Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Twin Divorce (w/ Darcey and Stacey Silva)

Episode Date: March 18, 2022

Oh my god, it’s happening. Twins Darcey and Stacy Silva (TLC's 90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days, Darcey & Stacey) are here! They chat with Nicole about how they were separately cast on the reality tv show, getting divorced on the same day, their plastic surgery journey, and TOM! Darcey also announces her split with Georgi, and Stacey shares details about the model who snuck into her husband's DMs in order to get onto the show. Crazy dating story? Looking for advice? Want to leave Nicole a dirty message? Submit it all to [e-mail] for a chance to have it read on-air.   Black Lives Matter. Click here for a list of over 100 different ways you can support racial justice.   Follow Nicole Byer: Tour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenTwitter: @nicolebyerInstagram: @nicolebyerMerch: podswag.com/datemeNicole's book: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746

Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell me why! Ooh, baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me, a podcast where me, Nicole Byer, tries to figure out how I'm still single, even though I would truly pick up my whole life, move to another country, and marry you. Okay, my guests today, they're twins.

They start on, well, Darcy started on 90 Day Fiance before the 90 Days. Now they have their own spinoff that I've seen every fucking episode of because I love it. Darcy and Stacey on TLC. I'm so out of my mind excited. It's Darcy and Stacey Silva. We're so excited to be here. Thank you for having us. Thank you so much.

Oh my God. Thank you truly so much for doing this. Okay, here's, let's just jump into it so Darcy you were on before the 90 days and Stacey you were also dating someone from overseas so did you both audition or Darcy were you the only one who auditioned actually Stacey I think reached out to them first because she was a huge fan of the show back when it was like season five she was engaged to Florian already yeah I'm telling a story yeah I think we talked to them first because I was a huge fan of the show back when it was like season five. She was engaged to Florian already.

Yeah. I'm telling a story. Yeah. I'm going to question first. But okay, go ahead. No. Yeah. Because Florian and I have been together seven years.

And when I used to, you know, I was a loyal fan of the show. Still am. And I was like, that is totally me and Florian. So got in contact with the production, emailed them my story. They loved it. They contacted me back. I asked Florian, you know, to do, we talked about it. He was interested as well.

And they totally loved our story. But the thing is, we didn't have the K-1 visa at the time. And, you know, that's obviously a long process to go through. But they always were, like, interested. And then darcy was i guess dating uh jesse nope you can put your part you're actually going to italy i went to italy you were going to go to italy you invited me to go but i didn't want to be the third wheel so i downloaded this app called inner circle because i was like oh i'll just go maybe network because it was fashion week that time in milan i'm gonna go visit his sister and in the end i didn't end up going she went to italy i always stayed on um the dating app it was like all around italy all different

countries one day i was kind of bored and i went on amsterdam just going around and so i've got you know jesse like sitting there you know like in a chair in the picture i was like oh who's that so i just liked where he responded and uh we talked for like five months before i knew anything about before 90 days uh stacy stacy had wanted to possibly do 90 day because of flooring and their situation but um uh yeah just, I don't know. I was like, how bad could this one be? I wrote a letter cause I was like, it's for people that haven't met for the first time that, you know, you have a connection, you phone. And I was planning on seeing him anyway.

So we talked a good five months before that. Actually Raina had sent me a screenshot and texted me some casting call for a new spinoff for the 90 days it was on facebook or something and i just wrote a letter and they called me back the next day and that's when we did the uh interviews yeah but we both did rounds of interviews me and florence separately her and jesse and then it was two separate shows yeah it was two separate shows obviously they were you know i guess the 90 day and then the before the 90 days so yeah it just happened the way it happened darcy got cast with jesse i was on you know, obviously I'm her sister, so I'm still part of the franchise

in the show. And, you know, I just, you know, I felt like it was just the perfect mix because we both, you know, love our relationships and I guess our foreign guys and it makes sense, you know? So Stacey, did you meet Florian on an app as well on Instagram yes oh an Instagram okay so you slid into the DMs you were like oh I'm feeling you let's do it I was just actually he was liking my pictures a lot and we lived in LA at the time we lived in LA it was like 2015 and we just kept like liking each other's pictures back and forth and then one night I just you know got the nerve and messaged him hey how you doing and I think I called him one night and he spoke very little English and he was just like, uh, I didn't know where he was from, but I don't know. We just hit that, that connection. And

ever since then, we pretty much talked every day. And then after about six months of dating online and FaceTiming every day, and we just created that bond. And there was definitely some chemistry there. So I took the risk and flew to Albania and had the best time of my life and been to Albania many times. It's like home there for me. The people are amazing. His family is wonderful. And yeah, we've been together ever since. Yeah. He proposed that first trip. He did propose on the first trip. Yes. How many days into the first trip did he propose? It was like something like 10? Yeah. Like something like that.

Like 10 days. Yeah. Oh, that's so soon. Yeah. We were in the hotel room. We were having a romantic moment and he looked me in the eye and he, you know, asked me to marry him. And I was like shocked, you know, but I was like, wow, like I really felt we felt that

love energy really deep. And I said, yes, we were obviously engaged for many years and, you know, finally made it official when he came to America. I love that story. It's very it's like very adorable. So, Darcy, I got to ask, why does TLC keep bringing back Jesse? Jesse is nothing without you. He's the least interesting person I've ever seen. I feel like you made the relationship interesting and he was just like rude and mean. And then every time he comes back, he's like, I don't know anything about your life. But it's like, obviously you do because you say some facts that you know.

