Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Analyzing Potential Thylacine Footage, Ocean Monster Filmed, & Gorilla vs Bear Fight

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:53 What a day we're having. Look at Peter. Head to toe Wild Times merch. Yeah. Water bottle too, baby. And the water bottle. I'm your host, Forrest Galanghi, the broologist. This is the world's greatest wildlife and comedy podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Don't care who you ask. Elon Musk says it's his favorite. He says it's his favorite. He also says it's the only one he's ever seen where three adult men sit with their legs crossed for an hour. Oh, yeah, look at that. And one of wear short shorts. Look at this foot wiggle with all the stuff that you've given me paid. I'm more of a tap.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Why is your tongue blue? I'm tapping. Why is your tongue blue? I had a candy. Did you really? What kind? He ate a candy. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:01:28 What kind of? 10 in the morning? It's 10 a.m. Candy time. That a boy. Was that mushroom gummy? A little sweet treat. Oh, what a guy. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Well, that's Peter. He's eating candy at 10 in the morning. He is Ph.D. in podcasting. Not anymore. Actually, Kyle pretty much does all that now. Yes, true. I'm his assistant. And then the producer himself in the middle.
Starting point is 00:01:47 How we doing, boy? What's up? Dude, I'm really excited to be with you guys. These days are fun. Here's the thing. I was the last three nights. I, or the last two nights, I had night shoots.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Uh-huh. So I filmed until like 3.30 in the morning. By the time I got home, it's like 4.15. That's like old Patrick DeLuca. I know. Yeah. And I love doing this stuff, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Because it's fun. You're lighting, big setups. You're making some creepy stuff. Until the next day. Dude, kids still get up at 7.30, whatever. Yeah. So it's back to back nights. So last night, like 4.30 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I'm like, fuck. You got to go record tomorrow. God damn it. I just want to sleep all day. And I was like, wait. I'm just going to go, like, have a couple of drinks. drinks and bro out and have fun. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:31 But I'll tell you what, two nights in a row of less than three hours sleep, you still wake up feeling way better than a mild hangover. Oh, definitely. Just a mild I had one bottle of wine over two hours. Completely agree. It's still so, you feel so much better than just having a few drinks. Well, you might be, Kyle, pull this up. I just read this.
Starting point is 00:02:54 You might be a very special person. I mean, we all know you are. Okay. Thank you. Kyle, take a look at this. I read this literally this morning. Scientists just discovered a new gene of a very few, a very rare amount of people less than 1% or something that actually thrive on under, it's between, I believe it's between three and six hours of sleep. Wow. Whereas everybody else in the world, you know, requires seven to eight, but there's this gene.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Here you go. There, what's the say? It's a mutation. Kyle. A mutation in the ADRB1 gene has identified in people who can thrive on significantly less sleep around six or less. But the study, the headline that I read, I didn't read the study. The headline said that it's basically three hours is the number for people with this mutation. And it says, yeah, they have no negative health. What the fuck? Effects. That's the word.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Consequences. That's one of the problems. Yeah, it is. So, yeah. I don't have the gene. It's really interesting. Go ahead. It's funny, though, that you mentioned that just because this weekend I drank
Starting point is 00:03:57 one bottle of wine and then I woke up with, I wasn't even hung over, but I felt horrible. I mean, I was a little hungover. But the following day, I wasn't able to sleep. I got maybe four hours of sleep and I felt like significantly better than I did the day before. The problem is, if you don't have this gene, of course, as you go through the day, by the time, like 6 p.m. rolls around. If you have anything that requires mental thought, you're just like, you can't.
Starting point is 00:04:27 or physical, physical anything. At like six, you're dead. And then you can't sleep again for some weird reason, even though you're very tired. Well, I think this is a good opportunity to announce something. What do you guys think? You know what I'm talking about? Do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah, let's announce. I think you need Kyle to do it. Yeah, I'm not getting out of my chair. I'm too lazy. Set up the back story. I was just trying to figure out how this gene works. Yeah. Continue reading.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I don't think they really know. They just said that they analyzed over a hundred short sleepers who are people who just function well on less than six hours sleep. Yep. And a lot of them had the same gene mutation. I guess the theory is that all of the things that sleep does for us, like repairing damage and detoxifying and all that, their bodies just function at a faster level. That's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So it's like, you know, imagine you have a pool filter that just runs at 80 RPMs. There's is running at like 150. GPs, gallons per hour. Gallons of booze taken out per hour. There's just, oh, yeah, you know? No, I'm excited because I really want one. Let's set it up because we all hung out this weekend. Yeah, so over the weekend, I had a barbecue.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Peter and Pat came up and we decided to spend the afternoon out on the boat. I prefer cummed. I cummed up. Did I say that? Did I say something wrong? Peter's tongue was blue. Yeah. I'm talking about my blue tongue, you litigris.
Starting point is 00:05:48 10 a.m. Candy eater. Well, you said, so you said, do you want to go see the white sharks? Right. And Peter had never been out on the boat and seen the white sharks with us. us. Right. They put me in a white shark costume. I wish. And told me I had to mate with one. So we went out, we went on the boat, and my buddy Tyler had sent me these drinks. He'd sent me these light strike drinks. And look, it's no secret. We're all getting a little bit older. We're just sitting
Starting point is 00:06:13 here griping about how bad booze makes us feel. It's also no secret that they're our new sponsor. Well, no, it's no secret at all. But this is what I'm building towards. Now that we can't drink six beers a day like we used to when we started this pod four years ago. We've all got very excited after feeling pretty good after drinking a bunch of light strikes on the boat. That's right, baby. So morning booze drinks for us. Yeah, here we go, little drum roll. And it's 10 a.m. right now.
Starting point is 00:06:38 10 a.m. Kyle, bring him out. Boom. Okay. Thank you, brother. Hard refresher. Yeah. Patrick, explain what a light strike is. So it's about the same amount of alcohol as a beer. Yep.
Starting point is 00:06:49 So 5% alcohol. Oh, it's good. It's Gatorade with vodka. It's real fun. This is a problem because this taste. really good. You can't even... So easy to drink.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I mean, disclaimer, like, don't drink in the morning like me. No, do. Listen, we are currently. Yeah, do it. Can you guys, I don't even taste really alcohol in this. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:09 This is, I think this is made for rugby guys. Because you're like, it's like drinking at Gatorade. You're like, I'm going to hydrate and go play, but then you just get angry because you've had booze.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Well, look, Tyler sent you the case and was like, yo, hand these out to your rugby bros and check them out on, you know, maybe you guys be interested. Yep. The Wild Times guys. Uh, because you're a broie.
Starting point is 00:07:27 literally, we've created this product for frat guys. Yeah, which we're just aged out frack guys. Yeah, we've completely aged out. This is a game changer. We're the old frat guy who has a room in the basement and everyone's like, why, like, it's really weird. You guys know, like, you've come into the studio and I've been on like my second IPA and it'll be like 10 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Typically, yeah. Because like, you know, I'm not, maybe I'm a little bit of an alcoholic, but sometimes, like, when I want to come and have fun, it's like, you know, and be here and be loose and like have some laughs and put on a good show for the people. You got it like if you're tired, you know, you have coffee. It wears off. Maybe you have a magic mind. It gives you another boost.
