Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Bisexual Erasure (w/ Stephanie Beatriz)

Episode Date: April 15, 2022

Actress Stephanie Beatriz (Encanto, Brooklyn Nine-Nine) chats with Nicole about leaving a 9 year relationship, dealing with bisexual erasure, and explains the scam behind the cult-like Twin Flames dating platform. Nicole recounts her wild experience hosting the Critics' Choice awards. Crazy dating story? Looking for advice? Want to leave Nicole a dirty message? Submit it all to [e-mail] for a chance to have it read on-air.   Black Lives Matter. Click here for an updated list of over 100 different things you can do to support racial justice.   Follow Nicole Byer: Tour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenTwitter: @nicolebyerInstagram: @nicolebyerNew Merch!! podswag.com/datemeNicole's book: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746 

Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell me why! Oh baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me, a podcast where me and Nicole Byer tries to figure out how I'm still single, even though you could come in my toothpaste and say it makes your teeth stronger. My guess. I didn't know where it was going, and it really finished off so well. Oh, boy. I've been doing the podcast for like four years, so they just get wilder and wilder.

Well, okay. Let me do a proper introduction. Okay. So my guest today, the voice you've heard, is an actress that you know from Brooklyn Nine-Nine, voiced and starred in Disney's Encanto, has a new podcast, Twin Flame, which highlights a cult-like dating platform created by two YouTubers. I am so thrilled

to have Stephanie Beatriz! Hey! Hoop-a-doo! Hi, hi, hi! That was the crowd roaring. I love it. Thank you. So we were talking beforehand about Scrabble, and then we were talking about Wordle. Do you Wordle?

I don't Wordle. I don't wordle i don't wordle i i you know what i really vehemently dislike the posts on twitter with like all the little green squares i just feel like you know share it with your friends share share it on your inside in your group text maybe not on your twitter why subject me to it why make it public why why brag so hard about something that's like mostly about chance isn't it i think it's like chance but people have strategies and shit and i tried to do it twice and i've never gotten it and it's really frustrating i was like oh i't know. I didn't know five letter words. I didn't know.

I don't want to challenge myself in that way. You know what? Life is full of lots of hoops that I have to jump through and hurdles I have to overcome. Wordle is a self-imposed disaster for me. So I'm not going down that road. Me either. It's just not for me. Okay.

I have a question. I know you're married. Yes. Will you tell me how you met your husband? Yes, I will. Okay. The long story or the short story? Listen, I want to hear the long story because I love love.

Great. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it starts with me being in a relationship with someone else for nine years. Nine years? Yes. And when I was in that relationship, that person was older than me. And so I was like, wow, they're so smart and they're such an artist and they're so good at their craft and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And so I thought that I was the dummy and that this person had so much to teach me. I was the dummy and that this person had so much to teach me. And there was a point in the relationship where I said, you know, do you think like maybe we could ever get married? Like I don't want to be, you know, conformist, but I think maybe I'd like to be married. I'm not sure. Like what do you think about that? And the person that I was with said, well, I want to feel married before we get married. What?

Exactly. But nine years. That's correct. And so like, when I think back on it, I'm like, that is the most manipulative, weird, fucked up thing to say to someone. It is essentially saying, you know, at some point that I know, me over here, the all-knowing, right? At some point that I know, I will deem you worthy enough of marriage, but I must feel it somehow, some way, before I commit in this way. And like, I basically, I think it was,

I mean, honestly, it was when I used to smoke weed and now I don't. And I think it was sort of like on the journey of stopping to do that. I was like, oh, maybe this is like not a good relationship, question mark, you know? But I had been in it for so long that I was like, well, how do I get out, you know? Like how do I leave after nine years, almost 10 years, you know? So I did. I got out.

And the dating apps were brutal because when I first started that relationship, it was like that was not how you did it. You just met people and, you know, you took a risk and asked someone to dinner or asked someone to coffee or whatever. So I got on the dating apps and I got on Raya. Raya? Raya? Raya worked for you.

Raya doesn't work for me. Oh, what a dream. It's only because I found like the only person on it that was not in our industry. Like he just happened to know the guys that started the app and they gave him like a membership. And so he was like this totally normal norm normie. He's like a super normie and he it was awesome because like the other people that i was sorting with were all like in our industry and like as you know we're megalomaniac narcissists yes brain you know

even if we're not we're very focused i mean neither one of us well you know we're very like just a little you have to like really love yourself to be like, I'm better than everyone sitting in this room in Santa Monica and I'm going to book it. I think you do. I think you have to believe that you have something really special. there's a there's a very fine line between believing you have something special and believing you are the most special thing that ever fucking walked the planet right and so like yeah unfortunately that is oftentimes artists like lean into that sort of like i'm better than everyone else and that's a recipe for disaster when you're dating because like it's painful it's really painful to date people like that so we we messaged a little bit on the app and then we took it off the app as quickly

as possible i was like do you want to go get drinks or something and then we started dating and i was seeing some other people and like it just sort of like and i've i've i think i've said this story in interviews before but like there was a party and I had gotten a little tipsy at the party and I was like how do you feel about being a stay at home dad and he was like I feel great about it

he was like oh yeah no that sounds awesome to me and I was like oh no oh you called my bluff oh no I guess we have to have a baby now and uh and you stay home and that's what we do and then i'd like pursue my career and interests with like no real problem oh no so yeah that's sort of like how it happened oh that's so funny yeah to like ask somebody and then just kind of expect a different

answer but then they're like oh no i'm totally chill with your dreams happy to happy to help and you're like oh fuck okay yeah all right i guess we do this it did make me like it i expected that he was going to be like i don't know about that you know like i expected it was going to be like every other day that i'd gone on and one of which one of the guys was be like, I don't know about that. You know, like I expected it was going to be like every other day that I'd gone on. And one of which one of the guys was like, yeah, I just don't see myself like having kids or getting married until like I'm a lot older. You know, like I'm thinking like around 50. I really want to like pursue my career.

And I was like, we're the same age. He was like, yeah. I was like, so what are you saying to me? Because like I was very clear on our messaging. Like I was very clear. Like I'm trying to like find a partner to do life with. So are you fucking dicking around? Like why are we at Mexican restaurant eating tacos?

