Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Can Piranhas Bite Your Genitals Off? - The Wild Times Ep. 107

Episode Date: December 5, 2022

The Wild Times crew discuss the discovery of the longest animal in the world, the new Cocaine Bear movie, and realizing at an early age to be nice to animals.   Leave a review on iTunes Apple Podcast: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/itune...   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildtimespod/   Official Website: https://wildtimes.club/   Info: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/info   Merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch   Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/wildtimespod  Enjoy, brosteners!

A 175 pound bear. Yes. And it ate how much cocaine? 50 kilos. So it ate 110 pounds of cocaine. Yeah. That somehow was like drug smugglers dropped off in a little plane or something and went on a rampage. And so it sounds fantastic.

That is the entire premise of the film, by the way. It's just a bear gets into some coke and goes on a blood-fueled rampage. Yeah. And it's based on a true story. It's, I'm pretty sure the bear in real life killed like three or three or, four people. Did it? Actually? I don't remember. No. I don't think so. It probably just had a heart attack and died.

Dude, you can't consume two-thirds of your body weight and cocaine. That's outrageous. Wild times. In the studio, this is Peter's living room. Which is a studio for us. Yeah, it's a studio. It's the formal living room. It is. It's true. He's one of those fancy guys who

has a huge house in two living rooms. He's very, very affluent. So he has extremely a living room. It's really nice in here. And we'd ever use it. It actually is really nice in here. I'm glad we use it for this. This is podcast number 107. 107. 107 podcasts that we've done now. I'm your host, Forrest Galante, the broologist, joining me as always, the one and only, Charlie. Woof. On my left here, I have Mr. Patrick DeLucah. The broducer himself. What's going on, Pat? Dude, happy to be here in person with you.

Happy to see the mullet in person. It's nice. Yeah. It's getting long in the back. It sort of changes the way you feel about someone. Yeah. Do I look trashier? Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. That was like a pretty, there wasn't a lot of depth to go to from where I was at before. So that's nice. And what don't you do? Why don't you introduce? Next to me.

On my left. Yeah. Camera right. Cammer right. That's how I do it. Yeah, exactly. Thanks. I'm happy to be here, too.

I'm here every day. So happy to be here with you, gentlemen, today. Good. That's nice. Retep, tell us what it's like to have a formal living room. I mean, you're sitting in it. This is what it is. How often do you actually spend time in this room?

Less than 1% of a total time. Even though it's right by the front door. And it's also the largest portion of the house. You know why? Because there's no TV in here. Yeah. Well, I mean, you're looking at a TV. When I'm looking at like a, I thought this thing was a prop.

But like, it's funny because we're looking at, me and my wife are looking at. Hack up a lung. Yeah, no shit. My wife and I are looking at houses right now. And like 85% of the fucking houses you go to look at have this formal living room, this extra area where you're like, that is such a way. I would have rather had another bedroom, another bathroom. We'll never use it. If it's not directly attached to your kitchen, it will.

will not be touched. It's correct. Except two days a year. Three, maybe, if you celebrate Easter. Well, for us, Peter bought this house knowing that we needed a podcast space.

Yeah, exactly. We no longer pay rent on a podcast studio and we have this lovely space. Yeah, it's fantastic. It does work out. We have a mobile podcast studio. Work out. Indeed.

What are you up to? For Host? Did we introduce what the show is? For host. I don't know. Everybody knows. Well, you know, not everybody knows. Because we have 175,000

YouTube subscribers as of the minute that we're doing. And I would say the vast majority subscribed in the last two months. I know. So they actually don't all know. So if you're new, welcome. Go back. There's 106 other episodes to watch. Don't. They're great. Just listen to them.

Dude, I've gotten a lot of messages from new brosters who are like, I'm, I just fit like, I just binged it. Oh, I know. It's crazy. I had people tagging me. You know how towards the end of the year you get your like Spotify most played, Apple most played? I have people tagging me being like, oh, this is my most listened to thing,

a thousand hours of your garbage show. I got a message as well from a guy named Dylan Christensen, which I think is actually a pseudonym for my ex-wife. Because she actually said this to me verbatim while we were married. Kyle, can you pull this up? You know what he's going to do, right? He's texted to us five times. So it was a public comment on the YouTube,

and it reads, Am I the only one who fucking hates Peter? He literally brings nothing. to the podcast. I don't understand why he's on the podcast. I wish the guy came with a mute button. So thank you ex-wife. I know that's you. There's no way an actual person feels that way about me who I've never encountered with. It's impossible that anyone could feel that way. But I do wish I had a mute button. It'd be nice. Your wife, your current wife wishes you had a mute button. Am I the only one who fucking hates Peter? That's so funny. I don't think that's very nice. No. Well, I don't,

compared to the ones I've seen of you guys, but yeah. Oh, I just don't tell you. Oh, are there terrible ones of us, too? Yeah, of course. Anytime you have 100,000 plus people that have the ability to comment at free will, they're going to, someone's going to despise either your face, your voice, something you said. Here's the thing about this one. I got it yesterday.

It was emailed to me as a notification from YouTube. And I was already having a shitty day just because. And then I get this fucking message. and I'm just like, man, I'm not going to let it affect me. I don't give a shit. So you have three choices in that scenario. Hold on. I'm not going to let it affect me.

I don't give a fuck. And yet we're still talking about it. No. And then I'm good for like two hours. By the end of the day, I was literally searching for this guy on Google, trying to figure out who he is. He doesn't know that you're like a hacker guy. Like you're going to track him slash her down and give him the people's elbow. I'll tell you, Dylan.

Can I tell the fantasy football story? I think so. I don't even know what it is. But yeah, when you hacked. the yeah you have to tell so Peter was really mad because the commissioner of his fantasy football league did something to him and I don't

remember what it was okay like veto to trade what it was Peter I don't remember no it was like he vetoed a trade or something like stupid fantasy football shit sure sure and Peter was just steaming we're working on this National Geographic show and I go into his AE fucking room and he's just like steaming mad he's like yeah

guess what I just did and he fucking hacked into the commission The commissioner's thing. No way. The commissioner portal. Went in and just dropped all the players off the commissioners team. No way. But here at the wild times,

you like to talk about it is wildlife related. Those who don't know, Forrest is a wildlife biologist. Sometimes. I'm a producer who works in the field. Yep. And Retepp's the every man who gives us that perspective. No, no, I'm nobody.

