Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Astrology's Effect in Relationships (w/ Nathan Mitchell)

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

Actor Nathan Mitchell (The Boys, Ginny & Georgia) joins Nicole to discuss being in relationship limbo, and why it’s actually great to be on the same page about not being on the same page. He shares a date gone horribly wrong when his date air-humped a stranger, a make-out session that left him bloody, and he addresses the theories that he is AI. Nicole shares her experience with a man who thought a picture of a sandwich was an appropriate thirst trap. Plus, Nathan explains the importance of astrology in dating and gives Nicole a deep-dive birth chart reading that uncovers her karmic weight.Watch this episode on our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@WhyWontYouDateMePodcastTake our listener survey and shape the future of the podcast!Support this podcast and get discounts by checking out our sponsors:Jones Road: Use code DATEME at jonesroadbeauty.com to get a Free Shimmer Face Oil with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeauty #adWayfair: Way Day is THE sale to shop the best deals in home – we’re talking up to 80% OFF with fast and FREE shipping on everything! Head to Wayfair.com April 25th through the 27th to shop Way Day.Cash App: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/3v6r90n6 #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Discounts and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.Follow:All Links: linktr.ee/whywontyoudatemeTour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenYouTube: @WhyWontYouDateMePodcastTikTok: @whywontyoudatemepod Instagram: @nicolebyerX: @nicolebyerThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Why Won't You Date Me? via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So we're going on a boat for the day. There's a guy there. Very attractive guy. Like, women love him, right? He's gay. So, like, it doesn't, you know. And so she's talking to him and like, you know, just like a little touchy and everything. I'm like, yeah, okay.

He's lying down on, like, the lower deck. Uh-huh. And he's just kind of like, he's just kind of like, right? With a couple other people. And she crawls over to him. Uh-huh. Over him. Uh-huh.

And starts air-humping him. And there were two, there was like a guy, another guy and two other girls, like, in the same space. Uh-huh. And both those girls looked at me and they're like, We are so sorry. Me and my friends love to take trips together. And we took this trip to Joshua Tree. And I was like, I don't want to stay in a hotel.

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Me, Nicole Byer, was trying to figure out why I was so single, even though you could come on my nightstand and tell me it was an aspirin. My guest today is a talented actor. You know from kicking asses, Black Noir on The Boys, and the ultimate cool dad in Ginny and Georgia. I'm so excited. He's here. D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D. Hi-Hi.

Hi-hi-hi. How you doing? I'm good. How are you? I am good. I am good. Okay, so here is my question. I usually start off most episodes.

Are you dating? Are you single? Do you never want to say? Oh, my God. That's a good question. There's options. There are so many options. I mean, I have been slash was dating someone.

I don't know what the status of that actually is now. Basically, she's great. She's wonderful. But yeah, we've been, you know, going on dates. and somewhere, you know, like a few days ago, she was like, yeah, we're just talking about our philosophies or our approach to life. And she's like, yeah, I don't know if this is going to work.

And I was like, hmm. But like I also agreed because we just saw things in different ways. So we, yeah, so, you know. So you're just in limbo about it. I mean, not, I mean, yes, because she was like, yeah. And then there's one one evening where she just was like, you know, in just in the fields about it. And I was like, okay, so I guess this is it.

And then, so I thought that was that. And then she was like, sorry, like, you know, we don't have to like end it like this. So I'm like, you know, you want to. And I'm like, yeah, sure, yeah. And so, you know, we had, you know, another great evening or day. And then I, you know, left to travel and stuff. And so was it an ending? Is it up in the air?

Is it undecided? I don't know. To be continued dot, dot, dot, dot. It really does. But who, like, really, it could go any direction. I don't know. The world is in control, I guess. But I do like that you guys had the conversation that you're like, no.

And then you're like, mm, maybe. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think either of us knows. But I do like that you're on the same page with not knowing.

At least you're on the same page. about not being on the same page. I think that's the key. Yes, because most of the time it would be like, one person's like, I'm in it. And the other person's like, wow. And then it's like, who, oh, oh. The other person's like, we were in something?

Yeah. That's the funniest when you were like, wait, this was a date. Oh. Are you flirting? What is happening? Damn. Wait, I have a question. What's one of the worst dates you've been on?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, hydrate before you answer. So, there's a girl I knew for probably like years, you know, but not like, you know, I'd see her, like, you know, here and there and occasionally. We went on a couple dates. And then I decided to invite her and bring her to, my friends and I were going on a boat. Right? So we're going on a boat for the day. Hey, come, come join us.