Like if this, what is, what are we doing? What are we doing? Also fully wild to me that anybody wants to have a child at 50. Like I get having a career and like having a kid later in life, but 50 is when I'm trying to wind down. Listen, no one, no women, most women are probably not trying to have a kid at 50.

No. It's all dudes that want to hand it off. Like, they want to have the sort of, you know, the feeling of, I'm going to live forever through my child. And then they want to hand off the responsibility of doing anything or having any like big part in it to someone else because like if you're 50 that's like a lot to undertake like you've been by yourself for 50 years like now

you're gonna start taking i mean it's hard enough now like i've been by myself for 40 years and like all of a sudden there's like another little person that's like hey what's up I need to eat and you need to change my shitty diaper or like something bad could happen you know something bad could happen I could die you gotta take care of me

that is so crazy cause like I yesterday at 5pm was like I didn't take my dog for a walk. And then I was like, no, no, you did. You absolutely did. You gave him a treat. He would be begging to go outside.

You're fine. You're fine. So I'm like, what happens if I have a full ass baby? I'll be like, I forgot to take it out of the crib. Well, luckily, they're really loud. So there's not really a chance unless you just like close the door and put your earphones on and like la la la la like a kook. Nothing here. Nothing here.

It's all fine. Okay. So you went to an all women's college in Missouri. Yeah, baby. Yeah. What was it like going to an all womenwomen's college in Missouri. Yeah, baby. Yeah. What was it like going to an all-women's college? Well, let me tell you, as a budding bisexual,

it was fantastic. I was not fully like, I didn't totally understand that I was bi, I don't think, until I was in college. And it was something that I'd always, I don't think, until I was in college. And like, it was something that I'd always kind of known about myself. But I think that's why I was drawn to a women's college, honestly, because I thought about like, well, who's going to choose a women's college, right?

Like, what kinds of people are going to choose a women's college? And, you know, I think a liberal arts women's college is probably a place where you're going to find quite a few like budding lesbians, budding bisexuals, you know, like – and I was right. openly living like as people that were just like openly LGBTQ was awesome because it was like, oh, look at how happy and thriving everybody is. And look at how welcoming they are. And look how excited they are to express themselves, you know, particularly because I grew up in a really pretty, I would say like kind of conservative-y area texas it was like amazing to be at a women's college and be like it was fun it was really fun amazing time yeah i love that you went to missouri to like really like find your sexuality because when i think of missouri i'm not like, ooh, hotbed of sex. You'd be surprised. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, retrospectively, should I perhaps have gone to like, I don't know, New York? Maybe. But for my 18-year-old

self, I was like, wow, the bright lights of Missouri. Sounds great. Do you find you encounter like bi erasure since you are married to a man? Because I feel like sometimes when women say they're bisexual and then they end up, you know, in a long term relationship with a man, people like, well, I guess you weren't bi anyway. I know. Yeah. But like, you don't know who I'm attracted to. Like, what? Like, it's so strange.

I think bi erasure happens all the time. It's so strange. I think bi erasure happens all the time. You know, whether or not you're in a gay presenting or a straight presenting relationship. Because, like, people look at the person that you're with to define you. Which, like, across the board, it's such a weird thing that we do. You know? It's like, I look at this person that you've chosen and I learn more about you. That's one way to look at it.

But then it's also like, I look at this person that you've chosen and I, and I learn more about you, that's one way to look at it. But then it's also like, I look at this person that you've chosen and I put you, put you in a box, which is like, that's really shitty that we do it, you know, like that. I think it's so shitty. It's like, I just, I, I really like taking, taking enough time to at least learn something about someone, even if I, in the end I judge them a little bit. It's like, well, I tried to take my time and figure out what this person was about before I wrote them off. And I think bisexuality is really difficult in that way because it's a series of little coming out moments for the rest of your life. You're just always constantly explaining and trying to You're just always constantly explaining and trying to, you know, remind. Like I remember being on a set for a film and I was really excited.

I was talking about my bachelorette and how excited I was and going to Disneyland and doing the whole thing. And, you know, 10 women. It was going to be amazing. And the costume designer, somebody was like, oh, are are you gonna get those little headbands with like the little penises on them and i said and i thought okay i could just keep the conversation moving or what i did was well i'd have to get a headband that had maybe like a penis and a vagina i guess because i'm bisexual but i also don't choose my partner based on their genitalia. So I don't know. I don't think that's totally right for me.

And they sort of like looked at me like deer in the headlights. Like, oh, no. This has become like a whole conversation that I didn't want to have. But I think it's important for me to try to. I think it's such. I mean, I think so many people try to just kind of move the conversation forward in those uncomfortable moments. And like, I would rather slow down and like pump the brakes and be like, you just said something like kind of maybe fucked up that you didn't maybe realize was fucked up. But I'm going to point out that it's fucked up in a graceful and nice, slightly funny way so that you go home and think about it, you know?

See, I like that because I feel like sometimes you try to be playful with people to be like oh maybe you shouldn't say that and then they're like oh no oh i guess i offended you it's just like maybe the next time you open your mouth to somebody you say something with a little bit more thought yeah yeah i mean i think i i think if people don't get called out they don't they learn, you know? And some people don't want to learn. Most people don't want to learn. But at least for the other people in the room, right? At least for the other people in the room to see me as a person, right? As a Latina, as a woman, as a queer person to sort of say, no, not allowed to do that. Not going to just glide over it for your comfort. Going to make a point to say something so that everyone in the room feels like, ugh. You know, like I would prefer that in a try to gracefully, like you said, like a graceful kind of funny way. Like I thought one of the things, I was at Critics' Choice when you were hosting

and I thought one of the things that you did that was so funny was like you would deliver these lines and then like to the camera, blink, blink, blink, blink. Like it was so funny and it was so subtle, but so not. You know what I mean? Like there's something very, it was very clear what you were doing as somebody that appreciates comedy and subtlety slash not i just think that's the kind of stuff that i think is like really brilliant it's like that's you can't miss that i felt

insane hosting it was so great it was fantastic during the red carpet somebody asked me they were like it feels like the pandemic is over and i was like but it's not we just don't depend on the ford test our government gave if one if somebody gets sick here we will get medical attention to probably be fine that's great this is just privilege and then i was like oh no and then during the show i was like really just feels like I'm interrupting a work conference where people are getting together, hugging. And then this lady comes over the loudspeaker. She's like, sit down.

