WHOA That's Good Podcast - When You Get the Ick About Your Spouse, Embarrassing Moments & Support During Tough Times | Sadie, Christian, Bella & Jacob

Episode Date: March 31, 2025

Sadie and Christian are joined by Bella and her husband, Jacob, to talk about the early years of marriage. The two couples cover a lot in this fun episode: when they get the ick about something their spouse does, things they wish they had known before they were married, praying for their spouse, how they like to bring each other joy, and how each has learned to best support the other when going through hard times. This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored By: https://thechosenlastsupper.com — Get your tickets for the 3-part theatrical release of The Chosen: Last Supper now! https://gominno.com — Get your first month FREE when you use code WHOA at sign up. Take advantage of this web-only exclusive offer today! https://fastgrowingtrees.com/whoa — Get 15% off your first purchase with code WHOA at checkout! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? I hope everybody's having a great Monday. All the sisters and brothers out there. Today we have some very fun conversation topics that we're going to dive into. First of all, I have the most fun people on the podcast. I have my husband, Christian. Is it audio? What's up? Pop it up, boys. Woo, from the live audience. And we have Bella and Jacob. Hello.

And everyone's favorite. Hello, people. Hello, people. Hello, people. And we are gonna be talking about the first five years of marriage, newly married, all the different stuff. And we actually asked you guys what kind of questions

you wanted us to answer. And we have a lot of your all those questions actually right here in your accounts, but we won't name that. And then just some other fun questions too. But one of the things that we have to start with because this has just been a fun question within our community lately is what is the ick of your spouse?

You want to go? The ick? Well the ick can be subjective I would say. Depends on who you are but hmm. The ick? An ick is so personal to you though. I got mine. No I got mine. Yeah so it's subjective. I'm scared what Ick is gonna say. Nah, I'm gonna save the terrible Ick's. This is a personal thing. But the number one Ick, I'm not gonna be chappin' you out here to the public. That's savage.

But no, number one Ick is Bella doesn't believe in the ceiling fan. Like she doesn't believe that like when you're in your room and you go to sleep to turn it on. And that might be the craziest thing I've ever heard. Sadie's like that too. My thing is just, this is our disagreement. We have no ceiling fans in our house.

This is our disagreement. Is that I think that ceiling fans are meant to use on demand when you're hot, but not every single night. I'm always hot, so. It's just like, it doesn't need to be on every night. But if you're hot, then you can use it as a backup. Sleeping fans, like a fan, when she sleeps, it like hurts her eyes?

It does, my eyes do. My eyes are more watering. Well, guess what? You sleep with your eyes closed. It makes no sense. No, my eyes water so bad. Your eyes water? Doesn't make any sense.

It does make sense. It does. It does not make any sense. Most nights I go to bed, he's like, are you crying? I'm like, no. It's the fans. No, you said when you got your new glasses, you were fine with that.

Yeah. When I wear my glasses, it pops there. It would make sense if you were like watching TV in your room, and the ceiling fan was on on and your eyes were watering. That's what happens. If you're sleeping your eyes are shut. Just let us know in the comments when you walk in your room and go to sleep. Yeah, we have no fans in our house. Does ceiling fans make your eyes water? We can agree on that. My thing is you turn it on to go to sleep. Like you ain't turning it off. I'm not sweating in the sauna in my bed. That's not how this is going.

I actually can't believe that you let us not do fans in our house. Okay, I have- Some things are better left just to- That's love. You're welcome. Okay, I have my ick for Jacob. This is my ick, is that, unfortunately,

Jacob is one of those people who just gets food in his teeth naturally, but the thing that it's not an ache that you have food in your teeth, it's an ache that you don't care to get it out. I'll be like, hey, and he's like, it's okay, I'll get it later. I'm like, no, like go find a mirror. He's just carrying those like, flosser things.

I'll be like, Jacob, and he's like, it's okay, and then keeps talking, I'm like. Who doesn't care? No, it's not okay. I'm the one who has to see he's like, it's okay. And then keeps talking, I'm like. Who doesn't care? No, it's not okay. I'm the one who has to see it. That's a great thing. That is a great quality in you.

That's the, that is. You get all of me, baby. You're very confident. All the food and teeth are not. He doesn't care about his food and teeth. You have a hygiene problem. He's just like, there's a hygiene problem. We'll be in public and I'll see him talking to someone.

Cause you're gonna build up plaque in your teeth by not taking this stuff out. I don't think I've been to the dentist in two years. Oh, you should probably do. That's another egg. That's a cavity egg. Cavity boy. Cavity boy.

I've never had a cavity. Well. Cause you do it at first. You know what, cause you don't go to the dentist. Well. Yeah, I can probably do. I'm two years maybe not have one, but I ain't had one.

Your biggest ick, I really, well, you had an ick last night that really bothered me. Was... Oh, yeah. Sadie fell asleep on the couch last night. And I went to bed. And I tried to go wake her up like legitimately six times. And each time it was like, I'm coming, I'm coming.

And I'd be like, alright, see you in bed. She never would come. I know, I know, that's not what you say. You get so mad. And then the seventh time I walked in, I said, Sadie, get up. And then you were like, huh, huh, huh, huh. So it drives me, yeah, I'm like. And then I'm like, by the way, why are you so mad at me?

If someone wakes me up, if someone wakes me up, I'm like conscious. Sadie's like, I'm like just get up and go to like. That is you. That is your ick about me. You do get so mad about that. When I'm napping. When you're napping you're like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and then you just go right back to sleep. Well the first time I try to get her up. The thing is, is I actually like falling asleep on the couch, and that bothers you. No, it doesn't. It's fine. It bothers you because I don't wake up when you try to wake me up. Well, the first three times I went in there, I was like rubbing her, but I was like, Hey, babe, you want to come to bed? I offered that. She said no.

You did not? Yes, I did. You did? I carried Honey to bed, and then I said, do you want me to carry you too? And then you were like, no, I'm coming. It's fine. I don't even remember that. So the first like four times, I was sweet. you were like, no, I'm coming, it's fine. I don't even remember that. So the first four times, I was sweet.