I guess he studied psychology or something like that. I'm not quite sure. So he likes to like, you know know dictate his storyline and all this and stuff it was very difficult to film with him and be in that relationship like there's many times that i walked away like you know he always he didn't want that he wanted whatever came along with me whether it was he didn't like certain things he didn't like that i was a twin and had a company he was very jealous of that he was very yeah he was narcissistic in a sense you know like he oh absolutely jealous of our lifestyle what we had wanted that and then some and he was just very like difficult to be

around it was like almost like scary you get like a lump in your throat oh boy oh well here we go here we go i had to prepare myself for days just filming with him because it was like he would like make shit up and it was just like it was very awkward and you know i did have love there was some great moments but it was just like i don't know why they i guess well they say love is blind love is blind but they're over into other seasons now i was with the you know the jennifer girl i get it whatever it's not interesting i'm not here for it i also really didn't like the way his parents treated you when you went to amsterdam i thought that was so rude that he didn't go to bat for the woman that he says he loves like that was so like how did that feel in the fucking moment like were you like what

jesse what uh i actually didn't hear what the dad said in the moment because he was like like kind of drunk or something i was like you know i didn't understand what he was trying to say and then i was like oh i'm trying to say and i just like beneath them stacy i kept quiet because i rise above and i was just like oh like not i don't think so i kind of was like you know if they only knew but the mom you seemed cool with and the mom was cool we hung out a couple times went to the gym stuff like that but yesterday and jesse didn't like to do anything really I felt stuck in that apartment the whole time I remember you called me in Florian and I was in Albania and you were like in the bathroom when you're whispering you're like

like scared to talk are you okay Stacy just relax it, it was just, everything was on his terms. It was very cool being around him a lot of the times, you know, I'm not going to get questioned why I stayed in the relationship. It was very on up, up and down. No, no,

I fully understand that. Like sometimes the good outweighs the bad, but then you just spend a lot of time being like, is the bad even fucking worth the good? I tried to make it good. Cause I would go, I would be the one that have to go see him on my dime. dime you know we had the great little grease trip that i did give him cash for like he likes to make up these stories in his own head to make other people believe it when i

know like it's it's it's lies and he's just i don't know why they roll him over i guess because he thinks he's a fake celebrity i don't know when did you two decide that you love traveling and that you've been to so many different places? Like your trip to Turkey was so much fun. Always. I think it's in our blood. We traveled since age of three. Our dad, Mike, he's an engineer. So we always, all over the world, we lived in London, Japan, Singapore.

Growing up, we went to school. Oh, wow. School there. All over the U.S., Texas, Indiana, West Virginia, Connecticut, New York, LA. We like new things. We like to experience meeting new people, new cultures. So for us, it's like easy. Like anytime we get an opportunity or the itch to go, we try to go like nothing stops us. You know, that's, we don't have that fear. And I think we learned that at a young age because we traveled with our family twins too we were kind of stuck out a lot

especially when we had each other yeah we just loved you know just doing things together and yeah it always felt like we were going to do something in the entertainment business it was just like the right timing characters yeah you guys are so natural on camera and so much fun and like open and this so before the 90 days and darcy and stacy's not your first foray into reality television you guys had a pilot yeah we did twin lives we did that a couple years we pitched it we had um camera crew yeah we executive produced it as well uh frame did the theme funk for it um with our cousin julian who's in the music industry that was back in the day that was back in the day that was right before

our divorces before we got divorced on the same day and the judge was like is this like a reality tv show we did a pilot we kept pitching it then we said no let's go into the movie business we started with entertainment therefore we, we executive produced White Tea, a huge feature film that we did with Eric Roberts and Deanne Sanders and the Mixon brothers. And that was a great success. Soul Ties. Soul Ties. Entertainment. We worked on that a little bit with them as well. And Business of Dance, some other pilots that we did in the company. And then a couple of years later, we started House of Eleven. Back to your divorce on the same day. That's wild.

Did you all, did you get married on the same day too? Did you have a twin wedding or no? No twin wedding. She didn't, I didn't know she got married. She had like a quickie little wedding. Wait, you didn't know Stacey got married? Oh, she did like a little. My ex-husband was a professional soccer player.

So we traveled a lot. We lived in Ohio at the time. Everybody else in our family was living on the East Coast. So my ex-husband was Serbian and all of his family lived was still in Serbia. And it was difficult for his family to come here. So we just wanted to do like a little wedding. We did. We went to like the justice of peace we you know set our vows we got married and then we had a little small little get-together party

with some of his serbian friends at the serbian church and some of his soccer player friends it wasn't like our dad was his second wife it's not a big deal and you know my dad was like would you rather have the money for a wedding or the cash so we chose i chose the cash put down on a condo yeah i had the big wedding at saint patrick's cathedral after 9 11 in new york you know when um you know we did get divorced on the same day we were both living in connecticut in the in the house that you see on the show or it wasn't planned that way just kind of like happened i think because we were living in middletown and our dad was in china so he gave us the house because he would only come home like once or twice a year for work it was our safe haven so i was there with the girls and frank

and he was she was there with her husband her boys and i don't know just if we just felt like you know we're ready to just further our our lives you know the guys didn't understand that we decided you know to separate was mutual and we got divorced we had uh it mediated in connecticut uh we were planning on moving to la to start 11th entertainment that's why you know there was dates set specifically because we already had our office and our company running at that time and we needed to get to los angeles as well so um you know the guys were ready to move on as well so it was quick and easy but it was on the same day and the judge was kind of like okay two twins on the same day and then moving to la to make it in entertainment

show business like is this a reality it's like a reality show and we're like 10 years later you know you're like it will be it will be a very successful reality show when did you guys start house of 11 house of 11 yep in honor of our brother yeah it's it's named after your brother yes he was born may 11th in 1941 and passed july 11th in 98 hence 11 11 um we started you know just feeling his energy around us and stuff like that. He was always a strength. He's like the patriarch of our family and everything of him. And he gives us that sense of hope and strength. And I remember him when he was going through his, um, cancer and everything, he just would always come to us and never wanted us to be scared about

what we had to go through life. He stayed strong for us. And he he said never let anyone say you can't do something and keep going fight fight but never so that's what we do we fight and then we started house of 11 in honor of him the logo is like a sheet age of one one the of radical equation like type f so that brings in our dad like the engineered side so and from far away looks like 11 11 on the clock that's why we opened that but for our first company was 11th entertainment so everything that we do tends to have the number 11 10 7 11 in it i love that um okay let's talk about georgie real quick so did you think it was manipulative that he proposed to you a second time in front of your children? Or did you find that to be sweet?

