Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Big Cats in the UK Countryside Confirmed - The Wild Times Ep. 148

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

We discuss the confirmation of a big cat in the UK countryside, sharks in the UK, the state of wildlife media as we know it, and our Top 3 & DFL summer vacations. Enjoy! Win up to $5,000 cash! H...ow to enter: - Make a video - Post your video on Instagram and tag @leathermantools and @wildtimespod - Alternatively, you can submit your video directly at wildtimes.club/leatherman. - Then, at the end of the month, we'll be announcing two winners: Most Original Video: $2,500 Cash Prize Funniest Video: $2,500 Cash Prize Go to https://wildtimes.club/leatherman to learn more. Leatherman: Use promo code WILDTIMES10 at checkout on https://www.leatherman.com to save 10% on any Leatherman product through June 30, 2024 Mack Weldon: Get 20% off your first order with promo code WILD.https://mackweldon.com/ Pre-Order the Battle Royale Card Game Here: https://wildtimesmedia.thrivecart.com/battle-royale/ 🎧 Exclusive Ad-Free Podcasts on Spotify 🎧 Subscribe for more: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh... 💖 Join Our Patreon Community 💖 Unlock exclusive perks: / wildtimespod 🔊 Listen to Our Show on Spotify 🔊 Explore our episodes: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cbFBzf... 📡 Subscribe via RSS 📡 Add us to your podcatcher: https://anchor.fm/s/aee18224/podcast/rss 📸 Follow Us on Instagram 📸 For awesome animal facts and videos: / wildtimespod 💬 Join the Conversation on Discord 💬 Connect with fellow nature lovers: / discord 👕 Shop Our Exclusive Merchandise 👕 Wear your passion: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch Enjoy, brosteners! TWT 148 Breakdown 00:00 - Start00:54 - Double restaurant04:57 - Big cat confirmed in the UK11:15 - Why do they put bells on cats?12:46 - Hairless cats17:04 - Peter's Hermit Crab update18:21 - Leatherman Giveaway22:33 - Sharks in the UK26:09 - The state of wildlife media29:28 - Forrest's YouTube Channel36:16 - $1M Budget dream content42:25 - Top 3 DFL Summer Vacations Jingles made by: www.soundcloud.com/mimmkey https://www.newbelgium.com/beer/fat-t... #wildtimespod #podcast

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Who. Peters on the beers are ready. Here we go. That's right, baby. Wild Times podcast. I'm your host, Forrest Galante, the broologist. On my right, Papa P himself, the producer. And on his right, PhD in podcasting, the professor, Mr. Retap.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Don't forget about Kyle. Kyle, turn the timer on. Let's go. I just had to get that in. So he started it. And Kyle, the producer, is here. And what do we got, guys? What's going on?
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Starting point is 00:01:25 How did that work? So my buddy Lucas, who I work out with, he's, I'm not joking. He's 6'9, 270 pounds. in about 5% body fat. He's one of the biggest guys I've ever seen. Sure. Thus, he eats a lot. But we've been lifting like really hard for five days straight.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Like two and a half hour workouts. Damn. So yesterday after our workout around 1 o'clock, he goes, dinner tonight. And I'm like, yeah, I could squeeze in a dinner tonight. He's like, great, double restaurant. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, we get two meals. You prefaced it.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah. So we went to sushi first. Oh, see that's smart. Yeah. Sushi first. I had two rolls. He had three rolls. then went next all.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Next doll. Next door. He's getting old, man. My brain is, I'm going to drink a magic mind. My brain is slipping. Please. No, I really am. That was bad.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And went next door and each had a tomahawk steak. Come on. Swear to God. So it's basically a sushi app. But it wasn't, it was a full meal at each, though. It was insane. I felt terrible. I was going to ask.
Starting point is 00:02:27 How much did you drink alcohol-wise with that? Zero. None? One drink. Wow, because he's like a real thick guy. I probably isn't booze. We're trying to be, you know, like, we're like, let's meet headed up. Like, no booze.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Let me see your gun. Let me see how. Okay, you're drinking water. Drinking water, yeah. 120 ounces a day? No, I drink this thing a day. Okay, nice. I don't know how many ounces it is.
Starting point is 00:02:48 What a pain in the ass to carry that thing around. I like it, dude. It's like a bicep workout. Just having a sip, too. That is good. I'm, I'll get in little phases where I have my thing full and I'll fill it in the morning. And I'm like, yeah, I had it. my water for the day. And I forget. And I'm like, you're fucking dehydrated.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yeah, man. So did you get sides with the tomahawk steak? Oh, yeah. Wow. Lucas went onion rings and a salad. I had a delightfully not like clam chowder and a loaded baked potato. That's crazy. No, we went hard, dude. I'm not joking. We ate, I must have eaten 7,000 calories. Yeah, I was just just the tomahawk with those two ridiculous appetizer sides. Yeah. It's like 5,000. Plus, plus three sushi rolls and yeah we didn't do dessert. We talked a big game but we didn't do dessert. That's crazy. It's still a pretty big game. Yeah. I love
Starting point is 00:03:39 the steakhouse dinner with the boys you know, start with the martini. Maybe get the wedge to start. Yep. The steak, the sides always feel like shit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No doubt. I'm not used to eating that much. No. It's that much like fat shocking your system too
Starting point is 00:03:55 where you're eating a giant steak. It's so much fun though. I have buddies that I go, two friends that I go and get a steak with like one a year. We'll go get a real nice steak. It's the only time we see each other. Love it. That's a good way to be with those friends, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's like literally like a catch-up for the year. Yeah. Perfect. But they, they're both older, but they both refer to something called the meat sweats. I've, I've heard of this. I've never had it. I've never had it either. Have you? Of course. Have you really? What is it? I've done pure carnivore and never been sweaty for eating meat.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I mean, I think it's for like more out of shape, guys. Like, I sweat a lot. Out of shape? Out of shape? No. Out of space. Out of space. Uh, yeah, I mean, like us outer shape guys, you kind of, it's taxing to kind of shovel all that food in and get it down the throat. Your, your digestive system has to grind it all through and you start to smell and sweat and you smell like me. That's a real thing apparently. It is. You can look it up.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Um, all right. Something, Kyle, get ready for the jingle. Something happened. Uh-oh. That I think you're going to be fascinated by. Uh-oh. But I want you to explain to us why. What's the news? What's in the news?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Okay. So I was told this is a huge deal. All right. Let's hear more. I just got a DNA test. And I'm 100%. I just got a DNA. What's that song?
