Wild Times: Wildlife Education - 41 "Extinct" Birds Released Into Wild - TWT 168

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

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It's good. This is a good use of our studio resources. Yeah. Yeah, we pay several thousand dollars a month to go there like, you know, a couple times. All right, well, look, let's address the elephant in the room. It's my fault that we're on a virtual pod. And the reason being I got back at midnight last night from some hippo shenanigans. If you want to hear more about that, I can't talk about it publicly yet.

Check out the bonus pods. But this is the Wild Times podcast, the greatest podcast in the world. The only one that Elon Musk regularly says is the best podcast in the world. I've heard of say it. I was fascinated by that. Twice yesterday. Yeah, it was in vanity. He keeps talking about it.

It's crazy. I don't know why. But I'm your host, For Scalante, the broologist, joining me, as always, as usual, the beautiful, the effervescent, the wonderful Peter. Wow, that makes me feel good. I haven't heard those kind words in a long time. Yeah. So, wait, before you go on, I do want to talk a little bit just about my day. It'll be real quick.

Okay. I was at the gym. You ever at the gym in the sauna? I'm dressed for the gym. I just won't get there today. The sauna, a male sauna, for those of you that don't know, is the most at a gym, like a cheap gym is the most disgusting fucking foul place in the entire world. And what it makes it worse, I get mad, angry in there every fucking day because some

disgusting, like, 65-year-old man, obese comes in with no clothes on, completely fucking naked in a public gym and starts making all of these grunting and fucking, what are the noise? Why is he doing that? I mean, I don't know. People are allowed to be naked in the sauna, but why is he grunting? I'm telling you he's grunting. It took, he grunted when he got up onto the fucking thing. We all had to shuffle over and then just threw out.

And then dude, he's, he's basing himself in his own sweat. I'm saying like he's just like, and you can hear that. Like, what are you doing, dude? There's other people in here. I'm sorry. I love the sauna, but I cannot stand those old men who just don't give a shit about anybody else. That's 100% me in not very many years. Like I'm talking like two to three.

I'm caring way less about stuff I do. Like if I feel like a crusty booger in my nose, I could be dropping my kid off at school and it doesn't matter. I don't care. I'm just going to take it out. It's awful. I will tell you this, the woman I sat next to on the plane yesterday flying home,

Houston to LAX. As you stunk of hippo shit, yeah? I did, but what she did was far more obnoxious. Toot? She toot? No, it was one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen. she she sat in silence was totally polite was was raw dog in the whole flight didn't look at a phone didn't look at anything just sat there with her eyes open I think she I think she was Japanese she was

very like like put together and like structured and like she like she just sat like this meditating I think I know where this is headed I don't know if you do because I just reached over and put her hand in your lap yeah it was nice all right you guys figured it out no but she then like probably 45 minutes before we landed did one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen a person do on a flight. She took out a small thing of baby oil and spent, I'm not exaggerating,

probably close to 10 minutes self-massaging vigorously. And it was like, for the first minute, I was like, okay, like I get it, you're like warming yourself up or something. Sorry, where? You've left out as a storyteller, you have failed. What part of her body, sir? Dude, it was bizarre.

So she reached into her purse. She sat motionless staring at the seat in front of us for a good two and a half hours. Then she just like, breaks character, reaches down into her purse, takes out a mini little thing of, I assume baby oil, but some form of oil, grabs it in her hands, puts it back, and then just vigorously rubs her body. Jesus, I just knocked my headphone cable out. Vigorously rubs her whole body, her face, her neck, starts massaging her arms, massaging each finger. But like vigorously to the point that my seat was shaking, she was hitting the seat in front of her. her like no but this went on for like you'll be fine if it was like a 45 second like all right

I need to like stretch or something yeah went on for I'm not exaggerating for a second like 10 minutes show me and do it in a way that works for audio show no exaggeration show me how vigorous she was doing this nice and gentle gentle hand drop that doesn't sound too bad that's that is that is wild for like 10 minutes. Her thighs, she did her thighs, like she had like a skirt or like a dress. What? Hold her dress up to her knees and then sort of put her hands under the dress. How old was this lady? Probably in her like mid to late 40s. I bet did she look like she was about 22? Because I feel like no. No, no. She was not attractive. She was in decent shape, but it was just the vigor with which she was rubbed. Vigure with which in a, on a public flight. And I was like at first, I was.

only one staring because after a few minutes, I was like, all right, I got to like mean mug her to make her stop. Yeah. And she continued to deadpan at the seat in front of us. And then, I don't know, no less than 12 people started staring at her. And she just continued to do it. Let me ask you this. Let's say, quite a true. Yeah. And, you know, in the age range. And she was doing it very soft and subtly, subtly, gently. She was gently rubbing oil into her thighs. very attractive. Jesus, Pat.

Would you have had a problem with this? Of course not. If she was beautiful, I'd be like, hey. That would have a whack material. What are you? Can I help you?

Whack material? Wow. I mean, it's true, though. If she were a gorgeous lady, I would be like, you know, there's something to this. Like, good for you. I don't think so.

Not with that vigor. Even if she was beautiful. A 10 out of 10, you can't rub that vigorously. The bigger is what made it so off-putting. It was so bizarre that she was like, it was like she was trying to stimulate growth in her muscles. Like, why are you doing such a thing?

I was going to say, like, you know, the Japanese culture, they really do have some secrets to longevity and health. And I feel like they look young longer. And I was wondering, I mean, this might be something I'm going to look into and see if I could use it to keep my fresh baby face for a few extra years. Vigorous plane rubs? Well, it's got to be on a plane with baby oil or maybe olive oil. ticket. I cannot say for sure, but that may be the ticket to longevity. But it was,

it was really awful to be seated next to it, to be quite honest. Yeah, that's, I'm sorry you had to go through that for us. Thanks. I wanted to get that out. Kyle, I don't know if you can play the jingle, but it's time for what's in the news, isn't it? Isn't it? Yep. It's always time for what's in the news. All right. Yeah, we're flicking it. What's in the news? There it is. Oh, he's got it. Oh, yeah. That jing is. That jing is. That jing is. That brings me back. Okay. Thank you for the jingles.

All right. This one has really captivated me. Say more. It's being called the stuff of nightmares. It's being called great. Ripped right out of the show, the Last of Us. Okay. I like that show.

A zombie fungus infecting spiders in Ireland. Oh, no. See what it looks like. It is straight out of the last of us. us. Oh, man. TV show. Look at, look at its head. Yeah, that's not great. What in the world is that?

It looks like it has a monster mask on. I hate it. A picture, if you're only listening, a scary spider with its legs and hairy legs and then a monster mask on. I hate it. I hate it. I can tell that it's going to take over the world. I hate it.

Go down to the next photo. Oh, my God, Medusa hair. So, Gibbill. Jabalula Atenbarogi was first discovered. I bet David Attenbar is thrilled that was named after him. Yeah, exactly. It was named after him. First discovered in 2021, but it's now been found in several different caves in Ireland.

