WHOOP Podcast - Live from Wodapalooza: The Buttery Bros Take Over the Mic

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

On this week’s episode, we have some special guest hosts for you! Earlier this month, we were down in Miami at Wodapalooza and our good friends, the Buttery Bros took over the mic to chat with some of our favorite WHOOP-wearing athletes like Annie Thorisdottir, Katrín Davíðsdóttir, and Haley Adams. The Buttery Bros kick things off with Annie and Katrin discussing the pair’s upcoming women’s health initiative (2:50), using data throughout training (6:33), improving sleep habits (7:55), training and staying active while pregnant (10:40), keeping the competitive fire alive (14:18), and Annie and Katrin’s plans for 2024 (15:42). The Buttery Bros then welcome on Haley Adams to discuss how she uses data to train throughout her season (18:48), getting back to competition after time off (19:58), changes to Haley’s training (21:20), Haley’s goals moving forward (22:45), new habits and passions Haley is developing for balance (24:15), creating a more structured training program (27:10), inspiring the younger generation (28:20), feeling inspired to train again (29:50), and how Haley uses WHOOP (31:05).Resources:The Buttery Bros on InstagramAnnie Thorisdottir on InstagramKatrín Davíðsdóttir on InstagramHaley Adams on Instagram Support the showFollow WHOOP: www.whoop.com Trial WHOOP for Free Instagram TikTok YouTube X Facebook LinkedIn Follow Will Ahmed: Instagram X LinkedIn Follow Kristen Holmes: Instagram LinkedIn Follow Emily Capodilupo: LinkedIn

What's up, folks? Welcome back to the WOOP podcast, where we sit down with top athletes, researchers, scientists, and more. Learn what the best in the world they're doing to perform at their peak. I'm your host, Will Ahmed, founder and CEO of Woop. We're on a mission to unlock human performance. This week's episode, we have some special guest hosts for you. That's right. We were down in Miami earlier this month at Wodapalooza, and our good friends,

the buttery bros took over the mic to chat with some of our favorite whoop-wearing athletes like Annie Thoris daughter, Katrin Davis daughter, and Haley Adams. The pair recorded in front of a live audience and talked all things, performance, recovery, strength, training, and mental health, and you can feel the energy of the crowd throughout the conversations. Throughout the year, we'll be live on the ground at lots of major events like this one, recording live with our athlete ambassadors and members just like you.

So if you see us, please come by and say hello. Reminders if you have a question was he answered on the podcast. Email us, podcast to whoop.com. Call us 508-443-4952. Without further ado, here are the Buttery Bros and Annie and Catcher. All right, so this is the Buttery Bros, and we're taking over today for the Whoop podcast with guest hosting. And we have two guests here, a lot of Palooza, that have just finished. running a 5k who are they mars all right we've got annie thor's daughter and catchin david's daughter

who how did the 5k go it was really nice it was like a fun run which i was super happy about because i feel like i came in like not wanting to set up 5k PR anything i wanted to come out have a great morning with everybody enjoy the sun and the heat and i feel like everybody wanted the same thing because if somebody i did it have meant a couple couple months ago and i felt like they wanted to run so fast and you got to keep up and here it was a fun run yeah that was a tough run for me no I didn't do it I didn't do the run I went to the start line with them I cheered everyone on and then I walked to an RV sat in there for 15 minutes and I came out again and cheered everyone on when they came back okay so we're here at Watapalooza you guys have obviously competed here before

but what are you guys up to this weekend well this weekend we're spectators and participating with the community and a lot of different things and we did a seminar yesterday and we're going to do a podcast today and yeah we're here to have fun with a community and spread like water poloosa is like the perfect way to launch things that you're doing and talk about future plans and what we're involved in so that's what we've been doing a lot of tell me while we're on the topic what of future plans what are we working on you want to go yeah well it's not launched we're planning to launched a women's program. It's called Empowered by Daughter, and it was for women, let's say 45 to 55. It's not an exact age, but yeah, but women going through menopause, perimenopause,

and we're doing it with Dr. Stacey Sims, which is she, do you guys know her? The name's familiar. I'm not. She is a leading expert in the world in female physiology, sport physiology, women in supplements and fueling. And, and, and, you know, and, and, you know, what she knows, like not only as a professional athlete, but just as a woman in general, I am mind-blown by the knowledge that he has, and we just want to share that. And we think there's a huge gap in the market for what women going through menopause actually need. And I think it's so misdiagnosed, like, why can they not hold the same pace that they used to be able to? Why do they not have the same energy?