And Kyle, the producer is just kind of an outdoorsy guy. He is. He is. And his mustache is getting thicker, finally. It's not looking. He's still very young. Head full thin. So we do talk about wildlife

and what's going on in the world in this podcast. So, you know what we haven't done a little bit? Let's get into a segment. What's in the news? What's in the news? Yeah, baby.

This is where I'm psychopedic knowledge of wildlife and animals, which I had zero before. I saw something interesting in the news. What are you going? Ready for this? Yeah. Discovered.

In the deep sea, of course, that's where we discover everything. Yep. The longest living animal in the world. As in, it lives the longest or it is physically the longest? Sorry, that's a very good point. I worded that terribly. It is the longest animal on earth in life. The longest animal. Yes. But not the biggest. Nope, but the longest. Okay. What do we got? So off the west coast of Australia. Of course it's there.

45 meter, not foot, 45 meter long deep sea siphonophore. So like jellyfish, basically. Right. Okay. 45 meters long. Just imagine this giant string of jellyfish chain. How long is a meter for us? Three and a half feet. So we're looking at 135, we're looking at 157 feet. That's math. Yeah.

157 feet long. Living animal. How long is a school bus, Kyle? That is. It's going to be 40 feet, I'm guessing. 35. 35 feet. So we're talking about basically five school buses.

That's long. very long animal. What is this thing? So, syphonophore, it's a filter feeding jellyfish, right? So it's like when you see selps or things like that, Kyle's got a video up of it on the screen here. And so what it is is it's actually really interesting. A lot of these syphonophores, jellyfish,

these gelatinous deep sea creatures are actually multiple living organisms that are linked. So this could actually be millions of living organisms that are living right next to each other. And I'm not sure, I don't think they know because they just have video footage of it. Right. Like, there's things like Selps. Kyle, if you just Google Selp, S-A-L-PS,

that are whole colonies of living jellyfish that come together to form one giant organism. So, like, look there with a diver. Oh, that's cool. Those are all different living organisms, but they link up to make one gigantic organism. And I've seen Selps that are five, eight, six feet long, you know, whatever. but to have one that's 45 meters long, 160 foot long, is unbelievable.

Yeah, I mean, with the Selps, what's the benefit to the Selps? Is this how they reproduce or like, do they exchange nutrients? Why do they do this? That's a good question. I actually don't know what the benefit is. I mean, maybe Kyle can look it up, but I mean, it makes sense in the sense of you're a very soft, fragile gelatinous creature. You're getting, you're filter feeding and getting zooplankton and algae from

the sun in the ocean. And so in order to not just be demolished by a fish's fin or gobbled up by anything, if you sort of link up and group together, it's not just the safety in numbers, but it just sort of makes you a larger mass and less likely to just be destroyed. But I don't know if that's exactly why. Yeah, it says they synchronize when threatened by predators or strong waves and currents. Yeah, there you go. But it just makes sense. I mean, they're literally, like, I've been in places, I don't even like to admit this, where you're diving and the selps are so thick, like you just push your hand and you, like, destroy like four of them, right? But when they're all linked together, they're much more, you know, it's like taking a twig and snapping it, easy,

stack a bunch of twigs, you can't break it, right? So they found this 160, 170 foot creature, 2,000 feet down in an underwater canyon off the coast of Western Australia. For those who are only listening, it just looks like a thin white rope that's all swirled up. Yep. Just kind of floating there. Yep. That's pretty cool. That's pretty amazing. And the other thing that's interesting about deep sea syphonophores, because they are filter feeders,

there's much less to eat down there. So it sort of begs the question because, you know, syphonophores, they're eating zooplankton and algae, right? Which is a product of the sun in photosynthesis. So if you're in the deep sea, it's very interesting to think, how do you get something that's that huge that's being bios sustained in that depth without, you know, solar interaction?

So maybe that has a vertical migration. Maybe that giant thing comes up. during the day and sinks at night. Who knows, but it is really interesting. So it's interesting, though, that there's so, there's less food down there. But, you know, things like sperm whales. Yeah.

Dive really deep to feed. Giant squid live really deep. Yeah. So, so there, there are maybe a lot of fish down there, a lot of stuff to eat for larger predators, but for these things. Oh, undeniably, there's a whole ecosystem down there. And I mean, there's a massive ecosystem just based on dead.

stuff that sinks to the depths, you know, like dead whales and things that sink down and bring nutrients. So if you think about like the surface of the ocean and you think about all the sun rays hitting the ocean, anytime any of those zooplankton, algae's phytoplankton die, they sink down because they stop swimming. And so if you ever look at deep, deep sea footage, it often looks like it's snowing. And what that snowstorm look is is actually dying and sort of, you know, congregating mass of bio-nutrients coming from the surface and sinking down into the deep ocean, which is actually, it's not as bio-available because it's dead and it's rotted, and, you know, it's not as abundant and lively as it is on the surface where there's photosynthesis,

but there is this sort of snowstorm of micronutrients available down there, which has formed a whole ecosystem. And until the 80s or 90s, I forget, we thought every ecosystem, every form of life known to man was founded by the sun, and then we discovered hydrothermal vents in those ecosystems. Right. Oh, there's a whole other type of life down here that doesn't require, you know, sun energy. Right. Which is fucking crazy, because they survive off the methane, right, that comes up?

Correct. Yeah, the heat generated from the methane and just that whole thing. But it also sort of changed our understanding of life, as we know it, because we always looked at life, like, extraterrestrial life, aliens, as being like, oh, you know, if the planet's in a certain way, there's no way it could support life, because it doesn't have sun, it doesn't have photosynthesis, blah, blah, and then it's like, oh, wait a minute,

life can evolve completely independently of photosynthesis. Right. What do you think you'd be more interested in if you got to see one of these two things happen in your lifetime? They discover a deep sea creature that is like twice as big as a blue whale, that's like some crazy thing. It's a predator. It's got big teeth.

It doesn't look like anything known right now. The meg. It's essentially a megalodon, but it's got octopus arms. it's fucking, you know, it's the craziest thing ever. Okay. They discover that or in your lifetime, UFO comes down, lands, little green alien fellows walk out. Why know Peter's answer?