Only in caves. They have not seen it, you know, come up to the surface yet. But, yeah, they don't know what's going on with this. It's taking over these spiders' heads. I mean, we've heard about it with the zombie ants, right? Yeah. It's interesting. It's horrific. It says here that it takes over control of like its dopamine receptors and makes it value, much like a heroin addict, the feeling that it gets from the fungus itself over its own life. So it comes out, the spider comes out of its layer just to cover itself in this fungus and disperse the fungus because it makes its happy chemicals happy about it.

Well, that's why the last of us, I think, is strong. struck such a chord with people. Oh, because of, yeah, I see what you're saying. Because it feels so plausible. Yeah. Because we know that it exists in nature. So, you know, this idea of the fungus taking over your corpse. And it feels like a plausible end of day's scenario.

So then any time a piece of news like this comes up, it feels heightened. It has been found on two species of spider occupying different types of environments in the cave systems. It's only a matter of time. It is only, I don't care. I know we talk all the time now. We seem to be obsessed with it with AI taking over. All these things are going to come together. They're all going to, like, AI is going to figure out that it's going to become self-aware.

Like we always talk. I sound like such a fucking loon. I don't care. AI has become self-aware. Then it's going to figure out like, okay, well, you know, my creators of humans say I can't harm human, so I'm just going to alter them. So then it's going to like realize that there is fungus in spider brains that can control people and things. And then it's going to be like, all right, let's just make a couple tweaks here.

Now we're going to spread this to the human population. And bam, now we're in control. A couple tweaks. Yeah. Just a little food on it. The scariest stuff does start from the lower animal kingdom on earth as we as we know. I mean, dude, imagine basically a fungus that tells your brain you're doing heroin or something that feels very good. So much to the point, or you're just getting hair. hammered. You know how it feels great. You're in a great mood. Makes you walk outside, naked, and just start spraying it all over the neighbors. And you're just like, you got to try this. You got to try this fungus. The whole neighborhood pretty soon is

infected. You're partying and then you die. Just standing in place outside in the streets, man. So you're spreading the fungus, like you're spreading chicken coupons kind of thing. Yeah, dude. Come on. That's a sensitive subject. Go back to podcast two or three to hear that story. Well, yeah, I mean, dude, it's pretty, yeah, I, because it's funny because I clicked on this BBC article and then right below it was a link to another one. Your guy got bitten by a spider, a little spider bite and he didn't think anything of it. And by the next day, it had already turned into a flesh eating, somehow the spider transferred a flesh eating bacteria into this guy's stomach. and it was, and they had to open them up, but it was like necrotic.

Yikes, man. I'm not with any of this. I'm not with any of this. Well, it's good. I mean, we got to talk about some of these things. What is good about this? Yeah, it was, it's good. It's good for the, for the fungus.

That's about it. Dude, it's, yeah, we're so. Well, you're a big fan of fungus, though. I mean, mushrooms gave us good fungus that we can eat. I don't know how we didn't get into this. You know, I was home for all of, Speaking of fungus, do you know I was home for all of what two days before I had to leave for Columbia? Yeah.

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And my garage freezer, which you both have had items out of, a lovely stand-up sub-zero freezer, is beeping, has an alarm on it for when the temperature has gone up. Something very, very bad has happened. I go to the freezer. I mean, the story doesn't need to be as long as I make it. Go the freezer, freezer's dead. Everything in there, 150 plus pounds of wild game. Oh, not the wild boar sausage.

all the more hostage, all the fish, all the lobster, everything is fortunately not unfroated. The top shelf is totally thought out. The second shelf is like slushy material. And the third shelf is like mostly frozen to fully frozen because you know hot air at the top, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah. But the debacle is it's like 200 plus pounds of wild game meat in this freezer. And my freezer in my house is, it's about the size of that fridge right there. So I had nowhere to put it. So major panic. This was after coming back for a camping trip, watching roads, drove to Home Depot.

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And they're selling- Roblo? No, neither of them. Their name Michael. And Michael happens to be selling that house. And I noticed he had a chest freeze. So I called him and I was like, hey, is there any way that chest freezer in your garage is plugged in an empty? And he's like, yeah, actually, it's both of those things. Nice.

And so I ran all the remaining meat that wasn't trashed up there and ordered a new freezer that was delivered yesterday while I wasn't here. So it was just such a debacle, like moving 200 pounds of meat. I had to like text my rugby group thread and was like, anybody who once thought out game, it's here. And I had a line of people coming to pick it up. It was just, oh, it was a mess. You know, that's the, the tough thing that happens once in a while. That's an emergency with everything having, being only orderable online now. Like, we try to get like an HDMI cable, animal commerce or something.

We needed like a, like a obscure number, like a 75 foot one. $300 at fucking Best Buy. And they had one and it didn't work. And that's why Best Buy doesn't exist anymore. I mean, it's the blockbuster of stores. By the way, I actually went to one this weekend. And, you know, do you know what's happening, Peter? I want to just point something out.

I'm interrupting Patrick intentionally. Do you know what's happening? No, go ahead. I don't even know what you're talking about. Patrick's such a good producer that he somehow knows what box stores we're going to talk about, like smart and final or Best Buy. And he goes there ahead of time. That's right.

Just is the product so that he has something to contribute to the conversation. It's a quantum mechanics thing, I do feel. He's got heightened ESP. No, they have quite a selection of toasters on their website. There's one down the street. I figured it would be a good, I can get my three-year-old excited about stuff like that. I say we're going on an adventure to find a new toaster. So we go to the, go to the Best Buy.

Guess what? They don't sell toasters in store. Wow. The price points too low. I was told. For a toaster. Yeah. You got a full washer dryer there.

Yeah. Then I had to drive across the street to create in peril of the, of which then picked from the selection of three toasters they had available. But we're each $900. We're making some lovely toast. though. That's good. That's great.

As long as you have good toast. Dude, so when you were, I think we, I'm sure we told the story in a previous pod, but there's a new part to it. So we got together for the Christmas party. I said, let's do a funny prank on Peter and film it. Yep. I was not excited. No, well, Forrest said, oh, let's drug him.

Let's drug him with this cova powder. I was not excited about it. Even after hearing about it, I was like, you guys were going to drug me. We were. shit my pants and had a panic attack, gone to the ER. So where, I forget, where did you get the Kava? In Vanuatu. Yep.

Oh, that's right. And so you were like, oh, it's crazy. It makes your throat go all funny. People freaked out. These are all things that happen. And so he wanted to drug you with it. Yeah. Face goes numb for 10 minutes and up in the ER.

It would have been hilarious, by the way. Well, I'll tell you what. I mistakenly the other day drank a kava tea made with kava powder. Yeah. It's like, it's like, my tongue feels like it's coated in wax. Interesting.

I was like, what was going on? And I looked, I was like, oh, this is the shit that Forrest I was talking about. Yeah.

I got to say, man, it's fantastic. Where did you get this? In the right dose, it is nice and relaxing and just melts your stress away. It's, it doesn't help me sleep.

