WHOOP Podcast - Willson Contreras & Wilyer Abreu on Handling the Pressure of October Baseball

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

In this episode of the WHOOP Podcast, WHOOP Global Head of Human Performance and Principal Scientist Dr. Kristen Holmes sits down with Boston Red Sox stars Willson Contreras and Wilyer Abreu to talk about October Baseball. Contreras and Abreu fill our audience in on the trust, resilience, and team-first mentality behind the Red Sox’s remarkable season. Contreras reflects on the leadership lessons he’s carried from winning a championship in 2016 and the importance of creating a clubhouse where every player feels valued. Abreu shares how the team stayed connected through an early-season struggle, ultimately finding its rhythm into a historical 15 game win streak. This episode gives an exclusive look at the intensity of playing in Boston, the mindset required to perform in October, and why preparation, sleep, recovery, and consistency are critical to sustaining success across a long season. From navigating pressure and adversity to building a winning culture, Contreras and Abreu offer their expertise on what it takes to perform and recover at the highest level.(00:46) Meet The Red Sox: Willson Contreras & Wilyer Abreu(02:05) A Winning Culture Starts With Teamwork(04:20) A Slow Start To The Red Sox Season(09:26) The Pressure of Playing in Boston(10:54) The Sweep: Season Turnaround in June(14:19) Winning Starts In The Clubhouse(17:16) Longevity Throughout The Season(20:23) Abreu on His Trade and Red Sox Debut(24:41) Contreras on Leadership and Work Ethic(25:50) What To Look Forward To In October(31:22) Sleep and Recovery’s Impact on Team CultureSupport the showFollow WHOOP:Sign up for WHOOP Advanced LabsTrial WHOOP for Freewww.whoop.comInstagramTikTokYouTubeXFacebookLinkedInFollow Will Ahmed:InstagramXLinkedInFollow Kristen Holmes:InstagramLinkedInBuy Aligned by Dr. Kristen Holmes: Follow Emily Capodilupo:LinkedIn 

So last year, things ended with the Yankees. Is there anything that stayed with you from that experience that you bring into this October? Telling you, it's not a different league in recognizing what game you have to play. It's going to be huge. This year, we're more prepared. We're a complete team that's our advantage. We knew that we can win against anybody. It was just magical, you know, this 15-game win streak.

Was there anything, any moment that you can think about, that kind of change that church. That was amazing turnaround because anybody was believing in us. The magic came. We won seven in a row and we didn't even thinking about it. That's our advantage as right now. Wilson, Contreras, welcome. Thank you. And Will you're a brayu, I want to make sure you pronounce that right?

Welcome to the podcast. Yeah, thank you. This is fun. October is upon us. How are you feeling? I mean, I feel really, really good and very excited for this year and this playoff. This is a really good experience, you know, so I'm very excited. This is my second one, so I'm very, you know, motivated for what's going to bring it the playoff for us this year.

So hopefully it's going to be a really good postseason and, you know, hopefully we can win. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. And that was your energy. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for the opportunity and also glad to be in Boston. I think everything worked out for the best. We are glad to have you, just to be really clear.

And I'm really excited to be in the playoff with this team. Yeah. I mean, that was the reason I came here. I knew that from day one we had the talent. Yeah. I never doubt about it. I have my guy on them inside. I know.

You guys are buddies, eh? Yeah. Yeah. Both from Venezuela? Yes. Well, from Venezuela. We stick together from day one in spring training, learning from each other, and I'm proud to be his teammates.

So, Wilson, you've had an epic career. You've won a world championship with the Cubs, which was, I think it broke like a 108-year drought or something insane, right? Yes. What was it like winning a world championship? And what do you, I suppose, what did you take from that experience that you can bring to the Red Sox. Man, that was a blessed year.

Got called up in June, and then five months later, I was winning the World Champ with the Cups. It's 2016, right? 2016. It was a huge year, blessed year. And also a fantastic year for me and my family. So I was, I'm thankful with God because I've lived everything in baseball as so far. And what I learned from then until now is that we need to be as a few.

family. The team needs to be the family. We need to make feel everybody part of the part of the team because it can happen that you might be on the team, but you won't feel part of it. So that was kind of my theory this year, just make everybody feel part of the team. Even though if you just call up guy, I mean, I'm going to come and embrace you the best way I can. And that's what good teams does. Like, good chemistry, good family, and that's why we win baseball. I love that. You win the game in the locker room first. And, you know, I feel like it's easy to say that, right?