I was like, hey, I'm coming to bed. You want to come? And you were like, yeah, I'm coming. And then finally, literally, it was like seventh. I was like, get up and go to bed. And then it's so funny because I'm like, why are you so mad at me? And he's like, well, I tried to tell you so many times nicely,

but I don't remember any of those, unfortunately. So then she finally gets in bed bed and then she's like, can you go find my phone charger for me? And I'm like, sure. And then she tells me it's in her purse, go check the purse, not in the purse. And then she said, actually, I think it's on the table. Go check the table, not on the table.

Then finally, actually, no, actually, it's plugged into the outlet in the kitchen. I've ever, I've ever. So this all, yeah, so I was kind of. That's a good, that's fair. It's a fair egg. I was kind of fed up last night. It's a fair egg. My egg of you is not quite as extreme,

it is more changeable, but Christian picks his nose in public like it's nothing. And it's not like a subtle like thumb like scrape off. It's like knuckle deep finger Oh, I have an egg for Christian That's the worst egg It's when he eats food with his fingers Hold on, this was about spouses

Yeah, what do you do? He's all the way in his mouth while he's eating his food First off, I used a fork What were you eating the other day that I was like You did the other day, that was bad. It sounded like there was a bunch of haters in there. I was watching Christian eat something the other day and I was like... That's so true. No, it was sushi.

I can't use chopsticks and they didn't have silverware. No, it was the fish. It was the cod. It's that. That's the ick part. I'm illic. I will not apologize for my deep nostrils. The nose picking, the fact that you just don't care that other people see that is interesting to me. I have a deviated septum and I have deep nostrils.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say deep nostrils. Because you don't have deep nostrils. I don't think so. Well, guess what? I have fat fingers. So to reach the areas, I have to shove it in there Eat your boogers you eat them Would be terrible and that is honey, yeah, I'll be married

We know who passed down the boogers. The honey. Yeah, honey got that from you. Does honey have deep nostrils? I promise you I do. Honey doesn't have deep nostrils, but she does love picking her nose. And Haven now sees honey do it, and she tries, and I'm like, don't do that.

She's like, gross? Like, is it? Because I see honey and my dad do it all the time. Bunch of gold diggers. Okay, this is a funny question. What's the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you as a couple? And I know that might be hard to think of, and. What's the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you as a couple? And I know that might be hard to think of,

and this is not the most embarrassing thing, but last night we had a really embarrassing moment that I literally FaceTimed Bella to tell her. And it was the funniest thing ever. I have to share, it was so funny. You're gonna say the word? I'm gonna say it. What?

Yeah, yeah, you gotta tell me this. This is funny, Scott. You gotta hear this. I gotta listen, Scott. You gotta hear this. I gotta listen, boys. I haven't told you anything about this in a long time. We were FaceTiming Christian's parents, and we were just chatting about life and all the things, and I mentioned something awesome

that Christian has going on in his life. I was like, oh, Christian, did you tell him about this conversation that you had today? Well, my mom always gets upset with me because she doesn't think that I tell her things, and so, which is not true. This is like a common thing. So like, then she'll be like, upset with me because she doesn't think that I tell her things. And so, which is not true.

This is like a common thing. So like, then she'll be like, Christian, you didn't tell me that. Why didn't you tell me that? Okay, so then Christian goes on to share, and then I was like, oh yeah, and the reason why he had that conversation is because this is so awesome that he's working on, because of that thing that he's working on. And then his mom's like, why do you know that either? And then it was like spiraling, like all the things she didn't know.

And then Christian was like, well, OK, well, Sadie had a pap smear today. It just literally came out of nowhere. You want to know something else? It was like his mom and his dad, and they both were like. Oh. And everyone just turned so red. Christian was like this will fix them. No it gets worse. It gets worse. That's what I thought too. So then I'm like so embarrassed. I was like yes I did and they were like everyone was just so red and awkward and I was like yep it was pretty bad you

know those appointments never and then and then Christian was feeling the awkward energy and he was like, what's a pap smear? And then I was like. I didn't know what it was. He was just dropping knowledge with no definition. I thought it was just like a follow-up appointment. So he was like, well, I didn't want you to just not know, Sadie had a doctor's appointment today,

but he didn't know what pap smear meant. And so he told me. I thought pap smear just meant like, this was a follow-up where you just get your body checked. You gave him an image. I didn't know it was like. You gave him an image, my brother. Yeah, I'm aware of that now.

Yeah. I did not know that at the time. I can't. So I'm still embarrassed by that. That's less than 24 hours ago. Y'all got any? I mean, hey. They knew you had a Pap smear.

They just didn't know you had one yesterday. That's true. Now you all, now all the woes that's happening. I'm just saying like if you're pregnant, like if you're going to your doctor's appointment, like I bet his mom, exactly that's what I'm saying, like in the back of your head, like I'd never think about that. But it's like, women do if they're pregnant. And I'm just saying, Christian was just like, here it is, like she had one yesterday.

There's nothing more awkward. And then it was just funny, because it was just on me to then share. That's also funny. What am I gonna say? It's your third child, you don't know what pap smear is. Oh, I have an embarrassing story, and I won't tell it to the full extent,

but I'll just tell loosely about it. But one time when we were- I just thought about the most embarrassing story It's all me it's no I I'll let you tell the story But right when we moved into our house a little crawfish action, that's pretty embarrassing That was bad story. I didn't think One time we were at the beach Multiple toilets no, but the whole thing is we had the dude walked out the house with a toilet on his shoulder.

He broke the system. I broke the whole thing. He told us we had to buy a whole new toilet after that. I've never even heard of that. You haven't heard that story? I mean, I've heard that story. I've never heard of that. I mean to anybody else.

Well, I just felt bad for him because he had to have on like some muck boots or something in that bathroom. The tile was white and there. I mean, I said, usually I walk out with a plunger. Dude, I know that was dripping on his back. He had a good day at bat. I'm just being for real. It was bad. That was like when y'all first moved in. It was terrible.

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and Jacob back straight into, in his stepdad's car, back straight into a pole. Are you? He scraped the whole side of his stepdad's car, the window goes down, the door pops open, it was just like he totally ruined his stepdad's car. And then we had to drive a 45 minute car ride with his stepdad, his mom, his sister, and her friend.