And so she comes. There's a guy there, very attractive guy. Like, women love him, right? He's gay, so, like, it doesn't, you know. So he doesn't reciprocate. He does not, unfortunately. He's like, thank you and goodbye. But, yeah, he's just, he's just that kind of guy, right?

And so she's talking to him and, like, you know, just like a little touchy and everything. I'm like, yeah, okay. Wait, this is a woman that you invite that you're seeing on this boat and she's touchy-feely with another man that she doesn't know is gay? I think she knew, no, she knew he was gay. Oh, she knew he was gay, right? And so I was like, okay, you know. And then the day, the day goes on a little more. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm feeling with a little, little ways.

Look, we're all drinking and stuff. He's lying down on, like, the lower deck. And he's just kind of like, he's just kind of like, right, with a couple other people. And she crawls over to him. Uh-huh. Over him. Uh-huh. And starts air-humping him.

and there were two there was like a guy, another guy and two other girls like in the same space and both those girls looked at me and they're like, we are so sorry and I was like, at that point

I'm like, I'm not even mad. Like this is, this is too much. This is, okay, cool. So we've established. This is a thing that you do. You'll just air on people you just met. Yeah.

Yeah. She was like, but he's gay. And I'm like, listen, if I met like someone you knew and they were a lesbian and I went and I did that, that would not be cool. No. For her, it's like, well, he's gay. It's like, fine. And I'm like, yeah. I love that she was like, it's fine.

I'm a fun time. Everyone loved me. Yeah, yeah. I love when someone doesn't see the error of their ways and like refuses to. I don't know if it was a full refusal. I don't know if it was a full refusal. It sounds like it is to make. But it was, that was her perspective.

And I was like, yeah, I don't think if the tables were turned, that would fly. Don't think it would be appropriate. Do not. What's another bad date? Oh, God. That one was fun. This is just like an anecdote. But, you know, like sometimes, not sometimes.

There's only having once. But I remember, like, making out with someone once. And then, like, afterwards, like my, like, forearms were bloody because she like duck her nails like so deeply into me. That's not where I thought that was going. You ever make out with someone and then you're bloody after? No. No, Nathan, no.

Never happened. Okay, well, you know. So wait, you made out with someone. It was like, it was so into it that they just dug their nails into you? They did. Wow. Yeah, it was, it was special. And has this only happened once?

I think so. Oh, okay. I think it was the ones. I think it was the ones. It's so funny to preface this with, you can't ever make out with somebody so hard? That they etched themselves into your skin. Wow.

Did you see that girl again? I don't think so. I don't think so. But like not, not honestly, it wasn't not even. It wasn't the drawing of the blood? No, no, honestly, no. Not, that's not, I'm not saying that's something that I'm into. But I think it was just, you know, you're just going in two different directions.

Yeah. Here's a question. When you started having your, like, TV appearances, when they started rolling out, were people real thirsty? Were they DMing you? Were they like, yum, yum, yum. I mean, there was, there was, I think season two of Jenny and Georgia was, like, when the DMs started. And what's the thirstiest thing somebody has said to you?

God damn. Someone, I think someone sent me, like, a fairly erotic poem. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I was like, okay, all right. The thing I like about that is that took effort, but in the back of my brain, I'm like, is this bitch sending this to everybody?

Is it just a copy and paste? And there do be those people. And you're like, I see you. You know. You're sending this to everybody. I'm not special. No, no. See, that's fucked up.

A little bit. But hey, it's a hustle. Yeah. Did anyone ever send you like nasty pictures? I feel like someone sent something once I was like, whoa, what is this? And I was like, there's too much. There's too much. Yeah.

I once had a man not send me any nudes. He sent me pictures of his sandwich and told me like in detail how he made this sandwich. And then at the end would be like, I can make this for you. Wow. And how did that feel? It felt so strange. I was like, do I have the face of someone who's like hungry for sandwiches? Like, do I look like I'm patrolling a subway all the time?

Like, why? Okay, but here's a question. How do you feel about, in general, like, food accounts? You know, someone like making food, like making meals. I like it. There's this one account where a man does it where he like slaps the meat in a sexy way, and I really don't like that. It really makes me upset.