Starting point is 00:08:07 But the light strike, this is like, this is healthy, I feel like for me. Yeah. So real quick, it's not. It's healthier than what you normally sludge on your goal. And it's also not too sweet, which is like what I find repulsive about anything that's not beer. But here's the thing and we'll move on from this. It's the only sponsor to the pod. We're stoked.
Starting point is 00:08:26 we really like them, as you can tell. 170 calories, only 7 grams of sugar in a bottle. Get your little buzz on, get hydrated. They taste delicious. It's fun. It's a new category. It's an exercise drink with food. I mean, I feel like you could bring you to the gym and not be judged.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'm going to use it in a sauna. What do you think? No one would judge you because people don't know what it is yet. So they would just think it was a gatorade. Yeah, give it a few months. Yeah. That's true. So I texted Forrest yesterday, Peter, because I came.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I wanted to ask more, but I was busy. I, is it, so I almost stepped on a snake. Okay. And it took off and I could tell it wasn't a rattlesnake. Yep. But I didn't know what it was. But the snake was the most elegant mover. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It was fast. It went straight to this fence and just climbed the fence and like went up to a second like tier of dirt. And quick, right? Seemingly all in one motion too. Yeah, it was so fast. It was like a little ballerina. So I texted you, I said, what's a black snake with two, I could have Googled this.
Starting point is 00:09:30 That's okay. A black mamba? No, I said what's a black snake with two yellow stripes? And it's a California racer. Kyle, look it up. Mastikophis lateralis is the Latin name. Beautiful snake, one of the largest snakes we get in the state of California. This had to be like a good four footer.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Very long, very skinny. Oh, it's a pretty snake. There it is right there. Very beautiful snake. That's the one you saw. I've seen one of these before, actually. Yeah. So this time of year, they're the most abundant.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So it's early summer like now. Once it gets too hot, they're pretty much underground. But this time of year they're out. They're moving around. They're hunting. And they are fast. These things move so quickly. I couldn't believe how fucking fast this thing moved.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So here's my question. Why did it let me almost step on it? I was probably like two to three feet from it. It was probably bacon in the sun warming up. Just a little chilly. Cold-blooded man. There's somebody with a juvenile right there. But it was probably, yeah, I was probably just starting to warm up.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Aggressive at all? No, not at all. I mean, they'll bite you. if you pick them up, you know, but I've caught dozens of them. And more often than not, they have like an initial burst freak out, which is, by the way, what they do. They freak out. They bolt.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And then they just relax and you can handle them and chill out and stuff like that. You said, was it, it was lizards, I think you, that I learned on this podcast where they have to, they can, they can't, like, bolt, but then they absolutely can't move after they, because they cool down or they gas out. They can't breathe and run at the same time. Oh, right. Yeah. So they compress their lungs when they're running because of.
Starting point is 00:10:55 of their morphology. So a lizard will run in a burst, then it has to stop and catch its breath and then run in a burst again. But it has nothing to do with cold blood it? It's just the lizard composition. Well, no. All reptiles will gas out pretty hard, and then they have to recharge. So they get their energy from the sun primarily. So
Starting point is 00:11:10 once that ATP is expended, once that energy is expended, they need to rest and they need to warm up again and recharge like a battery, and then they can explode again. It's why doing crocodile work is so incredibly dangerous because you catch a big crock or a big alligator or whatever, and you wrestle it for, you know, two, three, five minutes. Yeah. And then it basically goes
Starting point is 00:11:29 limp and you're like, fuck yeah, got them, you know? And then you're like, you, you loosen your grip and you become complacent. You let your knees go or whatever, depending on how you're holding it. And then five, six, seven minutes go by. Yeah. And the things recharge. And it's like, it's like they hit like a certain fill point, you know, like 60% and your phone powers on or whatever. And then they're just like, boom, and they explode again. But naturally, I don't care who you are. You've become complacent as the animals relax. Like you've loosened. your grip or you've calmed down and then they explode again. Settled down a little bit. It's gnarly. And yeah, all reptiles do that. Wow. So
Starting point is 00:12:02 alligators and crocs do that? Crocks are definitely worse, but yes, they both do. Well, they're way more vicious too, right? And they're just much, much stronger. I've never, a four-foot crock versus a four-foot alligator. It's not even close. Wow. Yeah. And I'm assuming the snake's named a racer because it races so fast. Correct. Dude, this thing's sweet. I might get one. Yeah, they're really cool. My buddy kept one. for a while. They're actually cool. And they're, they're very, um, because they're, uh, they're, uh, like a hunt down predator as opposed to a sit and wait predator, like a rattlesnake or whatever, sit and a weight predator, right? Sits coiled up. Something hops in front of a bam, land,
Starting point is 00:12:37 lunges out and grabs it. These guys are like active predators. Like they'll track down and run down their prey. Makes sense. Um, because that's their morphology, they're really cool to keep because you come and like knock on the glass or walk into the room and the snake comes out. It's like, hey, buddy, what's you doing? You know, it's like, looking at you like this. Yeah, yeah. Kyle, you have a bunch of weird friends. And obviously Forest Studio, too. Have you guys ever met someone who had a pet snake,
Starting point is 00:13:05 but where they kept just, the snake just had free range of the house? I've not experienced that. What about those big yellow boas? I feel like those are house pets. I've known guys who, yeah, I've known guys who'll take a big python or a big reticulated python or a boa or something and just let it cruise around the house.
Starting point is 00:13:22 But it's amazing how even like a, a 14 foot 200 pound snake can hide itself. Right. It'll curl up under your couch. You're like, where the hell did that giant thing just go? Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Like, that's just what they're good at. I want to bring up something that might help some brosters. I'd have a friend of mine hit me up. You might have hit you up too, Pat, but you have a cat and a dog, right? A big dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 My friend is thinking about getting a husky and he wants to know if that is doable with the cat he already has. And I was like, I think it depends on the animals, right? Yeah, depends on the individuals. Like, they could be chill or they could not. It doesn't matter if it's a husky and a tabby
Starting point is 00:14:01 or a husky and a Persian or a German shepherd and a... Yeah, I mean, my... If you have an adult cat, introducing a puppy... Peter's halfway down with his light strike, by the way. It's delicious. I think introducing a puppy when you have an adult cat is... That worked out fine for me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:20 But also, like, unintentionally. when I picked out my dog at the rescue it was part of a litter Yes yes we know You rescued the data The beta of the litter She was like a little bitch
Starting point is 00:14:32 Even to her brothers and sisters So like the cat was always Gonna dominate I think Yeah yeah But like point I feel like huskies I feel bad sometimes To have them inside
Starting point is 00:14:43 Well you just see so many of them In Southern California Where it's so hot I have a friend who's got a husky That he got it when it was like two It's like almost seven now and still surviving. I'm like, don't they die at like 12?