Well, yeah, I mean, it's obviously, it'd be way more insane for the alien to come down. Okay. Is that more insane? Yeah, of course. I mean, it's a mega predator in the deep ocean. It involves changing our entire understanding of physics. But we know there's, well, we don't,

know, but we also do, we don't know, but we know that there's other life. We just don't know how far. What do you mean? Well, let me ask you that again. Because if an alien form came to Earth in some kind of a craft that defies the laws of gravity as we know it, for example, which is how

most theories think that aliens do get here, it's more than just discovering another biological creature that's under the sea. In my opinion, my professional opinion, what do you go for? I'd rather see the giant, deep-sbrador. The giant megalodom of

octopus arms? Why? Why? What's your reasoning? Just, it's dope? An alien wouldn't be dope? Come on. What if, okay, so what if it's this megalodon, it's the size of two blue whales, it's got octopus arms, it dies and somehow floats to the surface for whatever reason?

They cut it open to see what it's been eating, and they realize it only eats humans. Then I like it even more. That's like the worst thing ever. 100% of people who have ever gone missing in the ocean were eaten by this creature. Yeah, no, I love that. Not only is that great, I might take that.

It's a great movie premise. Great movie premise. All right, let's talk about movie premise. Aliens aren't a good movie premise. You're right. No, there's never been a good one. I'm looking at an alien right now. Peter's cat has been shaved except for its face.

Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah. Sammy. Come here. Nope. We'll just sit up there and watch. Yeah, I mean, it happened. She got all matted up.

He got all matted up. You got a shave. But you didn't have to get him the lion cut. He's got little boots. Well, he looks ridiculous if you just get him shaved without the lion cut. No, right now he does it at all. He doesn't look more ridiculous than that. Trust me, he'd look as bad as you do.

So just when we were waiting for Kyle, for us brought up to us a movie that's coming out. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Called Cocaine Bear. This is a real movie. Real movie. Directed by Elizabeth Banks. It's already my favorite movie, and I haven't seen it.

Yeah. The premise is very simple. Very simple. Which I think is based in a real story that Peter reminded me we did actually discuss on the pod at some point. So maybe a Brostner can comment in the comments on this video as to what episode. But it was 175 pound bear. Yes. And it ate how much cocaine?

50 kilos. So it ate 110 pounds of cocaine. Yeah. That somehow was like drug smugglers dropped off in a little plane or something and went on a rampage. It sounds fantastic. And that is the entire premise of the film, by the way. It's just a bear gets into some coke and goes on a blood-fueled rampage. Yeah, and it's based on a true story.

I'm pretty sure the bear in real life killed like three or four people. Did it? Actually? I don't remember. No. I don't think so. It probably just had a heart attack and died. Dude, you can't consume two-thirds of your body weight and cocaine.

That's outrageous. So it's like kind of like a shark-nado comedy-type movie. Oh, yeah. It's not like a drama. In the trailer I saw, I'm sure we can't play it. because we'll be shut down on YouTube. Immediately. In the trailer I saw,

there's like a kid in a tree and he's like, hey, there's a bear over there. And the guy's like, yeah? The kid's like, the bear's fucked. So it's like, they've taken a very like... The bear's yacked out of its gourd. Yeah, yeah. They've taken a fun approach.

Look at the photo. Kyle, go to the photo on the left, second one down. Yeah, that. That's not snow. Yeah. That's like... Dude.

But it made me think of like, you know, in like the Florida Keys, there's something called the square grouper, which is like, you know, the drug smugglers. Yeah, throw the... Drop the bales of coke over the boat. Have you heard about this, Peter? No, I don't know.

I haven't heard. Can I explain it? Yeah, yeah. So in the Keys, they smuggle in tons of... Well, it's... Pott is... It used to be pot, but pots now, like, kind of whatever, but pot and Coke from Cuba and Columbia and Central America.

And what they do is they'd run up in these, like, massively overpowered Pongas boats at night and drop over... board a big square bail. And they got called square groupers, groupers type of fish. So they go on the radio and be like, hey, there's a grouper over here, square grouper, you know, and that

was like the code. So I'm sure I'm kind of butchering it in Florida. People will get on me for it. But square grouper is the code for a square bail of drugs floating offshore in the keys. Because it kind of looks like a group, you know, looks like a grouper. So I'm like, cocaine shark. Yeah.

You have to make this movie. Oh, absolutely. A shark thinks there's a grouper. Yep. It eats it. He eats 30 pounds of Coke and just goes mental. You see its eyes roll back in its head and it's just like, Oh, guess what? It's also spring break.

Of course. Yeah, it has to be. Yeah. It's like a more interesting version of Jaws. Way more interesting. Also, it's, so it'd have to be like the sequel to this now because it's not original anymore. Okay, while we're on this topic, we were on watching the news and there's plenty more news. We can circle back.

Have you guys watched the new Netflix Wednesday series yet? I watched the first episode, yeah. A couple episodes. Perfect. That's all you need to have watched to dig into what I'm about to bring out. Wednesday Adams. It's great, by the way. If you haven't seen it, it's fun.

It's like, it's not very Adams family, but there's a lot of ties if you're like a 90s, 80s kid. Opening scene of the show, Wednesday Adams at public school, her brother, Pugsley's getting bullied by the water polo team. Right. Remember this? Of course. She takes two bags of piranhas to the pool, dumps them in, and the piranhas in a fantastic. like CG nonsensey way Chase down like the main bully

And bite his genitals off I didn't see that part but it's great You didn't see that part? No I only I was I think it was like yeah It was like the first three minutes Yeah Okay anyway

That's how she gets sent to like the special School for Misfits or whatever But um Peter is the layman Sure You're on the water polo team He looked like a big feller He looked like you could have played polo

Fat yeah Didn't used to be A A small goth girl walks up to training. Yep. Two bags of piranhas in her hands dumps them in the swimming pool. What are you doing?

I mean, I would try my hardest to grab her and throw her in. I would just be swimming. Are you getting out of the pool at top speed? Like what are you talking? Of course. Of course. I'm swimming to the side as fast as fatly possible. What do you think would actually happen? I think it would, I mean, I don't

know too much about piranhas, but I imagine they would bite your dick off. Well, that's what they did in the series. What do you think that? I think they would possibly be fucked up by the chlorine. Definitely. Very confused and, like, just fucking die.