Five, four, three. And I was like, and now I have to be funny? This, I feel crazy. I've never experienced it in my life. Fucking great. For feeling as crazy as you're expressing right now, it was my life. Fucking great. For feeling as crazy as you're expressing right now, it was great. It was hilarious.

It was fun. It moved. I thought like I had a great time. I mean. Oh, good. It was great. It's funny because like you do things and then you're like, I don't know if a single person actually liked it.

I'm the next thing. Yeah. And then at one point, I don't know if you guys heard it in the ballroom, but there was like a fire alarm thing that was like, hey, Kate, the building. I did hear it. We all just sat there.

We all just sat there. I was like, well, I guess this is it. This is how we're going out. Everyone backstage was like, oh my God. My hair girl was like, I got the food. We got to go. And I was like, Maria, where are you going? Oh, my God.

And then there was this garage door thing that there was a chair right where it would land. So it kept going up and down. And I was like, are we dying? What is happening? Oh, boy. It was truly wild. Shout out to your hairdresser because those looks, I noticed the looks changing and changing. Thank you.

Oh, my God. I loved. She had a ladder at one point because I couldn't sit in the dresses because I'd wrinkle them. Hell, yes. So she was just on a ladder, like, fixing wigs to my head. It was fun. I hope there's photos or video of that is there oh i don't know if we did it damn it because it was a live show so things kept happening where they're

like we need you in five actually we need you in 20 right 20 is now two seconds and you're like okay yeah yeah i uh hosting is a it's an interesting skill that uh boggles my mind every time i do it and it happens and it's okay yeah man it's really like because you've done a lot of hosting like i feel like you've done a lot and do you feel like you're like as you keep doing it you want to keep doing it or is it just like i'm so curious about it i like doing it because uh i like myself and i like uh interjecting myself into the copy or whatever yeah um but sometimes you're just like oh there's so many levels to get like if you pitch a joke it's like oh okay so you have the producers other producers the network another network so then it's just like okay well if it takes this long to get a joke approved i might as well just try to make

what is written my own and have fun with it yeah and that is a challenge but i do like doing it yeah yeah i think i i mean i i find it admirable when it's good because i'm like wow this person's like they're really doing it they're like up there doing it and it's funny and like it's moving and like because you can tell the difference when it's when it's not good it's really hard yeah it's really painful how did you get into acting did you go to school for acting yeah i i started doing it i started doing it in middle school because my my middle school had like different electives that you could take. I went to public school and they had drama

as an elective and you know like everything in Texas everything is a competition so they would have like organized competitions for theater basically and so like I did that in high school and then I just really liked it. I felt like I

felt like I had found the thing that I was good at that I felt like it was undeniable. Meaning that like, you know, when you make somebody laugh or move somebody, it's undeniable. The sound comes out of them, you know, or like the emotion comes out of them. And like, it's really satisfying. And I think I just wanted to keep doing that. I wanted to be able to be an open channel that way for stories. And so I found a school that paid mostly for me to go. And then I moved to New York after that because I thought I wanted to be a theater actor. Same.

I thought I was going to be on Broadway. Oh, me too, honey. And Broadway said, ma'am, you can't sing, but you can sing. Broadway was like, ma'am, you're not white. I don't know what to do with you. We're not sure. Yeah, that's sort of how it felt to me, at least at the time. It felt very much like there were certain things that i quote unquote could

fit in at the time and like i just didn't it wasn't it wasn't a good fit i didn't feel like it was a good fit although i think regional theater felt better to me i was like oh because like people are doing shakespeare or like ar like Arthur Miller plays and they're casting like all kinds of different people, you know, like that. Yeah. They're doing a production of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf. And I think Honey and Nick are. I think that's her name. Yeah.

Maybe it's not Honey. It's Honey. They're two Latinx performers. And I was like, oh, I love that. Yeah. I love that. Because it's such. ex-performers and I was like ooh I love that yeah I love that

because it's such oh Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf is such a fucking good piece of theater when it's done right and I was like and I'd only seen it with white people and I was like I feel like you could like mix this up I feel like you would be nice yeah like why can't we fucking do this why can't we do that well we

can right like I just did I did a play I did live my like theater kid dreams came true this this past um december january and february because i did a play in the west end and i was like living for it i mean it was a four-hander it was really very similar to who's afraid of virginia wolf and that it's like four people and also my character is like the honey character. She just gets trashed over the course of the play. But it was like amazing to be on stage in the West End, like literally like name and lights, like outside of the theater,

like on a sign, like the whole thing. And the only other Latino people that like, I really met while I was there, family, friends of family. And then the people cleaning the theater backstage and like

one of the guys was like you know how excited we all are because like you're on stage like you're there we're back here but you're up there and I was like that just fucking gave me chills because like the older I get I'm like representation fucking matters

it really does it matters seeing yourself somewhere matters and that's like I'm so happy you were able to like do that for somebody do you know what I mean like for them to be like oh yeah I she's up there I could fucking do that yeah man like that's that's also why I'm so loud about being bi people some you know shitty people but people say things like why do we need to know we don't need to know like why do we care why do you keep talking about it's like because there's some person somewhere that feels weird or like they can't say it or whatever or like is afraid that they're never gonna you know xyz because of this thing so like if i'm loud about

it and i'm saying like i'm'm doing all right, you know, like, I mean, listen, I go to therapy, but like, you know, like I'm doing okay. Like I'm all right. You know, you could be all right too. I think it's important. I think that's why I talk about therapy ad nauseum because I'm like, it's helpful. And then it's extremely helpful when people like in the beginning of my career were like, thank you for being fat. And I'd be like, you're welcome. But then I understood and I was like, oh, there's really not that many of us. Truly, I could count on two hands the amount of working, fat, black, female identifying actresses.

And it's like, oh, yeah. I guess when there's a lot more, than people don't have to thank me for it right but at first i was like the fuck no no i absolutely get it yeah but it is it is at first it can be like excuse me i'm just like trying to live like i'm just trying to live and act and like be funny and like like do the thing like what i don't need your weird what are you putting on me yeah what are you doing and then I was just like oh no I actually get it. I have okay so you've gotten to work with

Lin-Manuel Miranda twice now? That's correct. And that's fun. I love Lin-Manuel. I think he's so wonderful and I haven't gotten a chance to like actually collaborate with him. We did a show at I think it's so wonderful. And I haven't gotten a chance to like actually collaborate with him.

