Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Bizarre Relationships with Animals (w/ Rose McIver)

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

Actress Rose McIver (Ghosts, iZombie, voice of Headgum) joins Nicole to explain New Zealand, why she doesn’t post her loved ones on social media, and talk about all the cute, funny other ways people show love. They get into weird animal relationship stories, like the woman in love with a dolphin (who died of heartbreak), the man who tried to live among grizzlies, and Nicole’s dream of becoming queen of the whales. Plus: a simple dinner hosting hack from Meghan Markle.WATCH this episode here: https://youtu.be/gdfc4IbNLv8Support this podcast and get discounts by checking out our sponsors:» Equip: To learn more about Equip's virtual eating disorder treatment, visit Equip.Health/dateme» Cash App: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/3v6r90n6 #CashAppPod *Referral Reward Disclaimer: As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account.View all of our sponsors and discounts codes at wwydm.notion.site/sponsors.Follow:Tour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenYouTube: @WhyWontYouDateMePodcastTikTok: @whywontyoudatemepod Instagram: @nicolebyerX: @nicolebyerNicole's book, #VERYFAT #VERYBRAVE: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Why Won't You Date Me? via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I can talk you through it. No, leave all this in. Welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me? That's how I do the intro. A podcast where me and Nicole Byer was trying to figure out why I was still single, even though you could come in my hair and say it's dandruff. My guess today, that's the part I miss.

Unmissable too, I'm glad you were back. Thank you so much. My guest today is the voice of Hedgum, is also an actor that you know from iZombie, Masters of Sex, and CBS's hit series Ghosts, which has been renewed for two seasons, which is something that you love in this industry. I can't believe it.

It's Rose MacGyver! Hi! Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming in. How are you? I'm very good. Excited to be here. Excited to see you.

Okay. Riddle me this. How did you end up here? In this room. Now, how did you decide to move to the States from New Zealand? I feel like I didn't really make any decisions. I just kind of kept going with stuff. Something would happen and I would be like, oh well, I guess I'll follow that little

thread for a while. My dad's claim to fame, I'm just realizing, is that he's never made a decision in his life, which is sort of pros and cons. Yeah, that's men. Yeah, yeah. He's just like somebody told him to work at a camera shop and cons. Yeah, yeah, that's men. Yeah, yeah. He's just like somebody told him to work at a camera shop and he was like, okay, just followed along. And I do think I've got a bit of that.

Um, coming here, I mean, I came when I was 18, I guess, for like a junket, a seven minute rotated interview junket for a Disney Channel movie I did. And I had a bit of a nervous breakdown. And what was the movie? Oh, Johnny Capahala, Back on Board, the sequel. Wait, what is it called? Johnny Capahala, colon, Back on Board. I'm going to watch it.

Yeah, well, watch the first one first that I wasn't in called Johnny Tsunami. No, no. Oh, I do know Johnny Tsunami, but I have not seen it. I will only watch the sequel. Thank you. I have a thing where I only really watch sequels. Perfect. I'm your girl.

I think I've done a few of those. And so I came out then and then kind of went back and forth between New Zealand and would start university and get a job there and then leave and I just sort of hopped around a bit. And now suddenly it's 14 years later. I don't know. It just kept happening. There have been some bleak times where I've been know, it just kept happening. There have been some bleak times where I've been like,

I'm going home, that's it. And then, you know, I would book something at the 11th hour or I couldn't afford a plane ticket one time, I remember. One very sad, tiny Tim Christmas early on. And then just got really, really lucky because I know obviously this is a game of luck so much of the time. It really is a game of luck so much of the time.

So it really is a game of like being in the right place at the right time with like the right person in the room. Because like truly, there's been times where I'm like, I'm gonna get this. And then I say something weird to somebody and I'm like, I'm not gonna get this. I also feel like it's having it's like those moments that you have confidence that, you know, there are times I've gone in, I remember going in for a horror audition early on and I just had like tanked a bunch of other auditions. And when you go in for a horror audition with no confidence and you don't know the words properly and you're just like, oh, there are tapes out there. If they were

released, I'd be gone. There's a lot of bad tapes of me out there. I did this one audition where all I had to say was, help, help, he needs help. What was it for? Give us the full story. It is for a comedian who does not work anymore. It was Louie. Oh, okay. It was a Louie show.

And you had to just do help, help? Yeah, I was just a lady on the street. Okay. And the casting director laughed really hard and went, you're not gonna get this. You're kidding. I guess I wasn't convincing. She was like, you're very funny,

but you're not gonna get this. Okay, well I'm glad she prefaced that with the first line, cause that's horrible. Yeah, very, very, very mean. Yeah, that's very weird. Rose, are you single? Are you dating?

Are you married? Who's to say? Who's you dating? Are you married? Who's to say? Who's to say? I am married right now. Right now? Yep. And no, I'm married and I have been with my husband.

We've been together for about 10 years. Yeah. A little rocky first year, you know how it goes. And then, but I think we count it from that start of that year. Wait, can you tell me why it was rocky? You don't have to get into it if you don't want to. Well, we would just, I was living in Canada. Oh, and then he was here?

Yeah. Oh, okay, so it was like long distance and- All the above, yeah. And then were you working in Canada? I was, all the time. So it's like long hours. Long hours, long distance. Ooh, that sounds-

That's an album, isn't it? Long hours, long distance. Long hours, long distance. That's an album, isn't it? Long hours, long distance. Long hours, long distance. It's a country album. Look, it's a weird time in the industry. We're all looking beside ourselves. You know, it's tough. It feels wild. I know.

That's why I can't believe I'm on a show that is renewed for two more years. I know, which is really fucking cool. It's insane. Congratulations. Thank you, I'm very, very grateful. It's so funny years. I know, which is really fucking cool. It's insane. Congratulations. Thank you. I'm very, very grateful. It's so funny. I've watched episodes and I really like it.

Thanks. It's just a fun ensemble. It's a comfort show. You know, it's a good, easy, fun. You can watch it with your family. Yeah, I feel like I love the people I work with so much. I've got a, with this 10 of us that are regulars, which is a huge regular cast for a show.

And, you know, it's like a big crazy family and you know. And you shoot that in Canada, right? We do. We shoot in Montreal. Oui, oui. Oui, oui. Do you speak parlivou français? Très bien.