I thought it was sweet because I knew at the beginning that's what my daughters wanted. You know, I think, you know, I've always talked about getting engaged and married and having, you know, you know, beautiful life with someone I care and love for. And they're always like, Mom, you know, we would always because that means a lot to them. They want to feel included. And I would never want them nuts. I actually thought the first time I was so upset and nervous. I was like, oh my God, my kids are going to be so upset. Like they didn't know anything. It was like, I feel like it's going to pull the rug from underneath their legs. And I was like, I wish you would have said something to them. I mean, maybe they didn't have to be there per se in person the first time, but at least no, you know, but I'm, you know, I'm glad I had their support and love and, you know, it made the decision easier, you know, because I knew

if they were happy, like I kind of had to look like, I was like, oh, they're my babies. They're my babies, no matter what, or any man, they will always come first. And I deserve love. They deserve a stepdad that will, you know, be honest, open and take care of them and love them, too. So I just thought it was sweet. It was OK, you know, and we had talked about getting engaged again. You know, we just didn't know anything or nothing was that. So, you know, I just wanted them to feel comfortable as well. And it was a beautiful moment.

You know, we kind of felt swept away a little bit. I love that. I also love that he kept planning water activities. And it seemed like you are adverse to water. Maybe my favorite moment in reality television where I think it was Anika was pretending to be drowning. And you're like, I'm coming for you, Anika! And you jumped in. You're like, get me out of here!

I truly rewound it and watched it so many times that's so funny because she's like because i kept stalling i was procrastinating and i was like they're already like they're having fun in the water they're water babies you know just going around like a fish or a shark or whatever it is the camera guys underneath like we just had the fashion show the day before i didn't want to bring my hair because I knew we were filming. I'm like, oh, great. I had the nice top bun, little ponytail extension.

That's going to drag me down like a weight. I was like, oh, great. I was like, you know, thinking of all these different factors and then like the fish, like how far deep is it? I'm like, come on, mom. They kept saying, come on. They're being silly. And then they finally, like, that's Veronica when she got me she was like yeah and i'm like i'm changing my

baby i'll dive in and then i got right back up because it felt like i was like diving in the deep abyss i don't know it was like i had my i had the goggles on i think they fell off or something and i had contacts and I wear hard lenses. So I was like, oh, I lose when I feel the fish. I feel like if I lose contacts, I'm screwed. So I couldn't open my eyes. And I'm like, where do you share me? I thought it was like a fish.

I don't know. I wish we were there. I don't know what we were. No, because I don't know how to breathe through that tube under the water. And I was just like, what was I going to do? I couldn't scream. I didn because I don't know how to breathe through that tube under the water. And I was like, what was I going to do? I couldn't scream. I didn't want to swallow the salt water. It was just like, it all happened really fast.

I don't know. I just wanted to get the hell out of there. Came back to the villa. It was so funny. We were like, oh my God. Yeah. Craziness. It was so funny to me.

So, Stacey, you and Florian looked at a condo in Miami. Are you guys moving to Miami or are you still in Connecticut? Tell me, where are you guys now? We're kind of in transition. You know, we love to travel. You know, we're just playing it by ear. Nothing set in stone just yet. So, yeah, we're still in Connecticut.

You know, we have a new house, you know, our dad's house in Connecticut. Beautiful. Beautiful. Huge, huge, beautiful home. And very blessed to have that. you know our dad's house in Connecticut beautiful beautiful huge huge beautiful home and um very blessed to have that we also you know had a lot of things happen um we went on press tours a lot came to visit uh Miami with her husband Shannon come back and forth you know we go back and forth that's what we do we lived in LA we were bi-coastal. Yeah. Probably.

When you guys got your teeth done, and Florian, what did he say? He was like, the baby shark teeth? That made me laugh so hard. When I sent him the video, baby, you still love me? And his response was the little baby shark do-do-do video on YouTube.

I was like, aw. He's like, I still love you, baby. When did the two of you get into plastic surgery? Like, when, what was, who was the first one that was like, aw. He's like, I still love you, baby. When did the two of you get into plastic surgery? Like, when, what was, who was the first one that was like, I want to get something done? We did at the seams in Beverly Hills. We had a really good doctor. We all, every time we do surgery, we always do, like, our research and, you know, who's really good. So we were in Beverly Hills.

He was a top doctor. Yes, he did a lot of, like, the actresses and models. We just did our boobs we just did the boobs very small it's very natural because we breastfed and we wanted just and we were you know it was very modest 35 you know we were in our late 30s so why not you know newly single you know we were in shape. Like we were working out, like really fit. Like we lived in LA and we looked good. I feel like it, you know, it was good size.

Yeah. But then we went to Miami when we moved back from back to Connecticut, went to Miami and we went a little bigger. We've got a little boob greed, a little boob greed. It went a little bigger. Boob greed. Yeah. People don't realize you got to change them out. And they were kind of dropping a little boob greed boob greed people don't realize you gotta change them out

and they were kind of dropping a little bit because you know when you gain weight and lose weight up and down up and down skin still stretches and that was really the problem was the skin kept getting bigger when we really needed the lift we didn't want the scars at the time so too heavier and then

your back is so top heavy so turkey is when we did the lift. Yeah. I feel like, you know, so we went on easier for us to like, you know, just maintain this look and with diet and exercise, we're just going to maintain it like that. Yeah.

Cause it's also about health as well. And for us, it was just cosmetic for health issues. You know, we had all this extra skin and it weighs, it was, you know, they gave us a tummy check in Miami a while back. He sold our muscles back together. We had two kids, like people don't realize it wasn't just for, it's not for vanity. It was like to fix what was, you know, we had like hernias and all this stuff. Like we had to get put back together.

And actually I wasn't even going to do my teeth for many years. I just was like, you know what? You did bondings. I did you bondings. What are bondings? It's a cheaper version of veneers. It's a resin that they put on it, but they chip and they stain. If you're going to go and do it, you might as well do the veneers.

So she eventually did the veneers, which looked the best so far. Yeah, I'm very happy with Comfort Zone Dental in Turkey. They are the best. We've made really great friends with them. We're, you know, we like family now. Yeah. Do you think you're going to get anything else done? I don't know.