But it definitely like, it fucking relaxes. the shit out of you. I'll tell you that. It's, uh, I know real nice. I actually know, like, quite a bit about Kava and these types of, uh, how do you know these things over the count? Because I, I'm into like reading about drugs and drugs that are legal and stuff like that. And, uh, you know, Kava has been used for thousands of years. You just, you got to be sure you don't use it every day because literally there are withdrawal symptoms and whatnot. But Pat, oh, I've seen it. I've seen it. I'm curious. Where did you get the Kava

drink like unbeknownst to you um it was just we have a cabinet i said to my wife do we have any tea yeah i don't drink tea but i was like i'm not like gonna have wine but i'm staying up for another hour so yeah yeah yeah i was like yeah and i was like oh this one's called like de-stress or calm or sure that and i was like yeah i'll take that one yeah it's 85 milligrams of kava and it says on there it's like for an even more chilled out experience try to um so i haven't gone up to two yet because One is like, one is like you definitely want to get in bed. That's great. It's real nice.

Are you getting the face numbing or not? Oh, yeah, dude, a little bit. But I think if you double up, yeah, we're going to get it. But it definitely makes my tongue numb. You really got to start low on these things. And like that bag of powder that you brought, like knowing about the cratum and Kava world, like 85 milligrams, like that's, you know, you're a gram of something. You're talking about like barely one tenth of that.

so it's okay. You have to start very, very small. If you just bump that up to like 200 milligrams, it's a minute amount of powder, but now you're like OD in on Kava. I bet that's what happened to you guys at the restaurant for it. Yeah. You probably went like three, four hundred milligrams.

Which is like a tiny fucking tiny and spoonful thing, you know? I mean, really? Oh, yeah, it's nothing. To be clear, I was never going to test how much I was going to give you. I was just going to put a lot in it. probably were going to put half the bag, and I think the bag was like six grams. I would have done full bag, for sure.

No question and just gave it to you. There's no, there's no question about it. He could have died. I definitely would have been an ER. I think you would have been semi okay. I'd be like, oh, guys, I feel, I feel, I feel, take me to the bar of the ER. Dude, it is, my kids are here. Peter, you want to, you might want to get on this train because it, fuck.

No, I, I stay. Dude, I was heavily addicted to Kratum, which is a. Yeah, it's like, cratum is like, it's essentially, and don't go out and do it because it'll ruin your life. It's a legal opiate that they sell. And it comes in various forms, the first one being the same as Kava, where they crush up kind of the leaf into a powder. So you can take it and feel good. But then what they do like humans do with the Kratum is they put it into very, very extracted and strong tinctures or a tiny dribble of it. I don't even know what these words you're saying, me.

spray. It's like a little bottle of liquid where you take one and it literally feels like you've taken a prescription only like percocet or something. And then, you know, you get like me, I'm an addict. So you get heavily addicted to you start taking it every day and you get divorced. That's like the most sad way to describe something I've ever heard. Like me, you're an addict and you get addicted and then you get a divorce. I mean, it was, I will say it was pretty dark. Like when you were deep on the cratum, because like you would you would tell me. about it. Can you look this up? Kyle, can you create them up? I don't even know what this.

Because you were buying, like you were setting up deals on like dark web and like, well, not dark web, but like, I mean, it's some sketchy drug deals though. It was sketch. And also, you don't know what's in it. It doesn't have any, uh, this comes from Thailand and Indonesia. I believe Thailand mostly. And there's no, there's nothing controlling what's in what you're getting. You know, you're getting it from like a head shop where they sell bongs and shit. Oh, Oh, I see what you're saying. I was like, what, yeah. Okay, got it.

Yeah, yeah. So there's no regulation or anything on what's in it. So who knows if they were putting other kinds of powders, you know, legal or gray area powders in it to make you come back. But it's highly addictive. And, you know, it ruined my marriage. I still want to know what it is. Like, what is the derivative of it? Well, it's got this thing called Mitrogen 9 in it, which is the active chemical.

Where are you getting this from? How do you know these things? I was addicted to it for years, bro. I mean, you know, I was taking it. Say the name of it again? I literally have already forgotten it. Mitrogen 9 is... Oh, Kratum.

Cratum. Yeah. Did Kyle put this on screen? Did I miss it? He did. He did, but I didn't get a chance to look at it. Can you pull it back up, Cal? Yeah.

And so, you know, it's got this... There's active alkaloids in it that mimic antidepressants, you know? And this is an FDA approved, so it's everywhere. They sell it in gas stations. They sell it everywhere now. And they... Pat, the only reason it really, like, I was thinking about it was... I've actually been listening to some podcasts.

They promote heavily this new product called Feel Free, which is a combination of Kava and Kratum. And all of a sudden, these things are being sold everywhere. And people are getting heavily addicted to it. And like having to go to rehab and get off it with Suboxin, which is like a heroin thing to get off a heroin. And they have to like go.

They go through brutal withdrawals. And I was like, and it's being sold in like gas stations. fucking nationwide. And I'm just like, wow. Yeah. Dude, I see this shit that you see at the gas station. Like I always see that rhino pill that's like.

Yeah. Yeah, I know exactly. I'm like, dude, I bet you take that shit like 50% of people who pop that end up with a priapism getting their dick drained in the ER. Like, don't you think? Like, this is the packaging alone. I'm like, dude, I don't know what like that. Ooh. Dude.

So as I've said, though, you know, I am. I just had a stroke. I'm a per. I did. I thought it cut out, but it was stroke. No, but dude, like, so I've been into like kind of these, I've been trying to find legal mind altering chemicals for years and years, but I've realized the error in my ways and I kind of stay away from and research everything

heavily now. That's why when magic mind reached out to us and like, they told me what was in the gummies and everything, I was like, oh, like, that's all just like natural shit that I used to take to kind of like get off of the cratum and feel better and stuff so they actually just sent me uh you know because they're a sponsor they sent me a bag of 90 of these new gummies bro have you guys tried the gummies no no of you it doesn't look like it dude i haven't opened it but i have other gummies because they they sent miniature packages but now they're selling them big time and these are fucking incredible dude the it's basically like one of the one of the magic mine shots in three of these

And I swear to God, like I took one before a workout the other day. And no joke, man, I did the workout. I did, I did a elliptical plus like three sets of weights and did the sauna. And my life was changed. I was out of my depression. I felt so good. No, I mean, I've had a C4 and two cups of coffee today. I haven't this is, I'm scared to have a magic mind.

No, they're not. I'm cracking in. No, that's what I'm saying. I'm cracking in. But that's what I want to say about magic mine. I have done all of. this shit to extremes, to crate them, the Kava. These give you just a wonderful, energetic, kind of like, you feel good and relaxed, and there's

no, like, negative effects that I've ever experienced from it. And they're not, like, addictive, like all this other shit. Guys, I just want to interrupt quickly because I need to tell you that you can get your own magic mind gummies now. Just use code Wild 40 or the link in the description to unlock the launch offer. And you'll get 40% off your order. Okay, you're going to love them. Let's get back to the show.