It's easy to kind of say, oh, we're a family, you know, we're thinking about culture and all of that. But to actually make that happen, it takes time. It takes time. It takes time. Especially, I mean, I just got trade here. Yeah. I just got a trade in December. And in February, I was trying to meet everybody, like to get to know everybody.

And of course, if you play against me, you want to have a different perspective. So I was making sure that everybody knew that I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy. I'm a good teammate. I'm a good teammate. I care about my teammate. That is not what I show on the field, right? So it took time for us to get the family to create the chemistry.

But it's normal in every team. Some things takes time. Yeah. So you started the season kind of slow. It was, I think, two and eight, you had a managerial change. What was your perspective, will you're, you know, kind of early in the season when, you know, everyone's doubting the socks, you know, what was the energy inside the clubhouse? How did you think about your role?

The beginning of the season was tough for us, you know. We were losing a lot of games. We wasn't playing that good. But we all know, we knew that we had a good team, that we, believe in us, we trust each other. I mean, at the beginning of the season, we got a lot of time, you know, to figure out what is going on, what part of the game we can be better, what is working, what is not working. So we got a lot of time to figure it out. And I think we did a really good job doing that, you know, we had the chance to figure it out, know, what's

what we was mistaken and how we can, you know, fix it. So I think good part of this thing is, you know, we believe in us. We trust each other. So if we couldn't do the job, we know we got a guy behind us that can do it, you know. So if I can do it, I know I trust Wilson that he can do it. So that's the, you know, the big part, the good thing about this team that we trust each other. And I know that if I can do it, I know Wilson can do it, Trevor can do it, Raphael can do it, everybody can do it. So I think that was the key for us, you know, trust each other.

like if I couldn't, if I couldn't do the job, I know the guy behind me can do it. So that was, you know, big thing for us to, you know, start to winning as a group. And not only like in individual, like, we don't want to do like, I want to do my job. I want to do, I want to do good me and don't care about anything else. So we care about the team, we care about, you know, all the teammates and try to win the game as a unit, you know, as a team and not only like individual. You can feel when, as a fan, you know, and I watch and play, you can just feel the team first energy. It's really powerful. Yeah, I mean, the energy was there from day one.

They were so good in there, which is, that was the difficult part. Of course, dealing with the chance of sell the team is hard because you're playing to win. You're not playing to lose. Nobody plays to lose. No, of course not. But thinking about winning can be distracting. You're on the field and they start chanting, sell the team. It's like, you have to take that personal.

Like, you have to. You're part of the team, like winning team. You have to find a way to win games. And of course, we went through my manager change in April. It's like, not that I didn't have time. wasn't when I talked about it, like on there, because I know that when they make change, you have to show up the next day and keep doing your job. Exactly, yeah.

And that's how I took it. It's like, okay, I was, I came here when Alex Cora was here and I was super pumped to play with him. Yeah. Now that we are like three weeks in the season, it's not here. What should I do? And then I was like, okay, show up the next day and keep doing your job because at the end of the day, we're employees.

And we're a team and we have to do our job as a team. and for the fans and for the city. How did your experience and leadership help Chad in that transition? There's... Chad, of course, the new manager. Yeah, yeah, there's difference between those two. Alex Corr brings experience, brings pressure because just only by his presence. That's what I mean earlier this year.

When I said, yeah, it seems like a guy was having pressure, but only by Alex Carr's present, which is normal. He's a winning manager. Of course, yeah. And if it was a younger guy, I was like, I want to play for that guy. I want to pick his brain. I want to do. I want to ask.

Things happen. Chad came in. More late, like, an easygoing guy. He's like, he won't talk much, but he'll give message to the team. And that's when I feel like the player was like they got a little bit like loose. When I mean loose is that they could be themselves because they could be themselves with Alex, but they decide not to. But then the team will start playing better.

Everybody came up together in mid, no, like the end of June, which was kind of late, but we had a great run, which allowed us to come back to playoff. You mentioned it, Boston being a tough place to play. And as a girl who's grown up in New England, I understand how difficult as Boston fans can be. It's kind of a blessing and a curse in some ways. But how do you think about Boston? Because obviously we love our teams. You know, and it comes from a good place when we do insane things.

I love Boston. I love Boston. I love my teammates. I love the team. I love the city and the fans, of course. But it's a hard place to play. Yeah. A lot of pressure.