If there's some sort of new procedure, I'll sure like think about it. What about the hairline? Oh, yeah. They do the hairlines now. But I don't know about it. What about the hairline? Oh yeah, they do the hairlines now. But I don't know. Wait, what's the hairline? Does it bring it forward

or does it bring it back? Because we have high foreheads, very foreheady. But hey, they say, hair transplant. Big foreheads are small. Oh,

okay. They can lower the hairline. But it's a long, it's like a long healing process. It wouldn't look right if we're on TV. I don't think it's going to look right and we're just going to wear

cool hair plugs. Yeah, for a year, you can't wear a hat or anything. Oh yeah. We like our hats and our scarves. long healing process. It wouldn't look right. I don't think it's going to look right. And we're just going to wear cool hair plugs. Yeah. For a year. You can't wear a hat or anything. Oh yeah. We like our hats and our scarves. So we hear of new things. It's like,

Oh, what's that? You research. It's either. We like, we like threads, threads. We do threads.

What's threads? And they don't last. Like threads are like PDO threads, like, like a suture that they put in your skin. They're the muscle tissue to lift and pull. Oh, so it just like pulls, just snatches you back a little. Yeah.

Like the. Oh. Over time it builds collagen. So it's not permanent. Yeah. It does hurt. And it lasts only like a few months. But.

Well, we'll see. You know. Combined with some filler. Everything is maintenance. Yeah. Unless we do our Botox and fillers, which. You know, the look for less. You know. Okay. We look puffy and stuff. You know, combined with some filler. Everything is maintenance. Yeah. Unless we do our Botox and fillers, which, you know, they'll look for less, you know. Okay, we look puffy and stuff.

You know, it's like, yeah. Yeah, but when you look, I don't know, round faces look younger. I think so, too. Hey, thank you. I'll look young for the rest of my life because she fat. Okay, real quick, we got to take a break.

Okay, real quick, we got to take a break. Real quick, let's talk about Tom. Tom was such an interesting man. Tom, from the jump, I was like, this man just wants to be on television. I don't think he likes our Queen Darcy. I don't know what's going on. and then the last interaction was so fucking rude yeah I couldn't believe it that was his style a lot of the times we were friends we met on Facebook when I lived in LA before I moved back to Connecticut way before Jesse he was cool we

had like a a decent demeanor and like a little flirtatious manner to us. He was living in Argentina at the time and, you know, talked here and there for a good year or so. And then when I moved to Connecticut, we kind of just like lost touch. And that's when I started talking with Jesse. So then Jesse, that was years. And then he found me somehow, I don't know. It was right around the breakup and stuff. And he just, what are you doing dating that?

It wasn't social media or something. I'll post Jesse. And I don't know. know i thought tom was cool he just seemed very worldly and like he painted himself out to be like a jet setter type guy that worked in fashion and we had a lot of similarities i knew he had a kid you know like we had a lot in common i just don't know how it kind of just ghosted and just like the conversations were going cool you know something could build from there and it didn't. So I left, you know, there was no way to really reach him. I was like, whatever it is, what it is, you know?

And then I met Jesse and that was what, two years or so. And then Tom came back like nothing ever happened. I was like, Oh, whatever happened to you? I guess he started dating someone else in Argentina. I have no clue. But then he moved back to the UK and um i just felt like you know we kind of reconnected and had that energy i feel like you're someone i can open up to is very seemed you know like smart like he's very business-minded everything has to be like a business kind of deal which is weird and

i was like he's always talking about how what we could do a house of 11 it was like other stuff what he wanted to do with it just it was flattering at times but also it was kind of like weird like why is he always asking me this stuff like like an opportunist yeah that's very much what it seemed like and it wasn't until i went to the uk you know we were filming and stuff because you know we had a connection and you know i love you we were saying we were getting closer you know, we had a connection and I love you. We were saying we were getting closer, you know, when I felt like we were like in a relationship, you know, but over the phone we FaceTime all the time. But he, when I got there, it was just like, I don't know.

Everything was kind of on his terms and it was weird. And I don't think he was really living the life. He said he was living and I was noticing small things. Like, why doesn't he have any cash on him like I'm like oh it was your birthday I was like our first day off I'm like I want to go to like house to CB and shop because that's where they're based and like London they have like cute dresses and I was filming and I want to look good you know and he's like yeah we'll go we'll go so he went to some guy's store because it was like his birthday two weeks prior and he's like oh just shopping like buying like you know he was all about the

clothes and everything and he's like I only have like 500 euro I mean I'm getting all this but I was like well okay I guess I'll get the jacket because it was your birthday so I bought him like a jacket he's like but I'll pay you back I'll pay you back i have like cash in in a safe or something like that and notching in a safe i don't know it was like okay i figured it's his birthday whatever i'll just find like a hundred dollar little fucking jacket i don't really care at the time yeah because we were doing like fun stuff but it was just like wow like you're like with me for three weeks and you only had like a little bit of cap like i was like oh like the little things that he didn't want to go to albania it was like a whole thing and i was

just like he wanted to go to grand canary so bad i'm like why grand canary like he's like oh because like my uncle lives there or something like we could do traveling later on and for like the government i was like i don't know what you're talking about right now i just want to go see stacy and foreign in albania and i don't think it should be like that big of a deal. Everything was always like a problem, you know, or like, you know, he always wanted to just kind of like find the new best thing to do. Like a business opportunity or something. I just was like, he was fun though.

We had fun times though. Off-Carol. Off-Carol, he had fun. You know, he's like, you know, like to times, though. Off-Carol actually had fun. You know, he liked to party a little bit. Him and Florian went out, like, they went drinking and hung it up a lot. But it was just, relationship-wise, I was just like, hmm.

I thought he was better than Jesse for me, but I think there was, like, some weird things I just didn't get. Like, his lifestyle wasn't really like that, I felt. So I just didn't appreciate that Like, his lifestyle wasn't really like that I felt. So I just didn't appreciate that at times. Yeah, it's hard to be lied to. Yeah, and then he bashes us on social media and he's like,

bullshit. Like, we are so authentic and real and it's kind of like, wow. You were very giving. You were very giving. Very giving. Paid for dinners, paid for a lot of things and Lauren and I know everything so it's okay you know we're not here to trash talk but you know we know yeah i'm done so no i don't think you guys have

been trash talking i think you've all been very diplomatic yeah you know you know we know it was a fun relationship but it just probably wasn't meant to last you know he had other motives and mo's and i think tv was one of them as well. I fully agree. So what kind of advice would you give to someone who's single and looking? Any advice we can give you guys out there who are single is, you know, just be authentic. You know, I just recently learned along with Stacey, we went to an amazing Elena Cardone event. The Tenek Ladies. Tenek Ladies. It was so amazing. Women empowerment.

