Wild Times: Wildlife Education - 100 New Species Found in Deep Sea - The Wild Times Ep. 140
Episode Date: March 18, 2024Over 100 new species have been discovered in the deep sea off the coast of Chile, a real dragon stopped a housing development in Australia, and we play a fun new game called Dinosaur or Muscle. Enjoy!... Prize Picks: First deposit match up to $100 https://prizepicks.com/wild Mint Mobile Terms: $45 upfront payment required (equivalent to $15/mo.). New customers on first 3-month plan only. Speeds slower above 40GB on Unlimited plan. Additional taxes, fees, & restrictions apply. See Mint Mobile for details. https://www.mintmobile.com/wildtimes Rocket Money: Cancel unwanted subscriptions https://rocketmoney.com/wildtimes Get 4 More Ad-Free Podcasts Every Month: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wildtimespod/subscribe https://www.patreon.com/wildtimespod/ Visit https://thewildtimespodcast.com/ now! Join The Wild Times Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ytzKBbC9Db Get your Wild Times Podcast merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch Enjoy, brosteners! TWT 140 - The Breakdown 00:00 - Intro 01:20 - Skunk issue 05:00 - Rabbies 07:37 - Over 100 New Deep Sea Species Found 13:47 - Cartoons Used To Be Insane 17:08 - Mountain Men Back in the Day/Fur Trapped 21:51 - John Colter's Run 30:20 - Animal Sightings+Bug Assault 32:56 - Dragon Stalled Housing Development in Australia 36:10 - Crazy New Cities in the World 38:50 - Japan Diving Trip 44:18 - High Altitude Breathing + New Boots 48:10 - Dinosaur or Muscle? 1:06:37 - Outro Jingles made by: www.soundcloud.com/mimmkey https://www.newbelgium.com/beer/fat-tire/ #wildtimespod #podcast
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Great show today and a piece of news I'm really excited about.
A hundred new species have been discovered.
A dragon.
A real dragon.
Stopped a housing development in Australia.
And maybe the funnest new game we've ever played on the pod.
Let's get into it.
Coming your way.
Oh, yeah.
Let's start with the outro music.
That's right.
All right.
Good night, everybody.
Good night, everybody.
Welcome.
All right.
Let's do an episode backwards.
It's like that one Seinfeld episode.
Oh, that's interesting.
Well, Kyle fucked up.
Yeah.
But, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Welcome, everybody.
I was ready to sign off.
Yeah.
I was.
Finish my beer.
Absolutely.
Ready for a nap.
All right.
Well, welcome to the Wild Times podcast.
I'm your host, Forrest Galante, the broologist.
On my right, Papa P himself.
What's up, buddy?
Big size.
How are you?
Just, that was more of like a refreshing.
It was.
That's true.
Refreshing fat tire.
Happy to be here, man.
I'm gonna blow your mind about that sigh after I introduce the professor, PhD in podcasting, Mr. Ritap.
Yeah, I don't really do any of the PhDing anymore, but I will say, Kyle slept here again.
He's dedicated to his craft.
I think he lives here.
I'm telling you, I got a camera here.
I've seen him come in and out and just comes in here and wax it.
You've seen him come.
Got it.
Yay!
Do you know why A is the first letter of the alphabet?
Because it's like the easiest sound to make.
Ah, ah.
The real thing, Kyle can look it up for us.
That sound that you just made, that, that refreshing ah sound is where A became the first letter
of the alphabet in the English language.
Because it's the most natural sound that we make.
Interesting.
Sure.
Is that ah, which is why A is the first letter.
Well, also what you say when you like whack your finger.
Ah, yeah.
If you, uh, also if you pay attention to your kids, they just say anything with the
ah.
It's like mama, dad das, sabbat.
Like anything.
Those are M's and D's, but yes.
No, no, the A, the A.
You moron.
Dude, I asked my buddy, I was like, hey, do you see anything in your four-year-old that's, like, definitively from you?
And he's like, yeah, deep sighing.
Oh, interesting.
He's like, I'm just constantly sighing around the house.
I saw a funny meme about a dog doing a deep sigh.
And it's like, what do you, the dog has nothing to worry about it, wakes up, gets fed, and slyes on the couch and then looks at you and goes,
Yeah.
So, uh, I talked about how I have a skunk issue.
And I've gotten to the bottom of it.
Uh-oh.
And it's created a real problem for me.
Okay.
Tell us more.
So I heard a bunch of scurring around.
Like, it sounded like it was like in my fucking ceiling.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Not good.
It is.
It's in the ceiling?
It fucking cl-so.
So I had an exterminator come.
No.
And he went up on the roof.
And there was like a little tiny gap where like two joists or whatever met.
Okay.
And this, and there's a ton of skunk poop on the roof next to it.
Uh-oh.
Wow.
And the skunk had like picked away, picked away and made a little hole.
Oh.
And got into my ceiling.
He's got a purge.
How did you know it was a skunk and like not some of their animal?
I didn't suspect.
I didn't put two and two together.
I thought it was probably like a rat or a fucking.
But didn't you see it?
Didn't you see a spotted skunk or something?
I had seen the skunk, but I wasn't like, oh, that's the thing that's in my ceiling two weeks
later.
Yeah.
So they're crafty.
They're crafty little bastards.
So when I, when I first moved into my house a couple years ago, in the wall behind my
bed, there was lots of fucking scurrying going on.
And I'm just like, well, yeah, of course rats.
And like, I called a bunch of exterminators.
It was going to cost me $600, right?
And then one day, instead of scurrying, I realized that the scurrying is flapping of wings.
There was a, there was a bird in there, birds of some type.
Inside the wall?
In the wall.
And so I myself, like, I was like, I'm going to figure this out.
I'm going to be able to find.
I found where they're going in, dude.
and I waited because the other thing I noticed
was it always went away during the day
and then they'd come back at night.
So it was bats. No, no.
Well, it could be bats. You're right.
So you have no idea what the end of your story is.
No, I do. If you would shut up, I'll finish it.
So I went and got some of that, you know,
that foam stuff that hardens and cracks.
I found where it was going in
and during the day when it was gone, I filled it in,
never came back, never been so proud of myself, dude.
Good job. I say myself like,
six, seven hundred bucks, these exterminators.
There you go.
Yeah.
You know how I would have handled that?
You would have knocked down the wall and
I would have got a new one?
You would have charged to the wall like the Kool-Aid guy.
Those are both good ideas.
I would have just gotten and bought a big python and released him in the wall.
Oh, that's smart.
But like I now have a python in the wall.
Yeah, that's cool.
So a buddy of mine, he lives in the Northeast, good friend from high school.
Got out of his, was working until the evening.
Lives in Connecticut now.
Okay.
got out of his car, parked in front of his garage, and a bat flew into the back of his head.
No way.
Just nailed him.
Just fucking pinged him in the back of the head.
So he goes inside.
He's a bit of a nervous Nelly.
Goes inside.
And he asks his wife, he's like, can you look at my head?
See if it's bleeding.
Like, did it bite me?
I don't know.
Right.
No blood.
So if that happened to you, what would you do?
Just go to bed?
Yeah.
His wife convinced him to go to the ER.
Oh, God.
Oh, my God.
Get rabies shots and shit.
Well, he goes to the ER and they're like, yeah, it didn't bite you.
But if it's saliva, like something about the saliva, they're like, you need to get rabies shots.
Oh, God.
So now it's like 9 o'clock at night and he had to get rabies shots.
And he has to go back again because he's a big guy and get more rabies shot.
I'm pretty sure rabies is a three-dose course.
It's based on your weight.
Yeah.
I'd have to do 10.
And it's incredibly expensive too.
Kyle, look this up quickly.
Google, how much does it cost to get rabies shots?
It's like massively expensive.
How many times have you had to get them?
Zero.
BTG's gotten like 10 rounds of rabies shots.
