Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - BEST OF: Being a Single Mom of 3 (w/ Francesca Amber)
Episode Date: October 18, 2024While we're on hiatus, we're bringing you the best of the podcast – completely ad-free! In this episode, Nicole’s close friend Francesca Amber (host of Law of Attraction Ch...anged my Life) opens up about the challenges of being a single mother to twins, the rising trend of 'co-parenting', and how she uses the Law of Attraction to manifest her dream partner. Meanwhile, Nicole counts down the days until her dick appointment.Originally aired on July 16, 2021.We’re launching a YouTube channel! Subscribe now for upcoming full-length video podcast episodes.We're looking for more dirty message submissions! Submit a dirty message to whywontyoudatemepodcast@gmail.com for a chance to have it read on-air.Follow Nicole Byer:X: @nicolebyerInstagram: @nicolebyerNicole's book: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Oh, hi, hi, hi, it's the girl.
Okay, so like while we're on hiatus,
we're bringing back some of my favorite episodes
completely what?
Ad-free.
Today's episode features my good friend Francesca Amber.
She is the mother of three, the owner of N7 Collective Salon
in London, England, and the host of the podcast
Law of Attraction Changed My Life.
I gotta say, Franny is one of the best people I once went to.
Where did I go? We went to Cabo and we had a great time.
This was a couple of years ago. Was it two years ago?
Listen, I can't remember.
In this episode, Francesca opens up about the shocking moment
she found out she was expecting twins and spills the tea about flirting
with a man while visibly pregnant with two babies.
She also dives deep into how the law of attraction has shaped her career and her search for love.
Oh, and don't forget to subscribe to our new YouTube channel.
We'll be dropping new video episodes there soon.
There's a link in the episode description.
Okay, are ya ready?
Let's hear the theme song.
Why won't you date me?
Why won't you date me?
Why won't you date me?
Please tell me why!
Ooh baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me?
A podcast where me, Nicole Byer, tries to figure out how I'm still single even though
you come into my house and throw away all the things that I've carefully tried to curate.
I would say, yep, it's trash anyway.
My guest today, oh boy, I adore her.
She's a mother of three.
She's the owner of N7 Collective Salon in London.
And she hosts the podcast, Laws of Attraction,
no, Law of Attraction Changed My Life.
It's Francesca Ember!
Hi, bitches. Ha ha ha Fran Fran Fran, how are you?
Wait, what time is it?
You're in England.
It's 8pm and I can hear one child screaming upstairs, but luckily my mother is up there.
They're not left on their own.
It's all fine.
There's always one screaming no matter what I do.
It is so wild to me that you are a single mother of three.
I have learned how far I can push my body, my mind, my spirit, my fucking everything.
It is truly testing me.
And I've realized that women are so strong and men are whiny little bitches.
This is what I've learned in the last year.
And when I saw you a year ago, I had one child.
Now I have three.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're fucking twins.
Yeah. Don't ever do it. We're not designed.
I mean, when did you find out you were having twins?
At nine weeks pregnant. So I was working in London and I started having a little bit of
bleeding and I felt like fucking death. Like I just felt awful. Like I've obviously been pregnant
before, but this was like another level. And so I went to hospital thinking, okay, I keep
bleeding. They're probably going to say to me like that I'm losing the baby or something.
And so I went and had a scan and she's like, right, I'm not going to talk to you till the
end. So don't ask me any questions. I'm going to do a thorough thing and then I'll, I'll talk to you at the end.
So I was like, okay, cool.
And then she was like, okay, so the good news is that there is a heartbeat, but
there's two heartbeats and I said that had better be a fucking baby with two
hearts, because if there's two, I was so upset.
I, I may have sworn at them.
I cried and I cried from that hospital on
the 20-minute walk home to my flat. I cried the whole way. I was devastated for weeks.
Couldn't leave my house. It was awful.
I mean, I'm giggling, but I truly love how real you're being about this because I feel like when people get pregnant and they're having babies,
everyone is like, the general consensus is like, I'm so blessed, I'm so happy. But then I'm like,
sometimes you are scared and it's okay to say that you're scared.
Or sometimes it's not something you want. Like one of the things on my podcast I've always been
really open about is I never wanted boys. I don't like boys very
much. I don't like men. I don't, and I can't guarantee that I'd have a gay son. So I'm like,
I just wanted girls and the clothes are cuter. So I've always, and if I'd got a boy, I would have
been so upset. And it's the same with twins. I didn't want three children. I really, really didn't.
I just wanted a little friend for my daughter. And I just wanted to get on with life. Instead,
here I am lugging around two babies, breastfeeding two babies. Like I literally look like I've got an illness at the moment
because I'm just so skinny, but not in a toned way, just in a like, are you okay? You look
like you're dying kind of way. I didn't want this, but I got it.
I feel like you look fucking fabulous.
Thank you, but... Mmm.
What is, I mean, this is a question I feel like that's just a run of the mill question,
but I'm dying.
Like, what is the hardest thing about having twin fucking infants?
Because they're not one yet.
No, they're six months.
The hardest thing is that, obviously, like a young baby, you young baby, when you have a new baby, you
see people, you know, preciously pick it up and carry it with both hands.
When you have twins, you have to drag a baby by a leg across the sofa and pick it up, scoop
it up.
You might drop one.
Like you do things with twins that you would never do with a single baby.
I have to now put one on my back, which involves twisting it on a thing. It might fall out. I have
to do it over a sofa, put her on my back. I can't see what she's doing back there. You just do things
with twins that you would never do with one because it's the physical weight and difficulty
of carrying them, like carrying them, feeding them. It's just a, we are definitely not designed to
have more than one baby. I can categorically say that.
It's not normal.
It's not right.
And I'm not okay.
I feel like just in general, people with their second kids,
like I'm a second kid, there's so many beautiful pictures
of my sister, loving pictures.
There's not the same amount for me.
It was just like, oh my God, this is still a baby.
There's a new baby.
I don't fucking, she can eat off the floor.
I don't fucking care.
And when I was nanny, it was like the same thing.
The first baby was like, we're so precious with it.
Da da da da.
And then I went over when she had the second baby
and she was just like drained of color from her face.
She had to sit on a donut because the second baby
ripped her harder than the first.
And she was just like, I need to feel like a human again.
I need to. And then the baby was like eating something off the floor or like trying to like nibble something that had fallen.
And she was like, it doesn't fucking matter. Just let her do it. And I was like, oh my god. Okay. You are a changed woman.
It is definitely, you know, I had all my mum friends around last night.