Starting point is 00:14:57 I think we've talked about this before on the pod, maybe a long time ago, but people do this, and I'm not saying that this is what your friend's done, but they go, I want to get a husky. They look cool. Yeah. They do you have a sled that it can pull?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Right. Do you have a sled and live in the Arctic? Because those are the requirements to have a husky. Yeah, for sure. People should only get dogs and buy dogs. Now, a rescue's different. That's a different situation. but if you're just going dog shopping,
Starting point is 00:15:24 do not buy a dog based on what you think looks cool. You have to get a dog that is suited to your life. Working dogs have to work. You know, hunting dogs have to hunt. You go buy a husky and put an apartment. It's going to be neurotic.
Starting point is 00:15:37 It's going to destroy your furniture. It's going to be miserable. I think that's why my dog, Charlie, is such a piece of shit. Well, he's not anything. Well, no, he's supposed to, like, partially his terrier breed that's in him, is supposed to, like, go and get small animals.
Starting point is 00:15:51 like retrieve or dig up, I think for hunters or whatever. He has every form of dog known to man in him. He is very neurotic. He should be on medication regularly, like antidepressants or something. Didn't he just bite you the other day? Probably. Oh, he just pissed all over the rug. Oh, he pissed right in front of me.
Starting point is 00:16:08 This just made me think of the Iditarod. And a buddy of mine who's from Alaska was telling me about this event called Arctic Man. You know about this? No, I never heard of it. Dude, so there's something called Arctic Man. I think they stopped it for a few years. but it's back. It's basically like a snow machine festival,
Starting point is 00:16:25 but it's a massive party in Alaska. Yeah, yeah. Just fucking mayhem, dude, like gambling drugs, like fucking hard party. Look up Arctic Man party. Even some of the pictures I just saw. It's like a guy on a snowmobile. Take out 2025, Kyle,
Starting point is 00:16:38 because I don't think it's happened yet. Come on, Kyle. So you're Googling something that doesn't exist that way. God, I'm so sick of him. But apparently it's just this fucking crazy. Whoa, look at that picture with the, what do they call it? Motorized Paraguers that? lighting thing? Yeah, like people are parachuting in. You got people on fucking snow plows and all these
Starting point is 00:16:57 weirds. Dude, look at that night one. It's like a burning man vibe at night with snow machines in the Arctic. That's insane. Wait, they have the effigy like Burning Man. Spark, a Burning Man story soundtrack. Wait, is that, does that it? That's insane. That's wild time. Yeah, I want to do this. Yeah, I want to do this. Got to be very much, though. In the Arctic somewhere. It's in Alaska. See where it is in Alaska, Kyle. Where is Arctic Man this year? How did you hear about this? I feel like you got to be in the know. Well, it's about everything. Yeah, I've a
Starting point is 00:17:28 guy I'm working with who's from born and raised in Anchorage. Okay. So he's just in is that where this is? Is it in Anchorage? Probably outside. You want to know where it is? I mean, yeah. It's located around the 197-198 mile marker of the Richardson
Starting point is 00:17:45 Highway. Of course it is. I go there all the time. It's like Burning Man. It's in the middle of the desert. For Burning Man, it's in the middle of the Alaska for this one. What date is it? What month? Because I've been to Alaska in several months, and October through February is utterly miserable.
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Starting point is 00:22:21 We always get together. And I'll be honest. I always feel like a bit of a dork because I have no idea what I'm talking about. Not this year, boys. Not this year. I got the HOF app. All of Fame. It is so good.
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Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah. And Forrest's been opting out. And now he's very competitive with us. Well, I've started not going because I'm just like, oh, I'm going to Pat's to lose 40 bucks. I'll see you later. Yeah. Well, no. So the HOF app is, it's an analytics engine, essentially.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's incredibly easy to use. You don't need to really even understand math. Yeah. But it helps you set up parlays. Like if you want to get in on NBA playoffs. Prop. and with a single click, you can send your bets to the most popular sports books. For limited time, only our listeners not only get a seven-day free trial,
Starting point is 00:23:23 but they also get 50% off their first month when they use the code wild at checkout. Just download the HOF app on iOS or Android. Enter code wild, and you're all set. It's funny how you are getting competitive about sports. I won $80 and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. Hey, Kyle, what's... We got a lot of good news.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You know, what's... Yeah. Okay, thank you. All right. What is in the news? I saw something that has been... Big news? Would you say colossal news?
Starting point is 00:24:01 Maybe you should have set this one up. Came across my leatherbound desk. Oh, you wrapped it in leather? Yeah, it's really nice. Nice. Yeah, it was plywood before. Vegan leather. A century after its discovery, scientists captured
Starting point is 00:24:15 first confirmed footage of a colossal squid in the deep. I thought this was AI when I saw it. I did too. I'm not going to lie. I had people like pinging it to me on Instagram. I was like, ah, this is fake. This is stupid.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's, dude, there's a subreddit called the Depths Below. So this is like every top post on there. Okay. I mean, dude, a colossal squid, which they've only seen them washed up along the beach before. So this is the first living one. Do we know what depth this was seen there by shit? I'm sure it says in the article.
Starting point is 00:24:44 What I'm more curious is. about is the size of us because, you know, they grow up to 23 feet long. They grew up to over a thousand pounds. Yeah. And this one looks about two inches. It's, it's so frustrating. It's really frustrating. There's no, there's no scale in the video. It's just the blackness of, of two thousand feet deep ocean. But it's definitely not big because you're seeing like these isopods and things, you know, these little, I don't know. It's like, so it must be a juvenile or a baby. It's definitely a juvenile. Kyle, go to the, oh, it's 12 inches. Kyle's highlighted it eight times to try and pointed out to us. So 12-inch juvenile colossal squid. So let me just ask you that this. Is it a colossal
Starting point is 00:25:20 squid then? No, it's a miniature squid. Not yet. They're just like at some point this will grow into something that we've still never seen. Correct. Yeah. No, it probably is. How are they saying that it's that it's conclusively a colossal squid? Maybe they, no, they wouldn't have touched it. It says the squid's identity was confirmed later by reviewing high definition footage showing it's distinctive mid-arm hooks. Okay. So that's something that only the colossal squid has. As far as we know.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So you send, what did they do? Was this like a submersible? Yeah. Schmidt Ocean Institute does all these deep C ROVs. Incredible footage. So they send this ROV down. They're like, maybe today's the day we get the first colossal squid alive. They grow up to 23 feet long.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Right. You're looking for something 23 feet long. Right. And then you find something the size of a thumbnail. Yeah. then this little rat swims in front of you. Here's what happens, though, because the deep sea is, it is a desert, right? There's like mostly nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Right. So you put that down there and nothing happens for 14 days. And then all of a sudden you get that and you're like, we got it. That's good enough. We're good. Well, to be fair, I mean, it is like what's that glowing with inside of it? It has glowing parts, I guess. It's eyes glow or something.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Is that on the adults too? wonder if that's the light that they're using, like, just reflect on it. It's got to be. Yeah. I don't, I don't think that they emit light like other deep. Go back to the video. I mean, it looks like it's made out of glass. Yeah. Right. Like the whole body part of the machine. It's saying that they're, they now believe it's part of the glass squid family, which is a family of squid that light up like this. Oh, okay. So that is emitting light. Interesting. Wow. So they, they must have just discovered that then, Kyle. Is that what it's alluded to? So they originally thought it was, you know, the natural reddish pink. form that we see when it's, you know, dead at the surface, but when it's in its form, kind of like the blobfish looks different at depth. My spear down. It does. So disappointing how the blobfish looks at depth. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It's just a normal fish. Yeah, come on. Yeah, but it wouldn't, nobody would know what it is until, I mean, it's named after what it looks like when it's dead. Because it's never not come to the surface, right? Imagine if they just named, named humans after what they look like when they're dead. God, look at that thing. We'd just be like skeletons.