The whole car ride in the car was like shh. Oh, it made me so mad. It was like rattling and shaking. That's why it was embarrassing. That is embarrassing. And that speaks to like the embarrassment as a couple. It's like sometimes your spouse does something or you do something that truly is embarrassing as a couple.

And then you're both in it together, even though you didn't do it or they did it. But you have to be a team in that moment. You're with his whole family and you're obviously gonna be with him, but it's really hard. Because it's awkward. And then the whole car, there's wind coming in from like the window that got broken and there's just like it's loud and the cars rattling and I'm just sitting there

like how long have y'all been married? About to be four years in June. No at that point. We weren't even married yet. We weren't married yet. Which is worse. I think we were dating for like a few months. That is awkward. I guess that wasn't our marriage story. I think most of our embarrassing stories are when we were dating. But that was pretty bad. I mean I was so embarrassed. I feel like there's probably a lot of embarrassing stuff that happens that I just don't think about. Well when I clogged the toilet. Yeah I thought about that for y'all last month. Yeah we thought about that for you guys.

When I was on standby on that flight. There's just a few things. Oh yeah. I can't even say the most embarrassing one to its full story either, but when I was pregnant with Honey, there was just a lot you couldn't hold in, and it was very embarrassing. Yeah, I remember that story. But I'm sure you'll all remember. You don't remember that before I was preaching that Sunday?

Yeah, that's true. But the thing is now, you don't get as embarrassed because it's like- It's part of it. It's just part of it. Like if I had clogged the toilet, I would just be like- I'm thinking of embarrassing- Embarrassing stories are involved with other people, not just- I'll say, the time when Jacob clogged the toilet was the most embarrassing as a relationship because Jacob left me alone with the plumber while he Into the house open the door and then say

This is the room and then I wasn't like my husband did it. I was just like You let it be like it was you? No, no, no. I just was like. That's so slow. I just was like here. She put up caution before it was wet. I sat in the living room and just like this.

I heard all the noises going on there. I didn't know what was going on. And then I just saw him walk out with the toilet on his back. And I was like, oh my gosh. I was so embarrassed. That is hilarious. I got another thing. This is actually like common. No, I was like, oh my gosh. I was so embarrassed. That is hilarious. I got another thing. This is actually like common.

No, I wouldn't say this is common, but this is like an easy, everybody can relate to this. So we just moved into the house we were living in however long ago. And we just got Coco, our dog. We have a golden doodle and we have a lab, but this is Coco's before Dixie. And well, Coco,'d in the kennel

and also hadn't met my neighbors yet. Oh no. And so I cleaned up the dirty kennel and I put all the towels outside and I was washing them off with the water hose. Well, my neighbor drives up to my house on a tractor and I meet my neighbor while hosing off poop on my driveway

There's anything you need brother. You just call and I'm like sitting here Just like washing like very prominent poop like ten poop towels Yeah, this is like ten towels of poop in our driveway And I'm just sitting here with like my shirt off and like Crocs just like washing off poop. I'm like alright brother Thanks nice to meet you That is hilarious. He probably thought to meet you. That is hilarious. He probably thought that was you. Oh my gosh.

It could have been my own rags, you know? The plumber thought it was Bella and then your neighbor. Yeah, I was like, it's a dog. And he knew in the back of his head. He saw that toilet go out the first day I moved in. If you said it's a dog, that would just make it worse. Okay, this is a good question.

Any advice and tips you wish you knew before living together? I guess the best advice and tips, I guess, would be going into it and knowing that you're going to have to carry the weight of some type of role. It's just figuring out what that is. That's good. Like going into it, you don't know roles like figuring out who's going to take out the trash, who's going to wash the dishes, who's going to wash the clothes and all that type of stuff.

I'll say like you think before you're married, you're like, you talk about those things like you're going to do this and you're gonna but It never really works out the way you think it's gonna work out because you start to live and you're like well I'm you know, and then you start to pick up other things So I think before we got married I remember when we were at Primarily counseling we like talked through like each other's roles But then we got married and it was like well then I like, oh, I'm doing all this and you were like, well, I'm doing all this and then it kind of was like, okay,

and then we figured out what works for us. Yeah, I guess the best advice would be just open to play different roles that you've probably never done. Like, just be open, be a team player until you figure out like what's going on. And don't compare, because we even had the argument the other day, it got on the train of, well, I do this, and why do this?

And that is such a common argument within- You'll never win, man. Because you're never going to win, because you both do a lot. Like, you're both being, you know, you're both giving up things. You're both doing a lot. You're both serving each other in your household.

And I feel like when you start going down that track of what I do versus what you do, it just does not go well. And you really have to see yourself as a team, as a unit, like how can we help each other in this? How can we help our family and like being willing to serve in places and especially because life just seasons change, you know, sometimes you do something and then in the next season I do it or whatnot, especially with having kids because once we had kids

like who knew you would be doing all the bottles and stuff like that or I would be doing mostly like the Getting them ready like you know what I mean like you just have to pick up what works for that time I don't be grateful You would ever thought you were doing you would do all the dishes and stuff But it's like I never grew up thinking I was gonna do like all the handyman stuff. Like I do like, I'm the one with the tool kit doing that type of stuff.

And that was never, I'm talking about like, installing things or whatever. Meeting with the plumber. Installing the bidet. Meeting with the plumber. I did install the bidet for Jacob. Like a real plumber. All the things and then like hanging up stuff or

like meeting with people at the house like plumbers and electricians and stuff like that like I didn't think that would be my role but that's just I'm more I can do that better and Jacob does the dishes thank God because I do a lot of cooking and I need somebody to cover the other side of cooking. That's how we are I cook Christian does all the dishes and cleans and it works for us. That wouldn't work for everybody, but it works for us. I love to cook, enjoy cooking,

but whenever I leave it a mess, I'm so thankful that he comes behind me and cleans it up. And every couple is different because some couples are gonna have a fight, listening to this podcast going, he cleans the whole kitchen after, or what? And I do all this, you know? And so again, like one, don't compare yourself

to other couples. Do not compare your spouse to someone else's spouse. That will always lead you down a bad trail and a bad track. And then two, like bringing up what you do versus they do never goes well. But again, I think just being thankful. I think one thing that we've noticed is like, even though we're five and a half years in,

it still goes such a long way to notice what the other person's doing and say thank you. Like just, it's a common thing that I cook and you clean, but you still thank me for cooking, I still thank you for cleaning, you know, because. And when you don't, I actually really get mad. You do. That's why I'm saying that. You'll be butthurt if I clean the kitchen for like

Some legitimately some nights is like two and a half hours and if Sadie doesn't say thank you I like get really mad you do It's like the same thing. It's my weakness. Also some things that are Like mean more to you even if it's not as big of a job, that just mean more to you. I cook all of our meals pretty much, but Jacob makes me coffee in the morning. Even though making coffee takes five minutes and making lunch at noon takes hours, that means a lot to me in the mornings when he makes my coffee.