Why are they not feeling the same way that they used to? and I think what they try to do and I think what is very normal is to go let's do a lot of Zone 2 work which we love and it's great for like clearing your head but women go through that you need to be lifting you need to be doing high intensity

you need to be doing sprint animal training and so working with Dr. Stacey Sims on bringing that to these women we have started to talk about it we already have the Instagram and a website for when we launch it but the plan is end of January and we are so excited about it

What's the name of it? Empower by daughter. Okay, but what about the bros? Yeah, yeah. And what about the bros? What about the bros? What about the bros? You mean powering the bros?

You guys are so empowered. So you guys have all the research already done, and you have all the material that you need, and you can continue doing what you want to do. Women, especially, like, just all women in general, they've always been put in the category of small men, so 70-kilomen, and that's just not right. We're different genders and we have different hormones and we have different needs during our cycles and so on.

And women that are going through menopause have just been left out. And I think it neglected. Yeah, it like frustrated me and Kat to like see our moms. This is how it happened. Like we saw our moms and I was helping my mom and dad out and they were just, I feel like I knew a lot. But it wasn't working the same way for my mom and for my dad. So I felt lost and frustrated. and that's how we dove into everything with Stacy and it's mind-blowing how there's finally more and more

research and we're seeing what women need but they don't know so we're going to hold their hand and we're going to make them appreciate their new bodies okay I want to show you something though sorry I'm like I'm like interrupting you a little bit but my mom has not like she goes on like she wants to work out and she starts and I feel like she loses steam when she doesn't get the same result as her husband and she just started this program I literally just just saw that she messaged me. I want to show you guys this. She's here. We have a live text message from Mama Daughter. Oh, she's not going to want me to show you these photos. She said, she said, but I'm so proud of her. And she's like, and I love that we get to share

this too, because now she's following this training program four days a week and she gets excited to, like, message me and shirt with me that she went and did this. And like, I can already just like, I feel her energy a little bit higher. That sounds amazing, guys. This is very cool. I'm excited to see it and proud of you. You guys have done research. You're doing data points. You guys have been doing data points throughout your careers. Yes. And WOOP is all about finding data and utilizing it. How have you guys utilized the data that you've received from this technology or other technologies in your training regiments throughout the decades almost? So I've been using WOOP since 2017. And I actually, it was something that I had to teach

myself pretty early on to not take it too seriously. I would not let a bad recovery day, better recovery day dictate how I felt about today or how I felt about a performance I always I still go and I always give it my best and sometimes you can surprise yourself but I do look at trends and that's what I think whoop is so powerful so am I continuously the only times I've ever really gotten like a red two days in a row I got sick I got sick and so if I'm seeing trends that I'm in the red or I'm not ever getting out of the yellow do you want to do you care to share something with us how are you doing i'm just realizing i'm on like day three of a red

and i've been green for like two months let's talk in i live in the red over here i'm like you dudes yeah but that is something that i really look at we're good we're good we made it back to the green um and then sleep it really keeps me accountable for the sleep like i want to see eight hours of whoop sleep which normally means nine hours of sleep especially when i'm in training and you can kind of cheat yourself like yeah i went to bed at 10 but you were laying in bed on your phone for 30 minutes like whoop doesn't lie it's going to tell me when i fell asleep and when i woke up and it really just it keeps me accountable there speaking of sleep is there any like the things that you do to improve that like besides just going to bed on time yeah for me it's routine very much

routine i i like having a i like being done with dinner between six and seven i like quiet time so i can't like go out for dinner and then just be like ready to go to bed like i need quiet time at home and when I'm in routine I do have been before but it's just like so cozy you have that and it just helps me like wind down honestly and then so when I go to bed I'm really quick to fall asleep gotcha but routine consistency I guess is what I meant about routine well yeah I think whoop for me has helped so much when it comes to my sleep because I'm uh I like going late to bad I like my evenings a little bit longer frederick might go to bed and then I'm like I'm going to have a little bit of me time and just watch something on TV and chill.