He'll, like, slitted chicken up and then, like, get in it, and I don't like it. That makes me really upset. But just like normal cooking, I like. Yeah, normal cooking is good. Right now I've been following ninja creamy accounts. Okay. Do you know what a ninja creamy is? I don't know what that is.

He used creamify technology to make ice cream. Oh, it's like the thing. Like cream can go a bunch of different places. It can. Yeah. No, this is a non-nasty cream. It's a wholesome cream. This is wholesome cream.

Okay. So you make the base, which is like milk and white. whatever you want to put in it. And then you put it in the freezer for 24 hours. Then you take it out, you put it in this, take the lid off, you put it in another thing, and then you put it into the ninja creamy, and it creamifies it.

In like 10 minutes, you have ice cream. Damn. And it's really, really nice. I mean ice cream in 10 minutes? Yes. That's fucking crazy. But it is 24 hours plus 10 minutes because you have to make the base the night before.

But if you make several bases the night before, then four nights in a row, you have ice cream. And every time you make a creamy, You make a new base, you can have ice cream forever. I think someone needs to, like, go into detail about that and the DMs. About the creamified technology. I have no idea what it does. Yep.

But every night I sing, creamy, creamy, everybody, everywhere. Creamy, creamy. And then you wake up and there's ice cream. Yes, and it's lovely. That's a great spell. I love it so much. Although last night I made a bad one. Oh.

I was trying to make an orange creamsicle. Damn, okay. And I used orange creamsicle protein powder, but I also had put sugar in it. So then it was just like obscenely sweet, like violently sweet. Truly just nasty. You know, it's, yeah, that makes me think I was having brunch the other day. And with the aforementioned, you know. And there was sugar on the side.

and she's like, oh, I want some sugar. Pours it in. Takes a drink. It's salt. Oh, Lord. It was great. It was great. I enjoyed that moment.

I thought it was fantastic. I would have been so upset. Wait, did you realize it was salt as she was shaking it in? Oh, okay. It would have been funny if I did. It would have been great. It would have been fantastic. But no, no, yeah.

Did she get a new drink? She did. I thought it was like slightly unnecessary. slightly unnecessary. You got to commit. You got to commit. I guess. All right.

I did taste it. It did taste like shit. So. I went to brunch the other day and they had ice cream cones. So I got to sit at a table and lick an ice cream code. It was so glorious. Ice cream on pancakes? I've never had it.

You fucking should. But I would do it. Fucking good. Oh my God. Well, this place was The Mermaid Inn on the Upper West Side of New York City. They're not paying me. I just don't want them to go out of business because I love sitting at a table eating ice cream. You know, like, those great spots, like that, you know, gluten-free pancakes?

We don't have, like, that. No, I don't want to say that, but, like, I love gluten-free pancakes. Are you celiac? No, I just love gluten. Like, if I have too much gluten, it, like, activates seasonal allergies. Oh. And so, like, when I, but I also love pancakes. So it's an eternal dilemma.

I also love pancakes. You find no spots for that gluten-free. It's all day. So good. That's very funny that you like a gluten-free pancake. I know. It's so specific. You're like, why not just a right?

Just a regular pancake, you fucking nut. Yeah. Well, I won't call you a fucking nut. I'd be like, you silly man. That was my internal dialogue coming out. Sometimes that happens. It is. It was.

Not even a sentence. Where are your favorite pancakes here in L.A.? Oh, my God. And then? Yes. Favorite pancakes in Canada? Well, there's one on Santa Monica. I'm trying to remember the name.

You know? No, you don't. Let me see. Is it in San Monica? Or just on Santa Monica Boulevard? In Santa Monica. In, oh, I don't go that far. That's too far.

It's too, it's too far. That's too far from me. You're right. That's a whole fucking long distance relationship. It really is. Yeah. I could never date somebody who's on the west side. Oh, man.

You just would never ever see me. Watch me date people on the other side of Canada. Really? I mean, it's happened a couple times where like, I've been in Vancouver. And then I'm going to film Jenny and Georgia. I'm going back to film the boys. Then I meet someone in Vancouver. And then you have like a month or two.

And you're like, I gotta go. I gotta get out of here. And then you're there, then you try to fly back, you try to make it work. Does it work? Good question. You got to really, really, really, really try.