It's the first time we've seen each other in a year because of lockdown. And we, and I was
like, is it true that you love your, not you love your second child less, but it's a different
vibe. Like with Bohemia, I did weekly videos of her fucking life. I edited videos with
background music. I faded in, I faded out. These kids have got like a couple of pictures.
You know, it is not, you just don't feel the same
about a second child.
It's not nearly as magical.
And I'm a second child too.
So now I understand why my parents are the way with me
that they are.
They followed my sister to where she moved.
I had to fucking move to be with them.
And now I know why.
I feel like you're doing a great job because like online, I've gotten to see
so much of them on your Instagram.
I think you're doing such a great job.
They look so cute.
You dress them so cute.
They're just truly two little adorable babies.
It does help that they're cute.
It does.
But not to blame my own trumpet, but I am doing a fucking good job.
Like I truly am. You know,
my sister keeps saying to me, she's like, everyone I know that's had twins, a lot of
them have not been able to breastfeed twins exclusively. And I've had breast implants
as well. So like we're talking like 60% silicone up in here. So like, I don't know how it's
happened, but I'm very proud of myself for that. And we've been in a lockdown as well.
So we've been, I've been doing this in real isolation with no support, nothing. I'm very proud of myself for that. And we've been in a lockdown as well. So we've been, I've been doing this in real isolation
with no support, I'm just sitting and feeding and changing
for what seems like an eternity.
And it's fucking hard, but one day they'll be grown up
and they'll be like, mom, let's go to New York.
And I'll be like, yes.
And we'll all drink champagne and it'll all be fine.
That's what I'm waiting for.
I love that, I love that vision. You're just like a lot of hard work will pay off
and we're going to have a lot of fucking fun later.
It's got to. It's got to pay off somewhere.
What has lockdown been like in England?
Oh, it has been a shit show. Our government is so truly. So we were talking to our mutual friend,
John Mason and his cousin Kaye, and we were talking about how he's in Australia, she's in America, I'm in England, and how different it's been.
So Australia, super, super cautious.
America, they don't give a shit.
They're out in the bars.
They truly are in denial.
And then in England, we've been in lockdown for pretty much a year.
We went into lockdown and I was in my first trimester.
I now have six month old twins and I'm, we're still in lockdown. And I don't really see it ending
anytime soon. I mean, I've not really been anywhere in a year and it's crazy and I'm
over it. I'm so over it. So have you done any kind of dating during like this past,
this whole corona time. I did too. I did a FaceTime date where he only allotted like 15 minutes and then was
having friends over and this was last May and I was like, sir, it's the beginning of
the pandemic and you have friends come out. I don't know if we have the same values. And
then I went on a date where I talked about it in another episode, but he was very sweet, very kind.
It just, like my wig fell off at one point.
It was just like messy.
So that was in person?
It was in person at a park where we sat pretty far away,
had like a nice lovely afternoon,
and then my wig fell off, and then I was like,
you know what, it's time for me to leave, I gotta go.
That's a sign.
Also I was in, yeah, it's a sign from the beautiful Lord Jesus
to be like, okay, bitch, you gotta slow your roll.
You gotta stop. You gotta go back inside.
Yeah. I mean, I think for everyone that has been
in this pandemic, single people have been hit the hardest.
Because, I mean, I don't know about you,
but I feel like as a single person that's truly,
truly happy about being single, We tend to fill our lives with
work that we love, with friends, we tend to go out with friends more, we tend to do a
lot more things. For me, work isn't even really work, like I enjoy going out. And then all
of a sudden you're like, you have to sit in the house that you fucking built and lay in
your bed with no one else in it and really look at who's in your home. And I'm like,
no, because I'm the only adult in my home and I'm going insane and it's not fair. Don't make me look inward. I mean, I've even looked
at getting back with my twin's dad. The other day I was like, is he so bad? And my friend
was like, look, you're feeling lonely and that's truly all it is. Like, do not go there.
So it's been hard for us, I think.
Yeah, I fully agree.
Cause I, I don't think I told you this,
but I dislocated my ankle in November.
I saw.
And yeah, so like,
I just had a bunch of friends taking care of me.
I truly was just like,
if I had a significant out there, they would help.
It would, life would just be that much easier
as opposed to being injured alone
and having to beg people, or not beg,
but like be like, I don't wanna ask this person
to do another thing for me.
But it's like, can you come over and cook for me?
I can't fucking stand for very long.
Or it's like, can you take me to the fucking doctor?
It was just like, I wish I had a partner who's like,
oh, I'll make you soup even though I hate soup
and I'll help you up the stairs.
And yeah, it was, it made me that much lonelier.
Yeah, I think it's when you need help with things
and especially I've realised like with the twins,
there's quite often times where I just need someone
to hold a baby so I can look after the other one
and it's like the fact that there's no one there to do that.
I'm like, ugh, this sucks a little bit.
But do you know what?
Soon everything will be open and we'll be living in our best lives again.
And all the married couples will just be at home, like the same.
So they'll be at home and we'll be getting freaky.
Have you been dating at all during the pandemic?
Do you know what's so funny is so I moved from London at the beginning of the
pandemic, cause I was like, do you know what?
I don't need to be in a city like with three young children.
And so I rented out my apartment and I moved up to the country where all my family live.
And so I'm pretty new here.
I have friends here, but I don't know loads of people here.
And so there was a guy who was mutual friends on Facebook with a couple of my friends, hot,
like fucking hot. I was very
obviously pregnant with twins, like very, very large. And he's messaged me pictures
of his dick, videos of his dick, which I of course passed around to all of my mum friends.
And it's such a bizarre thing. And actually, when I was pregnant with Bohemia, I would
get chatted up more when I was pregnant than when I wasn't. I swear to God, it's the weirdest
thing. And this guy is like hot. So I said to my friend, is he a weirdo? She's like,
no, he's like an upstanding guy. Lots of people know him, he's well liked. And I just said
to him, like, does it not bother you that I am pregnant with two
babies? And he's like, no, not really. As long as like no one really knew. And I ended
up, I just thought I was tempted, but I was like, I can't go there because can you imagine
if anyone ever found out like this hoe has moved from London, he's pregnant with twins
and he's literally shacking up. I was like, I can't do it.
I can't.
And actually, nah.
You should have.
It might have been fun.
Do you know what?
He did come around my house and get my Christmas tree out of my loft.
And that's not a metaphor or euphemism.
He literally sounds like a euphemism.
It really does.
He did some dusting and pulled my Christmas tree out of the loft.
I was having one of those moments that we were just talking about where you're like,
I need someone to help me.
I can't get in my loft.
I've just had an operation and also I'm scared of spiders.
