Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Hooking Up with Go-Go Dancers (w/ Adore Delano)

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

Drag queen, singer, and actress Adore Delano (RuPaul's Drag Race S6, All Stars 2, American Idol) joins Nicole to share stories about hooking up with go-go dancers, fi...lming a sex tape she regrets, and her path to sobriety. She opens up about transitioning twice, the facial feminization surgery she underwent, and her current relationship with a trans man Nicole and Adore swap dating lessons, talk about why a healthy relationship can feel so strange, and discuss why an amusement park date is the ultimate compatibility test.Watch this episode on our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@WhyWontYouDateMePodcastSupport for this episode comes from Bumble. Start your love story on Bumble - bumble.com #bumblepartnerFollow:Tour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenYouTube: @WhyWontYouDateMePodcastTikTok: @whywontyoudatemepod Instagram: @nicolebyerX: @nicolebyerNicole's book, #VERYFAT #VERYBRAVE: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Why Won't You Date Me? via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Want to watch this episode? Catch the full video on YouTube. Just hit the link in the episode description. This is a headgum podcast. Today's segment is brought to you by Bumble, the go-to dating app for finding love. If I scroll on your profile and it doesn't look silly, we're not going to match. If your opener doesn't make me laugh, I'm probably not replying. Banter is key.
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Starting point is 00:00:52 with a lot of Gogo guys. And, like, as a little gay boy, like, I was literally just like 23 after drag race, like, about to be 20. Oh, God. There was just one hookup in Toronto that was, like, wild. We filmed it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 And then I showed Courtney, Bianca, and Darien, like, in our group chat. And I remember Courtney's like, you need to delete that. They're going to get in on eye cloud. They're going to get it on eye cloud. Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Tell me why. Oh, baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me, a podcast for me. Nicole has been trying to figure out why I'm so single, even though you could come in a binder and tell me it's paper. My guest today is a drag legend, singer, songwriter, and actress who first blew up on American Idol before becoming one of the most iconic queens on RuPaul's Drag Race. And she's in the upcoming movie, Hag, on Tooby, and I'm so excited. here. It's Ador Delano. Wow. What an intro. Thank you. It's one of my favorite things to do.
Starting point is 00:02:08 The buildup. I love an intro. Nice little foreplay of the podcast. Just getting you a little comfortable before we fuck. We literally dive in. The door, truly, thank you so much for being here. I'm a very big fan of yours. Thank you. I think you're wonderful. You're stunning. Your run on drag race was so fun.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And here's a question. Are you dating? Are you single? Are you married? Do you care not to say? I'm in a relationship for like 10 months now. Okay. It's trippy because like he got me right when I was like, I just got my FFS surgery.
Starting point is 00:02:46 My facial feminization. If you're not in the know. Uh-huh. For you kids out there. Yeah. Like I was dating though quite frequently like when I was healing. Like I was like. let me just like emerge myself in this life.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Wait, when you were healing. So this means there's tape and stuff on you? No. I was still swollen a little bit. But like, yeah, I had my like rounds of like dating like deadbeat motherfuckers. Just like fuck, man. Like Hollywood is not the place to date. And then I'm like, I put this much money into my fucking chin and you're acting like a goddamn dog.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Like, nah. Like you can't even like pay for coffee. This is a mortgage, bitch. I can't even smile right now. Like, what the fuck? That's so funny. I put so much money in my chin and you can't buy me a coffee. That.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Did you want to me to, I don't drink? I'm like, I don't either. Buy me a fucking seltzer. Like, what the hell? Oh, my God. I fucking love that you were like, I don't know. I'm healing. Why not?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah. You can't hurt me. My face already hurts. Yeah. What the fuck. It hurts you more to look at me than you're going to do to me. Like, fuck it. No, but, yeah, I dated a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:00 different weirdos. Like, just, like, I did the online dating, the whole, like, app thing. And then, like, a good chunk of, like, four months when I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to be single and hot. I met my boyfriend. And it just, just from then on, like, 10 months ago, we just been together, like, almost every day. I like that. He's cool.
Starting point is 00:04:22 That's sweet. He's a cool little fucker. Yeah. Cool little fuck. I love him a lot. But, yeah. When you were on the apps, did you ever find people? people coming at you being like, I just want to talk about drag race.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. Yeah, I got some of those. And then I blocked them. I think I, like, subconsciously was trying to see, like, how I was going to be treated in society. If there was any difference, which there was, a lot of, like, straight men who were, like, kind of, like, it was just, it was really weird. Like, I didn't, like, a lot of motherfuckers that would beat me up in high school were, like,
Starting point is 00:04:56 trying to ask me out. And I'm like... Isn't that funny? It's really funny. funny. Hilarious, some would say. But yeah, it was really, really discouraging. So I was like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And then I met my boyfriend, who's also, he's a trans man. And we just kind of, like, had that in common and shared, like, certain, like, beliefs and just, like, morals that we kind of, like, in, like, life history that we kind of had. How did you meet? Well, he slid into my DMs on Instagram. Okay. I'm going to come on my thirst traps. And then I was like, I don't want to meet anybody like by myself anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:35 We're going to go out to like karaoke and watch a drag show with my friends. And if you want to come, like come meet us out. And then I met him. And then we went on a date like a couple days later. And it was like for nine hours just like talking. And I was like, wow, funny how people can talk. Yeah, when you like each other, funny how you can just talk. Uh-huh, about life and things.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And I was comparing that, like, subconsciously to, like, the other motherfuckers that were just, like, waiting for me to shut up while I was talking because they wanted that goal. They're like, so what's going on under those baggy pants? It was, like, very that. And you can feel that energy from that. And I was like, none of that was happening with my boyfriend. And I was like, okay, this is cool. We're talking about, like, life and, like, stuff that we like, as opposed to, like, hurry up, bitch, shut up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Do you got any roommates? Let's go to your place. Shut up. Shut up and fucking fuck me. That's, I really love that you took the time to be like, okay, this person and I, we like vibe. We can have a full conversation. We have the same life views and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I love that so much. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. He's a good guy. He's got good parents. It's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Cool sister too. And this might not be interesting to talk about it. You can tell me. No. So this is not your first time transition. No, when I was a teenager I came out when I was 15 and I was transitioning in school
Starting point is 00:07:05 like there was no like verbiage for it but my mom and I had to talk about it like what the plans were after I graduated and then it's trippy how this all worked out though because then I like threw away all my clothes tried out for American Idol and like did as much as I can
Starting point is 00:07:21 to kind of suppress it then drag came so I thought I can compartmentalize the femininity into a character and with a lot of money and extensive therapy, I realized that adores me and I am her and she's not going anywhere. And God damn it, we're going to make the best of it and look as hot as we can.