I remember, you know, like this was, you know, someone I was dating like a few years back, but I think it's easier when you have like a, you're like, okay, we're going to get to this point, and then, you know, we're going to be able to spend more time together. I remember, Virginia and Georgia just finished

and I was hanging out with her and her friends and like unprompted like two of her friends were like so are you back for good and I was like I mean like I'm here

but I'm gonna go back but I can always I can fly back I can I can just come when I have I'm like cool and that that lasted maybe a few weeks longer

and then it was not did not continue. Maybe you also didn't like these friends policing you. That's a question she could have asked. No, you're right. I don't know what went behind that so I can't anticipate. Fair.

But yeah, I think there are probably other factors too. Like, I'm an actor. She had her own thing. It didn't, the schedules didn't work. It was, and yeah, it would throw off her stuff. But let me tell you, though, that breakup. I wasn't even, because we weren't even been officially dating, but like, you know, and she, she'd been great in, like, talking about, like, hey, I'm not sure. But I had come back, but then I had to go to Europe for a press tour.

And it was like getting to that place. I was checking in. And she was like, yeah, we should talk. And I'm like, okay, let's talk right now because I'm about to get on an eight, ten hour flight to London. Uh-huh. And- Something just to ruminate about it. Oh, God, that would have been death. So, yeah, we had the conversation on the phone as I was like in line to get on the plane.

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I think in my life, I have, you know, been drawn to people where there's great connection. There's great chemistry. What I've been putting my attention on is like, am I aligned with this person? Do we have the same values? Do we have the same philosophy on life? Do we have the same morals, the same vision? You know, and like that wider structure is, our timelines align, is our timing align, you know. And because that's been, I think those things have been a challenge for me, like in terms of finding someone.

It's like you have that connection, you have that chemistry. But then those other things aren't necessarily. Exactly. So off of your appearance on Ginny and Georgia, you had to address theories that you were AI? I guess. Why do you know why people thought you were AI? Ah, you know, my thought is that like, initially I think it started with someone being like, that's the guy from this, from like, I don't know if it was Grand Theft Auto or some video game.

And I honestly never even played Grand The Auto. But then somehow it merged into AI. And you know what I think it is. Because I got a new TV a couple years ago. And I was watching an episode of One Tree Hill because I was feeling nostalgic. On the screen, everyone's moving a little different because there's a setting on your TV that, like is meant for sports but everything comes default. Oh.

And then like everything, everyone's moving a little funny. Very, very quickly. Yeah. Yeah. So I think there was a bit of that. Uh-huh. That just, that particularly with me, got highlighted.

And then one thing led to another. And before you know it, I don't know, like the first version of chat GPT on television. I don't know. That's very funny. Do you watch yourself on things that you've shot? Or no? I do. I do.

What's interesting is like, I remember like the first play I was in or that I, not that I was in that I saw a tape of. I had a very interesting reaction to it. I was like, oh, that's interesting. Okay, so I did this here and I did that here and I did that here. And I kind of relate to it like an athlete looking at tape of a sport. You know, and for some, like, I think there are a few reasons. But like when I'm, when I'm watching, I'm able to look at it objectively and

and personally and look at it very much like something I'm breaking down and being like, okay, I was going for this and it had this effect. So if I want to do something different, I got to shift this a little here. And that's always been my relationship to it. And so, yeah, I love to look at it to see where I can improve and get better. You know, I like also just watching it for the first time by myself in case it's fucking terrible. And then I can just like curl up in a ball and wither slowly and then pull myself back together.

And then I can watch you with other people. But first, I'm watching it alone. You have a very healthy way of looking at it. I don't go, what can I do better? I'm like, you stupid, bitch. Why did you do that? What the fuck? What the fuck?

Why did you step like that? You look stupid. Yeah. But I do like the, this is what I can do better. I can try it like this, that, the other. But also, sometimes I'm like, that's the take you took. I know I did better. I know there's a better one.

I feel you on that. I feel you. Yeah. It's like you know, like you know I did, you gave something. And they're like, why did you pick that one? There was one that was so much better. I know. I was like, dropped in.

I was in the zone. I was feeling it. A little like bugger coming on on the specific one. But there's also. There's also takes that make it in where I've done something very silly. And the director's like, don't do that. And I'm like, oh, okay. And then on set I feel like, why was I being so silly?

And then they use that. And I'm like, I knew it. It was fucking good. I knew it. Yes. Yes. Sometimes you just got to follow your instincts and your intuition. Yes.