And you stop wasting your time with the elliptical, by the way? Or do you just like, sorry, do you just like, sorry, that's, I don't mean to say it that way. Do you do it because you like how it makes you feel like you just like the brain or you're doing it for weight loss? Well, I'll just start by saying I lost several tens of pounds just by doing the elliptical in my garage for a couple months and eating better. Yes. However, the elliptical for an oldman, 41 like me. Dude, if I go for a one-mile jog, my knees are shot for like a week and then I'm fucked. Yeah, I got to deal with the kids and shit.

Eliptical is good for people and it does the arms, except it did give me tennis elbow. So now I just run on it without grabbing the bars. You got tennis elbow from the elliptical? I could see that. Yeah, I did. Well, no. And as you start to advance on the elliptical, I know it's an animal podcast. I'm sorry, but not.

No, I find this fascinating. This is adventure and wildlife and exercise. So, no, as you get more and more, like, into the elliptical, you become stronger and stronger, and it's not enough. You don't get enough of a heart rate lift. You have to turn up the resistance on the elliptical. And when you do that, you're using your arms so much more. It's like an arm workout.

And then, yeah, I got tennis elbow because I was doing it five to six days a week in my fucking garage. I'm, like, pulling along. And now I get chronic tennis elbow. So stick with the magic mind. gummies and stay away from that elliptical. I just ate three per the back of the package. I'm going to eat three, too. I just did it.

I need no more caffeine. It's perfect. So, Kyle, can you pop on for a second? I know you've been, I've seen you in the show doc frantically, just moving your cursor around.

I want to give you an opportunity. Yeah. You pick which news story you want to do next. Oh, smart. Really smart. Yeah. He has a person.

He's not going to know what to do. What is, which is the one? It's a producer. It's the Spix McCaw reintroduction. We should talk about that. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. All right. So, so what is it? Give us, give us the one liner into it.

Can you get a mic? Do you not hear me? Can you hear me? We hear you and the cars behind you. Clearly that mic is not plugged in or not in use. Interesting. Yeah, you know for us. Yeah, so the Spix McCaw is great. I got to pause, dude.

I asked him to give a one line intro. into it and he said, yeah, you know Forrest, have had it. Technically that's one sentence. It's horrible production, even though he's great at everything. That was terrible. He's almost as bad as me. Okay. Can I?

Spinks McCaw. Thank you. All right. We've all seen the lovely kids movie Rio. Yes? How many wines have you had, Petter? I just filled it up to the top, so I'm here now and I'm going to pour a full another one. It's Friday.

Have you seen the movie Rio? Petter? Let's just say yes. I think I have. I don't. Patrick, you've seen it, right? you have two daughters. We just started it as like a, because you know how it is.

You watch a movie and then that's the only movie for two months. So we just watched it for the first time like a couple of nights ago. Okay, it's this movie. It's a great kids movie, by the way. Second one loses the plot a little, but Rio one, tremendous. It's all about this beautiful blue macaw that is the last of his kind. He's living in a bird cage in, I think like Michigan with his female owner. And he's the last of his kind.

And that movie is based on the Spix Macaw. Now, the Spix Macaw is, I think we've talked about this. It's a real animal from northern Brazil that lives in a high desert region that was driven to extinction. And I can go deep onto why it was driven to extinction in the wild, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, yeah, I mean, just give us the one line. How did it get humans? I mean, yes, but it's kind of a confluence of things.

So first of all, they're relatively low density. Secondly, they're beautiful, so they were collected for the pet trade. Then in this arid region, they brought in goats to farm in the area, and the goats ate all of the sapling trees that the Spix Macaws nest in. At the same time, it's all really interesting, but at the same time, invasive bees came into the area. So the few large trees that did remain as nesting grounds for the Spix Macaw, they nest in hollows of trees the same as these invasive bees. So these invasive bees came in and created hives in Spickmacaw nesting areas. So before you knew it, there was only a few spix macaws. There was nowhere for them to nest, and the remaining ones that were around got caught for the pet trade.

So in, boy, don't quote me on this, but I want to say like early, early 90s, late 90s, there was down to 16 spix macaws left, total. Zero in the wild, 16 across captive collections. It was early early 90s. Early 90s, great. I'm 16. I'm seeing 15. 15. There you go.

Sorry. Still like, You're off by once. An insanely low number. This is all 100% off of memory. 15 in captivity, zero in the wild. Right. And then the story gets really crazy.

I've wanted to write about this in the book that I'm currently working on, but the guy will not do an interview. My understanding, and I'm probably going to get in trouble for telling this, is there's a crazy guy who runs a parrot organization, and his name rhymes with Barton Schmuth. And Barton Schmuth, is allegedly, allegedly a German gangbanger

who went to prison, this, that, and the other thing, but fell in love with these parrots. And what I respect, this is the stories I've heard. What I respect so much about this guy who I won't say his real name is that he came out of prison,

quote unquote, reformed, but then continued to break the law, but it was laws of conservation. So my understanding is, he collected a whole shit ton of money, flew around with nefarious money in private jets, collecting the remaining spix macaws and took them all to Germany and then started a breeding

program against like the iucan the international union for the conservation nature against like the Brazilian government against all these people he's like fuck you guys if we don't do if we don't act these because are going extinct so this crazy german gangbanger guy again just my understanding i don't know him flew around the world collecting these macaws uh after getting out of jail i believe breaking all kinds of international smuggling laws iUCN laws like sideyn laws like CITES laws, everything, brought as many of these parrots as he could together and started a Spix-McCall breeding program. This is all hearsay. This is what I've heard through the grapevine. Yeah, but very interesting nonetheless. If whatever I made the rhyme of his name sounds like,

here's this. I'm sorry, this is just what I've heard. Because I do respect this person a lot for doing this and saying, fuck you. Because as we all know, one of my biggest gripes of conservation is that it's people sitting around talking about doing things, not taking action. And this guy just said, fuck it and just did it. Anyway, broke a lot of laws, made a lot of people really unhappy, and started this breeding program for these parrots. Now, of course, because he's done that, he's valuable to the parrots, and now he's sort of seen as a hero.

But he created this parrot breeding program. There's now several hundred or several thousand in captivity at various zoos and facilities around the world. That's great. Ventara, India, the place that I went to and filmed at that I've talked about a couple times, they have one of these captive breeding programs. So they got a bunch of these parrots that came from the 15 and started breeding them. And they bred 42 of them that they then flew again on a private jet, I believe, all the way from India to northern Brazil where the ACTP, the

parrot organization, is doing reintroduction programs, which my team actually Mitch and JQ went and filmed the first ever reintroduction into the wild. And that was, I believe, six birds two years ago, and then Ventara and ACTP and the Brazilian government in collaboration, just released two or three days ago, two or three weeks ago, whatever it was, 42, 41 spix macaws back into the wild. That's fantastic. But what's even more fantastic is they've gone through all the trouble of like assuring that these animals that were extinct in the wild are now going to thrive.