But yeah, now I don't always get over eight hours of sleep. I could, but it's hard with a kid, I think, too, because she goes to sleep and then finally me and Frederick have just us time. And that's also my second work window. So I usually work from like 8.30 for at least an hour. Like if I need to respond to emails or take care of something or social media or whatever. So you're on a screen at that point. Oh, I'm on a screen at that point.

Yes. I did, however, get the blue light lenses that will pass. So now I've been playing around with those. And I'm waiting for like to see a bigger trend, but I do feel like I fall asleep quicker. So when I get to bed, I fall asleep quicker. Now, for those that don't know, you're mid-pregnancy right now. Yes. How is that affected sleep?

It's actually, I feel like it's not affecting it. a negative way. I feel like I'm getting fine sleep. There are so many jealous women right now. I know. Like, he's definitely moving around more than Freya was and he is an evening person for sure. So we'll see when it comes out how that's going to be. He's working when you're working. Yes, he's working when I'm working. So I usually feel him a lot when I lie down in bed, but usually like 10, 15 minutes later, he's quiet and I fall asleep and it's actually kind of cozy. It's like Oh, yes, I'm here and I know you're there and it like just calms me a little bit and then I go to sleep and I sleep really well. I'm surprised.

I'm sleeping almost better than I did with my first pregnancy. Wow. Yeah. And obviously this is your second one. So you learn something on the first one and like obviously your training has got to change and taper and you got to kind of go through all that. Can you kind of explain what it's been like going through the second time? Well, I feel like things are happening. Just everything's happening a little bit faster than with the first.

one so I feel like I'm like two to five weeks ahead of how it was with the first one I just got bigger quicker I felt some of the symptoms faster I don't know if you call it symptoms but yeah things that you feel so like my ligaments and stuff but body catching on and I know kind of what to do I can still do so many things in training I can still lift I still feel good I feel strong I can do tons of conditioning but I just do it monitored with the heartburn monitor and I'm not so on days where I don't feel like going training that was more in the beginning of the pregnancy I would go and now I know I know why it's happening and then I just do a 10 minute warm up on a bike and usually I feel ready to go at that point and if I don't I'll do an easier session it's I'm not trying to get

stronger I'm not trying to get fitter but I also feel my body aches if I don't get to train so for example yesterday I hadn't trained and it was a long day yesterday and we're jet lag but I still went to the gym at what like 7 o'clock 630 in the night good on you that's awesome yeah yeah so then I went to the gym I did a little bit of biking and then I felt good and ready to go and use some of the machines and then I know like my body my back just felt better after that and I sleep better I'm not taking a lot of caffeine or I know caffeine really except for year bay every once in a while so it's like Like, I can go train in the evenings now. That's good for you.

So how have you developed that mindset to like still want to train in throughout not just your pregnancy career, but throughout your athletic career leading up to becoming a mother as well? Like how did you develop mindset to want to train while you're feeding a child both internally and externally at this point? I know how it feels if I don't train. And I knew how it felt after I had afraid. I'm not going to start crying.

I'm like hungry right now as well. So just adding that in there. But after I had Freya, I couldn't do anything for a long time. And that was so difficult. And I think every time you can't do something, you appreciate being able to do it. And I think I just, I don't take it for granted that I can train right now. Like not everyone can train fully throughout their pregnancy.

