deepness of God. Yes that is so good. I love it. He said that and truly like finding shortcuts or even trying to do it the fast way, sometimes it really will set you back, actually. We actually have, we have advice for our team at L.O. and it's like advice we've learned the hard way, and it was doing things the fast way normally makes you go, normally sets you back further. And we always use the example of Christian and I, we're heading to the airport one day,

we are in a rush for this flight. I mean, we were cutting it way too close, definitely should have left earlier, but nonetheless, we are in a rush for this flight. I mean, we were cutting it way too close. Definitely should have left earlier. But nonetheless, we're trying to get there and we're flying. And then all of a sudden, you know, out of our rush and out of trying to be fast, we pass the exit. Well, then it really set us back. Now we're even later than we would have been

if we would have just slowed down and paid attention. It's just a great lesson for our life, you know. Trying to do it the fastest way can actually set you back further, then slowing down a bit and going to the paste god set for you. So true. Slay the holidays with Real Canadian Superstores PC

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special. And now as a mom, I'm sure, you know, doing stuff with Dolly was amazing and doing stuff with all of your heroes and friends was so incredible, but there's just nothing like getting to do it with your daughters and your grandma. And so speaking to Jess, you know, you do those things with your husband, you're doing these things with your kids and your grandma. What is it meant to you to get to do things with your family and just the importance of that?

Well, I think it's one of the things that helps to keep the main thing, the main thing. Because when you're just chasing your own thing, it's so easy to be so focused on what you're doing. But if he's called you to it, he's called your family to it. And I even, like, I mean, my girls have been touring with me since they were babies, but they don't always get to come anymore. But I still include them like, you know, they'd be like, mom, you know,

I've kind of taught them, asked the question about how did it go last night? How many people met Jesus? Like what was the atmosphere like? And so they're involved in every aspect and keeping that involvement makes it not my calling or my job or my thing, but it's our calling. It's our job, it's our thing. And I think, you know, for me, I never wanted to just have a career. My family is my priority and that's really you

would understand this especially as a newer mom but you know the grind you get it. You know the grind of feeling like you're sometimes even I don't know if you ever feel like this that you feel like you're on the outside of your life sometimes looking at your life just going and going and going and going and you're like, why do I feel so out of control about what's happening in my life? It's like, oh, we are. It just goes and goes and goes and goes and goes. And I think by keeping my family involved in all of the details, it helps me to keep my eye on what my actual first ministry is. And that is to my husband, even before my kids,

because I think even then once you have kids, it's really easy for a marriage to take a back seat. You have to actually be so intentional that way. My first ministry is to my husband and then to my kids. And then everything else I get to do that God allows me to do is incredible, but it can't be at the expense of my family. So when I, you know, every little chance I get

having them involved helps for me to keep the main thing, the main thing. That's great, that's so good. Well, it's super encouraging to me in the season I've been right now, because I definitely feel that way. Sometimes I look at the calendar and I'm like, oh wow, how'd that happen?

You know? But yeah, so I bring in the kids involved with everything and I'm teaching honey, you know, what I'm doing right now. And she's just now able to talk and I'm teaching her what I'm doing. We've started working on scriptures and all this stuff and I told her when I left for joystasy

because typically I bring her with me and I couldn't that day. And I said, you know, honey, I'm gonna go preach about Jesus to a lot of people and tell them about how awesome he is, all this stuff. And it was so funny. So I get in the bus, I'm about to come back and I face some honey to tell her good night.

And she said, okay, good night. Are you going to see Jesus? I was like, that kind of sounds like I'm gonna die. I was like, no, I'm with Jesus. And I was like, in so are you. And we're always with Jesus. Let's bring this back. So it's good. So I'm teaching honey.

I'm teaching honey, you know what I'm doing. It's good. It's just good. It's good. It's been good. That's so good. Yes. Thank you for coming on the bike guys again. Thank you for all that you do and letting all of us learn

from you and get to worship alongside of you and man you're an awesome leader, mom, friend, all the things. So thank you so much for taking the time and doing this. Love you. Thank you for having me honored. Oh yeah!