Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Extinct or Alive Behind the Scenes Part 2, Surfer's Wife Saved From Shark, & The Michigan Can Scam

Episode Date: August 25, 2020

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Roll in. All right. Three, two, one. Ow! Ow! Baby, we are back. Episode number 21 of the wild times. Yes.

Wild times. Dude, it's so funny, man. Like, you know, it's just the nature of being a stupid-ass fucking human. Like, just you think about a scam or a scheme, and you're just like, dude, we could do this. And Booz always fuels this shit, dude. It's like, what's up, guys? Oh, yeah. Hello. Jelen, what's up, Forrest?

So, yeah, for those that don't know that are joining us for the first time, 21 episodes in, you're late. What are you doing? Come on now. But if you don't know us, I am one of your three hosts, Mr. Forrest Galante, the broologist. I'm joined tonight by Mr. Peter Fitzer, the Brofessor. And of course, the always shirtless, Patrick DeLuca, the Broducer. What's up, gents? Ow, ow!

I just keep doing it because you have no shirt on me. Right into it tonight. It's hot as shit in here and I turned the AC off so I'm not getting a hum. Both of your backgrounds are different than I've ever seen. Where the fuck are you guys? What's going on? Where are you, Peter? Me?

I'm in Reseda, California from the Tom Petty song. Right now. I swear I got my shit set up now. There you go. And that's why it's different for me. What about you, Forrest? I'm in Bozeman, Montana, baby. What's up with Bose?

Yeah, you know, I haven't taken a true vacation in probably five or six years that hasn't been work related in some way or another. And after a little COVID stint of being locked at home, I jumped in my truck, fly fished my way through Utah and made it to Montana this afternoon. What parts of where did you stop in Utah, man? I was just there. It's way prettier than I thought it was. Well, we, so we went through Utah and then into Idaho. And honestly, I didn't fish a whole lot in Utah, but came, you know, up from Vegas into, shoot, what was the name of that first town? Crap.

I literally don't even remember. Kind of up in the mountains, though. Oh, yeah, beautiful valleys, rock formations, absolutely stunning. Drove through that for quite a while and then started to slow down in Idaho. And then around like the Twin Falls area of Idaho is where I started fishing. and it's just been awesome. It's just beautiful up here. You look good out there. I like that you caught that fish and then you released it. Made me feel good.

Thanks, Peter. Thank you. I caught and released many and I caught in eight, too, and it was a treat. Nice. So are you actually like a competent fly fisherman? Oh, I love fly fishing. That was like my first love of fishing. Before I got into spear fishing or deep sea fishing or anything, it was all about fly fishing. So I'm, you know, there's certainly a lot of guys a lot better than me, but I enjoy it a lot. That's for sure. It's very, like, meditative. Out of all the ways that you fish, which one is the hardest would you say?

Is it fly fishing? Like you said spear fishing and all the other ways? You know, I've never been noodling, but I imagine that's the part of sticking your hand in a catfish hole and letting it latch on to you and pulling it. Yeah, I heard that fly fishing's really relaxing. Like a buddy of mine, I was just talking. to and he was going and he's not an outdoorsman whatsoever and he said he recently got into it and it's like really like helping him with like anxiety and shit like he loves it interesting yeah i mean for me it's like you know yesterday i'm in idaho i i pull up i have this app called onyx and if

anybody's into the outdoors and you're looking for cool spots you got to get this app and i pull up this app called onx and i'm like where there's some like cool creeks and off road trails from here find just a random one somewhere like 30 miles outside of Twin Falls, Idaho, jump on a dirt track, drive for an hour, pull over, you know, off this dirt road, literally weighed out in my board shorts and there's trout, you know, like popping on the surface and you just cast and you walk down the river and it's beautiful and the sun setting, it's 75 degrees out. It's just, you know, I like, you lose track of time. You're like, I'll fish for an hour and then six hours go by and You're like, wow, that was a perfect day.

Nice. Well, look, I think the Brosner's want us to get into this fantastic story that came across all of our desks independently this week from our various sources. I like this for us because, you know, you are a sharkman through and through. Indeed. You are a sharky mermaid, if you will. I will. I will. Merman.