Never got them once.
Interesting.
Oh, never mind.
I'm way off.
$40 to $75 per dose.
Oh, that's for dogs.
Oh, yeah.
No, look for humans.
I'm sure it's like massively expensive.
Yeah.
I mean, it's wild, dude.
Yeah.
Between $3,000 and $7,000.
for a shot.
The problem with rabies is that the doctor just goes like, it's a small chance, but if you
have it, you're, you die.
You're just going to take these giant needles.
I've never, never gotten it.
It's very rare, dude, but I've watched a video of somebody with rabies and the, the, uh,
somebody or an animal?
No, no, a person.
They have it on tape.
It's like in black and white.
And, uh, it's on YouTube.
It's, it's frightening, dude.
the guy is terrified of water.
Yeah.
Will not drink it.
Yeah.
And like how crazy is it that this illness can affect your brain so much that you genuinely
become terrified of water, of swallowing your own spit?
It's like the new movie where the cortisps take over your brain.
Yeah.
Dude.
I've been seeing,
I've been seeing cordyceps and other mushrooms that take over bodies of insects everywhere now.
It's a thing.
It's, well, it's trendy.
Yeah, it's a very popular series about it.
Last of us.
All right.
Well, speaking of being afraid of water,
what if I told you in some news here?
Okay.
That recently scientists discovered a hundred,
not one,
100 new species in the deep ocean.
I'd hate it.
I would just be like,
you're lying next.
Hey, can we get our jingle?
Come on, Kyle.
What's been the news?
Sorry.
He's just trying to sign off every chance.
This is crazy.
What are you doing?
It's a nightmare.
He played two jingles at once.
I honestly think he got hammered last night
He's still fucked up.
Dude, he did for sure.
What's in the news?
All right, so what's going on with the story?
Over 100 never-beforeseen species discovered along deep sea mountain range, which is pretty exciting.
Yeah, I just like knowing there's a deep sea mountain range.
Isn't that nice?
Yeah.
So this underwater mountain range off the Chilean coast was recently explored by a team of scientists.
They used ROVs, which are remote underwater vehicles, to explore the depths up to, I think it was 15,000 or so feet down.
So really, really deep.
Yeah.
What's Mariana's trench?
Like 30,000?
I'm not sure, but it's pretty deep.
And yeah, while they were down there poking around, they found some sea mounts.
And as we've talked about on this spot a number of time, sea mounts are extinct volcanoes
that often still have hydrothermal energy and can create entire ecosystems around that
hydrothermal energy.
And in exploring these ecosystems, they found over a hundred new species that were
previously undocumented.
So yeah, it's ongoing because they're still finding stuff.
But so far, Kyle, maybe you can pull this up.
They found a little like a frogfish or a toad fish, bright red.
Look at that thing.
Yeah, look at that.
And so these frogfish are really interesting animals.
That one looks hairy, which is incredible.
Yeah.
But see how they use their pectoral fins down below?
They use them as feet.
So they actually walk around the sea floor using those pectoral fins.
And then scroll down, Kyle, if I remember correctly, there's some crustaceans.
Wow.
Yeah, what's this guy?
A shrimp, a squat lobster.
Dude, that is so cool looking.
So basically, it's an underwater mountain range and then like up on the peaks of the mountains is where they found this shit?
Not really on the peaks, just sort of scattered throughout their events.
And what's cool is when you think about it, like imagine a volcano.
You can see the plume of smoke from miles away.
You can't obviously don't have that much visibility in the deep ocean, but they spot these plumes basically of hot water.
And then they go and explore around them.
And yeah, all of these new species of coral, new squid.
species, like, I'm sure those urchin are
undescribed. It's basically all new stuff.
Like, everything they're finding. Look at that freaking fish.
Dude, this is crazy. And how they have
like HD video of it is amazing.
Look at that. Go back to that. I know.
Go back. Look at that fucking lab, dude.
I was going to say that's the nicest video village I've ever
seen. Ever. Ever. Remember when we
used ROVs to like find turtles and stuff?
You got like one crappy little screen. Nothing
works. Oh, and we had to like,
yeah, we had to watch it after we pulled the
radio out. Yeah. Is that like a squid?
Dumbo Octopus.
Dumboh octopus.
I mean, the reason that this type of story has been on the pot a few times is basically just every time we send something down there, we find new shit.
Anytime we can find, because the deep ocean's a desert.
Most of it's just sand and nothing.
But anytime you can find one of these areas, it's a beacon for life, it's just covered.
Kyle, go back to that video for a second.
I want to, we're going to play a little game here.
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Why do you think it's called a Dumbo octopus?
I mean, are those its ears?
Because it's got ears?
That's what they named it after, right?
Remember Dumbo, the giant flying elephant?
Very depressing story that I read to my child.
Unbelievably depressing.
Hit play, though. Watch how it uses its ear flaps, whatever.
you want to call it to swim like Dumbo.
Oh, wow. Yeah, that is fun.
Yeah.
Octopus, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sad story, though.
I was reading that to my kid and I realized like, Jesus Christ, like all these kids' stories
are so sad. Dude, the Disney that we grew up with, it's funny because I put on Disney Plus
for my son all the time now. Yeah. And it's all like, we're friends. Let's work together.
Hey, hey. You know, like, let's be happy. Diversity and love and, you know, like all these things that
are great messages.
Dude, go watch the fucking Lion King or Dumbo or Bambi or some of the shit we grew up with.
It's like...
The mom or dad always dies or gets taken away, dude.
I still cry if I watch Dumbull.
I can't watch it.
It's insane.
It's insane.
It dies immediately.
Immediately.
Oh, God.
Yeah, that's why our generation's so fucked up.
And these next kids are just like, everything's happy.
It's nice.
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I think the kids below us, everybody listening to this podcast and I'm about to offend.
They're the worst.
What?
And then...
The ones that can't make a phone call and just text?
Exactly. Dude, we just had a whole Greg left us. Yeah. The people that just cannot, cannot make a phone call. They send an email or text go, I didn't hear back.
Dude. Pick up the phone. Just pick up the phone. Also, it's such an easy advantage to have to get ahead in life for that generation. To just make phone calls?
Just make phone calls instead of fucking texting or sending an email. I would be shocked if it happened. But this guy's got gusto.
No, you know what's interesting though? I'll stop making fun of making jokes, making fun. Seriously, I've been coaching this under 18.
youth rugby program for 10 years now, right?
This is the 10th year we've been doing it.
And it's so interesting.
When I started doing it,
there were a lot of kids who were like rough and tumble,
very like trouble forward.
You know, like getting into juvie, drugs, drinking, all of that stuff.
Then I, then it went to, the way we were.
Yeah.
Then it went through this next generation of like kids that were much softer,
but like still played rugby hard.
And they like were much more selective.
about the things they were hard about,
but they thought they were grown up,
which was really interesting.
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I don't know how you want to classify it.
Call it three years each, but six years ago,
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as like 25-year-olds.
They didn't think of themselves as 17 and 18-year-olds.
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most in line.
They're all just a joy to be.
be around. None of them have big attitudes. Some of them have egos because they're good athletes,
but they don't have like bad attitudes. It's like something switched again where kids are
acting like kids and being nicer. It's really interesting. I will say, dude, you know, we were jerks.
Like my generation was, you know, 18, 19, whatever, were jerks. Yeah, me too.
heinous. We're mean to each other. Haneus. We're mean to adults. Didn't thought adults were morons.
Yeah. And I will say like I see it with my nephew and like one of my friends who has a kid that's like
20, whatever. They're like cool. They're very polite. They're nice. They're engaging. They don't think
everything's stupid. Yeah. Do you remember they do a great job in 21, uh, no, is it 21 jump street? What's the
one where Channing Tatum? Yeah. Goes back to high school. And it's all about not caring about
anything. That's exactly how high school was for me. If you cared about anything, you were such a loser.