And so inspiring. It's when you're authentic, it vibrates so much higher than love. You know, when you're yourself, you've attracted things and people, the right people, surround yourself with the right people, you know,

stay open to what you know you deserve and what you want to receive. So I think that's a great way to start. Just, you know, be authentic first and foremost and see how the universe opens up to you how did you guys figure out how to be like authentically you like you guys are you really don't really give a shit what people think like you blessed hair extensions before putting them in and the women who are putting them in were like truly looking at you and you're like yes but this is what we're doing we don't fucking care that you're looking. Yeah, we don't care.

But I feel like people think that we do. And it's like, honestly, like we are authentic because, you know, we're moms, you know, we're business women. We're just trying to help others. We just want to inspire others just like everybody else. It's through our stories that can help each other. And our story is authentic, just like yours, just like everybody else. We were always the underdog. We were, you know, the two shy twins in the corner.

We were picked on all the time. What do we have to hide? We have nothing to hide, you know? And so being real, people can relate to that because they're like, oh, wow. That's all that matters. You know? Oh, if they could do it, we could do it type of thing, you know? And actually, we get approached all the time, especially like in public.

Oh yeah. They're like, wow. Like, first of all, they're like, wow, you're so beautiful. You look totally different in person than you do on camera. And not everybody, you know, some people look better in person. And it's, we get bashed all the time on social media. Like, oh, you guys look like the plastic twins and all this stuff. We use filters a lot and I don't really care.

I like the filters. They look cute. You know, we should make a Darcy and all this stuff. We use filters a lot and I don't really care. I like the filters. You know, we should make a Darcy and Stacey filter. We are who we are. And I think people have been really welcoming towards us, especially like in public and stuff. So I think whatever we're doing, we're doing something good.

You know, we're showing our vulnerable side on TV and it's, you know, there's a lot of ups and downs, but it's okay because we're very relatable and so many people have said when they meet us in the street or out somewhere they're so nice they're just like wow you've helped me with this and that in my relationship tell us their story that we'll sit and chat with them even if we're sitting at dinner or something they'll hug us and they'll cry oh my god like your story really touched me like really touchable and yep

yeah and we don't mind sharing that we forget the cameras around whenever we film or do stuff and you know they'll they'll they film everything guys we don't hold up all day and all night i mean we're talking like hours and hours and hours and what's there to hide we're all together yeah we were a lot of we're all together you talked about being picked on uh like in your youth so was that like high school or like middle school like when when did you guys blossom into people who were like oh aspirational you know what i mean like when did the bullying stop junior high high schools when it kind of started there was like we switched schools like oh did you see those twins they're so they're ugly they would call us like fugly and stuff and like like troll dolls

yeah like make fun of haters it was like weird like we had some friends but we were kind of just very we didn't really we were just like tennis was our outlet our dad got us activities we went to school then we would go to the office, his office and the tennis country club was right down the street. He put us in tennis lessons and we got really good. First, we wanted to go pro. He said, pick an activity. First, we chose French. French lessons.

We wanted to go to fucking France. She was getting upset with us because we started having weird accents. We couldn't really do it. She was like, with us because we started having like weird accents. Like we couldn't really do it the way she did it. And she was like, I'm kind of mean. Our mom is French, Canadian French.

So we really liked it. We really like studying different languages. See, it's like we wanted to study a different language. But then, I don't know, then all the kids were playing tennis. So we just, you know, we wanted to do that. So your mom is French-Canadian. Your dad is Cape Verdean. Have you been to Cape Verde?

Not yet. Hopefully one day soon. We would love to go to visit family there. You know, I'd love to go. They weren't born there, but they were raised in the U.S. But my mom is also Canadian-French from Quebec. Her side and her father's side is from the ukraine ukrainian okay so yeah i love it you guys are like international yourselves um okay what's the

worst date each of you have been on the worst date um i never really went on like a lot yeah you're kind of like i don't know she always sticks with the same guy i like to switch it up a little bit i don't know i guess jesse one of those dates because it was boring he didn't like to have any fun oh i was like first time in amsterdam we had like a day or no no we filmed and then i went back like a couple months later to visit and i was like oh let's go to dinner let's have like a fun time out so it's like i don't know it was never like i like to visit and i was like oh let's go to dinner let's have like a fun time out so it's like i don't know it's never like i like to go out i like to like experience the city you know it's so funny like i'm here like on a vacation too so let me enjoy it like everything

was always like on the cheap with him i was like no let's go with you or something like the hotel and i had to drag him out there he was like no we're only staying for like one drink i was like you're fucking boring like how fun is it dude and he thought with his mom or something i don't know she was more fun than him i was bored i was always in the apartment like but what the hell scene of him in the bathroom waiting for you when you get back you were hanging out with his mom it doesn't matter remember the dates because there really wasn't any it was like the little local thai restaurant or like you know the shish kebab place because we like that kind of food but it was like you know it was never like a nice romantic thing you know or a fun night out did you guys date in

high school at all or no uh no, not in high school, but in college we started going to the prom together. Yeah, that's sweet. We had boyfriends. We liked boys. We had crushes, but like they never liked us back. So we just we just were shy. We just we want to hang out and

like go to the movies with our dad or go to dinner. Mom bought us the same freaking identical dress. Yeah. Was that like was were you okay with that are you like we're individuals we want something different it was like a like a black little poofy like dress and then she did our hair and plucked our eyebrows and put makeup on us you know like it was like her type of makeover but we were like no that's not us yeah senior junior i don't know i think that was our senior prom of makeover, but we were like, no, that's not us. Yeah. Senior or junior? I don't know. I think that was our senior prom.

I don't know. But when we went to college, our first year, that's when we were like, okay. You know, we started doing our own hair and makeup. I remember in our yearbook, they were like, what's your dream job? We always studied dance and stuff like that. So, I was like, oh, I want to be like a fly girl. Yeah, we wanted to be fly girls. We were like, we'd go home, wash home, watch them look in color all the time.