So I feel better. you get the endorphins from training and I saw how good it was for my daughter like she was so strong when I was giving birth and I don't take that for granted either I think it's because I was active I'm not Tia level throughout my pregnancy for sure like far from it

but I am training and I'm doing things that make me feel good and make me feel strong and that's it was really really hard not to be because I'm not just saying do little after I had Freya I did nothing I couldn't take a shower by myself like I lost so much blood and I was so destroyed after giving birth so when I was able to start moving again I think that's why I became so mentally strong is because I embraced the pain being able to push and get to pain like on the bike again or whatever it was it was I was starting to like long for it

yeah how about you cat like obviously you've been in this game for a long time both of you've been doing this for like over 10 years and repeating at the highest level it's super impressive so we would just yeah i think it's a part of my identity like i think i tell myself that i'm a hard worker i think i tell myself i'm a disciplined person i think i tell myself that this is what i do and i think if i don't act in that way i'm not proud of myself like i don't like that version of myself that doesn't go to the gym even though I'm tired. And so I think having kind of like a hindsight and present moment of like knowing that if I go, I will be so proud of myself.

And normally all it takes is a warm up. And so for me, if I'm feeling like I don't want to go to the gym, my only rule for myself is that I go and I warm up. And if I don't feel better after warm up, something is probably going on. Like I'm probably getting sick or there's an injury of some sort. And I think that's a clear sign to me. that like, no, maybe I was right. I should be home.

But I would say 97% of the time, I feel better after warm up. You go through training and I'm so proud. And when that keeps happening, I know that's who I am. I can go train. I will be proud of myself after and I can do that. And so just relying on my discipline and who I am. Great. So right before we wrap out of this, what do we got coming up?

Like, obviously you're coming back to competition this next year and you guys have a lot of things in the works. I know that you've already mentioned the menopause and everything you guys are working on, but can you kind of just tell our guys what's going on coming up? So I am like craving routine and discipline and just normal days and my normal training. We just got past Christmas, New Year, Waterpaloosa. So I'm being home on Monday. And after that, season is on.

I have no travel planned except for going to Vermont for training camps, semis. and hopefully games when when and if everything goes as planned so I'm really excited about the year that we had last year and I'm really proud of what I put into the year so just want to get back to that and I

cannot be proud if I'm not proud of what I did so just like I think that's what I'm craving right now like I want to make sure that I'm going to be happy so just getting back to work and I'm hitting another year let's go I know Yeah, so I'm craving getting back to routine. No, I'm just kidding.

Well, I'm going back home and getting back to routine with my daughter, but right now I'm just excited to see her again. And then, yeah, my due date is early May, like 2nd of May. And then I'm going to see how I feel, how everything goes. I never try to make plans too far ahead. But if I feel, I feel. great body and mind ready to go. I'm, who knows, if I'm just back on the competition floor a year later. Let's go. We'll see. Your comeback performance a few years ago was insane and incredible, and we love you guys. We're excited to see what you guys come coming up. Very excited about your new businesses you guys are launching. Thanks for coming on the Wooop podcast, and we'll catch you guys.

For those listening, we have another guest coming right up, but we know who that is. We'll find out in a second. Awesome stuff from Annie and Katrin. And be sure to keep an eye out for their new women's health program with Dr. Stacey Sims, which will be launching soon. Okay, the Buttery Bros. not done yet as they're about to sit down with the incredible Haley Adams. The CrossFit legend is here to talk about how she is recommitting herself to training and competing after some much needed time off. Let's head back to Miami for the Buttery Bros conversation with Haley Adams.

Welcome Haley Adams to the podcast. First off, before we get any further, I want to know how much sleep you got last night. I got six hours and three minutes, so not that much, but enough to make do, I guess. Were you just making fun of my six hours and 30 minutes? Yes, but six hours is not much for me, so I'm feeling it today. Okay, but what did you do this morning before you got to the podcast? My agent I ran a half marathon. Yeah. I don't get to run much right now. So it was a special occasion.

Just a cool 13 miles to start the day. Yeah, cool. Okay. So when you look at those data points, when you look at six hours of sleep, do you modify anything in your training or how do you use data points like that for your training that day? I wouldn't say I'd change my training too much unless I'm generally feeling really bad and worn down. But I just use it as a tool, you know, just to keep in the back of my mind. But yeah, I try to keep things pretty consistent, but just go off the field. Okay, so where are we at right now in your season, where you're at with your training? I mean, I'm training. I'm, I guess it's off-season training, right? So a lot of strength work, some met cons, conditioning. Yeah, just having fun.