Totally. Yeah. And that's like just not the case. It's funny. That is the plot of the movie is he goes
back to high school and he acts like he did when he was in high school. But the kids are like,
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
They're like, what a weirdo.
So I was in yesterday.
I took a little puddle jumper, tiny little plane, small flight.
Your favorite.
I love those.
No anxiety, I take it.
Well, the fucking airport is just a room with a vending machine for sodas.
So that wasn't even a bar.
So it took this little puddle jump over the Rocky Mountains.
Beautiful.
Low altitude, though.
You know, we didn't go up to 30,000 feet.
We were like, I don't know how high we were.
Well, the peaks, a lot of those.
Those peaks are like four, so we were probably at 20.
Okay.
But like maybe only five, six thousand feet above the peaks.
I'm just guessing, right?
Sure, sure.
But we're just flying over the Rockies for like most of this 50 minute flight.
And you're just seeing just the mountains and the crevasses and where all the snow collects in the valleys.
And I was just, and it was endless.
It's fucking endless.
And then pine forests that go up one slope.
And it's just such wildly differing terrain.
Sounds incredible.
And it was beautiful, actually.
And I was thinking about like the original mountain men, you know, like the Jim Bridgers and the, who's the Colter.
Yeah, William Coulter.
I know.
I think it was John Coulter.
John Coulter.
Yeah.
John Coulter.
Yes.
Yes.
But just thinking about these guys that would basically get paid, you know, like the original
mountain men were sort of typically like leading groups of fur trapper.
Because fancy people in New York City and Boston and Philly wanted fur hats.
Who doesn't want to?
Coonskin hat. Yeah, exactly. But so I was just thinking about like these guys who are just
exploring these mountain ranges that are endless. Yeah, man. And just the shit on your back and what
you can shoot with your rifle. And it's like a one way trip too. Because it's just like we're
going in. I don't know when we're turning around. I don't know how much fur we'll get. I don't
know how much meat will get, whatever. And then we'll just turn back out. Trailblazers, man.
So not to S your D, but you're, you know, you're a good survivalist and a very competent outdoorsman.
and in shape,
would you,
like,
would you tackle something like that?
Like,
do you think you're hard enough
to do that?
Uh,
just go one way through the Rockies
in the modern world.
Like in Papua New Guinea
where it's never been traveling.
Let me,
I want to,
I want to answer this in two ways.
Yes,
by modern standards.
No by original standards.
Sure, sure.
Can I do that today?
Absolutely.
I got my in-reach.
I got my GPS.
I got my Leatherman tools.
You know,
I'm fucking.
nice tent decked out.
Like whatever. If there's problem, I send a message.
Somebody helicopters me, no problem.
And I'm still, by the way, still considering myself, like, I'm pretty hard.
Like, I'll go for a while.
That's a whole different thing to, hey, I'm heading into the Rockies in the dead of winter
to look for a moose.
You know what I mean?
It's like, that's a fucking whole different ballgame.
You know, I always think about when I'm driving, I'm, you know, through whatever
mountain range going from here to Chicago, you go through, I think it is the Rockies.
Right?
It would be.
In Colorado.
Colorado. Yeah. And I just think, like, man, the people that came through and like dynamited roads through these hillsides and through this.
That would have been so much fun. Dude, it's crazy. Like, how long would it take? Like, even in like Topanga or where it's actually really windy and shit, smaller roads, not like big highways. And they make these roads. And I'm always on them. And I'm thinking, man, like, it took so much manpower to create this little road to get like basically nowhere.
Yeah. Like up into this hillside where there's a couple houses or something.
I have a similar thought that I have quite often. Imagine you decide to head west.
Yeah. Like whatever the new, uh, was it 1883 or whatever? Yeah. Imagine you decide to head west.
You go all the way from the east coast and you make it to Palm Springs. And you're like,
fuck it. This is as far as we're going. There's just there's no coast. There's no ocean. There's nothing over there.
Fuck it. We're setting up camp right here in the desert and Palm Springs.
Springs. And literally it's like a couple little hills. And there's Eden, like San Diego,
Los Angeles Valley, like all perfect. And you're like, nope, this is it. We're putting down
roots. I'm not putting another day on the road. It's a, it's a testament to like persevering
through things. And just get that inch further. Just get that. Keep going. Can you imagine though?
And then somebody comes back, like the next wagon year comes by three months later. And they're
like, we're just going to keep going. You never see them again. And you're like,
fucking idiots. They died.
He's died in this awful desert
Can't go back
It's too far
There's nothing over those hills
Fuck this place
Yeah
It'll be while they're living in paradise
Yeah
This is so painful for me
So I texted Kyle to pull something up
I see it on the left side
All he has to do is click it
He's 20
And he has no idea how Wikipedia works
Yeah he's unfamiliar
If it's not chat GPT
He's never used it
Listen no I was gonna ask
Just because we've never talked about it
On the podcast
Do you know the story of Colter's run
John Colter?
I know who John Coulter is because of the
famous trails and everything else.
I'd love to hear it.
Well, I'm going to butcher it a little bit.
It's okay.
Let's do it.
But it's an interesting thing to.
Cheers to that.
Cheers.
Cheers to butchering facts.
Yeah, that's what we do here.
Somebody fact check us and just
make sure it in the comments.
Write a scathing comment about it.
Coulter was like the super fucking hard guy.
And so when Lewis and Clark were making their first expedition,
yeah, they were recruiting people and they signed Colter on
to be part of.
of the Lewis and Clark expedition.
And he was such a fucking badass
that they were, you know,
they were basically headed back to St. Louis
to present everything they'd found
on this big expedition.
And he, like, didn't want to go back to the city.
And they were like, all right, you're good.
Like, we'll cut you loose.
Oh, wow.
Where was this?
Like, what part of the world?
Still like in the fucking...
In the mountains somewhere.
Okay.
He's just like, fuck it.
I'm going to go on.
I'm just...
He was miserable.
To go back to St.
Louis.
to be in a city.
Yeah.
And so they like,
it was very unusual,
but they respected him so much.
They cut him loose.
But there's this famous thing called Colters Run where him and another guy after
the Lewis and Clark expedition in like 1808,
1809 were,
uh,
they were just like doing another exploration.
And they came,
they were kayaking down a river and they came across a group of 1,500 black feet.
Oh, wow.
Indigenous Americans, right?
Wow.
Sounds dangerous.
Yeah.
So he gets hit with a fucking arrow in the leg, Colter does.
Wow.
His other buddy gets hit, gets pulled ashore, and they hack up the body right in front of Coulter.
Jeez.
Right.
And so then there, but there was like some sort of like black feet like tradition thing where they would be like go.
And they would sometimes set someone loose.
And then have to like hunt them.
And then the young blackfeet warriors would let them get a certain head start and then chase them.
and it was like a right of passage
to be the one to kill them.
Yeah.
Sounds like a great movie.
Is that how he died?
He got away.
They actually made a movie
out of Colter's run.
Oh.
So they strip him down naked.
So he's buck naked,
no shoes.
Yeah.
And they're like, go.
And like there's like a hundred young warriors
that are going to chase him.
Waiting.
Yeah.
And so then they start doing the war cries,
whatever,
and then they're after him.
And he runs,
it's an insane amount.
Let's see.
How many days did he run for?
It's like 11 days.
It's something crazy.
Yeah.
And that he's, you know, being chased.
How do you think, so then eventually finds a natural feature to hide in and escapes and lives to tell the story.
Dude, that is incredible.
What would you think?
Where did you think he hit?
He's running along a river the whole time.
A bog.
Nope.
I mean, I want to say a cave, but that's too obvious.
No, he's running.
He's following a river.
So he's on a river completely.
What might you find if you're following a river?
to hide it? I mean a dead log. I don't fucking know.
What about a beaver? A beaver den? That's what he goes into.