Starting point is 00:07:39 We're going to do it. But yeah, it was not my first time transitioning. This was just like the trigger that I finally pulled. I was like, it's not too late, whatever. No, it's never too late to live your authentic life. I also really love how supportive your mother was. Yeah. Like, let's have a game plan.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Let's talk about it. What are we going to do after graduation? Like, that is just, that's so fucking sweet and, like, really nice. Yeah, she's a golden one for sure, especially for the time. Like, this is, like, 2004, like, in an area and, like, with family members that aren't very understanding or, like, you know, I come from, like, a Chicano kind of kind of background, like, background, very, like, gangster vibes. They didn't know what the fuck that was. And my mom was very protective. And so were my brothers.
Starting point is 00:08:23 They're very, like, understanding to just kind of raise this to just be like, do what you want to do. But she's like, she even tells me, like, I knew since you're, like, one or two. Like, it was just like, you were a little girl. Like, you always were. Like, but, yeah, very grateful for that shit. This fucking warms my heart. Yeah. I genuinely love that.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Because I, I mean, I don't want kids, but I couldn't fathom looking at my kid and being mad at a choice that they're making that's not harming me or them. Yeah. Like, it's just so wild to me. Yeah, she's, like, always like, you're half of me. Like, what the fuck? Like, how am I going to, like, turn that down or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:00 But yeah, I don't think I want kids either. Side note. Yeah. Not my thing. Not for me. Yeah. I don't know if it's my thing. It's not my thing.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I love spending money on me and not having to worry about a little person who's like, I need things. I'm like, no, you don't. I'm going to buy a coach bag. Because I want you today. Exactly. I'm like, no, I'm not transitioning at 33 and be like, you know what? I want three kids.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Like, bitch, give me, like, three decades, fuck. Like, I'm good. Was the surgery? Was it painful? Yeah, it was painful. But, like, that's funny that I'm like, was it painful? It's like they cut your fucking face open. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Of course it was painful. It's trippy what they do, too. Because, like, when you, like, look it up, it's like, which I did. I was like, can I see video? Did you guys film it? Like, what's the vibe? They, like, I did, like, eight different surgeries on my face, but they were very, like, subtle. But, yeah, like, they, like, cut my head, like,
Starting point is 00:09:57 lifted it, took the strip of my head that they cut out and, like, implanted those hairs to lower my hairline. I got ribs taken out for my nose, like chin done. Like, they tightened my muscles in my neck to the necklift. Like, a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So I was, like, swollen, but, like, you can't really feel it. You're all drugged up when you make up. That's a lot. Yeah. My first thing that I said was like, are we going to start? My mom's like, bitch, you're cut up.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You're cut up. You done, girl. Well, you look fabulous. Thank you. Truly fabulous. Thanks. I feel good. How long was the recovery? I'm so interested in surgery.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah, me too. I've never had any, like, cosmetic surgery. I love surgery. The healing was, like, to go out and look decent, like, three months. That's when I started dating. It's a little swollen. But, yeah, I would say, like, maybe six, seven months while I was performing again, like, doing prize. And it was, like, all tightening up around, like, six months.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It was just like, you can see everything. You said you had a rib taken? You had, what? Well, they, like, scrape cartilage from, like, underneath your ribs to, like, because I had a revision, because I had a nose job in 2016. And they, um, so this is, like, my rib cartilage on my nose. Science is a beautiful thing. That is so wild that some person was like, let's take, uh, the rib.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah. And we're going to pop it right in that nose. Yeah, rib nose. Rib nose. Mm-hmm. I got a little bit of a rib. No, but that shit hurt. But it's fine.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And my mom was like a nurse, so she was like, wasn't letting me, like, take any, like, of my, like, medication. She's like, you're fine. Take Advil. And I'm like, I'm dying. You can't even laugh. My ribs are all bruised up. But yeah. I had surgery on my ankle because I fell down the stairs.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Took a little tumble. And my doctor was like, all right, take the painkillers for a week. But after a week, just remember there's a screw, a rod in your ankle. Yeah. It's going to be painful. And I was like, okay, whatever. And by like week two, I was like, Mm, got to take my little pinkie.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And I was like, ah, that's what he was talking about. Okay. I see how people get addicted. This is fun. This crew feels good. I feel so nice. Have a glass of wine and go swimming on my couch. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Wine and pills. So before drag race and before Idol, were you, wait, how old were you an idol? Oh, 17. Were you dating in high school? No. I also didn't date in high school. No? No.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. I didn't know how people were doing it. I was like, so you go to school all day, and then you have a full-blown relationship, and then maybe you run track? What the fuck? When do you sleep? I didn't want to get ready for school.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I'm not going to turn of like peacock on a bitch at school. Like, no, I was in my pajamas and shit. My first relationship, I was, it was during one of my first tours ever, right after drag race in Australia I met my first ex-boyfriend and we had a long-distance
Starting point is 00:13:03 relationship for almost seven months and then where they were in Australia and you were here? Oh my God. We just like go back and forth by it. Very fuck. Oh my God, you go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:13:12 That is a long fucking flight. Yeah, dedicated motherfuckers. My God. It was intense. But yeah, it just didn't work. I wrote an album about it. Got some tattoos after we broke up like an idiot.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Wait, did you get tattoos of him? Just, like, little things that, like, meant, like, certain things for him. I'm getting them lasered as me to speak. Not joking, like, three days ago, my six laser session on my back. But, yeah, that was my first relationship. And then this one that I'm in right now is my second. So, like, it went, like, 12 years of not seriously dating, just, like, hooking up with, like, go-go downstairs on the road.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And just roadies. just drunken sex. And that's why I have to compare it too. So it's kind of trouble. I'm like, this is healthy. This feels weird. Like, that's trippy. I'm also in a relationship
Starting point is 00:14:06 and it's so healthy, it blows me away. And sometimes I'll be like, what if I stir up some crazy? And it's like, what are you doing? But it is wild to be like, oh, this is healthy, this is nice. I can just talk to this person about my issues
Starting point is 00:14:20 and they're not going to get mad at me. They're not going to like break. up with me or anything? Like, it's so weird. Yeah. I'm like, why are you understanding me right now? Yes. Um, yeah, it's, it's nothing to, I can't compare it to anything. So it's kind of like, right? It's like, yeah. It's like, okay, so am I doing this right? You're like, feels good. So, and I'm not being a fucking dickhead. So, you know, and I listen to. And that, those are the rules. Don't be a fucking dickhead. Mm-hmm. A door real quick. We got to take a break. Today's segment is brought to you by Bumble, the go-to dating app for finding love.
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Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, but you can, like, one thing that American Idol taught me was, like, because I was a teenager on that, and I was, like, partying in Hollywood. And, like, learning how to, like, weed the hungry tigers. Paris Hilton used to say in simple life. You can, like, smell them out. But, I mean, like, I would go for it when I was, like, drunk. Like, whatever. You live once.