Ooh, bien. I speak, I speak a little bit. I understand quite a lot more because the crew all speak French. So I didn't want to be able to be gossiped about behind my back, which is a healthy motivator. And then, yeah, so I had done like bad high school French with a teacher in New Zealand who'd like never left New Zealand. And definitely had a strong New Zealand accent on my French. But it's getting, it's getting a little bit better. And my daughter is going to be, you know,

growing up there for the next first couple of years of her life. So I've really got to start speaking it because she's going to be... How old is your daughter? One. Do you like her? She's really cool. She's like really nice. I'm waiting for someone to go, no, I don't.

I'm sure there'll be a chapter. Yeah, it's like, depends what year you ask a person. Like, she's just in the sweet spot right now. I'll say 13 months is fun. So 13 months, she's not talking a ton yet, right? She's got a lot of dog. Dog. We've got dog, we've got baby. She can say baby.

And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's so funny, because I nannied three different kids. And... You just held up two fingers. You know, that's funny, because it was one kid and then two kids from one family. So you condensed them? Ha ha ha!

Yup. The ratio of the one. But they all know no. Because you say no so often to them. Oh yeah. And her name, I think I've said it publicly, so I don't care, is Chloe. So, rhymes with no. And I started calling her Noe half the time.

Because it's just... Noe! And in a really humiliating turn, my dog's name is Zoe as well. I like it. Everything rhymes in your house. Yeah. Yep. And then is your husband named Dewey? Just kidding.

Oh, is it Joey? That's a real name. I said Dewey. Is that on a short list for children? I'm just dumb as hell. When I was nannying, sometimes instead of no, I would go, is that a good idea? Because then that would make him stop and think. Empower them. Yeah, you're good.

Did you nanny for a long time? Yes. Ah, what ages did you start with? I started with one kid when he was two months old, and I had him until he was about two. And then a nice lady in the building took my job because she was cheaper than me. Um...

Oh! This is so heartbreaking. Did you like the kid? I loved him. He was so cute. I hate this. And it was fun to like watch him like learn what fun, like things were funny.

Yeah, yeah. Like he farted once drinking his milk and I laughed and then he laughed and I was like, you get it, that was funny. Yeah, that is just starting to happen for us, those things. Not specifically the milk fart, but I'm sure it'll come. Not specifically the milk fart was very funny to me. Wait, I'm so sad for you.

Did you ever see him again? Did I? Yes, because... You lived in the building too? I lived in the building too, and I fought with the lady who took my job. No, I can't remember. Oh, they moved away.

And then when they came to visit, I saw them again. And then I had moved on to another family of two little boys, and they were like two and maybe four. It was before preschool, but he was like going to go to preschool like within like a year or two. Yeah. Man, that must have been so sad. It's like when a lion is reunited with the man who tamed it,

you know, those stories you've seen. Did it feel like that? Did he run against the fence? No. You forgot yet? No, he was just like moderately excited to see me. I don't think he was gone long enough. Maybe now he would be really excited to see me. Yeah.

I'm not sick. I just smoke cigarettes. It's disgusting. It's fine. You are safe here. I refuse to quit. I'll be the last person in the United States who smokes cigarettes. Is this like your cause? Ha ha ha! My cause, my platform is keep cigarettes alive!

Ha ha ha! Small groups on those marches. It's the smallest group. Nobody smokes anymore. I feel so passe. Have you got one, a friend? Like one good mate you can kind of go and have a, we call them Daris in New Zealand. Daris? Daris, D-U-R-R-I-E-S. I've never heard that.

Have a Daris? No, I have like, no, actually I really don't have any friends that smoke. I've got a couple, so I'll put you in touch. Please, please do. I'll text and be like, meet me outside this bar. That's my new thing is matchmaking, cigarette smokers. Wait, how small is New Zealand?

I've never been, I want to go. It's got, when I left, it was like four and a bit million people, I think. It's like, it's a long, narrow country. There's a thing called Te Ara Roa Track that's like, you walk from the top to the bottom. I think that takes like, oh my God, I'm gonna be so wrong. I'm guessing a month, maybe a little bit longer.

So it's that far. Is that helpful? A month to walk across. I just learned that people hike for eight hours. That's in like a month. I just saw a family. The reason I was thinking of it, I saw a post the other for eight hours. I like that's like a month. I just saw a family. The reason I was thinking of it, I saw a post the other day where a family were like

with their two young children. We've just completed the Te Araroa track. And I was just thinking like how hard it is to get from my house to like the car with my daughter. And they just tent, they camp the whole way down. That's insane. So yeah. I don't like the outside like that.

Okay. I love being inside. Where did you grow up? New Jersey. New Jersey, okay. The great wilderness of New Jersey. The great? Well, it is called the garden state.

There you go. And I'm a farmer. So I take after my state a little bit. Ah, do you grow vegetables? Do you? I'm a farmer too. You are? Yeah.

What do you grow? Well, at the? I'm a farmer too. You are? Yeah. What do you grow? Well, at the moment, nothing. But I have, like during the pandemic, I really lost my mind. During the pandemic, I was a real farmer. And then I stopped farming because I had to have some like floor replaced where the plants were

because LA homes were not made for rain. Oh yeah. They're all made out of marshmallow. And I had so many leaks. There are no gutters. Yeah, guys, that's insane. Oh, yeah. They're all made out of marshmallow. Yeah. And I had so many leaks. There are no gutters. Yeah. Guys, that's insane.

No! It's wild. We remember when we moved into our house and we just like, they just stopped these gutters. And it's like, yeah, I know it doesn't rain a lot all the time here. But it does, right? But when it does, like, they have a really functional purpose. Mm-hmm. Guttars.

We've been, yeah, cutting corners on gutters in LA for too long. And that's my second platform. No, I'm jumping on it. It's my platform. I'm stealing it. I'm smoking in gutters. What was I saying? New Zealand's small.