And trust yourself. Your intuition. That's not how that song goes. At night, I think of you. That's not the song, but that's a good one. I want to be a love in your life. Baby, if your game is on. Give me your goal.

If you're loving strong. We were singing that on the last day of set because we just rap, Ginny in Georgia. And me and Ray. who plays Joe, we were walking back from a take and we just started singing it. And Bree, who plays Georgia was right behind us

and she's like, fuck. And she just started singing it like randomly throughout the rest of the night. And it was fun. We wrapped it like, I wrapped it 4 a.m.

I think she wrapped at like 5.30. Oh. Yeah. That's too late. Some would say. I would say. You would be right. What time was your call time?

I think it was like, my pickup was 4.30? PM. PM. That's not that bad. No. People don't like splits. I love a split day.

I love it so much. Have a nice time in the morning, mid-afternoon. Go home at 5 a.m. Honschoo. He said splits and I, like, thought of someone doing a split. Oh, I like that, too. I was like, interesting that people would have such a strong opinion on splits. That's very funny.

That's where you're mind with. I just been a split day when you're shooting. But also, I love flexibility. That makes me very happy. Yeah. Okay, what advice would you give single people who are listening right now? I think you have to, like, know yourself and have a good relationship with yourself first. You can only meet someone, like, as deeply as you've gone with yourself.

You know, it's like being honest with yourself, being aware of yourself, being able to reflect. You know, like, everything starts with our relationships with ourselves. How do you two want to live life? Like, if you're thinking the thing in the long term, like, like, what? What's your idea of a relationship? Like being clear on those things. So you don't like get deeper into something and you wind up on a different page. And you're like, it's so hard to extricate.

Uh-huh. Because we've done so much. And we actually didn't have the same, you know, value system. Yeah. And the beliefs on what we wanted. But the clear you can be from the beginning, the more, the more trouble you can save yourself. Yeah. I think that's one of the many pieces of advice coming from.

a very, very single, most of the time person. I'm very, very single, but who's to say most of the time person? Very, very single most of the time. So you're into astrology, and you've been studying astrology since 2008? Yeah, oh, you got that, yeah. Yes, my assistant, Lindsay does so much research. Wow, Lindsay, you're on point. She's wonderful.

Okay, what would you have to know about me for you to do a reading on me? Oh, okay. So, I mean, I would need your birth time. Okay. Birth date. 908, August 29th. Oh, wow. If I had my phone on me, I could pull up my app and do the chart and give you a reading.

I could do that. Would you want to? I mean, I'm down. We can do it. Let's do it. My phone is in the other room. I'm going to have to. It can be got.

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Thank you. And what you, what I realized over time is that, like, all of that stuff is relevant. Yes. Right? But knowing about someone is different than knowing them. Ooh. Okay.

You know, and so I can have a bunch of facts, and that can help me relate to you. But that doesn't substitute for the experience of, like, connecting with you and like, yeah, experiencing you. Okay. You know? So, yeah, eventually, like, you know, I reference this stuff and I, like, I interface with it, but, like, it doesn't, you know, doesn't substitute for, like, sitting across

a person and just, like, living and experiencing them. Have you ever dated somebody who was also into astrology? And have you ever gotten to astrology offs? You know what? I mean, not. I mean, probably not as much as me. You know, I think that's a really. thing, but it does help when someone's into astrology and you're speaking the same language

and you're like when you can tell them something and they'll understand. Or it's nice when they're really into it, right? Because then you can like teach them and show them different things and like they love to learn and you love to, you know, share. And so that's been that's been fun too. I would be fun to date because I'm like a fish. I just forget things. Is that a fish thing?

It's a goldfish thing. Yeah, I'm a goldfish. Yeah. You'll tell me something and I'll be like, goodbye. Tell me again. I also have a question of memory at time. So I know what you mean. Except when it comes to astrology, because I remember a lot.

Okay. So what's your birthday? August 29th. August 29th. And what year? Honk, honk! What time? 9.8 a.m.

Mars, will you bleep the year because I like not having people? Because I don't want people to be like, well, then you know how old you are if you know the year. No one's going to know. I do a bit where I'm just like, I'm 92. I'm 68. I'm 88. I'm 2003 personally. Let's see. What city? Red Bank, New Jersey.

