Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Tossing Shade (w/ Bosco)

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Drag queen icon Bosco (Drag Race S14, All Stars S10) makes her return to toss even more shade. She shares why the secret to polished drag is having mean friends, how to filter out dumb men in your dating life, and trades stories with Nicole about their most questionable fashion eras. They also discuss facial feminization surgery (and the boy queens getting it) and why we all need some more razzle dazzle in our lives. Plus, Nicole has become a human white noise machine for the nice man in her life.See Bosco on tour! Get tickets at dragfans.com. Buy 2 tickets, get the 3rd free. The whole polycule can come!Check out Bosco's new Magic The Gathering show, Spell Slayers on YouTube.Watch this episode on our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@WhyWontYouDateMePodcastSupport this podcast by checking out our sponsors:• Warby Parker: Our listeners can buy one prescription pair and get 20% off any additional pairs at WarbyParker.com/DATEME — and using our link helps support the show. #WarbyParker #ad• Chime: Chime is not just smarter banking, it is the most rewarding way to bank. Join the millions who are already banking fee free today. Head to Chime.com/DATEME.• Squarespace: Head to squarespace.com/DATEME to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code DATEME.• Audible: Listen to Heads Will Roll: Heir Apparent, available now on Audible. Go to Audible.com/headswillrollseries to start listening today.Check out all of our sponsors and discount codes at wwydm.notion.site/sponsors.Follow:All Links: linktr.ee/whywontyoudatemeTour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenYouTube: @WhyWontYouDateMePodcastTikTok: @whywontyoudatemepod Instagram: @nicolebyerX: @nicolebyerThis is a Headgum podcast. Advertise on Why Won't You Date Me? via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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or Mina Colbyer was trying to figure out why I was so single, even though you could come on a sewing machine and tell me that's thread. My guest today is an iconic drag queen who competed on season 14 of Rupal's Drag Race and my winner of season 10 of all stars. She now hosts Spell Slayers, a new YouTube channel covering all things Magic the Gathering. And you can catch her on the marvelous Miss Gender Tour

on a 33 city tour across the United States right now. I'm so excited. Oh, my God. You can take a break, take a breath, take a break. She's back. Oh, my God. It's Bosco. Oh, my God.

You're like my LinkedIn. That was crazy. And you did that like in one breath. That was gaggy. Thank you so much. Of course. Okay. Okay.

Also winner, you're winner? I adore everything you did on All-Stars 10. Like, every performance, every look. I mean, I'm sure you've been asked, how did you pack the coffin? Because, and I'm not going to ask, because I'm not fucking basic. I figured, I don't know, you got it there, whatever. Yeah, I just kind of showed up with it and told them that it was one of my bags because I put my wigs. I put my wings in it.

I'm just like, this is one of my luggage. And they're like, what? I'm like, it's on set. What are you going to do? Not let me use it. But yeah, I digress. Truly. Everything.

Like, you looked so fabulous and I was like, where'd you get them tities? I truly DM'd you. I was like, where'd you get your teeth? Did I offend you? You told me. Okay, good. Okay, I'm like, I don't like to gatekeep that information. I've told several people where to get these tithies.

So good. Thank you. I dream of getting my tities done, but I'm scared. I'm so scared of surgery. Okay. It is kind of freaky. It's also freaky how easy it is until it's not. You need to elaborate.

I've had like really lovely experiences with surgery where like I go to bed and I wake up hotter. And that's kind of the ideal. So I'm just like, I'm not scared of it anymore. But then you see people where they go to bed and they wake up dying. Yes. And that's the kind of scary part that I'm like too comfortable with surgery now. I get how you get there. It's cool.

Because it's like, because you've had your face done, right? Oh, yeah. Yes, I went to your face reveal in, was it in West Hollywood? It was. It was, it was, I believe it's beaches now, but it was heart at the time. Yes. I was there. You looked fabulous.

I truly adore you. Thank you. I think you're so talented and wonderful. This is where you find out. I'm like, I live in your closet. You're more than welcome to it. Wait, do you live here now or do you still live in? I'm still in Seattle.

I'm really stubborn and I refuse to leave. and there's so many girls here. And I would rather kind of preside over Seattle with an iron fist, making sure that nobody else. I'm just like pulling up the ladder behind me, just making sure that nobody can get it as good as I did in Seattle. I love it.

I love it. Just put it out there. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not helping anybody. I don't like, so rising tides, raise all ships. I don't give a fuck. My ship is going to be up here. Everybody else down there.

Seattle loves me. I'm like the Princess Diana of Seattle. Don't say that Well, there's still time No When did you start dating In high school? Oh no

So I'm from Montana And I'm from a really bad place In Montana called Great Falls Montana Okay And I was like one of three openly queer people At my high school of like 2000 Like it wasn't a small high school

But like gay was not okay It's not okay Still isn't But it's like Yeah It was not ideal dating ground. So me and the other two gay people, we all knew of each other. We all got drunk and made out at least once.

And we're like, I don't think so. This is not for me. No, I'm just like, am I really gay? I didn't enjoy that. I don't know. No, it was just like sometimes gay people are sisters, you know. And that. Those are your sisters.