Starting point is 00:27:38 No, they would just call you like bloating. Blob. Blotie. I mean, here's my advice to the colossal squid. Look at a giraffe that's born. Yeah. Giraff's a big animal. Yeah. Is it? Have you seen a newborn giraffe? Relatively newborn, like, within a few weeks. They're a few feet tall. They're like five feet tall. Oh, yeah. They're still big. Oh, yeah. Maybe give birth to something larger. It makes you think that thing's going to get eaten. Well, it's laying eggs. For sure. They're laying eggs.
Starting point is 00:28:09 right it's not live bearing so eggs are probably like this big sure and then out comes this guy they've got to have a crazy growth rate because if it's going from this big to 23 feet long they've got to grow like feet every few weeks I would just start doing live birth
Starting point is 00:28:25 yeah smart. So much larger squid yeah just pivot yeah you should you should really get into like experimental sciences so that you can go out and do accomplish this I I know we talked about this on a public pod not that long ago and obviously
Starting point is 00:28:38 the devices were listening because I got home that night and went on like Instagram or Facebook or something. And I was getting ads for an at home CRISPR kit. Really? Really? Swear to God. Wow. And I've never Googled that.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I've never been like, oh, like, can I, you know, where do I find this? Can I ask you what was the headline? Was it like create a giant sea monkeys? It was pretty bad. It was like clearly a guy in a trailer park too that was selling it. And he was like, yeah, it was like one of these things. Like edit bacteria with CRISPR. And it was like this pick it up.
Starting point is 00:29:09 yourself. How much is that, Kyle? $129. Yeah. But that one's for editing bacteria. This one was advertising like something about human cells. I don't know. It was weird. Well, the $129 version says that you can CRISPR an elephant.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The $59 version is for bacteria. There you go. There you go. Bacteria only. I literally was just talking about CRISPR yesterday. Because where I was filming, it was like this huge kind of like compound. Okay. About an hour outside L.A.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Okay. And it's like very deserty. Mm-hmm. And so there was like probably like 10 structures. So they have like a couple filming locations that are just sets. And then there's all these buildings, you know? So I'm like walking around. There's like a building where there's just like 10 dudes just printing t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Like thousands of T-shirts. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then there's another building where they're processing honey. Because I'd seen all these beehives all around, bee boxes, you know? Mm-hmm. And then there's this one big building and there's like signs. Everyone was like, do not enter.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Okay. It's like the secret building. Okay. So we were all speculating like what's going on in the secret building. Of course. How close could you get to the secret building? Like could you walk up to the door? You could walk up to the door, but it looked like it had like almost like metal doors.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Interesting. Like it was very like we were all wondering for the last two days. Like what are they doing? Like are they creating stuff with CRISPR in there? They must be. That's the only logical thing. Either way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:35 What's your logical guess? If you had a guess and if you were right. Well, military's out because you wouldn't be able to get within like a mile of it. It wasn't military. Where was this? Downtown L.A. No, it was north of Pasadena, like 30 minutes north, like up into the foothills. How big was this structure?
Starting point is 00:30:54 4,000 square feet. Oh, wow. I think it's a cook house. Yeah? Yeah. I think they're trucking in. Trucking into crystals and then they're cooking it and distributing it. Somebody with good funding.
Starting point is 00:31:05 All right. If I just was like, yeah. I randomly got some meth. Crystal meth and I held it out and it looked like crystal meth and you Googled Crystal Meth and this is what it looked like. And I was like, I want to pay you guys to smoke it right now. For presumably first time. Of course.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, first time. Yeah. Okay. How much would you have to be paid to just take a big fat fucking hit of crystal meth? Right now, your car is here. You're an hour from home. I want you to smoke meth live on the air. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:31:38 You go first. I'm very scared. I'm very scared of hard drugs, to be clear. I would do it. It would also destroy my entire public figure career, so it would have to be like a retireable amount. No, okay, forget it. We're off the air.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Okay, we're off the air. All right. I'm still pretty nervous. I'm going to say, man, I'll take one hit, think I could control myself after that and not be addicted for life at $1.5 million. That's good amount.
Starting point is 00:32:05 That's a lot. Oh, you're like, what you're thinking that's way over. the top. It was going to be a lot, but not that much. I'm scared, dude. I might die. I don't know. I'd be very scared. Yeah. I think the biggest problem, excuse me, for me, would
Starting point is 00:32:18 be that it keeps you up for several days at a time. You think one hit would? I think so. Does it? It keeps you awake for several days? I mean, you're completely like amphetamine naive, so you've never had an emphetamine. I think one hit would probably keep you up for at least two days. Would it make you think you're having a heart attack? Probably. I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:38 based on like that would scare me doing a line of coke in the past yeah like uh you what's your price oh god it's it's it's an insurmountable it it would probably be at least a million i would say wow what about you i was going to say a million yeah well we are pussies by the way i think i'm the biggest pussy as far as being scared of substance and what would you do it for i think for one hit i think i would do it for like 250k would you it's a lot of money i think i just run you run the risk of becoming a meth head. No. There's lots of risks. No fucking way. Well, that's what I'm scared of. That's what all heroin addicts say. Well, heroin's different than
Starting point is 00:33:16 meth. And then you have $250,000 to buy more meth with. That's true. That's true. I found meth. Have I ever told this story? No. Oh, I had meth. I held it in my hand. What happened? What's the story? I thought about it. We all thought about it. We were on that. Take an Adderall. You know that annual mushroom hunting trip that we do in Northern California every year? We were on that trip and we were on our way to the area where the rental house is in Sea Ranch, and we pulled off this random, like, side road because Jess actually spotted some oyster mushrooms growing on a tree.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And we're like, oh, perfect. We'll grab some of these on the way up. We'll cook them for dinner. And we pulled out at a random, like, pull out and got out. And literally, I parked, and then my buddy Ricardo parked behind me. And he got out and stepped and crunch. And he looked down there was a meth pipe that he had stood on.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And then we were like, oh, shit, look at that. Like he broke, but we didn't know it was a meth pipe. We just thought it was a pot pipe or whatever. But he crunched it. and then we were looking at it and literally like three feet away was a little white Ziploc baggy with a bunch of crystals in it
Starting point is 00:34:13 or clear Ziploc baggie and we're like that's the meth was it definitely meth and not like crack I don't know the difference it was clear crystals it looked like sugar crystals let's find out I am curious well I think that's meth
Starting point is 00:34:25 just from watching Breaking Bad crack is much more of like a powder it's milky rock like it looked like it it looked like the ones of the far right it looked clear like sugar crystals oh yeah that's meth
Starting point is 00:34:36 So crack looks like a delicious little crumble of cheddar. Parmesan. Parmesan. Yeah. Maybe a little feta. I might sprinkle that on my pasta. Meth looks more diamondy. Yeah. Oh, and then there's meth mouth.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Meth mouth. Oh, I forgot about that. Oh, boy. What causes that? How many hits do you need for your mouth? Facesofmeth.com, dude. You guys know about that site, right? It's been around for decades now.