We did a show at I think it was BAM in Brooklyn where it was this American life stories put on their feet. So I got to work adjacent to him and I thought it was so wonderful to watch him work. But may I ask, what is it like working with him? It's wonderful. He is like he's your biggest cheerleader. He thinks you can do anything. Even when you think you, when you know in your soul that you cannot, he thinks you can do it. And then somehow you rise to the occasion and do it. Like there were notes in some of those songs that I was like, I don't know, Lynn. And he was like, yeah, no problem.

You got this. And so because he said, yeah, no problem. You got this. I was like yeah no problem you got this and so because he said yeah no problem you got this i was like i guess i have to got that like i guess i have to get there right so yeah i think he's just he's like your biggest cheerleader he's also super mellow he's also like the sort of he just like he'll alternately be like so warm and sunshiny and then be like the driest most like like elaine stritchy bitchy theater lady you know like oh it's so glorious when he slides into that like he's just like great and i think he knows also that he has stuff to learn you know i think that's the you know i read this interview the other day um with him and ariana debose um and they were sort of interviewing each other and one of the things he said in there was part of the reason he wanted to do mary poppins was

because he wanted to watch rob marshall direct so that he could learn how to direct and I was like smart smart and so I was like how can I model that like what do I want to what do I want to like I want to learn how to be an action star I want to learn how to you know carry a dramatic series like I want to learn how to I mean like what do you want to learn like you know like when you think about it that way i mean i desperately want to learn how to direct i think it's i watched zola and i was like boy oh boy what a like beautiful bubble of a movie where it's like this whole world was created and it was magical and sometimes the characters told you things without speaking and just just like with like looking at it and i was like oh my god this is majestic and i absolutely adore it so yeah i really want to get into directing and i i've been trying to like figure that out and shadow a little

bit you've directed you directed an episode of brooklyn right yeah i directed an episode of brooklyn yeah yeah just the one i mean i would love to direct again i think it's like to an episode of Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah. Just the one. I mean, I would love to direct again. I think it's like, I find it extremely challenging because I don't,

what's a fast way to say this? I find it extremely challenging because it's like balancing all sorts of personalities at the same time that you're trying to like say something creative especially on tv because like tv becomes like a machine like it knows yes especially like on a comedy like it knows how to run itself so like there's very little that i think you can bring to the table and add unless you really have a distinct point of view about comedy and like and then that also takes trust too because like i didn't i'll be honest like

sometimes i didn't trust the directors that we had on brooklyn especially like you know like when somebody would confuse me for melissa like oh i'd be like no i don't trust you i don't i can't i'm not gonna wait honestly did that really fucking happen? Oh, yeah, that happened more than once. Especially in the beginning, like when like before the show sort of really hit. We had a couple of people that confused me, Melissa. And like. I get it.

No. I mean. No. Only because like sometimes I confuse like two white dudes like sometimes I mean we look totally different like you look so different one two there aren't that many characters to keep track of it's not that many it's not that many it's just like that's your fucking job yeah to just know the difference between actors I know even if it's like to me i'm like i would prefer to call someone like hey friend as opposed to like saying the wrong name just like really make sure like

constantly saying the wrong name like i can tell the olsen twins apart so it's like they should be able to tell you and melissa apart like that just, like, down to the costuming. Like, even if you call me my character name, that's fine. Yes. That's fine, you know? So, I think, like, it does take a lot of, like, trust. I think people – and that's why, like, film directing is probably a very – I would imagine it's a completely different experience because you are the guide as opposed to you coming in and, like, steering the like part of the journey you are the guide you are i'm the captain you know like yeah you're you're the guide of the whole thing yeah i uh shadowed rick page for a little bit and love that the best man i've ever met and he truly was like i didn't know that dps had to know about lighting and at one point i was like rick you know so

much about cameras and lighting. It's kind of incredible. And then he like laughed. And then I was like, why did he laugh? And then later he was like, are you kidding or no? And I was like, oh no. And he was like, Nicole, that's my whole job. And I was like, oh no. I didn't know that either. I didn't know. I didn't know those things either. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know those things either. I didn't know. I remember thinking like at one point when,

when Rick started DPing Brooklyn Nine-Nine, I was like, wow, the lights are like really good in this scene. And I think I said something to him. I was like, the lights look amazing. And he kind of like, you know,

cut like very humble. Rick was like, oh, thank you. And I was like, I wonder why he, oh, right.

Oh yeah. He works to light people. He tells people how to do it. Yeah. was like oh thank you and i was like i wonder why he oh right yes oh yeah that's he was delighted people he tells people how to do it yeah yeah it's it was so funny i just like truly didn't know um real quick we gotta take a break okay and oh we're back okay i really want to talk to you about twin flames it was launched february 21st and so you know the scoop you know the scoop all about these people jeff and shalia shalia who promised their followers the secrets of true love and finding one's twin flame. So what, what else can you, so people have to like pay these two people to like, Oh,

I love this. I love this laugh. Listen, they, these two, Jeff and Julia started out with a YouTube channel where essentially they bragged about how in love they were and how they were each other's twin flame.

And the idea of twin flames has been around for a long time. Essentially, it's that you and every other person on the planet has a twin flame, which means the perfect match for them, the person that like brings out the best in them. And they're like, it's even better than a soulmate. It's not a soulmate. It's like you burn at the same intensity. And when you combine, it's like you're just everything is like if the world, if everyone in the world could find their twin flame, there would be no war. There'd be no poverty.

There would be no sadness. Everyone would just be in ecstasy and everything would be perfect all the time. That's the idea behind twin flames. Well, it's insane. So we just have to find Vladdy Poots' Twin Flame and everything will be good. Poots, that Vladdy Poots. We just have to find the person that will call him Vladdy Poots during sex. Honestly, yeah.