Starting point is 00:05:17 You know, the fucking the chick with the rap. I think she says I'm 100% that bitch. Is that it? Can you play that call? Are we allowed to do that? Probably not. We'll get big trouble. A DNA test has confirmed that there is indeed a big cat.
Starting point is 00:05:31 not just like a large house cat. I mean a big cat in the panthera genus roaming the British countryside. Oh, God. The nuts are going to go nutty. The cookies of the world are going to fucking lose it. Is that because the UK, like, traditionally has no fun animals?
Starting point is 00:05:48 No, dude, it's like a thing, right? It's like you hear the same thing about the Blue Mountains of Australia. There's a big cat. You hear about the British countries. Every fucking loon and every tinfoil hat loon in the world talks about the big cat in their neighborhood. It's like a thing. It's like bigger than big.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Bigfoot. You know, it's like, oh, there's a big cat. I swear there's a Kyle, how many of these fucking, you know, like from the pockets, how many times we pulled up a picture of a black house cat that's this big that's up on a hillside? They're like, it's a panther. Well, it's not. It's somebody's fucking tinkles the cat.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Well, but you know how it always starts, right? Something's been mutilating the sheep, killing the sheep. Of course. Must be a chupacabra. No, DNA says it's a big cat, likely a leopard that killed a sheep in the lake district of the UK. it's the first confirmed instance of a big cat DNA. My sister lives up there in the Lake District. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah. Is this... Did she buy a leopard and free it? Yeah, that's a good question. Kyle, pull up Lake District UK Wildlife Rescue. Let's see where it escaped from, shall we? So it has to be, right? It has to be. It has to be. What else could be?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Where's the nearest big known cat to this area? Ish. Nowhere. I mean... Like nowhere near it. No, like North Africa is the nearest place. India, I don't fucking know. So it's not like this thing could have just come over across the border.
Starting point is 00:07:04 No, it obviously came from here. The Lake District Wildlife Park has a picture of a lion on their homepage. If they're telling you it didn't come from here, it did. Like, these things happen. A lot of big cats are pretty good at surviving. They probably won't get through a winter unless it happens to be like a Siberian, you know, tiger or a snow leopard or something. it's definitely either some eccentric guy with a curly mustache and a smoking coat that's escaped or it's come out of one of these places.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. There's nothing else it can be. Where did they? So they found the dead sheep and the DNA was on the sheep? So the sheep carcass was found by a lovely woman named Sharon Larkin Snowden. I presume she's married. She's taken. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Hence the hyphen. Yeah. Exactly. But she saw a large black cat roaming around. She said it was the size of a German shepherd. but then they got the DNA here. Yeah, they followed through. Every time you say DNA, that song.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah, I know. A DNA test found out. No, look, it's, this drives me nuts. Nobody's ever seen a big cat that isn't black, ever, ever in the history of non-wildlife people. They're like, it's a large black cat. Why? Why can't it just be a large leopard? Why can't it have rosettes?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Because it's dark. Why can it be beige? It drives me nuts. This is good. Rick Minster with over a thousand big cat encounters reports suggest. that the animal was most likely a leopard, noting melanistic forms, the typical for leopards, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's an escape big cat.
Starting point is 00:08:33 We know this. All right. Could it be a black leopard? Yes, it's possible. The likelihood of that is significantly more rare than it just being a normal coated leopard. Everybody thinks that every cat they've ever seen is black for some reason. We've talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Because it's nighttime, bro. It's not that. It's like imprinting. It's like Marvel movies, Black Panther, high school mascots. You put in your brain that the cat is black without knowing it. And then when you see it, you make it back. I remember that from the Florida Black Wolf episode of Extincter Live. Like, a lot of people in southern Florida had a large black cat sighting.
Starting point is 00:09:08 They swear to God. Always black. Yet there's never been a single known black mountain lion. Florida Cougar or Florida Pamp or whatever they call it. Oh, wow. That's interesting. That's what you're getting at. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So these black cats don't exist. No, they do. They do. So a black leopard exists. Right. Okay. But that's, we're talking about an African or Indian leopard. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:09:25 There are actual melanistic cases of black leopard. But a black panther, which is literally what the Marvel movie is and everything else, does not exist. Panther being a North American Puma, Mountain Lion, whatever you want to call it. That does not exist. Why are there so many names for that damn panther? It's a good question, probably because of their massive distribution. They're everywhere, right? I mean, they're from Canada to South America.
Starting point is 00:09:49 They're from the East Coast to the West Coast. They're just to have a massively broad distribution. Kyle's dying to chime in, but Retepp won't let him speak. No, I didn't know. It's crazy, though. Yeah, I'm going to cut this out. Speak your mind, young man. No, I just wanted to ask, like, why is it not possible that it could just be not an escaped animal?
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Starting point is 00:11:01 Book it with Priceline. Download the Priceline app or visit Priceline.com. Actual prices may vary, limited time offer. Because there is no large cat that has ever evolved in the United Kingdom. They had wolves, they didn't have big cats. Big cats are from Central and South America, Africa and Asia. They're not from the UK island nation. They like the warm weather for, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I mean, yes and no. I mean, there's obviously cold cats as well. Cold cats? Well, yeah, I mean, snow leopards and things like that. But there's- Siberian tigers. The UK is a small island nation that has never had a native big man.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I always forget it's an island. Yeah, you're right. It can only get there through water. Oh, cheers. Correct. Just open that with a water or a tunnel. Yeah. Okay, so much ado about nothing then?