Yeah, there's a lot of pressure, but you have to find a way to put your mindset in a different spot. Right? Because you're not, if you start playing with the pressure of the fans, you won't, I feel like you won't develop yourself in Boston, right? Of course. You have to have personality. You have to know how to ignore some, some fans that are different. But at the same time, I mean, fans here expect you to play,

expect you to play at your game one, like you, you a game. Every. From day one until the last day. And I noticed that when I was hurt on my leg, and nobody knew. I mean, only the manager, and I didn't run to first base. I got booed. I was like, wow. Which is, I mean, I liked it because they're involved in the game.

Yeah. And they're part of the game and they will play for them. So they're allowed to boo me as much of the one. I love that mindset. That's great. So let's talk about June. You guys have this insane turnaround. And, you know, again, just from someone from the outside looking in, I mean, it was just

magical. You know, it was 15 game win streak, you know, with, you know, I'm probably. right? Talk a little bit about, you know, was there anything like any moment that you can think about that kind of change that trajectory or did just winning beget winning? Yes. I think for me, everything starts when we sweep the Yankees, like in the four-game series in Boston, like here in Fenway. I think everything started there. Like, you know, on that series, everything felt like. different, like the fans, the team, all the energy, all the emotions started in there after we swept the Junkies. And then I think the next series, I think we lost one game, but the energy was there. You know, we played good. We did everything that we can to win that game, but we're still losing it. But after that,

you know, the magic came to the team. You know, we started to win. We won. Then we was, I don't know, seven in a row, and we didn't even thinking about it. You know, we just, yeah, we was going out there, playing, you know, giving 100%, giving everything on the field. We was doing everything.

Everything was on our side, pitching, hitting, you know, everything. So that was amazing. It was a magic that, you know, I think it was God that brought that to us. And that was amazing turnaround because anybody was believing in us. Nobody think that we was able to play in the playoff because of the way that we was playing at the beginning of the season. but as a team, we all knew that we had a great team

that we can win, you know. And, you know, I think everything started with that four-game series against the Yankee that we souped them. Yeah, for me too. That was a start of everything. I mean, we swept the Yankees and then we lost the next, I think, in game five,

no. Something like that. And then once we sweep the Yankees, we knew that we can win against anybody. I love that. But also, besides that, we recognized the game that we had to play at the time. Because we weren't hitting homers. We weren't hitting for a slot. And then we were doing everything to get on base, to move the runner over, to get runs.

And when you recognize and you're able to recognize what game you have to play in that moment, that's what helped the most. besides that all the team was in the same page pitching staff offensive hitting staff and the coaches were in the same page of course there's a lot of talking in between those games but I'm really glad that we were able to recognize the game they were to play at the time yeah just as a veteran you know someone who's just experienced pretty much everything baseball has to offer at this point what is there anything that feels different in this clubhouse

and relative to all the other experiences you've had with other teams? I mean, yeah, I mean, I've been playing with guys that are willing to listen and they're guys that are not willing to listen. And what I've found these places is that everybody wants to learn, everybody wants to get better, they ask questions, and they're willing to listen. And that makes everything easier because I can come to anybody and just have a good conversation about baseball or different stuff and do have no problem with it.

Also, there is a lot of supporting because I know what struggle feels like. And when the season started, there was a guy that was struggling the most. And I always bowed by his shoulder. I say, hey, keep playing. You'll be good. You'll be fine.

It's a long season. They'll get caught up in the trap of the numbers because it's easier to fall in that trap in May. I mean, there's a lot of, like, four months to go. You're a good leader, Wilson. I mean, I tried to. I try. But I know what struggle feels like.

I mean, in 24, 25, I don't know, I can remember. I started the season 9-4-89 in April. I was struggling. I was eating like 0-60, something like that. Oh, my God. And that's deep. So I knew what the message was going to be for that guy. Yeah.

Your on-based percentage this year is insane. I mean, yes, I tried to make my adjustments, now the strikes on a little better. And, of course, the hip-by pitches helps. I was about to say that. I mean, do you just get in the way? What's happening there? Everybody has a different biomechanic of hitting,

and everybody has their thing, right? And some guys see the ball better far from the plate, some guys see the ball better on the plate. And when I'm closer to the play, I see the ball a lot better. And I have my biomechanics one way. So this is my analysis. anatomy and this is the way I swim.