Nice, dude.
Hit in the beaver lodge. They couldn't find him.
Waited until, you know, they were gone.
Yeah. Got up and still naked.
Kwecks out. Wow. What a badass. Yeah.
And that's a cool story. That's crazy too. That is a cool story.
A lot of people don't know this. And it might not be the Blackfoot tribe.
but Native Americans back then were pursuit hunters for the most part.
They used to run down deer and things like that.
So this was, I mean, you know, I don't want to butcher all the facts here,
but this was probably something that that tribe was doing as a means to teach them to be better hunters and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they were known for running down animals.
It's literally they run down deer.
They'd run for 10, 12 days to run down a deer.
Because we have the gift of endurance if our bodies are trained in the right way.
Exactly.
It's that perseverance.
talked about instead of stopping in Palm Desert, you find John Colter and you and you murder
that motherfucker.
You don't give up.
He's in a beaver dam for Christ's sake.
How embarrassed were their parents when they all came back?
They probably killed.
They're like, there was a hundred of you and he was naked.
Yeah.
And shoeless.
Like you're out.
You're your own tribe now.
Get out of here.
But how terrifying, man, if you were in his non-shoes, it would be, dude.
I mean, could you?
Nobody could nobody in today's world could survive that.
Not one single person.
No way.
No.
That's insane.
But that'd be kind of funny if it was like, like, you seen Bolt.
And they were like, here's your head start.
And then he's just like, pshund.
You're like, oh, fuck.
Yeah.
We should have killed that guy and made his friend run instead of going the other way around.
Oh, good time.
That would be a good reality show.
I mean, you could never make it.
But a good, like, competition show.
Yeah.
But not like, hunted.
Yeah.
You know, like, send the guy out there.
Maybe you just do it like they got to get the flags.
The flags on them.
They don't actually.
Flags.
No, come on, Peter.
You're so not a producer.
This is for network television.
No, you got to have like bows and arrows with like the paint, you know, like paint
exploding tips and spears that like poof color powder.
Why aren't you creating this show?
I'm creating it right now.
You both create shows.
We're doing it right now.
Live on air.
All right.
You have 10 people from 10 different backgrounds of hunting, fishing, tracking,
tracking, military.
Yeah.
And then one badass survival.
You can do it all. Do it all.
Ex special forces.
Like E.J. from
Survivor. No.
E.J.
from Naked and Afraid weighs about 340 pounds.
He's not outrunning anybody.
Not after he did the show he didn't.
No, that's true.
But no, you need somebody younger, fitter.
Like, dude, you get fucking, what's his name?
The guy on Rogan, the always suffer guy.
Oh, David.
No, Guggins.
David Gagins.
David Gagins.
Yeah.
Ex special forces never slows down.
Give him a call.
Blow a call in.
Strip Gaggans down to the buff and just be like, get them.
Yeah, that'd be fucking.
Dude, that's a show.
You give, yeah, you give like 10 people, they have like a little paintball, like a paint bow and arrow.
Yeah.
They can be a ball.
And give them.
Give Gagons one.
Yeah.
And he, or you, I'd say give them like 30 people.
Yeah.
Bring it on.
And he gets a head start.
Yep.
Into the forest.
It's a 45 minute head start.
Yeah.
That's it.
And just pick off whoever you can.
It's a bit like American gladiators, except.
I'd call it.
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I had a great wildlife sighting.
Just, nothing super rare, but a very cool moment a couple days ago.
Tell us.
I was in Colorado and we're cruising down this little like two track, real rough road.
And the guy who's driving was like, oh, two bald eagles right there.
So there was like two bald eagles doing some circling.
It didn't look like they were checking each other out.
It was like they were riding thermals or something.
Yeah.
And then just all of a sudden we see a fucking mule deer, not with its herd, just fucking cruising.
Oh, cool.
being followed by three coyotes.
Oh, no way.
Oh, that's sick.
That's awesome.
The mule deer obviously got separated from its herd or something.
Yeah, spooked.
Yeah.
But it was really cool.
It was like we stopped to look at these eagles and then we just,
what's awesome.
Saw this mule deer cruising.
I had a pretty intense sighting.
It made me a little sad the other day.
I was bringing my kid into my in-laws house.
And there on the driveway was, you know, just a big old bumblebee.
Not completely dead.
but just still alive, you know, but gonna die?
And I went through this dilemma in my head.
Do I put him out of his misery?
He's at the size for me where like it's actually difficult for me to like step on and kill.
I wouldn't want to do it.
You know what you got to do?
So first of all, if he was definitely going to die, you should.
He was.
I mean, it's a bug.
It doesn't really have the same pay.
Come on.
But still, here's what, if you don't have one of these, get yourself one, both of you.
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Bug assault.
The salt spray thing?
Oh my God.
It's such a treat.
I got one for Christmas.
Did I mention this thing?
Yeah, he did.
It's the best thing.
It's the best toy I've ever got.
Is this the, it's, it's a spray?
It's a shotgun that shoots salt.
Oh, yeah.
It's a springloaded shotgun.
Dude, there, I, I, like, I'm like,
sitting around in the house, if I've got nothing to them, like, where's a fly?
Where's a fly?
Flies are a different story, but I, I feel like that would make my bumblebee friend suffer.
No.
So here's why I would say you don't smash the bumblebee.
Okay, but I will kill the black widow.
Sure.
Okay.
Yeah, if you want.
But my thought is, maybe the bumblebee.
Bollby got wet.
It's possible.
It's possible. It's been ready.
It has a chance to dry out.
Sure.
And because they don't really have, technically they don't have brains, I don't know that it's
actually sitting there being like, oh, I wish I missed my mommy, you know?
Like, I don't know that it's suffering.
It's not a Disney movie, Bumblebee whose mother died in a tragic hunting accident.
I feel like the chance that it might just dry out and then fly away.
So leave it.
So we got one for kill.
We got one for leave.
To be fair, I said you kill it if it looks like it's really suffering and you're
sure.
It looked like it was like there's a
cortisept growing out of its face.
That's when you feel it.
Yeah.
All right.
What if I told you this?
I want to go back into some news here.
What if I told you this?
Let's hear it.
What if I told you this is the headline?
A dragon stalled development of 310,000 homes in Australia.
So like are you basically saying that somehow they were going to build 300,000 homes?
Mm-hmm.
And because of a dragon, they can't.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Is this true?
This is true.
Nah, get out of it.
What are you talking about?
I'm just going to leave it at that.
No, you're going to explain it up.
All right.
So a pause button has been hit on a future development of up to 300,000 homes after the discovery of, and we talked about this on the pod, the Victorian grassland earless dragon.
Oh, yeah.
Now, you might remember, this was thought to be extinct for over 50 years in Victoria, Australia.
And then they found one and then I think two, and they created a breeding program at the Melbourne Zoo.
And since then it's been going really well.
I think they're up to like 20, 30-ish individuals.
And but because of the discovery of where they found this Melbourne earless dragon,
Kyle, pull it up, it's not the big fire breathing dragon that we're thinking of.
It's just this really cute little lizard.
And also Australians call like every lizard a dragon.
Right.
So it's prevented them from building because these are injured.
Oh, because where they found it was where they want to develop this, you know, community or whatever.
And of course, you need to preserve that.
habitat. The reason the Victoria Dragon was driven to extinction was lack of habitat in that
grassland habitat. And think about being a developer. Like, you don't want to develop in a bog.
You don't want to develop in a river. You know, you don't want to develop on a mountain.
You want to develop in a grassland. Nice and flat, grassy, great place to develop. So yeah,
the rediscovery in this urban area has halted this.
So this is, I love this. This is outside of Melbourne, Australia, right? Right. So it's,
I think it's the second biggest city in Australia. And just, it's urban sprawl. Yeah. Right.
It's just, we just keep building and build.