Starting point is 00:16:45 We're not serious about this. I'm never going to see you again. Just don't steal my laptop. But it's like, yeah, yeah. Like, and you would weed. through them and just be like, but I was on the road a lot and kind of dealing with it in person and
Starting point is 00:16:59 and not caring. Whatever, I would do it too. Like, this is gonna blow over soon. So might as well take advantage of it. What's one of your wildest hookups? Wildest hookups. Oh, my God. There's a lot, girl.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Like, sometimes I'm even like, what the fuck was that? Like, why did you do that? probably in Canada like I would like hook up with a lot of go-go guys and like as a little gay boy like I was literally just like barely I was like 23 after drag race
Starting point is 00:17:36 like about to be 24 Oh God that's so young It's wild That's so young to be like thrust into the spotlight It's wild Making money that you've never seen before Yeah And you're 23 years old
Starting point is 00:17:47 And do anything that you want to do around the You're like yeah Like what the fuck a gogo wants to have sex with me that's crazy yeah probably just like the go-go vibes and just like hooking up there was just one hookup
Starting point is 00:18:01 in Toronto that was like wild we filmed it and then I showed Courtney, Bianca, and Darien like in our group chat and I remember Courtney's like you need to delete that they're going to get in on eye cloud they're going to get it on eye cloud and that was wild
Starting point is 00:18:17 I would like do some of that weird drunken shit And, yeah, like, go-go's. I remember when Atlanta, I slept with, like, a go-go guy. That was just why I was like, like, gross shit. Like, in the mean-greed, like, whisper shit in my ear. And I'm like, fat, like, yeah. Here's my room number. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And one time I hooked up with this guy that was, like, a go-go guy, and I had, like, a crook-nails on. And I was, like, so dysphoric about it. I was, like, trying to hide my hands, like, mittens the whole time. And I was like, this is not working. Like, I was just like, hey, like, just caressing the chin with my knuckles. But, yeah, just, like, wild go-go sex and finding it.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Or, like, Bianca and I would be out. She won't care if I tell this. And we'd, like, be out in, like, England. And then it'd be, like, oh, that go-go guy's hot or whatever. Like, that bartender's hot. And then I'd find out, like, she'd hook up with him, like, the same night. Be like, got him. Got him.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I'm like, damn, man. She's, like, too slow, fan. we'd be on the bus like the next day Too slow facts Damn it That's a good Bianca Yep I once filmed myself
Starting point is 00:19:29 Fucking somebody And I watched it back And I was like In no way did I think that's what I looked like Yeah It felt right though right In the moment It felt right
Starting point is 00:19:37 But watching it back I was like Oh no Yeah We gotta change some of these The way we're arching And what we're doing with our body.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah. I once, so I used to snore a lot and I have this snoring app that you just like put on while you're sleeping. And I left it on once and then the dude I was seeing
Starting point is 00:19:59 we ended up fucking. And then I was like, now I have to concentrate on what I sound like. Oh. Because like I've seen what I look like and that was a trip. But then I was like,
Starting point is 00:20:08 just the podcast of sex was so upsetting. Yeah. You hear the audio back? Oh my God. I was like, oh. Yeah. It's like cringing yourself to death.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yes. Oh my God. But like we filmed this shit on a fucking laptop. This is like in 2013 and on like I movie. Open up photo booth. Photo booth. It was photo booth down. And I'm like, ew, like the crunching of the laptop like falling off the bed.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And I ended up like literally showing Courtney and Bianca. I'm like, ew, that is disgusting. What a pig bitch I was. Like, Jesus Christ. That's so funny. Look at what a pig bitch I was. I never wanted to see that girl. Watch it.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Watch that. So groaty. It was so gross. I love it. We've grown. Demure women not doing that anymore. Unless you want to. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Just don't film it on fucking, what is it? Photo booth. Don't say photo book. It was really going to age myself. Woo! Hey, kids. I haven't thought about photo book. and so long.
Starting point is 00:21:17 There was a, this is like sidebar. Speaking of not hearing things for so long, I opened TikTok and they were like, oh, we miss MySpace. And it was like an old MySpace picture of me when I was like 14.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And somebody like tagged me and was like, not a door when she was like 13 on MySpace. My boyfriend had a kick at that. Anyway. Yeah. I do miss MySpace. I miss the top eight
Starting point is 00:21:41 and getting mad at a friend and removing them from my top eight. I miss, like, charging my friends to code for them, like HTML. Yes. Making it sparkle in the background and putting a little song. Girls, they want to have fun, as, like, purple glitter happened. A little star cursor, like, or a little cigarette that smoke. I'm like, oh, that's going to cost you five more dollars for my lunch money.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You would charge people? Yeah, I would. I'd be like, that's three bucks, dude. It's just a cursor. She's a businesswoman. I love it. Yep. Now I charge them for different things.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I have a question. Your style. It's fun. Oh, God. Is it? I love it. Really? I like the ripped jeans
Starting point is 00:22:25 and I like the fishnets underneath. How did you get your style? How did you figure it out? I'm a huge fan of like Drew Barrymore in the 90s. Okay. I see that. Her poison ivy era. I love 90s girls.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I love like kind of like the throw on like oversized. Kind of like is she stinky? Is she not? Like I don't know. I kind of do love that. Kind of just throw it together But yeah Like I just
Starting point is 00:22:50 I love the 90s Is she stinky Or is she not really stuck with me That's really fucking funny Like oh she's pretty But does she have deodorant on? And what's the answer? The world will never know
Starting point is 00:23:04 Learning and lessons That's the answer But yeah probably that And like punk bands growing up And just like the riot girl movement I loved all that shit growing up I'm just, like, kind of taking, like, my own, my own, like, grasp of femininity and, like, putting a little twist to it and having a little edge and grit. You don't know if she has a knife in her brawl or not.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I like that your aesthetic is mystery. Is she stinky? Does she have a knife? Yes. Yes. Yes, my Scorpio Rising. We'll just call it that. I want to talk about sobriety.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So you've been sober since 2021? Did I make that up? I'm on my third year, November 6th. So that would be 2022. And what was the decision? Was it just like, oh, I don't vibe well with this. I got to stop. Yeah, that was really weird.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Oh, again in Australia. We were on tour. A lot of epiphanies happening in Australia. Should I move there? No, it was in Melbourne, Australia on a full moon. Oh, witchy. I was, we had like three days to chill before doing a show and something just told me like, you're locking yourself in here because I had friends that wanted to party that night and they wanted to party.