I can't change that because that what brought me to the big leagues, right? Totally. Yeah, sometimes I get the blame of getting hit by pitch, which is normal. It's just too close to the plate. Too close to the plate. And, I mean, there's a lot of risks about it, but it's not fun. It hurts. Yeah, a lot.

Allie. It looks like it hurts. Yeah. It hurts. If you get a hit by a fastball at 95. I mean. I mean, I played field hockey and you guys have seen hockey. And, you know, the ball travel is pretty fast.

So, yeah, and you're exposed. So, yeah, I've been, you know, hitting the shin and the toe. And, you know, it just, yeah, it hurts in the face. But, yeah. Wilson. You have been an all-star four times. Part of my role at Woop, I work with players, you know, kind of who are on the back end of their career or, you know, have been in the league for a long time. And, you know, it's about how do we extend the season?

You know, Jose Batista, I work with him toward the back end of his career when he was going to the Mets. And, you know, he was on Woop for a really long time. And, you know, what I find really interesting is that, you know, you have to be more intentional in terms of how you live your life. And it's a little easier when you get older, you know, there's less distraction probably and you learn how to filter that out. But what do you, you know, what's your, you've had this incredibly long career, you know. what do you attribute that to? And I feel like there's so much left in the tank for you. Yeah.

You're like, just going, yes, no, for sure. Nobody, nothing came easier for me. I mean, I spent seven years in minor leagues. But I knew what I was trying to do. I knew what I had to do to pull my parents in a better spot. My responsibility with baseball come from there because nothing came easier to me. And then when it came, I feel like I had to do.

to get a huge hole of it because I don't take anything for granted for granted. I really feel like if you respect yourself as a ball player, you respect your career, you're going to have a good career. It doesn't matter who you are or how much talent do you have. But if you know what to do with your recovery, what time you have to sleep, if you, your breakfast, for me, breakfast is the most important meal. Yeah. People listen. Listen up right now. Yes, I can fall asleep at 3 a.m., but it has to wake up at 8. to get my breakfast and then go back to bed. That's one thing that I learned during the minor career. Of course, I saw a video of Ron Washington speaking about it,

and I was in AA by the time. I was like, okay, this is important, this is going to help me throughout my career. And I've always done it since then. Incredible. And, I mean, knowing your strength, knowing what you need to work on with the trainers, with using whoop, using different type of tools that there's going. going to help you with your recovery and your career. I mean, you have to take advantage. Yeah. They're here for us. Right. And if you want to send your career, you have to use some

technology to help. Yeah. Yeah. I think that the tools that are available to athletes now is, yeah. It's just really extraordinary, you know, and an incredible opportunity to just enhance the recovery, especially 165 days in or like whatever it is. Like, it's just, the demands on the body and the mind and, you know, are just enormous. It's a huge roller coaster of emotions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course. I mean, going up and down and taking planes every three days, five days. It's not easy.

No. Well, like I say, if it was here to help you, just take advantage of it. I mean, if you think about the old school players or the back then, they didn't have any technology, and they still play for 18, 20 years. Right. I mean, I'm not going to say I want to play 20 years because I'm 34, but there's some technologies that I help to help everybody. Yeah, absolutely. William, you have put together your most complete offensive season. Talk a little bit, just reflect maybe on, you know, how you got here and how you feel about the success. I feel incredible. Like Wilson, I spent seven years in the minor leagues too. I play with Houston Astros in the minor leagues.

I got trade here to the Red Sox in 2022. I was in Dolly. I have to just admit that I was a little sad. Vasquez. Yeah. I was a fan. But then that was the trade that I came here. So, yes.

But we are so grateful to have you. Yeah. You have to give up something to the way something like this. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I know Vasquez was, you know, a big guy for the fans here.

Yeah. He played here for a long time. Yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, he's a good guy. Yes. And by the time, maybe nobody understands that trade because it was in the minor league still. By the time, then I made my debut in 23. Home run, first pitch.

No. That was you. That was you. I was so. I struck out in my first abat, yes. I mean, I was facing Burlander, so, you know. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah. I got a good excuse, you know. So you're actually playing the Astros? Yes. I made my debut against the Astros. I mean, yes. Wow. So in 23. That was hard. Wow, that's hard. Yeah.

I think that was a big plan for Alex to make me. To see how you respond. They viewed against my old team, but it was good. It was a really good experience for me to know, you know, the opportunity to make my debut against the team that gave me the opportunity to be a professional baseball player. Yeah. So that was a really critical experience for me. You know, that's something that I'm going to always remember. but, you know, in 24 was my first full year.