300,000 homes.
That's big.
It's a lot.
It's a lot of homes.
Yeah.
But this is cool.
Like, it's an example of people being like, yeah, it might just be this little lizard.
Right.
But we thought it was extinct.
It's not.
Should we actually just go through and just fully wipe this thing out?
Right.
And the answer is no, of course.
Right.
Well, it's kind of cool that they were actually able to stop that development because that's 200 plus thousand jobs.
Oh, dude.
And so many, I mean, just so much.
boost for the economy, but we should, I want to come back to this story later. All it is is
fix the problem. So set up a nice, like, you know, earless dragon reserve, make some boardwalks
through it or something. People can go there and support it and make a donation and make that
habitat. And then just fucking move the development. I know that's easier said than done. Just move it
to another area, right? Just move it outside of that or make it surrounding that or whatever and
have both the best of both worlds. Like there's definitely other pieces of habitat.
Sure, maybe it's another 40-minute drive or whatever,
but there's definitely other pieces of habitat
that are less critical to some species survival.
I mean, if you think about, I hate, like,
I'm not like a city guy where I love being, like, in downtown L.A.,
surrounded by skyscrapers.
Sure.
But the more housing that we can build up into the sky,
the better.
The better.
Yeah.
So instead of 300,000 single-family homes,
you could have, you know, a thousand apartment buildings.
Have you guys seen some of these cities that they're building,
like mostly in
China
No, mostly in
like Dubai and
UAE and stuff like that
Kyle, yeah,
pull up the,
like there's the wall city
there's the floating city
Oh yeah,
there's a couple of those
Yeah, so there's this city
so this is that wall city
then there's this big dome city
that they're building
then there's a floating,
like type in Kyle,
I'm trying to think like
10 new cities that are being built
like mega cities being built
it's crazy that they're just
you just build a city
dude the amount of money
that they
like spend.
So what's what's the wall city, for example?
Like that, they just build a giant, a giant wall and it has units in it?
So it's a giant reflective like 100 mile long super city.
Okay.
It's a hundred miles long and 500 feet high.
Yeah, that's it.
So it's just this giant wall.
And it's the middle of the desert.
And so they've made it all reflective.
Yeah.
Yeah, there it is right there.
That's it.
That's real.
That's under construction, by the way.
And so the whole city will be inside the wall?
Correct.
Between the two walls.
and they're harvesting all of that sun energy and blah, blah, to power it.
Yeah.
It's just crazy, dude.
There's a ship one.
Scroll down, Kyle.
See if the ship one's there.
I don't know what that one is.
That's in Tokyo.
These look wild, dude.
Some of these look made up.
But there's some crazy things coming.
Pull up the floating city that they're building.
You know, I love this, though, because this is the way of the future, I think, you know,
as our resources start dwindling across the globe, like using the, it sounds.
Sounds like that Wall City is using solar power to basically run the whole thing.
Oh, they're all like self-sustaining. That's the whole point of it.
That's not the one I was thinking of.
They're building a city on a boat that can house like two million people.
It's like the size of a small.
Yeah, it's that, that thing, that thing, the turtle thing.
Look at this thing.
That's a city.
Like a huge city.
It's absolutely just in the shape of a sea tour.
Oh, yeah.
Like full on.
So this is inside of this ship.
Yeah, this I'm confused about because this ship actually looks, does it just flops?
on the water or does it actually take people places? No, it moves around the world. Well, that can't be
good for the environment. I think it's all solar power. Really? I think so. If that's true,
that's what all cruise ships should do. There's cars and like parks and... Do you want to live in that
city? Nah, it just feels like a cruise ship to me. Yeah, you would always feel, yeah, you would
always feel still separated from the rest of the world. Yeah, but what's the difference
between that and living in Perth, Australia? I don't know. I've never been there. Well,
Perth, Australia is one of my favorite cities of the world, but it's like a zillion miles from anything.
Ocean on one side and vast desert outback on every other side.
So Forrester, you got a trip coming?
Yeah.
Leaving in four days going to Japan for three weeks.
Vacation?
No, I wish.
I don't think I know what that is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I did go skiing for a day with my son, which was also the opposite of a vacation.
No, yeah, heading to Japan, it's, you know, for a very special program that happens once a year during the summer.
Very special week.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, on a major network.
Sure.
Don't know what it is.
Yeah, never heard of it.
Very cryptic.
Yeah, kind of talk about it.
So are you going to be diving with some sharks or something?
Yeah, if there was like a week dedicated to this kind of programming, the type of animal we'd be studying would be sharks.
They'd probably name it after that.
I don't know.
It's just a thought.
But yeah, no, so I'm going to get so sued.
You didn't say anything, mate.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Exactly.
No one does.
No, heading to Japan.
A lot of people don't know this.
Japan has the highest level of endomism of sharks in the world.
Peter, you've been doing this podcast for four years.
What is endemism mean?
I was just going to say, I've no...
Come on.
I've used that word.
I'm thinking it means endemic of some type.
Which means what?
They are...
They belong there naturally.
Only there.
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I did not know that about Japan.
I got a little bit of a bone.
Yeah. So very unusual, but the way that the currents work in Japan and specifically around Tokyo in a surreouka.
Bay, which is that big bay that Tokyo
sits on, they've got more species
of unique shark than anywhere else on the planet.
So, spielandemic, meaning
species that only occur
there and nowhere else. Gotcha. And so, yeah,
we're heading there to look at some of these
very weird and unusual shark
species and go and, you know,
try and find some and film them and do a lot of really
cold diving. Water's going to be in the
low 40s. So what kind of wetsu are we talking for that?
Everybody recommended
a dry suit, but
I hate dry suit diving.
Very difficult.
Kind of free dive.
It's unwieldy.
You're not as mobile.
So we're going with our 7-mill wetsuits.
I think it's going to suck.
What's...
Now, a dry suit is what?
Like the astronaut?
Big, huge, bulky version.
No, no.
Wet or...
You've seen dry suits because you worked on whale wars
and they wear dry suits.
Yeah.
What's the difference between a dry suit and a wetsuit?
There, you're seeing pictures right there.
So the dry suits like...
It seals at the wrists and ankles and you have air surrounding your body so that it keeps you
dry.
because what makes you cold is the water on your skin, which is pulling heat out of your body.
Gotcha.
So a wetsuit just gives you a rubber layer with a thin amount of water, you know, with limited water movement in and
out of your suit.
Yeah.
A dry suit keeps you totally dry.
People wear short jeans and a t-shirt under their dry suit.
That's wild.
Yeah.
Dude, I don't think people really understand how cold 40-degree water is.
No.
I mean, like, even if you said like 60-degree water, that's cold as shit if you jump in it.
And if you're in it for a while.
Yeah.
For sure.
I've been cold plunging not every day.
I'd love to say every day, but a lot trying to prep for this.
I think we've talked about this before.
It just doesn't matter how much you do it.
You don't get used to it.
You never want to hop in.
You don't get excited about it.
So are you setting it at this water temperature?
No, I don't.
So the gym that has the cold plunge I don't go to anymore.
So I've been just cold plunging in the creek by my house because we've had such a wet year.
And the water is about 52, 53.
It's a lot warmer than 40.
It's a lot warmer than 40.
but I spend five minutes in it with nothing, just board shorts on.
But I said I was going to do it every day.
I've realistically done about two to three times a week.
That's still pretty good.
It fucking sucks, dude.
It sucks.
So that versus actually hopping into this 40 degree water with a wetsuit,
is that like comparable to jumping into this creek at 52?
No, it's just different.
It's just like people that live in fucking Minnesota, right?
Like if you go to Minnesota right now, it's probably 22 degrees
and there's guys walking around shorts.
You know what I mean? Because they live there. They're, they're callous to it.
That's all I'm trying to do. Like, it's not like, okay, I've been cold plunging. It's similar.