So New Zealand is small. It is kind of two degrees of separation. It's like anyone out here. I met a girl the other day in a coffee shop and she and I were shocked that we hadn't crossed paths. She'd been living here for 10 years, but as soon as we start unpacking, we knew the same people. Is it like Iceland where they have an app

that helps you decipher if the person you're dating is your cousin? That is amazing, I did not know that. Yeah, it's so small. I think it should. It should have that app, I don't know that it does. People have dated and been like, oh no, we're related. I did not know that. Yeah, it's so small. I think it should. It should have that app. I don't know that it does. People have dated and been like, oh no, we're related. We were scared.

My husband and I are not related. I'll preface it with that. We know like quite a few generations back at least. Like mine go back to a different country, so we're fine. But when we met, we were shocked that like all of our family names are the same. Like all of the names. It's like, he's got a sister, Rose. I'm Rose. My brother's Paul George. He's George. My dad's John. His granddad's John. My grandma, my mom's Anne. His grandma's

Anne. Like it's, it's really weird. And all of the, like Robyn's. Robyn isn't that common. No Robyn. It's two Robyns. I don't know any Robyns. Well, you need to meet our families. Um, but yeah, we were sort of, we had a moment of like, oh, okay, I hope there's not too much over that. But he's from New Zealand too. He's Australian.

Oh, he's Australian. Mm-hmm. Oh, and then you met here? We did. And historically, like, if you're in New Zealand, there's a lot of tension between New Zealand and Australians, sport-wise mainly. It's like, there's, you know, there's sort of, it's a sibling dynamic. But as soon as you get to the States, you kind of sniff each other out a little bit. And then you're like, a, you know, it's a sibling dynamic. But as soon as you get to the States,

you kind of sniff each other out a little bit. And then you're like, a friend. You're from my side of the world. Somebody else who, you know, eats a Jaffel. Excuse me? Mm. Eats a Jaffel? A Jaffel.

What's a Jaffel? J-A-F-F-L-E is like a toasted sandwich. That it's in a press, and it cuts the nice little triangles. Do you hear the little jaffles? I've never heard of a jaffle in my whole life. Go to Little Ripper. Here's an endorsement. Little Ripper?

Little Ripper is a cafe. You're saying so many things I've never heard. I know. I'm starting to sound like the Faraway Tree that Dean and Blotten book. I like it. The Little Ripper is a coffee shop in Glaisal Park and they sell Australian and by proxy New Zealand, not goods and wares, just stuff. Just food.

Just mainly food and like, I think, you know, jars of Marmite, stuff like that, Vegemite. Oh, okay, I've heard of Vegemite. I didn't like it. I tried it. Ah. It was not for me. You started too late.

Maybe. Yeah, cause you like things as a kid and then it's like nostalgia for you. You're like, oh, this is good. Kind of like Burger King. Yeah. I ate that when I was a kid and I still eat it now and I still maintain it's good. It's not. My mom loves Burger King, but my mom calls it, because she changes, her pronunciation on anything is always, she's like, what does she sound like? I don't know. She sounds like she's reciting fables or something when she talks, but she says, Burger King.

It's like, if she refuses to, et cetera. Burger King? She's like, I got myself a Burger King on the way home. I like her. Um, yeah, she puts bizarre emphases. Does she live here too? No, I came out here. How long of a flight is it?

I'm really interested in New Zealand. In New Zealand? You gotta come, it's only, you can fly overnight direct. It's 12 hours-ish. It would take one. So it's closer than Australia, because that was 16 hours. Where in Australia did you fly in?

I went to Sydney. You were on a slow plane. Was I? Yeah, it's like 14. It took like 16 hours. I remember waking up and there were like eight hours left and I was like, how? I slept.

I slept for so long, but then they gave me ice cream. They knew how to win you back. When we flew from Canada last year, from Montreal, the first time in my life before we took off, the plane was like, and there's a strong headwind, so we're gonna have to stop in Toronto for gas. Has that even happened to you on a flight? No, usually they fill her up before I get on.

But you'd think, like- That's wild. That's also scary. Has that ever happened to you on a flight? No, usually they fill her up before I get on. But you'd think, like- That's wild. That's also scary. I know, I was like, well, I'm glad we're stopping at least. But also we had my dog on board who had a drug that was gonna sedate her for a very finite stretch of time. So became pretty, it felt like the amazing race

or something trying to get there before she woke up. That is wild though. We got to stop for gas? Stop for gas. I've just never heard a plane say that. Everybody kind of looked around bewildered and there was no further explanation. That is very funny. It's not a light plane. It was like a passenger plane. Maybe that's why I had to stop for gas because it was too heavy.

And then they're like, we won't make it across the ocean? But it's not even across the ocean. It's Montreal to here. It's like a six hour flight. For whatever reason, I thought you were going to New Zealand. I'm obsessed with New Zealand. No, you can't get past it. Do you wanna go, we can talk about it more.

I love it. I love New Zealand. Wait, did you, okay. So growing up, did you date a lot? I started, yeah. I was talking to my friend about this a couple of days ago because her son is 12 and just had his first girlfriend.

I was like, oh, what did that entail? And it was like, you know, her friend said, would you be this girl's boyfriend? And he said yes, and they didn't talk for three weeks. And then she said she doesn't wanna be your girlfriend anymore and they still hadn't talked to her. And he said said okay. I was like I do remember that well and I said I was quite happy to hear that he was having

that experience because I don't think kids are dating the same way or like they're not there, unfortunately I feel like getting a lot of their needs met online and they're not like trying to interact with people. So I was like look at least you like looked at each other. That's something physical, some connection. It's something in the physical realm at least. But I remember, yeah, my first boyfriend was a twin called Tim. They were Tim and Ash.

And I didn't know which one was which because I had just, you know, met them. And I was there. That's genuinely very funny to be like, I don't know which one's my boyfriend because I had just met them. And I was there. That's genuinely very funny to be like, I don't know which one's my boyfriend. This one you'll do today. And it's true, it didn't matter, because we again dated for like two, dated for two weeks.

I think said hello when the right one would look at me and like catch my eye and then I'd say hello back. And that was it for a couple of weeks. What if the wrong one looked at you? Would you be like, no, not you? I could have been complicit in like some giant family betrayal. Maybe they don't even talk anymore. I don't know. But that was my first sort of significant heartbreak, as you can imagine.

And then I had... Wait, Tim broke up with you? Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. That's okay. We again hadn't spoken, so... I get it. You know. But sometimes love speaks louder than words.