That's just like, I love coffee in the morning before I get out of bed. It's like the best thing of the day when he brings me a coffee before I wake up. And it's like, even if we wanted to compare like apples to apples, like, well, I spend hours on cooking and you don't, it's like, whatever means something to you may, I don't know, does that make sense?

It's like some things go a long way. Even if it's little things. I don't know, does that make sense? Oh, for sure. Some things go a long way. Right now? Even if it's little things. Can I share a recent argument, but it's been a sweet thing, but then it turned into an argument with the diapers. So up until this season of life, I have changed many, many, many, many, many diapers.

Christian has too. I'm not the only diaper changer, but I'm gonna change the diaper. Change a lot of diapers. Well, this pregnancy, I have been throwing up a lot. So every time I smell the poo poo diaper, I literally have to throw up. And so it means a lot to me when Christian changes the diaper

because I'm like, thank you. You're saving me from a moment of like throwing up. And it's like frustrating to change a diaper, especially after I just ate a meal, because I know I'm about to throw up my whole meal, but it's okay, I'll do it. But Christian's been so sweet and stepped in for that. Well, the other day he made a comment, like,

so when is your... It was a Smart A comment. Yeah, it was, thank you. It was like, so when is your... You asked me to change the diaper, and I said, how long is your diaper height it's gonna be for? Yeah, and I was like, well, as long as I throw up

after I smell it. A little much. He made a sassy comment. Well, then I said, well, I changed her diaper last night, actually, poo poo, and Honey never does this, but she accidentally poo pooed and I changed that too. So it was two in one day and he goes, Oh, you changed one poo-poo diaper. As if. I have not changed so many over the past three years.

I was in the wrong. I know. So then that obviously created a healthy argument. But- Sometimes poo-poo just gets in the way. I know. I'm not gonna say it, but, deep happens, life happens, okay? We'll bring that back on the Cussin episode for us.

Anyways, all that to say, like, different seasons of life do require the other person serving in different ways than you thought you were gonna have to, and you too. And marriage gives you so many opportunities to be selfless and to serve, and then having kids gives you so many opportunities to be selfless and to serve. And then having kids gives you so many opportunities to be selfless and to serve. And that's all when they say like marriage is like a mirror,

and sometimes it's like, whoa, I don't like that about myself. I think that just continues. You're never going to get past that, having to have that kind of sacrifice, that selflessness, that love. But I think that that's what makes it beautiful too. That's part of love and that's what makes the family such a beautiful thing, is giving up certain things and serving in certain areas and being selfless.

But it is hard. There are moments that we just make comments and you just get annoyed or all the different things. And so, yeah. Any tips and advice for before living together I think those were great pieces of it snuggle every single night oh yeah your expectations are important someone said how to react when marriage isn't going the way you thought it would be if you think you're gonna snuggle together every night invest in the ceiling fan I wanted to snuggle every night for the record.

It's not me. That's a huge thing. I was going to say this too about just like whatever we were just talking about. About just like roles and stuff. I was just going to say no matter what, we're all different people. Everybody's unique.

All of us, even married couples, I'm just saying. So like perception for everybody is never going to add up the same. So if you look at it like your significant others having the same perception, everyone values and views things at different levels. So you just gotta play the roles that are given. And that goes back to being selfless.

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What is your favorite personality quality in your husband or wife? Since we started with an ick and all the embarrassing, let's go sweet now. To be honest about the ick thing, I didn't even have an ick before last night. As in like, I just don't use that word. I don't like think about that. Like I just don't think about that type of stuff. I know. Our icks are more like funny to me

Momentarily turns you off That's more dramatic Momentarily makes you like yeah, and it is not something that you actually don't like about yourself, it's just something that you're like, I don't understand that about you, but. If we get in the car, this is another egg, before we get. Wait, should we talk about nice things? Sorry, sweetie.

But you get in the car, and if you're driving, you pull out your phone and you start texting all those people back. Before I drive. Well then I'm like, let me drive, and you can text all these people. I don't text and drive, that's why I'm getting it done before I leave.

I know, but this is funny, like you think to text people back when you get in the driver's seat, and I'm like, let me drive. Because of your follow-up ick, why don't you start with your favorite personality quality in your work? Yeah.

You're so sweet. That you are super genuine and authentic. That's very sweet. That has been something you have consistently said about me since we first met. So I appreciate that. My favorite quality in you Christian is how deeply you care about your relationships. Sometimes it's hard for you because of how much you care. Sometimes to a fault. I can attest to that.

Oftentimes it's to a fault. But you love people really deeply and you're very loyal to your people. Thank you. I appreciate that. Oh, it's on me? I thought I was going to bounce off you. I think for me and Bella, I think our fit, my favorite quality. I don't know if this is a couple quality or just a Bella quality, but like Bella's is

a very servant hearted. I Think and like always served like I don't ever feel like Bella's not like Bella's always willing to help me out like in anything I do like I know in anything I'm gonna go in I know Bella's gonna be like by my side and like help me like in whatever way she can like Whatever that looks like But the other thing I'm gonna say is another thing I love about me and Bella is me and Bella can laugh in anything like I'm telling you in the worst things we can laugh like We could just have a good time. It doesn't matter Like I can have my leg cut off and I think we could be already making fun of my like me having half a leg

Yeah, we just have fun. Like I remember Bella like when we were engaged like I She like had like a deal and we end up going to hospital and I think we just have fun. Like I remember Bella, like when we were engaged, like she like had like a deal and we ended up going to the hospital. And I think we just laughed the whole time when we were in the hospital. Yeah. Like I mean, I was, it was scary or whatever, but like after that, like we just, we're goofing off.