It feels the same. I'm just trying to build up some tolerance.
Right, right. Because I'm, I'm the opposite of that. I'm from Africa and live in Southern California.
I've never fucking, I hate the cold. No, I hate the cold. So I'm just trying to get a little bit more climatized.
But the difference, it's probably worse being in that. It's definitely more shocking being in the creek at 50s90 degrees in board shorts than it is jumping in in a wetsuit.
but we're going to be in the water
six, seven hours a day.
So that cold will seep through.
And it just doesn't go away.
Relentless.
Like we did the Jaws of Alaska show,
the Patrick and I did together.
I was cold for two weeks.
There was no, like, you get into bed at night
and you put all your sweatshirts on,
you drink hot chocolate, whiskey, whatever.
And you're like, okay, I'm warm enough
to like go back to sleep.
But then you're just back in the water
at dawn the next day.
And it's like your bones feel cold.
That's crazy.
I never really thought about, like,
you know, the fact that you stay cold
for days and weeks after going in there, man.
It's, yeah, your bones are cold.
It feels like your bones are cold.
Imagine being like an Inuit or an Eskimo or whatever
where they survive one of those winters in the Arctic.
Yeah.
Like, there's no way they were ever like, ah, to see.
You know what I mean?
There's no way they were ever just like, ah, feels good today.
Nice and sunny.
Right.
Like, they're just cold for three months.
Yeah.
It's brutal.
It really is.
I mean, I think you, we say you never get used to it.
I do think that they probably got used to it after like five years, but still.
I don't know, man.
Hey, Pat, I wanted to ask you a question.
You said you took a little, you took a little pond hopper, right?
A puddle.
Pond hopper.
Pond hopper is just as good.
Yeah, it's pond hopper.
You're killing Kyle over there with pond hopper.
So what went on?
Like, what's going on?
This sounds like a pretty adventurous little kind of trip you were doing.
It's just something I'm filming in southern Colorado.
Okay.
mountains there. So it was up there just on a scout.
But it's exciting? Happen there?
That's just beautiful. It's just, you know, beautiful like, you know, base camps at like
9,000 feet. Oh, wow. To like maybe 10,000 five. And it's crazy. The difference between
9,000 and 10.5. Yeah. Breathing versus not breathing. It's crazy that that 50, that I, we can go
from sea level to 8,5009,000 and you feel it. Yeah. But like once you get up to 105, it's like untenable.
dude, when I did that Nepal trip,
I couldn't go up a flight of stairs
like without huffing and puffing.
I was like,
just from like literally, I mean, like,
like the height of this room and I would be like
completely winded.
And the difference between the first day,
so your first day is,
is legit like that where you're just like
every three steps you're like,
you like hear your heart beating in your ears and shit.
Yeah.
And then second day is exponentially better
and then it gets incrementally better from there.
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Merrill?
Remember I sent him on the pot.
He's like, I really need new boots.
I was shopping.
I was like, I'll get you some boots.
Dude, they're the most comfortable thing I've ever had on my foot.
I wore them on the flight home.
Oh, great.
Just because they're so much more comfortable than my sneakers.
That's amazing.
I told you, dude, I love Merrill boots.
I'm a huge, huge propit.
Not a sponsor.
No, I'm just a big fan.
Dude, they're...
And by the way, they look fucking sweet.
And they look a bunch of compliments.
They're kind of like the like military style boot.
Oh, nice.
They look like that, but they're made with whatever modern technology.
They're made out of pillow.
Crazy.
I think you gave me a pair of Merrill's and they're like, dude, I've never had a good pair of hiking shoots.
Yeah.
I've never had a good hiking shoot.
Yeah, never a good hiking shoe.
But, dude, I wear them every time I go hiking.
It's the difference between basically walking in my,
bare feet and walking with any type of shoe on.
Like, I don't slide down fucking things anymore.
It's like, I can't believe I was not wearing hiking shoes when I was fucking hiking.
It is a must.
This is going to come across like we're trying to do an ad for them.
Don't get Merrill.
No, I'm just telling everybody.
Like, it's good, it's good tip.
Like, I went through a lot of different types of hiking boot and then finally settled
on that brand.
And it's, it's been a game.
Yeah, I was a Lowa guy.
Yeah.
People are, these are outdoorsy people to listen to this podcast.
This is relevant.
We're not promoting these.
But I was a Lowa guy.
Yep.
Because they were so,
when I became really loyal to Loa was when I was with BTG in Alaska and we were just walking through puddles and rain.
Good ankle support for a month.
Good ankle support.
But everyone else's boot eventually would soak through.
Yeah.
And the Loas were always like still dry.
That's nice.
Now, dude, with this new pair of Merrill's, I'm like, this might be the only fucking shoe I wear.
So thank you.
Life later.
Save me a couple hundred bucks.
I appreciate it.
There's nothing worse than a fucking wet foot.
Oh, God.
And if you don't have boot dryers and your boots get soaked through and then you're putting on wet boots every dude.
Oh, that's worse than doing a cold dip.
Well, especially when you're filming, dude, and you make that mistake and you step in something too deep and you swamp your boot one hour into a 13 hour day of trekking.
There's nothing you can do.
It sucks.
So bad.
My day is going to be horrible.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's all about the tools, man.
It's what separates us from the animals, I always say.
So the other day, Pat, well, you were on your adventure.
Peter and I did a bonus pod.
And Edwin came up with a game that I thought sounded incredibly stupid.
Okay.
It was called dinosaur or muscle.
And I was like, listen, listen, I know a triceratops versus a bicep when I see one.
It's not that easy.
What about the tricep?
So, Kyle, how does this work?
So basically, there's a handful of words here that are very critical.
looking and sounding.
And I'm going to say the word.
And you guys are just going to guess, is that a dinosaur or a muscle?
Go for it.
And then Kyle's going to pull up a picture.
He's not going to tell us.
We're going to just get to the photo, which makes it more fun.
And I think when he does that, we'll know.
I will hope so.
Whether we're seeing a dinosaur or a human muscle.
That is correct.
All right.
This is the first one.
Props to Edwin.
Also, and fun of this is listening to Kyle trying to pronounce it.
Yeah, absolutely.
These are tough.
All right.
Sartorisisis.
Sartoresis.
Okay, I'll read these.
No, no, no, we got to let him.
He's a fucking moron.
Read it at the end.
Sartorius.
Sartorius.
You added four extra T's.
I did.
You added nine syllables.
Go ahead.
Is that a dinosaur muscle?
Wait, we got a guess.
Okay.
I'm gonna go.
That's absolutely a dinosaur.
Sartorius is a dinosaur.
I know this one is a muscle.
Yeah.
So part of the fun is guessing what it is.
So I'm going to say that the Sartorius is a small
ground-dwelling, large-plated dinosaur.
I'm going to say it's a muscle in a human body, but I don't know what it does.
Ah, oh, it's a big muscle, too.
Oof, it looks strapping.
It's like the one I kept guessing the other day, Peter.
It's a thing that connects your grundle to your knee.
I kept saying that.
It does.
It literally connects your grundle to knee?
Yeah.
Is there something that goes to?
That's it.
It's the sartorius.
It's the gruntle to knee muscle.
It's a fact.
So now when I get hitting the grundle, instead of saying that, I'm going to be like,
Oh, I get into the top of my Sartorius.
That's it.
Three syllables, brute.
You could never say that in conversation.
One point for Patrick.
Yes.
Boo.
All right.
Next step.
Platisma.
This bothers me.
I told you it's funny.
I didn't know he was dyslexic.
Platisma.
All right.
I'll go first this time.
Platisma is a muscle in the human body that connects.
Yeah, there we go.
It connects your, this foot.
that if it gets stepped on hurts to your big toe.
I like that. Okay. All right.
I'm going to say platisma is,
it's definitely the thing that allows you to wiggle your ears.
Fact.