Like they've removed the goats. They've planted trees. They've tried to get rid of the invasive bees. It's like full picture conservation. And all of this has come about by this crazy guy. who's like, fuck you conservation organizations, I'm just going to do this because if I don't, the animal's going to disappear.

And I think it's awesome. Probably a rare instance of somebody like that doing that and then it's succeeding at such a grand scale. Like you wouldn't recommend like some. There's that guy and then there's the guy that goes and releases the goldfish into the pond. Of course. But the difference is having,

it doesn't need to be education like you need to go to university. You just have to make educated decisions. Like the PETA folks that go and buy fucking grocery store main lobster and throw them into the San Diego Bay are idiots and assholes and they're hurting the environment. Right. This guy, Smart and Schmuth or whatever the hell I made up his name. Yeah. He actually like studied this and was like, holy shit, if I don't do something, these birds are going to go away while conservation organizations sit around and argue and protect, you know, their few birds. Right.

And it, you know, so it's just a different thing. It's not like I'm an activist, I'm an eco-terrorist, I'm going to go do this thing. It's like, hey, I made like a good choice here for the good of a species. And he did. It's a plan. I mean, it's kind of parallel to something you would do that sanctioned that you got all the permits and the approval for whatever you had to do for most of the permits and approval. And then went out and followed through the plan and coordinated with other organizations that were working towards the same thing, whereas kind of the eco-terrorist. side of it. Like, you can't just

reintroduce, you know, these lobsters into the ocean where their habitats are already decimated or there's some now other non-invasive species that's taken over there. And now you're just starting a war of lobsters in the ocean. This is interesting.

I was just reading about the macaw and how they sort of made the comeback. So all of the 200 plus that are alive between captivity and the ones that were released descend from seven birds. Yeah.

So all of the currently living birds, the gene pool started with seven birds in Switzerland. Does that explain why, though? Because there's an interesting reason to that. Was it, was it the Sheikh, the guy, the Qatari guy? So the Qatari guy, my understanding, and again, this is all hearsay.

So people can fact check this or look it up online. But my understanding is the Katari guy was the one who financed Martin Schmuth or whatever I said his name was. Well, that would track. Because, yeah, that would track because he basically rounded up as many of the birds as he could and started a breeding program in Qatar. The birds that he rounded up in Qatar are, I forget what it was, but basically I think it was two males and five females. And one of the males was infertile.

So it was all down to one horny bugger to do the whole job. And literally this guy, like, he just had the dream job. He was just like pipe chicks as much as you can. And that's what he did. He just, he laid more pipe than a plumber and, uh, create, saved the species. Well, he got up to, yeah, they got up to 64, 64 birds in that facility now. Pretty awesome. So I love that story.

I love the whole plight of the Spix McCaw. Kyle, see if you can. Uh, it's on, I think it's called Vega Bond. It's Mitch and JQ's, uh, YouTube channel. And it has the reintroduction of the Spix McCaw. This is the only footage that exists of it. none of this makes any sense to me, not just the whole Spix McCaw story,

but this, Mitch and JQ got high, I got contacted and then I was like, I can't help much with this, use my camera guys, because they got hired to film the reintroduction of the Spix McCall, the first one ever.

It was like six birds or something two years ago. And they filmed it all and edited it all beautifully for our nefarious guy that I'm mentioning. And then he was like, yeah, cool, I don't really want it. So they just put it on their YouTube channel. What's their channel called? what's their channel called Kyle?

You can pop on for a second. Well, we got the video playing here too, right? Is this it? It is Vagabond. Okay, this is them, though. These are the birds. Look how beautiful they are that actually went back into the wild. And they filmed and edited this whole thing.

Mitch and JQ, just go scrub forward to the three and a half hours it took for the birds to actually leave the nest. So the way they did it was really interesting, too. Because I know we've talked about this many, many times. Because you can't just dump birds in the wild, like they won't survive. it, you know, like you have to do it carefully. Yeah. They had this whole program, which was like the soft release, so you can see the radio trackers on the birds, which they're

wearing there. And man, I'm trying to remember what species it was, but they used another species kind of like a judas goat, you know, like to show them what to do. And I don't remember what the other species was, but they basically made the spix macaws friends with another species.

And then... Wait, was that Peter's wife? Dude, I thought the same thing. Legit, there's just cut to a shot of Peter's wife. She is hot. Can you bring that back? Oh, wow. That looks a lot like that.

It's pretty alarming. Yeah. Well, alarming for you. Is this her previous life? Was she a spikmachau? Was she a spik. I don't know,

but I'm turned on right now. I will say. Anyway, let's finish the juice. Goet things is interesting. So for their soft release, maybe Kyle will find it or somebody will find it, but they used another species that was native and comfortable there, put them into captivity.

made the Spix friends with those and then let those ones out first. And then after a week or so, they opened the door for the Spix. And they're like, all right, go find your buddies. And it took the Spicks, because they'd been raised in captivity. They left the doors open so the Spicks could come and go. But it took the Spicks like three hours to actually leave the cage and go like, all right, let's go check this out. And then they went looking for their buddies.

And their buddies were like showing them around. Dude, that is like Judas goading. That's amazing. I've never heard of that. Didn't know that was a thing. And it's like, you know, I always learned. something fascinating. Well, probably like once an episode now. It used to be like three or four times. And that's, that's it for this episode. I mean, it's unbelievable that they went out, like, just

hanging out with their buddies like, oh, yeah, check it out. You get to see, check this out over here. Oh, look at this beautiful river. Like, yep, here's a good nesting ground. Here, see, there they are. See the Judas parents there? Yeah. Yeah. Totally different birds. And they're like, hey, buddies, like, this is pretty sweet over here. And then, yeah, that all led to the first ever. returning to the wild of the Spix McCaw. And now, two years later, the big pot of 41 has gone back. So anyway, it's a lot of time on Spix McCaw. But it's a really cool story.

So, and then right now we're at, we have, we went from 16 back in, what was that? Two years ago. Oh, 16 was in the early 90s. And now we're back up to like estimated. I think there's several hundred in captivity, maybe over a thousand. I don't know. I think it's definitely not a thousand. I think it's a couple hundred.

Any in the wild? Do we not know? Are they tracking them? Or are they? Oh, no. What do you type? It's literally what we've just talked about. Well, that's what I was saying.

So estimated in the wild. Like the ones in captivity, yeah, there's a few hundred. But like in the wild, there's, is there, do you think there's hundreds, thousands now? Do they track it? Am I having a stroke? No. I don't know what. So, so Peter, I'm not making fun of you at all.

It's okay. You can. I mean, I don't catch every little thing. I was so engulfed in the Judas birds. It's the. entire that Judas bird story and the entire news story. So this all started when I said, Kyle, what's your favorite? What's in the news story?

Everything we've talked about is that there were none in the wild. And for the first time, they just released several of these birds into the wild. Okay. I think I got a little confused because you said a couple of years ago, Mitch and them released a few. And then the new story, they released, they released more. I'm confused by that too. Okay. Sorry.