I don't know. That's true about y'all. I have so many videos from that hospital stay of us just, you were being so funny. Just being able to find humor and everything. I had to work her into that though, because sometimes she's like, it's not funny. But now, after about three and a half years,

I think she's got used to it. It took a little adjusting, but yeah. I see that. That's sweet, thanks babe. I think that my, why are you looking at me like that? I think that my favorite quality about Jacob is that he is always, like on my team, I feel like you always, we do everything as a team

and I feel like you're always, if it's your win, it's my win too, or my win, it's your win too. Like sometimes I'll joke with Jacob because I'll do some of my work and Jacob will be like, like after we did this, but it's like, even if I did it, it's like we did it because we literally do everything together And so like working at duck commander we've had so much fun together because I work at duck commander

And Jacob doesn't necessarily work at a commander, but he helps me with every single project I do a duck commander and I just feel like you always help me with everything and you want to be on my team to help And I don't know I just feel like I love that about you You always are with me and don't let me like be by myself that often like even if we're doing different things you're always rooting for me or helping me with whatever I'm doing. That's very true. I see that in both of y'all. That's so sweet. Someone asked a question, I'm trying to find it, how they phrase it but it was basically like how

do you go through hard things together? It like, how do you go through hard things together? It was like, how do you go through moments of grief together or hard things? And you just spoke a little bit to like, being in the hospital or scary times. And I think that is something that like, no one can really prepare you for for marriage until it happens to you, you know?

Like I remember our first year of marriage was like really good and I mean, relatively easy in the sense that things just were pretty smooth you know and a lot of people warned us the first year is so hard we didn't experience that and then it was like the next year closer to year three that was like so hard for us because we went through something together that was very hard that we've shared and I think that for us it has been important to have outside voices

speaking into our lives and like being honest with other people with what we're going through has been super helpful for us because within like, it's like if you have something, when you go through something by yourself, you can get in your head about something and you begin to gain a perspective that's very small to just like what you went through. And then when you go through something as a couple, you can kind of get that way together. You know, like in some sense, like you both can get that small mindedness. You both can get in that, like not being able to see the other perspective or outside of

the situation you just went through. And so I think in both individual and as couples, like it's so important to confess things, to talk about things and to have an outside voice say like, here's what I see in both individual and as couples, it's so important to confess things, to talk about things, and to have an outside voice say, here's what I see in this, here's how I'm gonna pray for you to get through it, bringing friends into it, bringing a mentor into it, bringing a counselor into it, I think has been really helpful for us

during hard, hard seasons of our life. And also just knowing, I think because we've had so many long lasting marriages in our family to look to, and they've all been so open and honest about like, you're gonna go through hard times, but you're also gonna get through them. Like you can get through them. And like two mamas shared about how like,

seasons were hard, years were hard, you know? But when you look back at a 50 year marriage, it's so fruitful and so blessed. And so in those moments, having the perspective of like, we can get through this, and we're going to get through this, and we're gonna come out of this with a lot more wisdom than we had before, you know? And I think that hard year

led us into some of the best two years that we've had, you know? Like this past year, I feel like we know each other so much more deeply. We don't argue two years that we've had. You know, like this past year, I feel like we know each other so much more deeply. We don't argue about the stuff we used to. We've matured in a lot of ways. And a lot of that was going through the hard things. So I think truly getting through it together

and letting outside voices has been a huge thing for us. Yep, yeah, I agree. I think couples counseling has been great and like individual people that you can, yeah, confess and repent and do life with, so. We're all about phoning a friend. We are phoning, we're phoning our frienders. I would say we've just learned a lot about

in the past three and a half years just how to constantly keep checking in on each other about something I feel like if you know that, or if you're going through something together, like even if sometimes it feels awkward and you're like, hey, are you OK? It's like it feels awkward in the moment. But like even if at the moment they're like, yeah, I'm fine. Maybe later, like you'll think about it and you'll be like, oh,

like that actually is still weighing on me or like, oh, like I have still been thinking about that. Or if there's something that you go through, I feel like constantly keeping checking in with each other. And then also, like Jacob said, like, laughing through hard times. And I think laughing and crying together is one of the most beautiful things that you can do together. It's like being in something really hard together and go through a really hard season, and then also laugh about it.

And I think a lot of times me and Jacob, like, we kind of have, you know, dealt with some hard things. And I think that a lot of times it can be really heavy and sad, but when we lay our head down at night, we can talk about it and laugh and like laugh through kind of like, maybe the funny elements of a hard situation, which sometimes is hard to do, but you just have to pull out those things in the situation that can kind of like, I don't know, I feel like it's very unique

to go through something hard with someone else in the same situation, you know what I mean? Very vulnerable, yeah. Just like, even if you have a family issue, it's like, well, I'm feeling this deeper than you are because it's my family, or you're feeling this deeper than I am because it's your family. But it's like, it's a very unique time to go through

something together at the same time. And I feel like when you do that, it's so important to just keep communicating always. And I think our pre-menopausital counselor always told us over-communicate. It's like you can't under, I mean you can't over-communicate. So just constantly check in with each other. A friend of ours actually, Morgan Krueger, people may know her, she told us when we were dating that it was like you can't read each other's minds.

Like, don't let yourself be a mystery to the other person. Like, it's not fun to like, try to guess what the other person's thinking. And I feel like we learned that a lot early on, is just like over-communicate. It's not fun to be a mystery. Like, when you're married, just over-communicate and be honest.

Yeah. I love that. I guess the other thing is for us, it's just obviously, you know, learning just, I guess it goes back to like roles too, is like, just like you were saying, like some stuff's harder for the other person, like just learning how to like be,

because we all have ways that we deal with things, we all have ways we cope with things, we have like the normal things that we grew up with on how we like resonate with whatever's going on in our life and learning how to be that person for someone else. Because how I cope and deal with things is not how Bella does it. And it's definitely very foreign to me,

obviously, to learn that. Because most people that get married didn't grow up with each other. They're not your siblings. They don't know how you roll. And so it's like learning how Bella needs to be nurtured in a grieving moment or in a sad moment or in a happy moment or just like how to Like, you know love that person and hard things. It's like it's just very different It's just like learning

And it goes down to the mystery thing like you're gonna have to ask yeah Like it ain't you ain't gonna figure it out. You gotta ask how to fulfill someone's need. Because that's what we need. I think that's what we've learned about each other, is like, you kind of need to be asked. I feel like you're not just gonna be like, talking about the hard things, just while you're feeling them.