Starting point is 00:24:24 They wanted to go hard. Everything was free. Oh. Everything. Well, that's a nice time. Uh-huh. Especially for her back then. I was very excited about that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 But no, I locked myself in the hotel room and I just didn't leave for three days, kind of detoxed a little bit. And then never, I'd never drank again. didn't do really anything after that. Like, something just, like, spoke to me was, like, you are losing everything. You're not wanting to do anything. I was just, like, super lazy, just kind of, like, self-sabotagey.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And as soon as I, like, stopped for, like, a few months, like, all these, like, dope blessings started happening, like, not to get all spiritual and shit, but, like, they just started falling into my lap, and I'm like, oh, that's how that wear. And then I just kept it up. And now I think three years, November 6. will be...
Starting point is 00:25:14 Congratulations. Thanks. That's wonderful. Thank you. I've been trying to do mindful drinking. Yeah. Where like there was a month where I said, I'm not going to drink anything.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And then I kept going to dinners and being like, glass of wine, and then being like, oh, it's just a habit. It's a thing that I just do. I sit down at a restaurant and I go, wine. Yeah. And I was like, let's just be a little bit more mindful. Maybe you don't order wine in the beginning. Maybe you just have a nice conversation with your friends.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Yeah. And maybe you don't actually need a glass of anything. Yeah. Maybe you have water. Maybe you have a diet Coke and get wild. Ooh, busy. It's like a code for everybody individually, though. It's like whatever works for you.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Like I wish I could like like just drink normally. But like it was fucking wild. It's breaking like my hands and just like punching shit. It was wild. It was like Courtney Love in the 90s like bad doing compacts of Madonna and shit. Like it was really bad. But yeah, like I think. it's just like a code for everybody and I see my friends I can handle it and I'm like
Starting point is 00:26:16 lokey jealous a little bit but like it just didn't work for me and maybe when I'm like older not to speak that into existence but maybe it'll work for me but right now I'm like this is not for you just live your life a little bit and just see whatever like comes to you and maybe it'll come back maybe it won't maybe it won't but I do like that you said it doesn't work for me because I feel like a lot of people look around and mimic things that work for us other people, but don't necessarily work for themselves. And it's like, well, you just kind of have to be real with yourself. If it's not working, you should make a change.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah. We all have a different, like, psychological makeup, too, and, like, what we can handle. Not see it all deep again, but, like, past traumas, all this shit. Like, that all plays into, like, and comes out in certain characters. And some people don't have that. Like, some people just want to have a good time and can do that. So, yeah, not the copy and pasting shit with life that never works out. Because there was a time in my life where I was a binge drinker, ooh, baby.
Starting point is 00:27:18 She'd knock back 10 vodka sodas and then be like, oh, no, I have to sleep for the whole next day. And it's like, well, that's not working. I have to maybe drink half of that so I can wake up and do anything the next day. That was me. You just have to kind of like sit with yourself and be like, is this good or is this bad? Yeah. And a lot of times it's going to be bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Like, you know what? I won't have like a bottle of Tito's. I'll just have like a bottle of wine. And then like when the fucking liquor store guy knows you by like first name, he's like, you want a bottle of wine? I'm like, fuck yeah. Oh no. This is where they know my name.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Uh-huh. He's like, oh no, we don't need your card. I'm like, yeah, fuck you too. Your money is no good here. Just take it. And you're like, oh my God. Okay, this is my life. He's like, good for you.
Starting point is 00:28:09 You won't be here for too long. Take it. I want to pivot back to dating. What's your, like, what's your favorite date you've ever been on? My favorite date I've ever been on? Probably the first date with my boyfriend. Yeah. It was just, like, super innocent.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Like, we just, like, ate and, like, karaoke and played pool. And it was, like, we talked. And, like, I don't really get that a lot. Like I said, I didn't really, like, date a lot prior to transitioning. it was just like hookups mostly around the world. Sometimes I forget to feel like when I meet people like, hey, and then like say something like, oh my God, I know you. I know you biblically.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I'm like 2014. I remember you at the Hillton. Probably that though. The first date with my boyfriend was like it was different. It was like a proper date, kind of innocent. There wasn't anything like sexual or like nasty. Yeah. The other ones are just like...
Starting point is 00:29:11 Like whatever. They were just like weird. Or like very like inappropriate and like weird. And I'm like, ill. And I'm very like in two... I can like see past like somebody's like dead stare. I'm like, what are you doing? Like, God, if you had a car at slas your tires.
Starting point is 00:29:27 But it was just... It gives that. But yeah, probably my boyfriend's first date. I love that. Yeah. My favorite date with my boyfriend is he took me to... There was a pop... I've talked about this on the...
Starting point is 00:29:39 the podcast, but there was a Sonic the Hedgehog pop-up cafe called the Sonic Speed Cafe. And it was in Chino Hills. So we drove, I think, for an hour. And I think this was our third or fourth date. So we didn't really know each other. But we like talk the whole way there. We like talk while we were there. And then we walked around a Barnes & Noble.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I was like, my favorite cookies are here. Because at the Starbucks and Barnes & Noble, they have a chocolate peanut butter cookie. That's very nice. Oh, they're special there. it's an exclusive so I got one and we like shared it and then we just like talked
Starting point is 00:30:15 about books and then we talked the whole way home and he was like oh I was a little nervous because I didn't know what it would be like to just like be with you for like a solid five hours
Starting point is 00:30:27 and he was like and it was just really nice we just didn't run out of things to talk about and I like just got to know you a little bit better and I was like I liked it too and I didn't get sick of you
Starting point is 00:30:37 yeah it felt different right You're like, oh, wait a minute. Yeah, I was like, oh, I think I could spend all my time with this person. Yeah, it's totally different. And you're like, oh, that's what they talk about. Okay. And it's like weirdly innocent and cute, but you're also filling things.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yes. This is different. Yes. We were truly walking around Barnes & Noble and I was like, I hope he kisses me. Aw, cute. And he'd already kissed me, but like, I was like, I want more kisses. That's what you're supposed to be feeling. You're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, it was definitely different. You can feel a different spark, for sure. Do you know what you're going to do for your one-year anniversary? No, I just met his family in Connecticut. So I'm like, I want to go back there because it's super Hallmark card vibe. But yeah, probably go visit his family and do something or like do something different outside of L.A. Adora, this is so sweet. Just wholesome shit.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I just love it so much. Yeah, I'm boring. I was meeting his family. Was it, were you nervous? Um, a little. But, like, I kind of, like, chameleon. I'm a Libra. I can, like, fit in.
Starting point is 00:31:42 They're very, like, easy to talk to, though. And very, like, like, they just spark up conversation super easy and kind of make you feel comfortable. They're one of those families. And super cute. They all, like, sing, like, around with each other, the guitar. It's, like, super wholesome. And I'm like, where am I?