Red Bank, New Jersey. Red Bank, New Jersey. Red Bank. Okay. So, are you a Libarizer? You know, you've never done your chart. I have done my chart. But again, I simply forget. I thought I was a Virgo. I mean, you are, like, close if, okay, so time does matter. Yes. And you would be close to a Virgo Rising.

Uh-huh. You would be close, but you'd have to be born around like 8.45, 8.30. Oh, you give me a different. 8.09. Damn. I'm so sorry. You see? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Cool. So. I was trying to do this whole reading. Remember my, because I have my birth certificate in my bedroom because I had to order a new one. Mm-hmm. It is 809 a.m.

Okay. Okay. All right. So that does make you a Virgo rise. Okay. The only thing I remember from my chart. Good thing, because that would have been a very different reading. Your son is in Virgo in the 12th house.

Your moon is in Gemini in the 10th house. Okay. Which is very fitting, which makes a lot of sense. You have Mars and Capricorn. You have Venus in Libra in the second house. And what does that mean? Okay. So Venus is.

how we approach relationships. Okay. Right. And so when you look at Venus, it's what we value aesthetically. It's how we relate to people. It's how we bond. Right. And it's like how we are in relationships.

So Libra is, you know, the scales are about balance. And there's this theme of harmony, you know, of wanting peace, you know? And it's like, where can you go to reset and find equilibrium? You know, and so, you know, people with Venus and Libra tend to not like too much conflict, you know? So that's what, one of the things that would be your preference in a relationship. You know, again, now, that's only one part of the chart. So other parts can add flavor and, you know, dimension to it. Your Venus is also in the second house.

And the second house is the house of income. It's the house of resources. and when planets are there, it tends to be, there tends to be a theme of like wanting to prove yourself to yourself. Oh. Because it's also related to like our self-esteem. You know, it's related to our own talents. You know, it's also connected to just survival, right?

And so for people with planets in that house, there can be an attention on, you know, using your talents and your skills to acquire resources, to establish security for yourself, you know, to just make sure you're in a place where you can survive what life throws at you, you know, because you also have Pluto there, and Pluto is a very intense planet.

And depending on where it is, it's where we come up against, you know, the, sometimes the shadow side of life, you know. And, again, I don't want to say this applies in every scenario, but I had a friend growing up who had Pluto in the, in the second house. And, you know, money and income and all that stuff

was very, like, survival-oriented. Like, that was her relationship with, you know, with money growing up. You know, and she's done really well for herself. But just that starting point, you know, and it's more like there's like a life or death energy. Mm-hmm. You know?

Yeah. My dad once said to me, once money is gone, it is gone. And that has stuck with me in a way that maybe is deeply unhealthy. I mean, we all, like, we're all coming at things from different angles, right? And so it might be, or it might be just true for you or true for your situation or, like, how you view things, right? It might be a necessary perspective at one point in your life.

And then at a different point, you can, you know, move on to a different place. But yeah, but yeah, this notion of this energy of, like, finality and just like the real ruthless truth. truth around something. It's very plutonian. Right? And so that being in your second house, yeah, I mean it is gone, but it doesn't mean it can't come back.

Like that specific money that you got rid of is gone, but it doesn't mean there can't be something else, right? You also have the south node right beside your Venus. And again, this is if you're into this stuff or not. No, I think it's interesting. It is pretty fucking cool. But the south node, you can use this as a metaphor or look at it, like, in reality is

tends to be connected to past lives. You know, in the unresolved lessons and the unresolved stuff that we have, right? So that being aligned with your Venus in the South Node suggests that like this is, this has been a sticking point in past lives. And so there's extra, you know,

carmic weight or energetic intensity like with these issues, right? Okay. Okay. So we're going to also look at Mars, which is in Capricorn. And that is in the, that's in the fourth house. Okay.

And the fourth house is family. It's home. You know, it's our roots. And Capricorn is about building something. It's about being productive. It's about being efficient. I don't know, efficient is the right word. But building something that lasts.

You know, if you think of, you know, just a metaphor of climbing a mountain. You know, like what's a mountain in your life that you want to climb or you want to achieve something? Right. So that would be Capricorn. And with Mars and Capricorn in your fourth house, you know, when I think of people who have Mars and Capricorn in the fourth, you know, I have a friend who has it, and I'm not saying this would apply to you,

but there's a very lively energy, you know, in the home. You know, like her house was a house who would go to in high school. You know, like her parents would always be cooking food. Everyone would be over. You know, there would be parties, you know. And so there's just like a lot of energy and activity. in the home, you know, or attention towards building, you know, a home and needing, you know, needing a safe space where you can operate, right? Okay. That very much resonates with me.