You know what? Sometimes it does. I didn't go through any of that. I didn't date in school. I didn't date until I was a full grown adult. Did you have crushes? Oh, I had so many crushes. Did you tell anyone? No, not really. Did you tell your friends that you had a crush on that other person? Of course. I love to gossip. I love to talk. I would tell all of my friends that I had a crush on that other person. Of course. I love to gossip. I love to talk.

I would tell all of my friends that I had a crush on somebody. But I would never tell my crush because I was like, what if they're like, oh man, that's so sweet. I don't feel the same way. And then like my soul would be a little crushed. And I'd be like, no. My friend's daughter is, I think she's 16. She had a boyfriend and I was like, oh! Yeah. My friend's daughter is, I think she's 16. She had a boyfriend.

And I was like, oh, do you like him? She was like, I guess. He doesn't put in enough effort. I was like, what? 16? Yep. And then they broke up. And then her new boyfriend got her just like this huge bouquet of roses for Valentine's

Day. And I was like... He's got the memo. That's wild that you're 16 and you understand what you deserve. I'm almost 97 years old and I barely understand what I deserve. But I hear you are in a relationship. I am. A deserving relationship.

He is one of the sweetest. And it is funny because sometimes he'll say something nice, like he's like, oh, I'll do this for you. And I'll be like, I will try to do it back to you. And he's like, you don't have to. If I'm offering you something, it's just me offering it. And I'm like, oh. You've been so conditioned. Man, that's rough.

Does he buy you flowers? Has he? Yes. He bought me flowers for Valentine's Day and my birthday. Cute. Because I feel like flowers are a thing that... My husband buys me flowers and it's so lovely. My mum and dad are still together.

I love my family so much. My dad is the kindest person on the planet, truly. But he's not a flower buyer. Like, he just doesn't... He shows his love every single other way. But it was interesting, like, when I got really together with my husband, I was like, what is this thing that happens all the time? My dad will, like, sit in a car outside a doctor's appointment

waiting for my mom for two hours. Like he'll do it. Oh, that's so nice. But I did start to think like, dad, you need to be doing this stuff that people do. And he was so cute. He used to like, you know, take mom out or do nice things, but on her birthday, he never wrote cards.

He just wasn't a card person. And so one year, just a few years ago, I was like, Dad, that's it. Okay, you're getting mum a card. And he was like, okay, got it. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. And I took him to, we were in Romania, of course, and I took him to a mall and dropped him off at the mall. Like I was the dad being like, go get a card and bring it back. And he was like, okay, okay. And he went and got the card. And anyway, the next morning when my mom opened it, it was this beautiful like paper ornamental kind of one of those cutout cards. And he'd left it blank. And I was like, that is simply so funny.

I said, Dad, what are you, what are you thinking? What are you doing? He's like, I wanted her to be able to use it. Isn't that just the sweetest like, missed mark ever? And mom was like, she knows dad, she's fine. You know, I like it actually. I'll make something. Love that. So well suited. You know, like the old school thing from the nineties where it's like women are from Venus and men are from Mars. That is like a perfect example of like, what, how are men socialized? And he's not the only

man to do that. No, and truly, he's like so... He's shown up, he's the best dad and husband, but just doesn't understand the, yeah, the sort of tokens of endearment thing. That is so funny. I don't think my dad ever got my mom flowers or a card. I do believe my mother would buy her own flowers and cards and go, look what you got me.

And he'd be like, wow, look at me. Oh, I'm so thoughtful. Well, I like it. Your mom knew how to just solve her own problems. She was like, all right, I'm not going to sit around waiting. Yeah. And then she would buy things. And then I would listen to conversations or my dad would be like, why did you buy that? And she would be like, I wanted it.

Yeah. And you'd be like, well, all right, it's here. I'm like, okay. Did you learn a lot? Do you feel like you took that on? I learned to not do that. Yeah, right. To like-

Could have gone either way. Yeah, to just like have a conversation. My parents had conversations after the fact of things, which I think is wild. So like, I try to have conversations before I try to do something. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, my parents are big talkers, like, share it. Or especially my mom. My mom and I both are like, we over talk, probably. We've had to reign it in a little bit. Like, turns out you can go too far, that direction too. Do you remember any times with your husband where you're like, I've talked to you too much about this. Too much.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I would just, like, he doesn't need to know. He would, I remember at one point he was like, can you stop telling me about like X's or stuff that you overshare? He's like, you're good. We're fine. I'm a grown man, but like, I don't want to hear this all the time.

Like occasionally it's okay. But I was like, Oh, I thought I was obliged to, like I thought I was trying to be honest. He's like, no, you're good. I also had that conversation with him where he was like, I don't need to know anymore. And I'm like, but you don't want to know everything about me? Yeah.

I dated this one guy a couple years ago, and I would overshare all the time. And I would go, but you want to know everything about me, right? Because we're dating. And he was like, I never said that. And in hindsight, not the nicest way to say, I don't need to know everything, like, in your thoughts. Yeah. But, you know, sometimes you got to stay with somebody. And in hindsight, not the nicest way to say, I don't need to know everything, like, in your thoughts.

Yeah. But, you know, sometimes you gotta stay with somebody not good for you to learn. You do, you do. I was just thinking it's, I thought of it like, it's almost like a compulsion, like an OCD kind of compulsion of truth telling. And I remember working with my therapist,

who's brilliant, early on, him being like, I'm gonna ask you to not tell me something this week that you think's important to like, something that you think is really a big deal and significant in your life. Your challenge this week is to not tell me that and to like hold space for knowing that thing yourself and not feeling like you have to unburden yourself.

Interesting. It's like, it was so good. It's been like learning containers, like learning about like, you know, when to take them out, when to take things out, when not to. And you just do it. I felt like, oh, of course, I've got a secret. I've got a secret from my teacher. And he's like, no, you're good. You're fine. We're two adults. You don't tell me everything. Yeah.

That's very funny. With this podcast, I kind of had to learn what I wanted to share and what like... Did you learn it the hard way? Not the hard way. But with this relationship, I was like, he's not a public person. He's not in entertainment. So I just tried to like be very conscientious of like what to share about him because he didn't ask for any of this. And we did have a conversation.