But right away? They would cower in fear in like the lower corner of the pool, probably in temperature shock from getting dumped in. Right. And then probably die in about 15. Are you sure she didn't hold the bags in the water like you do when you get a new face? She floated them. She's like, up, stay there.

Hey, stay there, bully. I got to get them up to temperature. Well, it's also possible that she went to the Amazon, found a stagnant pool. True. where these piranhas hadn't eaten in a long, long time. That's true. Now, yeah, see, now you get into the good part. Yeah.

If you, if you starved the piranhas, would it make a difference? This is the point. This is the point of the topic. It's really fun in Hollywood. Piranhas are not a dangerous fish, asterix typically. Okay. And I think a lot of people don't know this because, look, there is the movie Parano, which I think was spring break at Lake Havas. Oh, yeah, it was.

Yeah. And piranha 3D, which was fantastic. Yeah. That was good. But, yeah, it's always funny to me because there's always this, idea that the piranhas are these deadly predators, it'll rip you to shreds. I've gone swimming in the Amazon every single time I've gone there. And so does everybody.

And it's not, you know, the local swim in the Amazon and everything. Piranhas have zero interest in picking you apart unless a very severe set of conditions are met, which I don't think we've ever discussed on the pod, which is kind of interesting. So the reason piranhas get this fearsome reputation is pretty cool. The Amazon's a floodplain, right, in a wetland. every year the waters rise and they drop. And what happens is sometimes big storm, whatever, waters rise, and then the water level drops and lots of pools form with fish trapped in them.

And as the season, dry season goes on, the fish start eating each other and so on. And piranhas are predators. Don't get me wrong. Like, they'll eat anything when you're fishing for them. It's awesome. But they're not just like attack you and rip you to the bone. Right. But as the dry season comes along and the water level drops,

all these fish get stuck in these pools. pools and the piranhas pack up and start eating everything. Well, they get to a certain point where there's a whole school of piranhas. They've killed absolutely everything else in the pool and they are starving to death. And that's when only a few times this has happened. A cow goes wandering into the pool. A human kid jumps in for a swim or something. And they do, they're in such a state of starvation and they're in such a hyper state of

competition with each other that they actually do go into a frenzy state where one nip on something, blood will start from that area. And then they just go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they have actually, Kyle, you might be able to find it actually. There was a 100% accurate instance of a cow getting stripped down to the bone. A live cow walked into a pool and stripped this thing down to the flesh. That's crazy. So it does happen. It's real, is my point. But it's funny because typically, I mean, you go swimming in rivers all the time, full of piranhas. You know, people keep piranhas pets. You put your hand in there and clean the tank. It's like...

Where are they... Oh, wow. There you go. Look at that. Holy crap. So he's got that... He's got, what, a lamb leg or something like that there? Skull, it looks like.

It's holding the... Yeah, a cow's skull. And look at the piranhas just boiling on it. Isn't that fascinating? That's wild. Yeah. So where are piranhas mostly found? Are they like...

The Amazon. Just the Amazon? And where else? Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. That's not true. I mean, South America, but mostly the Amazon basin and like into the flood plains and stuff.

And fish tanks. and fish tanks. And I can tell you, if you live in Santa Barbara, there are two giant red belly piranha that someone has let go in the Alice Keg Park in downtown Santa Barbara. I've seen them there. Really? Really? Uh-huh. Wow.

I don't know who got them. So there's this park. Google it real quick, Kyle. Let's see. Alice Keg Park, Santa Barbara. And it is an amalgamation of disaster of creatures. It's like the Florida of Santa Barbara. It's just like everything in this pond in the down.

downtown city park of Santa Barbara. There are like eight different turtle species. There's soft shell turtles, red ear sliders. I've seen map turtles, painted turtles, all kinds of shit that doesn't, isn't native there. There's Pacu fish in there. There's piranhas in there. I've seen giant placustimus, the big armored catfish. Everybody that has an exotic pet, aquatic pet in Santa Barbara, it's like, ooh, can't have this anymore, has dumped it in this bond there.

Yeah. Interesting. I'm surprised nobody steps in and is like, all right, let's get this sorted out. They did at one point in time, and it's just sort of come back. Like it's just like a known, whoever the illegal fishkeepers of Santa Barbara Club are, they keep going back there. Yeah. Well, I got a question for you guys. It's a picture of this, and I wanted your take on it.

What would be, I'm just going to ask you a question. What would be the worst pet that a person could have? To keep aquatic pet. Or to free? No, to keep. To keep it have as a pet. It's like an aquatic found in like swamps. lakes. I'm going to be even more specific. A freshwater.

Yeah. I'm thinking the worst pet. Like for the owner or for the pet? For the owner? For the owner. Oh, okay. And everybody who's around him. Um, okay. Yeah, I know the answer. Okay. It's a freshwater river dolphin. Okay. Yeah. Like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, Ganges River dolphin. Okay. Kyle, Kyle, see if you can find a picture of the guy who has a leech as a pet. I mean, that's pretty disgusting. It is horrific. This just came out.

I just saw it yesterday. He has got this giant leech just sucking his arm right here. That's the one. If you can make that big and... I don't care for this. Look at how disgusting this thing is. And he lets it feed off his own arm. Does this guy have any friends or...

No, absolutely not. I don't care much for this. He certainly doesn't have a companion. This is got to be like unsafe, right? Or leech is just okay to do this? as long as they don't have diseases? Well, yes, to that. I mean, you know, I suppose in what quantity, right?

You get anemic at a certain point. He must be eaten like three stakes a day, this guy. Yeah, but it's just gross. I mean, it's just gross. It's terrible, right? It's disgusting. Like, look, if you told me you could have a jar with a big leech in it and, like, throw it a goldfish once in a while,

I'd be like, yeah, that's kind of cool. You see it swim around, grab a cold fish. That's dope. If you're buddies with a leech and you pull it out and let it slurp onto your inner thigh, while you sit and watch TV. You need to seek some help. Right.

It's not right. That's not right. Is that? Go to the top left photo. Is that a leech? That can't be a leech. No, that's an anaconda. A snake.