Starting point is 00:31:59 And you fit right in because you sing. Yeah. And I'm like, do not ask me to sing. Like, okay, I'll sing. Please. Don't ask, don't ask. Don't ask. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Don't make me sing. Don't make me sing. Don't make me. It was very, but it was easy. It was easy. And I was like, okay. Yeah. Everything is just wholesome and very sweet.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Oh, I fucking love that. I love love. People ask, they're like, do you think you'll stop doing this podcast? I'm like, no. Yeah. Because I really love hearing about people's relationships, how they find love, how they move through life in love. Or I just had Ingeria on, she says hello. I love Angeria.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I love Angeria too. And I liked listening to her be so assertive in what she wants and like so clear-headed about it. And it just warms my little heart. Yeah. And again, like everybody has a code with that too and what makes them feel sparkly and comfortable. But yeah, I love Angeria. She's a Libra as well. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You know about signs and stuff. Some, yeah. I'm a Virgo Uh-huh Tell me about a Virgo Tell me about me Let me see I have Virgo friends
Starting point is 00:33:16 Do you like Are you like tidy Ish Do like dirty tables bother you When you're out like at a bar Nobody's like picking up the napkins Yeah that's like usually my Virgo friends Are like the ones that like are like
Starting point is 00:33:29 Put the fucking cup in the trash Like it's like very like Organized usually very career-like driven. Usually, like, a lot of my friends are like, and this is the video that I'm doing. And it's very, like, in, like, it's organized, like, in a row. But I don't know, like, too much.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I know my mercury is in Virgo, so the way that I communicate. What does Mercury and Virgo mean? I think Mercury is the way that you, like, communicate, I think, and the way that you have, like, discussions and, like, I think hard conversations is what my friend would tell me. Mine's in, like, Virgo. So I think I just think thoroughly about like what I'm about to say Because words have meaning
Starting point is 00:34:07 Words do have meaning But yeah, that's pretty much all I know I mean all like iconic people are Virgoes Beyonce's a Virgo right? She is. She is. Liber Rising. Yes, we love Beyonce. September 4th, happy birthday, Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Uh-huh, happy birthday, Beyonce. Imagine she listens to this podcast and she was like, oh my God, I was wondering when she would wish me a happy birthday. I was like, what? And she did it. And she did it. So, Hova, come inside. She wished me a happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Blue. Oh, Blue's there too. Yeah. Rumi, sir. I love Beyonce. Me too. How did you get into singing? How did I get into singing?
Starting point is 00:34:52 I just always have since almost little. My mom has me like on camera when I'm like one and a half singing like the Lassie theme song. You know that dog Lassie? No. Oh, wait. Yes. I do you know Lassie. I didn't know there was a theme song, though.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Oh, no. She has me on there with a mullet saying, Lassie. But, yeah, I mean, I've always just sang and put on shows for, like, my neighbors and, like, my family. Super, like, weird, eccentric kid that always, like, made my VMAs
Starting point is 00:35:19 in the backyard of my house in Azusa. My mom's just, like, Jesus Christ. But, yeah, just always sing at school, too, talent shows. I love how much your mom is a champion for you. She is. You want to sing, go sing. She really is.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Whatever you want to do, I'm here for you. I fucking love that. She's iconic. She would even, like, take off work and be like, you called what? I'm like, the radio station and there's, like, competitions in Hollywood. And, like, we have to pay $1,000 if I win. But, like, I was like, fuck them. And then I would get, like, I would win.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And my mom was like, I'm not paying shit. Like, there's no way. But you know what? You do you, kid. Yeah, I'm very grateful for that. If I ever do have kids, I would take a lot from her, like, accepting this. But not for me. Not for me
Starting point is 00:36:04 Not for me Don't want them Do you have any advice for single people? I think it's different for everybody And it depends I think like where you live If you're dating The dating pool is different everywhere
Starting point is 00:36:15 I think like As long as you don't like settle I think that's like a big thing Especially with like trans girls No matter where you are in your transition Like it's a lot of like And I mean like for women in general It's like a lot of like
Starting point is 00:36:31 I'm just speaking from the trans experience, like upkeep, bro, like to leave the fucking house. Like, I'm not going to be like spending thousands of dollars on myself when, like, you're being like a loser dickhead fuck. And it's like, like, you have to really take yourself out of it and look at it in a bird's eye view and be like, is this worth it? Like, is the bread crumbing worth it from the fucking bassist
Starting point is 00:36:53 in a band that never gets a gig? Like, it's probably not. Yeah, and like sometimes the people that you least expect it are the ones that were meant for you. Sometimes patterns don't work for a reason. Switch it up a little bit. It's feeling warm and cozy. It's probably good.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Butterflies aren't always like the best sign when it makes you sweat on the top of your lip and you're getting a little nervous. Probably run the other way. You know, it'll be like intriguing and fun for a second. But ultimately, probably bad. That was a thing I had to learn that butterflies are bad. if someone is triggering something in your nervous system
Starting point is 00:37:34 that's like making you feel like I need to get out of here or I don't want to go or you probably don't want to go and you probably should not go. Your body's physically shaking you. It's like I will leave if you don't bitch. Like get the fuck out of here. Get out. I did love that you said
Starting point is 00:37:49 you invested so much in yourself that like other people should meet you there. Yeah. Because whether or not you've had surgery or not you are an investment. You're doing work. you're living life. You should at least go out with somebody
Starting point is 00:38:04 who wants to meet you there. Absolutely. Who wants to treat you nice for the hour or two that you're together. 100%. It doesn't even have to be like surgical. Like it can be like mental. If you're investing in therapy,
Starting point is 00:38:15 if you're trying to like spiritually involve, if you're trying to like up your game and work, if you're like, everybody on this fucking planet should be an investment to themselves. If you're not going to meet me there and you don't add to my life? And I know a lot of people say that, but it's real once you get older, you're like,
Starting point is 00:38:32 you're not adding shit to my life. Yep. Why do I want to, like, go on a second day with you? Like, no, like, absolutely not. Kim Cottrell has one of my favorite quotes where she says, I'm going to butcher it, but it's essentially, I'm not doing something that's not fun for even a second.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yeah. And I think we should all live like that. I'm not doing it unless it's fun and we're having a nice time and you're treating me well. Because if you're treating me like, shit, what are we doing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And sometimes, like, I agree, sometimes I literally even feel that, like, if I don't add to that person's life, if I can't, like, there were, there was, like, a couple of times where I met somebody where I'm like, you know, like, you're a good guy, but I feel like we're just not the same, there's no, the makeup is not, the foundation can't even be laid. Yeah. Like, this is not going to work. Or, like, you can tell by the way I got to talk to you. Or you're like, oh, maybe you're looking for somebody else that can put up with that Or like maybe add to your fantasy with that Because like you'll get elbowed in the chin real quick Not for me
Starting point is 00:39:42 Not for me, I'll hit you I'm violent But yeah, both ways If you're not adding, if I'm not adding, like, he's out and chill Yeah Yeah, I like that When I was dating was not good at that I was truly not good at
Starting point is 00:40:00 peace out goodbye I'd be like no we'll work on this we'll make that foundation this house will stand I will triumph and it's like for what that's not a triumph winning somebody over is not a triumph
Starting point is 00:40:12 meeting somebody halfway and them wanting what you're giving is that's winning at least that's what I think did you ever like go through those experiences and try to like learn from it or something and like add it to the next do you feel like that like there were like
Starting point is 00:40:27 different leveling ups of like Like, I'm not fucking doing that because the last guy. Yes. Okay, so there were, like, examples of like, okay, that taught me a little bit. So it wasn't all negative? Yes. It wasn't all bad because, like, I'll be in therapy and I'll say X, Y, and Z happen. And my therapist will be like, well, remember when that happened with this person.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And I'm like, mm, yes, that was a lesson and I need to carry it on to this one. Yes. Yeah. It took me a while to, like, learn that and be like, oh, these are like repeating offenders. These are people that are showing up into your life in different forms because you're not taking it. Like, I had to learn that quick. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Especially after transitioning. Like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, you are literally in a cloak and you are the same person. Like, no, I'm good. But, yeah, lessons. Lessons and learning. That's the basis of life and it's beautiful. A hyacou poem.