And so, sorry, I mean an attic for American people.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
A loft, an attic.
Oh, okay.
And he came around and got it out of my loft.
And then I was just like,
he was sitting looking at his Instagram stories and he's very active on his Instagram stories.
And I find that very unattractive in a man. I don't like a man that takes social media
seriously. And I was like, nah, I just didn't feel the vibe. So I was like, do you know what? Nah,
I ain't got time for this. Truly, I do not have time.
Did you, so Bo's dad, were you with him throughout the pregnancy or no?
What's the story with him?
Do you mind telling it?
So the way, no, the way I met Bo's dad is insane.
And that's pretty much what started my law of attraction.
Like I used to do it as a YouTube channel before it was a podcast.
And it's on Patreon? and it's on Patreon.
Now it's on Patreon.
Thanks for mentioning that.
Yeah.
I am a Patreon bitch.
I love Patreon.
Um, so I, years and years and years ago, I was single and this was
before any kind of dating apps.
It was very much like dating websites.
And my mom was like, you're going to be
single forever. This is like when I was 26, which how rude. So she made me go on match.com and I
typed in what I wanted, which was like six foot six and above. I put in some real weird shit.
And you know, normally you would get like 5,000 results or maybe like 500 results at least, I got one result.
And it was this tall mixed race guy.
I mean, total he's six foot nine.
So like long standing on a beach with a boat behind him.
And I was like, mom, that is my husband.
This is my husband.
So I literally signed up, paid the money, sent him a message that might
have been a little bit crazy, but I was like, look, don't think I'm crazy, but I think you might be my husband.
And as soon as he paid the money, you could see it said, this user has not been active
for 60 days.
So I was like, oh man, two months, he's not going to fucking see this.
So he never, he never actually got back to my message.
At the end of the month, I actually phoned match.com and I was like, look, can you get
me a Twitter handle, an Instagram?
It was an Instagram back then, but I was like, I need to find this guy. He's my husband.
They said, no, data protection act, you're crazy, whatever. So I was like, fine. I agree
with you. Fine.
I wonder how many other women are like, I need to find this man. And they're like, we
don't know what we've started. This is wild.
Yeah, I'm sure I wasn't the only one. So my mum was like, why don't you do your law of attraction
thing? So I printed out his picture. I put it on a vision board, bear with. So I put other things I
wanted as well. And I was like, this is the kind of husband I want to attract. I didn't for a second
think it would be him. But I was like, this is the kind of person I want to attract. Two and a half
years later, my friend is walking along the road in London,
sees this really tall guy, she's never done this for me before.
And she says, oh my God, my friend loves tall guys,
would you like to go on a date?
She sets up this blind date for me,
and just before the blind date, he says,
oh, do you wanna switch like Facebook pages
so we can see what we look like?
I mean, not really the idea of a blind date,
but so I was like, sure. The profile picture was the same picture.
It wasn't just, is this the same guy?
It was the same, the boat in the background, the same fucking picture.
I mean, Nicole, come on.
That's fucking wild.
I truly, I mean, like when it's meant to be, it's meant to be, but then it wasn't
meant to be because y'all didn't stay together.
Well, it turned out he was gay and he nearly ruined my life. So it wasn't exactly meant to be.
But do you know what? I do feel like some people are for a reason, some are for a season. And he
taught me so much. Like he managed to get me to quit my job. I was in a job I hated. He is like,
quit your job, do your own business. He like encouraged me to travel the world. We hadn't
even been married a year when I went traveling with John. He was like, go for it, go and have fun. I call him my third parent because
I do feel like he taught me a lot of things that my own parents didn't teach me. And we
have a beautiful child together. I love her. I have no, hashtag no regrets about our marriage,
but my God, we made each other unhappy in the end, like we were not meant to be.
And so I have Bohemia with him. And then after that, after I got divorced, I really went for
like the opposite end of the spectrum. I went for somebody who was very, very laid back, not at all
controlling, almost like had no dreams of their own. So they'd kind of just go along with mine.
And I thought that would be really nice.
And it turns out I fucking hate that too.
One's too hot, one's too cold.
I need something in the middle, but then I got knocked up with twins.
So here I am now, three children.
But the only good thing to this story is that I truly feel
like my children are done now.
I have three beautiful, healthy daughters.
What more could I want? And that part of my children are done now. I have three beautiful, healthy daughters.
What more could I want?
And that part of my life is done.
Like, I now can look for love with no agenda, no timeline,
no biological clock ticking.
I'm just going to find someone that I fucking love hanging out with.
And I don't need to worry about their sperm or worry about,
ooh, does he look a bit funny from the side?
Will my children be really talk?
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I could just be like, let's have fun.
And I'm excited for that.
I love that.
So you've always wanted children.
I've always wanted daughters, always.
I thought too.
Although I was never really a childish sort of person.
I don't like other people's children very much.
I mean, I'm surprised that you were a nanny.
That really shocks me.
I know.
It shocks a lot of people, but when I was younger, I liked children.
I wanted children.
I babysat at a time.
And then I started nannying.
And I would be with the first kid I nannied, I'd be with actually the second kids too.
I'd be with them from like 8 a.m. to about 3 p.m. 4 p.m.
And you know, they're awake in the morning,
and then you put them down for a nap,
and then either you hear them on the monitor
or the other kids I babysat, they were older.
So I would like put my head down on the couch
and close my eyes, and I'd feel a presence in front of me.
And I'd open my eyes and I'd be like,
oh, hi, you're awake.
And I'm like, mm-hmm, milk.
And I'm like, yep, I know.
I know the routine.
You don't have to say milk every time you wake up.
Milk, milk.
And I was like, oh boy.
And just the thought of somebody being there when I woke up and I couldn't do my shit because
I had to do theirs first, at like 20, I guess it was 25 when I stopped nannying.
I was like, yeah, I can't, I can't do this.
I, and then the thought of a child in my home, it's my home.
It's mine.
What are you, what are you doing here?
I think this, not that it matters, but this is what I think you should do.
I think you should wait a couple of years because you're still very young.
And then I think you should get some sort of sperm donor situation. Or you
can even do co-parenting now where you just give the kids to someone else for two days
a week, which is perfect. Trust me, that's what I do.
Wait, what?
Yeah. There's a whole show about it in the UK. You find someone online that wants a child
as well. My friend Chris is on it actually. And you say, look,
I want a baby, you want a baby. What are your values? What are your beliefs? How do you
want to raise them? And they say, right, I'll have it Tuesday and Wednesday. You have it
the rest of the week. And people are fucking doing this shit. It's like Tinder, but for
babies. It's amazing. You should do that and just have one and love it and cherish it and
give it all of your inheritance. And you will love it.