Okay, great, great. Added to which you have Sagittarius on the fourth house cusp, so the fourth house is the house of home. So Sagittarius would flavor it as well. And Sagittarius energy is very independent. It's very roving, freedom-oriented, travel-oriented. So maybe, you know, you hopped around to different homes. You know, maybe, you know, you could have lived in another country or gone to, like, been born in one place, moved and settled down in another, right?

Those are possibilities. You know, it doesn't have to manifest that way. But there's some theme of Sagittarian, like freedom or travel or one. that's usually associated when you see Sagittarius on the fourth house cusp. I wonder if that has to do with me touring. I tour a lot. I mean, that could be it as well, you know? Because, you know, here's the thing.

Usually you look at the ninth house and, you know, other themes. But yeah, yeah, there is a, because you look at, when you look at Sagittarius, you look at Jupiter. And Jupiter's in your sixth house. And so the theme of travel with Sagittarius carries over to Jupiter. And the sixth house is about everyday work. Right? And so traveling for everyday work, right? Gemini Moon in the 10th talking. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You're like, I fucking love to talk. Yeah, I do. Yeah, that's what I do. I do. We talk so much. So, yeah, Gemini is a sign of communication. It's a sign of listening.

It's a sign of just of speaking, right? And the moon is our heart. Okay. You know, it's how we connect to and experience our emotions, right? And air moons and Gemini moons tend to be more comfortable talking things out, you know, and thinking about their feelings rather than like feeling their feelings, you know. And in the 10th, the way that manifests is the 10th house is your career. You know, it's a public sphere.

So putting your heart into something and using that as a vehicle for communication, you know those would be themes with someone who has Gemini placements in the 10th house right and then you got you got your son in mercury and mercury in leo which is leo is the performer you know we love a little applause if we're a Leo I really do yeah we fucking do um and yeah it's in the 11th house of it's pretty close to it's actually on the 12th house cusp um but it's like let's let's yeah so the 11th house is networks and groups and communities. The 12th house is solitary. It's private. You know, it's, and your son is there too. And what I would say when I see a 12th house son is there's a need for alone time. There's a need for privacy.

And there's probably a part of yourself or probably like a core part of yourself that most people do not see. You know, it's like when people are like, I'm a Sagittarius or, and actually I can, I feel like I can see this as well. Like people say like, I'm a Sagittarius and you can tell that. Or like, I'm a Leo and you can tell that. You're a Virgo. I'm not picking up a lot of Virgo energy.

Right? But that Virgo energy is hidden. It's in this private place, right? And only people who are really close to you are going to see that. Or it's going to come out in those private environments. Yeah. Yeah, because I've been told that Virgoes are like, they have rules and they're very tidy and they like things a certain way.

And those are all very private things because I have a lot of rules. that people don't know about, but when they break them, but you're like, I don't know about it. We're done. Yeah. Yeah, no, Virgo, like, you know, I think with Virgo, it's like you see where things are and you see how good things could be. You know, and there's this need for self-improvement for perfection, you know, to reach an ideal.

Like very detailed-oriented. And the need to be of service to other people, you know, to be competent, to be skilled, to do and give something that is useful to others. Yeah. Yeah. How did you get into astrology? How did I get into it? Yes.

I was really, you know, in high school, I was very into spiritual exploration, right? And I wanted to understand myself, right? So I would go on the computer and the library and, like, do personality tests and, like, read and look up different things. And then one day, I found a website, like, an Australian. astrology website. It was a monthly horoscope and it divided like, like, even the sign of, say, cancer, cancer rising, because I'm cancer rising. It's like the first 10 degrees, the second 10 degrees and the third 10 degrees. So I looked at mine in the third. And what was interesting is like there was a couple things that were right every month that were outside of my direct control. You know, because you can

like, okay, you're going to have a great day. You can go out and like give yourself a great day. But say, like, you know, you look at the realms where things can manifest. So it's like, you look, okay, Venus is relationships, 11th house is groups of people, you know, say there's a alignment between Venus and Mars. It's like, okay, something exciting, something with some tension, some fun energy is going to, sexual tension, fun energy is going to happen in, you know, around groups of people, you know, on this day. And consistently... It would just be right. Yeah, in a way that I couldn't like manipulate directly, right? And then I found this other astrology website, and that was right.