Just, you know, send me to Russia. I'll be like, hey, Vladdy Poots, please stop. Vladdy Poots. Vladdy, honey. Oh, what a monster. Anyway. Truly. bloody honey um oh what a monster anyway uh truly they sort of started this youtube channel and people found it you know like you do on youtube and um and then it took off from there

and i think the thing that is so interesting about jeff and shalia is that as you listen to the podcast the the podcast has done some really great interviewing investigation and and other people have too there have been multiple articles written about jeff and julia and the twin flames universe as they call it um they really are something else these two because they they've created this whole world and it's not free you gotta buy your little packages and stuff for the low low price of x y and z so this is like did you watch um the lulu not lululemon um yes oh my god the legging yes yes this sounds a little bit like lula row it's a lot like an mlm yeah an mlm what's that it's a multi-level marketing platform oh yes yes yes you have to

like buy into it this is without like giving too much away because i don't want like people need to listen to the podcast yes they should because it's wild buy a package and then do they set you up with somebody or they teach you how to go out in the world and find someone sort of both but the thing that they they the the way that they really get you is that they tell you all this. They tell you, you've got a twin flame. And then they say,

Nicole, it's up to you to find it. It's very self-help. So they go, they're like, you have it inside you. All you have to do believe is, all you have to do is believe in yourself. You are blocking your twin flame

and we're going to help you unlock the blocks. We're going to help you. And so you got to buy this package and you got to do is believe in yourself. You are blocking your twin flame and we're going to help you unlock the blocks. We're going to help you. And so you got to buy this package and you got to get with this coach and you got to like, and then like, so you, you become like obsessed with it and wound up in it and you're like, okay, so I, I'm the, I'm the issue, right? Like it's all the, it's like all the good things like that you would find in therapy, but like twisted by these people that don't have any accreditation or like any they've not learned how to do it they're just doing it out of their

fucking garage basically you know it's like why are people listening to them right because they've created this world in which like you know it sounds like oh well if i just buy this package i'll find the person that i'm supposed to be with forever. And they're feeding off of like people that are lonely or people that really want to find love or people that have so much love to give and just don't know how to go about doing it. It is. And then they get you and they create this whole like community around you, they create this whole community around you, right? And so now all of your friends are people that are also in the Twin Flames universe. So you don't want to leave the Twin Flames universe, right?

But that's so wild. Girl, that's wild. Come hang out. We all believe in Twin Flames. But if I didn't find my twin flame within this community of twin flames then i'd be like well then they're not here but that maybe you just had a false twin flame nicole it was a false twin flame to get you to level up so that when your twin flame comes you're ready for them it was a Yeah, that's actually what they say to people. They say that they're false twin flames.

I'm like, bro, at this point, Jeff is actually saying that he's God. He's the second coming of God. That's what he's saying now. So like, and from point A, which is him and Shalia starting these videos, by the way, in the office of their, it wasn't even their like house that they were doing these videos out of. They were living rent free in like one of Jeff's buddy's houses because

they couldn't afford to like get their own place. Meanwhile, Jeff's like doing videos. He's like, look at everything around me. I'm so like successful. I did this myself. It's not his house. It was not his house. Oh, sorry. Oh, my God. Do you hear that? Hold on. I just press play on something and hold on. I can't hear it. Sorry.

Oh, my God. In my earbuds right now is we don't talk about Bruno. That's so funny. I'm not even kidding you. Hold on. This is insane. I don't know where it's coming from i feel like a crazy person brad brad that's so funny jesus christ i'm falling apart nicole no it's okay take your time okay it's gone away okay yeah can you hear me can hear you. I'm not even joking you. The song has been stuck in my head for three years and it just popped into my earbuds.

What a joke. This is not a plan, you guys. I'm so sorry. Well, I just listened to it. It's a good song. It's a pretty good song. Wait, so three years. You worked on it for three years?

Yeah. I booked it pre, no, right at the beginning of the pandemic. Oh, my God. So I guess two years. We've been in this pandemic for so fucking long. I forget. Yeah. All the time that it's 2022 and it started in 2020.

I know. God. Yeah, so two years. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. I always forget that animation, I mean, live action sometimes takes forever, but animation really does take a long, long time.

Animation does take a long time, but you're right, like live action does, and movies have been very strange for the last, like we did, we shot In the Heights in like 2019, I think, maybe. And it didn't come out until this past summer. Yeah, 2021. They held it for a long time. Yeah. Well, I think they thought theaters were going to come back

and then they were like, eh, not yet. We gotta let Anthony Ramos out of the box. I think he's so talented. He's extremely talented, yes. That movie is filled with talent across the board. Everyone in it is so wonderful and fun. And then like every scene you're in,

you look like you're having a blast. Everyone looks like they're having a blast. We had a great time. What is her name who originated Mimi and Rent? She was in it. Oh my God, Daphne Rubin Vega. My idol. She's incredible.

So when they did the Rent movie, Rosario Dawson, love her. But I was like, where's Daphne? Like, why wasn't Daphne Ruben Vega? I was so. I think Daphne was pregnant. I think that's what she said. She was pregnant at the time.

And so she couldn't do it. I think I think that's don't quote. Don't quote me. Wait. She is my Mimi. No, she is forever. I like I fell in love with that musical in high school when it came out, and I was just totally obsessed with it. I had the cover of Newsweek with her and Adam Pascal

on it on the back of my bedroom door. And so the first day of rehearsal when I got to meet her, I was like a fucking wreck. I was so nervous. I was sweating like profusely and she comes in and is so like nice and funny amazing you know and i'm just like like i was a disaster i would have lost my mind i so i came up during a musical theater kids were like ending their obsession with rent and starting their obsession with wicked oh yeah so like i still really loved rent and i still do i just went and saw the the national tour of rent oh my god in in new jersey i love it i love it a friend that i went to school with was a swing and was playing benny that night luckily i was like oh how funny that i'm coming the night that you're actually going to perform. But yeah, musical theater is like really wild.

Like being a swing, people don't realize it's like when you're a swing, you have to learn four different tracks, which is like four different parts, and then just be ready on the fly to do it. Ready. It's just it's an insane amount of work. It's an insane amount of work. Swings and understudies, especially for musical theater, but really like across the board, it's just an incredible, intense amount of work. It's an insane amount of work. Swings and understudies, especially for musical theater, but really like across the board, it's just an incredible, intense

amount of work. Like we had in that show that I was in, in the West End, we had, it was the four of us and then at the end, there's two police officers that come on. And the two police officers were the swings for everyone. So like each one of them, and we had four,

we had the police officers and then we also had two understudies and they would like cycle out because of them and we had four we had the police officers and then we also had two understudies and they would like cycle out because of covid and stuff but like each one of them knew two parts like two full parts which is like shit which is like it's so that's so crazy to me because like with stand-up if i don't do a joke for a while, I forget the joke. And then it's like if I didn't go over, like if I don't go over lines, like and then we go to lunch and then I don't go over the lines again when we go back. I don't know those lines. I know. So it's like for you to know two full parts to a full show is so crazy to me. It's bananas to me too.