Okay, but you said you're an off-season training, right? So we're going to be going into season pretty soon. Does that mean, like, you're kind of, are you coming back into season? Is that what we're getting at? Yes, I am going to compete this year. You were here to hear first, people. Let's go. She's coming back.

Yeah, I haven't actually said that yet, but I'm going to compete. That's so exciting. I guess don't call it a comeback, but it is a comeback. So here we are. Yeah. Okay, so could you kind of like walk us through this last little while? You took last year off. I know that, like, you took some time away to kind of go realign with whatever your values are and stuff.

Yeah. After I decided to take time off for those first few months, I genuinely thought I was done with CrossFit. I was like, not going back. I'm good. No, thank you. And then as time went on and I kind of started to enjoy fitness again, and I met some really cool people, and they kind of helped me find my love for the sport again and just start enjoying the gym again. And I kind of started to find my fire a little bit again. And I just, yeah, I started to love it. And here we are. It sounds like you took a mental break. Yes. What have you done this year and in this last few months to get mentally stronger and prepare yourself for when it gets dark again in this season? Yeah, I think just building good habits instead of just spending all day in the gym and putting all of my worth into a placement or what everyone else thinks about me or this or that and just knowing that I'm so loved at the end of the day and that, you know,

I'm so much more than CrossFit and just yeah just building that foundation right now I feel like has been the biggest thing for me and I just I know that my time in the gym I'm always going to work hard and that's that but a placement at the end of the day does not define me and there's still bad days like I've had bad days but they're not the same that makes sense so that totally makes sense you've also made some changes yes you want to talk about those sure where you're at right now yeah Yeah, I'm being coached by some really cool people right now. I met them this year and they're kind of the reason why I'm even competing this year. Their name's Josh and Haley Marillo. But yeah, they have essentially, yeah, they're a huge reason why I'm competing and I'm very, very thankful for them. Yeah, we happen to go down there and get to a little bit of training with them as well. Yeah. Like they're known as like stunt men and women and trainers as well.

But like if you gotten any chance to jump into some stunts. I have not done stunts, but they're going to have to teach me. They're the best. They're amazing people. Again, they're part of the reason why I even wanted to compete again because they believed in me and they saw something in me that I didn't see in myself. And they helped me find my love for it again. And I'm just really, really thankful for them.

So cool to see you coming back. We're excited. But if you guys don't know, like me and Haley go way back. Like, she's obviously, she was really good at the team division. And she worked her way up. and qualified for the 2019 games. And it's been really cool to see her progress through her career and really consistent.

She came out to Santa Cruz. We were able to go sailing and stuff. So we've got quite a bit of different things that we've done together. Yeah. So where do you want to get to? Like, what are your goals, like, moving forward? Because I know you've already accomplished so much. Yeah, I think the goal for me isn't necessarily a placement anymore

because I just don't want to put that pressure on myself. I'm always going to try my hardest, and that's just who I am. I'm just going to know that my best at the end of the day is I hope that's good enough. And if it's not, that's okay, too. I'm still going home. The sun's going to rise. My family's going to love me. I'm going to have all these people here that still care about me.

And yeah, so, yeah. Yeah, and I'd say, like, one of your biggest strengths is just your grit and how tough you are. Like, I've seen you be able to, like, shut it down and just, like, go to that dark place. where did you learn that or like what do you think you got that from i don't know where i got that i think i was just born with that but i don't know if it's a good or a bad thing sometimes bad but when i'm bleeding everywhere but yeah i definitely think that is one of my strengths and that's why i think i mean i i hope i still can do as good but just because of that yeah i think one of the best examples of that was you rolling your ankle before the 2020 games and i want to say it looked like the size