Those were my sisters. How old are you? We don't have to keep this in. That's okay. I'm 32. I turned 33. For whatever reason I thought you were way younger. And I don't know why.

Maybe. You'd have a facelift? Well, not really, but the face work. They kind of like go down and the gang. The lady making part? The lady fire. That comes with a facelift. Not really, but like, so they cut this part here, rip that shit down.

And then like, they take a little bit off and... That's so wild. They took out part of my skull. Really? There's a video of it. Are you squeamish? No. Okay.

Can I see? Yeah, I don't have it on my phone at this very moment, but it is in my little documentary thing. Okay. And then I can dig it up for you and send it to you at a later time. Please do. It's crazy. I'm not so... I find it all so interesting.

Surgery is just so interesting to me. It's so nar... And there's something to sew extraordinarily about the face. Because, like, that's where I live. Yes. That's where I am. And them just... Whoop.

Yeah. It's like they put you to sleep, peel down your skin. They cut a little bit of your skull out, and then they pull it back. It took a piece of my skull, reshaped it, glued it back in. Crazy. I don't even know. Like, science and the medical field is so, because, like, how did they figure out how to do that? Trial and error.

Do you think? Do you think? Do you think? I'm kidding. I love you, Brooklyn, and you look great in drag. But truly, like, how do they figure out? out implants? How do they figure out? It's so crazy. It's so crazy. We are living in a lovely time where there's been a lot of history and a lot of trial and error. Yes. So they figured out

what does and doesn't work. Yeah. And then you always let your sister go and get the work first. Is this the trick? And then you get to see like, no, I don't think that work out. I don't like no, no, no. I'm like, you're supposed to get breast. Those look like shoulder pads. I don't think so. Dying. So when did you start dating? Oh. So true. I had, I kind of like a really boring dating history. I dated, dated one other guy before my fiancé. We were together for, I don't know, for like five years, like did long distance and whatnot.

And it just fizzled because we wanted two different things out of life and went in two different directions and that's fine. And then from there, I just had like a streak of fucking men that I thought were two dumb. to bring around to my friends. So, like, we couldn't date. I'm dying. You're, like, you're hot enough to fuck, but I simply can't bring you around my friend. You can't hang. You cannot hang.

You can't do this. No, my friends will rip you apart, and I don't want to, like, subject you to that. It was, like, out of kindness. I like that. That's kind. That is kind. That's me being kind. So, yeah.

And then me and Blake just kept on hanging out and hanging out. And then eventually, me like, you know what? I'm going to ask you if you want to date. And yeah, it just worked out. But honestly, I've had two boyfriends. Blake is the most serious relationship I've ever had where, like, I've moved in with somebody. We have, like, cats together and that whole thing. How many cats?

We have two cats. Toby and Tito. They're very cute. I love and miss them a lot. But, yeah, I really didn't and have in date a lot. I think it's because I'm from a place where that was never an option growing up. That makes sense. So it just never was part of my life.

I wonder if the place where you grew up is near Billings, Montana. It's not near Billings, Montana, but it is similar to Billings, Montana, except smaller and worse. Wow. I did a college gig in Billings. I think I've told this on the podcast, but I, like, got on a very small plane, and the flight attendant was also a black woman, and she went, honey, you're going to the right place. And I was like, oh, what? And I looked at my phone, and she was like, I'm kidding. And I was like, okay.

And when I was getting off, she was like, you'll see. And then you never saw another. black person. I was like, there we go. Okay. That was just a nice warning. Just like a warning shot. Just like, girl! Be safe! Don't be out after dark!

Do you know my favorite thing is right now? What? When the boy dry queens get facial feminizing surgery? Uh-huh. How are you familiar with this? I don't know. I mean, I know what face feminization. Feminization.

Feminize. Am I having a stroke? Oh, my God. Somebody called Chapel Rowan. Get her in here. Showrun her to pronounce a feminine phenomenon. I know what the face getting ladier is. I don't think J.K. Rowland could have said that better herself.

But what about it? But what about it? Oh, there's just like a newfound phenomenon where girls who are not girls all the time are getting their face done to look more like girls. And I'm so obsessed with it. Because they are fully like doing all of the hardship for transitioning. But they're not going to transition. Yeah.

You know who's a pioneer? I feel like Phoenix. Phoenix. Oh, my. That's my baby. She had her face done to look more like Madonna. Right? That was Venus.

And Phoenix is going to get really mad that you said that. Whoopsies. Oh, yes. Venus delight. Although it's not like Phoenix is a strong. stranger to work. So, like, I think that does make sense. Oh, no. I hope Phoenix doesn't come from me.

Do you remember when she got into it with Ice Spice, like last year, was it? Wait, I vaguely remember this. I don't remember. Just a really weird little piece of trivia of the favorite dream of All Stars 10 is when she was beefing with Ice Spice. I got to say, All Stars 10 was so entertaining. I hope, for some good reasons. It really was so entertaining for me.