Starting point is 00:11:47 No, I mean, it, I'm sure there's a lot of loons, like toothless tinfoil hat loons out there. They're like, I told you! So it's not much to do about nothing. There is probably a big cat roaming around. It's definitely escaped. It's not a native animal. That is undeniable.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Where it came from, what's going to happen, we might hit winter and it might just die. It might roam around the countryside for another 12 years without being seen. Might it turn into a prolific manhunting leopard that Jim Corbett needs to come hunt? Honestly, that would be a treat. Can you imagine? That's a great movie, by the way.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Prove all the wackos, right. In like the silly little like rolling hillsides of the UK where everybody's like, oh, yes, hello. And then there's just a fucking murderous leopard out on a rampage. All of the UK Lake District people have tuned out. They're all little old ladies who go, oh, well, it's probably not our demo. And they all listen to this show. I heard, well, I know our demo is 75 to 85 year old female. That's us.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Wait, I heard a real interesting fact about cats. You know why they started putting bells on cats? To stop them from killing birds? Pretty much, yeah, to stop them from hunting birds because it's obviously a huge problem. And then the cats figured out how to avoid making the bell jingle. So what did they do, you think? How did they make it make it not jingle? No, well, no.
Starting point is 00:13:12 What was the humans next step to deceive the cat and make it be heard when it hunts? Put bells on its feet? I don't know. Close. I have no idea. Added a second bell. The cats have never figured. out how to get two bells to not jingle. I don't know how you figure out how to get one bell to not jingle.
Starting point is 00:13:28 That's, we should ask the cats. You have to like move so. Yeah, you move in a way. Yeah. It's crazy. They learn, they do. They learn how to move that way.
Starting point is 00:13:36 They already have the ability to do it. They just like are like, oh, okay, I need to do this now. Yeah, but it's, it's like an animal that breaks its leg or something. You have to adapt in order to be able to hunt and survive. And the cats just do that.
Starting point is 00:13:48 They've adapted to, oh shit, this noisy thing around my neck scares away all my prey. So they have to figure out a way around. It says cat owners, because the cats eventually learn how to not ring the bell, owners are encouraged to regularly change the bell or attach two bells. Cat cannot figure out how to do two bells. And then the third thing that they do, if this cat's just a freaking genius and does figure it out, they put a light on there.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And the light just boom. You're running at a bird. It sees the light. It's out of there. My wife has been relentlessly sending me videos of these hairless cats. Oh, I, I can't stand them. They're so gross. They're so gross.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah, like in freaking Austin Powers, dude. Yeah, this thing. The fucking, see the, the ball sack cat over there in the top right? I'm sorry, dude. What's wrong with her? We won't get into that. But she's, so she's allergic to cats. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:40 But she loves cats and wants a cat. We don't have enough pets in our time. You don't have enough going on. Yeah. I think you counted like 49 last time. 91. Oh, shit. I was way off.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Across the property. Uh, But so now she obviously clicked on one of these things on Instagram. Now her Instagram is just filled with them. She sends me no less than four videos of these heinous looking ball sack animals. They're terrible. Per day. They're so bad looking.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And she's, not only has she like manipulated me into telling me that like this is what we're going to get and somehow I've come around to agreeing to it. She's now got roads on board. So my four-year-old is like, yeah, dad, when we get the hairless cat? And I'm like, I'm fucked now. It's genius. There's no way not to get one now.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I don't want. Look at it. Do you guys like these? Huh? Do you like these? Nobody likes these. These cats don't like themselves. Two things here.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I think they're cool. I wouldn't. I don't want one of my house. Is that one tattooed? They're very cool. They're something that's only been around for like 50 years. Did you know this? No.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Because we bred them to be like this. Of course. This is not natural. Yeah. And I found this out, disgusting. You have to put sunscreen on them or they get sunburnt. Wow. And you have to pop their fucking blackheads because they get like clogged pores and shit without
Starting point is 00:15:50 without having hair. Bro. Yikes. It's a mess. It's a disaster. My friend Ron got married and he was about to have his wedding. I went to dinner with him and his wife and they were having an argument. She desperately wanted a hairless cat.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Okay. And the sticking point was that they're like $1,200. Yeah. And he was like, this is crazy. I'm not spending this. Right. And so I said, I'll get you one as your wedding gift. Oh, boy.
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Starting point is 00:23:57 for some reason, just go to wild times.combe forward slash Leatherman. You could submit your video right there and all the contest rules are right there too. Every year for the last six years I've pitched Discovery a shark week show in the UK. Every year for the past six years. What do you think
Starting point is 00:24:13 they say? Let's play a game. You guys want to be the executives? Yeah, very much so. Hey, guys, how are you? Forrest here? Yeah, hey, Forrest. Yeah. Hey, buddy. You should be excited to see me.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I've given you the highest rated shows on your channel for about the last six years. We love you, man. Thanks for big dick and me. Let me ask you this. You guys want to do another shark show with me, yeah? Oh, yeah. That's the face. That's the right face, too.
Starting point is 00:24:36 We love your show. We love everything you do. Okay, what if I told you this? There are incredible diversity of sharks in the UK. Are any of them big? That is what they'd say. No, they're not. Except for the basking shark.
Starting point is 00:24:50 They're pretty small, but they're pretty cool. They're really interesting. Nobody's done a show there on it. 81 different species in the whole area. Not all of sharks, but including some critically endangered sharks. You got a celebrity attached? Of course not. No, just me.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Okay. I'm still interested. Let's hear what else you got. The fucking smug face over there. So what is this? What is this? It's just a show. want to do, but to back it up.
Starting point is 00:25:16 81 species in the waters of the UK. They did a study on trawling off the Sussex Coast in the UK, and they found all these different species, including some incredible cat sharks, which look how beautiful this thing is. That's super cool. Look, I know we're making a joke at the network's expense, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Look how cool. Kyle, just pull up a different photo of cat sharks in the UK. Super spotted, super colorful, really interesting. You can dive with them in shallow and clear water. They're not that hard to find. They're just beautiful. animals. Look at these things. Yeah. Well, what has been their opposition? Do they just pass?
Starting point is 00:25:48 Not dangerous enough? That's it. Yeah, it's not exciting. It's not an adventure. It's not dangerous. Nothing's going to eat you. But... Interesting. You know, we've made tons of shows like that that that aren't like that. This isn't really a jab at the network. It's just a good way to talk about this. So what's your attachment to this? You just because the animals look very cool. There's a diversity in life. I look, Shark Week's been going for 35 years. You have to find something that has been done, right?