J-Lo. J-Lo, that was like my dream job. J-Lo in color. So we wanted to wear the jean shorts and combat boots and like little tops. Fly girl. And then in college, they used to have these dances at this little club. I mean, it was like 18 and up, but I would always be the first one on the dance floor. And then, yeah, I was my own little.

Over the bikini contest. J-Lo. Yeah. Oh, I was my own little... Remember the Akini contest? Yeah. Then we worked at Hooters. You worked at Hooters? Yeah, New York. I went to New York City. What was it like working at Hooters? Tell me about that. It was fun. We met a lot of people. It wasn't weird.

It was good money at the time. We were in Lee Strasberg. We went to acting school there. It was a side job that we had to make extra cash living in the city was in the hospital like sloan kettering at the time so we would work and we would go visit him in the hospital he'd be like you'd be like go wash your hands like yeah because you know yeah so you know we lived in the city for a while i lived lived there 11 years. I was calling my son. It's really interesting because I feel like some people might look at you too and be like, oh, you're like overnight sensations or you're like, you were like plucked out of obscurity.

But it seems like you guys have like really prepared to have a career in entertainment. Like you went to acting school and whatnot. Like that's really cool. Or like, you know, and goal, but we've always been creative. We always wanted to, you know, do things in the industry. You know, we did study, you know, dramatic arts, we studied dance, we played tennis, like we traveled a lot. Like it was just part of our soul a little bit.

You know, we just felt like we needed to tell our story and you know the 90 day thing came about just randomly because we've been in the industry way before all of that and it was just like oh let's see that sounds fun you know it's it's interesting you know we have relationships you know how bad could that be and then here we are today but you know regardless of anything we're still in the industry you know we still make songs we still make songs we still do um you know the fashion stuff and everything like that so it's it's part of our blood you know and it runs in our family too we have a lot of people in the industry as well so you know our cousin she's been in the music industry a very long time. Our cousin produces music.

So I feel like it's just a part of all of us. So I'm wishing and that we're just vastly grateful for the opportunity we got from the show. You know, it's just all the relationships that I've been in haven't been the right ones, you know. So, well, I feel like you're on your way to finding something. I do think you're like truly a delight. So, OK, I don't know if you can say it, but are you and Georgie still together or? Georgie and I are no longer together. OK.

I feel good about that decision. I think it was the right decision for me. I don't know what the future holds, but I feel I'm excited to discover more of who I am as a person and what I want in a relationship, the relationship. And I'm just not going to settle anymore. You know, it's not a bad guy, you know, you know, it's just, you know, there's a friendship, but it's just, I just needed to separate and create boundaries for myself. So when I do find the right person for me, it's just going to flow in the way that it needs to flow without any toxicity or anything like that.

Yeah, I think that's smart because, yeah, you deserve the world. You deserve someone who treats you the way that you want to be treated and love you the way that you want to be loved. So, Stacey, I don't know if it was, like, rehashed on cameras or, like, you had, like like solved it before you started shooting Florian, like flirting with the lady on Instagram. Was that something that happened currently? So many years ago, it was like the woman was actually a fan of ours. She's a fan of mine.

And then she'd always DM me like, you know, seemed cool. So, you know, we get skin with your routine like always messages like oh like i love your fashion brand and tell me more about like there was no bad blood it was just like a normal like a person and i think even we were like florian add this girl she's cool she's like you know because she said she modeled in albania a lot yeah and he was starting to model or something. Right, right. So she just was in Albania one day and called me and said, oh, this is girl's code. But like, is it possible I could do a photo shoot with Florian? And I was like, I mean, I don't care. I don't, I mean, you know, you're a model.

Sure, why not? You're a model. It wasn't a big deal. I didn't think anything of it. But. They're both models. I guess, you know, they met up and, you know, that's a model. It wasn't a big deal. I didn't think anything of it, but they're both models, I guess, you know, they met up and, you know, that's kind of how it started. And she took, she kept taking selfies

of him and they, you know, she was already blasting it and it was already in the media way before it was said her phone got hacked or something. And then somehow the photos got online and obviously she wanted to be part of our life. She wanted to be a part of what we had going on. I really think she was a fan for a reason because she was trying to find a way to get on the

show somehow yeah any show 90 days before he even said they had a conversation and she was like how do i get on pillow talk and all these other shows and he's like that's what are you talking about this there's a lot of people out there that's happened to me multiple times wanted with other people you don't know who to trust yeah you gotta be careful if you're a public figure who to trust who not to trust because most of them are looking i just think she's upset because her storyline didn't really go too far but she's the one that put the photos out there and it looks very like it looks very like preconceived like like she but it was very hurtful and it took us a while to like get back on track but we're good now and actually it made us

stronger and people if they don't believe us that we're stronger that's okay but we know and we've been together seven years we had never broken up you know yeah he did wrong but we worked it through you know we're good you know

we don't even really think about her like every time I get tense because it's just like that. So wait in the past. And I'm like, I'm not trying to, you know, give her give her that energy. So I know that's what she wants and we're not going to give it to her. So stop talking about it. OK, summed it up in a nice way. Yes. Yes. Thank you for answering. I do appreciate it. Real quick. We have Thank you for answering. I do appreciate it. Real quick.

We have to take another break. So do you are you guys involved with your like kids dating lives? Do you give them advice like or do you just stand back and let it happen well the kids are very social in school they have lots of friends they go to a lot of activities and stuff and of course you know if they're talking with someone we want to know you know everything's very monitored and just you know make sure that they're in good hands and they're not in a relationship that for them to be used because especially white girls are public figures now too and it's like you know like friends trying to come up oh when did you meet this friend you, they are in a new school now. So it took them a minute to find close friends. They still have friends from their old school, but you know, they,

I just want to keep them safe. And it's just me, my sister, my dad that are making sure that they're, they're in good hands when it comes to relationships and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Same with her boys. Yeah. My oldest son is in college and, you know, he's 18 and my youngest is 17. So, you know, I'm always there for them to support them. You know, they call me all the time, you know, their personal life, but they are very private. They chose not to call and they're just more of the private. And I respect that they got so much going on with their, you know, their lives that, you know, just there for them. Do you two have similar love languages or do you think you have different love languages?