It's kind of like, how are you doing? And then maybe you'll tell me how you're doing, you know what I mean? But that's just the way that you kind of just have grown up. That's your personality Whereas like I'm more like I if I feel something I have to say it like I'm just very honest in that way So it's like if I'm thinking about something at night. I can't just keep it in my head I have to tell you what I'm thinking about you know and I Need you to just listen to me

Exactly, that's all I just need you to hear what I'm talking about and listen and I don't really need you to like, you know, asking me a million questions. I just need you to hear what I'm telling you. That's so real, learning the way that each other goes through those things. Like, yeah. Bella used to say stuff, I would just be like,

well then just do this, think about it like this. And it's like, that doesn't help me. It doesn't need it right there. It just doesn't work. That's like you and I, I would just be like, well then just do this, think about it like this, and it's like, this ain't helping. It doesn't need it right now. I know, like, I don't need to do it. It just doesn't work. You and I, I would like wanna, let's have this conversation right there, and let's deal with it, let's get to the end of it.

Whereas like, you need some space, like you don't need to go sit outside for a little bit, or go on a walk. And I've realized, like, if I let that happen, it comes back to a better conversation than just powering through on the same tone. You know, like, you need to go gain perspective or need to like, not like cool off or whatever,

and then I need to think about what I'm saying and what process, what just happened, instead of just like finishing the conversation right there and right then and there. So I do feel like you learn that. Like one thing we learned through going through hard things is like Christian goes more towards like anger and hard moments or tough moments.

And I go towards fear and tough moments or hard moments. And sometimes anger and fear do not do a good job of nurturing one another, you know? But seeing it for what it is, it's like, you're not angry at me, you're angry at the situation. Like I'm fearful and having anxiety. And there's nothing you can really do to fix it other than just be with me you know and so like learning that is important. When someone's angry they're not very they're not very nurturing.

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It's just learn how to navigate those emotions and acting on them doing that together as a gift Yeah, I was gonna say the best thing I think you can do for the other person in time of like grief or suffering is just like give the other person your full attention. I think that that's one way that we figured out just like doesn't work. It's like you're on your phone and I'm trying to tell you something or you're cleaning the kitchen and I'm trying to, you know, it's like the best thing you can do for the other person when they're feeling like down about something is do for the other person when they're feeling down about something

is just give the other person your full attention. I think that that's really important. Looking at this first, because I keep thinking about it as we're talking, and it's so true. And it's a classic one, but I want to read it exactly how it is. Ecclesiastes 4, 9, 2 are better than 1 because they have a good return for their labor.

If either of them falls down, one can help them up. Pity the man who falls and doesn't have anyone to help him up. But if two lie down together, they will keep each other warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not easily broken. And I love that verse.

And we did like the quarter, three strands at our wedding with Louie. He led us in that and really spoke that over us. And I think like that's the gift of marriage in those moments is like you have somebody to walk through that with. And so you need to see it for what it is. Like the gift to go through the hard together,

the gift to go through the good together and being able to be that for your spouse is like such a blessing. And I remember having Brandon and Brittany Lake on the podcast. And Brittany was, I think her best piece of advice was like, pray for your spouse. And she was like, because who else is gonna pray

for your spouse like you are? And it was very convicting to me because I of course, pray for a Christian, but not like pray for you. Like I need to, you know? And I feel like I find myself thinking about her advice a lot. Like we are those people to do that for each other. You know, we're the people to go through life

and to help each other and pick each other up. We're the people to keep each other warm and the people to like make life fun with each other and create life. Like when we were just in London, we got to this place and the room was a little bit different than we expected. And it was kind of like, it wasn't like the easiest place to stay, you know?

And Christian immediately was just like, oh this is not gonna be good and we just kind of like had to reboot and I was like, well it's gonna be good if we make it good, you know? Because like we get to create what this adventure is for our family, what this adventure is for our kids. And by the end of it, Christian was like, this was such an amazing trip and moment and I'm never gonna forget this particular place that we were in and how much Honey and loved it and Haven loved it.

And it's like, we thought they weren't gonna like it, but then once we shifted our perspective, like we get to create their memories. Like we get to create our memories, like how we make this. And it was like the most fun thing. I think that's a good picture of what marriage can be. You get to create a life together. And so even back to the roles and the serving one another, the more you do that, the better your life's going to be. You joke about the ceiling fan, you're like, it'll just be easier to do better. There are some things, and that's a small funny example,

but there are some things that you really can compromise on or let go of that will just make your life a lot better, you know? And you get to decide that as a couple. Someone asked a question I thought it was a good question. They said, what are little things that you do to bring each other joy? I was thinking the other night because we had dinner with mom and dad and Christian was asking them some marriage questions and like things that they fell in love with each other for things that they were surprised by marriage and all these different fun things.

And then they got to talking about things that make you to their laugh. And dad said for the past like however many years they've been married 30 years, dad said, I can't even count how many times I've jumped into bed like this. He like jump into bed and he go fish out of water. And it just makes mom laugh and I was like that's such a good example of just like doing something to make your spouse laugh That just makes life better and again like you get to create what your life is Making each other laugh is a gift to one another but do y'all have any funny things? I do that like you know will make each other laugh

I feel like I just do a bunch of random stuff all the time Yeah, Jacob does about a million things a day to make me laugh. Yeah. And about like 75% of them hit. That's so true. Sometimes Bella will not be laughing. And I'm like, how do you not laugh at him? He's so funny.