Starting point is 00:26:11 35 years of great white sharks jumping out of the water, Mako sharks hitting a decoy. It's all in South Africa, all in Australia, all in Guadalupe. I get it. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:26:21 People want to watch that. It's awesome. That's not my thing. Yeah. I want to do rare sharks. I want to do weird sharks. I want to do fucking morphologically unique animals, places that haven't been seen.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I want to show the world that like, hey, diving in the UK is fucking spectacular if you know where to look and what to look at. And look at how cool some of these species right under our noses are. I've been trying to pitch and sell. and sell a Shark Week show on California species that aren't white sharks and makos for 10 years because there's so many cool species of shark here
Starting point is 00:26:48 that get no love. And I get it. Like from a network standpoint, I get it, right? People want to see the big toothy things. They're saving you from a failure. I don't agree. It would be a great hour of TV. It would not get ratings
Starting point is 00:27:02 and you've had a really good track record of good ratings. And that's why they keep asking you for more and more. I don't think, I just know, know what Shark Week is. Yeah. And who watches it. Right. And it's a great week for discovery.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It gets a younger demographic watching their channel. Yep. And younger people want to see big, scary teeth. Guy might get bitten in half. Absolutely. But that's just not me. I mean, I have those all the time where things almost try and bite me in half.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I just like, I'm not to go like dangle the carrot in front of the white shark. Oh, my God. Like it's like, that's why you have your own YouTube channel. Now you can do whatever you want, right? Oh, thank God. Yeah. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I will say, though, having your own YouTube channel now, like, there's, there's this balance of stuff when you put out videos that's like information and entertainment. And you're, you constantly have to, like, weigh the two to get the information in there and the entertainment. And I feel like with on TV, which is dying out, it's all entertainment. So you're not really learning that much when you're on TV, when you're a TV show. I disagree. I think they, especially the, the traditional cable networks definitely want the audience. to have takeaway because the audiences of traditional cable do skew older.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Yeah. Okay. And so they want to take away information and facts. You know, it's not the same people that are watching a Marvel movie. Just not in Shark Week because they're going to a different demographic. No, it's edutainment. So what you want really is to make something that is incredibly entertaining for an hour. And when you walk away, you don't realize that you've learned something.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And then the next morning you go, did you know that white sharks can actually swim at 44 miles an hour? That's wrong. but still, you know, can actually swim in 44 miles, and you're like, holy shit, I learned that yesterday, and I didn't realize it. Well, think about, like, planet Earth. It's a, you know, and that type of blue chip wildlife show. Oh, God, I love that.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's purely entertaining. Yeah. You don't even realize you're learning. Yeah. Yeah, it's so good. Because it's so visually stunning. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And the way that the cadence of the VO tells you things. Yeah. It's, like, relaxing. It's wildly entertaining. But at the same time, you learn, like, 60 things. Yeah, right. episode. It's so appealing that show. It's like the perfect
Starting point is 00:29:12 blend of like entertainment and education. I mean you're just, you watch and you're like, holy shit. And I think because it's because it's done so long. I know. I was going to say like, like, it takes years. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say like when they give you the facts and the storylines about it,
Starting point is 00:29:28 when you're watching it, you're like, how the hell did they get that shot? Like it's like macro lens, crazy. There's that whole story they put together about What was it a snake that was like chasing? Yeah, chasing the lizards and the Galapagos with the racers. Oh my God. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It was so incredible, man. Yeah. Yeah, there's something to it. Probably the best one I've ever seen was the one I made called Yellowstone 150. It was unbelievable. I still got to watch that. Yeah, you'll never see it. No, it's amazing, man.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's a real skill, right? To put craft. Yeah, to craft it in a way that people don't realize they're learning. And I think so much of it's dynamic. Like you learn as you go while you're shooting it, what stories you want to tell, what the animals are doing for behavior. Like you can't script it. You just go out and shoot and then build something around what you get. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Dude, it's cool because I think a lot of people that listen or watch our podcast, they really like look up to you, Forrest in a way where they're like, that's what I want my life to be. So whenever we talk about this behind the scene stuff, I think it's like just super interesting. like what it really is all about. Like even just trying to sell a Shark Week show and being like, oh, they would never do this fucking UK stuff. Watch, they're going to, they're going to buy it now. Now that I've said that, they're going to be like, next year, UK. They don't watch the show now.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh, yeah, it would. So we're UK heavy on this show, aren't we? Yeah, big cats, sharks, all kinds of things. Cookie was one of our, one of our guys on the pod. But yeah, Forrest, like I was saying, man, I've been, I've been following your YouTube channel pretty hardcore and just amazed Peter is a subscriber. No, I didn't subscribe.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Damn it. A's asshole. But, dude, it's gotten so big and I've been working on our YouTube channel for so long. How have you done this? How has it been so successful so quick? Well, that's a good question. I mean... He's like, I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I do know, but it's sort of multifaceted. I think one thing, you know, comparing it to talking about pitching Shark Week shows and stuff, I just do whatever I like now. Sure. Which is really, I think people relate to. to that. And it's funny, Pat, you, you probably don't even want to hear this. But the difference between, like, it's shot beautifully and it's on a red camera and it's polished and people don't give a shit, man. You should it, not on YouTube, on TV. Oh, yeah, yeah. But, like, we shoot it on an
Starting point is 00:31:50 iPhone. You shoot it on a GoPro. Like, as long as you're being raw and organic with whatever you're doing. And we're doing a couple different things on my YouTube. We do, like, office informational videos. And then we do, like, field stuff where we just, I go have fun and go bowfishing or whatever. And then we do, like, tours and stuff. So it just sort of depends. but it's so interesting to see that I think with the younger generation, which is what's mostly on YouTube, they don't care about the production quality as much as they care about it being real. Yeah, totally. And I think it's because they've been lied to so much in TV. Everything's so polished and perfect and pretty for so long.