Starting point is 00:41:24 I'm curious. How did you get into drag? It was not too long after Idol, actually. I was 18 years old, well, 17, when I did Idol. Then I turned 18, and then I started my first drag show at 21. I was going at 20, like, just sneaking through the back of Mickey's. But I saw Raven, who I'm, like, a huge fan of. I would just, like, watch.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Was this at Showgirls? Showgirls at Mickey's in WeHo. I was obsessed with her makeup, so I would just, like, sit there and watch her do her makeup. They were super kind enough to let me, like, come early and, like, see that. them how they do it. Entered a competition with LaGanja, Estrangea. She was like my homegirl back then in the drag scene. And then won my first competition.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And then it just kept like snowballing after that. And I hosted like my own show in Costa Mesa for like four people for like a good like five, six months. And then it started growing like just like organically from there. And then I incorporated my singing into it, which kind of like pulled me apart from everybody else with like Vicki Vox and Calpurnia Adams. love them of super big inspirations and that's just how it all just kind of snowballed right after Idol it's just like boom boom
Starting point is 00:42:34 I just like with like I love makeup I love singing what the fuck am I going to do with this? And what was your experience like on Idol? Idol seems like a huge machine where they truly just churn out so many fucking people huge machine I was a baby I remember being like I'm going to get on that show when I'm old enough
Starting point is 00:42:51 then they had like that run of American juniors for a year and I'm like got to do that. My mom's like no the fuck you're not She's like, grow up first, graduate, which I don't even have my GED. But, yeah. You don't need it. You don't need it. Plot twist.
Starting point is 00:43:07 No, but yeah, like, it was super huge. I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I just knew that I wanted to sing and do something with it. And that was like, I was like one of those kids that would call, like, radio stations for, like, singing competitions. Needed to get out of where I was from somehow. And the opportunity presented itself when they were doing auditions in San Diego when I was 16, made it to Hollywood
Starting point is 00:43:28 Week then, then got kicked off and then came back the year after and just like just like got me in front of like millions of people and then I started doing YouTube and then drag came right after that. Who were the judges when you were on? I got the last OG judges. Paula Simon and Randy.
Starting point is 00:43:44 It was the year before they switched it up. But yeah, love Paula. That was my girl. I love Paula. Paula is so I don't want to say Spacey but like she's just a lady who really lives in her own world and I love that for her
Starting point is 00:44:00 and weirdly good at TikTok like I'm like who the fuck is behind this like she's like on top of all of her everything on TikTok I'm not on TikTok you're not I don't do it oh my God well I haven't posted in like few months that I get it
Starting point is 00:44:15 is just gonna like do you scroll on these no no it's because I've explained it before the interface is like in dark mode and my phone is not in dark mode because the dark doesn't give me the dopamine that I want. I like it light and bright and airy. Mm-hmm. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I wake up and fucking scroll for coffee. I scroll on Instagram. I love Instagram. And it all aggregates to Instagram. I'm just very late on trends. Yeah. Reels, Instagram Reels. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Love them. Love them, love them, love them. Same. So you did a movie in South Africa, which is really fucking cool. Is acting something you want to get into a little bit more? Yeah. That's what I want to make. Like acting is what I want to make my main, like.
Starting point is 00:44:56 career. Like, I want to have that be my main focus and touring be kind of like my day job. I love touring. Like, I'm never going to stop doing that. But, like, I use my career as, like, kind of, like, an economic system.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Okay. To fund my acting career. Like, I want to really take that serious. And, like, yeah, so, like, just starting in horror. I'm a huge fan of horror movies, a huge fan of slashers. And I was like, how yeah, like South Africa? Like, You want me to do a movie? Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Like, I don't have any classes. Me? I haven't had any classes. I could die. And here's the thing. They'll never ask you if you've had a class. No? Nope. And I've done the classes and she's got a certificate. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:45:41 That says she can act and nobody's ass to say it. I can dodge the classes? You can definitely dodge those classes. Yeah. But what was it like shooting a scene where you had to die? It was wild, very, like, brutal. not to give anything away but like it was very physical
Starting point is 00:45:59 and there's a fight seeing in it and she's like really pulling my hair really hard by my ponytail and I was like cracking my neck and I'm like girl I'm gonna be 36 years old you are 27 like watch the neck but yeah it was like really physical
Starting point is 00:46:14 and a lot of not having to worry about being pretty like love that shit like I want to get gritty and gross I scared this shit out of a lot of the people on set, though, so that's cool. They were like, are you okay? Like, that was really disturbing to watch.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I was like, it's acting. I'm an actress. You were disturbed? I made you feel? Uh-huh. But you people do? You make people feel, don't you? No, it was fun.
Starting point is 00:46:43 It was very disturbing, very fun. We did ADR for it recently, and I was just, like, gurgling water. It was super fun. just like different thrill like a different like rush for me I was just having so much fun creating it watching the blocking and other actors doing everything
Starting point is 00:47:01 I was just like I don't know I just had a lot of fun and like Cape Town like why not it's just dope there is such a magic to making a movie or like a TV show that like people like it is really cool to watch your stand in who kind of like resembles you go through the blocking you're like I'm watching me but not me
Starting point is 00:47:21 and then you get to stay step in and do the blocking, and then you get to have, like, conversations with the director to be like, can I say this? And it's just, like, so collaborative and just, like, a magical thing. So I want more of that for you. I think you'll have fun. Thank you. I think so, too.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Like, I always wanted to do that since I was younger. But, yeah, watching the body doubles is hilarious. I'm like, oh, they got platforms on her ass. I'm a tall bit. I'm an Anna Nicole Smith ass bitch. Like, they got her in a high pony. But yeah, I'm really looking forward to like taking that more serious and stuff. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I want to do that. I love that. You're going to do that. Manifest it. I was once watching the monitor where my double was doing something. And I was looking at it and I was like, wow, I look so thin. And they were like, that's not you. And I was like, am I okay?