He does it nonstop, which is like normal to me now. I said out of this group of four people that we were talking about during the podcast, I said Sadie, for humor's like normal to me now. I said I said out of this group of four people We're talking about the other side said Sadie for humor is my number one fan. I laugh at everything Actually, if you go back on this podcast you might have laughed or had tears coming out is That's a gift. I would say yeah What we do that like makes each other laugh. There's nothing like pinpoint. I would say I just like I what we do that makes each other laugh? There's nothing like pinpoint, I would say. I just like, I'm a pretty,

a lot of people probably don't know me, but I'm just a very goofy, weird guy, and I don't really have a filter, especially around people I know me. We're only three minutes in, people have noticed. Yeah, so like, I just like to have fun. I just like to goof off. Like, it's fun to be serious too.

Like, it's good moments to do that. But like, if I'm not like, making somebody laugh or trying to, a lot of stuff don't hit but you just got to own it. Dad is like king of like trying to make mom laugh. And it's very sweet. I feel like Jacob is always trying to make me laugh. And you do most of the time.

But I think with you, you just don't let it phase you if I don't laugh. You're just like get them next time. There's multiple times where Bella's like. What are you laughing at? I'm laughing at things that you didn't make me laugh. You're dancing. Anytime you dance publicly, it makes me laugh.

Well, the problem with that is I'm not necessarily trying to make you laugh. Oh, Jacob does a classic. I'm just having to suck at dancing. Jacob does a classic, like when I'm like looking at him, I'm like, oh, you look cute. And then he'll like turn his head to the side and do like when I'm like looking at him, I'm like, oh you look cute and then he'll like turn his head to the side and do like a weird smile like this and I'm like I feel like every time I tell you that you look good you have to

do something weird to make me not think you look good. That is so real. But I don't know, I can't think of anything. There's tons of times though like something doesn't hit with Bella and she's like that not funny. And then I just do something else. That's true. You just keep rolling. Is there anything that we didn't make you laugh besides public dancing that is pretty funny? Any time when he starts with that voice.

Well, I can't think of something off the bat that, like you do make me laugh, but I'm trying to laugh. I feel like when Christian goes- I feel like we do make each other laugh, but it's more just like spontaneous weirdness then. That's what I think. I was gonna say, like when he's like on some like food or coffee and you're like, how is it?

And he's like, oh my God, that's so good. Oh yeah, you're- That's Christian's face. Yeah, that is Christian. You do that all the time, like different voices. And you're, you're just saying, exactly there, exactly. That's the face of Christian.

That's how he is, he's like, this is the best thing I've ever had. Or like whenever I'm really into a story and I'll be so serious about it and then you match my tone and I know you're just like being sarcastic and it makes me laugh. That was funny. I'm just very surprised.

And then I'm just weird randomly. Okay, this is funny. For the husbands of the group, Christian and Jacob, what is it like marrying sisters who have a close relationship and do a lot of things together? It's really the sweetest. That's what I mean.

That's it. That's it. It's funny because not everyone would know you're joking, but I do. And so people will be like, oh, that's so sweet, Christian. And then it's even more funny. What's it like marrying sisters? Well, marrying sisters is really close.

I feel like Jacob has it to the extreme. You have it double. Because me and his sister are best friends. And then me and my sisters are best friends. So, Jacob's, we always joke like that TikTok sound that's like, and you need to hear this too, me and Kayla. You know that one that's like, Oh yeah, I see that one a lot.

That's it. It's like when you're, it's like that TikTok sound that's like, they're telling a story, then they're like, and you need to hear this too. That's Jacob in every situation, cause he's just always hearing whatever we're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. But this is what it's like marrying sisters.

Whatever happens in your marriage and in your life, to a certain extent, just know the other side knows. Just, that's all I got. I just know if Bella calls her sister or calls my sister, like, you might as well just get ready to be an open book because it's just gonna go down. Yeah, I mean, I don't really know how to, I mean, we're just all good friends.

I don't know how that, that's what I would expect you to say. Like, I think it's been, for you, it's been a gift because you and Jacob are so close. You know, so like, when I want Bella to come over, it's perfect, because Bella and Jacob come over and we hang out till super late and we all have fun and love it.

So like, that's not everybody's case. But I think, well, it's good, but it could be chat. Like, you know, like, you could, you know, I could be, like, me and Christian could hate each other or something, we're like, you know what I'm saying? Y'all get mad at each other for pickleball. It's awkward for us sometimes. I was gonna say, I think,

contrary to what you were saying about how, like, it would be, I would tell Sadie everything, it's like, we all talk about everything, and so I feel like, when we're all together, it's like, if y'all are arguing, or if we're arguing, If y'all are arguing, we know. If y'all are arguing, if y'all are arguing, if y'all, we don't argue.

There's no, we really don't. It's like, we all kinda just are in front of each other, just how we are, we don't have to like hide it. It's not a lot of unknown. It's not a lot of unknown. Real, yeah, and be okay with people knowing. And I think that's a good, I think that's a good thing. All right, last question.

In what ways over the past five years, have you seen your spouse or partner or whatever change, and how has that impacted your relationship? Deep question. So much. So much, did you say? I've really changed so much. I mean, I know I've changed so much.

We got married when I was 18 and you were 21, so I feel like now we're 22 and 25. We've just changed so much. I mean, I was 18 and you were 21. So I feel like now we're 22 and 25. We've just changed so much. I mean, I was 18 and now I'm 22. So I just feel like those years are so formative. It's like I graduated college, I'm in grad school. I'm like such a different person than just graduated high school.

Like just, we're both so different. So I feel like we've changed a lot and grown a lot in both ways. Yeah, just growing up, learning how to like, like I said, roles in marriage, roles in life, like learning how to just pay the bills, figure out all that stuff, like finances, and like whole nine yards, making plans for future.

Like, it's just like a lot of maturing and like growing up. We've really grown up together. That's true, sweet. I think the biggest thing that I've seen for you, changing you, that's been really cool to get to witness is you becoming a dad to Honey and Haven, and how much you really have served our family. You jokingly, you talk about being mad at me for being like,

go get my phone charger and this and that. But you really do. You always are like, can I get you water? Can I get you this? Last night you spent forever working on Haven's new baby monitor, because you did not want to lose any of our footage that we had on the other one.

You just care so much for our family and serve our family so much. And that's something I couldn't have necessarily seen when we were dating, you know, cause like the opportunities weren't there in that way, you know? And I saw it some in early marriage, of course, but now I see that a lot.