It's bananas to me. I don't. I don't. But I think it's like those things like under a certain amount of pressure you will perform you will you will just do it and i think that that's what separates people that can do it from people that would like to do it or you know sometimes people that are super critical of it that have never tried it because i think some of that criticism comes from fear I think like fear of of what is it like to be up there and and and yeah I did I think I think a lot of critical

critical analysis comes from fear I think there's like really good critics and then there's also people that maybe maybe some of their critic criticism is coming from a place of like i don't know how to make that art and i don't don't know yeah i don't know where i'm going with that exactly but well i was once on stage and this lady was like i don't know if she was like saying her own punch lines she was just talking during the show and i was like okay you have so much to please come here get on stage she was like i couldn't and i was like come on come on come on come on so then she got on stage and then i handed her the mic and then i sat down in her seat and then she she was like i don't know what to do and i was like exactly but shut up that's so amazing

oh that's such a fantasy wow I can't believe you did that. I'm so jealous that you did that. I'm trying to remember what venue it was because I can remember the stage and I remember how it was seated because she was really close. She was close enough for me to just leave stage. Maybe it was Buffalo, New York.

I don't know. I've had a lot of shows where I'm like, oh boy, oh boy, you want to come up here? You know. I've had a lot of shows where I'm like, oh boy. Oh boy. You want to come up here? You can. I'm tired. Please do. Wow. That's such a fantasy. That's like amazing. God.

Because it's hard what we do. I mean, it's not brain surgery, but it is hard. It's hard to do. And so when people are critical of it, it's like extra tangy sometimes which just feels like really really i'm up here like cutting out my heart and soul i'm like uh-huh trying to give something while i'm on this planet and you're over there going like which is like bro that's what you're giving on this planet really okay i guess we ought to make choices yeah sometimes i read reviews which

i shouldn't and i'm like boy oh boy why are you so mean why why do you have to be so mean it's not even most of the time it's not even funny like if it's mean and funny then i'll be like yes okay it's like all right yeah that's fun i give it to you but sometimes it's just like mean for no reason i know i know have you ever seen the video it's a video called the bread and it is it's a video it's a five minute video about a woman who buys magical bread and dreams come true oh my god no this sounds amazing it's five or four black women and it's the most insane acting you'll ever see the premise is insane and i showed it to a friend and he was like you know what and we like laughed about it and he was like i gotta hand it to them they made a video they edited that video that's more than most people do and i was like you know what you're right i giggled at this for years because it came out like

2007 but he was i was like you're right they did it they did it fucking did it say what you will about it but like when people do shit it's like well what did you do right right like what did you do what did you make how did you put yourself out there i recommend watching it it's a really i it's one of my favorite videos i've ever seen in my whole life i will watch it oh my god oh that's high praise okay i'm gonna watch it i'm gonna watch it real quick we have to take another break here's a question for you do you believe twin flames exist do you believe in soulmates no no i don't i really don't i think i think at least for me the people that i have had the honor and pleasure of being with um in this lifetime have

all taught me something really big about myself and even if it ended in a fucking fiery disaster of flames right like it it taught me something and it moved me toward knowing myself better, whether that was them or me figuring something out when I was with them. But like, I don't think that there's like, oh, well, there's one person for everyone. I think there's lots of people. And like, and you just sort of just go like, yeah, you seem like, I think I'm better. I'm a better version of me when I'm around you. Like, I think that's what friends do, like really good friends, you know, like, it's a similar thing. Like when you're with really good friends, like they make I mean, like when I think about my friend Lauren Ash, and like, when I'm around Lauren, I'm like,

doubly as funny. You know, she just brings it out in me and like being around her loosens me up and allows me to be freer and like, you know, or like. That's what you want out of a partner. If you're going to choose a single partner, that's why some people choose multiple partners to have like some why some people are polyamorous and like. Yeah, I don't think I don't, I don't, I think it's I think it's such a crock of shit to be like, there's one I'm just trying to find my person like they say on The Bachelor, right? Like I love it when they say that too. Just like, oh

you idiot. It is also very funny to be like, I'm trying to find my person with ten other people. I know. And we're all gonna get drunk and fuck that one person. And then we're gonna argue a lot, a lot, a lot about nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. It's like this is what happens when you don't allow people access to books. Like they don't read, you know.

It's like they don't read. They don't read. And they definitely don't read while they're there, you know. It's like they're not allowed, which is yeah if i went on a like i mean if i went on a beach vacation with like six of my closest friends and we weren't allowed books or phones or internet like yeah we would fight a hundred percent because we like have to create drama and then just a ton of booze of course you're gonna go crazy yes can't wait to do that maybe i should do that for a retreat um i think that's such a poignant thing to be like there isn't just one person because i don't believe that there's just

one i think there's sometimes a person for like right now and then my therapist is like every relationship is technically a good relationship because you learned that's uh and i am very astute do you believe that to an extent um because like an abusive relationship no i don't learned that's uh and i am very astute do you believe that to an extent um because like an abusive relationship no i don't think that's good i don't think you needed to learn that's not a lesson you needed to learn when i could skip yeah yeah there's definitely yeah yeah it's like i didn't want to show up to school that day goodbye but yeah relationships are just so interesting because i think people have this old school thing where they're like you find your person you get married you stay in the relationship for 100

years and then you die or whatever and it's like yeah but if it's not good don't stay exactly exactly but like i think that there's also again again, fear. Most of the time, human beings are ruled by fear to some extent, right? And so I think, at least for me, in that long relationship, I was like, I can't leave. I gotta spend so much time here. Like, I remember literally thinking, oh my God, how am I gonna pack up my stuff? Like, I have all this stuff. We have an apartment together. Like, we have furniture that

we bought i just bought that big expensive rug how are we gonna break up which is like when you think about it that is such an insane that is such a a fearful place to be coming at from for your relationship like share a life with someone you're not gonna leave because you bought an expensive rug and you don't know what to do with it like come on you know but i think people get scared like what am i going to do when i've been in this for so long you know or i feel safe or like you know not to not to bring it down but like i think that's why a lot of a lot of women can't get out of abusive relationships because they've, their abusers are most of the time like very manipulative and have created it so that like they can't leave.