So I was like, oh, so it just like piqued my interest. And then I got a reading in 2008. And this guy, he just laid out a bunch of stuff. And I was like, wow, okay. And he gave me this chart. And I didn't understand it at all. But I said to myself, I'm going to understand this. And so I just studied.

I just read all these books. I'd go on forums. I'd read different people's interpretations. And where did you get that reading? Are you trying to get you? That reading. Or you want to share. Oh, no.

That dude, he's, he's old. He's old. You're like, he done dead. I don't know where he is. I genuinely, I would love to, I think I tried to, too. I just was like, he doesn't answer his email. I tried years ago. He doesn't answer his emails.

I don't know if he's, I don't know where he is. I don't know if he's here. Uh-huh. I don't know if he's there. A different plane. Yeah, I don't know if he's transcended to another environment. But it was great. Yeah.

I like a, like a tarot card readings. I love me some taro. And I'm very good at reading tarot. Yes. But only this specific deck and only in my house. Interesting. But I can read them if someone has a deck that they love. Mm-hmm.

And I'm in a specific deck. safe place than I can read them. But if I'm just like out in the world, like here, I don't think I'd be able to read them well. What I find interesting about taro is you can, or I can read for somebody else. I can't read for myself. I can only read for myself if I need a message. What I find is like, if I ask the tarot question and it's like what's, what's going to happen? And it gives me an answer. Like, I'm like, oh, that's the end. No, it wasn't the answer. It was like the next emotionally significant thing that was going to happen to me. So it wasn't specifically that.

But it'll tell me, it'll tell me something, but not, you're not what I asked. You know? Mine, I can, yeah, it will only give me answers if I actually need to know. Otherwise, they'll tell me about my career and money. Fair. This is not bad answers to get. Not bad answers. You know, it's crazy, too.

Like, I have a friend who I read with who I've honestly been reading with since, like, we go back, like, to high school. school, right? And sometimes we'll ask like too many questions and we get really bad cards and it's a terrible way of being like fuck off. Yeah, fuck off. We're done here. You're making me work too fucking hard and I

don't want to do it. Yes, it's overtime. They're done. Do you have a special deck that you like to use? I like riderweight. It's classic. You can, like you can I'm very familiar with the symbolism. You know, like I think personally, like when you're

answering questions and you pull out different cards, I like to look at the sky. And, like, what color is the sky? Because that gives an inclination of the emotional tone of the answer. Yeah. My card is by an artist called Dawn Aquarius. It sounds familiar. She has, I think, a couple different decks.

I was in Joshua Tree and I was in a vintage store. And I was like, do you have the Don Virgo cards? And they were like, what are you talking about? These are Don Aquarius. Where's Donvurg? And they're like, that's the name of the artist. So I think the cards are like, what a silly billy. That's funny.

We like her. Yeah, no one's going to know all their names by it. I know. I was like, and I'm the idiot. Come on. Yeah. No. Not at all.

Well, Nathan, we have reached the end. We've reached the end. We have. Do you have anything that you want to promote? Anything I want to promote. Yes. I want to promote my mom because she's wonderful. That's nice.

And yeah. And my dad and my sisters are great too. But I was going to make a joke. But basically, my mom would be like, that's not funny. You can't stand. But, yeah, we finished Jenny and Georgia filming season four. I don't know when it's coming out, but we done. And Du Bois is coming out April 8th.

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Okay, yes. Yay, gully. I'm sleeping already. Who's your favorite Pokemon? Charmander. Okay. He's the best. He's the OG.

He's very, very cute. I love him. When I go to karaoke, I always sing the Pokemon theme song. And it's a real crowd, please. It would be. It is. And everyone gets so into it. Oh, man.

It's such a good song. Can you do it now? No. Yeah. I want to be the very best. Like no one ever was. To catch them is my real. My greatest test.

Freedom is my cause. Pokemon. It was fantastic. Listen, I need the words there. I don't know any song front to back. I think I actually still know all the words. It sounds like you do. I do.

And it was humiliating for me to be like, that's the song I always do. And I'm like, I simply don't know the words. What is it? But my second song is always, Creed, can you take me hard? Anyway, if you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me?

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