But man, I didn't know they were so disgusting looking when it's all fat and full like that. There's a lot of different species of leech. Some, where do they get these really big ones? The only ones I've seen are the little guys. I don't know where the largest species of leech comes from. I mean, the biggest ones I've seen are like that big. Yeah. I've never seen the like those ones.

I know when I was in Istanbul, where are they from? Giant, of course, the Amazon. Of course, yeah. Either Florida or the Amazon. So that's probably a giant Amazon leech to get up to 18 inches long. That's so gross. Yeah, the good thing with those, though, is you can fucking see them. Yes, versus the little guys.

The little guys just somehow. It's like I don't understand how leeches get to the places they get inside your ass crack. It's terrible. Yeah. It's terrible. I remember I was in Borneo, we were doing the Miller's Gris. of Languere episode. And I got back from hiking. We were hiking up and down the stream to set these trail cameras. I pulled my pant leg up. And I was the only one who hadn't tucked my pants into my

socks. Because you were on camera. Because I was on camera and it looks fucking really silly. It doesn't look cool. No, not cool at all. No helmets? I pulled my pant leg up and it was just a black ring around the top of my sock of little tiny leeches, like little like half inch leeches. And I was just like scratching them off like this. It bled all night. I worked up. I worked up. all night because, you know, they have anticoaginin their saliva. And it wasn't like bad or painful or anything. It was just gross. Pulled like 35 leeches off my, between my two legs.

All night long it bled because of the anticoagulant. I woke up, my sheets were soaked in blood. Jesus. Good Lord. It was like sticking everywhere. I just like, it would not stop bleeding. That's gross. There is just something about them too when you have a leech on you. It gives you the willies in a way that's different than a bug crawling across your head or anything like that.

It's just a vampire. It's a real animal. It's like a siling. Gross. And the way they move and they're feeding off you and the little tails moving. It is cool what they do with them for medicine. When I was in Istanbul, I was talking about the jar thing, that was where I saw that. And you walk through like the streets, the bazaars in Istanbul. I don't know if they still like this. So I was there in 2009.

Great city, by the way. That's my favorite city I've ever been to. Yeah. Like everyone should go visit. It's amazing. Agreed. Favorite city I've ever been to. But they had, in the bazaars, they had.

had these jars with not those Amazonian giant, but leeches like this big, swimming around like a dozen of them or so. And I assume they'd throw a goldfish in once in a while or something, but they were medicinal leeches. And so if you had like a hematoma or, you know, some kind of big thing, you just buy a leech and slurp it on and let it drain the blood from it, which, uh, yeah, which sounds like, uh, just like an old school way of doing things, but it's,

it actually works, right? Well, the bagot thing's very real. and they use that like, do you know about that? No. I've heard, yeah. Oh, so, Kyle, Google like medicinal maggots. So if you have an injury and it's going gangrenous, the only way. Oh, good.

Yeah. Kyle can't look. But this is really, I think this is amazing. All, we're done. Okay. Go to the foot. Go to the foot over there, Kyle. Make Patrick look at that.

Oh, yeah. He won't look. Looks clean. Cowell won't look. Nobody will look. We have a camera on Kyle, we don't. He looks real good after the maggots. But here's what's so cool about it.

Okay, we can take it off the screen. Maybe one more. Do you guys feel like spaghetti for lunch? Gross. Lentil. Here's what's so cool about the maggots. If you have a wound and it's gone gangrenous, right? So say you've been in the Amazon, you get an infection, it's gangreness and your flesh

is rotting. You take harmful antibiotics, which as we all know, like antibiotics is not good for your system overall, right? Sure. Maybe or maybe not it will cure it. Most of the time, if you're at the state of gangreness, it will not cure it because you have a blood infection, which is a whole different problem.

Humans can cut out the flesh, but you can never just get the rotten flesh. So say you have a hole in your leg, you have to cut out a much larger hole to get rid of the gangren. Or you can use maggots, which will only unequivocally touch rotting flesh and leave nothing but the fresh flesh behind. Wow.

So literally the best way, if you have a gangrenous wound, to have the least amount of damage to your body and the least amount of scar tissue is to use maggots. And all they do, they sterilize them. They clean them in labs. They breed them from flies and labs. And then they put them on these wounds.

And the maggots will only eat the rotting flesh. They will not touch your clean organic flesh. And so you don't have a big knife carving out a giant chunk being like, hope I got all the infection. Yeah. It literally cleans it out to the perfect level. That's crazy. It's pretty cool.

And there's nothing that we have developed in modern medicine that can do that as well as the maggots game. That's crazy. Yeah. So that picture that was up there, you could see that before and the after was completely clean of any. Yeah. It just looked like regular, nice, healthy tissue. Good red meat.

Yeah. Yeah, so leach is gross. Don't get them as a pet. Get maggots. Disgusting. Get maggots instead. What else you guys got in the news? That was a long dog leg from what's in the news.

Yeah, that was in the news. That's fresh. That was just a picture from yesterday. The moon was fresh. Huh? Yeah. The maggots were fresh. Wildcats.

Oh, yeah. going to be released potentially in England for the first time in 100 years. So a lot of people don't know this, but England, the United Kingdom, has a native species of cat, aka the wildcat, a beautiful, adorable. Kyle's going to pull up a picture here. Yeah, it's the cutest, it's the cutest thing on the planet, period. I mean, clearly that is the foundation. So first of all, I mean, England is sort of, you know, where all Western, the United Kingdom

is where all Western life sort of spread out from, right? We did that with cats and dogs. That's obviously the foundation of the modern house cat. Look at it. But yeah, you know, so it's up in Scotland. And wildlife trusts are working to reintroduce wildcats. You know, it's great. There's a lot of rewilding.

They haven't been there in the wild in like 500 years. Something like that. Yeah, 400 years. Since the 16th century. Right. Yeah. There's a lot of rewilding happening in the United Kingdom. I was reading another article not too long ago about potentially

reintroducing wolves in the United Kingdom, which haven't been there in a long time. They're going to do that up in Scotland, and they want to bring elk back and all, or maybe it's Scottish moose. I can't remember, but there's a lot of rewilding going on in the UK. It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's an island, so they did a good job wiping everything out there, right? So, yeah. Yeah, it feels like they're, like, with all of these things, they're using parts of Scotland as, like, the testing grounds. It's interesting. I was just looking into, you know, Grizzly bear stuff. Yeah.