He's like a child. Like, I don't want to put this child all over Instagram. Yeah, no. It's like a child. I don't want to put this child all over Instagram. Yeah, no. It's like this kid didn't ask for it. And I mean, no shade to influencers who do put their kids out there, but I'm like, you're monetizing your kid. And then as I watch your content,

I then wonder if you have any sort of trust fund set up for that child to then have their share of the income that they have helped generate it. That's interesting. And I doubt it. But then I have this thing because I don't share my daughter publicly at all. And I'm like, I hope she knows this is on record right now, Chloe. Like, it's because I love her so much and I don't want to. Because sometimes I think, like, what if she gets, and she will probably, to

teenage dim and be like, wait, you always had a public platform. Why did you never talk about me? Like, did I not matter to you? Oh, I doubt that will ever be a conversation. I don't know. I mean, it's pretty amazing the spirals your brain will go on of like- But I think you can always go,

cause I wanted it to be your choice. That's what I'm saying on record. It's your choice. There's nothing else I would rather be talking about, but I'm not going to for you. I'll play that to her one day. That's like, I don't really post pictures of my house on social media or like Instagram or anything

because I'm like, well, it's mine. And it's like my little cave where I recharge and shit. And like something has to be private. Yeah, and especially, yeah, if you're just constantly being reflected in the media all the time, it's like just some little place you can go away and it just be yours, I like that. Like the Kardashians, I'm sure they have other homes they live in and they don't live in the media all the time. It's like just some little place you can go away. And it just be yours. I like that. Like the Kardashians, I'm sure they have other homes they live in

and they don't live in the house that they film in, but that feels so, to me, very vulnerable to like put your shit out there like that. Although I will say, controversial. I'm going to talk about Meghan Markle's show. The one thing is that it's so hard that it's a hosting show. Do you know anything about it? I haven't watched it.

Okay, it's like a... just was curious, put it on, and the whole premise is like hosting people at your house and like how to do it. And understandably, it's not at her house because she doesn't want that. But you're also like, you're not in your own... But you're not in your own space. You're not hosting.

You're not hosting. You don't even know where the forks are. Yeah, exactly. You had a ass. Exactly, exactly. And there's like not a thing out of place. And I don't kind of, it lost me on that. I do know that a woman sued her

because she made a salt bath with like actual salt and like maybe Epsom salt and something else. But the lady, she had a medical issue and then it like burned her. So then she like sued. And then Meghan Markle's team was like, well, you should have known. You should have known.

Something like that. I don't know. That's the only thing I know about Meghan Markle's show. There's also, I know that she shook out a bag. And it's my kind of hosting, to be honest. I'm like, she does what I look up to where she shook out a bag of pretzels into like a little container or something and like put them out and was like,

make things look a little bit nicer by not serving them in the bag or whatever. And I was like, that's low-fi hosting. And that's my speed. That is honestly very funny that she is getting paid to say out loud, take it out of the bag. Yeah. Like that's wild.

Yeah. That is so, that's like the first thing you do. Yeah, I mean, I think so. And also like, I guess I was expecting she was gonna make a pretzel by hand or something. But it's nice because it made it a very attainable lifestyle. That is so funny to me. Wait, real quick. We got to take a break.

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I know, I know. My brain was like, oh, that was so processing the break really. Oh, in editing it'll be longer. I know, I know. My brain was like, oh that was so impressive the way she just knew the order. Feel free to jump out. My husband and I do like hosting. I feel like I could probably do longer stretches of it. I get fueled by the energy of having people around and then I get like excited and want, you know, if someone can stay for four hours. And then he sort of goes into,

he's so much better at just knowing his needs and taking care of them. He'll like just step into the bedroom and like look at basketball on his phone or something. And I'll just keep talking and like, you know, going, going, going until I completely burn myself out. And so I'm still kind of trying to figure out how to be socially, like, temper my social energy.

Do you know what I mean? Do you have that? Yeah, it's very hard, because I tuck her myself out too. Yeah. I'll be like, stay for as long as you want. Yeah. Please, my casa es tu casa. Do whatever you want. Exactly. Do you want to sleep in my bed?

Exactly. Like, for whatever reason, I become like this crazy person. So I don't have people over often. whatever reason, I become like this crazy person. So I don't have people over often because I turned into this crazy person. But I do remember, I used to have people around a lot. I loved hosting, especially like early twenties, me and my friend Fleur, we lived in West Hollywood together when we first.

Fleur? Fleur, Fleur and Rose. We called ourselves a bouquet of good times. Oh, so humiliated. Rose, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. So sad. A bouquet of good times. And we would do these. Rose, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. So sad. A bouquet of good times. And we would do these-

And when did you say that to people? Like, were you at bars saying that? No, it was these big house parties we were hosting and we would like cordially greet people on the door with it. It was- I'm obsessed. That's so funny. Pretty weird, but we had an amazing time.

Yeah, we used to have lots of people around, but I remember the first time when I was about 19, 18, 18, I'd moved into a flat and I invited friends for dinner. Because I was like, that's what adults do. We don't just like drink in the garage anymore. Like I'm going to invite friends for dinner. And genuinely five friends showed up at my house and I hadn't thought about dinner. I had just been like that.

Every dinner I ate was like a can of tuna out of the fridge or some weird thing. So they were there and I suddenly like was tearing up this iceberg lettuce and trying to put tuna from the fridge, like scoop it into the lettuce leaves, like something I might have seen the friend's house once. It was just so sad and everybody was like, why did we just drink in the garage? Why did we come here for dinner? We could truly just drink. Yeah.

It's the same thing. Except you're trying to feed us tuna on lettuce. Yeah, like you invite people to dinner if you're gonna prepare the dinner. See, I don't do that. If I invite people over for dinner, I go, do you wanna come over for dinner and what will you bring?

Ah, that's a good one. I will have mixers and liquor and some wine and champagne. I'll have everything you want to drink. I can make you a Cosmo. I can make you... Make yourself at home with the cutting board and the pans and pots. But please, and I do. I have La Cruce, pans and shit. I simply don't know how to cook.

You just don't? I don't know how to cook. Have you tried? Oh, so many times. Did you like do a cooking class or anything? No, I would like look at stuff online and I used to make a thing called slop. Was that slaw or slop? Slop. S-L-O-P. Slop.