And that brings me back to twin flames because like, that's what Jeff and Shalia have done. They've isolated these people and created this like entire community for them. And like, you're in it for a while and you look around and you're like, oh no, all my friends are here. Like if I question the leaders, if I go against what they want me to do or say,

I'm gonna lose all my friends. Like how, I'll be so lonely. Well, maybe I'll just, you know, do what they tell me to. Yeah, and that is a scary thing as an adult to start over. So like, i do get it wait are they still doing this are they still girl yes really you can find them on the internet now yeah they're still doing it that's it's so insane to me when people they're trying to have

a baby oh i think they might be pregnant i'm not sure i don't know well god bless them god bless congratulations congrats but i just find it so interesting that like things like lula row can still exist even though a whole documentary was done on them like this you've done a whole podcast being like this is a scam or whatever and then like scientology that lady shelly has been missing and we're all just like okay still still a religion. I know. I know. It's so wild to me. Wild.

What people in this wild in this lifetime, what people get away with. It's wild. Like it's what, it's what it's absolutely bonkers bananas. I listened to this podcast called, um, true crime and cocktails, which is Lauren's podcast actually.

And, uh, and they were doing, they were doing the death of Whitney Houston. And during the podcast, they talked about this guy. And I cannot for the life of me remember his name. But he was a total scam artist. And the night that Whitney died, it was the night of somebody's big Grammy party. I can't remember who. davis he took whitney's

ticket to the party and was like there crying at the party about like how much he missed her and stuff like like what are you doing like wow like this guy was like a complete like scammy like part of his thing was like that he just made friends with celebrities and like lived off of their whatever like i guess how insane there's only one scam artist that i know of that i really want them to thrive there's this like 19 year old black guy who who keeps pretending to be a doctor oh my god catching him and i'm like i don't know maybe instead of like arresting him send him to medical school maybe he like arresting him, send him to medical school. Maybe he would be a good doctor. Send him to medical school. Yeah, obviously he's passionate.

You know, he just wants to be a doctor. Again and again, caught multiple times. I believe he's been caught twice. There's another lady who keeps stowing away in the cargo of airplanes. No, stop. Is this her weird kink? Like the vibrations in the cargo hold or something? I think she just likes to travel. No, stop. Is this her weird kink? Like the vibrations

in the cargo hold or something? I think she just likes to travel. Oh my God. But honestly, that would be so funny if she was in court and she was like,

I just don't like vibrators. I don't like traditional ones. I just want to sit in the cargo hold of a plane, bottomless, and have a nice time. I'm not hurting anyone.

I'm not hurting anyone. I'm not touching anyone's luggage. Maybe just a little. Just a little rub. I'm just time. I'm not hurting anyone. I'm not hurting anyone. I'm not touching anyone's luggage. Maybe just a little. Just a little rub. I'm just here. I'm just here. Vibrating with the plane. At what my twin flame is a twin,

twin engine. God. I can't imagine. Do you think you would like fall into a cult? Okay. So I don't think I would fall into a cult? Okay. So, I don't think I would fall into a cult. But I do think

there have definitely been times in my life where I've belonged to groups of people or like made a group of friends or something that

I realized that I was sort of being manipulated or something like that. You know, I think because I'm the kind of person that I am,

which is like I really try hard to look for the good in everyone and I try to look at everyone with an empathetic view. I mean, I wouldn't say like rose-colored glasses, but I think like empathy-colored, whatever color that is, you know, maybe a light chartreuse. I'm not sure. But like I try to look at people that way so when i make friends i try to think about like people in the best light and unfortunately i think

sometimes people aren't really that you know like you it's the same as dating right like you can look at someone and go like oh my god they're so amazing they have so much they have and only I can see how great they are. And like, I just want everyone to see it, which is like, well, if only you can see how great they are, they're probably not that great. You know, like they're probably kind of shitty and you're just sort of projecting your ideas of potential on them, which is like, and that can happen in friendships too. And I think I've definitely been part of a group, groups of friends that, you know, later I kind of see, look, step back and go like, oh, I'm being manipulated or, oh, I'm being, you know, I'm normalizing behavior that is not cool for one reason or another, you know, because I'm trying to keep the peace or because I'm lucky to belong to this group. So, you know, I've got to just keep my mouth shut when things are weird or fucked up. I mean, I remember having a group of girlfriends and some of the like sort of joking, quote unquote, was really callous and cool.

And sometimes it would be towards groups of people that were not in the room. And I remember hearing it once and being like, oh, maybe that was a mistake. And then when I heard it again, I said something. And it was like the group dynamic just started to shift right then because it was like, like oh they didn't like that i said something about it and as we've discussed already i'm not one to hold my tongue

when i feel there's a moment of grossness happening so yeah i feel like i could i could that's a long answer for like i don't think i'd ever be a member of a cult but i've certainly sort of stepped back and gone, Oh, why am I in this friend group? Like, what am I doing here? You know?

Yeah. I definitely think I could be, uh, taken, taken and brought to a cult. Somebody's just like, Hey, do you like pizza?

And I'm like, I do. And they're like, worship this pizza. And I'm like, Oh, well, as long as I get a slice.

Oh my God. Yeah. definitely could fall into a cult so like with scientology i was in times square and i think i might have told this story on the podcast but whatever this lady was like happy and she was like do you like happiness and i was like who me yes and i was with a friend and she was like follow me to the church of scientology my friend jen was like nicole no and i was like jen an adventure and she's smiling and we watched a video where i was like this all makes so much sense and then i bought a book and then i tried to read the set like the book but it was like really hard for me to understand it was written in the way that i was like i think i need need to take a class to decipher it. And I was like, that's how they get you. They teach you more. They teach you how to do it. But yeah. Oh, I'm so susceptible to being in a cult. I mean, I guess you're like me. I think we're susceptible to people being like, come join

the fun. It's like's like yeah an adventure absolutely i want to be involved in this get in this car with strangers yes we're going on your boat yes we're going to your private island yeah i used to hitchhike in new york i used to get in cars with random people all the time all the time it's a miracle i. I did it once, and I truly can't believe that I'm, like, I got in a car with, like, three strange dudes. I cannot believe I'm alive. Like, and they just dropped me off like normal. They just drove and dropped me off.

