Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Oversharing (w/ Yvie Oddly & Ryan Mitchell)

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

Drag Race winner Yvie Oddly (season 11) and co-host Ryan Mitchell (HIGHKEY!) join Nicole to overshare.Yvie discusses her reaction to Ariana Grande naming her a favorite, her thoughts on the i...nternet's response to her season of Drag Race, the details of her open relationship, and getting stretched out by a didgeridoo. Ryan shares his history of dating terrible men, getting cheated on 7 times, and the time he followed a stranger to a hotel for a hookup that could’ve been a murder. They all discuss the craziest things a hookup has said while they were inside you, the hottest kind of dirty talk, and whether the Simpsons are Black. We had a wild time. Tune in!For more Yvie and Ryan, check out their podcast, HIGHKEY! Available on YouTube as well.Watch this episode on our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@WhyWontYouDateMePodcastSupport this podcast and get discounts by checking out our sponsors:Aura Frame: Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/DATEME. Promo Code DATEMEQuince: Find gifts so good you'll want to keep them with Quince. Go to Quince.com/dateme for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too.Planned Parenthood: Donate to support Planned Parenthood now at PlannedParenthood.org/DefendFollow:All Links: linktr.ee/whywontyoudatemeTour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenYouTube: @WhyWontYouDateMePodcastTikTok: @whywontyoudatemepod Instagram: @nicolebyerX: @nicolebyerNicole's book, #VERYFAT #VERYBRAVE: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Why Won't You Date Me? via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Want to watch this episode? Catch the full video on YouTube. Just hit the link in the episode description. This is a headgum podcast. I can take a black guy as long as I stretch beforehand. How are you stretching? With like a speculum? I honestly should.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Drink it? Even as a kid, like when I got curious about my butthole, it went straight from finger into didgeridoo. Like, I realized that was the first foreign object inside me. Oh, what's a didgerid? It is a long thing that's like, Oh, it's like a... Is this a hyperbole?
Starting point is 00:00:37 Or did you actually put a didgeridoo inside of you? You better believe I didgerid girl. Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell me why. Oh, baby. Welcome to another episode of Why I Want You, Dade Me a podcast for me, Nicole Byer, was trying to figure out why I was so single, even though you could come on an outlet and tell me, it's a tiny charger. My guests today, I have two of them. One is a drag superstar and winner of Rupal's Drag Race Season 11. The other is a pop culture diva commenter and media personality. And together they come. host the podcast. Hi, Key. I'm so excited they're here. It's Evie Oddly and Ryan Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Hey! The best introduction ever, huh? Yeah, honestly, I feel like I'm coming to the shit boxing. It's like, who's that girl? Like, Mulan looking in the sea. Like finding out. Oh, my God. Who's that girl I see? Standing there. Who's that girl I see? Staring. I simply cannot sing. How did you two meet?
Starting point is 00:02:00 You know, like every other day. Literally two days ago. I don't know this bitch. No, it's literally our second time like getting to be together in person. And it's crazy because high key was an inception by spoke media that we really wanted to have like a show that was sort of at this intersection of like the view and just like black queer mess. Right. We want to be able to talk about the things that we deserve to talk about it in our way. And we were like, wait, we need a little spin of this.
Starting point is 00:02:29 We need to have, like, a drag queen, like, to really come on and give that vibe. And so they called, like, five drag queens. And they were like, uh-uh, we're all busy, bitch. And I was like, I'm not. I'm not busy. I mean, I'm booked and blessed, but, like, not right now. And then Evie said, yes, which we were so excited because I keep saying this, like, Evey is in my top five drag queens of all times.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yes. And she's not five, and she's not four, and she's not three. And so it's one of those things where I'm like, But she's two, maybe? Listen, I don't like, I'm not going to bitch around the number one spot because they're most likely older than me and going to die soon. Honestly, then there'll be a space open. But then it was just like we did a test and it just was magic.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It was kind of crazy. And then I was like, I found out she was in August Lee and I was like, how are we both Leo's doing this show? Are we going to die now or later? Later. Later. At some point, but we're enjoying the ride. Yeah, she's really, it's really cute right now.
Starting point is 00:03:31 It's like, it's like Daniel in the Lion's Den, and every week a different person gets to come in and try and slay our pussies. Yes. I love to slay my pussy. I didn't read the Bible, so I might have gotten that right. I was like, who is Daniel? I don't know. I didn't know either. I was just going to a lot with it.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I was like, okay, Daniel. Also, Ariana Grande just named you one of her favorite drag queen. Like, really quickly burst out of her mouth. Not just like one of like a E.Bi oddly, oh wait, this is a hard question. How did you feel about that? Because that's kind of crazy. Okay. Like off of like the bragging like, duh. No, I was honestly pretty shocked because I know she's a weirdo. Like I know because her and Willow have also talked a little bit and she like likes Willow's weird selfie.
Starting point is 00:04:23 She takes that her face is all like blurred out. And she's like, ketamine. See, Glinda is no longer anymore. We're wrapping up the wicked, so Arianka is back. And she's like, I-Riyanka? Yeah, that's what I call her. Like, Arianka is the one that loves Evianca. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I think she's just, like, the girl who, like, would be doing what I do. Like, she would be doing all the weird shit if it wasn't so bad for her vocal rest. Yeah, probably, probably, probably. And she probably has at one point, you know, like, she, She's had a long career. She really has. She has a long career. For being so youthful.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Absolutely. But she's just that girl. Question. Are you two single dating? Who's to say? Well, you're fucking married, so you hush. I'm married and still fucking. I love that for you.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And I am single. It's open. Yeah, exactly. And you had your first date with your now partner right before season 11 aired? Yeah, it was like a week before he was dating some other. Queen in Denver who I had booked in shows and was like
Starting point is 00:05:29 mm-mm, girl. You and Ariana Grande have a lot in comics. Stealing. Listen, girl, when I see something that I know I'm going to treat so much better
Starting point is 00:05:40 than everyone else in our world. No shit. I know he's going to worship me because the internet's going to be so mean about how he looks versus I look. Did you think that going in that the internet was going to be?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Hell yes. Well, I mean, I wasn't exactly a killer on season 11. I, like, looked like a full-on naked mole rat cancer patient. Like, I was going and starting fights with people. That's not, like, what I look for in a sexy partner. But honestly, it was kind of hot to see, like, your season, I love, that was one of the things I love. Like, you knew you were going, you were there to win.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yes. And, like, I think you were just very honest about everyone needing to step their pussy. I mean, what was crazy is I didn't even think I was going to win. I was just so drastically disappointed in everyone that my judgmental bitch came out. She's like, really, I'm trash and you brought this? I mean, that is funny because there was that one moment
Starting point is 00:06:31 with Silky where you were like, they're telling you to step your pussy up and Silky's like, I don't think you're listening to me. It's like, I don't think you're listening to me. Like, going back to the last resort isn't necessarily the answer, but you do you, girl.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Which is the shocking thing that Evie always talks about that season is like, Silky was the girl that everyone kind of knew would have won that season. And that's wild to me because after she picked a Miley Cyrus and threw it around like a rag doll, I just did not see it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I loved her and her Meet the Queens. But when that all kind of happened, that's when it kind of went like, but I still love her, for sure. I mean, that's why it was wild to watch episode one go down. It's literally we spent the whole season being like, oh, God, Silky's going to win. And Silky was walking around the workroom being like,
Starting point is 00:07:19 America's going to love me, bitches. RuPaul loves me. Every judge who came through did love her So we were all like Fuck this fucking shit You're never gonna send her home for looking bad ever Not once But then like the first episode aired
Starting point is 00:07:34 And I think what was really shocking for me Was the fact that all of these shady bitches Were so quiet in the work room Like that was half of what I was getting In fights over was being like I know you girls Are talking shit in the confessionals Why can't you say it out here? Just say it out that's television
Starting point is 00:07:53 That's reality television. You've got to give some drama in the workroom. Would you ever do reality TV? I don't know. Like, it's their specific kind of show. I think I would do traitors. I love traitors. And I love when everyone's like, how dare you say I'm a traitor?