I'm telling you, you'll never feel a love like it, but not more than one, just one.
Okay.
I feel like if I hit 50, 55, 60-ish, I think I'll adopt like an eight-year-old or something,
somebody who can talk to me, who I could still kind of dress up, and then just like travel the world with this little kid
and be like, this is my friend.
That would be all so fun.
But then it's just like I have to put them in school and stuff.
It's just like a lot of things that you have to think about with a child.
Like you can't just have a kid be your friend
and then release it to the wild when you die, because then it's like,
oh, if you didn't teach them anything, they're going to just wreak havoc on the world.
End up murdering someone, probably.
Yeah. And I don't want that.
Okay, so tell me about your podcast,
Law of Attraction Changed My Life.
What is the law of attraction?
So, the law of attraction is basically how I met my husband.
So if you need to decide first what it is
that you want to attract into your life,
anything, it could be your dream home,
your dream partner, whatever it is.
And you manifest it into reality.
You speak about it and you think about it until it becomes, until you see it.
And it sounds really simple, but there's a lot of people, myself included until I was
about 25, just sort of kind of going through life, feeling like you don't have a choice
in all of this stuff and that life just happens.
But actually, you can be the architect of your own life.
You can live your life exactly how you want. You don't have to work a nine to five. You can quit
and earn triple the money working one day a week if you truly want. You can move wherever
you want in the world. And it's just about, I guess what I specialize in is just ordinary
stuff like women that desperately want babies and have had fertility issues or women that
are trying to look for love and have not found the right person. All that kind of stuff, which is why I suggested it to you as well,
because I think for you and a man... Oh, sorry, that was Bohemia on a walkie talkie. She's
trying to fucking talk to me. Oh, good Lord. I might hang up.
What is she saying?
Let me go and turn it off.
Hold on.
We've got these walkie talkies and we took them to the shop the other day.
And she likes to go on the next aisle and then talk to me from the walkie
talkie and she's like, mommy, and buy your favorite drink.
And I go around there, she's in front of the Rose wine and this man's laughing.
I'm like, oh, thank you, Beau.
You got to love them. And this man's laughing, I'm like, oh, thank you, Beau. BOTH LAUGH
Oh, you gotta love him.
Yeah, I mean, that is funny.
Those moments are very funny, but it's like,
well, you gotta clean up shit,
because you're gonna have to clean up a lot of shit.
That's not for me.
It's true. Well, I'm beyond that stage with her now.
She is legit like my little best friend.
It is great. It is great, but yeah.
So, yes, you just gotta figure out what it is that you want in life, like identify it first, and then what
you think about, you'll bring about, get on the right vibration. I mean, so many people
walk through life being so negative about stuff. I mean, I could sit here and be like,
I'm a single mom, and I don't have a man in my life, and I've got three children. And
I can currently hear two of
them screaming upstairs and like, do you know what I mean? And, but I don't, I sit here and I think
how incredible that like, it wouldn't have been that long ago that I wouldn't have been able to
live this life. I wouldn't have been able to purchase my own home. I wouldn't have been able
to run my own business. I certainly wouldn't have been allowed to have three children by myself.
Like it wouldn't have been allowed, you know, and I'm kind of just
living life completely on my terms and doing it how I want.
And that's the thing, success looks different to everyone.
And so with the law of attraction, I think some people feel like, well, is there enough
to go around?
But it's like, of course there is, because not everybody wants the same thing.
I wanted a podcast that was going to be number one in the UK, like in its division.
And that's happened within a couple of months of it being here.
But not everybody wants that.
Not everybody wants a million baby girls.
Like, you know, everyone wants to differentiate.
Okay, so how do I...
So what I need to do is make a vision board of the person I want to attract?
I would create a vision board and then I would put it as this screensaver on your phone so that you see it subliminally just multiple times a day.
You could put it on the background of your computer.
I think the lock screen of your phone is good.
And something that I've been doing recently because I'm very anti-love at
the moment, I'm very like, I don't want a man in my life.
I'm very conflicted.
And so what I'm doing is rather than putting what
I think is my ideal man, so you could put a picture of a big old dick, you could put a picture of some
like nice tattoos or something, whatever you want. But I'm actually putting pictures of couples that
I really respect and admire because I found myself getting in this tricky scenario now where I'll go
on holiday with like my friend and I'll find
myself looking at married couples being like, oh, they look so unhappy. Look, they're arguing
those poor people. And I actually look at people in relationships as like poor them.
It's us single people living the best life. And I don't want to feel like that. I want
to feel open to love and I want to feel open to having a partner. So now I just have pictures
of couples that I look at their relationship and I
think, well, actually look at them.
They're nice.
They don't wear matching fucking sweaters.
Like they look cool.
So that's what I'm doing.
So yeah, you just need to find what you want in a man.
List it, get really clear about it.
Make a vision board and visualize it as well.
You know, every day find a song that you love
and that makes you feel very like emotional.
Like maybe it could be something you'd have
as your first dance at your wedding.
And visualize in the morning before you get up,
just lay in bed and visualize yourself
like whatever it is you like doing, walking along a beach,
getting fucked, I don't know, what have you on?
And go into that restaurant that you love, Guy Fieri.
You could be going there with this guy.
You just visualize what you guys would be doing.
And I'm telling you, it will come to fruition.
All right.
It's very weird.
Okay.
So like, I do a lot of that in my professional life.
Like I unwittingly like manifest a lot of things
cause I just like, I'm like, oh, I want this.
This will happen.
I don't know when, but it's definitely gonna happen.
And everything I've wanted to happen in my career
has more or less like happened.
There's like a couple of things that I'm trying
to like manifest right now.
But for whatever reason with love, I'm like, I don't know.
I don't think that's a thing I can manifest,
and I don't know why.
Although I did manifest someone last year.
Um, but I didn't...
So I wrote down everything I wanted in a partner.
I forgot to be specific,
and I didn't write down emotionally available.
And this person was not emotionally available whatsoever.
And would, like, tell me one thing, act a different way,
and then the universe was, like, giving me signs that it was done, and, and would like, tell me one thing, act a different way,
and then the universe was like giving me signs
that it was done, and I kept being like,
no, it's not done yet, I'll fight against this.
A weird thing happens when I date people,
and when it has like been finished,
and I know it's finished, but I'm fighting it,
I see their name everywhere.
Ooh.