of a grapefruit. Yeah, I still have some swelling in that. It still hasn't fully recovered. Her name's Bertha and she's pretty thick still. So, but yeah. Thick with three Cs, yeah. Yes. Okay, so we talked a little bit about things that you've done to develop mental strength. And one of those is you mentioned some habits. What habits are you specifically working on and how do those help you? I think the main thing for me was like my time in the gym is like structured. so I'm in the gym, I'm focused, I'm working hard, but when I leave the gym, I cut it off. I go find something to do, you know, hang out with friends, and I don't sit there and think about what everyone else is doing, or if I need to go do this, or go do an extra workout, or just

constantly stress about it. So, like, again, still working really hard, but the difference for me is cutting it off outside of the gym and just having a life. So is there other things that you've discovered with your time off, like new skills or interests or, like, be talking of a painting? I really like Disney World. I figured that out this year. Big Disney. So anytime I get to go to Disney, I go to Disney World.

Big Star Wars fan, too. So I sit and watch Star Wars all the time. Okay. What's the best Star Wars? Revenge of the Sith. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to have to say the Phantom Menace.

I know that's a very distressed about topic. But I feel like it's the most original of the series. No way. I get hated all a lot for that. No, no way. So, yeah, just lots of things. Like, I used to just, like, sit at home all the time. I wouldn't go out to eat.

Wouldn't go anywhere. I wouldn't hang out with anyone in bed at 8 o'clock. Like, just anxiety, just thinking about everything. But now I've, you know, I allow myself to go and hang out with people and go do things and travel. So life's a lot better. Yeah, it sounds like you have a lot of, a lot more balance a little bit, right? So much more in balance. Yeah.

So have you been traveling? It sounds like, like, like, yeah, actually, I traveled more this year. than I probably ever have. I felt like I did not spend a ton of time at home. I was in L.A. for a while. I went to Florida a bit. I was kind of all over the place. So it was super fun.

Okay. I have some questions about travel. One, Disney World or Disneyland? Disney World. Not even a competition. Not even a competition. And then where did you go this last in 2023? That was like the coolest traveling spot that you went to, favorite location? I actually really liked L.A.

LA. I really liked L.A. What? Yes. I really like that. You're going to love New Jersey. I don't know what it is. I just like the hustle of the city. And I'm just from such a small town that, you know, I've only lived in small places.

So seeing the big city and just everything, I don't know. I just really liked it. Yeah, our boy Julian's a big city boy. Yeah. He's behind the camera and filming us right now for those that are listening in. Okay. And then what's a dream location to try and go to in 20? 24? I'm actually trying to plan a trip after the season this year. I want to go to Bali. Yeah. So

some more overseas. We should do a group seminar in Bali. That's on our bucket list. Oh. You ready? Yeah. Let's go. Let's make it happen. Back to training a little bit. How have you changed your training or have you done anything specifically this year getting ready for the 2024 season? I think the biggest thing for me this year is just having like a structured program instead of just doing 50 workouts today and just whatever so my coaches kind of structure that out for me no I've never really had like a plan for the week or a program so that's been a huge help and just trusting them and so so before you're kind of running off vibes now you have like you're putting your trust in the coach yeah which allows you to kind of shut off like okay I've followed the pan I've done the course yeah now I leave

right are there things that you're doing outside of the gym like favorite recovery things that you're doing I still like to get a ton of sleep that's so a big thing lots of food yeah what do you do for nutrition like what are you looking out for food um like what do i what do i like to eat do you do you do like a type of diet do you do do micros or you just keep it you just eat a lot of food yeah i just eat a lot of food got a few so when did you start doing crossfit you were pretty young yeah i started crossfit at the end of 2015 2015 yeah you know as you've gone on i know that like a lot of young girls coming up in the sport look up to you look up to the people above you But one of the things you got to look out for is, like, getting burnt out on doing this stuff.

So what would you say to, like, that younger generation coming up that is, like, aspiring to get to where you've gotten to? Well, the first thing I would say is that if you are a young, you know, kid and you want to do well in CrossFit, I say play sports. I played every single sport there was, gymnastics, softball, soccer, swimming, cross country. That's why I think I was able to excel in CrossFit really fast. So definitely say stay in sports. But also just have fun with it. You shouldn't have some crazy expectation to come and, you know, make the games your first year or whatever. Like, if you're having fun and you're being safe and have a coach and just enjoying it, I think that's the main thing.