Starting point is 00:08:11 I couldn't have. And it's like, well, that's the name of the game, you could be one. See, for me, that show, I would do traitors. I think Evie should actually do traitors, but I want to do Big Brother. I'm a big brother girlie. I'm so down for living in a house for 90 days. Yes. I didn't know there was a live feed.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh, I'm watching these girls. It's wild. I'm watching them sleep. I am watching them hump each other. I am doing all of the things necessary to understand everyone's gameplay. And a lot of the times the live feeds, it actually tells the true story because producers are only going to show what they want. And the current winner, Ashley, you didn't know how much of a game.
Starting point is 00:08:51 player she was unless you watch the live feeds. But there's so much work. I mean, true. I got to watch the episodes and then I got to watch a live feed. If you're not watching the live feed, you're only getting a quarter of the story. Because we're watching them all day long. That's
Starting point is 00:09:07 nuts. That's so wild. And Ryan, you moved here with an ex. Oh, my God. Oh, you knew my business. That's crazy. My assistant Lindsay does the research. Yes. I think like every game moves somewhere with an ice. Was our bold enough to ever go somewhere on art?
Starting point is 00:09:23 We're like, yeah, I want to chase my dreams. To be honest. With you. He was paying for everything. So, yes, I did. Oh, girl. He flew you out. It was him and my best friend at the time, who I'm no longer friends with.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But it's, yeah, I moved out here 10 years ago, and I probably should not have moved out here with him. Red flags everywhere. I'm historically known for dating awful men. What were the red flags? Oh, I don't know, like being cheated on seven times. Seven. With, you know, like specifically. Like with the same person?
Starting point is 00:09:54 No, with different people. And to be honest, the first red flag was I was his first boy. Like, he came out because of me. Oh. And so, like, I also kind of, like, made in my mind like, oh, of course he cheated on me the first time because he's a new gay. Let him go get, like, suck his dick. Like, oh, you know, like, let him do some things. Until it kept happening.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And then it kept happening. And I was just like, um, and then we owned a dog together. and I ended up getting Coco and the divorce. Whoa. And so, yeah, it's a whole thing. So you're a closed relationship, girlie? No, I've only done monogamy. Like, I was with him for five years.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Okay. But I am so open. My thing is, if he would have actually told me he wanted to see other people or, like, explore sexually with other people, if he was, like, honest about it. I would have been so down. I would have been like, actually, there are three, four dudes that I'm looking at that I would love to fuck.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Like that I was just pushing off because I don't. I thought we were trying this shit for real deal. Ding, ding, ding. And so I was like, I wish he would have actually been more honest with me, but I also know at that time, especially coming from the South and being a southern gay. Like, there's a replication of heteronormitivity that happens in queer relationships. And that was for sure I was a product of that and did not realize, like, girl, how deep it lies. I'm a freak.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I want to do it. I want to do it with multiple people. At the same time. So you be fucking now? Oh, for sure, fucking now. in a wonderful way. I'm not to collapse around the room. The way that I'm about to cry.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I've never received this much support in my life. Yes, you'll be stunning. Yes, I am fucking down. But I'm also dating someone. Oh. She's got it all. Yeah, I'm dating someone, and we talked about someone else I've dated on the show. Like, that's part of, like, our high keenness.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I think Evie does a really great job at, like, she's so sexually open that it only makes me also wants her to be like. I've seen your dick on Twitter. Girl, who has it? I've seen it on a Zoom. On a Zoom? On a Zoom? Our first meeting, meeting her, and I'm telling this, our first meeting, meeting her, she was getting into a bubble bath. Listen, if we're jumping in, we're jumping in the deep.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And I said, oh, this is what we've signed up for. This is what it would be sort of work. Sign me up for 11 more seasons. I love taking a meeting in a bubble bath. That's crazy to me. I'm such a corporate Barbie low key where I'm like, I was, I had to wrap. my head around it, but then Evie says something brilliant where she's like, if you know you're getting Evie oddly, you know you're also going to see some part of my body.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And I'm like, actually, you're so right. And why would we need to be uncomfortable about that? Because the show is us talking about our lives and getting to know other people's lives. Well, that plus there also is this really classy thing that nobody ever wants to acknowledge about working from the bathtub. I'm an art history nerd. There's this painting called The Death of Marat because some dude named Marat was stabbed while he was in his bathtub working
Starting point is 00:12:50 and he had to like live his whole life in his bathtub because he was so sick so I love to pretend that I'm him sometimes and just be like answering my emails from the bath being like where's my wench with more water I mean drag us it's now quite ablest of me bringing up you were in a bathtub working
Starting point is 00:13:07 I'm so sorry get her get her that was able to drag me that was abelist you're not inclusive you're not an ally get her! The fact that I was just being supportive five seconds ago now, look at how the internet works. That's how quickly we turn on you.
Starting point is 00:13:24 That's true. Kieran, why won't you date me? Evie, do you have rules for being open with your partner or no? I mean, I feel like I don't like the word rules because I don't like rules. But we do have, like, lots of communication. I was actually, I can't remember what trick I was talking to about this. That's pretty bad. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:44 No, there's, like, different types of openness. and I feel like when we started dating, our big thing was like, I just want to appreciate you for like whatever I get with you. Like in these little moments we get to see and we're just not going to talk about the other guys. And then like the more the more we grew into each other's lives, the more that COVID happened and forced us to live with each other within a year of dating, which is something that I think is pretty fucking radical for any person to be doing. That's crazy. Actually, I don't see how y'all are still together and doing it.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I mean, because he was, he was just, like, he was and is the best person, I know, and I hate saying some shit like that, but legitimately, anybody who knows me and knows my husband is so funny how they go from being like, oh, my God, I'm hanging out with Evie Audley and her husband, to being like, oh, Doug, you should invite Evie along sometime to, like, one of these rave orgies we're going to 24-7. She's totally gatekeeping Doug for me, because she keeps telling me that Doug one, to me and like loves my voice when historically no one does. And I'm just like...