Starting point is 00:48:14 We don't have playback. And I was like, oh. You're like, no, that's me. I was like, no, I thought that was me. Yeah, just kidding. We don't have playback. With touring, I don't know if you feel this way, but the older I get, the more I'm like, this shit's fucking exhausting.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I am so tired when I come back now. In my 20s, I was fine. Yeah. I could bounce. I, like, fly back on a Sunday, be working again on a Monday. But now I'm like, oh, boy, I need to take a day and really recuperate. Yeah. I have a cramp in my neck as I'm speaking to you.
Starting point is 00:48:47 right now, I swear. It's like, it's not the same in your 30s. And I remember Bianca telling me that, like, oh, yeah, just wait. Like, yeah, right. But it's the funky hotel beds, the plane, your knees bent for like six hours, you not getting enough water, not getting enough sleep, and then performing, and then your voice kind of like blows out sometime. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It's a lot. And it's mostly the traveling for me. Yes. Because the performing is. fun and like we could do that like in our sleep and stuff but it's like traveling and then like flight delays and then the stress with that and then handling like not to be like oh well well poor me like I'm trapped but it's like it fucks you up it does like four days in a row like that will really like send you into like a week of sleep uh-huh especially if you do different cities
Starting point is 00:49:37 those four days like if you stay there that's one thing you kind of like catch up on time or whatever but like you leave after the show you're in a different city you leave after that That... 5 a.m. pickup. You're like, lovely. Oh, 5 a.m. pickups can suck my dick. My God, they suck. The sun hasn't come up yet.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And you're like, did I ever see the sun again? Where am I? Who am I? Where's my mom? I need her. It's a lot. The traveling is a lot. And I think that that's what I was like kind of like
Starting point is 00:50:07 putting into perspective. I'm like, how long do you want to do this? Like, what is your main, like, goal in life? Attack that. Like, like, doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing that. but it's also like, put your energy into this and see what comes and cool things are coming and I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I'm gonna fucking take it serious, but I still love Torring. I also really love Tori. I know I just shit on it real hard. Fuck you, Tori. I thought I love hate. It is a love hate and I just put up some like boundaries for myself.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Like I stopped doing meet and greets because there was just something about doing a show, doing a meet and greet and doing a show and then doing a meet and greet that I was like, so now I've tacked on an extra two hours of not even performing, but like being on. Because I would hate for someone to come to a show, do a meet and greet, pay the extra, and I'm just like, nice to meet you, da, da, da, da.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And it's like, no, I'm going to engage with you. I want to talk to you. I want you to have an experience. But I'm like, I can't, I just physically can't do that part anymore. I would even argue that, like, the meet and greed is part of the performance because you are on. Yeah. And I remember Bianca tell me, like, as soon as you get into that car and, like, if you get picked up from a promoter or somebody that's, like, linked with the venue,
Starting point is 00:51:18 you are on. You are on. You have to be pleasant. You have to be nice. My mom used to tell me that, too, but it's like I always have to be on, like as soon as they're in baggage or something, you're like, how are you?
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yes, did you have a good day? Yeah. And it's funny to be like, yes, being polite is part of the job, but like it is. And there are times where, like, you know, someone's picked me up for a show or whatever. I don't feel like fucking talking. I'm tired.
Starting point is 00:51:44 but it's like, well, I'm not going to be an asshole to you. I will engage. I can shut down in the green room. That. You just stare at a wall and they're like, you're on in five. And you're like, yes. Let me conjure this somehow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Let me brew this shit up. It's pretty trippy. It's fucked up for the psyche, too, a little bit. Because you're like, if you are having a bad day, no one gives a fuck. No, they don't give a fuck. They don't. Especially if they're meeting you. Like, they're like having that, like,
Starting point is 00:52:14 10-second experience with you or a minute experience with you and you have to make it worth like they're paying for that shit. They're paying for it. So you have to make it special. For sure. So that's why I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:23 I simply cannot do that anymore. When you toured, well, you were with other drag race girls but you've toured alone, yes? Yeah, I tore it with like a band usually or like I'll do like just alone. How do you feel after doing a show where like there's hundreds or thousands of people
Starting point is 00:52:42 who are so excited to see you and then you're just alone in the hotel room after. It used to trip me the fuck out. Yep. Like, it still trips me out. Does it? Yeah. It just,
Starting point is 00:52:53 I think it was like when I started drinking a lot. Like not to like pull it back to that, but I would be like, fuck it, just go find the local bar or something and get your mind off of this. Because like, why? Like, why me?
Starting point is 00:53:04 I would be there, but like, dude, you were so, like, messy. And like, if they really knew who you were, like, it's like that. Yeah, you just start talking to yourself because you're just alone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And then the silence is loud. Louder than the fucking cherrying. Uh-huh. I start turning into like Marilyn Monroe or like that like imposter syndrome where like if they really knew, do they know, who do they love? Like we're all just people and like not to act like I'm like, oh fucking, but it's like this is wild and like why me? I would always think that like and like I started to resent it a lot. But yeah, now I'm like, or to talk about shut up, go live if you feel lonely or like call your mom or something. Like, I still do feel it, though.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Like, if it's a big show, I'm like, oh, like, it's so quiet. And you're just like, take your lashes off and go take a bath. Like, just like, chill out. Mm-hmm. Order some food. Yep. Chill out. And just like, be one with your...
Starting point is 00:53:58 I said this before. In this episode, be one with yourself. Check in. Yeah. But it's nice to have a partner because now I can call him after shows and be like, can I, like, decompress? And he's always like, did you talk to a weirdo in the audience? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And then I'll, like, tell him the story. And then it's... It's just like nice that someone, I think the silence was loud when I was single because I was like, who do I have to share this with? Yeah. Because it is a very isolating experience. Yeah. And I'm like, who? Me?