Like it's a very, like I was dating this one guy,
not a super common name, but I kept seeing his name everywhere and I was like, but I don't want it to be done. And then
it was like fully finished. And then the same thing happened last year. And then recently I saw
my name in a couple places and I was like, am I done with me? You're gonna die. Corona's coming
to get you. I mean, maybe. And I don't want her to come for me.
She's rude.
But yeah, maybe I just need to like hunker down and write down specific things.
Yeah.
I mean, I did not ask for a gay husband, but I fucking got one.
You know, that was not quite on the vision board.
You do need to be very specific.
But also I think being open to red flags
as well. Like I ignore a lot of red flags in people because I think as women, we have this thing where
we're like, but I'm not getting any younger. And especially if you want children, you ignore things.
Um, whereas now that's what I'm saying about having all my children done. If I see a fucking
red dot, I'm done. You're gone. Like, I am not ignoring red flags anymore.
But it's interesting what you say.
I feel very similar in, I find certain aspects of my life very easy to manifest.
Like, money-wise, job-wise, friends, all that kind of thing.
I find it really easy.
Love is difficult.
And for different people, it will be different things.
And that's when you need to start looking at like your love blockages, what's
happened in your past to make you feel this way. So like that's when you can't
start to do a little bit more self-development work and really sort
of go back. So for me for example, my mum and dad were, my dad was an awful, awful
husband and when I was about 11 my mum mom and dad got divorced. And I remember that
period of my life as being the happiest period of my life, because for about two or three
years, my mom was single. She met all these new friends, we would have all these single
mom parties. And it was wild. It was brilliant as a child to witness that I was very proud
of her. And then it only lasted three years. And then she got a relationship just as bad
as the previous one, as a lot of people tend to do. They go for the same thing. And so I can see how in my mind I see together,
bad, independent, single mum, good. I've got that so ingrained in me. And so now I just
need to work on, I know why I've got that, but now I need to work on how do I undo that?
How do I, do you know Paul C. Bronson?
No.
Oh, so he's American. He's from Atlanta, I think. And he does like a lot of the dating shows over
here in the UK. He does like Married at First Sight and stuff. He's like one of the, not judges,
but you know, like a expert. And he's coming to do a second part on my podcast next week to work
on my love blockages. And I'm very excited. Because some of that shit you can't do by yourself, you know?
It's something you've got to work with somebody else.
And I'm clearly not qualified to get through this shit.
That's like so interesting when you say love blockages,
because I...
Maybe I've heard a phrase like that,
but like, it just makes sense that you repeat things
that you've done because you have like a little bit of a blockage
or you have something that happened in your past
that's affecting how you're acting now.
And it's hard to fucking get around it,
because you're in it, you know what I mean?
You're not like outside of it, you can't really see what you're doing.
And also, we're always all evolving.
Like when I look back at the person that I was
when I was married to my ex-husband,
like I was half the person that I am now because of the growth work that I've done with myself,
because of the fucking experiences, the, you know, character building experiences I've
had, like getting divorced is a very character building experience.
You get to work on yourself and, and I think you attract what you kind of deserve.
And maybe back then that's what I deserved.
I was quite a shallow bitch.
I was looking for like someone that would be able
to take care of me and fly me around the world.
And that's what I fucking got.
But I think as you grow and evolve,
that's why I also don't know if you can be
with someone forever.
Because what are the chances that you grow
and evolve together?
Like that's hard.
How do you do that?
I would like to be a sister wife.
That's what I would like.
I actually would.
I really would.
Would you though, would you want somebody else to fuck your man?
I have zero jealousy.
Zero.
I have none.
Do you know what my ex said?
You're like a man.
And I don't know whether he meant that in a good way or a bad way, but I have zero jealousy. Um, I wouldn't mind if they had two other wives.
I'd be like, look, I'll see you Tuesday and Friday.
So my ex that I have the twins with, I said to him, look, I don't think this is working out.
I can't live with someone again.
I'm so used to being by myself.
I can't have you in my space all the time.
I was like, can't we just do what I think a lot of Jamaica men do this where it's like,
I'll see you two days a week.
We have a great life, we spend time together,
we look after our children, and then you go.
You go and you leave me alone for five days.
He was not down for that.
Well, this is, I think what you're describing is like a form of polyamory.
Where it's like you have your main maybe
and then like a couple others, but also it's like,
also it's like you could be with one person
and just be with them sometimes out of the week.
Yeah, just live in your own houses
and just have your own lives as well.
Kind of like in Sex and the City two maybe?
Or maybe it's the first movie?
No, it's the second one, where Carrie was, like,
writing at her apartment or whatever,
and she was like, I think I'm gonna sell it,
and Big's like, why? And she's like, I don't know,
because we live together here, and he's like,
but wouldn't it be nice if you, like, just went
and had your time at the apartment?
And she was like, ha, what?
But then I was like, if I got into a serious relationship
with somebody, I think I would
want them to keep their home.
Like, keep your apartment so you can go there and you could go do whatever you want there
and I could do whatever I want at my place and then we are together when we want to be
together.
But maybe we're unusual in thinking that and that's why we're both single.
Maybe.
But I mean, I think that sounds perfect. I agree with you.
Spending every waking moment with somebody seems just a little exhausting.
Yeah. And then you get so reliant on them. Like, I look back now and I think, God, I
never like, not that I never made plans with friends, but you just tend to not really, like, you're just so reliant on that relationship. You don't see friends as
much. You don't have your own plans as much. And I don't want to go back to that place. I really
enjoy my life. Someone would have to be really special to come in and, and be here now, I think. Mm-hmm. Uh, yeah, I agree with you. It would take somebody, like, incredibly special.
Not just special, but, like, a person that I felt, like, next level feelings about to
just, like, you know, take my time or whatever.
I also need a partner who, like, gets that, like, I work and I'm away a lot.
And it's not them.
It's just that's the nature of my job. So yeah, I just, it's a lot and it's not them. It's just, that's the nature of my job.
So yeah, I just, it's a lot.
Because you travel a lot, don't you?
Mm hmm.
I, I used to.
This could be the change.
And also maybe now you'll meet someone that can work remotely because we're
now all working remotely, so maybe it didn't work before, but now it's going to work for you.
I hope so.
I did a thing that maybe was bad.
So I wrote down all of the qualities I wanted in a partner.
I was like very, very specific.
I put them in an envelope and then I put it in the mailbox.
I just addressed it to like one, two, three, anywhere.
I love it.
L.A. and then put the zip code.
And now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like,
maybe I was, I sent love away
and I should write it down and like keep it with me.
So I'm bringing it towards me and not away from me.
This is true, but I do love the idea of just mailing it and seeing where the hell
does that, someone's going to open it up and be like, I want a big old dick.