Starting point is 00:14:50 You mean historically nobody likes your voice? Girl, just re-hiking comments. Like, go there. People have, like, said my voice is just a mixture of things. They're listening, aren't they? I know, and I love it. Girl, the voice of the voice. I can be in a car and someone will be like, I've heard your voice
Starting point is 00:15:07 somewhere. And I'll be like, work. Thank you. I feel like that's so cool because who else can say that but like commercial jingle people. Yeah, true. Yeah, that's true. But I say all that to say is, like, I want to meet Doug and potentially sleep with him. I mean, go throw it down.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Since they're open. Yeah. Yeah, why not? Get in there. Make it a little messy. Honestly, I'm trying to, I'm trying to hoar him out a little bit more. I'm writing a rap about it, too. Not you whoring out your twink man.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Do you have other partners? Are you like, what is that, polyamorous? Or you just open? You be fucking and you say, Thank you, Chuck, please. Okay, it's like not even. It's a mix of both where I know I'm not responsible enough to like juggle one relationship. Like I still don't love me and yet I'm still tricking all these other people to love me, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:00 I hacked I hacked Rupal's system and now it's now it's mine. But I do just love I love people. I love talking to people. I love talking to strangers. I love hearing their stories. I love making fun of people to their faces right after you nutted in them. So are you like a laugh for a during set? Like, do you laugh?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Like, do you like have little jokes? Because I like to do that. What's one of the, I'm so sorry. I need to know, after you nut, what's one of the wildest things you've said to somebody? Great question. Oh, you're asking me the wildest things I've said. I don't remember what I say. I'm hyped up on emotions.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I've got post nut clarity. Thoughts are just coming out like I dropped a tap of acid, you know? But I've had so many wild things said to me, like in that post nut clarity, like people being like, oh, there was this one guy who like while I was inside of him still was like, oh my God, jinks monsoon wasn't lying. I was like trying to reach around and shut his mouth. Like no, no. And he was like, yes, I've become my mother. I came still. But I came and I cried.
Starting point is 00:17:12 You know? You got to get it done. Ryan, I don't know how we move on from that. What's the wildest thing that has been said to you or the wildest thing you've said after none? Oh, great question. I don't even know. Like, I do love a verbal session.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I think if anyone is not having nonverbal sex, please. Well, that's just strange. No, but there's some people that don't like it. Do you sometimes you're dead silent? You don't say anything? Okay, so that's the thing is my job is to talk and relate to people like I love I love that shit and I'm the kind of person who will stick their foot in their mouth if I get the chance so like during sex I don't want to play another character all I can
Starting point is 00:17:54 give you is like oh fuck oh yeah oh and if I if I say much more than that then it's just gonna break the character because I'm gonna be like oh I'm trying to fuck slay queen I'm like I need a little bit like I need you to call me you know some what do you want to call me what do you want to be called? I love slut. I love... sexy names. Slut. Yes. I mean, work. Look how cute I am. I'm a cute little slut.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I'm a little slut. Just a little one. I also know that it's quite controversial. Like, people don't like calling, like, an ass a pussy, but I do love it. I don't think that's a thing anymore. I think I think people hate it. People used to hate it. I know that because I used to hate it. But then we all just got grosser as a Like, Cardi B released Wop and then all of us were like, whatever. I got this wet ass pussy. And anything can be a pussy. Anything can be.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yes, and we dessert. Wait, what else do you like being called, slut? What about whore? I do like whore. Come slut. Oh, I do like. Come dumpster. Okay, I haven't quite experienced that one.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Oh, she's like, those are on the green board. I'm open. I don't hate it, especially if we're going multiple rounds. You know, if I'm already, if it's already in there, yeah, load it up. Loaded up, load it up. Wow. Barry, put that on my tombstone. Load it up.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Loaded up. Ryan Mitchell, load it up. Who have I? We're learning way too much about me. I don't know. What is one of the wildest dates either of you have been on? Oh. I feel like you probably do more legit dating than I do.
Starting point is 00:19:37 You just be fuck. Yeah. Well, I mean, all of my fuchs are like, dates but they are you know they're like a boyfriend for a couple of hours i love that mentality for a couple of hours you're mine and then goodbye yeah and the world takes us where we go because really that's what every relationship is it's just even if you're with the one or whatever they're just like a long-term short-term relationship you're like yeah you're the one until one of us dies absolutely and i'm not romeo and julietting and like i will go on
Starting point is 00:20:10 I will, you are Celine Dion, your heart will go on. That's what you're doing. It will go on. Ryan, wildest date. I feel like my recent dates have been like, I've experienced a date with a love bomber, which is awful. He was a Sagittarius, like all the way.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And what does that mean? I'm not like fully into the signs, so... He's just awful, period, you know? I'm so sorry to my fellow. And my fellow, like, but we went to, I remember we were just going to, like, hang out. We, like, matched on Bumble and, which, red flag. And, um... I like Bumble.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm supposed to. Red flag. Major red flag. And I was, like, somehow I was, like, telling him, it was like, what do you like to do? And I was like, oh, you know, I like to, like, go to dinner, like, go to art museums, theater. And I was like, I also like, I also love going to, like, aquariums, even though problemat. That's my problematic hate. take, I just, I have a, like, I have an emotional tie to aquariums, because that's what
Starting point is 00:21:13 me and my mom used to do as a kid. Oh, because we love to see fish in prison. Period. I know it's so awful, but I'm supporting and you're like, oh, you like to see fish in prison. I'm supporting. I'm like being a puffer of fish. I know that about myself. You want to see Shamu, lock up.