And do you know there's only three states left in the U.S. that have grizzlies? No, I didn't. Montana, Wyoming. Idaho. Idaho. That's it. Interesting. They used to be in 16 states. Now they're in three.

So they're down to 2% of their range that they once had. But there's some people that want to read, because Colorado was the last state to fall. Yeah. In the 70s. And, you know, there are like some people that they're like yeah we should we have all these fucking beautiful

mountain ranges where they could live wouldn't we yeah you know should we reintroduce the grizzly and there's not there seems to be no interest on the state just because they're like ah it's like really densely populated and there's a lot of hikers that go up there but it to me it's like if you're going on a hike you've signed that mental waiver yeah like you signed the waiver like grizzly bears should be in colorado I don't understand why not just reintroduce a small population of them there. I mean, we've talked about this before. I think anywhere that humans have directly negatively influenced an animal's distribution, they should be put back if they can continue to survive there. Meaning like, yeah, I don't think we should be introducing, you know,

elk in downtown Los Angeles, because that's just a disaster. But, you know, to put bears back in the Rockies is a good idea, in my opinion. So some of the pushback in the UK with this wildcat thing, is, and I don't quite understand why this is a big point of pushback, but they, the reservation is that there are so many domestic cats and feral cats, but they don't want them to basically crossbreed and create. Hybridized. Yeah, hybridize. Yeah.

Which I don't get why that's a huge problem if they hybridize. Because, well, the problem is that it will ruin the, it will ruin the pure genetics of the wildcats. So if you release a bunch of wildcats and then three generations from now, all they've done is cross-breed with domestic cats instead of each other, you don't have any more wild cats. You have some feral, mutinal cat, which is not, you know, actually meant to be there. So it is a fair concern. You know, I think it should probably be done the way that the Tasmanian, our Tasmanian Devils has been done where they have like a small area and they introduce them and make sure everything

works and then spread it out and so on and so forth. Right. It's cool. It's nice to see, it's nice to see a Western country doing rewilding in a way with predators. Because you don't see that a lot. Right. Right. You see a lot of like, oh, we brought lions back to this area of Africa that they were exterminated.

It's like, well, yeah, of course. There's nobody living there. And it's a big wild area. And I get it. They were poached out. It's different from that to being like, okay, we're putting wolves back where Western people, you know, actually are living and learning to live side by side with them. Right.

I like that. I think that's great. It's cool. It makes you think of like what it would have been like to live 500 years ago, 600 years ago. Exactly. Where like your interactions. Like living in a city, you don't. there's no threat of interaction with wildlife.

No, none. Whatsoever. Yeah. The worst thing it's going to happen is a fucking peacock pecks your car when you park at the store in Santa Barbara. Which I still owe you for, apparently. Yeah. But no, that's cool.

I mean, I'd like to see these wild cats. You actually have some encounters with wildlife, though. Pretty frequently over by your... He doesn't live in a city, though. He lives in the suburbs. I mean, suburbs. Yeah. But, yeah, no, we...

I mean, the coyotes... It is actually... But I will say, it's one of the really nice things of... moving from West Hollywood, which is like city, city, right, to, you know, three miles over the canyon. Right. Yeah. But, yeah, it is fun to be in the garage and see a coyote run down the street or, you know,

just like raccoons and possums and shit. Just some mysterious creature in your tree with eyes that are glowing. It's like, yeah. Wasn't that the possum? Wild here. Yeah. I'm still waiting on my praying mantis egg sack to hatch. Oh, yeah.

Do you move it from the screen door? I haven't. Okay. That's fine. I was actually going to ask you. to come over and do it. I can do that. That's fine.

I kind of have the willies about it. How long does it take? I mean, is it viable right here? Once it gets warm. Yeah. The mom died. So the mom is, the praying mantis laid the eggs on my screen door.

Yeah. Yeah. She hung out there for a bit and then died. Did we talk about this on the pod or is that's just you texting me? I don't remember. It might have been the bonus pod, but we talked about. Okay.

The praying mantis on his screen. Yeah. She died. She's just slowly turning gray. Yeah. I've left her there because I figure maybe at the very least they could eat her. Yep. They should.

But I do kind of want it relocated because, I don't know. It's kind of Wednesday Adams-ish. Yeah, I mean, at some point it's going to get, you know, as soon as it warms up, they're going to have 200 praying manuses are going to hatch. You got a couple options here. Okay. Because your kid's really little, this is probably not the best option, but for like my kid, three, I would take like a butter knife and gently scrape it off the screen door.

Okay. And then put it in like a critter keeper with a bunch of leaves and stuff and wait for it to warm up and hatch and then go release the baby so my kid can see them hatch. Yep. That's an option. No, that is an option. That's kind of cool. And it's fun. You know, you get a little critter keeper, you know, make sure it's all sealed, but not air sealed, but like they're not going to explode in your living room. Right. Put some sticks in there and stuff. And, you know, a day after they hatch or two, go let them out in the woods somewhere. Okay. How many are in a sack? Is it really like

200 or is it 200? 200. 200 is like average. Crazy. But yeah, I mean, the life cycle of the praying manis is fucking, you know, they say, nature is metal. Oh, yeah. It is gnarly, man. Like, they live for a year.

It's all seasonal, right? So they don't hang out in the cold too much. They're born. The females make it to the time where they can mate. Did you read about the next part that happens? Like sometimes they'll, like, tear the head off and eat it of the male. Yep. But it's not any better for the female, because then they lay the egg sack and that's the end of their

life cycle. Oh, they die right after, huh? Pretty soon they're after once it gets cold. they die. Yeah, you don't see, I feel like I don't see that many praying. I've only seen like three or four in my entire life. It's weird that they have like 200, but I rarely see them. They're around. They're around. I mean, I, yeah. We had a neighborhood bully grown up. And I was like cool with them because I could read and he couldn't. And so I would like read comic books to him and shit. Wow, that is. So I was safe. Movie premise. But I like walked over. I saw him doing something in his

driveway. A few houses down. I walked down. He's, He's got a fucking praying manis in a pair of tweezers. We're probably 12. Yeah. And a pair of tweezers and he's lighting its head on it. I hate that shit. And like, you're fucking 12 at that point. Yeah.