Okay, okay, slop. What have we gotten slop? With my old roommate, it would be ground turkey, tomato sauce, and then instead of like over noodles, it would be over zucchini and the water from the zucchini would make it so much like more watery that I would just like, oh, and then you put ricotta on top and... And when you mix it all together, it looks so nasty, but it's pretty good if I season it good. Even the watery kind of-ness of it all? Yeah.

Works? Yeah. It just doesn't look appetizing. Yeah. But then sometimes I wouldn't season it well. I'll never make you the same thing twice. Like I can say, I'll never make it for you. I was like, okay.

No, no, I'll make it for you. If you want it, I'll make it. Rose, can I ask, when you were proposed to, did you know you were getting proposed to? I had, I wonder if I should say this. I had, sure. I had suspected it was coming. We weren't really planning on getting married in any great rush. And then visas and my husband's got a green card and became a citizen. And it kind of became like we'd talked about at some point, maybe that would be a really logical

thing to do. And then the more we'd been together, we were like, actually, that might be nice. Anyway, I definitely hadn't seen it coming in like the months leading up to it at all. But the day before, my parents and his parents were all in town. We'd like hosted both our families together because they all get along and was so nice. And I just had this like really strong feeling it was going to suddenly happen that day. And I just kind of panicked and was like excited, but like just a little overwhelmed in advance. Anyway, then it didn't.

And so I was like, then I was pissed off, even though I had chosen this date out of nowhere that it was suddenly going to happen on. And the next morning we were walking up Griffith Park together, which we do quite often, like just a hike. And I was like, you know, I had the weirdest feeling last night that you were going to propose and then you didn't. And I don't know why I thought that,

but I just felt like I should tell you. And it's why I seemed a little pissed off or strange. Cause you got to tell the truth. And then he pulled the ring out of his pocket and he was like, that was what we were doing this morning. So I completely jumped the gun. Like just, it's so me to like anticipate. And he laughed, he was like, thank God I've been dying for an on-ramp.

I just kind of didn't. And then it was actually really sweet and perfect. And we were kind of like, you know, we were very in sync about it all. But I just couldn't believe it. I was like, oh my God, here I am just jumping the moment. I like that though. That's very sweet. And it sounds like it's like very you.

So it's like a very you proposal. The only reason I ask is because I keep seeing memes about like girls showing off their rings and their nails are all fucked up. Oh yeah, so true. And my nails are 99% of the time fucked up. You are ready. You are, are you anticipating something?

No. I'm not with my Lisa Frank nails. That's incredible. I think your boyfriend should probably propose to you right now just based on the nails. No, I don't want to get married yet. Oh, sorry. I think your boyfriend should probably propose to you right now just based on the nails. No, I don't want to get married yet. Oh, sorry. I'm too young. I'm 67 years old.

The other good thing about our engagement was my husband had turned out asked George, his name's George. I don't have to keep speaking about him. George, my husband, my betrothed, had asked my dad the week prior, which is so not either of their speed, but I think he just kind of, turns out my dad was sleeping in a room where he'd hidden the ring and he had to go in to get it because we were travelling on a plane. And so he kind of just didn't really have another way of making it like saying, can I come into the room you're sleeping in while he's napping? I'm doing some business.

So I guess he'd asked him and it was so sweet. And then apparently my dad was leaving like two days before he proposed. And so he said, like apparently my dad that morning went over and was like, well, he's South African. He was like, well, George, about that conversation we had, is anything happening?

And George was like, yeah, it's happening today. It's cute. But I just love the idea of my dad who wouldn't say boo to a goose. He's like so shy and just gentle and no pressure ever. It's like, what about that conversation we had? Like, looked all excited and hopeful because we didn't want to miss it.

Your dad sounds adorable. He's really cute. Wait, he's from South Africa? Where in South Africa? Well, he's from Pretoria. And then my mom is from Zimbabwe, from Harare. And they met in Cape Town. But my dad's claim to fame is his high school

is where Oscar Pistorius and Elon Musk both went. So two for two. We love Elliot Musk. That's fun. The reason I ask is because I've been to Johannesburg. Oh yeah. And I've been to Zimbabwe slash Zambia. I went to Victoria Falls. Yeah. Have you ever been there?

No. My God, it is beautiful. Wow. So stunning. And you can sit in Victoria Falls. You are outdoorsy. You said you weren't. I like the water. Okay. I'm a water baby.

Okay, that's outdoor, just for the record, mainly. You're right. Maybe I am an outdoors girl. Only if there's water. Okay. But you have to like swim against the current like three times. It's pretty hard. They ask you beforehand if you can swim, but nobody warns you how hard it is to swim against the current of the largest, one of the largest waterfalls.

And then you sit in a pool at the edge of the waterfall and then they take pictures of you. And I went with my best friend, Sachir. All of the pictures of her. I love Sachir. Isn't she the best? The best. She's grimacing in all of the pictures and very scared. She a good swimmer?

Like, because I couldn't do that just for the record. I can't, I'm like a dog paddler. On the way back they announced that she was the worst swimmer and they made her go first. Oh no. And we had to watch her struggle. And you all had to like push her from behind? I mean, kind of. And I said, at least you won something.

And she didn't like that. That's so good. Oh no. Okay, so she and I would be, yeah. And then they kept, they asked her, they were like, why aren't you more fit? Because she looks fit. Yeah. Is she athletic in general? You know. I think if you ask her, she would say yes.

Okay. But I think if... She wasn't like juggling sort of a competitive athletic career and comedy. I think she can do... I think she can be athletic if she wanted to be. But she was on vacation and she was like, I don't want to be. Yeah, yeah, I respect that. For me, I was like, oh, I'll swim anywhere.

I'll literally swim anywhere. I love swimming. I love being in the water and I'm a terrible swimmer, which is such a bad combo. Especially in New Zealand, your favorite place in the world. The beaches are like really wild. I grew up on the beach and it's like huge currents and big, you know, black sand and huge waves and... Black sand? Yeah, yeah.

I gotta get there. It's really, it's so beautiful. Yeah, you'd love it, but if you're a good swimmer, you're a lot safer because it's like very hazardous. And yeah, I just, I took my life in my hands every time I got in the ocean. I'm Delulu. I truly feel like, I took my life in my hands every time I got in the ocean. I'm Delulu.