I saw that a man punched. great white shark in the face repeatedly getting it to let go of his wife's leg. It was a couple surfing in Australia. A 10-foot white shark pulled his wife off her board and underwater. Let's stop there. Before we get to the punches, what's going on there? Why is the shark pulling someone off their board? So first of all, you know, there's a couple things that happen when a great white shark makes

an attack. If you ever look up at a person sitting on a surfboard from underwater, what it looks like is a seal and their little flippers are dangling off the sides of the surfboard. And what happened here is a shark came up, took a little nibble ski to do an investigative bite because it thought something was wrong, grabbed onto a fleshy appendage, an arm, or sorry, a leg in this case, and pulled the woman down and thought, hmm, this is actually something I can eat. This sounds good. So I thought it was a tasty treat.

It wasn't like, I'm going to go human hunting today. That's what I'm feeling a bit peckish. I'm in the mood for some man. Indeed. Okay. So it grabs her by the leg, pulls her off. Yep. Obviously, this guy really likes his wife because he swims over to it, starts blasting it in the face.

Is that the right thing to do? It's funny because it kind of is. And I'm sure it's just instinct that makes someone do that. It really kind of is the right thing to do. And the reason being, you know, look, if you're witnessing a shark attack and you're like this guy and you're going to do anything to stop it from taking place, there's two places, three places, I guess, that you want to try and affect the shark. One is its eyes. The second is its gills. And the third, as this guy did, is its nose.

And the reason its nose is a pressure point at which the animal would let go is the nose is filled with gel-filled sacks called the ampule of Lorenzini. sacks are stimulated anytime that any kind of thing touches those gel-filled sacs. So if you punch it in the nose, it's super overwhelming. And so I think, you know, to the average person, you'd be like, oh, I punched a shark in the face. I kicked its ass. This isn't like Rocky Balboa getting hit in the face. You know what I mean?

It's not like, oh, fuck this and like let it go. It's like, wow, it is having a sensory overload and it cannot physically continue doing what it's doing because of that sensory overload. and so it has to let go of the person that it's attacking. Nice. So it just scurries away then. And it doesn't get stund or does it just run away? Well, here's the thing.

I think if this- It doesn't scurry away. It doesn't scurry. There's no scurry. Sharks can scurry. I think in this situation, if, you know, that shark were truly trying to like eat the woman, if it were going nuts as far as like a feeding,

it wouldn't have come up, had a nibble and pulled her down, right? it would have breached. It would have come up and hammered her at speed. And it didn't. So this was more like an investigative bite. So when the guy came over and punched it, that animal was already on kind of on the cautionary track of being like, what is this thing that looks weird that I'm going to go and taste?

And I was like, oh, okay, this is something I can eat. I'm going to pull down. And then it's getting punched in the face. So it's probably like, you know what, this is no good. This doesn't taste like seal. It doesn't taste like sea turtle. Something's wrong here. Now I'm getting punched in the face.

sensory overload. I'm out of here. I'm out. Dude, what a stud, man. Like, that guy, you know, he's going to get a lot of BJs. Speaking of BJ's guys, I've been getting a lot more fanfare on Instagram. I don't know what happened. Numbers are up and a lot more people are

following, but PJ Hollahan. That's close to BJ. It's different, but sure. He said, I was told if I message you guys would answer. So I come in need of sage advice. You got, you ready for this? you love giving sage advice for us. I think he wants advice from me, but sure.

Go ahead. Please continue. This girl I've been hooking up with really loves Malayan tapirs. Tapirs, but please continue. Do any of you guys have any fun tapir facts or stories that will make this girl want to have sex with me more? Thank you. Wow. How many different ways are you going to pronounce that animal's name wrong?

Tapir, a topper. The peer. Give this guy some tapir facts. for us. He needs to get laid in a BJ too. It's weird because I was like really excited to drop a bunch of facts until it was about getting this guy laid. And then I was like, do I contribute or do I pull back at this point? Nah, you got to get this guy laid, man. It sounds like he's never been laid ever. What's his name? Let's let's remind everybody of his name.

PJ Hollahan. I was just kidding. I'm sure you've been laid many, many times, PJ. Okay. Let's see. What cool facts do I have? Well, the Malayan tapir as a baby looks a bit like a pig zebra. Imagine a pig with stripes of a zebra, as you yanks say, or a zebra, as I say. Very stripy and very beautiful. And as it becomes an adult, it gets the coloration of a panda bear. So a lot of people see images of juvenile Malayan tapirs and go, what kind of animal is that? Or an adult and go, what kind of animal is that?

And it's the very same animal that just changes coloration as they grow. So there's a fun fact for you. There we go. Garrett, that's going to work. That's going to work. Definitely. Didn't mean to interrupt the news with fanfare, but there's so much. I feel like I need to start sprinkling it in.