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's what you like. That's romance. But he was like, okay, well, then let's go for our first date to the aquarium. And it was just like so wrapped up in, like, like, so wrapped up in, like, that's what you like. like motion and I felt like honestly it felt kind of like a movie and it kept happening every time we hung out this is NASA Bay and this is who NASA Bay he's he won't I thought you said Massa I don't know it down every time this is Massa Bay I'm not Bob the drag queen I like I like I like Bob the drug queen I do like Bob too I love Bob he's actually my number
Starting point is 00:22:05 one I just love I just love to stir her pot because I know she's going to get race bait her for I know, and it sucks. It's so unfair. I know, but the more heat she takes, the less heat I take for dating a white guy. You know? I've only ever dated. That's funny. Just put it over there.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Don't look over here. Look at Bob the Drag Queen. Look at that at all. But no, he was just like a serial love bomber, and, like, he just kept playing with my heart, and I was just like, you know what? I can't do it anymore. That's, it's not even, like, crazy as in, like,
Starting point is 00:22:37 a thing happened. No, no, it was just crazy for you. They need to be like, what is all of this? It was awful. Why are you asking me my deep secrets and then making them come to fruition? Absolutely, absolutely. And he made it seem like he was like really ready for a thing
Starting point is 00:22:51 and he just wasn't. Wasn't? Okay. Just wasn't. See, that is why, that's like exactly how I date my boyfriends for like a day, hour, a week, whatever. See? But the thing is I'm very open up front.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I'm like, hey, so I have ADHD and I'm famous. so this is like I'm gonna give you all the love I can right now because we're all gonna die someday and I like like give him a kiss and they're like oh I love this now that's a true terror I love this I do not what I would
Starting point is 00:23:22 well I don't know I don't know if that's a terrorist being super up front this is exactly what you're gonna get also the big thing the big thing is like I I just spent so long feeling like there was no chance for me to be loved like I used to be a hardcore listener of why won't you date me being like
Starting point is 00:23:37 Say! We all hate me. Save! But it is wild when you do find somebody who's like, no, no, I get you, I understand you. Well, and it allowed me to treat myself with a little more respect and be like, no, no, you deserve love. And I'm so good at, like, loving myself now. I want to help other people love themselves. See, I'm on that journey right now with the guy that I'm currently dating.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Because I have realized that I actually get the it when someone. is really nice to me. Most people do. And it's, it's, it's been something I've been working through because I like my, I like some energy with banter. I like us kind of like coming for each other in a little bit of way, and literally and figuratively, and it's so interesting where I was like, okay, I'm going to let you know in real time when I'm getting the ick if you've done something.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And like, he's actually very open to it and like, it also helps me like go at this thing slow, like we're going and we're slowing it down and taking our time. I think that's nice. I, with my, the nice man in my life, I've taken, we were moving at a glacial pace, and that's good for both of us. On our second date, I've said this before, but he was like, it's nice to see you again. And I said, what do you mean by that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So, like, he was just genuinely like, I like you. It's nice to see you again. And I was like, hmm. How long has it been? What does that mean? It's been a little over a year and a half. Work? So, wait, y'all are not like, wait for anything?
Starting point is 00:25:06 girlfriend, our boyfriend and partner. No, he's my boyfriend, but I'm almost 72 years old and it feels insane to be like, my boyfriend. What? So I just say the nice man in my life. I mean, I love the idea. I'm so sad that I got married and have a husband now. I mean, not so
Starting point is 00:25:25 sad. I just say what? Health insurance is fierce. And you guys got married for health insurance. I mean, it wasn't. Love, but also the cherry on top. Yeah, yeah. Cherry on top was health insurance. and the cake was so that my grandma would stop being like, who's that guy?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Who is that? Who? Oh, husband now. But, like, legit, I do have this little kinky fantasy in my head where I'm like, oh, yeah, I just want to be like a 50-year-old with a really sloppy puss and a hot boyfriend who also has a really sloppy pussy. I mean, he's your husband, but he can also just be whatever you want him to be. Literally.
Starting point is 00:26:06 He could be your boyfriend. with a sloppy pus. Exactly. And what do you mean by sloppy poohs? Okay, I'm... Gaping? Yeah, how sloppy do we want to do? I like a little bit of gape.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Honestly, I'm just here for, like, moisture. I was telling somebody... I'm just here for moisture. We're still in a drought. Yeah. We're here for moisture. I'm trying to fix the childhood drought I had to face, okay? Like, I was telling somebody in a public setting
Starting point is 00:26:35 last night that, like, I think the reason I really like being inside somebody is it reminds me of being in the womb, you know? You remember that? Ryan and I both went, hmm. Well, I wish I remembered.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I don't remember it, but I assume it's got to be the same reason. I love taking like a long hot bath the reason why I will instantly fuck anyone who has a hot tub. Like if you whip a hot tub out on me, I will blow your dick in it and get all sorts of pink eye.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And you got the pink eye, you got the preemptive pink eye. So where were you before you got here? In a hot tub. Sucking dick in a hot tub. And it got the irises. Real quick, we got to take a break. You know we talk about dating disasters all this.
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Starting point is 00:30:07 That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com slash date me to get free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince.com slash date me. We're back. I love that. You gotta just keep it silly and fun. So, Ryan, do you want to be in a relationship? Like, is that something you want?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Or are you just having fun hoeing around? Okay. So, quote from my best friend recently was, I think you hate being happy. Oh. And, like, they said, it didn't have really, like, no, they were so real when they meant that shit. And it's not that I hate being happy. It's just I'm such a pessimist. I'm not even sure if it's real and I don't want to accept if it is.
Starting point is 00:30:55 is real because then I'm letting all these guards down and then it's like I'm in it because I know me once I'm in a relationship bitch I am in it that's the reason why I stayed in a toxic relationship for five years and so it's like as I'm getting older I do want a partner I just want to make sure it's for real like they not only have their shit together but they're also accepting all of my sloppy pussy stuff oh that's so real it is very real and evy it feels like you don't have a guard up at all. I learned I still do actually. That's the crazy part is there's
Starting point is 00:31:32 there's still so much of a guard that's like been built up after thinking you were too weird or to this or to whatever that and like after I came out as gay and I was still too many of too many different things. I was like oh fuck
Starting point is 00:31:47 this and that guard got so tall until people started telling me how much they wanted to fuck my dad. And I realized I'm his child. Can I just say? You say a lot of sentences where I'm like, yes, yeah, wait, what? This is what it means to be working with her every single week.
Starting point is 00:32:08 So you you realize you were fuckable because people wanted to fuck your dad? Which honestly, she's making points. Her dad is fine. Yes, because he was at the finale and RuPaul even was like, oh, yes. Right? Yeah, well, yeah, like right there.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And you come from a history of like, Like Black, like Black Kings? Like, hot. Your grandparents started the Black Panthers in Denver. Yeah. Which is fucking cool. It's so cool. Like, hearing the stories about all the crazy shit my, my granddad would be doing
Starting point is 00:32:39 while my dad and his brother were just trying to live their lives, like, at a football game. And then their dad goes to Dale from whipping out a gun and be like, fuck these crackers. Oh, my God. Watch out Paul Thomas Anderson's ready to write a movie about it. He's so ready He's listening right now And he's like Oh, and Domingo can play your dad
Starting point is 00:33:02 Listen, he could too And I would be fucking No, like legit Realizing that My dad is such a similar person to me. I've always identified with my mom Who grew up being like, oh, I'm too quirky She was always the never had been kiss story
Starting point is 00:33:21 Even though I always thought she was like the most beautiful person in the world if she would just take off her glasses and pull out her ponytail. Oh, very Anne Hathaway and Princess Diaries. Or she's all that. Yes. Clean up that paint.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Take those overalls off. Yes. She was always pretty. She just needed to take her glasses. You just need to be blind, bitch. But like, I always felt like that. That was my story that I grabbed from my mom.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And it wasn't until I got older. And I've always known my dad was hot. Everybody has always told me, I've always had eyes of my own. Like, so I've always known he was hot, but it wasn't until I got older. You can appreciate the attractiveness of a parent. You're making a face. Well, you can't appreciate. You could be like, my parent is hot.