Starting point is 00:35:00 It's a very popular site where they show. Can you go to it for Kyle? Faces of Meth.com. What causes Mountain Dewman? Well, you should know that. You should be here in big trouble guy. You've been drinking Mountain Dew since you've been a ton. I love diet Mountain Dew.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I'm scared. Yeah, I don't do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. I might stop. I didn't know there was something called Mountain Dew mouth. What is it?
Starting point is 00:35:21 And also, I've never even had a cavity. Am I going to get suddenly wake up and have. Well, hey, instead of getting a vasectomy, you can drink Mountain Dew too because it lowers your sperm count. That ship is sale.
Starting point is 00:35:32 It's an old wives. It's an old husband's tale. There's a comedian. I don't know. not supposed to repeat their bits, but I think his name's Ryan O'Flanagan. Okay. He's very funny. I've never met him. I just watched this stuff on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah. He has a great Mountain Dewbit where he talks about how, you know, the rumor about how it lowers your sperm count. You can use it as birth control. And he's like, of course it does. He's like, because it's so good. Everyone's just coming all the time. Oh my God. I think that's a good joke. Wild times, man. Okay. Speaking of
Starting point is 00:36:02 Wild Times, but this happens a lot. some crackpot loon sends me something and goes, is this an extinct X, right? 99% of the time, I look at it, it's not, I respond, I don't respond, whatever. Sometimes the description is illiterate, or sometimes it's complete shenanigans. I don't even bother looking.
Starting point is 00:36:22 However, this may not be that situation. Kyle, set it up. What do we get sent here? And what are we digging into? I haven't seen this yet, by the way. All right, so we got an email from a guy named Paul, late last year, late 2024. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:35 That was last year. Thanks, Kyle. Yep, exactly. He was playing at a playground with his son outside Melbourne. He was just traveling for a few days. When he saw something that it was kind of dusk-ish time, you know, the sun was just set. And he saw something kind of scurrying around the playground, took a video and sent it our way. I'm curious what it might be.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I'm sorry, did you say the location? Where was the location? Outside Melbourne, Australia. Melbourne, Australia. I wasn't paying attention. It's like Southern. My wife texted me. I love you.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So I had a text back. Oh, that's very nice. Southern Australia. Melbourne. Melbourne. Very populated area. But around there, there's swaths of nature. Now, let's break something down for a second here.
Starting point is 00:37:15 There are a handful of thylacine sightings that come out of mainland Australia. We've talked about that many times. And typically, they're in Victoria and South Australia. In fact, look up where that cave was, where they found the totally complete thylacine skeleton quickly. I think it wasn't far from Melbourne. Okay. So I'm not giving this any validity at this point.
Starting point is 00:37:35 obviously. I'm just saying, yeah, where is that? Nullabar plain. Oh, Western Australia. Never mind. But the highest concentration of sightings of thylacine from Australian mainland definitely come from the Melbourne area. So this guy sent in these clips. I haven't seen them yet. Kyle followed up and said, I think I might have seen something that looks thylacini. He was very nice, very passive. This guy's not a loon. That's why we're looking at this. So this will be the first time myself or anybody, I think, has seen these publicly because he took these photos, right? Correct. Video. Oh, wow. It's a video.
Starting point is 00:38:09 He says note. Go ahead. Go ahead, Kyle. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. He said just really quick a bit of context. He first noticed the animal when there was some birds getting very squeaky in a tree. He saw the animal jump down from one of the branches. It was definitely trying to catch some of the birds. He said, no, it did have brown stripes like a thylosine does. But I'm surprised there's no clear depiction in the video of that.
Starting point is 00:38:32 But I could definitely see them from a distance. So you do get a little behavioral clue here too, Forrest. Yeah, would a thylacine jump down from a tree? I would say no, but we don't know that. You know what I mean? I mean, the obvious thing, and we'll just do this straight out the gate here. The obvious thing is a fox, right? That's what everybody sees as a thylacine, that thermal image.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I think we broke that down. It was clearly a fox. But what does he say? In fact, didn't he discredit it being a fox himself? I tried looking up online what it was. Only thing similar I could find was a thylacine, perhaps Young wanted better. blah blah blah. I asked his zookeeper and he said it was a fox, but I still have my doubts because the tail was so slim. So most people that mistake thylacines see a fox, a mangy fox, whatever,
Starting point is 00:39:16 an injured fox. They go to thylacine. Fxes also don't really climb trees. So whatever this is pretty unique. Okay. You know, they can, just like a thylacine could climb up a few tree branches, but that's different from being like an arboreal animal. So let's take a look. Let's see this. We have two videos. Here's the first one. This is the brightened version. Wow, it's pretty good. That's a good video.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah. So he was saying, could it be a juvenile thylacine? I mean, it's really good, isn't it? It's very clear. I mean, it's a little boring. It was until he backed out, yeah. Tap that camera button there.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Okay. Why such a short video? It's clearly still sitting. We had another one. Second video on here. See the other one? So it's like a residential area. There's a paved road and a driveway.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Very residential. and there it has that stiff tail. Wow, it's really good. It has the fat tail at the butt and then it turns out. Holy shit. It's really compelling. It does not look like a fox to me, but what do I know? Well, it doesn't have the gate of a fox, any fox that I've seen. Well, it doesn't have the gate of a thylaseen.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's not hoppy. Go back to that one. I like that one more than the brightened one or whatever. It's a really compelling video. I mean... Oh, yeah, this is the one. So look, so it's hanging out behind the bushes. if you're just listening, this is worth tuning in to take a look. And it is a little hoppy there, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:40:39 It did it do a little hop. And it does look like it's got stripes in that part of the video. Look, it's walking right across a park bench. But right there, like, okay, freeze right there. Kyle, now pull up a profile of a thylacine. See how long those four legs are and sort of how long the back legs are? Yeah. It doesn't have that thylacine.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like, look how stocky the thylacine legs are. They're shorter and stuff. You see what I mean? And then sort of the length of the body, it's not bad. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I can see why T wants you just look at this.
Starting point is 00:41:11 So pull up the photo that's bottom right there, the illustration. Sorry, one up from that, that one. Now go back to his thing. Now zoom in if you can. I don't know if that's a thing. He has no idea. Control plus. So take a screenshot.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah. Take a screenshot. I just want to go side by side here if we can. What a disaster this is. Get him. His cursor is moving. Like, he's on meth. I think his computer just restarted.
Starting point is 00:41:40 But, look, I'll say this. I'll say, what was the guy's name we sent in? Josh? Yeah. Paul? He can't. Look. Paul.