Well, it seems like you got it. Seems like you got it. I'm just saying, is it like, is there 10 birds? Is there 100? 52. 52. Thank you. That's all I needed.

Why not just say, hey, there was 52? The first group went out with Mitch and JQ in 2022, I believe. And then 41 were released last month. Okay. Gotcha. I missed that 41 last blur because I was so intrigued with the Judas birds. You know what? You cleared it up for those that weren't listening.

Well, and those who are pretty stoop. layman like me who are listening to the podcast. Oh, that's cool. Kyle just said in May of 2024, three chicks were born in the wild and one of them flew for the first time. Oh, that's awesome. So, you know, it's all working. It's a really fucking just great story, man. Honestly, be still my heart. Still my, I'm going to start saying that. That's a nice way to speak. I've taught my child to say that to adults he encounters. And they all just are like, oh, oh. Funny is my, one of my daughter's little male friends that she's, loves.

A little male humans that she loves. We went to the park last week and he was doing this thing where he was being like at your service and I was like he should lose that real quick. Yeah. It's fucking annoying and like the white night thing. At your service, my lady. I've told this story. I think of the pod before.

It's like don't teach your kids to say I have a catchphrase. Oh, no. A catch phrase. But not not just that. Like at your service and then letting her take a turn. or something or like you've done something for them. I told you about that girl Katie with the name on the arm, embarrassing story. And then we were like doing this gymnastics things.

We were all taking turns jumping off this thing. And I would just keep like stepping back and be like, you go first. You go first every time. You don't want you don't want your kid doing that. I did it. And I'm still scarred by it. What do you mean? What do you did it?

I kept like like, okay. So he was like at your service, at your service. Like I was like, no, no, you go ahead. You go ahead in front of every time in line. I would just let her go. And she was like, okay, thanks. And it just, it's so embarrassing when I think back to it. I just want to slip.

Let's play a game. Yeah. Do we have a jingle? Kyle, do we have a jingle? He doesn't know how to use the jingles in the virtual studio. I know. Nope. Well, let's add one for fun in silence.

Okay. What's the game called? Mmm. It's called the. Native language game. I don't know what game. we're playing. Thank you. K for that jingle. All right. All right. What do we got? Let's get Kyle to pop on screen here. Let's get him to mispronounce every word. Make sure he's using the correct

mic. Can you hear me? Can you hear me right now? I hear you, but I also hear the construction going on out your window, but that's okay. It's just infuriously ejaculating. That's true. It's just like, well, there's something in staining happening with your mic. Is it sound all right? No. Yeah. You're going to have some work to do in post. I mean, you're talking into the mic. You keep pulling it closer, but it's doing nothing. So that makes you think there's another mic somewhere.

Yeah, someone hit a plant mic in your room. Something's happening. It's not exactly happening. Catch your sneaky dudes. All right. Let's play. It's the native language game. Do we have one of those lined up?

Oh, yeah. I sure do. How's it work, Kyle? How's it work? So there's a very strange looking word on the screen in front of me that is essentially the native language of an animal. I'm going to say it. Of an animal's name.

I'm going to say it and you guys are going to guess what the animal is and where it's from. Okay. Yeah. Okay. First up is blue will de bees. Say it with an accent, please. Blue will de bees.

Blue will be bees. Blu. That's. Blow will de bees. Yeah. Okay. So blau, I think gives a hint. And I'm not smart enough to know, but like blau gives it.

a hint to the actual origin. Maybe you guys that'll help you. I mean, it says wildebees. So I'm thinking of the blue wildebeest. Yeah. But it could also be wild sounds like blue. Yeah, that one. Well, also Kyle said blue four times.

He literally said blue wildebeest. Yeah. I mean, that's what Kyle said. All right. I'm going to go with the blue. I think it's the blue wildebeest, but in the language of, I think it's the, uh, it's the, uh, it's Norwegian. for blue wildebeests.

Okay. Okay. I'm going to go with the, uh, the sad wild bees of turkey. Okay. Sad. They're blue isn't sad.

Yeah. Sadly, uh, like Patrick, I have to guess the obvious, which is that it's a blue wildebeest in, oh, sounds German. So in German,

I guess. Wow. What is it? So it is blue wildebeest, uh, in Afrikaans. Oh. I was going to say Afrikaans, but that was too on the nose.

Weirdly, I think Peter was the closest with the sad bees of Turkey. All right, no points awarded. For a music album. Well, I think we don't we get half a point for Blue Wildebeest? Oh, because we all said it was wildebeest, except Peter said it was sad bees. Yeah, I get a full point for bringing entertainment to the podcast. You get a full point for creativity. Yeah, half points across the board.

All right. All right. Next up, Chang. I know this because it's a, I have a tank top that says Chang on it. Everybody who's been to Thailand has the same tank. Everyone who's been to Thailand bought one of these tank tops for a dollar and drank about 400 Chang beers. It's Thai for Elephant. Two for Thai for Elephant.

I mean, I'll just, there's a book called Tiki, Tiki Tembo. And in the book, if you've ever read it, the child. Yeah, there is. It's, uh, the mother. It was a tradition in, in China. where they would give a child a really, really long name. And kind of the longer the name of the child, the more prestige you would have.

But then what happens in the book is that the brother of this kid named Tiki Tiki Tiki Tembo, No Sorrembo, Sherry, Barry, Ruch, Perry Pembo. That was his old name. Jesus. I can't believe you remembered any of that. So, so Rikiki Tiki Tiki Tembo fell into a well. And his brother, Chang, right?

he came back to his mother and tried to tell her, you know, Tiki Tiki Tembo, Shabububu, rabri, bra, bra, bra, bra, Bepo had fallen to a well, but he ran out of breath, and his brother basically turned because he couldn't get his mom to know, he couldn't get the name out quick enough for the mom to get there to save the kid from the well. Oh, God. So,

Where was the story written? Is this like, is this like a pre-World War I German story? Like, what is it? the 1500s. This baby is now from the well. I'm telling you.

My wife was like, we need to get this book for our kid. I remember from our childhood. It is the most obnoxiously long fucking book in the world. It's horrible whenever he asks me to read it. I hate it because you got to say the name over and over.

That's how I know it. But anyways, Cheang was the name of the brother. And the moral of the story is that they need to really shorten the name. of their kids. So that's why you'll see that

Chinese kids name, Chinese kids are named with one Chang, this or that. So for my, whatever, for my answer, I will say that Chang is a Chinese child. That was the longest explanation to answer that I've ever heard.

Kyle? Okay, well, it's not that. It's, uh, it is elephant in time. You're so annoyed that that's not what it was. I mean, I knew it wasn't to be that, but I hated that you guys knew immediately because Pat's got a shirt with it on it. Dude, anyone who's been to Thailand does, anyone.