Starting point is 00:34:07 My dad was hot, I guess. Yeah, I just wouldn't say hot. Hot is the word that, hot is the most PG-13. Calling your parent hot is just. I don't know. My dad was hot. I saw an old picture of him at my grandmother's house on the wall, and I said, who the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:34:21 is that? And they were like, your dad. And I was like, ooh. What's the saying? That's what I'm saying. I just, I don't know. The language, hot is just, you say that,
Starting point is 00:34:30 but after you've been on enough internet and seeing what they've said about your parents, okay, like, hot is the most PG-13 thing. Don't look at my tweets because I probably said some things about your daddy, too.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Oh, right? Can I'm not say, sis. Yeah, but I learned that he was, he was always as insecure and weird and this and that as me and probably as gay. if he'd just let himself be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Go damn it. But, like, it was realizing that he had all of that, that, like, there still is this chillness about him. And I realized that I just have to, like, give myself more credit. I have to suck the dicks that want me when they want me. And eventually, other dicks will be gravitating towards that energy of, like, damn, look at that bitch just going to town. And that's something I had to learn because...
Starting point is 00:35:19 I would love for someone in the corner Just being like, oh, look at that bitch going to town Maybe they'll gobble me up too That was him last night Honestly, it's been there before Silky, one of her first times hanging out off of our season She was like at a sex party with me in Denver Just like watching me go into town being like
Starting point is 00:35:41 That's my sister I love the support I do too actually We need more support like that We do But that is something that I feel like I've had to learn because being in like queer spaces, especially as someone who occupies like being like a fat person in a space, it really does like, it can't impact what you think you are and
Starting point is 00:35:59 who you think you are. And it took me a very long time to be like, okay, this person isn't some weird like fat chaser and just only wants me because of my curves and is actually wanting me for me. And I deserve that thing. Like I deserve the attention of someone that really wants That is a hard thing to navigate as a fat person being like, well, do you like my body? Do you just like my body? Like, what do you actually like about me? And then taking up space unintentionally is a weird thing where people turn and look at you when you walk in the room and it's like, well, because I'm bigger than everybody in this room. Literally. And so do you think you fully embraced that now? I think it's a journey for me, right? Because I'm not going to allow you. I think
Starting point is 00:36:43 I do carry myself in a confidence, right? I love style. It's the way that I've used kind of my style as sort of like a protest in some ways of being like, you think you know what fat people are supposed to look like in a room. Bitch, I'm going to come dress down where you have no, you have to give me a compliment. And she is always the most dressed out too. I mean, this look, when you walked in, I was like, I love this. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Big Bud Press. Oh, shout out to them. But it is one of those things where it's like I most definitely believe now but even with the guy that I'm dating now I remember when we were like in it having sex and I just was like you know I appreciate you for not like
Starting point is 00:37:25 making like making me feel weird about it was like mid-thrust It was. It actually was like I love I'm that girl I love us I don't do talk I like talk I and we've like that kind of was like our thing where we end up like going off and on hooking up and like talking and it just like creates like this safety.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And I was just like, I really appreciate the way that you're like handling my body right now because it's important. And I don't know what's telling me to tell you this, but I need you to know that the last guy I fucked was so fucking weird and made me feel gross. It's so sad, though, because there's always going to be this gamble. And the further you are away from whatever you perceive as being the passable normal that everybody is into, like the more barriers you do hold. on yourself
Starting point is 00:38:13 I've like like whether it's about like how big you are how feminine I remember getting so insecure when I found out that my husband like somehow just kept fucking other drag queens I was like oh so you only like me because my
Starting point is 00:38:29 job is to dress up like a lady and you can tell that underneath and I'm like well he's not trying to fetishize me he's not like going out on Grindr being like yes bitch Have you fucked your husband in drag? Great question. Oh my God, I need to know.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I think we fucked once while I was in drag and it was like a late night drunk thing. And he always says he like rolled over in the morning and almost had a heart attack. He was like, what the fuck? Who's this? Yeah, like me with all my smeared assing. Like morning breath of being like morning come breath.
Starting point is 00:39:09 being like, you and your pussycat wig. Oh, girl, the wig's the first thing that come off. That's all my Lord. Oh, my God. I always wonder, though, especially with drag queens and, like, drag, like, like, trace chasers, I guess. Like, do you, do you care someone knows that you're, like, a queen or, like, they're actually fucking you? Yeah, what's a turn off? Is it a turn off when someone's just like, oh, I'm your biggest fan.
Starting point is 00:39:34 You fuck me now? I mean, I wouldn't say the biggest turnoff, but it's probably. not the biggest turn on to be like, yeah, you look up to me in a weird idealistic way. I'm so hard, I'm gonna wreck that piss. It's not, I like, I don't mind it. It's about this energy that
Starting point is 00:39:53 comes with it. Like, if you can, one of the reasons I like sex is it breaks down all of these barriers and we're forced to be so vulnerable with somebody. So, like, if we're able to get to the sexual part without you making some,
Starting point is 00:40:09 reality TV joke at me then we're probably going to be chill and it's only like a quarter of the guys who even after that point will do something else that will give me the ick like after we fuck they'll be like hey I know who you are and I'll be like uh oh this is a 50-50 it could go
Starting point is 00:40:25 either way and they're either the guys who are like I know who are just wanted to say big fan cool and I'm like we're going to fuck again or they're the people who are like and Bianca del Rio said and oh here's that picture I have with Trixie and Like, yes, Queen Rupal.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I fucked a guy like that last week, and I'm still scarred. He sent me a picture of the first time. I love it. It's fresh. Not last week. It's fresh in your soul. Oh, yeah. He sent me a picture the first time we met, and I was like, you're so hot.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Why did you, like, he's still hot in the picture, but like. That's jarring. He just ruined you. That's absolutely jarring. We've met before. I have a picture. Now we fucked, and now I'm reminding you of the first. time we, ooh.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Wait, have that happened with you, though? Like, I mean, I usually fuck straight men, and they like to tell me, they've never heard of me. Oh, work. Work. Yeah. Just to keep you humble. Just to bring me down a couple of heads.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They're like, no, I'm not going to tell her. I just saw her looking fabulous at the Emmys. Yeah, I once dated. No, we hooked up. We didn't date. But he was like, I don't know who you are. And I was like, okay. And he's like, but I've seen you on Conan.
Starting point is 00:41:39 like, okay. And he's like, and I know you have a podcast. And I was like, so you know me. It sounds like you're like familiar. I'm so sorry you have to date straight men. I know. That's, that sounds. What's your favorite thing about dating straight men though? Like imagine dating one of us because it's easy to shit on straight. It is so easy. It's very easy to shit on a straight man. But like what is like a good thing that you're like, ooh, yeah, I love that. Because I'm constantly like, why would a man be there? Like I'm very will be overcoded when it comes to that. I don't want a man in my head. I don't want a man in my head. Please, like, uh-uh, why? I think the best thing about dating a straight man is sometimes the toxic masculinity. Where they're like, I have to open the door for you. I have to, you know, pay for this. Or like, I'm going to do this thing for you
Starting point is 00:42:27 that is like classically, you know, the man does it. That's why I date bisexual guys too. Oh, there you go. They're also very serious. Because sometimes they're like, sometimes the toxic part is not so bad. You're like, oh, no, God, I'm such a strong woman though with that door. I feel like a little lady. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And I have on many occasions been like, can you fix this for me? I can fix it. I have a toolbox. I can do it. I know how to use a drill. But, you know, sometimes I'll be like, do this. And then they're like, they feel real good. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Because men used to go to war and they should. Nah. Like, please, let's bring that. back. I mean, kind of. Yeah, bring wars back.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Our president's like, I'm on it. I'm ready. After this nap in the Oval Office, I'll get on it. Droopy face and off. But yeah, send him to war. What would I do in a war?