Starting point is 00:41:49 So here's what happened. He screenshotsed it. And then he went into his photos. And then there were personal photos. And he got, he got really nervous that we were going to see whatever is in. I just saw him spreading. For sure. We go through them.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Oh, God. That's a great segment. There's photos. there of him doing the, what's it called? The batwing. You pull your testicle skin apart. Oh, my, I've never heard of that. I didn't know it needed a name. What? Do you want to get together? What do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:42:14 Batwing. Anyway, for Paul, I will say this. I mean, zoom in, work on that if it doesn't explode your computer. I can come over there. I think, I think to me, to me it's a mangy fox. And these do happen. But of all the mangy fox videos and sightings filmed on a potato I've ever seen, this is by far one of the best and most compelling.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And I'll say this to Paul's credit here. Had I been in that situation, I would have done the exact same thing. I would have filmed it. I would, like, holy shit, this looks unique. Yeah. Look at the structure of it. Look at how it's shaped, everything else.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But I think when you compare the two, if we ever are capable of pulling these upside by side, which we'll probably just end up doing in the edit, you can see the slight differences that where the ears are on the head, the thickness, the stockiness, the length, of the body. Where are the airs on the thylacine?
Starting point is 00:43:06 On its head. Well, I know it's on its head. Well, if you look at, if you look at the fogs. Oh, the ears are much shorter too. Go top. Go second. Go to the actual photo. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Those are pointy. Yeah. The photo, yeah. Yeah. No, they're a bit nubier. But take a look at the one on the right there, Kyle, all the way to the right. That one has pointed ears. That's more the angle.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Look at it from the side profile and then zoom in. Like, I see fox ears. I must. We requested the screen. screenshot four minutes ago. So for my boss a hard time. You cannot do it. No, I'm not even giving him a hard time.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I think he knows how to sort by modified date. There's definitely someone who's driving to work and already stressed out. And this is causing insane anxiety. If that's you and you're listening, please DM me. Well, because I really want the screenshot to zoom in for a reason. So Peter's eating nuts. Into the microphone. Is it to get rid of blue tongue?
Starting point is 00:44:05 If you don't shut the fuck up about my blue tongue, I'm going to give you a black eye. Jesus. Are you threatening me with violence? Yeah, I am. I'm tired of this shit. So wait, let me propose something now that Kyle, so what, for everyone who's listening, there was an edit. Yeah, it's about a 40-minute stop down. Peter even went over there to help him and said it was not Kyle's fault.
Starting point is 00:44:27 That started eating cashews. All right, so we've blown up, if you're just listening, we've blown up this love profile silhouette of this animal. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Still going fox? Still going fox. Main G. Fox.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Could I propose this is a really strange-looking domestic dog? Sure. Yeah. I could see that. Like, could that be some weird fucking mix of like the spud McKenzie dog and something wiry, like a dober. I mean, could that just be a doberman? I'm terrified to see what happens when I ask this.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But Kyle, are you capable of throwing this screen? It took you seven hours to source into a Google image search? My goodness. Well, because I'm curious what the Internet thinks when you take that profile. You can't. He's screenshutting it again. We already know that doesn't work. That doesn't look.
Starting point is 00:45:20 That profile is not terribly different than my next door neighbor's Doberman Pinscher. No, I agree. You know what it looks like those min pins, the miniature pinch. I will say this too. The way that it, because it's kind of blurry and when it's, zoomed in like that. I almost feel like it's take it like we think the legs are skinnier than they are. But you see that curve in the bottom back leg there? Is that is that? It's very dog. It's very domestic doggy to me the way the leg shape is in the back. I feel like it might have hops.
Starting point is 00:45:49 It might have hos. It's a, oh wow. Look, here we go. Wow. Good idea. Wow. That's what I was picturing. There it is. Wow. That is a feral hound. But the ears, the ears are wrong. They're too big there. Look, right? So Kyle took this great. rainy video. Yeah, they're pretty big. Put it into reverse image. Imids search. Yep, that. And the first thing that came up is a pharaoh hound. What's the next thing that came up? I like to look at that a Beeson Hound for it too. Those years are massive. Wow, what is this dog? I want one. That thing's beautiful. Penero. Pedensio Canario. I love the look of that dog. Kyle, try this site, tiny eye.com. It's a little better than Google reverse image search. What is this? Tiny eye, tiny E-y. I just learned something. I'm using a, tiny eye.
Starting point is 00:46:33 reverse search a lot. You've been using it a lot? Yeah, it's great. Pump it in there and see what comes up. Yeah, it's really good. You know what I've been using it for? It's way better. Zero natural.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I know, I know what it is. Go ahead. You see like a hot chicken an ad on Instagram and you try to find out who she is. Very, very close. I did that.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Nice. I'm glad that you did that. That's normal. That was good comedy, by the way, the way you set that up. Very close. I've been doing exactly that with a hot chicken Instagram,
Starting point is 00:47:02 but when I want to know where she is because she's in this like beautiful tropical setting or jungle or whatever. Yeah, that's why you did it. Yeah. And I'm like, I throw it in there and I ask it where is this? And it figures out the location. Yeah. So any thoughts on this? Final thoughts on this? You're going to Bees and Hound or something like that. I think it's some sort of domestic dog. It is very chilled out, right? It's like in a public area, in a park. Now that I'm looking at how it moves too, I do think domestic dog. Give us the first video one more time
Starting point is 00:47:34 and then do a screenshot. No, I'm kidding. So let me ask you this. Here, pause it. Those ears are pretty big. Erase from your brain. God, it looks like a fox there, doesn't it? A lot. But erase from your brain the context of Australia or thylacine.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Okay. Now pull up the second video. Not this one. So just, you don't know where this is. This might have been in my backyard. Yeah. What are you looking at? A jackal.
Starting point is 00:48:00 If I don't know what a fox or Australia is. I'm thinking this is like a jackal in like suburban South Africa. Because it's canad looking. It looks like a canad, right? It looks like a small dog. So final answer for you? Fox.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Mangy Fox. Peter? Doberman Pinscher. He's forgotten what we're talking about. No, I haven't. That's a good. That's a fun video, though. If you're only listening and you're interested in the Tasmanian tiger, can we post these as shorts?
Starting point is 00:48:29 We can, right? Like the videos for people to weigh. in? Yeah, so go ahead, comment. We're going to post here in the video, but we'll also post his shorts. Comment what you think it is. I'm going Mangy Fox. We have domesticated mongrel dog. It's very cool, though. And I like when people send these things in, because
Starting point is 00:48:44 it's great to look at. A year later. How about this? How about this? For people who don't subscribe, do we have this technology? Comment what you think it is and we'll pick one random comment. We'll just scroll and put our finger on it.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And declare it. And do a free a free month. Oh, there you go. Sure, Kyle, write it down. That's possible. We have the technology. Do we have the technology? We do.
Starting point is 00:49:09 One of my buddies texted me. Because he knows he does this podcast and he clearly, he lives in Florida and him and his friends are constantly talking about animal fights. Cool. Love it. So he texted me yesterday. Is this guerrilla versus 100 men?
Starting point is 00:49:25 No, I can't believe how viral that went. So viral. Every sports podcast talked about it. Every person in the world is talking. about it. It's bizarre. Yeah, we haven't done it. Maybe we'll save it. Okay. He wants to know him and his friends on their text thread who are all like Florida bros and very fun to hang out with and varying levels of intelligence. Yeah. They want to know. And they were arguing over it and are split. Uh-huh. Mountain gorilla versus a standard black bear. It's a much
Starting point is 00:49:56 better argument than the one we, that I always get, which is gorilla versus grizzly bear. where the grizzly bear wins 100 100. Yeah. Yeah. So black bear versus gorilla. And a decent sized one. It's not like... Look, a large black bear, a 600-pound black bear versus a 350-pound gorilla, which is what a large gorilla weighs.