I truly feel like, and I've said this before on this podcast, if I got taken away with the current, like the whales would take me and I'd become their queen. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! You are Delulu. Oh! I truly believe if I got swept away, the animals would keep me alive and love me. And it would be like Avatar, Way of the Water. Oh my God. You know how like a chunk of the movie's not even a movie,

it's just some swimming around with whales. Is this like from a children's book or something? Nope. This is just me being delusional. My mom and dad had a landslide a couple of years ago, the side of their property, it's all like volcanic soil, and they were lucky, their house was still standing, it's all like volcanic soil and it's, they're lucky. Their house was still standing,

but it like caved in up to their back door. It was ridiculous. It was so intense. But it's totally, the house is not safe. And they'll, I'm sure, come across this clip at some point and argue with me, but it was like- They still live in it? They still live in it.

And it got, you know, two years later, the slide started to be repaired by the, you know, two years later, the slide started to be repaired by the, you know, the guys at the council or whatever, is it 2000 people and so many people had real tragedies that were being dealt with. But in the interim, I was like, well, you know, where are we going to be? And they, my mom was like, if I go down with it, then so be it. I'm like, what? Their house will never float away. I promise you. When you think like that, good things happen.

Manifesting. Yeah. The house will be fine. They'll be fine in it. It's like precarious. It looks like Ron Weasley's house on the edge of a cliff. It's like held together with magic. It's so dodgy. And it'll stay up forever. Like it will when people think like that. It's like those like 105 year olds who smoke and drink their whole life. And then they're like, it's fine. I knew I was going to be fine.

Yup. That's going to be it. You just got to believe. I hope I don't live forever. This world, I got to say, you heard it here first. It's going south. It's the news. Is this why you're trying to...

Pretty my ass. Oh, man. Yeah, this is the calling to be sucked out into the ocean thing again. Truly suck me out. I truly think I could, could like live in a whale. They're big. Now you're just thinking of Jonah. Like we're definitely just in the Bible at this point.

Maybe. But I don't think a shark would eat me. I really don't. I think the jellyfish would like wrap me up. Have you seen Grizzly Man? No. He's the man who believed that like he was destined to like commune with bears and live with grizzly bears and that he understood them better.

They ate him right up, didn't they? He didn't believe enough. He showed he was scared at some point. He was so gaslighting. He didn't believe enough. He needed to leave just a little bit harder and the bears would have listened. Oh my god. Yeah, well, he, um... It's a very sad documentary if you're after a bit of a depressing watch.

Highly recommend. There was also a lady who made friends with dolphins. And she would, like... Friends with dolphins? She would, like, jerk them off. Okay, there's a guy who has a book called Wet Goddess. Eww. He was in a relationship with a dolphin.

My dear friend David Ferrier, who's got a great podcast. He was an oddball journalist. You'll love me describing him as that, but he would do these bizarre stories. And one was like in maybe 2005 or something, he interviewed this guy who wrote a book called Wet Goddess about his relationship with a dolphin that began in college. She's initiated. She like started the relationship. The dolphin did? Yep.

And when he had to leave, when he was like leaving college or whatever, and he was going to be leaving the town, she was so depressed, she committed suicide. Oh! I know. This is why I believe that if I got swept away, the animals would take me.

They wouldn't know. They'd be like, she belongs with us. They'd try to initiate something. Watch out. I don't think I could date a dolphin. I think they're too smooth. You'd draw the line there? A little. I'll just be friends. I'll be their queen. I just was like, I couldn't believe, that's some nerve to say, the dolphin came onto me. I mean, it's a good justification as to why you started it. You can't be like, well, I initiated it.

What's a dolphin? What? How does a dolphin even initiate? No. But did you know they can, this is so bleak, commit suicide? Dolphins? I didn't know they could commit suicide, but I guess they blocked their blowhole. Oh my God.

I know. I'm sorry. This isn't like light comedy. It's just kind of shocking. But, yeah, but I think they're one of the only animals that can. I could be, I can't wait for someone to destroy me. I may be telling so many lies. Oh my God.

That's so sad. Yeah. Cause I think of Lisa Frank dolphins when I think of dolphins and like those happy go lucky dolphins killing themselves really, really makes me sad. I think the Lisa Frank dolphins have some good mental health support. I hope so. They're surrounded by color. Yeah, yeah. [♪ Music playing.

[♪ Music playing. Rose, I have a question. Do you have any dating advice for people who are single? Um, what do I have? I have my mum. My mum, who I told you speaks like she's talking in fables and sort of riddles and stuff quite a lot of the time. I remember when I moved over to the States and I had had the same boyfriend from 15 to 22. I had a high school boyfriend.

We were like, he's an amazing person, very much. When we broke up and I was coming over here and she knew I was like, I was free in the world, she said to me as I got on the plane, as I got to the airport, she said, just promise me that you'll watch out for the two-legged wolves. And I remember just feeling like, just creepy men, like creepy men is all she needed to say, but watch out for the two-legged wolves. Weirdly, that does pop into my head like as kind of sound advice. I think so.

Like that, you know, people's intentions, like a wolf in sheep's clothing kind of idea, I guess. But, um, yeah, that people can present very well initially, and you just don't know somebody out the gate. Like just give yourself a moment to, um, actually get to know them before you go in too deep. I think that's good advice, because I think the statistic is you don't actually know someone for like...

I think the longest someone can pretend is like three months. So like after three months, their true self comes out. And then I think they say you don't actually know someone for like two years or something like that. I remember hearing that like when you've been together through every season, more than like once you're going into, you've done winter and then the following winter, it's like you see whether they still kind of interact with you in the same way they did last Christmas or whether it's like gotten better, gotten worse.

It's kind of gives you those moments of like time markers to reflect on when you look at a season. How many, what seasons are we coming to with you and your boyfriend? This is second summer. Second summer. Or second spring. We're in spring right now. Yeah. Yeah. But first spring is when we first met.

Mm-hmm. And so you're having a second spring. Yeah, you're getting, this is where it changes, I reckon. You start like, I mean, who knows? It's different for everyone. I have no idea what people are. He's still pretty nice and that's been really nice. That's good. We have a nice time.