Starting point is 00:43:25 I don't know. I break a nail and I'm like, well, I'm down for the count. I'm going to be useless in a war. I'm giving post-war massages. See, I was going to say I'm only good for like chemical warfare. Like, send me in there,
Starting point is 00:43:40 like, fresh out of an orgy. Throw me into another orgy. Tell me, I, there's no deal. You're citing just a different war. Throw me into the orgy, and it's like, I don't know if World War II had an order. That's like, that's actually the war
Starting point is 00:43:56 I would prefer. The world would be a better place. Whoever wins that one. I've never been to a sex party. Ryan, have you? Oh, I totally have gone up. Well, okay. I know Evie has. I've never been to a... Licking them teeth. I've never been to a sex party unless you count slammers. What slammers?
Starting point is 00:44:13 You don't know what slammers is? It sounds very sex party, girl. Okay, so Slammers is a sex club out here that is actually like, it's east side, so it kind of is a little bit grungy and it has more of like a bare fear. Like if precinct had like dark rooms everywhere, it would be that. And it was actually the first time moving out here, I found out that sex clubs were actually a thing. Oh, really? Yeah, I never heard. I mean, coming from Nashville, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'm from the bus. Bible Belt. You know, like, there's, I just never imagined that. And so when I found that out and I went, oh my God, I have frequent tons. Oh, my God. I actually, I've had an experience where I didn't even get to go in because I saw a guy that was just so fine. I was about to go in. I literally rolled down my window and I was like, how are you doing? And he was about to leave. And he was like, why are you just sitting your car? I was like, I was about to go in, but now I'm looking for you. And then we ended up crazy thing. This is the craziest thing I've ever actually done. And I can't believe I'm saying this publicly.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I followed him to his hotel and gave him the best head of my life. Why can't you believe you're saying that I guess? Because it was a complete stranger. I could have died that night. I was actually driving. I was driving, following him, being like, if I get murdered, who is going to help? Wait, I'm sorry. Is this man walking?
Starting point is 00:45:28 No, he was in his car and I was behind him. Because he was like, follow me. I'm like five minutes away. It was actually like 10. And I just was like, just kept thinking. I was like, I am horny. but is it worth potential death? It's always.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Always. And it was. I think it's actually a part of like what makes sex really hot is you think about like spiders and shit. The men are like crawling out. Anytime you've- Spiders, but no, like legit, even spiders. Any spider you've seen in your home usually is just a horny dude being like, I got to go and got to find some black widow. I'm like they're crawling around looking for it.
Starting point is 00:46:02 They get killed if they don't get sex. They get killed and eaten if they do get sex. It's the danger that makes you feel alive. We're all spiders. We're all little spiders. My husband and I can't have sex without like knives at each other's throats anymore. Is this real? No, I wish.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And also, did you just describe the plot of like Charlotte's Web? That's what that children's book was about. I was like, I actually am the little piggy. Actually, I am the little piggy. It's just iconic. I think I am. I think I'm the little picky, and I would prefer. And I'm the spider teaching you how to read.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yes, a bitch named Charlotte always gives cut. Maybe that's what Kiss of the Spider Woman's about. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it either, and I do want to see it, because I'm trying not to, like, let reviews, like, from critics tell me what I need to see. Yes. Like, fuck off. That's, if we actually, like, believed a critic, we wouldn't have the iconicness of All's Fair and Ryan Murphy. I'm like, I'm just saying, y'all will not make me hate it.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's an awful show. But if you know, if you're going into it, it's awful, you know that. If you know that Ryan Murphy is the white Tyler Perry, then what? Oh, that's very, very, real. I never saw him that way because I never saw his Medea. Yeah. Like, absolutely. Where is his Medea?
Starting point is 00:47:25 Um, wasn't it like in Niptuk playing some of transphobic character, baby? I love that you brought up Niptuk. Niptuk is one of my favorite shows. It was more. is out of control. There were storylines where I'd be sitting there being like,
Starting point is 00:47:40 what? Literally. He's always been on one. Coming back next week. So why are we shocked that he gave Kim Kardashian and made this show for her? It's like, just watch it,
Starting point is 00:47:50 live for it. I do like the clips where they show Kim's reaction shots because I'm like, this is shady. Because she'll be like, frozen. Just frozen at time.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And I'm like, why did we do that? And then you have like Sarah Paulson and Glenn Close and these two dash. I'm doing the most. I need 70,000 more seasons, just like Grey's Anatomy. I'm watching that to the Will's Falls off. I can't wait to get into it. I've been waiting.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Have you watched it, Evie it, Evie it, TV, please. Oh, no, no, no, no. I watch TV. It's just I watch TV when somebody else puts it on. That's real. Otherwise, like, I'm too distracted. I'm, like, writing a rap. I'm thinking about answering an email someday.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I'm actually probably on a slut app, avoiding cleaning my room. Sniffy's. It's just funny that you said thinking about writing an email. That's the real issue. I'm constantly like, I should write that email. I should get back to that.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I don't know if I'm going to do that today. On a show with her has made me really realize like I am actually so type A and I didn't think that I was originally. But like, you're a type B guy. Yes. When you meet a type B person, you're like, whoa. I didn't know my unstructured life actually
Starting point is 00:49:06 had a little bit of the structure. I thought I was a little type-beat. Maybe I do have it together. But knowing that Evie doesn't even know what our calendar is sometimes, I'd be like, how? I look at that, like, maybe five, like, every day. I look at it every day, too. That's how I know what day I'm in right now.