Yeah, I think we have different love languages. Definitely. Yeah. It's always been like that. I feel like for me, my love language is, you know, you know, being treated out and feeling like doted over and special. And I feel like Florian really does that, you know, he really takes good care of me, you know, not, you know, I'm not always just, just, we know how to love each other the way that makes us you know happier oh yeah he's the older soul she wants to be joded over like she's the younger

partner and i noticed that yeah he's very affectionate very interesting dynamic yeah but it's definitely not you know obviously we both date younger guys but you know of course you want to feel like you're being swept off the feet and and care of but after seven years and he still does that i mean that goes to show he's not just in it for money or fame and a green card like he's proved himself that he's here for love yeah for for me my love language is um you know I know there's a few of them. I think you only can have one, really. But I don't know.

I'll let you guys know. So when did you guys start dating younger men? I always have, really. My ex-husband was younger. LA. LA, Los Angeles. After the divorce. No, my ex-husband was younger. So I don't know. Yeah.

We have a very youthful, young kind of spirit. Yeah. Look at energy and vibe. People don't really believe our age anyway. So the older guys aren't really attracted to us. I think it's the younger guys that we're attracted to. No, they're attracted. I'm not saying they're not attracted. I'm saying the guys that would approach us are always, you know, a little younger than us. So I've always gotten both, but I was always more social than she was. So, you know, I think I've had more. No, that's not true. I'm social too. It's just, you know, my social is different than

your social. Yeah. Well, you know, I think I have more dating experience even though she had longer lasting relationships. I'll say that. I don't always, I don't stick around for too long. That's okay. If it's good, then I'll stick around. Yeah, I've dated a lot of younger guys.

LA, I've dated this guy, Tyler, who was a supermodel that lasted a year. We're still good friends to this day. He's cool. He's still a friend of mine and still very nice. And you never know what the future holds. Yeah, do you think you're going to, like,

rekindle any old relationships? Possibly. Never know. Is there anything that happened like behind the scenes that was just like really funny that didn't make it onto the show oh the time oh my gosh i'm gonna think a lot of funny stuff we're actually very comedic and kind of like we have good timing and stuff and just random shit happens all the time there's so many things. Especially with Raina and Deb. Oh my god. We have the best time. Season one we were filming

the spray tan scene. We had the whole tarp. We were pushing each other around on the tarp. It was just crazy fun stuff. So she made it like a veil before you got buried. The tarp on the vent. It was just funny stuff.

It has to make sense. But we do have a lot of those scenes on the van. Yeah, which is like funny stuff. But it has to make sense. But we do have a lot of those scenes inside the episode that they show on Discovery+. If you guys want to watch that after our show, you can log on to Discovery and see all the inside the episodes where you didn't get to see certain footage. A lot of it's the funny stuff.

Those were really amazing to film. What you didn't get to see was and then we'll show that. Oh, okay. Well, I guess I'll have to watch that. You guys did like a whole other show. It's a whole other thing. It's a whole other show.

It's all the behind the scenes stuff that the juicy gossip and the juicy stuff that you really want to know. So like five, six minutes each on the TLC Go app. You can watch it yeah discovery plus and discovery plus yes uh i love that's a what a what a nice integration promotional thing i'm i am gonna watch it probably after this but you guys did a butt thing that like zapped your butt and it was like it was like doing a thousand squats or whatever did it really hurt and did it actually help your butt? Well, M sculpt, uh,

we actually did it on our stomach before and we wanted to try it on our butt. And yeah, it feels like you're getting like little like tricks. It's really about working smarter, not harder. And you know, we don't always have time to go to the gym.

So this machine is like doing 20,000 squats and like, yeah. So that's like months in the gym. So why not one session? Yeah. Does it feel the best, but it feels like you're being, you know, zapped. There's different frequencies of that. So you go higher or low. We wanted the high. Cause we thought it was like, you know, more bang for a buck, but you know, you have to do it. You have to go on sessions. You have to do like a package, like at least five. But yeah, definitely. Hey, you see the difference.

You only got to go for like an hour. You can do it on a nap. Get a dinner out, a six-pack abs. Hey, I like it. Yeah, you feel a little tight down there. It's like inside the muscle. I don't know. Not the skin.

People don't understand. Like the skin is still the skin. It's like, you know. It's like allergy. You know, everything is 20-20. I'll use it. There's so many things that you could do like you know if you don't have time just do the m sculpt you know yeah it was it was interesting to try so what is next for you guys next is i don't know we'll see i mean hopefully there's always something going on in our world

it's called the never ending story. True. Well, that was our first fashion show in New York city. Our, the theme was never ending story for house of 11. So we're looking to expand the company. And, you know, just really, really get a new sense and vibe because we're really into like scents and smells and, and, and home good items. like scents and smells and, and, and, um, home good items that make your home feel very fashionable and homey and eclectic and nice. So we're really into that right now. And hopefully we get a new

season. Hopefully we get to, you know, share more of our story and our journey. We've been doing a lot of women empowerment, um, Elena Cardone and her team 10 X. It was amazing. We did the gifting for house of 11 for that event. Got asked to speak at the next event. So, you know, we just really are surrounding ourselves with positive, powerful women and people. And yeah, I think you're looking to elevate, elevate. Yeah. It's just about elevating. You know, we have one life. We have to live it to the fullest. And I feel like it rolls over to other people. So if we can, you know, share that and, you know, include everybody, you know, like she

has her company grown here in Miami and the first organic food chain. So we go into events for her. Yes. We've been doing events with our cousin Shannon, who is super powerful and amazing and talented and smart and successful. Amazing mother. We're just, you know, yeah, leveling up. So Darcy, are you going to like take a break from dating or are you back in it?

No, I'm happy to be single trust me and i'm happy ready to be single ready to mingle too because 47 i don't need to wait i'm still loving myself at the same time but i don't have to stick to a relationship that doesn't serve me anymore any x1 aids i can meet anybody in the in the world i can meet someone in new york miami la and a lot of things you're a fans from all over the world and people like to hang out too so i'm a very social person i don't mind meeting up hanging out going out maybe other fans maybe i'll talk to maybe you know there's different ways to date you know i don't have to just be stuck in one relationship i feel like you know we moved

really really fast because of COVID and that kind of accelerated our relationship at the time and maybe we moved too fast in the beginning that's why it didn't work but I'm different my love language is I'm ready to you know just just go for it you know love myself first and see what else is out there you know yeah I love. Mm-hmm. I love that. And I feel like you guys do a lot of self-care. What kind of advice would you have for someone

who's like, I don't know how to self-care. So like, how do you guys do that? Well, you know, for me, you know, we like to do our treatments and stuff, drink lots of water.