Like even at night, you'll jokingly roll your eyes, but you will always massage my feet, you know, like you just serve our family so beautifully. And that's been something that I think has genuinely changed in you, you know, like you just serve our family so beautifully. And that's been something that I think has genuinely changed in you, you know, like God has grown that part of you that's like willing to serve and look for areas. Thanks for saying that. Yes, we went from dating long distance to engaged long distance to getting married, and then COVID hit soon. So then we were quarantined together in a house.

So that was a different transition. And then, yeah, now parenting and having two kids, about to have three kids, it's definitely, it definitely changed in the different seasons, but. I think I've changed a lot too. You have changed a lot. But I feel like I've changed in like, some ways that I'm like, it feels weird.

And I feel like moms can probably relate to this. Where as I feel like,'ve changed in some ways that I'm like, it feels weird and I feel like moms can probably relate to this. Whereas I feel like, I remember a conversation we had, it was a long time ago, y'all probably won't remember this, but someone asked who's funnier, me or Christian. And Jacob said Christian and Bella said me. And then I remember Jacob being like, Sadie?

And then you were like, yeah, like Sadie is really funny. And used to, I was like really, I was like a genuinely funny person, but I was always trying to be funny. I was being weird, goofy, crazy. Like that was just so my personality. And I still have that in me, but not quite as much. I feel like I'm just a lot more chill,

a lot more relaxed, and, I laugh at everybody else. Like, I don't have to be like the person doing something crazy. We're like laughing at other people doing crazy things now. But, and some of that was kind of like, wait, am I not funny anywhere? Wait, where is that side of me? But I think it's just, it's just changed. And I don't really know why.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, but I don't know, there are some things in me that have changed. I think just becoming a mom and life being busy and being home, I still enjoy the fight. I want to laugh. I'm around the crazy. I just like, when I look back at like our Sadie and Lainey

videos, it cracks me up because they're like so crazy. And I'm like, I think I still have that in me. I'm just not like that as much anymore. And you mentioned that the other day, you're like, you're a lot more introverted than you used to be. And that might just be the nature of like our life being so public that when I'm home,

just a little bit more chill. I don't know, don't you feel like you? I feel like too though. I'm picking up your slack. I think too though. Yeah, true, you got weirder. It's like people you surround yourself with and I feel like you and Lainey together are just so funny

and like Lainey's so goofy and silly, which I don't know if she still is either cause it's like, it's y'all together. Like when y'all were together, y'all were so goofy. It is the combo. I feel like if y'all still got together now, y'all may would still be that way. It's just y'all together, you know what I mean?

I do revert back. Yeah, I feel like I have friends like that who like, like even Kayleigh, like me and Kayleigh, I'm definitely probably my goofiest self with Kayleigh. We, I don't know why it's just like, that's just how it is. But then when I'm not as goofy without her, so. And Jacob used to say when we first started dating,

he's like, why do you and Kayleigh always have so much fun together? And then like, when we get started dating, he's like, why do you and Kayleigh always have so much fun together and then like, when we get together, you're not like all goofy, silly, funny. I'm like, I don't know. It's just the people you're around, some people you have different relationships with. It's just that.

That is true. What have you seen changing me and maybe, I don't know. And for the most part. Yeah, I mean, I think just mothering I feel like you may know I say this too But I was gonna say like I feel for me. I used to have a lot more anxiety Yeah, and really struggle with like anxiety and like stress a lot and since we've been married Not just because I feel like at the beginning marriage and like stress a lot. And since we've been married,

not just because we're married. I feel like at the beginning of marriage you were a lot more. And it's not just like, oh, we got married and it all went away. It was more like just having someone to talk through things with and go through that together with. I feel like I've really changed in that way. I'm not like that anymore.

And I don't know. I feel like you may would say something similar, but it's like, marriage, having a good, healthy marriage really can help that a lot. Yes, I'm a lot more anxious. You have someone who, you know, can help you through those times.

You could definitely make it worse too, if you don't like it. Yeah, yeah. I could have definitely made it worse if I didn't deal with, I'm not saying I'm perfect, but obviously we had our slippery slope, I'm just saying, it could have got worse, not like marriage fixed it,

like you don't get married Yeah, but I feel like having a good marriage where your partner supports you and helps you through like that I feel like I Just don't have that anymore and we talked about all the time We're like, it's so funny that we I used to struggle with that because now I just don't yeah I think that is a hundred percent true for me. I'm not as anxious. I'm way more secure in who I am as a person. I'm not, I don't second guess as much, overthink what other people think of me

because I feel like I know who I am and I feel like that really helps when someone else knows who you are and loves you and accepts you for who you are. And maybe that's why in some ways I have chilled out because I just feel like very secure in myself in any room I'm in which is like a Huge gift and that like I think a lot is contributed to our friendship and our marriage and and also becoming a mom and just

The past you know everything we've been through and so helpful I'm just having someone who like loves you no matter what loves you for who you are I think like even don't stop being friends body stuff like I feel like I used to struggle way more with like my body or whatever I looked like or always wanting to look good and stuff like that and since we got married it's just like I know Jacob loves me no matter what it's like it's not a worry anymore you know I don't have to like I used to really struggle with that too. I used to really struggle with what I looked like since then. It was really bad. You know me, I'd be rolling out here like this, like, come on baby.

Come on baby. I cannot. No, I actually love this so much. First of all, thank you everyone for sitting in such great questions so that we could laugh and have serious conversations. I think it was a good reflection for all of us too in the first five years of our marriage and can't wait to continue on and all the different things.

Please keep sending topic ideas, questions that you have. We kind of jokingly mentioned we're gonna do a conversation, a messy conversation on is it okay to cuss, what that looks like in our daily lifestyle. Bella and Jacob are both nervous about that. We are maybe gonna do this. We are maybe. Yeah, maybe. I don't wanna do that. I just don't know if Bella and Jacob are both nervous about that. We are maybe going to do this.

We are maybe. I ain't nervous. I just don't know if they're going to be able to handle it. That's all I'm saying. So let us know if y'all are interested in that or what y'all want to hear us talk about. But love you guys and love you guys. Thanks for doing this podcast with me.

Love y'all. Love y'all. Thanks for watching!