I love it. Loved it. Is Irene the alien in your drag family? Yeah, we're at like a little sisterhood situation. You, Irene, Jane Don't. Is it just the three of you? Until somebody else does really, really well on drag race from Seattle and we bring them in to ride their coattails. Yep.

That's so funny. Oh, absolutely. You just forming from drag race. You did a good job. Yeah, you get to be part of the sisterhood for sure. No, like I'm doing a tour this year And I'm calling it the SS Coatails Because Irene's coming with us

And we're just gonna stick her on the trailer in the back It's gonna be great That's funny. Is it the three of you going on this tour? It's not, it's not. It's me and Irene Who have a Magic the Gathering YouTube channel together Which is delightful. I do believe Jane is going on her own tour though

And then when her TV clout kind of dries up And she needs to come and join our little Three Musketeer situation We have this so ready and figured out. Honestly, saying it, it sounds like a little like conniving, but it's really smart. I don't know. It is. It's also just like realistic.

Like you do your TV moment. You have your wave. And then the easiest way to find another wave is to hitch onto somebody's wave. And then you guys build a new wave. Yes. I think it's very, very smart. I think the word is strategi. I think so.

I think it's ladyish strategi. Latified strategie. Latified strategy. That's actually a fun drag name. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I don't know. Like, Trixie Kachia, Bob Monet. It's smart.

It's kind of the... And it's nice because you're also friends. Yes. Allegedly. Hang out with your alleged friends. No, it's actually really great because we were all really good friends beforehand and just like love and adore each other.

And now we get to ruin that friendship by turning it into a business partnership. How did you come to your drag style? Because I feel like the three of you, it's not similar. It's just so polished. Thank you. So how do you get polished drag? You get really mean friends that call you an ugly man when you look bad. And that kind of sorts you out really quickly.

Yeah, I think we all had very similar sensibilities of like what we liked in drag and what we gravitated towards and what we thought made for like good. stagecraft. And then we were also not afraid to tell each other when we looked crazy. And I think that is kind of a hidden ingredient for drag queens. If she looks good, it's because somebody's been mean to her several times. It does not happen by accident. And it doesn't happen because everybody's like, you look great when you don't. Yes.

But I tell everybody they look great because I'm the nice one of the three. And once again, I'm not helping anybody get better. Once again, I'm not helping anybody get better. You're pulling that ladder up. Oh yeah. Absolutely. No. Get down there. Not only you pulling up the ladder, you're stomping on their hands.

Oh, for sure. Get out of here. I sometimes look at pictures of myself from a long time ago and I'll be like, so did I not have a single friend in my life to say I did not look good? I felt that so many times, which is why I have such good friends with them now because they were not scared to tell me. Yes. They were not scared to tell me because there's so many times when you look back,

you're like, no one could have said anything. No one? No one would have said that those eyebrows. No, no. We couldn't have cleared any of that up for me. I went through a phase where I did very, very chunky red braids that were straight to hear and then had a really big spiral. And I very much looked like a poodle.

See, you're even laughing at the description of this. No, no, no, no, no, no. I would never do that. It was very poodle-like. Okay. Very poodle realness. And I looked at pictures and my glasses, I had, like, broken off this nose piece because I didn't like how it looked. But then I was like, huh.

It's a thing now. It's my thing. Kind of hurts. I should get new glasses, but whatever, I did it. I'm going to own it. And I looked insane. And nobody said anything. And then I went through a phase where I wore blue contact lenses.

Nobody said a thing. Black people with blue contacts is scary. It's kind of like the, what is it, the Game of Thrones white walker situation. Yes. Yeah, the Sasha Colby eyes, the Cocoa Montresai moments. Yes. Scariff. Similar things.

I had an overtone era. Do you remember overtone, which is like the color depositing, like, conditioner that you could use to dye your hair instead of just using regular hair dye? No. It was really, really big in like 2019, 2018. And I used it to turn my hair like fire engine red. That faded to the color of this beautiful burnt orange table. And then I would also wear blue contacts

Because apparently I was in witness protection And I'm like, I owe the mom a lot of money Like a young Irish lad And that was like a year And everybody just let me do that Uh huh There's also an era when I would do one colored contact Not the other so it looked like I was a husky

That is a choice I know That is so funny Oh bold I had to wear the like solid colored ones because my eyes are so dark and I would

sometimes I'd be looking in the mirror and like glance at something else and then the contact would slowly follow and I was like is this happening in front of people and then I was like well gotta leave the house can't get to the bottom of that

I was like I must have been like at the like Chili's ordering my little triple dipper and I'm like can I? And they're like oh I don't know can you Oh, God. Where is she looking? I had an era where the Boscow brows were very intense, and it kind of formed, like, a skate park ramp in the middle of my face.

And I, like, would sometimes see some pictures of those. I'm just like, no one's at a goddamn thing. They're like, you're so beautiful. That is so funny. Oh, the comment section, though. That will actually get you really good at drag very quickly if you dare to brave those waters. Yes. I had a video go viral.

and it was on like the Sherry Shepherd show. This was, on my podcast was this year. And okay, do you lotion your whole body? Yes. Okay, so I wasn't doing that. Okay. I would only lotion what you could see. Oh, darn it.