Well, I'll tell you guys, you're both wrong.
This is a giant dinosaur
that lives in Barth Pond in Downers Grove, Illinois.
Okay.
Barth Pond.
Very specific.
Very.
Oh, boom.
Neck muscle.
It's your neck.
It connects your neck to your trap.
Interesting.
It's another massive muscle.
It's a huge.
muscle. It goes all the way from your
collarbone up into your cheek and around
your chin. It's, it reminds me
of the flank steak on a cow.
That's what it looks like. It looks delicious.
It's a flank steak.
Either of you guys die when we're stranded in the mountains,
I'm going straight for the platidon.
Yeah, it's a nice, nice bit of grilled platisma.
I heard it's tough. Oh, God,
platisma tacos. Cut it up nice.
Yeah. All right.
This pisses me off because I have to go dinosaur
again on the next one no matter what it is.
Why?
Because I've gone.
just I it's okay
Pissing me all right
Patrick 2,
Forest 1, Peter's zero
okay okay
I can't wait for you to pronounce this
yeah I know just think of that
you then you nen
luggia
you name you name
when you edit this Kyle
put put the word spelling up
so people can see how dumb you are
it's really funny because
Edwin was like smart enough
to actually put the way it sounds
well that's what I'm trying to do
I'm trying to read the phonetic
and it's messing me up
I think I should just read the word
Kyle, what's your first language?
It is?
It is.
Holy shit.
Unen Ligia.
There it is.
Unen Ligia.
You got it.
Unen Ligia.
All right.
Forrest, after you stop joking.
What is this?
Have us a good fat tire, pal.
Yeah.
Goal and throw it out.
Dude, I've had this cough for like six weeks.
It will not go away.
Welcome to my world, baby.
All right.
What do you got?
Muscle or dinosaur?
Somebody who isn't coughing up a long ago.
Unen.
Unenlaigea is a dinosaur, and it's cute as hell.
It almost looks like a tortoise, but without a long neck.
There you go.
Yeah, this is a dinosaur, I know, because the last two were muscles.
And this one, the Unenla Gia is a dinosaur that lives off the coast of Santa Barbara and eats sea lions for breakfast.
There you go.
Unanlegia is the sphincter retraction muscle.
Okay.
I swear to God if this is a muscle.
Oh, it's a dinosaur.
A feathered dino.
He's cool, too.
That's a cool looking dinosaur.
Yeah.
It looks a bit like a Velasaraptor, but more birdish.
Yeah, like a bit like an ostrich up there in that one rendering of it.
I like how one picture he's got tiny little chicken wings and the other he's got like massive.
Why can't we still have this?
I don't know.
It's awesome.
It's a dragon.
It's a cute dragon.
That's a legit dragon.
That's the one that would actually stop 300,000 homes from me.
Yes.
All right. What do we got next?
All right. Next.
I'm crushing him three points.
I've got one.
Yep.
Brief, three for Pat.
Wait, wait till you hear this.
Forrest has two.
One, I don't know.
He's got one.
All right. Next up.
Longisimus.
Eh, not bad.
Pretty close.
It's not good.
Longsismus.
Longissimus.
All right, I'll go first on this one.
This is a small.
Oops.
This is a small
Argentinian serpent-like dinosaur.
Okay.
I mean, I'll take a whack at this.
This is
this is the muscle that connects
the blood-filling tubes in a penis
to the anus rectum area.
I don't think you need that.
You know, when you squeeze your butthole?
I don't do that very much.
You flex it, so like it tightens out.
Are you doing it right now?
Well, I mean, I do it pretty regularly, like when I drop the soap.
I believe I know this is a muscle.
I think what it does is, it's like the thing in your ear that flutters when you get it.
Oh, I hate that thing.
That sounds familiar.
I think you might be right.
Let's see.
Longsissimus.
It is a muscle.
It is a muscle.
Down the spinal cord.
But on the inside, on the, like, tummy side?
No.
On the outside.
No, no.
It's on the back.
But it looks like it's your backstrap.
It's the equivalent of the backstrap.
Okay.
All right.
Also looks fairly tasty.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Delicious.
Dude,
dude,
anytime they have a rendering where it's a nice red.
Right?
Like state color.
You're like,
come on.
Make it another color.
All right.
I'm definitely losing now.
Patrick's crushing.
Now we have the corrugator.
So this feels like a trick.
This feels like an Edwin trick, right?
It's like a piece of tin.
I love something that goes on your roof.
Right.
Edwin didn't,
Edwin didn't find it necessarily.
even put the pronunciation.
He's like,
yeah,
Kyle'll be able to say
Corrigator.
And this is a
gator, as we can tell
in the word.
So this is definitely
a dinosaur.
It might even still be
around in gator form.
Lives in swamps in Florida,
obviously.
This should be a muscle,
but I think he's tricking us.
I think it's a dinosaur
that is,
it's a silly one.
It looks almost like
a dodo bird type thing.
I'm three for dinosaur.
Three for dino.
Three for dino.
Oh,
damn it.
It's a muscle.
It's your eyebrows.
Huh.
Hey, I'm learning a lot.
Like, actually, this is pretty fun.
I told you.
It's pretty good.
We played it the other day.
It's really hard, too.
That's a tasty looking face, though.
You remember when Jim Carrey would do the thing
where he would, like, have each eyebrow individually?
And then jump up and down, yeah.
Those are the core.
He's got strong corrigation.
You're right.
That is what that is.
Yep.
Yeah.
All right. Next.
Next.
Here we go.
Anconius.
and conius.
Enconius.
Enconius.
And Cornius, clearly.
So this is the same, it sounds very similar to Carnitas, which is a form of taco.
So I'm assuming that this is an edible dinosaur of some type.
Anconius is absolutely a dinosaur.
It would go on the water and the land.
There you go.
And neither place did it look like it belonged.
I know this one.
Fact.
Anconius is the dad muscle.
Are you familiar with the dad muscle?
No, what's that?
This little alien that you get right here.
It only comes in the day your child is born.
Oh, you actually did know it.
No, I was guessing.
Holy shit.
I swear to God, I was guessing.
Holy shit.
When I said, I know this fact, I just want to make a joke about the dad muscle.
Okay.
That is crazy.
That's a lie.
You knew this?
And because you're proud of your anconius, because you have a pretty defined anconianist.
I do have pretty good dad muscles.
It's because I broke this arm.
That's that muscle, isn't it?
I think it is.
Yeah.
Wow.
I gotta work on my fucking Anconius.
Forrest isn't usually a liar like you are, Pat.
No, I swear to God, I didn't know that.
I just wanted to point this out.
That's wild, dude.
I would be pointing that out constantly if I had that Anconius.
That's a nice looking Anconius.
Fuck yeah.
Let me see yours, Peter.
I can't even see it.
No, go, go to curl.
Go to curl.
I swear to God, as soon, look, you got a good one.
This?
It's this little alien that sticks up above the elbow right there.
Oh my God.
I don't even have one.
It's kind of turning me on, forest.
How do I even use my arm?
Look at that thing.
All right.
Nice juicy.
Next.
Yeah, I'm also eating your anconius.
That's dine, gentlemen.
All right, Kyle.
Try hard.
Multifidus.
Multifidus.
I think you got it.
I think that's good.
Yeah.
Yeah, multifidus.
That's how I'd pronounce it.
It's a disease.
Multifidus.
Multifidus is definitely a dino.
It's a dino.
It's got to be a dino.
Yeah, three for dino.
Small, feathered, relatively un, like, boring.
Mulfa fidist.
Fahedist.
Fah, damn it, dude.
Edwin, come on.
It's another backstrap.
How many backstraps do we have?
What is this?
This is like a lower back that flanks out from your spine in like a feathered pattern.
To your pelvis.
Bro, I just got a pot.
Important.
You don't want to strain that.
How fucking wild that every human has this construction?