Starting point is 00:50:14 That's a good fight. That is a good fight. Much more fair than the grizzly versus gorilla. Where's your head at with this one? Oh, gorilla for sure, man. It's just... First of all, like, I don't think they're... They'll fight to the death. So if it gets bitten or something, unless the black bear. Unless the black bear gets it like in the neck right away or something.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And also I feel like gorillas probably have thick skin and fur to get through. Like it's not going to be a one strike and done. And if the black bear gets close to the gorilla dude, just grabs those limbs and just rips them off. I mean, yes, but you forget that the hands of bears are literally knives. Right. Like they're just slashing at the gorilla. And the gorilla does not have a defense against that. I'm just saying, though, it would have to be a good shot.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Like, you'd have to slash them right in the eyes, and the gorilla's going to be defending against this. So how do guerrillas fight? They fight with fists and pounding. Yeah, punching and they bite, too, right? They, like, hammer fist. Yeah, you can kind of see it there. They're like hammer fist. They punch.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Big fangs, too. Yeah, they bite. I mean, they're gnarly. And then, yeah, they, if it's like a fight to the death, they will absolutely, like, try and pull limb from body. I would say the black bear is probably the more athletic animal, right? I mean, just as far as quick burst and ferocity. Probably, but I think strength-wise, the gorilla is actually stronger, even though the black bears outweighs it significantly.
Starting point is 00:51:39 So essentially what you're proposing here is it's not that different than me putting on me with two knives or 10 knives, fighting against a stronger, like it's me versus Retap, but I have 10 knives. No, because the bear is bigger. But the bear's bigger. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. I actually, this is going to be an unpopular opinion.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I'm going to go bear. I am. I'm going to go bear. I think a large 600 pound male black bear at full capacity, which probably has more endurance than a gorilla, and that's important to consider too. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Because guerrillas as heavy in the way they're built, they're like sprint athletes. They like burst of energy and then they gas out very quickly. And burst of energy and gas out very quickly. It's a good point. Whereas bears are relatively similar, but they're pursued hunters.
Starting point is 00:52:30 You know, bear will run down and kill an elk or a moose or something like that. I'm talking about black bear or brown bears more. But still, I think the bear would take, I think a 600 pound bull black bear would take down a full grown adult silverback gorilla. Where's your head, Kyle?
Starting point is 00:52:48 Probably bear, just for like the girth of a bear. It's a much harder, question than I thought. It is. Because immediately when I, like, glanced at the text while I was on set, I was like, yeah, gorilla. But yeah, you forget that the bear is actually bigger. Much bigger. Yeah. And if it gets those teeth,
Starting point is 00:53:04 like, you're thinking the gorilla grabs it and pulls it apart and all that, but it's, it can't really grab onto the bear. Right. Because if it grabs it, the bear's going to bite it, if it tries to grab, it's going to slash it, I think the bear would take it. Could I get a video of some black bears fighting, possibly? I'm definitely going gorilla here,
Starting point is 00:53:21 man. I just, I can't. It's just so much smarter. They say styles make fights, you know what I mean? Like, let's watch some bear fight. So they're standing on their hind legs, which I think it would do
Starting point is 00:53:30 against the gorilla. Definitely. And it's just get, how can I get onto your neck? I think I've been to that neighborhood and filmed bears there. I'm not even joking. Oh,
Starting point is 00:53:40 there's a different one. No, the one in Florida looked like the one I've been to. Yeah. Oh, Mike. The ferocity of the bear is unbelievable. Dude, it's gnarly. Because when you see it's body shape,
Starting point is 00:53:49 you don't go like that thing's super agile. It's not necessarily agile, but it's just... No, I go bear. So ferocious. I go bear. Guerrilla. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Way in in the comments because this is, everybody always asked Grizzly bear versus gorilla. That's a no-brainer. The grizzly takes the gorilla in no time flat. But this is a fair fight.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I like it. I like it. Yeah. So you're not going to lay down an answer. You're just going to leave it open-ended. I got convinced. I got convinced because I was, I was essentially picturing a gorilla versus a cub.
Starting point is 00:54:19 There's two bears humping. I don't know how he found that. Kyle just put two. Bears humping on the screen. That was in his search history. That was from his private photo stash earlier. Um, Kyle, I believe we have a new game. Can we play a game? We do. Can you give us a jingle? Yep. Peace up. Whoa. Nice. Well time. I thought that was part of the jingle. It was so good. I got it. What's the game? All right. This is kind of a twist on bizarre animal the week. This is maybe some animals that you guys maybe know a bit better.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Okay. It's called Animal Guess Who. I'm going to read four, statements and you guys are going to take a guess after each statement about what animal this might be. Okay. Got it. Shout it out style? Yeah. Okay. Exactly. Do you have the correct ding and a sound? I have them. Oh, you programmed him in last night
Starting point is 00:55:06 after your red lobster date? I got him. Nice. Studio Jake. He's got him, but you guarantee he missed hits. Oh yeah. No doubt. Definitely. All right. First one here. This is an animal, obviously. Sure. Okay. I live in animals.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Well, start again. I live in places with volcanoes, high altitudes, and very few predators. Volcano high altitude, very few predators. Seagull.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. Volcano, high altitude, very few predators, Lama. Peter? Goat. Mounted. Geez, no need.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Mountain goat. F off. What did you say, Seagull? Technically, I'm correct. Technically. Yeah. Okay. Next, my fur is so dense, I can't live anywhere too humid. Alpaca. Alpaca. Alpaca. What's the other one? There's a third one. There's llamas, alpacas, and the one I never remember.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Camel? Guantico. Guantico, thank you. Nobody remember that. Don't guess Guantico. I don't think he would have said it unless he's a moron. Well, next, I bathe in dust instead of water to keep my coat clean. This is ludicrous. Well, that's a bad idea. Don't stop doing that. To keep your coat clean. Dust butt. Water?
Starting point is 00:56:26 How do you? Dust baths of an animal with super fur, super dense fur. Oh, wait a minute. Volcano. Think Himalayas now instead of. I think it's a mink. Oh, that's a good guess. That's a really good guess.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I'm going to say ferret because he said mink. I'll say a mere cat because he said ferret. anybody? It's really ridiculous. You guys are on the right track. I need a size. I need a size hint. Oh.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Okay, go ahead. All right. Last one here. Forest has my silky fur. My silky fur was so once surprised, it nearly drove me to extinction. Who am I? A stout.
Starting point is 00:57:11 No. It's not a stoat. A stonk. It can't be a stout. You can't just say words. No, a stonk is a thing. Yeah, yeah. It is.
Starting point is 00:57:19 No. It might be. It might be. What's a stonk? I'm just going to say mink again. Beaver. Beaver. What was it?