And I think it was my ADHD where I was like, oh, I can't fathom doing all that. I have to go. I'm already running late. So we were talking about that. The clip went viral. and then in the comment section, people were not being kind, but then this one man said,

hey, she used to be almost 300 pounds. She's just getting to places she could touch, be easy on her. And I was like, not too much, because I don't know if you're actually. We dug so deep to really hurt you with a compliment. Yes. I was like, who way!

And then I had to, so I read comments sometimes. because I'm like, maybe somebody will tell me something I don't know. Enlighten me. And in that one, I was like, maybe it wasn't just the ADHD. Maybe it was a little bit of the weight and, you know, I couldn't reach something. And I was like, oh, my God. And then I thought about it for too long.

And I was like, well, you know what? I did get pretty big. Maybe if a friend was like, hey, girl, everything okay, why you eat so much? Maybe I could go. Hey, God, you look huge lately. Are you doing okay? That's funny. That's funny.

That's funny. Because I was saying it and I was like, that would be okay. That would be wild. I don't think. I actually think there. They did you look at huge lately everything. Okay. There's certain things where I'm like, maybe we can't be that name.

No, you're absolutely right. That's like the place of somebody as a stranger on the internet. That is their job. Your friends, maybe we don't get to do that. Hey, girl, you look at huge lately. My God, Bosco, that really got me good. I'm sorry. Because I was trying to like reason it.

out being like, oh, that would be okay? I wish somebody told me that I looked like a fat mess, and then I would have like, that's crazy. It is crazy. It's crazy. Okay. Okay. Oh, my God, I'm crying. Ooh, I have to make this makeup last all day.

You need to make me stop crying. Okay. I'm sorry. How did you get into Magic the Gathering? Oh, okay. I don't even know Magic the Gathering. Okay. I'm so sorry.

This is about to get really boring and nerdy for you then. It's okay. I like when people have interests. Some people are boring. Some people are really boring. It is like one of the oldest like card game situations Did you do? Were you of the era that like had Yu-Gi-o on TV?

Do you remember that like little like anime thing? It's kind of like that but it came first. Oh, okay. So it's card games with monsters on it and you play things and you interact with other people. Okay. Very, very fun. It's created by the same people who do Dungeons and Dragons.

But this is like the no role-playing one. I didn't want to have to make improv my hobby because I have friends and I wouldn't want to do that. Yeah, improv is just not a real art form. Here's the thing. I do so much of improv. I do too. I'm just being an asshole.

And it's so funny. Because when you watch bad improv, you're like, oh, boy. Or when you see it, like, in a movie where it's, like, bad and you're like, this is what I do. Yeah, what is it? This is what I do. Catherine O'Hara. Yes. What is it?

Oh, my God. It's the one that came before Best in Show. It's the same type of thing. but she's like, they're doing like an improv scene and they're just like terrible community actors. Yes, yes, yes. Waiting for Guffman. Waiting for Guffman.

Thank you. That's kind of how I feel every single time I see or are subjected to improv. But I also like have to do improv a lot for my job and have done it on television with millions watching several times. So it's, yeah, it's just also fun to make fun of. It really is. It is every time I do it, I'm like, oh my God. And then so.

Then you see a really good improv, though, and you're like, anything is possible. Yes. It's drag. That's drag. You see bad drag? You're like, my profession is a joke. Honestly. I can't believe anybody gives me money.

Oh. When the back air is out. Oh, my God. But there's a breastplate. Oh. Iconic. I know. I'm going to see a meatball tomorrow.

I can't wait. Sometimes I look at meatball and I'm like, I love it. It's a choice. It is a choice that she makes every time she leaves the house and she's like, nah, I'm not going to shave that. Nope. On the face, too.

Just like one little patch under the nose. She texted me the other day and was like, is it weird to wear a mustache out in public? And I was like, no. No. People aren't whimsical anymore. You do that. That makes me happy.

I saw that picture. She looked great with a mustache. Yes, I think she looks great. Honestly, a mustache suits her face very well. She doesn't butches her up a little. A little bit. A little. A little bit.

Just a little bit. I thought you looked great with a mustache. I also love mustaches. I'm glad that they're having, like, kind of a moment. I like mustaches, too. The only thing I don't like is when someone with a mustache drinks and then there's, like, drink on the mustache. And I'm like, oh, get it together. Yeah, like the little soup sifter moment.

My fiancé has, like, a beard. And sometimes I'm, like, picking shit out of his beard. How did you guys meet? He used to come to my shows back when I worked locally in Seattle. And then he drunkly quirk. cornered me after one show and asked me to go to lunch with them. And I said, okay. And then we did that.

And then it was nice. And then we didn't talk for like a month for some reason. And then we started hanging out again. And then the world shut down. And then my mom died. And then I got on TV. And we just kept on hanging out. And it just kept on working out.

And I think we got all the hard stuff out of the way other than the crumbs in the beard. That is wild. Wait, your mom died and then you got on TV? Yeah. Was it a nice distraction? No, it was like a year later. So it kind of was like, we're, like, God was really dunking on me in that moment. Like, it was like, she died and then the lockdowns happened.