And we don't talk about it.
I feel like it's something that we don't talk about.
It's insane.
We just pieced together with all these things.
Yes.
Whoever discovered these, like they went with these like weird Latin names.
Like, name them something funny.
Right.
What would be a good name?
For this.
That's the butt muscle.
This is your flip,
flippy flap.
This is your but nuffinus.
But nuffinus.
All right.
Three more.
Three more.
What do we got, Kyle?
Hesperonus.
Very good, Kyle.
Hesperorness.
I had to warm up.
He was doing it over there.
He muted himself.
Yeah.
I'm just going to say dinosaur because I've said,
I've been wrong, I think, every single time,
except for the dad muscle.
I think Edwin has used chat GPT to do a psychological profile on us to figure out
Like how to fool us.
It's working.
Because I mean, okay, it can't be a muscle.
It has to be a dinosaur, but I'm annoyed that it's going to be a muscle.
It's going to be a muscle.
I'm going to go muscle because it's the word hesperornis is making me think of pepperoni.
And so I think it might be a muscle in the male penis.
There we go.
Nice.
Pepperoni dick.
Kyle's crying with laughter.
Go ahead.
Penis rooney.
What is the hesperoronis?
Esperoron.
Ah, right.
Ah, it's an aquatic.
That's right.
The bird.
That was,
it's like a birdosaur.
It's a swimming bird.
They're huge.
They're on prehistoric planet.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, my son loves that.
Yeah.
Wait, how big is a hesperor?
They're huge.
Go to that.
Yeah, look there next to the human.
Oh, so it's like, it's like four feet tall.
Yeah.
Cool looking animal.
Yeah, it's like a corn, like a old school cormorant.
We need these.
Yeah.
I know.
Why don't we have this?
I mean, this should definitely still exist.
I wonder if the cormorant is, is closely related.
related to this. It does look just like a
quorum. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.
So it's not a penis muscle. Just look up if the
hesperonis, uh, cormorants a descendant of it.
His spelling's not great either. It's okay. Google fixes that. That's why
it doesn't always spell. Cormant like. No.
Yeah. Genus.
So it's not actually in the genus. Yeah. But looks like it. Interesting.
Even it's, it's even recognizing Wikipedia that it's cormant like.
Yeah. All right. All right. So we're moving on. I've learned about
dinosaurs. I've learned about muscles.
He will never be able to pronounce this one.
No, what's the score?
The score is, uh, pats up by a lot.
All right. Well, this one, the, the final one will be worth 200 points.
That's what he did to me last time and then he won.
Yeah. I love that you always agree to that though.
I know. I'm such a push over.
All right. This is Ramfarincus.
Ranfrancus. You crushed that. Yeah.
That's by far the hardest one.
The one. But if you had taken out the phonetic.
Oh, no way.
Exactly.
Ramfrenkis.
Ram for Yinkis.
Okay.
What do we got?
This is a muscle that connects the occipital lobe in the back of your head to your sternum.
Okay.
For unknown reasons.
Yeah.
Unclear why we have that.
We don't really need it.
It's like an appendix.
Sounds delicious.
This is a dinosaur.
I'm just going to go with what it sounds like.
A ram.
It's got a big ass fucking horn coming out of it.
That's where my head was.
Like a large-headed dinosaur.
A ram four incus.
Yeah.
Yeah, baby.
Definitely not a large-headed head-buddy dinosaur.
Very cool dinosaur.
A lot of flying dinosaurs.
Look at the teeth inside that beak, dude.
Oh, my God.
You don't see that every day.
Nah, you don't see that anymore at all.
Man, I wonder if they have...
Oh, is that an actual...
Oh, I was going to say...
Do they have...
Like, I wonder if they have actual, like,
fossils of these things.
I'm sure.
They must, right?
No their way we'd know what it is.
Well, I feel like they make a lot of them up.
Fair enough.
All right.
We got one more.
One more.
For 200 points.
200 points.
Cephylderma.
Cephylerma.
This is obviously a muscle that is within the face because it says derma and this
is the face.
Derma means skin.
Derma means face skin.
Dermma means face skin.
Nah, fuck you.
It means face skin.
And this is a muscle.
that goes right underneath the eye and right down to the bottom underneath the chin.
And it helps your eye stay open rather than always closed.
For clarity, whoever is closest wins the 200 points.
Yes, correct.
Okay, you go next.
All right.
Sticking with muscle.
Derma means skin, not face.
Face muscle.
Nope.
It's on all the face wash products.
Yep, because it means skin.
Cephoderma, sephoderma.
Ceph.
What does Ceph mean?
That's what I was trying to think.
Like, what root could there be?
I know what it is.
It's big, big, don't fuck it up.
Yeah, something around the hips.
It's a muscle around the hips.
Okay.
I think it's a muscle, the muscle that's right underneath your skin on top of your foot.
All right, we got.
You grabbed your breast when you said that.
Oh, we got a face.
We got a breast and we got a foot.
We got a foot.
All right.
That's a dinosaur.
It's a fucking super cool dinosaur, too.
It's like a turtle.
Excuse me.
It's like a turtle dinosaur.
It's like a turtle bug.
It's like a turtle gator.
Look at its head.
Yeah, things awesome.
Dude, look at that.
How'd I never heard of this?
This is my new favorite dinosaur, fact.
That's very, very cool looking.
I like that none of us got that and we all went derma.
Wait, how big is, how big is a sephiderma?
I need to know this.
Cephederma?
You mean a Pfeffodora?
Six feet long.
That's a big boy.
That's an awesome creature.
Triassic period, 210 million years.
I want this on a shirt, man.
This is a shirtable dinosaur.
It has elements of a soft shell turtle in the face, right?
With the snout.
Yes, but then the like,
napper, like alligator snapper mid-shell and then like a horseshoe crab buttocks.
Kyle, we're the cephiderma closest living relative.
I don't know why.
I wonder if it is the alligator snapping turtle or if it's a soft shell turtle.
Yeah, because why doesn't this thing still exist?
It has to have evolved into something modern because it's something that could be around in
today's world.
Pebbly skin.
That's what sephoderma means.
Pebble-skinned.
Ah, well, we're right about the derma.
Yeah, but they named a dinosaur that had pebbly skin, not us.
Those Latin fucks.
Oh, man.
The entire genus is extinct, I guess, so it can't have a...
Nope.
Okay, I'm dumb, because the way that dinosaurs went extinct was like full...
Full extinct.
But you're not dumb.
Gene pool gone.
Yeah, but not all of them.
There are some things like birds are related.
Like, the closest living relative of the T-Rex is the chicken.
That's wild.
Yeah.
It's so hard for me to believe.
I know, it really is hard to believe.
Yeah.
It makes me think we may just, there may be a, you know, like we looked at the stuff that we thought 150 years ago that was just completely wrong in how we were thinking about it.
Oh, yeah.
I wonder if there's just a fundamental, like, our understanding of, like, how we say there's this much DNA match.
That means it's the closest relative.
And it's just completely wrong.
And that will change in 50 years.
Yeah, but you can't say that.
You're going to be scrutinized for even thinking like that.
Yeah, we're asked.
Maybe we don't, that might be a little off.
I'm with you.
I mean, yeah, but.
Canceled?
Nah.
All right.
Who won?
I believe it was me.
I believe.
Patrick by the one's like.
I mean, no one got closest on that one.
No, no, not on that one.
The whole game.
Patrick won.
Yeah.
What a way to close out the pot.
Dinosaur or muscle is not my game.
It's a fun game.
I've not done well on that game.
I learned more in that game than I've learned in the last 20 Pots.
Truly, I think that is the strength of that game.
like I learned quite a bit.
I'll never remember any of it.
That I'm listening to Kyle try and pronounce things.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, it's an all around good game.
Thank you, Edwin, and thank you guys for coming here in the new studio.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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