Yeah, that's it. I reckon people don't feel the need to present a certain way anymore by that point. Yes. And that's telling. I mean, I didn't present any sort of way when we first met. I very much was just like, this is it! This is what you get! Yeah. And he liked it. So that's nice. That's good advice. Yeah. Just present and be like, this is who I am.

I just did a standup show in Seattle and I don't talk about my boyfriend in my standup because I'm happy. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And I don't have any jokes about it yet. So I talk about being single and I try to keep it in the past tense, but sometimes I fuck up because I have a truth thing.

When I'm on stage, I feel like I have to tell you the truth. tense, but sometimes I fuck up because I have a truth thing when I'm on stage, like I feel like I have to tell you the truth. This man after the show was like, hey, you'll find somebody, okay? You just have to like be true to you and keep being you and don't dim your light for anybody. And I was like, oh, oh. And I was like, oh, I can't,

I can't tell them I'm dating somebody. They're having a moment. Yeah. So I let them have a moment for a very long time. And I just said, oh, thank you so much. That's, he's this good. I think that's all you needed to say. That thank you so much.

He didn't need that. That would be a truth compulsion that you just need to be like, what is the end goal there? Yes. He's not, if he gave you his number, then you can go, oh, whoa. Actually, no, sorry. Yeah. Um, yeah. I understand your truth thing a lot. Yeah. I also don't know why I'm like, thanks. Actually, no, sorry. Yeah. Yeah.

I understand your truth thing a lot. I also don't know why I'm like, I have to tell you the truth. I simply must. I know. I'm just, why? It's not, it doesn't help. No. Like, of course there are times, but you've got to be discerning.

But imagine if you told like your grandma every sexual exploit. Like, you don't need to tell everyone everything. No, you really don't. Turns out. Like, you don't need to tell everyone everything. No, you really don't. I got a DUI when I was 17 or 18. And we were going to Chicago to go visit my grandparents. And I was like, should I tell grandma? And my dad was like, are you proud of it? And I was like, no.

And he was like, then no. She doesn't need it. I was like, okay. She doesn't need it. I would be exactly the same. And I don't know why I needed to, I felt like I needed to tell her. Also, I wasn't driving. It was a wild story. Anyway, Rose, before we go, you do an impression of Betsy Sidaro.

I have done an impression of Betsy. May I hear it? Well, I'll tell you that I got to do an impression of Betsy Sidaro and the show Ghosts that we both work on. Yes. She is the best, funniest, greatest, you know. She's one of my favorite people. I can't speak more highly. She's so kind.

She's like so talented and like not self-serving at all. And like just I love Betsy. So I was both thrilled and very intimidated to have to do an impersonation of her. But she was really helpful and gave me like videos and did so much. And the big takeaway was, you know, you've got to have like a gateway word. Mine was, there's a character in the show called Stuart. And I say Stuart with like a, as if it's got a W in it, but it doesn't. And Betsy just like Stuart, Stuart.

And so Stuart, the number of times, if you see the outtakes, I'm like mad. I'm sitting in the corner like, Stuart, Stuart. Just that word. That's very good. But that's where I will draw the line. Okay. You got a word. I did get a word.

But I got a little thirsty for more words. I like to leave you wanting more. That's very good. I always thought I did a pretty decent impression of Betsy, but yours is much better. Give me Stuart. Stuart? That's really good too. It's kind did a pretty decent impression of Betsy, but yours is much better. Give me Stuart. Stuart? That's really good too.

Is kind of hitting with the going up. Stuart? Oh, that's good. Let's see. Your first one was- We gotta go to Taco Bell. That's really good. Oh.

It's a little too raspy. I'm very bad at impersonations in general. Like that, like I'm okay at just making things up and being like new characters like that, but full on just impersonating is not my strong suit. And I didn't know that, sorry to hog your time, but you've got to hear this. I was playing the Simpsons game with all my friends

when we worked in a factory at a high school on like school holidays, like making hampers. That is a mad lib. We were playing the Simpsons game while we worked in the factory. Okay. School holidays, my friends' dad made hampers. We were all working there assembling these hampers.

And they came up with this game called the Simpsons game where like it was doing it Simpsons impressions. I didn't know. They kept asking. I thought I was so good. They were asking me to do them all the time because mine were all the same. So it was like Marge was like, homie.

And then like Lisa was like, Bart. And they all were the same. That's really funny. So anyway, my actually, Stewart is not far off. Stewart, I think my Betsy is just a Simpsons character. No, you do a good Betsy. It's very good. Now I'm spiraling.

No, don't spiral. And on that note, thank you for having me. Thank you for doing this. Would you date me? I'd love to, be honored. What a dream! And if you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me, you could like it, you could rate it, you could subscribe, Thank you for doing this. Would you date me? I'd love to. We're honored. What a dream! And if you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me,

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just to get a taste of you. Oh, he would never allow it. Oh, that rocked my world. I read the first half, you know how sometimes you don't read the end of a sentence as you start? That's what happened here and that was wild. But you know what else? I think she knew, she knew that was gonna shock you as it came out, like it was. I as you start. Yeah. That's what happened here. And that was wild. But you know what else?

I think she knew, she knew that was gonna shock you as it came out. Like it was. I'm blown away. Wow. Glad he wouldn't. I don't think so. I got double check.

You should ask him. And confess to him that you've done that. Hey, would you let someone suck your dick so they can taste me? He'd be like, wow, everything's about you. Again, I don't need to hear everything all the time. Bye bye. I don't ask if she has anything to promote.

Oh, fuck. Rose, do you have anything you want to promote? I am just really, really grateful that I'm gamefully employed on Ghosts, a comedy on CBS. So that's kind of, that's my life at the moment is we've got another two seasons coming up and we have fun. It really is such a fun show. Like the casting director did a really great job of like putting people together who really bounce off one another. Thanks.

And you're great on it. Thanks. It's so fun. Other than that, just really working on some quilting. So I'll let you know when the online store opens. We'll see. It takes like 500 hours to do one. And I don't know if I could judge enough that it justifies

it. Yes you can. Probably not. No, just charge a ton of money. And if it doesn't sell, use it. Okay. Business advice. Business!

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