So then I couldn't do drag anymore. Oh, shit. And then, like, I almost got on season 13. And they're like, we have Simone, I think we're good. And I think, I think we need, I don't think this is your time, sweetie. And I'm like, you know what? Watching that season? Sure wasn't.

Like, she would have fucking mop the floor with me that year. So I'm so happy they waited a year. That's interesting. So when you got close to getting it, what is that like? They're like, almost? Just hold on a little bit. I don't know how they do it now because this was like four or five years ago. But there used to be like different portions of the casting that you'd have to go through in certain levels.

And like I, there used to be like a level of like interviews and X, Y and Z. And then, like, at that point, they're, like, considering, like, the top, I don't know, 40, 30 girls. And when you get to that point, they're usually like, hey, we want to, like, utilize you at some point. We'd love to, like, work with you in the future. This just isn't the right fit for you. Ah. I don't know if they do it that way anymore. Nor do I know if I'm supposed to tell how their casting process works.

But that was five years ago, and I can't imagine that NDA. We could also cut it out. We sure could. I don't think it matters because I also don't think they do it that way anymore. Sure. Okay. All right. I don't know.

But it is kind of wild to like have your mom die be on TV because it's like you're going through grief and then now there's an added pressure of like more grief. You kind of have to grieve the person you were before you're like before you're famous. Yeah, absolutely. And then you have to grieve the person everybody's finding out is famous, which is a lot. And then you're like, I don't know. You don't really get to see how you are perceived by people until you see yourself. in that bird's eye view

and you're like, oh wow, I understand why some people don't fuck with me. It is wild because it's like it is one, the edit but then it also is too sometimes you're just different when there's cameras on you.

True. And then also sometimes you get a certain edit because certain things that you do read a certain way and like while the context might be removed of all the other things that you do, those moments still read like that in that moment.

And it just kind of gives you a lesson of just like, oh, that's kind of how I come off to people. And then I thought all of that was way too easy. So then I started to transition as well. You were like, I need a little bit more character. Yeah. I'm like, Mama needs a new storyline. Let's go.

Was the choice to transition hard? Or was it like, no, this is, oh, this is what I've always wanted. Let me just do it. Is that a bad question? I don't think so, because I think it makes sense. Um, I was, like, hesitant to really double down on, like, medical transition, um, prior to drag race. Um, even though, like, I was very non-binary, definitely was a barista, had, um, a relationship that with my eyebrows that could only be described as mysterious at a septum ring. Like, we had, we were, we were fully in the thick of it. Um, like, 2016 hated to see me coming. I was so non-binary.

Uh-huh. And, like, that was a good space for me for a while. And then being perceived by, like, the world and also seeing how I read to the world and was like, oh, I really feel like I should push further, which is something I had always wanted to do, but was scared of. And then doing TV honestly gives you the means to do things a little bit easier and less stressful. And so we just pulled the trigger and went for it. I think that's really interesting that you're like, essentially you're saying you had the money to do it. Yeah, that really helps. It does help.

It makes things... It really helps. A little bit easier. Yeah, this is going to be crazy to everybody at home. Having more money makes your life a little easier. Because you know the phrase it's like, money can't buy happiness. And I'm like, money could buy me boobs. And that made me, and a lot of people pretty fucking happy.

Money bought me boobs. So... Yeah, money makes you happier. Money makes you feel more secure. Money makes you be able to, like, take risks and choices that if you couldn't afford, you wouldn't be able to do. Oh, absolutely. I was working like eight days a week for years, just like trying to barely get by and like the idea of saving up enough money to be able to like not just like you could like figure out to like how to like crowdsource like the funds

or surgery. But then what happens when you can't work for a month? Yeah. What happens when you have to recovery or something goes wrong? Yeah, get something fixed or whatever. Yeah. I like that you said that because I feel like a lot of people won't say that. Well, I think it's just because it's not fair and it sucks and it kind of sucks to hear. But it's also like as truthful as I can be about things. And like obviously you don't have to go on TV to have money to feel situated. But that was kind of the only path for me to do what I wanted to do. And it worked out.

And I'm just a very lucky individual. And I'm sorry for those who aren't a suck. And I'm sorry for those who aren't sucking. I'm sorry for everybody out there who's not as lucky as me. No, because it's not fair. Everybody should have the option and, like, the access to the care that I got. Yes. And it is, I was talking to, my trainer lives in England.

I met him out here. He moved to England. We do it over Zoom. And it's so silly. Okay. Well, okay, the reason why I still use him is because we're friends and he's nice to me. Okay, I love that. I don't want a trainer who is mean.

No. And he's not. like focused on me losing weight, he'll be like, like, if I can do more squats the next week, he's like, isn't that cool that you could do more squats? And I'm always like, cool. And that's kind of the point. Yeah. So that's why I really love him. But we were talking about healthcare and he was talking about all this stuff that's like included in their universal healthcare. And I'm like, God, it is so wild that health care here is tied to your job. Like, that is so weird that it's like if you don't have a job that means you don't deserve health care.