And I'm glad that I had a, you know, my first full year and have that success and won my first goal glove. As a right field, it was cool for me, you know, but I was very excited and very proud of myself for what I accomplished at that moment because it was the first rookie. on, I don't know, 70-something years to win the gold glove for Red Sox. It's amazing. So I was very proud of this. That accomplished, you know. Now, last year I was able to, you know, repeat that I won my second gold glove. And this year, you're going to be the third.

Hopefully, yes. Hopefully, yes. And, yeah. It's incredible. And, you know, it's been a really good experience these three years for me, you know. Playing in the WBC this year, too, with Wilson that we won, you know, start in this year. It's been, you know, a blessing for us.

I think, you know, he's been, how can say, like you super after your new career highs. Yes, he got his new career highs and homers, RBIs, me too. It's insane. So it's been a really good year for us. So I'm very happy to having him here, you know, as a teammate, he's, you know, he's been a lot. Do you look up to this guy? He's been helping a lot, yeah, to the team.

I try. I try. I mean, especially, I'm a winner. I want to win. He knows that. And when you have good guys around you, it's easier to lead or talk to them. Like I say, when you have players that are willing to listen and learn, it's way easier. But at the other hand, if you watch the amount of work that he put himself in either hitting or defense, it's not a surprise that he's about to win his third golf. He's really committed to. getting to be better every single day in both sides of the plate. And that's why you have success. I mean, it's not a secret. If you work hard with intelligence and you are very detailed about your work, good thing happens. I love that. I can just talking to you both, I can feel the humility and gratitude. Like it's so beautiful. Yeah, I mean, yeah, nothing is given to us. We have to learn it. But at the same time, you have to keep our self-humble because now we're here. One year or two, one might not be here.

So that's why you have to be the same guy every single day and the same person, either on the field and off the field. So, Willier October. So last year, things ended with the Yankees. When you were walking out of Yankee Stadium last year, what stayed with you? What did you bring into the season? A lot of stuff you got to let go of, right? As athletes, we just got to turn the page and folks on what? what's next? Is there anything that stayed with you from that experience that you bring into this

October? This year we're more prepared. We learned from our mistake last year. I think that's the beautiful part of this that you can learn from your mistake and try to, you know, be better improve yourself, improve what makes you feel there on that specific moment and try to fix it and be better. I think we're more, this year we're a complete team that we can, you know, do everything, you know, I think we've got a better pitching that's going to help in us a lot, because in the post-season or playoff is that's the most important thing, the pitchers. You know, if the pitchers are healthy and they're doing their job, everything is easier. Yeah.

Because that's the most important thing in the playoff, have the pitchers doing their job, and, you know, especially like they're healthy. Yeah. On the other side, on the offensive side, you know, there's a lot of ways that we can, you know, create runs, errors, stolen base, you know, everything can happen. But I think the most important thing is the pitching size. And I think our team has the best pitching stuff that all the fans going to see in the postseason. and I think that's, you know, that's our advantage. So right now, they're pitching size,

and I think they're gonna do a really good job because I know what they can do. Yeah, I love that. Wilson, as a leader on the team veteran, are there guys on the 25-man roster who have never played in a playoff before? Like, and have never played in October? Or does everyone have experience on the team?

I'm pretty sure that most of them have played in October. Yeah. I mean, some of them will have them play in October. But I always say this about playoffs. Okay, good, yeah. So the regular season is a big league, right? It's the big leagues. Right.

When you go to the playoff, it's on another lift on level. It's like the energy goes up, the atmosphere goes up, everything goes up. Yeah. I mean. Just amplified. Pitchers executing great pitches, hitting, amazing pitchers. Yeah. Hitting, taking amazing pitches or hitting balls that use, they're not hitable.

And for me, like, the most important thing in playoffs is to recognize what game we have to play, which game you have to play against, would say we want to face this guy, right? I don't want to name, no names. And we know that we have to take short to the ball and we have to be opposite field or don't pull it because you're going to hit a groundball, though, play all the stuff. If we had this guy on base that can run, why not bunting to try to make it? to start. Staying ahead of the game.