No, this is good. I mean, you know, we're here to get you laid. If you're a bristner, is that what we're calling them? That's why we started the podcast. Oh, a brault, as in bro cult, came across my desk the other day. The world. Came across her brand new desk. That's nice.

Yeah. I like the already got a staff up and running at the new spot. Yeah. Speaking of new spots, when are we getting the studio going? Are we just going to all move into Peter's girlfriend's place or what are we thinking? I'm sure she'd be down. Yeah. Oh, she'd be down.

Oh, fuck you. Speaking of getting laid, Forrest, like, pipe down. Put your pants back on me. I will not. So, Forrest, I know that, you know, you've had a mobile desk this. week, but you were, you were awfully excited about this, this news coming out of Japan. Oh, yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's my favorite piece of news that I've seen in the wildlife world, probably in the last 21 weeks.

Nice. Doing this podcast. Let's have it. Here is the title. A study in Japan showed that a certain species of water beetle evolved so that when eaten by a pond frog, they're able to survive by climbing out through the frog's rectum. It can take up to two hours, but 93% of the Beatles were able to escape with no harm done, which I think is absolutely insane.

Imagine just getting gobbled up by something and taking a little journey through the old frog gut and just escaping out the back door. Like, what a play. No, it's terrible. It's got to be distressing to say the least. So do you think it develops some sort of like coding on its, exoskeleton that keeps it from getting digested or what do you think's going on there? I think that's exactly it. I think it's got this hardened exoskeleton. You know, the thing about the

pawn frogs is they have, like all frogs, they have relatively large intestines for their body size. And I think this, this beetle just knows to kind of bear down and go through, you know, travel through the esophagus into the stomach, into the small intestines, into the large intestines. And out we go. And it's a It's quite a journey Man Do you think that Beetle goes back

To like his other Bro Beatles And is like Yo did it Went on the journey Have you tried it? Yeah It's like losing

Your virginity in high school Yeah Yeah it's a right of passage To get through Only 93% make it 7% Dunzo Slowly get digested

And shit out Brutonzo Yep I think it's hilarious I really do Did you see This story about the death stalker scorpion?

Oh, yeah. So the reason that I highlighted that in our show doc is because I, so this came out like, I don't know, I would say for the first time, maybe two years ago, right? And they were like, oh, the scorpion venom is the most expensive liquid in the world. It cost $39 million per gallon. And when this happened, when this dropped, there was this mad rush of people trying to figure out how to get the scorpion venom, right? Including three of my friends.

And this is, to me, the most funny part of this is including my three friends that approach me about trying to get these scorpions. Nobody figured out what you do with the scorpion venom, right? So the reason that it's worth $39 million per gallon is because of how impossible it is to get it. But where do you sell it? You can't sell score. Nobody's buying it. You know what I mean? So the value placed on it is like anecdotal.

It means nothing. So wait, but it says that they use it for medical research, but who's they and what are they doing with it? Exactly. That's the whole question, right? And this actually turned into, and you can look this up, they're turned into all these scorpion farms were popping up all of a sudden to try and breed these things to try and milk them. But nobody wants to buy it. Like nobody's buying a gallon of the scorpion venom. You know, they, in the facilities, the medical facilities where they're trying to produce medicine out of this venom,

They're just milking them themselves and using it. Right. They're rolled up with a gallon, a growler of scorpion venom. They'd be like, dude, we need like a teaspoon forever. Exactly. So it's just like, it's just nonsense. Dude, it's so funny, man. Like, you know, it's just the nature of being a stupid ass fucking human.

Like just you think about a scam or a scheme and you're just like, dude, we could do this. And Booz always fuels this shit, dude. Oh, yeah. I remember my buddy, Las got his driver's license when we were in high school. He was a, for whatever reason, the way he just got his license like a year before everyone else did. And we saw the Seinfeld episode where Kramer tries to do the Michigan can scam. Great. Yeah.

Are you aware of this for us? No, I'm not. All right. Looking forward to hearing about it. So you take an aluminum can for a soda bottle, a beer, whatever. You get five cents when you return the cans in the state. that have that program, New York, where I grew up is one of them. Okay. You get 10 cents

in Michigan. Okay. So you pay a 10 cent deposit per can or bottle in Michigan. So the idea is that if you return up, you take enough cans from New York to Michigan and return them, you're doubling. You're getting 10 cents a can. Right. Right. So we did the math. We realized if we took the seats out of his minivan, which he was rolling with at the time, filled it to the brim, paid for gas

and just drove straight through, returned the cans. We could make like 240 bucks each. And did you go for it? Fuck yes, dude. No way. Yeah, we did the Michigan cans game. It was fantastic. We went to...