Starting point is 00:57:30 The correct answer. The correct answer is chinchilla. Oh, we should have got that. So we were on the right. That's so stupid too. You should have got that, biologist. True, I should have. And I knew the chinchillas were once almost extinct.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And I knew that they took dust. I knew all the things in the clothes. It's hard when you don't have the actual name. I mean. I want to multi. choice option. So, you know, you've heard of like a mink coat, right? That was like a thing that women did in the 70s and 80s.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And then you've heard of a chinchilla coat, right? Oh, yeah, that's a big thing. They were a big deal. Oh, yeah. Chinchillas are like these cute mice. You used to be able to get them at Petco. Do you remember that? I remember you went into Petco.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And there was like a hexagonal glass thing with like a grate on top and you could just pick out your chinchilla and take it home. I had a chinchilla. She kept it in the closet, and I always thought it was like bananas, because when you think chinchilla, you think, like, insane for some reason, like Tasmanian Devil. Like when you're a kid,
Starting point is 00:58:28 for some reason I thought a chinchilla was, like, insane. And she never took it out of, like, her closet in the cage. And I was like, look how cute the baby chinchilla. By the way, you would have to, like,
Starting point is 00:58:38 cultivate a thousand of these to make a fur coat out of it. What am I thinking of? Type in chinchilla 90s cartoon. There was like something where he goes, Chinchella! That's because I said Tasmanian devil. What am I thinking of?
Starting point is 00:58:48 No, this is not helpful. You're watching anime? Maybe. That would be the first time. It doesn't matter. Co. Can you just see if stonk is a thing? Stonk is not a thing. It's another word for stocks.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Stonks. No, not a thing. That looks real. Look at that guy's head. All right, next game. I love how he's the representative of what a stonk is. Like, he's on every picture. It's also a big missed opportunity that stonk isn't a word in the English language.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, it should be an animal. Stonk. It's fun to say. Bonk, stonk, bong. Monk. You want to do another one? Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Desperately. Second animal. I'm a terrible flyer, but I can run surprisingly fast. Alligator. Ostrich. I mean, ostrich can't fly, but I don't know what else to say. Yeah, no, it's not going to be an ostrich. Roadrunner.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Oh, we would have had it between the three of us. Yeah. All right. Peter, you technically were correct. That's right. Technically, I was. Alligators are very bad at flying. That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Terrible. Okay. Animal 2. Nope. Clue 2. Yeah. Both. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:55 First clue was terrible flyer. Can surprise runs... Mm-hmm. Oh, boy. How many light strikes is he had? Okay, second clue. I make a sound so obnoxiously loud that it can be heard from over a mile away. Peacog.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Peacock. It has to be. I live with them. It's the worst thing in the world. They can't fly. It's the only thing. They're noisy. I wouldn't have thought of it, so I'm not...
Starting point is 01:00:16 I would have never known if it wasn't for full. forest, so I can't take credit. Wow. It had to be a peacock. There's nothing more obnoxious that sucks at flying and is pretty fast around. A mile away. Well, anyone who's consistently listened to the bonus pods has been bothered by your peacock. Try being me.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Try living in my house. Dude, if you can hear a peacock a mile away, I'd like, Pat, I'd like to hear the math about what it sounds like one foot away. You should try it out your bedroom window at like 6 a.m. So let's say if you can hear a peacock a mile away. 10 decibel. At one foot away, it's probably about 3,000 decibels. That's not how it works because sound waves don't dissipate that fast.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Okay. But I don't actually understand how any of that works. What are the last two facts just for the people? Last two facts. I was once the symbol of ancient royal courts. And the next one's not a fact. Move on. Yep.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Wait. What is it? I have a tail that fans out and glistens in the sun. It's kind of a fact. It's a clue. It's a clue. Gliscence is a clue. It's as bad as stunk.
Starting point is 01:01:24 It's a stunk word. All right. One more. Last one. Here we go. One more. Jesus. Everybody's having trouble.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Today of day. Sell it. Let's go. All right. I can smell you from miles away with my tongue. Blue tongue skink. Miles away. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Interesting. I have no idea. I mean, miles away. Ritigulated python. Just because it has tongue in the name of the animal. Yep. Peter, any guess?
Starting point is 01:01:51 You can smell with a tongue. Forest asshole. Yep, that's probably it. So close. So close. Next. Next. My bite doesn't just hurt, but it delivers venom in bacteria that finishes the job slowly.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I know what it is. I do too. I know what it is. I'll take a guess. A bite doesn't just hurt, delivers venom. Slowly. Slowly is the key. And bacteria.
Starting point is 01:02:17 brown squirrel. I think it's a Komodo dragon. For sure. I knew it in my head too. If it hadn't literally said the word bacteria, I still would be guessing. Let's do one more. There's something about,
Starting point is 01:02:32 there's something like when you attribute bacteria and the bite, even though I couldn't remember what the name of the animal was, like I could picture it. Yeah. And then I said squirrel. Because it's so distinct.
Starting point is 01:02:44 By the way, I learned something interesting yesterday. Can we dog like that? For one second. Of course. I learned yesterday that according to fossil records, Komodo dragons actually first evolved and appeared in Australia. And where are they now? In Indonesia.
Starting point is 01:02:58 On Komodo Island? Yeah. But the sort of reigning theory, at least among certain scientists, is that Komodo dragons evolved and came to be in Australia and then spread out and then they were eliminated from Australia and other places and only remained on like Rinka Island, Bentang Flores, Komoto, things like that. Which I just, I mean, Australia is gnarly enough. Like to think that they used to have Komodo dragons there is insane.
Starting point is 01:03:23 So is it the same Komoto dragon or do they continue their evolution once they reached Indonesia? Was it too recent? I'm sure. I'm sure they would have, you know, had like insular gigantism and dwarfism and things like that. So they would have changed a little bit. But I think it was basically the same animal. So is it the rafting theory? Because they're not capable of doing that swim.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I don't think it's rafting. I think it probably would have been, you know, where the land breaks up. Do they swim at all? Can they swim in the water? The juveniles can for sure, but, you know, certainly not thousands of miles to Indonesia. Of course, yeah. You could catch a ride on like a floating log. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:57 A drift boat. Oh, look at that. There's a big one swimming. That is an awesome video. I mean, if you were just having a lovely snorkel and you're kind of looking down at the fish and then you kind of come up just to see you. And that thing's just like. That's a sea monster in that case. So cool.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Look at the way it swims, too. It's got a seal light quality. Dude, I was just going to say it looks like a seal. If you were way up on a drone. and you saw that and it was just like the outline, you'd definitely be like, oh, let's zoom in on that seal. It would look insane. Dude, it looks so mean in the face.
Starting point is 01:04:25 It's like a terrifying animal. They're pretty sweet. Don't poke it with a stick. We ran into one in Australia. That was really surprising. Wait, like in the wild? No, yeah, at the Ballarat, right? Sanctuary or something.
Starting point is 01:04:38 No, it was Ballarat. Yeah. We went to a wildlife sanctuary and it was basically all native Australian animals and then one giant commoto dragon. Wow. And the very pretty young girl who guided us around was like, do you want to go meet it?
Starting point is 01:04:51 And I was like, you're like 95 pounds. You should go nowhere near this animal. And we just like walked in. She was like tickling it on the chin and stuff. Oh my God. Totally. Crazy. Very cool.
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