It is the most drank beer. And what's the craziest part about it, like Mexican hot sauce when you go to Mexico, is the second you step back, put back in the USA and you go to a Thai restaurant and order it, it tastes terrible. In Thailand, it's incredible. Is that true? I don't think I've had one in the U.S. It's all skunked.

It doesn't make any sense to me. All those things that overseas are unbelievably delicious. And then you get home and order the exact same thing. And you're like, this is revolting. I have a theory that's anything in a green bottle is skunked. Which is like a hikin, it's definitely, legit tastes like dog shit. It's horrible. And I used to like it.

And now I have a hyniquin and I'm always like, is this skunked or is this how it has always tastes? No, that's how it is. It skunks, man. Well, they're not going to become a sponsor anytime soon. They never were. I would say no. I would have said no.

I swear to God. Yeah. That is a brand we would say no to. It's dog shit. I wouldn't order it. I wouldn't order it. Fair enough. All right.

Let's do one more. Elaborately long name question. Pick the best one if we're only doing one more. All right. A couple more. Next one is gom. How you spell it? GOM.

That's better. GOM. I could hear Peter typing it into chat GPT. Bro! I did not. Show your hands. Where your hands. Gum.

Gum. GOM. All right. Patrick. I think it's, I think it's that, what's that super muscular cow called a, was it a guar? It's a guar. And it's our gar or whatever. I can't say it in Danish.

All right. I'm going to say that this is a guppy in Guamming. Guam-Well, Kyle would know. Yeah. Right? No, his mom's Filipino. Yeah. Oh, that's right.

Sorry, he's Filipino. She keeps trying to friend me on Facebook, by the way. He never dropped that. I swear to God. Gomm, gom, gom, gom, gom, gom, gom, gom, gom, is, it's some Sri Lankan word for a large bird. What large bird? Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Close. Uh, for an egret. Okay. Uh, it's wrong across the board. It's bare. In Korean. I made you clarify what bird. I'm glad he made me clarify what bird.

You got a little, well, you got excited because you thought you were right. Very excited. I was like, no way. I'm on to something here. One more. One more. I like this game. One more.

Okay. One more. Let's see. Let's see. What kind of bird? Yeah. Seriously. I mean, that's good producing, though, if you ask me.

I like Kyle's hat. I like his elk hat. I'm going to go imboon. Dead upside down elk on his hat. Spell it. M-B-L-U. I-M-B-U-L-U. Oh, man.

Okay, I got it. This is a, uh, uh, uh, one of the, uh, like natives of Australia, like, you know, their native tongue. I don't know what the name of their, uh, of their actual tribe is, but one of them and it is an elk in Bulu. This is Swahili. It's like native for an elk. It's Swahili for some sort of bovid that runs really quickly,

some sort of antelope that exists in Africa. I'm following, I'm tracking what Pat's saying. Of course you are. Oh, shut up. I speak some of the, a little bit of these languages. So it sounds like a tribal African language.

So I'm going to say that it's, what did you, did you already take Swahili? I said Swahili, yeah. All right. Well, Edwin likes to trick me and put Shawna Ones and there that I should know. I'm going to say it's Shawna for

imbolo. For let me look at my African animal map. Get the fuck out of here, dude. It was dog. Stop! It's Shawna for a caricle. For a cat named a caricle.

Again, wrong across the board. Damn it. You're getting all upset like I was going to get it. No, I'm upset and I'm going to tell you why after he tells us the answer. Okay. Okay. So it's chameleon for. or in Kosa.

Kosa. Kosa. What's Kosa? Kosa is the like, it's a native language of, well, Africa. Are you laughing at what I said? It says here that it's,

it's a Bantu language, Southern Africa, South Africa, Zimbabwe. Yeah. I'm laughing because you said Kosa Rica and then cracked up at your own joke. And then called you out and asked if you were also laughing at you.

I was just like, It was just laughing. The reason it made me laugh is because I'm like, he's just, he's in that place where he feels so good because he just had a big glass of wine. Well, I actually like, this will be the last of the full bottle in just two tall glasses. But I do want to say this. I'm the first one that came out and said it is like a native of a tribe in Africa, or not in Africa.

I said in Australia, what I meant was like an African tribe. I just want to point that out. I am the one that definitely jogged your guys in. push you into that lane. But the fact that you have a fucking poster to cheat at the game just over there you're looking at in your garage, you have all these words?

Are you colluding with Edwin? Yes, I have every language animal poster. It's not every language. In the world on my wall. No, just Afrikaans and other tribal languages from Africa. Only in English. Here, I will prove it to you.

Prove it right now. You guys want one more? Yeah, of course. There's my map. See it? There it is. All right. All right, yeah. I mean, honestly, even decipher anything out of that would be if fucking genius could do. Yeah, it's literally just African animals that I referenced when I thought it was an African word. That's all.

I get it. Listen, I'm not trying to beat you down. I'm just saying I was kind of the one that pushed you guys towards like this name of tongue. Hey, Peter, or Patrick, I get a quarter point. Peter gets two points for that. Oh, two points. Don't be facetious, you son of a bitch. No, you want a quarter point, Kyle.

You want pity points? No, I don't. I want a fair. quarter point. Yeah. Okay. Well, good job.

And I want you to put both of them to zero. You feel good about your win? And both of them to zero. All right. One more. Last one. Okay. Nanook.

Nanook of the North. This is obviously Inuit for polar bear. Dude, is it Nanook of the North? The movie they made you watch in high school where he was like getting with the dude's Eskimo wife and all that? Not that I've seen. I didn't. I don't know that one.

You're probably right. I think that's a porn hub that you look at. I'm going to say this is Greenlandic for Muskocks. Nice. I'm definitely going with, you know, where the igloos are. Nanduk of the North was a 1922 American silent film that confines elements. Yeah. And they feature heavily seals.

So I'm going to go with a seal from wherever Nandnook of the North was from. No, come on. Say at least a continent. Uh, Alaska. Not a continent. Okay. But that's where Nanook was from. Yep. All right.

By the way, seven points, 100% on the rotten tomatoes. There you go. For us with the full point. Really? Get the fuck out of here. Greenlandic, polar bear. No, I said Inuit. I don't know if that's the same.

So it says here that it's, you might have to help me out here, Patrick. Palli-a-suit. Kalali-suit. How is he supposed to help you by you pronouncing it? It says it's the Inuit language of Greenland. Oh, shit. I smash that. And it's polar bear?

Wow. All right. All right. Well, since they were both down to zero, Forrest now has one and I have a quarter point. Pat's still zero. I don't know how that's possible. All right.

What's the real score? That was actually really fun. Who cares? Oh, well, that was good. I like that game. Every time we play that game, I like that game. That's a good game.

I feel like I learned something that I immediately forget. When I think, and it's a little bit too late to tell the brochures to chime in underneath in the comments, but they should be playing along. I gave myself too much headroom when I moved my camera back. Dude, you know that infuriates me. I do. Well, look at yours. You have inches of headroom. Well, I try to do this, but then I'm like, as I get older, I hunch more and more.