What?
What is this?
That was one of those things.
It was like, I want to be deep dicked. I want him to have a big dick. I? What? I mean, that was one of those things. It was like, I want to
be deep dicked. I want him to have a big dick. I want him to like me. I want him to be nice
to me. It was a lot of things. It is a very important, do you know what, just after I
got divorced, in fact, I wasn't even divorced, I met somebody who he was actually a neighbor.
And it kind of got me through my divorce. And I was still living with my ex-husband, had like a one year old baby.
And we had to live together for about a period of six months.
And that's fucking tough living with someone that hates you.
Like it was awful.
And I truly got through it by just dating my neighbor on the next street.
I mean, local dick, convenient.
I'd wait until the baby was asleep and off I'd go.
It was brilliant.
And I've realized you either get someone you find really attractive or you get a big dick. You do never, you never get the two together.
I, yeah, I guess the last two dudes I like dated for more than three days.
One was like kind of cute in a way where like when I was drunk, I'd be like, oh, you're cute. And then sober, I'd be like, I don't know, okay.
I was really indifferent about him sober,
but he had the biggest fucking dick I'd ever seen.
When he pulled down his pants, I just went, oh my.
And I don't think he clocked it,
but I was fully like, wow, this is delightful.
And then I dated another guy who I thought
was like so attractive, just like upon sight.
I was like, you are so fucking hot.
And then he pulled down his pants and I was like, ooh, a grower, not a shower.
But what if it's not a grower or a shower?
It was neither. It was a...
There was there was no growing.
There was nothing. So upsetting.
Yes, for me it was.
And I know some listeners will be like,
it's not nice to talk about people's penises.
But it's like, I don't know, it's my it's what I like.
It's what I want.
It wasn't attracted to some or it wasn't attached to someone who was nice to me.
So that's another thing about it.
But men talk about women all the time.
They talk about women's bodies all the fucking time.
I love that we can now objectify them the way that they objectify us.
It's completely normal.
And your podcast is pretty much one of the only ones I noticed.
You can talk about a guy's dick and be like, go fuck yourself.
And, you know, even at the salon now, we see girls coming in and we're like,
oh, what are you getting a spray tan for?
A dick appointment.
And I'm like, good for you.
I think it's about time that we do the fucking same.
I'm all for it.
I say that, but I'm tired of reading people's comments
where they tell me that it's not nice.
So I do these little disclaimers now because you can't fucking
say anything without someone going, that's mean.
How would you feel if someone said that about you?
And I'm like, I wouldn't care.
I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
People say nasty things about me all the time.
But like, I don't know.
I want a big dick.
That's me.
That's what I want.
But also, if it's a tiny dick attached to a nice person
who learns other ways to please me, that's great too.
But a big dick, I just, it's been a long time
and all I want is to be pounded.
But I did make a dick appointment for two weeks after my second shot because they
say like, you should wait two weeks, I think.
I don't know.
I read that somewhere, but I was talking to this guy and I was like, all right,
two weeks out, let's do this.
I got a hotel room and I'm very excited about it.
You are organized.
You're on it.
Yes. She is. She's had a lot of time inside, a lot of time with herself.
She don't like it. She don't want it.
So, yeah, I was like, we need to make this happen.
I'm like counting down the days.
Oh, Lord. I now feel like I need to be like making preparations.
But who am I kidding? I've got six month old twins.
Nothing is happening for at least,
I'm gonna say another six months.
I'm gonna say Christmas is when I'm gonna have sex
for the next time.
I'm very excited about it.
Very.
I like it, but also get a babysitter now.
They're breastfed so I can't leave them.
Wait, can't you pump it and dump it and put it in a bottle?
It's so hard because there's two of them.
There's never enough milk.
There's like a deficit.
Like I couldn't, it's a very fine balance.
So no, I can't in short, but do you know what?
I'm happy to wait till Christmas.
I feel like I'm physically exhausted, mentally exhausted.
Every spare second that the babies are asleep,
I'm podcasting. Every second.
So I literally don't have a chance to even go on Tinder
at the moment. So it can wait.
My dream man can wait.
Also, what a lovely Christmas present to you.
Ugh, it better be wrapped up in a bow.
BOTH LAUGH
It better be.
What has the vaccine rollout been like in the UK?
Well, it started off as one of the best in the world,
apparently, and then everyone was worried
that they were going to get blood clots.
And then Europe hates us, so then they stopped the vaccine
coming into the country.
And we were like, no, but they offered it to me,
but because I'm breastfeeding, I can't take it.
Even though I have Crohn's disease.
So I'm high risk, I'm risky out here, but I don't care. I'm not going to get it. See,
this is an example of the law of attraction. I'm not going to get it. Doesn't affect me.
Just doesn't.
I mean, I truly say the same thing. I'm like, I'm not going to get it because I'm not an idiot,
and I'm not doing dumb things. And when I go out into the world, I wear my fucking mask and I
just don't do things that are gonna enable me to get it.
I'm excited for you.
Thank you.
I am so excited for myself.
Honestly, like truly, I keep looking at the date.
I put in my calendar as Nicole's big fun day out.
Why not?
I can't fucking wait.
Oh, God, I wish I could do that.
Honestly, babies are a cockblog, 100%.
Like, I feel like it's not the done thing.
I can't be seen to be on Tinder or going out
and, like, have two young babies attached to me all the time.
But you wait. Christmas.
But you did say you get chatted up more when you're pregnant than you're not
pregnant, so maybe they, maybe, maybe you should wear a fake belly when you're
trying to find a man.
I mean, that might make me even weirder in this very small village that I've moved
to and people already think I'm crazy.
They're like, man, this woman moved in and she's wearing this fake stomach.
Sometimes she has it, sometimes she doesn't.
I don't know.
Let's marry her.
And people hear talk.
That's the thing.
Do they?
It's not London.
This is like a village.
So people know all your business.
Like I came out my house this morning.
I had a crazy party in my garden last night with some of my friends, burnt a load of fence
panels, got Chinese, got drunk.
And I came out this morning and my neighbor was like, I saw your Instagram
stories, had a good night, did you?
And I'm like, oh, look, they know everything.
Like in London, you could fuck everyone on your street and no one would know.
But here, no.
That's so funny.
I've never really lived, I guess growing up, I lived in a small nook town where
people like were nosy and knew things.
I just couldn't imagine people in my business like that. Well, sometimes the neighbors will be like, did you see this? And I'm like, oh, I did see this. And I'm
like, oh, okay. So I guess it is like a little bit of neighborhood gossip. That's fun.
I like it.
You're not in my business.