Starting point is 00:32:23 They don't even watch TV anymore. That's what I mean. And it's like it's more fun to see raw stuff. But I mean, to answer your question, Peter, like it has been really successful. We started almost a year ago. You know, we started it in a very different way. Like I saved up money for a few years, hired a full. team of people to help with it, shoot, edit, post, promote, tag, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And we just sort of created this machine. I'm still in a hole on it. It's not like it's paying dividends, but it's getting to that point now where it's becoming viable to actually take the money that we're making on YouTube and put that back into expeditions and trips and new content. Well, so, I mean, you basically saved up so that you could, and had a plan to do this, to basically be able to just do kind of what you love without any network. interference or anything. And it worked. I mean, like, you know, people, people ask, like,
Starting point is 00:33:11 oh, how do you have a successful YouTube channel? I mean, don't get me wrong. The celebrity that you've gotten from TV has definitely helped. Certainly. Just like it's helped the podcast and everything. But, like, it goes to show you that you can't just, like, set up a YouTube channel and do bullshit. You have to, like, have a plan and enact all. I think you can. I mean, I think that's what a lot of these kids did, especially in 2014 or whatever, when YouTube was first, you know, on the scene. Well, back then is a different story. But yeah, no, I took a very different approach, which is, it's funny, because it's a different approach, but it's the same approach I take to everything. It doesn't matter if it's producing Extincter Alive, building a Shark Week or staying in YouTube, plan for years.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah. Build a whole plan. The plan will change. It'll evolve. It'll adapt. Build up a strategy, you know, and then execute it step by step. And that's exactly what we did. That doesn't mean I had three years of content planned out, not at all. We had zero years of content, but I was like, I start a bank account, put this much money away each month, build it to a point that I have a background, hire people that I think, because I, ask Kyle how fucking useless I am on computer stuff. Well, we know. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Like, I can't do any of it, right? So I hired it all out. I have all these young kids. Most of them are still in college. I'm not even kidding. Who are like great at making thumbnails and captioning and all the stuff that they can do, editing everything. I don't know to edit.
Starting point is 00:34:30 You don't know how to edit. We've never edited. And so I get all these young kids that get what the kids get. Of course. Hire them young, still in college as interns and then on the salary. I like them young. Yeah. And then yeah, they help me with all the stuff and they get the style.
Starting point is 00:34:46 They get the idea and we go on shoot something and they execute it. And I'm like, like Patrick would drive Patrick fucking insane because they show me a cut and I'm like, this is awful. Like the camera shaky. And it's like your biggest winner. Oh yeah. It's like the camera's shaky. There's no fluidity. The scoring doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:35:01 or it's awful. Yeah. And then you put it out there and people like, this is great. I don't really care. I just wanted to see what you were doing. I got a question. And this is for Pat,
Starting point is 00:35:08 because he's, he's been trying to crack this nut for 10 years since we started our original podcast in 2012. How do you make something go viral? Have you gotten closer to the recipe to make something go viral? No, I don't, I don't think I've made anything go viral.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Kyle? He's had some pretty big hits, millions of views. On shorts, yeah, on some of the YouTube shorts. We have as well. What's like his top viral video on shorts? Do you know off a fan? I do know what it is. What is it?
Starting point is 00:35:38 What is it? It's him just talking about a turtle eating a abscess off of a cow. Oh, yeah. Have you seen this clip? No. Dude, pull the clip up, Kyle. Not the one with my talking head. That's fucking heinous.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I want to pay attention to this because I also now want to know how to make a viral video. Okay. Well, I don't know how to make a viral video. But what I did do is take this clip. that Kyle's going to show you here. Yeah. Which is, so that's a Cape Buffalo standing in a pan, which is seasonal wet pool. And those are Cape Marsh Terrapins, of which I have two at home.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Right. And they're eating the abscess from the Cape Buffalo. Wow. Now, these animals, and you see it like pop and all the blood and pus and stuff. Oh, yeah. They're literally debriding this abscess on this buffalo, and the Buffalo is standing there accepting it. And this is a, this is, I love this, which is why I talked about it on and made this viral short, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But it's because it's such an incredible example of mules. mutualism. Yeah. Like this buffalo knows what's going on. It's standing in the waterhole. It may be in pain. It may not be. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:36 But these turtles are getting a meal. This buffalo is getting its woundy brided so it doesn't go gangreness and kill it. Yeah. And everything's kind of working together in the system. And I just found it freaking fascinating. So I talked about it for what, 15 seconds. Yeah. And apparently that's our most viral video.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I didn't even know that. So this is like a symbiotic relationship. So if the, if the, if the Cape Buffalo wasn't into this, they would be, these turtles would be parasites, right? No, that's not exactly how parasitism works. Parasites are ticks or leeches or things like that. But these turtles naturally pick off ticks and things from large animals. That's what they do in the wild.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So a lot of large animals come into these water holes to have these turtles pick parasites off. But these guys smelled this yucky blood and pus and we're like, whoa, dinner. Files are disgusting, by the way. And yeah, and yeah, so it's just, I just thought it was absolutely phenomenal. and I did like a little green screen of this. And I guess that's, I didn't even know this, but I guess that's our most viral video. So, I mean, yeah, it's sort of why we started the podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:39 We were like, we just want to tell stories that we think are interesting. That's it. We started your channel. It's cool. So Kyle had an interesting question. One million dollar budget. So it's not crazy. You can't go film for five years.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Right. But some cool brand says, here's a million bucks for us, wear our pants go do a fun expedition. Peter, same question to you. Get on board for. We want to sponsor your new YouTube channel. So we'll open it up to everybody. What's your dream piece of content?
Starting point is 00:38:08 So we'll start with Forrest because yours is going to be fun and outdoorsy. Okay. For a million bucks. Is that in our niche? Do you think people will like this? Pat's so hungry. I was kidding. It's a joke.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Of course. Outdoorsy niche. I have a million. I have a million bucks. Okay. Yeah. Hmm. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:38:26 think the dream piece of content for me to do with a million bucks would go to Antarctica and do like a walking thing with all of the penguins and the leopard seals and all of that. Yeah, I think that would be... Get in the water with the leopard seals? Yeah, I don't know if that's... It's definitely not going to have a good ROI. Like, it's not going to get enough people to watch it that it's worth a million dollars. Just because people have done it and they've seen it?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah, and I just don't think as many people care about penguins and leopard seals. But for me to go down there and see all the marine mammals and do the penguins, and interact with the leopard seals. You guys know the story, the leopard seal that brings the diver or the penguin. Wait, wait, wait, I got to hear this. But I mean, that was like one of the most viral pieces of animal content ever. True, true.