It's very the like American mindset though. Like that that is the USA. Like if you're not contributing to society, you don't have value. And if you don't have like some sort of fiscal amount attached to you as a human being, you do not matter. Which is rough and sucks. And I don't think is the way we should be doing it. And in fact, most countries don't do it that way because it sucks.

Yes. Like he was telling me all this shit that was covered. And I was like, wait, what? And I don't want to put all his business out there, but like, a lot of shit. Oh, he's getting shit done. He's getting yank, cold, refresh. He looks so good every week. And I'm like, that was covered?

I love that. It's just like, I need a gender affirming Kaibela. What is Kaibela? You've missed it twice. I think so. It's one of the injectables because I couldn't remember Juvederm. Ah. I can't.

I think Kaibela might be the fat dissolving one. And then Juvador. is like the filler one. I don't know. I just trust the lady who puts the needles in my face and she does whatever she does. Sometimes I'm like,

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I'm dying just a slight raise. Some. I also have my eyes. eyebrows like partially glued down. So this isn't the actual angle of my eyebrows, but we are a bit frozen at the moment. Just here, though. It looks great.

Thank you. It also works. It also works well with makeup, you know? And that makes things work well for me because I have to wear makeup a lot. Yes. Real quick, we got to take a break. Check it out. Comedy Royalty Kate McKinnon returns as Queen Mortruana in heads will roll,

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for single people? No, I don't think so. Because, like, I wasn't really focusing on not being single when I became unsingled. When I lost my single status. And, like, I'd been single for five, six years. And it just, like, wasn't something that I was pursuing. And it just worked out. I do think there's a lot of things to love about being single.

Yeah. And I think, honestly, if I didn't love Blake so much and didn't love our life together, I would still be single because I love being single. But sometimes you'll like luck into a relationship where things just feel better and are the way that they're supposed to be with another person. But that's not the case for everybody. And that's not something that you should like wait for or build your life around expecting. I don't know. I feel like when you build into yourself, people get more interested in want to be with you.

I think that's actually very good advice. Okay. Because before I met the nice man in my life, I would get sad about being single. actually really enjoying being single. And I was like, I have a nice life. I've got great friends. I have a career. I was like, you know, I only think I want somebody who's going to add value to all that because I already have a lot of good shit going. And then I met the nicest man who is fine with a lot of, like, he lets me just talk at night. Like, while he's trying to fall asleep, he lets me just talk until he falls asleep. And so cute. A lot of people would not like that.

But like, and then last night I was like, well, if you walk the dog, I won't talk while you go to sleep. And he said, deal. And then he said, don't make promises you can't keep. And then I was like, he knows me so well. And then when we got in bed, I was like, I said, I wouldn't talk. And then he went, actually, I might have trouble falling asleep if you don't talk to me. Oh, you're like a noise machine for him. It's like when you need to, like, put the fan on in order to, like, kind of drown out everything.

I am. Hit it. Tell me about your day. I am. I'm a white noise machine. I have a question. Please. Have you ever been on a date that you were like,

this is bad? Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. And it still ended with me sleeping with him because I don't have a lot of self-respect. But the thing that really just felt bad was like we were like opening up, like one of our opening lines of conversation with like credit score

and I'm like, I'm going to get the fuck out of here. But instead, I got blasted and made him pay for everything and then I slept with him. I love, well, was his credit score good? It was, but I think that's boring, and I don't think that that's actually something that I care about, and I never talk to him again.

I get that. That is a wild thing to open with, what's your credit score? I'm like, also, mine's garbage. I don't even know my credit score. I don't either. I don't know anymore. That's not my business. No, it's not my business either.

But I do know I had bad credit, and now I have good credit. I had good credit. Then it went really, really bad, and now I think it's fine because I don't get declined for things when I ask to open up accounts. But once again, none of my business is. That might be the opposite.

Because when I... It's a good bet. When I had bad credit, they'd be like, do you want more money? Do you want more credit cards? Well, now it's like, finance something. Oh, I see.

Okay, yes. That means you a good credit. Yeah, I'm like going to like payday loans. I'm just like, they just want to give me so much money. I don't get it. Girl, that's basically what I was doing. I got 30 grand in debt

in one. single year because nobody explained to me that if you only pay the minimum, you'll spend a hundred years paying off $100. I was buying so much. I had a hello kitty credit card. I was like, meow, I'll buy you everything. And then once it got maxed out, they don't stop calling you. And nobody told me any of this. There's only one way to learn, really. Yeah, through living it. Or our TV. Sometimes there's like skits on TV where they tell you stuff like that. But like I have to make my own mistakes. Yes. I am not somebody who is really good at taking advice. I have to find out for myself, even if it's exactly what you told me. Yeah, same. Same. I went to a restaurant with that

nice man in my life and he was like, oh, it's brand new. There's going to be a line. And I was like, okay. And then we left the house. We get there. There's a line. And I went, I can't believe there's a line. He goes, that's what I told you. And I was like, yeah, okay. And I was, Grumpy. I was so mad. And then I was so grumpy. Then we got home and I was like, hey, I'm sorry I was grumpy about something that you already told me about. And then I discovered it and then I didn't like it.