Like, this is who you are. Right. Like, you're going to fucking cut the heads off of a woman. Yeah, you're going to grow up to be that guy. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. He's still in my hometown.

Yeah. He works at the nuclear plant. I have a really. He works where? At the nuclear plant. Oh, my fucking Homer Simpson. Yeah. I've got a really, like, vivid, terrible memory.

of when I was pretty young. I want to say I was like seven or eight. There was a frog caught in this like little thing. I don't know what it was. But it was trying to get out and I was with some of the older kids. Oh, frog trap? No, it was like a thing. I don't know if it was like an electrical junction box or something.

Okay. But he was in there and I still to this day it pops in my head and I just feel horrible about it. But the bigger kids were like poking it with a stick and like pushing it down. And like I hated it. but I stayed there because I wanted to like fit in with the bigger kids. Right. And to this day, like I beat myself up.

Like I should have fucking saved that frog. You know what? You know what? And look, there's not enough wildlife left for us to learn this way. But you learned about yourself that day, the same as Patrick Day, which is that you're not going to be that person. And I think that that's important. I mean, I think every kid listening to this, you know, every person listening to this

probably had a similar experience as a kid. point. And I think it's cool because you actually, sometimes it takes that experience if you're not raised with a parent teaching you like the morality of right and wrong with animals and torture and blah, blah, blah. Sometimes it takes that experience for you to go, okay, I did that thing. I tortured that frog or I saw that praying man to get ripped to shreds or whatever. I never want to be that person. Do you know what I mean? And I feel like it has to, like it sort of has to happen for you to know it. Like it's not something that just, you just sort of know. Yeah, you learn it. You've got it.

You learn it. Dude, like, just trying to teach my 20-month-old to be gentle with the cat. Exactly. It's, like, not the nature of a 20-month-old human to, like, gently interact. It's to rip its fucking tail off. I am not looking forward to that face.

Yeah, good luck. But it's funny, I'm like, you're so sweet, but you want to fucking, you want to use your hands to eviscerate that cat into shreds. Eviscerate and eat, by the way. Just put in mouth. Yeah. All right.

So, podcast 107. always said this was going to be like a special one. Always, yeah. Day one, I was like, hey, when we get to 107. Yeah. I think we should go back to the old school classic, classic games. Better Royale. Yes, that's what I was thinking.

Yes. Yes. That's good. What? All right, I got it. You're talking about the maggots using them for gangrenous wounds and leeches for bloodletting in Istanbul. Indeed.

I have an idea here. Okay. All right. You're in the, we all go in the field to shoot a pilot for the Wild Times adventure show. Yep. Love it. You are tasked with, we've set up a base camp in a very, very remote area. Okay.

We forgot to bring a medic. Oh, God. So each of us has been tasked with setting up like the medical triage station. Okay. You're going to, you're like the field doctor. Got it. You get to pick three. animals.

Okay. To help you out. It could be for medicinal purposes. Yep. Could be for just an assistant. Yep. I'm going to take off the table any primate. Fair.

Oh, mine, we're going to be primates. Yeah. Yeah, that's terrible. I saw that look in your eye. Gorilla, orangutan. And a rhesus monkey. Yeah. So no monkeys of any kind.

You need three creatures to help you have the most robust because a lot of people are getting hurt on this shoe. Of course. It's us. It's going to be, it's basically just getting really, really drunk and then interacting with animals. So it's going to be a lot of bites and scratches. So it's Andrew Euckel's show. Yes, exactly. All right. Peter, you go first. Snake drive. Okay. All right. Well, I mean, this is definitely going to put on display by Google. Lack of animal knowledge. If I can't Google, you're certainly not Googling. Fair, fair, fair. I'm going to have to go and I know everybody's going to hate it because I

always use him, but I love him. I'm going to go with an octopus because he's smart. And he can put his tentacles outside of the water and give me extra hands. I was going to say, because if you're doing a surgery, eight arms is a lot of arms to help you. It's like three nurses. He could hold four tools. Four nurses. No problem.

Yeah, exactly. I think he might be able to hold up to eight. Might even. Yeah. He's got suction cups on each arm. It's actually your only good pick of octopus so far. Yes. In 107 episodes.

Fair enough. All right, Forrest, you're up next. Put you in the middle. Going this way, huh? Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's called Clarkwise.

All right, easy pick out of the gate for me. I'm going to pick, there's, there's, uh, Kyle's going to have to look this up because I wasn't allowed to Google. There's a beetle that excretes like the stickiest substance on earth. Okay. I forget what it's called. Um, you know, stickiest organic substance on earth. Dung beetle. Any suture, right?

Anybody's getting a cut. Anybody's getting a scrape. That's what we're using. We're putting that, uh, what was it? powder post beetle? Yeah, that might be it. Powder post beetle. We're getting powder post beetle on my team.

We use that as a quick suitor. We're putting his butt slime in your wound, gluing it back together. It's the super glue of animals. I think that's brilliant. Thank you. I think that's absolutely brilliant. I want to, since Peter picked octopus,

I'm also going to pick something I've picked a lot. Okay. But for a different reason. Okay. I'm worried that in the field, I'm not going to have access to, like, a strong source of water. Sure.

And, you know, I mean, a lot of times people get stuff in their eyes. I don't think I'm going to have a very good eye wash station. That's probably true. Right. Okay. And, you know, if someone gets something in their eye, that can get bad. And I want to have a good eye wash station. So I'm going to start with an, I'm going to have a tank with an angler fish in it.

Okay. Not an angler fish. Yeah, angler fish. Okay. What's the one that shoots out the thing really? Archer fish. Archer fish. Archer fish.

They're extremely accurate with shooting. a little spout of water. They are. And it's going to sort of serve. So what they do is they shoot this little spout of water up to knock insects and things off of the leaf into the water so they can eat it. So you get something in your eye. You go stand over the Archer Fish Tank, Emergency Eye Wash Station.

Okay. Yeah. Oh, I go for two. No, I go for two. Oh, it's you for two. I forgot how these work. Yes. That's my job.

It's been a while. Yeah. All right. Second, a little golden retriever puppy. That was my next pick, I swear to God. Really? Emotional support, correct? Exactly.