Starting point is 00:54:26 A friend? Do I call a friend? Yeah. And I'm sure a friend would be happy to receive a phone call. But like, in my head, I'd be like, well, they shouldn't have to support me like that. Yeah. Then in hindsight, I could have. It would have probably been nice.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah. You sit with that. And you have, and like, that's like energy exchange. You sometimes take on, like, people's, like, stories or, like, their energy when they're giving it to you and you're like, and I, like, start rolling it. Yeah, you have to sit with that. It is good to have a partner, though, to kind of, like, just, like, sit there and listen. Again, the cozy and healthiness, like, that type of shit. It's like, oh, that's a boy friends, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yes. And at first, I was like, well, I don't want to bother you if I'm, like, out of town and it's late at night. And he's like, it's L.A. It's earlier for me. Please call me after your shows if you want to. And I was like, okay. I fucking love you. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:55:17 He's so wonderful and kind. I love that. And it's funny because when I was single, I was like, I want someone who's kind and nice to me. Yeah. And then I kept dating, like, awful assholes. And now that I have someone who's, like, kind and wonderful, in therapy, I'm like, do I deserve it? Which is like. Because you're not used to it.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Hey, like, you're like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, you deserve that shit. You wanted that You manifested that I did Yes And you got it I got it and it's wonderful
Starting point is 00:55:49 What's it like Traveling together I like I like love turbulence on a plane You're the only person That's the wildest thing I've ever heard I love like feel I love roller coasters and stuff
Starting point is 00:56:06 And I know like I feel like I have like a deep knowing That we're all going to be okay It just feels scary I'm a thrill-seeker, and he, like, freaks out. We travel really well together, but he's afraid of flying a bit. So, like, it's very, like, I calm him down and stuff. But traveling is easy, but, like, the flying, it's, like, a lot of, like, I'm like, you're chill. Like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And I'll, like, he'll have his, like, air pods in it. And I'm like, we're going through rough air. We're going to hit a few bumps to pilot just sad. So I'm just letting you know, like, it's going to be fine. That's really sweet. But it's cool. And you, do you travel with your boyfriend? Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:41 and I was a little nervous about it because I was like, I have my traveling down to a science. Yeah. I have a bag that's already pre-packed with, like, makeup and, like, my toiletries and shit so I don't have to, like,
Starting point is 00:56:52 continuously, like, move things from one bag to another. I only bring a carry-on. I refuse to check a bag. I get to the airport. Well, it used to be 15 minutes before boarding. But now I've got to go a little earlier because Delta keeps leaving early.
Starting point is 00:57:07 They keep scheduling flights and then leaving five minutes early. So now I was like, I'll make the adjustment. Boarding early too. I'm like, what the fuck you can do that? Yes, I'm like, I need those five minutes. Those five minutes are prime real estate for me.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And I've been left. I've been left one too many times. So I was like, let me get there a little earlier. So I was like a little worried about that. But then he was like, hey, what if we got there a half hour before boarding? That would make me feel more comfortable. And I was like, I think I can do that. And then he's super chill to travel with.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And I was like, whoa, that was so easy. You could come with me anywhere. Like, it was just, it was nice because I've traveled with friends where I'm like, I'll never go to another place with you again. Yeah. This was awful.
Starting point is 00:57:51 You're bad on a plane. You're bad in an airport. You're bad in the car. I hate you. But you're nice at a restaurant in L.A. It tells you a lot about a person the way they travel. And I always say, like, my favorite,
Starting point is 00:58:01 like, first, and this isn't a sound insane. A first date to learn about somebody is going to a theme park or a second date. You can go do coffee or whatever and be like, let me learn how you act and, like, let me learn your patience levels. Let me learn, like, what you're afraid of, what you love. Like, what you, do you, are you, like, into the games?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Are you rude to other people? Like, it's like, there's a lot of frustrated, like, specifically Six Flags, because there's a lot of walking and a lot of, like, what kind of person are you? Like, what are you going to give? And I've learned a lot about a person after doing that after, like, a second date. And I'm like, never again. At first I was, like, wild. That's wild behavior to go on a second date at Six Flags.
Starting point is 00:58:41 But the more you explained it, I was like, that is actually a good litmus test. Are you going to be mad that we have to stand in line to get on this ride? Are you going to complain? Are you a scarity cat? Like, do you, are you rude to children or whatever? That's, honestly, that's a good. Yeah. Do you want to get a fast pass or do you want to wait?
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah, are you cheap? Are you impatient? Are you mean? Yeah. Are you cheap? Always get the fast pass. Yeah, I always. have to. I haven't been to Six Flags in so long. It's been a minute. We just went to
Starting point is 00:59:16 Universal recently. I've never been to the park. You've been to City Walk. Yeah, I've been to City Walk. I haven't been in the park. Is it fun? It's Universal. It's giving way two hours each line. Oh my God. But yeah, again, just like in learning people's patience levels and just like, let's just maybe not and walk around the park and go on like three rides. So a total of like, what, six hours, it would be enough. And then we'll spend, like, an hour seeing the park and we can go. But it's very just wait unless the group that you're with wants to all get a fast pass. You got to get the fast pass.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I also like an amusement park will show you if someone is indecisive. Yes. Because it's like, oh, do you want to ride this or do you want to do that? And so, whatever you're feeling, no, what are you feeling? I asked you first. Yes. Are you a charge person? Are you a you can figure it out?
Starting point is 01:00:10 like do you really think like a fast pass is worth like 200 and I'm like yes yeah we're getting the gold for the experience for not waiting yes I want to do that and I want to park real close yeah I stopped talking to a guy after after I was like oh I hate you like I'm never going to do anything with you again so we might as well just cut it now like can't yeah ador I fucking love that yeah survive well we have come to the end yes we Can I ask a question that I ask, oh, my guest, would you date me? You? Me.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Yes. A fast pass holder? Fuck yeah. Travels well, knows a touring life. We're in. Nicole, fast pass buyer. Do you have anything you want to promote a door? Not really.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Just my movie in December and, yeah, just getting into acting. Book her. Book me. If you're a casting director. or watching. Book her. Book me. I'm ready. Also book me. Yeah, book on. Times have been tough. If you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me, you can like it, you can rate it, you can subscribe, you can give me five stars on Apple Podcasts. And if you write me something nasty hitting on me to Why Won't You Date Me podcast at gmail.com, I will read it out loud.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Also, please keep them short. Some people have been writing essays, and Mars doesn't want that. Okay. This person writes, hey, my name's Dale. You can call me butter cookie. It fucking does. You ever had a man untie a helium balloon and blow it up your cooch hole? It tightens up so good. With the magic of helium, all your pink insides tighten up with anticipation. I trust you up like a Thanksgiving turkey and stick that balloon deep in your cavity hole.
Starting point is 01:02:02 As I casually try to put you in the oven at 350, you become offended and demand an orgasm. You start humping as you come and pop the balloon. You've ruined my balloon, Nicole. I was going to give you my gravy and you pop the balloon. I guess there's levels to things like this. I shouldn't come here expecting to know the official rules of balloon hole. That's a lot. But at least you got yours.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I touch your nose and winks slyly at you. You grin and audibly fart from Butter Cookie. Butter cookie, that was wild, but I liked it. Yeah. Okay. Bye bye. Oh, you've been listening to Why Won't You Date Me with me, Nicole Beyer. This show is produced and edited by Mars with executive producer Anya Kennef Skiya.
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