And he was like, well, that's why I told you. And I was like, well, okay. It's like me reaping what I'm sewing. Okay. Can I talk about your tattoos? I would love that. I love them. Thank you.

They're fun. Thank you. I like decorating. And I think we're just going to keep on going. Every time I do anything in LA, everybody's like, you shouldn't get tattoos. And that makes me want more. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I like them. Thank you. This one is really pretty. It's like very, very fine line and very detailed. Yeah. Nick kind of snapped when he did this. So Nick did my upper arms and my hands. And he is a tattoo artist in Seattle.

And he does the majority of my work these days. But I have just like kind of like a quilt patchwork of just like different artists that I'm friends with. I love it. And none of them mean anything to me. Really? Mm-hmm. So did Nick design these? And you were like,

Yeah, do it. Mm-hmm. Essentially. I, like, gave him, like, I like Nick's art. Nick is a great artist. I'm like, here's an idea. And he's like, all right. And then he, like, kind of doodled it up.

I'm like, yeah, we can work with that. I love that they have no meaning. Mine are dumb. But they have meaning, I think. What tattoos do you have? I have a bunch of my butt that are all food. I love that. I love that.

There's a chili pepper that says Moe Caliente, because that was a joke from a while ago. There's a cupcake, a lollipop, and ice from Conan and it says it's sweet, just taste it. My butt. And then there's a hamburger and a hot dog, and it says sticking in these buns, my butt.

I love that. There's a lemon. That's the meaning. That's the meaning. Stick it right in there. And then there's a lemon that says, when life gives you lemons, suck a dick. And I just thought that was really funny. That is fun. And then I had a manic

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I didn't have a rapper name, but I had a fun DJ name the other night. I'm trying to think. I think it was like DJ Lady Jha. The girl at the gig had a really big fucking dog. It's really funny. DJ Lady Jha Because that bitch got a big old jaw

The funniest things are the things That like a mean 12 year old would say Oh yeah Yeah Little Faddy's crazy I like that though I like that quite a bit A little tranny

Oh This is I don't know if we can use it But I do have Like how they do quotes And then put the person's name name under so you can do that and then put J.K. Rowling. Do you know the Jackson 5 clip with Carol Burnett?

And he's like, Tito, I'm the swinging as Jackson. No. Michael's like, I'm the scionniest Jackson. I like saw that kind of recently. And every single day since I like wake up, I'm the triniest Jackson. And I can't stop doing it. So now it's really funny. Thank you.

You should get that tattooed. Right there, little fatty. B.J. Tranius Jackson. Real quick, we got to take a break. I love my contacts. But let me tell you, when one of those little lenses dries up and pops out during a podcast recording, it's over for me. I end up feeling completely cross-eyed for the rest of the day. It made me realize that I desperately needed a cute pair of glasses as a backup at all times.

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I would absolutely love to. So we have the marvelous misgender coming here. It is my one-woman show that I am writing, starring in, poorly acting, and definitely not singing in. I'm going to have every... Everything in my storage unit that I've collected from over the years going to be there. So I have a martini glass.

A big one? I do. It's one that I fit in. It's really sickening. I have my coffin. I have a giant cage that says don't feed the tranimal. And essentially it is telling the story of my alter ego misgender, who is a super villain trying to take over the world by turning everyone trans. Which is the conservatives right.

It really is. It really is what's happening. It's like the conservative things that we're all doing. That's, I love that. I love like reclaiming that kind of narrative. Oh, absolutely. Like, we are the villain and the problem. And you should do something about this before it gets out of hand.

So we're going to tour that. And like, yeah, it's going to be like very like a campy Batman romp. I'm feeling like, like, I'm super inspired by Pui's Playhouse and Alvira. And like, they're different like verres into film. Like, how do we make practical sets again? And how do we have practical theater effects? I'm so tired of AI slop and I don't want to see like a show where it's just like just video screens. Like I want to be able to reach out and feel and touch things.

Yes. So we're really working on creating a super silly set that lives there. I fucking love that. Thank you. I love that so much because I too am just like AI. I like recently had a conversation where like everybody was using AI and the conversation. I was just like, oh, I don't use it. I don't have anything to use it for?

And they were like, oh, yeah, well, you write jokes and stuff. And I was like, sure, but like, you work at an office. Like, why would I want to outsource the thing that I bought tooth and nail to be able to do for a living? And then it's like when people are making like posters with AI and stuff, I'm like, but you're making a poster for your art and you decided to not employ someone who also does art to promote your art. Like, it just. feels whatever. I just really enjoy that you're using like practical things and making

a practical set because it, to me, it matters. When you watch like an older movie and shit's practical, you're like, that's cool. It's sickening. When you see like movie sets, what they used to be. If you watch like the old MGM, like you're like, they built that. Somebody made that on a giant parking lot. To a location.

So they gave Judy Garland enough speed to kill a giraffe, caught her house. And then they built her a Or don't lose her mind it. Exactly. The Ta-Natianthad. And it was sickening. Yes.