I do enjoy it. And also, I'm a very open person. I truly don't give a shit what people think,
but it can fuck you up because like I say,
the place I used to live with my ex-husband, I mean, I fucked my neighbor.
And so I can't go back there now.
I've ruined that for myself.
He's told me I'm not allowed back.
So you do have to be careful.
You said the rest of Europe hates the UK.
Is it because of Brexit?
I don't understand Brexit.
Oh, truly, who does?
But basically, we are now on our own.
Europe hates us.
Everyone hates us.
We let European refugee children drown in the sea.
No one gives a shit.
Yeah, it's the worst, but we're under a Tory government.
So it's like a Republican government.
So it's the worst.
It's truly the worst, but we're living through it.
So the UK was a part of the European Union?
Yeah. And the European Union did amazing things. They imposed levels of pollution that you
could have. So one of the reasons I moved from London as well is that the legal level
of pollution on the street that I lived on was consistently 18 times above the legal limit.
And so every day the government would just pay these fines to Europe.
Instead of changing it and bringing the pollution down, they'd be like,
oh, we'll pay the fines.
So Europe held us accountable for a lot of things, a lot of our animal welfare
things, the way that food is produced.
Um, I sound knowledgeable on this now, but I don't really know what I'm talking about.
You are. You were like, I don't know, but then you're like telling me a bunch of shit
that I was like, oh, cool. I didn't know that.
Europe's just brilliant, really, and very sort of progressive and forward-thinking.
And then you've got all these people in England that are like,
England's my place, these Europeans can't tell me what to fucking do.
And now we've like regressed back 10 years and we're all on our own and it's shit.
No. But I do want to come. I've never been.
I want to come so bad. I want to see you.
I want to see the babies.
Nicole, you need to come.
And I want to meet Bo. She's so fucking cute.
She's hilarious and she loves you.
She...
And I love her.
I'm terrified because I do feel like I'm raising her
to be a young gay man because all she watches is RuPaul's Drag Race. She loves you. She, I love her. I'm terrified because I do feel like I'm raising her to
be a young gay man because all she watches is RuPaul's Drag Race. She loves you. She
loves Lizzo. But one thing I'm so happy about is all these people that she loves, because
RuPaul's Drag Race, some people might think not for a child, Fran, not for a child, but
she has a gay dad. And he has a boyfriend now that lives with him, George, very lovely guy.
And I remember at school, we had one boy who had two moms and people used to take the piss
out of him and we didn't know any better.
So I feel like there is going to come a day where her friends are going to realize that
her dad has a boyfriend rather than a girlfriend.
And so I'm just trying to make it so normal, so a part of her life and a positive part
of her life, you know?
Like, it's a good thing, it's a fun thing.
But also what I was going to say with you and Lizzo, she loves both of you.
And when you sent her, you very kindly sent her and the twins some clothes, she was like,
but I don't understand, who sent this to us?
And I was like, oh, it's a lady called Nicole.
And she's like, but why she sent us all these clothes? And I was like, do, it's a lady called Nicole. And she's like, but why she sent us all
these clothes? And I was like, do you know what? She's very, very rich. She's very, very famous.
She is very like, she's the most successful person I know. Do you want to see her? And she was like,
yeah. So I got up. I don't think it was nailed it. I can't remember what I showed her, but I showed
her something and I was so happy that you weren't a skinny white bitch.
Do you know what I mean?
Because my daughter is mixed race.
She's quite dark mixed race.
And it's like, I love that the people she loves, you and Lizzo,
both times she's asked to see someone that she loves,
but she doesn't know she loves, it's someone who looks like her.
And I'm like, Nicole is the richest person I know.
She's the most successful person I know.
Look at her, Beau.
That could be you.
And now I understand why representation is so important
because she knows a lot of old white men.
They're all quite, you know, ordinary and poor.
She sees you and she's like, oh, okay.
I can be Nicole.
I can be Lizzo.
I can be fucking RuPaul. Maybe not RuPaul. She can be RuPaul. She can be Nicole, I can be Lizzo, I can be fucking RuPaul.
Maybe not RuPaul.
She can be RuPaul, she can be whatever she wants.
I do appreciate that you do show her people who look like her,
because, I don't know, I feel like sometimes white parents of mixed children kind of neglect that part,
where it's like they need to see representation of themselves
because they're not seeing it at home.
And I've seen her with like little black dolls,
and I think that's like really great.
Is it hard raising a mixed-race child?
Um, yeah, and it's only just coming about now
because she's getting older and she's starting to like notice things.
Um, but we moved from London, where it's very diverse,
to this little village where she's not the
only mixed-race child. There's a couple, but it's a very, very white area. And on her first
day of school, she just out of the blue said to me, I'm not pretty and I don't want to
go to school today because my eyes aren't blue. And I was like, Oh God.
Oh no.
Yeah. And it made me so sad, but my sister bought her like a couple of books about like skin
color and stuff like that.
But then I didn't want to make it a really big deal for me.
It was more powerful to be like, Oh, look, someone sent you a load of clothes.
Do you want to see who it is?
And it just so happened to be and the same she we went to Glastonbury two summers ago
and she loves Lizzo.
She's obsessed with Lizzo.
And so she wanted to start watching her videos on TV.
And I think when we were at Glastonbury, she didn't actually properly see her. She just loves the songs.
And I love that when she wanted to see her, it's like, this is what Lizzo looks like.
Like this is, and I just love it that it's just worked out every time with her little idols that
every time it's been a representation of, it's who she could be. She could grow up to be that.
So I'm very thankful to you, Nicole. Nicole Well, I try and I'm thankful to you
because you let me send you a flamingo lamp. Elina Fucking hell, that fucking lamp. I swear
to God, I have never hated you more. Nicole It was so hard.
Elina It took up my whole house. Nicole It was so hard to figure out how to get it picked up.
And like, every company was like,
oh yeah, we can pick it up.
So then I would schedule it and they're like,
oh, we can't pick it up.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
You said you could.
And then DHL did it.
And then also delivered me what I sent you
and then a box of cards with cats on them.
And I was like, what is this?
How crazy?
And I went through it and I was like, oh, this isn't even addressed to me.
And I was like, oops.
And then I had to call DHL to give it back to them.
And they're like, this is the wrong package.
And I was like, I don't, I don't know.
I don't, I just take it.
It was a, it was a long ordeal.
So God bless.
Thank you so much for letting me do that.
It was, those boxes were definitely bigger than I ever anticipated, but it started.
I didn't realize.
But it's because the company just wouldn't ship it to America. And I was like, I need this flamingo lamp.