Thinking ahead of the game and taking advantage of what their game is giving you. I mean, it's another, I'm telling you, it's another different league and recognizing what game you have to play is going to be huge. Gosh. Yeah. I think, too, the, you don't have to let your emotions go to, like, up too much. You have to, you know, stay in the same, same level that you play for the whole year. Of course, it's different.

There's more emotion. There's more, you know, louder. And you can hear, like, anything on the field. Wow. And you have to stay, like, you know, the same level. You don't have to, your stress consume you. Because then you're going to, the game's going to speed you up. And then everything's going to, like, something's going to happen.

And you don't even know what to do because you're too excited. And, you know, you don't have that anticipation of the play or, you know, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and that's, it's really important what he's saying. Also, that's why you have to practice the situation before it happens. Yeah. Like even in practice.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just practice it because when the situation comes and you're about to hit, you know, what you need to do. And does it cause you by surprise. Yeah. And that's like, I guess that's flow, right? Like, you know, when you're anticipating what's happening next and you're like, you feel ahead of the game.

Like you feel like the game is coming to, you know, really you're not having to force it. Yeah, that's always the most amazing feeling. You mentioned the emotion, the highs and the lows, and, you know, I suppose you become expert at managing that over the course of 160, you know, game season. How, you know, when I think about this as a kind of a psychophysiologist, you know, which is my training, I know from the data that our emotions and our capacity to lead and our mindset are all highly related to how we recover, how we sleep. So how do you think about those relationships?

And have you noticed that you're more stable emotionally when you're better recovered and that you're really able to, you know, take those opportunities for sleep? And, you know, how do you think about that? Yeah, I think during a lot of things like this, you notice that when you don't sleep, the way you should sleep, you get irritated a lot, like quicker. Your patient is just... And sometimes you don't want to talk to anybody. I know as a parent.

Or either like the media is here. You want to talk to you. You don't, you're not in the mood. It's like, I don't know what's going on with me today, but I didn't sleep well. I don't want to talk to anybody, which is, I mean, this is a reality. Right. Then when you sleep, you're eight hours, 10 hours, you'll feel a lot better. Yeah.

You can focus a lot better. Yeah. You're not as tired. And you will recover. So, yeah, I mean, those two goes together. And I think you both have this down. You know, I mean, you're obviously, you understand the importance of recovery. You're building that into your life.

Has that influenced your teammates the way you approach the details of your downtime? Being honest, I haven't talked about it with my teammates because, I mean, at this time, we know what we should do to get better and respect the game. Yeah. And that's part of respecting the games. I love that. If you're sleeping well, you're respecting your teammates. You're respecting the work that we're all putting as a team. If you're doing different, that's your main issue.

That's your problem. But what I want to see on the field is that I want you to be able to play 100%. Right. So you've got to take care of it. Yeah, I have to take care of it. That's the way I think. Of course, I could come to anybody and talk about specific things. but I think those are more like personal stuff, personal things to handle.

But they impact the team profoundly. Yeah, for sure. I mean, but yeah, I mean, being honest, I have not. Yeah, I was just curious, like how much of those conversations happen, you know. And I, you know, part of me feels like it should happen more at the professional level. Because I think that there's advantages to be had, you know, when people really understand the value, you know, and what a competitive advantage it is. I think how successful you two are.

Yeah, I think that don't worry about it. Don't have me worry about it because I know that we have a great guy. The guys are taken care of. And they know what they need to do to get better on the field. And they're not. They're different than what I have in the past. And I like that from them. I love that.

A lot of them are family guys. When you're a family guy, you want to sleep early. So that's one thing that I noticed in this thing. you got three kids I know Oh that's different That's different Your wife had twins too

So you had just the double Mamie Yeah I got three kids So Damn Sometimes they Sleep late And wake up early

Yeah I can't thank you both enough For coming to chat With us today You guys are so fun To watch And bring so much beautiful energy to Boston.

So just as a lifelong fan, thank you, but truly exceptional careers and cannot wait to continue to follow your success. And good luck in October. Thank you, appreciate. Thank you for the opportunity. I have fun. It was a great conversation.

We could have go for a long time. I know. I have so many more questions. But no, I would do this anytime. Thank you so much. I appreciate that so much. Thank you, Wilson. Thank you so much for the invitation here.

I had a great time here, you know, with this conversation. It was really cool. Very happy to be here and very glad to, you know, you invite me here. And any time I can be here. I appreciate that. Well, we are right across the street. So if you ever need anything, we're here. Thank you.

Yeah, thank you.