They did nothing wrong. Wait, this giant martini glass, I'm obsessed with like a champagne coop tub at like couples resorts or whatever. How big is this martini glass that you can get into? It's huge. So a martini glass is usually kind of like a flat situation. I like built it like with like a prop maker and it ended up being more of a gobliners. and it ended up being more of a goblet. So it is pretty large and in charge.

She's lovely. I can fit my whole body in it. I balance on the brim of her. What's the weight limit? I don't know. I think it's upwards of like 350. Like she's a sturdy gal. Okay.

Are you going to be in L.A.? When? I want to say it's like July 20th or something like that. If I come, can I get in that? Of course you can fucking get in there. It's going to be so fun. This is the best. Do you want me to change out the water?

because I get in there first and usually like my foundation turns at this lovely murky color. No, if that's too much work, I will wear a bathing suit and I will get right into that beige water. Mm-hmm. I'll get in it. Yeah, absolutely. Oh my God. This is, I can't fucking wait. Bosco, this is a dream come true.

I feel like I make a wish kid. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm excited that you're excited. Like, I don't know. It's something that lived in like my notepad for years. And when I tell people and they get excited about it, I'm like, okay, it is a good idea that I'm spending all this time and money energy on it. And also, I feel like people aren't giving shows anymore.

Like, they're not giving a show worth the price of a ticket. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes. I feel like we, I don't know. I've always like studied at the altar like Bend de la Crem and like Varleney and Merrim. And like that's how you put on like a one woman show. There's like some sort of loose narrative that you kind of utilize to cobble together all of your different talents and present them in a whole. way that makes sense. Yes. And that's what we're trying to do here. And also,

touring right now is really hard and selling tickets to shit sucks. Yeah, it does suck. So I picked a really bad time to do this, but we are committed to it now. I will say, it is a hard time to sell tickets, but like word of mouth does work. And since like, I don't know, to me, the show sounds really incredible. It feels like word of mouth will help you sell tickets. Like, I think people are going to be like, it was an experience and it was beautiful and I liked it. I just think... You have such nice things to say to me. Well, I just think when someone...

Because you talk about performing and how the show came together with such care. And I appreciate that, like, you were like, I don't know, I built this fucking martini glass to get into. Like, I don't know. Like, the Dita Vantis of it all, like, her shows are worth the price of that mission. And I just think that should be amplified. And I think that should be, like, something. celebrated. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you so much. I think people are missing

Razzle-Dazzle. Yes. And I think drag queens are really good at Razzle-Dazel. In fact, that's kind of the only thing we can do. So I don't know. I'm excited to have the opportunity to do something like this and I'm excited to show people. I'm excited too. I just watched a clip of Luscious Massacre talking to Bob and Monet going, the girls don't get into drag anymore while they're sitting there. She would not let her foot off of it. It was so funny. Did you see the other part of the interview where she's like, yeah, I was reading for Kim Chi on her season.

No. And like at the time, like, yeah, but like you've really proven yourself as a winner since. And I was just like. Luscious is so funny to me. She's so. So funny. We're not giving the girls the razzle dazzle. You're a drag queen and you're sitting here as a boy.

It made me laugh so hard, but I was like, I don't know. She's wrong. She's not. Although I do have to say I am trying to create certain things where it doesn't require me to be in drag

which is like it is the podcast. I get it. Like I don't know if you should have to dress up and do the full geish every single time you want to do a podcast

when you're doing a podcast so I understand Bob in that moment but Luscious is absolutely a discerated her. ate her up. It was great. It was so funny. So funny.

My favorite part was Bob was like are you talking about me because Lusius was going on for a minute before Bob was like Is this... Me? Is this play about us? Moscoe, thank you so much for being here.

Of course. This is a fucking delight. I thoroughly enjoyed you. Again, everything you did on All-Stars was just delicious and delightful. Thank you. You can balance on a chair in a way that I don't understand. I wouldn't recommend it, but I've gotten really good at it and you can do it like blackout on lawn furniture at this point.

So that I love Thank you I would love to see you go to a bar And they're like Here's some lawn furniture for you to dance with Oh the reason why I know it Is because it's been handed to me When I didn't like

When I didn't like Explain exactly what I needed They gave me like some wicker furniture I'm like all right That's why That splinters And oh no That's okay

Diva no Do you even know Do you know Do you stop Diva no Well We've come to the end Here's a question

Okay It was in the end No it wasn't Wait where can people buy tickets That's one Oh that's so you're so right You're so right You should be selling my show

Not me Dragfans.com We're currently doing I'm a threesome deal Where you can buy two Get one free So the whole polykeal can come Handering

I know my crowd This is the thoughtfulness That you claim not to have But you said the whole pottercule Could come That's so nice Here's another question Would you date me?

Absolutely. Absolutely. And we'd have a key. Although we'd be two Rockies, just knowing the shit out of each other. So I don't know if it'd work out, but I would absolutely date you. I truly do think we would just be screaming the whole time, just having a little too much fun. Oh, mashed potatoes. Well, if you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me, which I'm sure you did, you can like it, you could follow it, you can rate it five stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

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