But yeah, I've been like, wallpaperingapering badly. Uh, yeah, I've had too much time.
Well, we've all done.
I painted my kitchen pink during lockdown.
I mean...
Ooh, but I love that.
That's cute.
It is quite cute, but I can't wash it.
It's not scrubbable, so it's not great.
But there is that girl that wants to do a mural for you, and you should take her up
on it because she could draw anything.
She could draw you being banged by a guy with a big dick.
Oh my god.
In a tiger skin coat with a cowboy hat on.
That would be true manifestation, like, just to look every day
at a picture of me with a huge dick next to it.
It would be like, okay, I'm looking at it.
I'll close my eyes.
I'll wish for it.
Okay, let's start my day.
There you go. I just gotta find a wall for her to do something on.
Or a ceiling.
She could do some sort of Michelangelo shit, I don't know.
Okay.
I gotta think.
I've been trying to like slow my roll a little bit because I keep getting things.
And I recently just got my, I got a westbound bed.
It was a whole debacle.
This woman at customer service was so mean to me.
But then they like worked it out and they were very kind.
Oh, is that Bo?
Sorry, yes.
It's okay.
Look, it's Nicky Bo.
Say hello.
Yeah.
The babies are crying.
And Bo's both of them.
They're both crying.
I can hear them.
They're both crying?
Ethan's the light is on and, and, and, and, and, Ethan we're not going to go to bed.
Oh good lord. I was just telling Nicole how much you love her and Lizzo and Drag Race.
She got nothing to say. She's like, now I'm quiet. I just came in to deliver some news and I'm finished.
Also, I don't look like me.
I don't have any hair right now.
So she's like, who's this bald headed woman?
Also, she can't hear you.
I've just realized.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
She's not wearing headphones.
I was like, I'm talking to you.
What are you doing?
Isn't it cool?
No.
Ask Bo, who her favorite queen is from UK. Bo, who is your favorite queen? What are you doing? Isn't it good? No.
Ask Bo who her favorite queen is from UK.
Bo, who is your favorite queen from RuPaul's Drag Race?
Um, Lauren.
I can't remember. Laurence Cheney?
Yes.
Or Bimini Bomboulash?
Bimini Bomboulash.
I call her Bimini Bomboulash now.
That is Bo's new name.
Go to bed.
I love that.
She's so cute.
She's so big.
Yeah, well, her dad's six foot nine, so that's a big kid.
How old is she?
She's only four.
Yeah, she's fucking huge.
She's so tall.
She's going to be a supermodel, I'm telling you.
I love it.
She could be a supermodel, make money, pay for her own college, and then take care of you.
Mama don't gotta work no more.
No more podcasting at 2 a.m. for me.
Okay.
So your advice for me is to do the laws of attraction, do a vision board.
Is there any other advice that you have for me? Visualize to music is very powerful. Do it every day. If you do something once, it's
like doing a workout once, it's not going to change your life. If you do it every day,
it will, we're doing a book at the moment on our Patreon, it's called Atomic Habits
and it's all about changing your behavior just 1% a day. And if you improved something
1% a day, by the end of the year, you'd be 37 times better, isn't that wild?
That is.
It makes sense though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Repetition makes you better at anything you're trying to do.
Yeah.
Just small things every day, just a minute spent, just every morning, put
that song on, whatever you choose your song to be, visualize this man coming
into your life, and if you can't picture him, visualize, like, the feeling of how you'll feel.
And, yeah, do a vision board, put it where you'll see it.
Bing bang bong, sing sang songs.
And he comes.
BOTH LAUGH
OK, I ask all of my guests this.
Would you date me?
One hundred percent, but only if you'd take on me
and all of my screaming children.
You know, I'd have to think about it. 100%, but only if you'd take on me and all of my screaming children.
You know, I'd have to think about it.
Uh...
It's gonna be a no from me, dog.
Fran.
I would come just to move to Hollywood.
I mean, I'll leave the children.
I'll leave them behind and I'll come.
Come to LA.
I mean, I would love for you, Nick, you call her Kay, I call her Skeeter,
Skeeter and John to just like move to LA and be near me.
We do talk about that being our dream.
It's going to happen.
I'm manifesting it, baby.
It's all I fucking want.
I just want like a neighborhood of all of my friends where we just like hang out and
have a very nice time.
Okay.
What's the name of your Patreon?
Cause we've come to the end and I want you to
plug it. I don't know what my Patreon is called, but my podcast is Law of Attraction Changed My
Life. It's the same name, baby. I don't know. But it's all on there. It's on my podcast. I link it
fucking everywhere. If you go on my Instagram, it's linked there. If you go on my podcast,
it's linked there. You can't get away from it. Tell the people what your Instagram is. My Instagram is at law of attraction changed my life.
Or if you want to see pictures of twins
in little matching clothes, it's at Francesca Amber.
And yeah, I have all of my links on there
for my Patreon, my podcast, whatever you wanna do.
I love it, Fran.
Thank you so much for doing this.
Franny Fran. OK.
No, thank you.
If you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me, do other people call you Franny?
Just you and I love it.
I just like started doing it at Kay's bachelorette.
I was just like, I guess, was that a bachelorette?
No, it was her 30th birthday.
Oh. But we were very drunk. I was just like, I guess, was that a bachelorette? No, it was our 30th birthday.
But we were very drunk. It was Napa Valley.
Like very drunk the whole time.
And I love that on the way to like different wineries, we're just like on this party bus drinking vodka.
And I was like, this is how you keep the party going.
You got to drink in between the wine.
Obviously.
I had a lovely fucking time and I love that I'm the only person who calls you Franny.
Anyway, if you like this episode of Oh, I Want You To Date Me, you can like it, you
can rate it, you can subscribe it.
Subscribe to it.
You write it five stars on Apple Podcasts.
I don't know.
You'd think I'd be like better at doing this little outro.
I've been doing this podcast for a lifetime.
But if you write me something nasty, I will read it.
This person, it's not nasty nasty, but it it says, Hey, Nicole, I want to treat you
like my homework, slam you down on my desk and do you all night long.
Very nice.
Very kind.
Also like kind of sweet.
Did they leave a number?
They didn't leave a number.
Unfortunately, no number.
Okay.
Bye bye.
That's it for Why Won't You Date Me with me, Nicole Byer.
Why Won't You Date Me is produced and engineered by, oh the sweetest woman I know, Marissa Melnick.
It is executive produced by other wonderful people, Adam Sacks, Joanna Solo Taroff, and Jeff Ross.
Thanks for listening! I love you, thank you so much!
We'll be seeing you next Friday with a brand new episode! What a dream!