You know, and don't put everything you have into it, you know, make sure, yeah, you're still being a kid, you know? Moving forward into this next season, like, I know that you have your own goals and things like that. You say that you're not as concerned about the placement and everything like that. But, like, at the end of the season, what do you feel like would be, like, the cherry on top? Like, what do you want to see at the end of this? Honestly, I'm very curious to see what happens this year because I feel like if I'm happy and I'm healthy, I might just do better than I did because I was not having fun last year and was definitely not fueled. So I don't know. I feel like, I don't know, I'm just curious to see how a place.

It might be better. It might be worse. No certain placement. No, is training still fun? Yes. Okay, so you still enjoy that? I have had the most fun training these last few months than I have since I started CrossFit. Oh, wow. Yeah. I love it again.

And how did you reignite that fire, do you think? And is it just because you took time away? I think it's big. I mean, again, Josh and Haley have helped me a ton to find that fire again and just have fun in the gym. Yeah, there's not one certain thing. I just really started to love the process again. and but like when I started when I was 15 that's awesome yeah that's our big thing with fitness is very much that like for me when you're a little and I'm raising two kids when they go to school

and they come home I'm like what was the best part of the day and they're like recess yeah and for me fitness is recess it's where I get to go reset have a good time and have a smile and for sure if you if you're overtraining overthinking everything yeah it can become a grind and not fun even though this is your job if you can find fun in the process you have a lot longer runway yeah and and not even to mention at the end of 2022 i was in so much pain like my body was like going through it like you barely do an air spot about pain and my body right now like i don't you have to warm up that's not good but i feel so much better so i feel like taking a year off helped me physically as well like added on years to my career so you definitely want to warm up

as you get i know i know but i feel so much better so much better okay so let's just jump into like a little bit of your whoop and like how do you track your necessarily your sleep but maybe your recovery and like do you use what your recovery is depending on going into the tough training session or if you're going to step on the gas or like maybe like take another day or how do you how do you use it i don't really change training too much but you can definitely see like through the week like towards friday and saturday where the number starts to get lower because you know you start off monday strong sundays rest day you're in the green like it's all good and then you you just see it slowly start to climb through the week. So I mean, I feel like my training

kind of follows that anyway. Like Saturdays are not as much volume whereas like Mondays are a ton of volume when you're super recovered. So I feel like my training schedule kind of follows that anyway because you know as the week goes on, my recovery goes down. So yeah, we live in the red over here. Oh gosh. Yeah. That's not good. Yeah. Not good. Just because we're like traveling so much and we're trying to like bounce around between a lot of the activities we're doing, you know, but obviously we will we look at trying to recover as best we can. No, same, same. He just straight up line.

I've been in the green, except for Wadapalooza. For the last two months, it's been a good recovery score. Is there any other metrics that you used on that device, though, that you're looking at? I actually really like looking at my resting heart rate. I've noticed a pattern through that. So, like, if I'm up late or have a late meal, I'll notice that it's higher. Or if I'm, like, hit a really, really hard workout that day, it's higher as well. Whereas, like, on Sunday night or wake up Monday morning, it's super low.

So I've actually really been interested in looking at my resting heart rate because it can change due to a lot of things. Yeah, there's a lot of factors that lead into how you're there. And the lower it is, the more you're able to recover. Yeah, HRV as well. Cool. Okay. All right. Well, we have, for those listening in, there are like 100, 200 people that have lined up to hang out and get to meet you.

They have, I think, some more questions that they're going to do. And you're doing some signing. So we'll probably wrap out of this. And for those listening, we're going to run on over and try and catch Noel. Olson behind the scenes. But that concludes this portion of the podcast. Thank you to the buttery bros for guest hosting, as well as our three amazing guests, Annie Thoris daughter, Katrin Davis, daughter, and Haley Adams. If you enjoyed this episode of the WOOP podcast, be sure to leave a rating or review. Check us out on social at WOOP at Will

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