Starting point is 00:39:07 What was it? Paul Nicklin. Yeah, it is. So see this leopard seal here? Leopard seals are revered as like fearsome, deadly creatures. They're huge, whatever. Paul Nicklin was diving, photographing them. And this leopard seal went out and killed a penguin and was trying to force feed it to Paul
Starting point is 00:39:21 Nicklin. Oh, my God. Here, buddy, like you look hungry. Yeah. And it's like an amazing. It was incredibly. But, like, I'd love to experience all this. But to do this properly, you need a fat budget.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah. Like, this isn't like, oh, you've got 40 grand. Like, you have to have proper dive gear and proper wet suits and dry suits. And all the filming equipment has got to be, like, super high quality. All of it. Yeah. So that, I think, would be a good use visually of the million dollars. So I've never even seen a leopard seal.
Starting point is 00:39:49 This thing looks very large. How big is this thing? Oh, they're massive. Yeah. That's crazy. I don't know, Kyle, what are they 400 pounds? maybe a little bit bigger. Looks like a dog.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Oh, my God. Compared to a human, it's like four or five times the size. Oh, no, they're way bigger. What a 200 to 400 to 300 pounds. That's crazy. Wow. Like a walrus size.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And they're massively predatory. Like they're a pretty gnarly animal. Like if this thing was living on land, we'd be fucked. We'd actually be in good shape. I think we could outrun them on land. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, if it had feet.
Starting point is 00:40:21 But I think, yeah, I think that would be my dream, like, go do it yourself. Or, because I couldn't do like a, huge popua New Guinea thing for a million bucks. That would take way more. There are other huge Peruvian Andes thing. That would take more than a million bucks. So yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:34 What are yours? I want to hear your guys. I know what my content would be. I would, I would start a food, I would do a food critic channel. Oh yeah. And I would just go on a fucking food tour of Europe.
Starting point is 00:40:44 That sounds delightful. I would take trains around Europe, go to really nice restaurants that I wouldn't normally pay for. Yep. Yeah. And just fucking order everything on the menu and just start like a really, silly, silly little food channel. Sounds fun.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Dude, I spend, spend a summer in Europe, two months, but my wife leave the kid. You could do a good job at that and actually make a good show. Why aren't you pitching this? Because nobody would want. Since Anthony Bourdain's show ended, nobody wants to buy that show.
Starting point is 00:41:13 It's gone away. Yeah, yeah. Every celebrity is like, yeah, I'll just do a show where I take a friend and go eat. Yeah. And a couple of them, like Stanley Tucci has one. Yeah. It had a funny name.
Starting point is 00:41:25 two G's one. I don't remember what it was. That old rapper Action Bronson, I think, does it now. It's a little different than that. Yeah, but yeah. What would your, what would your show be? Oh, dude. I mean, it's a no-brainer. I've been obviously following the whole, you know, non-human intelligence, UFO, UAP thing. There, dude, there's so many high,
Starting point is 00:41:46 two ridiculously high-ranking guys, like Admiral, who's the head of NOAA, which is the National Oceanic, blah, blah, blah. Nobody calls it NOAA, by the way. Anyway. Noah. Anyways, Noah. That's my kid's name, so I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:42:01 But so they've come out and basically over the past just a couple weeks even have said that 100% there are not, there is non-human intelligence. These crafts are real. I mean, like, it's so. What does this have to do with a million dollars? Yeah, what's the show? So my show would be, I would obviously create a documentary where I could get. all of like the highest ranking people who have who have talked about this because there's all the bullshit people would talk about but the high like vetted highest ranking be like here's here's
Starting point is 00:42:36 50,000 dollars come talk about this on the show just be completely open and then try and bribe somebody with the rest of the money to put it on mainstream media so you would you would make the definitive alien documentary that's right okay I'm eating and you're exploring I'm playing with murder. It makes sense. Everyone's doing something they love. It really does. And I think about it more.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I'd probably end up spending like $800,000 doing really cool conservation stuff. And then the other 200 filming that conservation stuff. Yeah. I probably don't need a million dollars to go swim with leopard seals. I'd probably pay for like elephants to get moved and catch lions and stuff. Once you get into it is when you figure out what you're actually going to do. Yeah. But that's, I mean, you got to think about what that is before you go pitch it to the pants store.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I think I would have the most fun. I think Peter sounds. The most just difficult. A lot of work. A lot of work. A lot of writing and research. Yeah. Yeah, I would definitely get the most fat.
Starting point is 00:43:32 No question. For a million bucks, I'd have a trainer with me. Yeah, why not? Why not? How do you sell that to the network? By the way, I want to stay. No, they would, they would buy it. I think they'd be, they would be like, we don't want a fat person on TV.
Starting point is 00:43:43 All right. I want to play a game. I want to move us. I want to move us. Can we get a jingle, top three DFL jingle? Number two. Number three. Dead fucking lost.
Starting point is 00:43:54 All right, summer is upon us. Top three DFL. Top three DFL. Summer is upon us. Summer vacation. It's really simple. Everybody's got them. Go with your family.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You're going to the lake. You're going to the beach. You're going to the mountains. What are you doing? To escape the heat. Summer vacations. I can go first if you like. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Sure, go first. DFL for me. Did I just get a bleep? That was some kind of notification. Interesting. DFL for me going to the beach. I know it's insane. I live at the beach.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I live in Santa Barbara. My wife wants to do it five days a week minimum during the summer. And then we go there and do nothing, which is what I hate. You just sit on the beach. If I lived in the middle of the country, I think I'd feel differently. But just going to the beach. So this is your dead fucking last. You're doing first.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Oh, okay. Oh, sorry. I probably should have done the other word. It doesn't matter. I was just seething. Do you know how the game works? Apparently not. That's my DFL.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Just going and sitting on the beach on a towel. Kids are eating sand. Like, I have to sit there and cook. Like it's fun. It's unquestionably my DFL as well. It's work for you. It's just not fun. I just don't like going to the beach.