You know, when we travel, you get very puffy and dehydrated. So we definitely have to self-care just at our age. And our diet had to change big time and just eating a nice leafy green kale salad or something like I am like, and love it though. It's like at grown Shannon's restaurant, I was like kale salad.

Almost like, yeah, guys, you have to check it out. Grown. So changing our eating habits had to be one of the first things i did for myself you know i needed to old to bring in the new and i wanted i just kept seeing like visualizing eating like healthy crunchy veggies like less less meat and stuff like that um more waters um and and just fresh food organic because we've been reacting a lot. Reacting our gluten or something. Puffy and acid reflux. So we keep trying to figure out. Because our cousin Chantel

will probably learn to do gluten. She has to change her diet over the years. That's why she learned a lot from her. We've been loving them kale salads. Thank you, Shannon. Self-care is eating right. You know, those leafy greens and all that because we were when you're filming when you're filming we're living on red bull and

like you know we didn't want to eat all the time because we're like you know we just want to like just we you need to i mean they feed you good but a lot of carbs you know we always we always chose the stuff that'll fill you up but it's like it really makes you feel sluggish and bloated and puffy. That's probably why, you know. Well, we had over the years, we've had up and down bad eating habits. And so people can see if they Google us like 10 years. Yeah. We look different, but it's like, you know, we're also 47 and taking care of your mind,

you know, meditating, stuff. Yes. Stuff like that. It's important. When we were in Turkey at night to help me relax, we would listen to those, you know, meditation, like, sounds and stuff like that. Just simple little things like that. Just to even, like, help you sleep and rest. Yeah. Me and Florin, we listen to meditation at night before we go to bed. You know, whether it's the sound of the ocean or the rain.

It's the sense. It easers our mind and we wake up happy and we go to bed how to attract your senses things to do to attract your senses eating better smelling like nice scents like oils um you know water just drink you know stuff like that you know we're not it's but, you know, we're trying to fix it. You know, every it's the baby steps, you know, so it lasts. Yeah, I think that's like really great advice. I also just love you, too, because you really just seem like you're living your best fucking lives.

We're trying, trying. Definitely. Well, we've come to the end. Is there anything like any other advice that you want to give my listeners just keep your eyes on the prize guys we love you thank you for the love and support stacy and i are always going to be here for each and every one of you guys and you know what let's all get to the top of that mountain let's meet each other at the top we got this let's do it big i love it oh wait i do want to ask you

guys something before we uh we like get off or whatever um the song it's called doing it big when did you guys get into music and you have two songs we do we did doing it big music um we started when we started limit entertainment with the movies with the white tea soundtrack so the white tea soundtrack we did a song um we had multiple you know artists on it as well but we decided to do a song so we paired up with a producer friend of ours executive produced it so we were like we added the and we loved that because it was like we didn't know this was like over 10 years ago, guys. We've had that song for White Tea, our music, produced back in the day.

Actually, that song was on the Kardashians, too. Kylie Jenner's 16, because we're some ass cat. So like 30 seconds of it was on. So we made friends with a few producers in LA and we actually done a couple, one with Freddie Roan, who's worked with amazing. We've done a couple songs with Freddie, actually.

But Locker Number was the last one we've done. Yeah. I mean, we're not trained in singing, but it's something we love to do because it's like a release for us. And we love being creative. We did a ballad for our brother. Michael call was in the heart.

That was the very first one we did in Connecticut. And we, like we said, we do it for fun. We do it just for a release, like energy wise. And Hey, we got another one fun. We do it just for a release, like energy wise. And hey, we got another one maybe that we're thinking about in the works with our cousin Julian. So, you know.

That's exciting. I can't wait to hear it because I like that song. And I liked it when you guys performed it on. What was it? 90 Day Bears All. It was such a fun performance. That was very acapella. Yeah.

We did it in the studio with some other we had fun with it we're in la we're like who cares like we love we love doing we got up as long as we were we were dolled up we felt good we were like dancing karaoke yeah i don't know she gets us we love being on sean's show. She gets us. She gets the personality. And, you know, we're blessed to be able to do that on her show. Do you think you're going to ever do, like, live performances? I mean, I don't know. We haven't yet.

We got to do a little practice. We got to practice a little bit first. We only had, like, one or two takes of it. But, you know, they had a show to bring. Yeah, that would be definitely fun, you know. If we did something like that, we'd want to do it

for, like, charity or, you know, something. Mm-hmm. Yeah, to give back. Maybe do, like, a fun little club appearance and make it better and stuff. You know, it'd be fun.

I'd love to be there. Because actually, both of those songs, Lock Your Numbers, somebody called me and messaged me on DM. They downloaded the song. They're from Canada, actually.

And then someone else, they bought it. They would always send me videos of them, like, singing in their cars. They remixed it in the club. I said that we were remixing some club. I was like, oh, okay, some big club. It was like in New York or something. I forget which one, but I don't know. You're doing it big.

I didn't realize it. We're sitting on millions and millions of dollars. We don't know people you're doing it big i didn't realize it's sitting on millions and millions of dollars yeah who's getting the itunes money i don't know i don't even figure that shit out well thank you guys so much for doing this i really appreciate it um you don't have new episodes airing right now but if you want to see Darcy and Stacey, I recommend it. It is on Discovery Plus. It's on TLC Go. They rerun it on TLC. I think you should watch it.

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Doing it big. Yay! Thank you for having us. Thank you. So beautiful. What a treat. That's it for Why Won't You Date Me? With me, Nicole Byer. Why Won't You Date Me? is produced and engineered by oh, the sweetest woman I know, Marissa Melnick. It is executive produced by other wonderful people, Adam Sachs, Joanna Solo-Taroff, and Jeff Ross. Thanks for listening. I love you. Thank you so much.

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