Starting point is 00:49:23 EVE, I'm with you on that. I never know what I'm doing until the day before. Or, because Mars will send me a nice little email to be like, are recording tomorrow? I'm like, ah, yes, I'm recording tomorrow. Well, because the is just, like, so up in the air. Life is so chaotic. Like, every especially every day during a Trump presidency is like a year.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Truly, there's something new every goddamn day. So it's like, girl, I got to get through the war we started today. I got to find my phone somewhere. It's ruined the view for me, everything going on. I can't even watch the view anymore. It's not fun. It's not. And that was my favorite thing to do in the morning,
Starting point is 00:49:56 besides watch Charmed reruns on T&T. I do love Charming. Wait, TNT was running Charged. Oh, girl. They've been running Charm since I was 12. What? That's how I was sneaking and watching it. Because my mom, anytime she caught me with any sort of witchcraft in a very religious home,
Starting point is 00:50:11 she was like, oh, I rebuke thee. And so I would watch Charmed on, like, volume level three and read the captions and fall in love with Col and Phoebe's, like, toxic relationship. They actually raised me. They're the reason why I was in so many toxic relationships before that. Wow. You heard it here. Don't watch Charmed. No, you did.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Witchcraft, bad toxicity. I moved to the area I live in because Charmed House is right up the street. Wasn't T&T? Also, the Janelle that, like, had, like, the dog who has the voice, like, mine and smokes a cigar, and they had Pam Anderson's, like, Striporella cartoon. Am I, am I making this up? Is that another, like, cartoon that when I don't swim? No, no.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I'm talking about, like, T&T, like, explosions and movies. Well, wait, I feel like Pam Anderson's show. Are you talking about VIP? No, no, there was this, like, cartoon she had in the early 2000s called, like, Stripperella. And it was an adult animation about, I guess, some girl who was a stripper. You're right. It was Stan Lee's stripperella. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Stan Lee. I know because I was... Oh, why you ate that? She's Marvel? Is this Marvel? He was an adult animated superhero comedy television series, created by Stan Lee for Spike TV. Okay, Spike TV. TV for men.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Oh, that's right. Oh, my God. Remember when channels had a specific skew? Like, Spike was TV for men. USA was like, characters welcome. No. Maybe it was TBS? No. USA, characters welcome.
Starting point is 00:51:43 TBS. Very funny. Yes, yeah. MTV, music TV. Liars. They were lying about that for a decade. I didn't understand. Was it Nick at night its own channel or was that just the Nickelodeon?
Starting point is 00:51:56 It was Nickelodeon, but at night it became Nick at night and it did reruns. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, which I would watch. That's how I got familiar with, like. Like all the classics, like Cosby Show, the, oh my God, three, the, what's the three. Three's company. Yes, it's a step by step. Step by step. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I always hated that. I never, I never watched Nick at night. Oh, I loved you. Because Nickelodeon, okay, so Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network are like battling forces in a child's brain, right? And Disney, don't forget Disney. No, because Disney is not battling for shit. No, I was a Disney girl.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I was a Disney girl. Yeah, but Disney is mostly live action or like duck tails. It's classics. Yeah, and Disney is Disney is Disney. They just need 24 hours. I'm talking about something that is, like, trying to get your children in the daytime, and then at nighttime is, like, here's some adult shit. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:52:42 But maybe he was trying to give kids culture? I guess that's the thing is. Like, watch the old shit, watch the wind. Because Cartoon Network had boondocks, right? Well, it has adult swim in general, and I've always been an adult swim girly because it gives very, like, 30-something burnout stoner living in their parents' basement. Like Aqua Team Hunger for. That's still my personality.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Horse Jack, Bone, Bojack, Horseman? Yes, I knew it was something. That's funny that we got there. You were like, Bones Jack, Boas Jack, Horse, Jack, Huffman, have. That's also on Netflix. Oh, because we were talking about recently, I revealed that I have never seen The Simpsons. I've only seen one episode of The Simpsons. Sussar, thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:29 And do you think the Simpsons are black? Because Marge has a text Yes, and she wears a bonnet And they said Someone in the comments says she's Creole Yeah, her name is like Bouvier Period
Starting point is 00:53:39 Which is a Creole That's not like they are black Because even a Bart or Bert Whatever his name He got a Bert, Bert, Bert, he got a high-type Is that it? Burr?
Starting point is 00:53:47 You said Bert Bert or whatever his name is Bert They got a high-tape Is it? No, I really don't And Bart stayed in trouble Oh, please I feel like in school The Black kids are police
Starting point is 00:54:00 a little bit harder. But then you were like they actually had black characters on the shit. I like darker skin tone. I think eventually, well, that's the thing is they had it. Well, they are yellow.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah, exactly. And then on a lot of kids shows, it's like the purple characters is black. That is true. So I don't know. I think. Except for Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Cleveland was just. That's straight up black. Well, I mean, after a while, I thought they had to cancel his show because he was like voiced by a white guy. They were like, oh. Cleveland was?
Starting point is 00:54:25 No, but was that big mouth? Uh-uh. It was all. The old Big mouth took that note and was like, okay, we're going to Replace her. We're going to do a little recast. And then make a joke about it in the episode.
Starting point is 00:54:37 My voice has changed a little bit. But Cleveland was a white guy. You got me to watch Big Mal. You were the main reason why I watched Big Mal. And that's where you learned about sex. Yes. As a full-grown adult, and that's how you learned about sex. You're like, I should have it.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Great. But yeah, the nice man in my life, he, I was like, I put on a bonnet. And I was like, have you ever seen one of these? And he was like, I've dated black women. Also, Marge wears a bonnet. And I was like, oh. That's schooling you on bonnet culture is crazy. And then also being like the Simpsons have a bonnet.
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Starting point is 00:57:41 mentioning us at the checkout. Terms and conditions apply. Beboop. We're back. Do either of you have any advice for single people listening right now? Yeah, don't take advice from anyone who's not single. They don't know what the fuck is up. They're not in these streets. also don't take advice from single people because we all are pretty jaded and it's the ghetto out here and we are really just trying to thrive and survive in the midst of everything else going on
Starting point is 00:58:08 so honestly continue to fuck yourself like use your hands use the toy they will never let you down that is my that's my vibe unless you meet someone in a meet queue and like you're at TJ's or something and you meet someone
Starting point is 00:58:22 traitor Joe's yes you know and like yeah but honestly we're all going through it together. And if you are in a relationship and you, unless you absolutely need to get out of it, stay in it. It's together. You don't want to deal with it. You don't want to do with it. You don't want to do it. I can take a
Starting point is 00:58:38 black guy every now and then. Oh, now hold on. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. I can take a black guy as long as I stretch beforehand. See, that was two different kinds of black guys. How are you stretching? How? With like a speculum? I honestly should.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I should. I just don't. I'm too lazy. Even as a kid, like, when I got curious about my butthole, it went straight from finger into didgeridoo. Like, I realized that was the first foreign object inside me. Oh, what's a didgerid? It is a long thing that's like,
Starting point is 00:59:13 Oh, it's like a instrument. Or did you actually put a didgeridoo inside of you? You better believe I didgerid girl. Please. And that's how I know you grew up in a creative household. You just had a didgerie do? What? But did you tell your parents?
Starting point is 00:59:38 It wasn't theirs. It was my little sisters. Did you at least tell her you put her musical instrument up your asshole? No, because I used a condom. It was all safe. I don't even know how to do all of that. Like, that's actually really great to know. I was just like a sexually forward child.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I think my mom recognized that when I kept getting caught in daycare naked with other kids. And she was like, we're going to talk about sex. So I've known about it from a pretty young age. It was always like waiting for my moment to shine. Waiting for your didgeridoo. And there just was nothing else around the house
Starting point is 01:00:11 that wasn't didgeridoo's. Well, I mean, it was fingers and then it was like, I heard my friend, she was like, yeah, I do an electric toothbrush. And I was like, that's wild. That sounds like a death trap. This didgeridoo has memories, though. She's been in my house forever.