Yeah. God damn it. That was my next pick. I almost went first because I was like, I want to take that off the table. And I was like, I got the little golden retriever puppy. The bottom line is I have no medical training of any kind. Right. I'm not very calm under pressure.

Right. True. So it's not going to be a very good situation for you if you have a bad injury. True. But there's a puppy. The least I could do is have great bedside. Manor, put the little puppy in your lap, you cuddle with it, it makes you feel good.

That was, I swear to God, that exact reason was my next pick. That's good pick. That's why. That's why. All right. Great pick. So my next pick, so we've got our, we've got our suture. Okay, there's an issue.

Next pick, funnel web spider. Ah. Okay. That's fucking. Is that where you're going? You're going spider for sure. Yeah. And the reason is obvious.

They're going to make you natural bandages. Exactly. Right. Anything goes wrong. Granted, the funnel web is a design. of an animal, but, you know, they weave an incredibly powerful, well-shaped web, broken arm, no problem. Just going to cast that right in funnel web spider.

Smart. That's good use. Yeah, I mean, it's good, but I hope your next pick is something that handles something other than open wounds, because there are other things broken bones. This is for a break or a spring. Okay. I'm going with... It's a good.

It's a nice bandage. I'm up for two. It's an ace bandage. All right. I'm going to go with... since you took my spider, an elephant, that's right, because A, they're very intelligent, very smart, B, my elephant's going to have a Ph.D. in some form of medical care. And D, they have, it's another hand with a trunks.

They're very compassionate. They have a lot of empathy. And, again, and it's a good, you know, therapy pet to have as well. There were, like, so many better things you could have said. You could be like, it's great for transportation. They're strong. they can move stuff, they can go and get stuff. Well, I mean, all of those things are there as well.

It just would have been added benefit. Sure. Okay, so elephant. So I have an elephant. And then my next one is going to be, gosh, I just don't know. I think I'm going to have to go with, I'm going to go with that river dolphin because it's smart. It can just, it can communicate very well with squeaks and echoes. And, you know.

So wait, what were your three? We got elephant, river dolphin, and octopus. Yeah. Okay. So you're walking into Peter's tent going, well, I'm fucked. Yeah. No, they're all very friendly. They all have no room for me.

There's no room for me. Gigantic creatures. They all you could stand under the elephant. Wait, did you think we said we were opening a circus? Yeah, I think that's what you thought about. Fair enough. I mean, how are you going to run that? My third one is a stretch, but I'm going to go for it.

Okay. Okay. My third one is a hive of bees. Okay. And here's why. We're out in a remote location. We're in the jungle. I'm assuming this is a North American jungle.

And what they've shown is that the venom in bee stings is very similar to rattlesnake venom in super low quantities. And it's twofold. There's a reason we're going with bees. One is we'll start microdosing bee stings on all of us to build up our tolerance to snake bite venom. Got it. And two, it's also allegedly. a cure for arthritis pain.

And as I know, Peter is undeniably going to have terrible arthritis when he's old from all his time in front of his computer. I'm just assuming that it might kick in while we're out there and I've got a hive of bees to sting his joints in case seven issues. Yeah. The best defense is just being prepared. That's right. You know, so yeah, microdosing bee venom.

I think that's smart. I mean, it's definitely pretty good, pretty good. It's something. Yeah. Because of my lack of medical training, if someone comes in with a break, you know, broken bone of some sort. Yeah.

I'm just going to amputate it. Sure. Because I don't really know how to treat it, and I think it's going to be best to just get rid of it. Just immediately get rid of the limb. Okay. So I'm going to need some help. Yeah.

I need it out of there. So I want something that can help me with that. And I'm not going to go with a crocodile. And I don't want a spiral fracture on top of it. Sure. That's going to add injury to injury. So I'm just going to have a really, really well-trained hippo. Oh, wow.

They're going to say like a sawfish or something. No. Third strongest bite force in the animal kingdom. They're just going to... I'll stick your limb in up to the point where I wanted amputated. Just a clean guillotine critter. I'll give them the word. Choms down and then we'll suture it up.

Sure, good idea. Because I can learn how to suture. Yeah, yeah. I've sewed before. I think you're on to something there. This is anybody that's coming into any of these tents is going to have a really bad time. Not with my puppy.

You're talking about being prepared for things. I mean, it's... tough. We did not come prepared for this, for this journey. We're doing what we can with what we got. That's true. When you're at the airport and you're departing for the jungle and your set medic is bellied up to the bar talking to the young lady next to him. You know he's not getting on the flight. He's not getting on the flight. Yeah. That is true. All right, well, let us know in the comments whose medical tent you would feel the most comfortable at. Or what your best three medical animals are. Either one. I'd be curious. Yeah. I would definitely be curious. Yeah. There's probably better ones

than what we came up with. Definitely. Definitely. The brosters have the power of Google. I know. So my bar for their answers is a little higher. Well, because they're cheaters. You're all cheaters. You try to cheat.

I tried to cheat because I've already forgotten the name of the beetle again. I barely even knew the names of three animals. That's true. It was tough for me. Well, that's why what's his name hates you. That's right. Charles. No, I don't, don't worry.

I don't forget. I shed a tear every three hours. Should we open a beer now? It's like nearly 10-8. I think so. Absolutely. Yeah. What do you got?

We got some fat tires? Yeah, let's have a beer. All right. Kyle. Kyle, you need a beer? Crack me open, mate. Yeah. Does it cut?

I thought that was sort of the end. Oh, I didn't know if this was on air or not. Cheers. Well, now we have to cut. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's enough. Now we have to cut.

We're going to drink now. Yes. Yeah. For the rest of the day. Okay. Oh, sign off. Yeah, sign off. Sorry.

What a good way to end the pot. Just give me the bottle of. Thank you. All right, guys, well, that was fun. So happy you're here. What? Why are you being such a jerk, Pat? I despise you.

It's a character I play. Smug. It's a character I play. Yeah, what? Hips or douchebags? All right. No, I just like the segue. Well, that was fun.

Yeah. Well, I mean, because it wasn't. My picks were horrible. I certainly lost. But if you like my picks, drop a comment. Check out the website where you can find all of the everything that we do at wild times. Dot club forward slash info.

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All right. Happy Monday. You just came close to needing some suitor. I saw that. If you hadn't said something, you would have got me. It got me earlier when I got here. All right.