Starting point is 00:44:59 I'll go diving. I'll go spearfish. I'll go do any of it. You're a doer. I just don't want to sit on the beach. Yeah. Awful. So now top three.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Third place, going fly fishing in the mountains. Summertime. Streams are moving. You got to Colorado, Montana do some fly fishing. Oh, my God. Idaho.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Oh. It sounds great minus the fly fish. What are you catch in here? Trout. Just trout fishing. Okay. Top water. Get them on the dry flies.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I've never been. Can you take me? Dude, I'd love to. It's the best. When we eventually go to the Fat Tire House and Vail, that's what we're going to do. Oh, dude. Yes, please. Yes, please. Yeah, absolutely. That sounds incredible. It's a delight. Okay, that's number three. Number two is a dive trip.
Starting point is 00:45:39 It doesn't matter where. Just go down to Baja Pia Cortez. It can be California. Just go and diving. You're in the water all day, every day. You're on the boat. Are there clear waters anywhere in California or is it all murky? Channel Islands are fantastic, dude. Have you never been to Channel Islands? They're right. I haven't, no.
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Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah. You got a lake house where you walk out of your house to the boat. You go wakeboarding, wake skating, you play the loud music, you drink too much, you call it a day by 3 p.m. I love a lake trip. We go to Nassia Meno every with my family, or not every, but we try to. Lake Nassia Mano. I love a lake trip.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And it's because we live in. Southern California where we don't have lakes. Yeah. There's no such thing as fresh water here. Yeah. And going to like a nice lake trip. It's so nice. Fourth of July, the music.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Oh my God. The trees, you're usually in a forest of some sort, man. A lake trip. The smell. And I love wake surfing. Like not wakeboarding, but wake surfing. I love wake surfing. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:47:11 What's the difference? No rope. So you just get up on the board. I've got some videos. How do you move? Dude, Kyle, find the one of me. See if you can type my name in if it pops up where I taught my son. how to do it. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Wait, but how are you moving forward? Yeah, that first one right there. I remember this video. On the wave. Oh, that's an old one. This is with the dog. Oh, so you just you're lying on the board. So there's no motor. I'm behind a boat and the boat's creating a wake. And if you know how to surf, you just surf the wake. Wow. And it goes indefinitely. I did one with my three-year-old son too last summer and taught him how to surf and it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Dude, I don't know as much about physics as I thought I did. It's got a motor. yeah no that's a couple of good pick yeah yeah lake house vacation is fantastic no pressure no pressure to have fun god i love it
Starting point is 00:48:01 that's a really good pick you always play frisbee you always barbecue at the lakehouse do you guys mind if I go next just to get mine off can we go to a lake house please honestly i can't think of anything else I just want to go to a lake house
Starting point is 00:48:12 sounds so good man i'll tell you before i had kids my top my third out of my top three is definitely the beach. I mean, I love going and laying in the sun, man, just having some beers, having music chatting. Yeah, I'm a beached whale.
Starting point is 00:48:30 But, and I will say, so that's like my third, but after kids in marriage, it's just work. It's like kids are running around trying to not to keep them from drowning. It's terrible. But that was that it was it. Number two, my God, I am so excited to take my kid and my boy and my girl, if she's into it, camping for the first time. where it's not just work and I have to keep them.
Starting point is 00:48:53 But, dude, I love camping. I love setting it all up. I love sitting around the fire. Oh, my God. I swear. Dude, when I lived in, back in Chicago area, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:01 we would go camping all the time in Wisconsin and around there. So I just love it. Camping and I did go. So I'll say, I'll be specific. Camping in Yosemite was one of my favorite places I ever went, man. So nice.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And then number one, God, I didn't even think about this. for number one. Number two things that you like. Yeah, I know. Camping is probably number one. But let's say,
Starting point is 00:49:29 God, it's so meaningless now, but that lakehouse sounds so nice. That's fine. Yeah. We can all have a lake house. Who cares? Wedding Crashers.
Starting point is 00:49:38 You guys seen wedding crashes? That had a nice lake house, I think. And DFL will be priced. It's actually where I'm going on vacation shortly. where Mexico dude what I'm going to fucking
Starting point is 00:49:54 Cabo bro no come on Mexico's phenomenal with my family at a children's friendly resort sounds like great well that's just because you know you have to do it soon yeah listen I'm gonna I love Cabo I'm gonna have fine I'm gonna do it but I will tell you it's the last place I would have picked actually I would have not picked a cruise over that but I had fun on the one cruise we did not with kids though I'm talking. Oh, God, no.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Not in a tiny room. Stuck in a tiny room on a boat with two kids. Holy shit. I just leave them locked in the room and then I'd go to the casino. I'm going to go number three. You're going to be surprised by this. Denver. Ooh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'll tell you exactly what you do. You fly in. Flying to Denver. There's a train that takes you from the airport right to downtown Denver. It's like 20 minutes. You're on a train. Already a plus. beautiful clean city
Starting point is 00:50:50 you get tickets you go to red rocks buy a little legal weed even though I don't smoke weed I'll do it there I did I've done it there I've done this exact vacation it was lovely Red Rocks is nice one night drink some beers
Starting point is 00:51:03 you smoke some smoke some weed watch a cool concert it's beautiful and then a Saturday afternoon you just walk from your hotel over to the Colorado Rocky Stadium cheap ass tickets sit right up front drink a bunch of
Starting point is 00:51:18 beers. Denver in the summer is lovely. That sounds fantastic. Use of the mountains. It's a nice trip. Number two, I'm taking Forrest's idea, a lakehouse. My brother had a lakehouse in Ithaca, New York. Okay. Nice. Spent a summer there during the beginning of COVID.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I remember that. I remember you drove out there. That was insane. That's right. I had probably one of the best summers of my life, just on the lake, taking the boat out, paddleboarding every morning. Getting away from everything. Dude, being on East Coast time, too, when all my work stuff was West Coast time.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah. I would spend like three hours doing like lake shit. Can we buy a lakehouse? Dude, like a wild times lakehouse? I think we could. How much can a lake house in like Michigan be? I've got to go funny.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I've Googled cheapest places to own lakehouse like 20 times. And do you know? It's like all these places in the middle. Yeah, I don't know. So that's number two. He sold it. Bastard. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:52:12 He should have sold it to us. Everybody in the family was quite upset. I'm sure. They were all using him for his lake. I'll see, pretty much. And the number one. Let's see, what would number one be? I did the same thing as you.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I blew my two easy ones. Yeah, it's easy to come up with two. I'll tell you what number one is. It's the trip I'm about to do. Key West. I love it. You're a Key West guy. I've been going since I was like 19.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Tropical, you're covered in sweat. It's hot as shit. Oh, it's a hot. You got your chubby's on. Yeah, you pop in the pool. You pop in the AC. You walk to the green parrot bar to watch a game. fucking tall locals.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Most people don't have shirts on. Or they just got the overshirt, unbuttoned down. Yeah, every restaurant bar has misters. Yeah. Just hang out in front of a mister and just drink beers. You don't even get drunk because you're sweating it all out so fast. I love Key West. I love it, man.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Jimmy Buffett music playing everywhere. Every single bar. Yeah. I like that. It's wonderful. DFL easy beach. I hated the beach when I was single. I hate the beach with kids.