Starting point is 01:00:27 It's still there? I hope not. Do you visit the didgeridoo? I really, I hope it's not there only because, like, all of us kids made one in the same elementary school, and I can't tell you which one has been inside me anymore. I just never have, this is my first time actually hearing the word didgeridue. I'm not even lied to you. I don't even know what it looks like.
Starting point is 01:00:48 A didgeridoo. It's like a long, right? Yeah, it's just like a long tube thing. In Australia, it's like actually made out of trees and wood and shit. In the middle of Colorado, it's made out of PVC pipe and some probably pretty toxic paint. I think the first thing you should do after this is call your sister and let her know.
Starting point is 01:01:08 She knows. No, she doesn't, and I don't want her to, okay? But she might watch this. She's just found out. She's playing her digital news. She's like, no. What? No wonder.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I just caught a hair in my tooth. I have. hated that. Whatever. We made beautiful music. Wait, Ryan, you worked for the NFL for a point, right? Yes. I had a partnership with the NFL as their first LGBTQ brand ambassador.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I curated. One thing I really love to do and historically have done is like wherever queer people have been historically told not to go, I'm like, fuck that we're going. And I somehow fell into like the world of the NFL and they were like, we really want to start reaching queer audiences in an authentic way, not in like a brand, oh, we're going to try this and it doesn't work. And so I ended up curating this dinner series called The Exchange where I bring like incredible queer leaders and tastemakers to a space to meet NFL folks to be like, okay, this is where
Starting point is 01:02:13 you get the money at, make sure like you pocket that. And then also we partner with the team and I take them to like a VIP experience of their first football game. And so just imagine a whole bunch of like black queer trans folks like on the side of a football field being like, so is he supposed to be doing that? And like, it's just, it was, it's such an incredible, like, it was such a great time. I did it for two seasons and I'm still doing some stuff and planning some things with them. But it's, it's been really cool because I never played sports.
Starting point is 01:02:44 It's not like I know what the fuck is going on. But I love just watching people and being in spaces where everyone is just like slaying and doing and performing at their highest. I find that very interesting. God, that's so funny. to imagine just a bunch of gay people who just don't know what's going on. I'm being like, yes, diva!
Starting point is 01:03:01 You did something, diva! It's literally Beyonce at the like the tennis competition where she's like, yes! I don't know what just happened, but yes! Birdie. That's how, yeah, I don't know. I don't understand sports.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I'm like, you go. Do your thing. But it's cool. It's literally, all my work has been at the center of like really important culture work and being a connector between like me and to the people that I really am fans of in their work
Starting point is 01:03:28 and allowing to amplify them. Like, that's what I love. That's why I like us having guests on our show and, like, queens on our show. And I'm like, first of all, I'm a drag race fan at the end of the day. So the fact that I get to hang out with all you crazy bitches, I am living.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I'm living. It's just so cool. And we have some really cool guests coming on. And so I'm just, it's right. It's really cool. Well, divas, we've reached the end. Oh! Is there anything you want to promote?
Starting point is 01:03:54 When do episodes of High Key come out? Monday! Okay, and where can people find it? Anywhere they get podcasts? You know, yeah, anywhere you get podcasts, YouTube, you can watch us on the Instagrams
Starting point is 01:04:09 and the TikTok. We love, we've been telling people we've been forcing people actually, leave a review. We like to know how we're doing. I mean, we're both Leo's. So, you know, giving us compliments actually really works for us in productivity.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah. We need the compliments to continue to do great. Honestly, I think that's nice to say. Give us compliments because a lot of people feel like they have to review with something negative and you don't have to. Tell you like it. You can say, even if it's just by nice.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And you know what, girl, life is about lying to all sorts of people. So just do it. See me. And please. Life is lying. Convince Evie that I could be Stevie oddly her drag child one day. I'm trying to. You want to do drag?
Starting point is 01:04:52 I want her to put me in drag just to try it. Oh, come on. I'll do, I literally will do it. I like putting people in drag. I just, like, feel bad because I'm so lazy, girl. That's funny. You're going to get what I give you. I don't take your class.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I'm like, Stevie Oddly. At your service. Stevie Adlerley is a great drag name. It really is. It really is. Livy Bohem, is this an ode to rent? Is it? It really is.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I was like, I wanted a neck tattoo, but I'm also gay. And you chose the right one, bitch. I love that. And I've been listening to rent nonstop for the last week. Yes. And I've been waiting to ask. I was like, La Viva way. It's in my head, so now it's on my neck.
Starting point is 01:05:43 It's a, I love it. Well, that's it for this episode of, well, what did you like it? You can rate it. You can subscribe. Give me five stars on Apple Podcast. Write me a review saying something nice. But also, if you want to write me something,
Starting point is 01:05:54 nasty hitting on me, you can write it to Why Won't You Date Me Podcast at gmail.com, please keep it like short. But this person writes, Hi, Nicole, I'm part of a trans couple. And my boyfriend and I would like to treat you like the nasty woman you are.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I would pound you from behind with my girl dick while you're a face deep in his bussy munching away. Nom, yum, yum, yum. Then we would switch positions while you're filating my delicious glock. Gok, gawk?
Starting point is 01:06:25 Gok? Oh, girl. Girl cock. Got it. Innovative. While he fists you with his tiny little hands full, then we say, hey, what's that delicious smell? I think our roommate's making clam chowder.
Starting point is 01:06:40 You scream, no, but you're having such a good time that you barely even mind when we get some bowls of that chowdy and eat it while we continue to fuck. You're having such a good time that you even lick chowder off my tities after I drip on them accidentally. After you've orgasmed a hundred times from our amazing sex, we finally lay down and relaxed together eating more soup. You also eat it and go, hmm, this is delicious, because now you have a positive association with clam chowder.
Starting point is 01:07:08 In hot trance sex, your clam chowda phobia is cured from Finn and Sabrina. Thank you. That was fun. Nice to me too, I'm fin. Well, let's get to the chowda, Finn. Bye. That was a HeadGum podcast. Hi, I'm Nicole Byer.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Hi, I'm Sashir Zameda. And this is the podcast, Best Friends. And we're here at HeadGum. So this is just a podcast where we just talk. Yeah. We're best friends. We talk. And then we have a segment where we answer questions and queries.
Starting point is 01:07:51 So audience members can ask questions about friendship. and we can answer them to the best of our abilities. Yes. We are professional friends. We are professional friends. Subscribe to Best Friends on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, PocketCast, or wherever you get your podcast and watch videos on YouTube. New episodes drop every Wednesday. That's the middle of a work week.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I was deeply unhelpful to you during that whole thing. You were. I'm really sorry. I felt the support. I was so, okay. I was trying to be supportive. Yeah. But I was like, my.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I don't know, reading seems pretty hard right now. It's a lot. I think you did good. Thank you so much. You're welcome.

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