Isn't it wild that people, like, in the 70s used to just do that all the time? But then also, I guess there's a lot of unsolved murders from that time period. Serial killers. Yeah. That's the birth of serial killers, really. Yeah, so. Ugh. I don i don't like murder seems bad i would never it feels like it's not something i ever want to take part in for sure yeah like i don't even like cleaning messes let alone like getting someone's blood on me i'd be like oh my god like that scene in Pulp Fiction where it's like, oh, no, you have to bring the cleaner now. Like, yeah.

I would never. I don't think it's for normies. I think it's for psycho sociopaths. I think so. Can I ask you, what is one of the worst dates you've ever been on? Oh, my God. Let me think because I've had so many bad ones. Oh my God. Let me think because I've had so many bad ones. I think one of the worst was when I lived in New York, I went on this date with this guy who was in advertising and all he did the

entire date was talk about manipulating people into buying things. It really bizarre it was so weird and then and then i was like well he's kind of cute like maybe i'll make out with him a little bit so i made out with him a little bit and then i think it was really really late and i was like it's gonna cost me this is pre-uber so it was like it's gonna cost me an arm and a leg to get home in a taxi so maybe i'll just like ask him if i can crash at his place. And he was like, yes, I actually have. One of my friends is out of town and I'm house sitting for them. So we went to his house, the guy's apartment or whatever.

I think it was in Brooklyn somewhere. And it was like super creepy. Like the way those pictures of like Kanye and Kim's house are super creepy. Where it's like, there's nothing in the room. And then there's like one white leather poof for people to sit on or like a vase with like a feather. It was like that.

And I was like, Oh no, Oh no, I'm going to get murdered. That's how it felt. And, and then, so we get to his,

the not his place, his friend's place or whatever. And I'm like, okay, good night. And he continues to just like try and try and try to put the moves on me. And I was very much like going to sleep, not doing – like and then he got very – he got mad. Like he got actually mad that I was really just gonna crash, like I had said. So he like huffed and puffed and went to the bedroom.

I was on the couch. He went to the bedroom and like turned up the TV super loud. No, so what? He was watching like New York One. The volume's so loud, I'm wet and let's do it. Like what did he think was gonna fucking happen? Yeah, I think maybe that's what he thought was gonna happen. happen I don't know I think he was just such a petty little baby that he was like well if she wants to sleep I'm not gonna

let her sleep you know I'm just gonna listen to New York One super loud that was probably the worst although the entire time I was just like this is hilarious it's fucking hilarious this guy thinks that this is like what what what what what world like what

yeah are you ever gonna like why you know um i think that's probably the worst how about you the worst date i think i've ever been on well one man i think i told this story because it happened rather recently he asked me where i parked i said around the corner and i was like where did you park and then he pulled out a razor scooter and i was like oh okay all right so you scoot on over here and then you walk me to my car and then I got in my car and then I looked in the side view mirror and he was just like scooting away. And there's just something about an adult man razor scootering away from you. I'm a little scoot scoot. See you later, baby.

Scoot, scoot, scoot, scoot, scoot. Yeah, that's not. Not to shame, not to be like, I'm better than that. I was just like, I just don't see this for me. It doesn't scoot into my heart. No, he did not scoot into my heart. Oh, God. Well, Stephanie, we've reached the end.

Oh, no. This has been such a joyful experience. Wait, I have to tell you this um i think you were doing adr or something in the same place that i was and like your name was on a piece of paper you know like they saved the the parking lot for you so your name was on the piece of paper and my name was next to it and the sick and the other spot next to it and i was like oh nicole's gonna be here today maybe i'll just hang out in my car so i like hung out in my car for 40 minutes on the internet just waiting to see like maybe you were coming after me and you were gonna like i waited in my

like a loser because i just wanted to say hi to you but But now I got to do your podcast. So that's really nice. Stephanie, I'll tell you something. I don't read emails. I never know if there's parking for me. So I always just street park. So I probably came and you just didn't see me because I was like on the street being like, I can't believe I had to park so far away. If I just read the email.

Meanwhile, my stalker butt is like in the parking lot going like, any minute now, any minute now, she's going to drive up any minute now. Well, I fucking love that. Wait, okay. So where can people find Twin Flame? Oh, Twin Flames is available anywhere you listen to podcasts, but you can listen to it on the Wondery app ad-free, which is really nice.

And I think the next, all the episodes will be out by the time this airs. It's really good. It's a fun little, it's a fun little binge. Is there anything else you want to promote? You can follow me on all the socials. My name's

Stephanie Beatriz. You just Google it. And yeah, I feel like most people hopefully have seen the things that I've done. One of that is Encanto, which is available probably out of the mouth of any child you know. They could probably just recite the whole movie for you. That's going to be a better performance than anything i could give and then um i'm also on a show called brooklyn 99 that you can find on the internet yeah watch it on hulu give stephanie residuals yeah is that how it works i don't know yeah that works is it yeah yeah you get streaming residuals for every

watch i think so like i genuinely think so yeah i mean it's oh my god watch it on hulu then it's not a lot it's not a lot because our lovely union was like oh boy if we renegotiate how streaming residuals are done someone's gonna get mad at me and it's just like who who just give us money no one just give us the money for the job that we do. That would be good. That's what everyone deserves. It's fun. Well, if you enjoyed this episode of Why Won't You Date Me,

you can like it, you can rate it, you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts. If you write me something dirty, you can send it to whywontyoudatemepodcasts at gmail.com. And if you write something hitting on me, but it has to be very nasty, I'll read it this person said dear nicole i am gay but if i were straight i would take you to yogurt land flip you upside down on a handstand and fill your pussy with fro-yo captain crunch cheesecake bites and rainbow sprinkles then take you home and have you stand over me in the shower and push my slightly melted slightly melted fro-yo out of your pussy into my mouth

and lick you clean until you teehee to death and say that was truly amazing. Oh my god. They get sicker and sicker. That is a UTI slash yeast infection waiting to happen. Yes. But also how

romantic. How nice. I do love Froyo. Okay. Bye-bye. That's it for Why Won't You Date Me? With me, Nicole Byer. Why Won't You Date Me? is produced and engineered by,

oh, the sweetest woman I know, Marissa Melnick. It is executive produced by other wonderful people, Adam Sachs, Joanna Solotaroff, and Jeff Ross. Thanks for listening. I love you. Thank you so much. We'll be seeing you next Friday

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