Yeah. Look at Pat. He's. Am I hunting? No, no. Yours is like, you're making sure. Your framing is good. There's no space whatsoever, which is good.

I have a weird. like as a director, because a lot of DPs will frame things up with like that much headroom. Yeah. I don't like headroom. Like I'd rather do a little haircut. Well, it's interesting because I can tell right now,

like Pat, your camera is like a little bit higher, it looks like. And so it's like pointing down a little bit. Because my camera is very high coming down. And this is very boring for the listeners. But the forest camera is like, anyways, you look like, like Don Rickles. I've always just loved Don Rickles name. Or Don I miss.

All right. I like it. Oh, I've got to take a full bottle of wine. Let me alone. Yeah. We haven't done the segment in a while, but it's,

the weather has really changed. Like, it went from like, you know, like 60 during the day to like now it's like 78 every day in LA. And sunny. Yep. And so I started doing something and it made me think we should,

we should bring back the segment called Little Joyce. Ooh, I haven't done that in a hot time. Love this segment. So it's funny. I've people, when I do look at Instagram messages, which is like once every six months, I remember people being like, dude, I tried your little joy. Like people liked hearing from us. Just a little thing that like you might text a friend like, hey, I've been doing this.

And it's awesome. And I actually did text this to a couple people. Okay. Here's my little joy. Wake up. Before I do anything work related. So I get my kids to school first, right? Yeah. I get back. I just get on my bike and I just do like a just put some tunes in and I just do like a four four to five mile. It takes like 20 minutes. Not a long bike ride.

Just ride my bike in the sun listening to music. Yeah. Then come back shower and start my day. It's like not super strenuous. It's just like 20 minutes of moving your body, moving your legs and just like being in the sun. Yeah. Well, this doesn't have to take long. Could only be like 10 minutes. It's just like. Oh, yeah. It's nice. It's a really good reminder. I mean, like, I feel like this is something that Forest probably takes for granted because he just does this naturally every morning. He probably goes and jerks off with a toad in the creek behind his house. I do. Most of the is. Yeah, I'm just saying.

Don't you don't? It's very nice for those of us who, like, just have to get up and, like, either go straight to work or go straight to dealing with kids. It is very nice to go outside and step into the sunshine and take a whiff of the outside air. Dude, just listen to some good tunage first thing in the morning, you know, like, quiet, quiet. That's my little. Are you doing that pre-eating or drinking anything other than water?

Yeah. Well, I wake up. I have my half glass of water that next to my bed. So I slug that. Yeah. Then I get the kids off to school, but I haven't eaten or drank anything. But it's not, like I said, it's not hard. It's not strenuous.

No, it's easy. It's casual. I got a little joy. And this is something I've been doing since I battled back. my depression by getting back into the gym. You, you, so I've created like a catalog, I wouldn't say like I'm a musical artist, but I've made many songs where I either sing

or like have put together like some riffs and whatever. And I have like a little library of like three or four or five. And so what I'll do now is when I'm in the car by myself, I just put on my own creations that I have made. And I'm just, this goes back to fucking like, I'm talking like before high school. I have a cassette tape that I did digitize. That's like me playing acoustic guitar, which is obviously like horrifically embarrassing. But when I listen to it, I'm like, oh yeah.

Like, man, life was so much simpler back then. And shit. And I just pop it on. And it's completely forgotten. Like I would never share it with anybody. But I listen to it myself and I'm like, man, that's what life was like back then. and this is what life is like now. So Little Joy, whatever you have done creatively

throughout your years and those moments that you were inspired, whether it's something you wrote or something, just take it out, pictures you've taken, look at them and be like, yeah, man, that was good. And life is good. That's it. Interesting. I like it.

I like it. I have one. It's kind of bizarre, but I'm spending way too much time on my phone and on social media because I'm sitting on plane so much. I'm traveling so much. So I end up, you know, like, I'd probably rather sit on Instagram for an hour than watch two episodes of a TV show on an airplane. So I have Wi-Fi on every plane. So that's what I've been doing. But I've started to and I bought Zero. I just, I was telling Justice the other day, I don't have any hobbies anymore. I used to be all about my

rugby and my spearfishing and blah, blah, blah. I don't have time for it. All I do is like work and shoot and travel and blah, blah, blah. So I was telling you, I was like, I need a new hobby. I need something new to like learn about and be get involved in and i i haven't purchased any but i've started and you guys know me i'm not very materialistic i've started learning about watches what makes a chronograph how you build a watch uh all of these different various like little like the styles of watches uh men's watch about how they're built yeah all the intricacies of watches because it's really interesting there's history to watches when they first came about and i've just started and it's just on instagram that's why i'm

I'm not like, I'm not pretending I'm an officiant. Building watches in your garage yet. But I'm just, I'm just learning. Like, I'm watching watchmaker videos. You're learning about something new. Completely new. Like, for me, it's always like, oh, I'm going to learn about something new. Let's look into birds of South America.

Right. Well, it's not really, it's pretty adjacent to everything I do. So learning about something new that is completely out of your wheelhouse. Like, that's the little joy. But I find it cool because, like, I find watches beautiful, even though I know nothing about them. You know what I mean? And like, it's not like I want to have 10 watches.

I'm just learning about them now. and like how they're made and watchmakers, German versus French versus Swedish or Swiss. Yeah, it is interesting. Like I, a new hobby. You think about the first person to build a functioning watch. Yeah,

that's it. Stick that technology on your wrist. Pat, I know you, I know you got a jet so you want to do sign off. I'm going to keep chatting with forest. Yeah, we'll chat for a bit.

See you, buddy. I love you. Later. Later. But dude, it's been, it's been a weird and interesting little like visual journey where I'll

click on a new watchmaker. I'll learn about what they're doing. I'll look at the history of their company. I'll look at their styles of watches. There are so many styles. I thought a watch was a watch, smart watch analog watch. Not at all.

No. There's like a thousand. I don't even know that much about watches, but I've definitely watched, you know, because I've always been into like the inner workings of like kind of mechanical things and electronics. Like I've built computers and things of this nature. So I,

like I haven't like done deep dives into watches, but I've watched videos that like, that, like, show you the insides of, like, these watches and how they work and, like, how they keep time in, like, a precise manner. And, like, because it's so fascinating because it's like, anyways, I don't want to get into the craziness of it. But, like, and they're also very different in how they keep time and, like, how they do it accurately and how often you have to set them and everything. But I think, like, that little joy man, where you kind of take a step outside of the stuff

you normally do and maybe get into like a new thing like I had recently uh but my kids I've gotten them into the planets the solar system and that has then gotten me into the fucking solar system totally and I'm just like fascinated by it again and how everything spins around the sun and how there's a billion galaxies within the universe and a billion stars in every galaxy and all this shit and I keep just like I'm just like wow you know there's just so many things the little joy i think is just remembering that like there's things out there that you can get into that you maybe never thought you were into that are super fucking interesting that's it that that have nothing to do with your everyday life yeah yeah good i love it good little joy all right

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