Starting point is 00:53:13 It's crazy that we both feel that way. We both live at the beach. I have no fucking interest in going to the beach. My wife gets, she loves it. She thinks it's a God-given right to be within five minutes of the beach. Yeah. I'm like, she's like, oh, should we pop over to Malibu? I sold her on moving to where we moved because I wanted to get out of the city.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah. On the fact that we're only 15 minutes from the beach at Malibu. Right. Yeah. And so she bought that. Yep. And so she's like, oh, Saturday, should we go to the beach? I'm like, ah, the kids are going to ruin it.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Like, there's no parking. The parking. Oh, the parking. I don't have that problem in Santa Barbara. Down here, there's no parking. You know what? Get the beach. Crabbs biting your toes.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I think this would be a good one that we encourage our listeners to write yours in the comments because I would love more. These ones have made me literally like giddy inside. Like, I know I want to go do these. Let us know what your top three. I have two things to add. One honorable mention for the river float, which none of us thought of. Always a delightful time. Love a good river float.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Two, speaking about Key West. if you haven't seen it, and this is for the Brosners, not just you guys. The new Roadhouse movie is one of the best movies. Does it take place in Key West? It takes place in Key West. It's Jake Gyllenhaal looking insanely shredded. Connor McGregor literally doesn't even know that he's on set. It's like he just walked, it's like he just walked in by accident.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Is that roided up McGregor? Dude, it's the worst acting I've ever seen ever, ever, ever. It's such a good movie, bro. It is like... I'm definitely watching this. this tonight. I swear to God, I watched the two nights in a row. But let me set your expectations. It's not a good movie. Of course. Okay. As long as you know that. Two of the three stars aren't actors. Exactly right. Exactly right. Wait, who's the second one? Post Malone. Oh my god. He's only in the
Starting point is 00:55:03 very beginning of it. But listen, it's my wife's favorite. It's so good, dude. It's like an true 80s movie. It's an hour and a half, which is the perfect movie. Yeah, yeah. There's basically no story. It's like Little bit of dialogue, bar fight. Little bit of dialogue, bar fight. Little bit of dialogue, big ending bar fight. Perfect movie. Yeah, we're watching it tonight. Do you get shirtless Jillon Hall?
Starting point is 00:55:24 So much. He barely has a shirt on. It's phenomenal. My buddy used to be his personal trainer. Oh, really? I remember that. You told me that. I was like, is he on the stuff?
Starting point is 00:55:34 You know? Yeah. He's got the little stuff. And he was like, he was like he's one of the most maniacal animals in the gym I've ever seen. I believe it. Yeah. Like he is like he will, work so hard for like an hour and a half to the point where he has to open the door,
Starting point is 00:55:50 puke. And it's like, let's go. I love that. Yeah. I love that. It makes me like him more. It's dude, you guys got to watch it. It's so good. It's such a fun beat him up. I'm gonna beat him up. If I suggest this to my wife and force her to watch it, it's going to be like, just tell her it takes place in Cabo. I'll just tell her, I'll tell her post Malone's in it. And then I'll tell her Jake Gyllenhauls in it, Topless. Yeah. Just. be like, hey, we're going to Cabo. It's a Cabo movie. And then when the first scene, when you see it's Key West, be like, oh, Forrest said it was Cabo. Yeah, that's fine. Do that. Put it on me. You're, you're smooth. You got a silver tongue. You're really smart at these types of things.
Starting point is 00:56:27 That's how I'm going to sell it tonight is it takes place in Key West. He's already thought about it. Yeah, he's three steps ahead as to how this is going to play out. By the way, we're redoing the inside of my house, I mentioned. And so it's all torn up, man. And so, and they're redoing the floor, so they're moving shit around. And so they're We had to take the couch apart. Okay. So the current configuration is there's couch in front of the TV. And then the big Shays lounge that's normally attached to the couch is behind it.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Oh, confusing. Oh, what? It's right behind it. Yeah, just to move it around for the force. Yeah, yeah. So, like, big enough for one, you know? Yeah. So, like, it's a pretty good setup for me because I got a little tray that attaches to the,
Starting point is 00:57:07 this is a little life act, a little joy. It's a little tray that clamps to the side to the arm of your couch. Okay. Oh, nice. Set your Bev there. I got my personal shays behind the couch. I don't have to talk to anyone because I'm back there. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:23 What a stroke of luck. It's a good movie watching set up. What a treat. You don't have to hang out with your family nearby. They're in front of me. They can't even tell them there. Oh, my God. How wonderful.
Starting point is 00:57:31 No, I love my family. It's a treat. Peter, do the thing. Ah, the thing. This has been fun. Yeah, it's always fun. Listen, we do six per month of these. You can get them all ad free on Spotify.
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