You did it before Seinfeld did it even, yeah? No, it was after. We stole the idea. But we went over this one guy's house in our neighborhood, and his mom was apparently an alcoholic. And she had never... Their entire basement was floor-to-ceiling cans. Oh, boy.

So we just, we had one stop, filled it with cans. drove the 14 hours to Michigan, returned them, came back. $200 bucks richer. Well, so $200 bucks richer, is that including the cost of gas and everything? Yeah, once we pulled the cost of gas out, we each made a couple hundred bucks. Okay. If you amortize that over the cost of the trip, that's about $7 an hour each that we made for it. That's huge.

That's huge. So not great. Not great. That's all right. When you're 16, I mean, you could buy a lot of, what did you buy with it, man? Anything, just save it, put it in the stock market. market. No, I'm sure.

Just booze and, you know, McDonald's or something. Mountain Dew and Taco Bell. Yeah, exactly. So, Forrest, what's up with this road trip? Is the plan just kind of drive and see where the road takes you? Yeah, man. So I got into Montana this evening, set up here in the hotel room, you know, just to record with you, find gents. But after today, for the next week, I will be living out the back of the truck.

I'm getting a camper put on with a pop-up tent for my buddies at GoFy. campers and I'm going to just yeah I'm just going to sleep in the tent on top of the truck and try and stay off anything pavement and just fish and cruise and you know just kind of live live off road like our state's on fire I don't need to be there you know air quality is terrible it's nice out here dude there's 500 wildfires raging in just the state of california right now and it's not even fire season yet technically doesn't it normally start in like october so it's like historically early and then ferocious, man. Oh, it's a disaster.

Yeah, it is a disaster. Like, you think at some point that entire state would basically burn down, and then they'd be like, okay, we're good for the next 60 years. Like, this isn't going to happen anymore. Like, we've been leveled by fire. Everything's nice now. But it just seems to get worse year after year. Well, put your, imagine this, right?

So for listeners who aren't in California, they probably are annoyed by this, but it's a fucking problem every year. There's just tons of wildfires in California. We have a fire season. It's too dry. It's just a mess. So last year, I didn't realize this dude. But last year in the like high fire areas, which Malibu is one of them.

So Malibu's this all true. You've heard of it. Super fancy beach. There's all these mansions like I'm talking like 60 million dollar mansions. All of the insurance companies said what we no longer, we will not insure you starting next year. right? So everyone freaked out and the state can't really mandate that you insure a $60 million mansion. So you've got all these like, you know, multi, multi-million dollar mansions that basically what the compromise was that the insurance companies had to insure up to $1.5 million of the house

for fire. Right. So you've got $60 million mansions that are only, if it burns to the ground, they're going to get $1.5 million. So you can't even buy a, like, why would you, Why would you fucking live there at this point? Well, Malibu was one of the spots that got hit the hardest. What was that? Last year, the year before, they had to evacuate. Yeah. It was like ridiculous.

They had to evacuate everybody, and it took them like a year to recover. And that, so that, the fire last year, oh, no, I guess it's two years, three years ago now. The Thomas fire, which is the one that I got stuck in. Yeah, nearly hit my house. And we had the mudslides and got trapped for 10 days of no power, blah, blah, blah. During that fire, that was the last. largest fire that the state of California had ever seen, this year, six fires are bigger than it, this year alone.

Holy shit, dude. So that goes to show you the scale of the fires this year and how bad they are, right? Like when the Thomas fire broke out a couple years ago, it was like, wow, this is the largest fire we've ever seen. To date, six fires right now raging as we record this podcast are larger than the Thomas fire, the largest estate had ever seen two years ago. And these fires, they, so some of them start naturally, but literally. there are arsonists. There's an arsonist

that started one of the huge ones this year. I'm like, what would compel somebody to fucking do something like that, man? Well, the thing with that guy, too, and not to get political or anything, it's just this is the truth. He's a crazy person that

they know was an arsonist because he'd started fires before. He'd been in the penal system, but he just kind of floated through, and he started this fire that's like just fucking catastrophic, burning hundreds of thousands

and millions of acres. Now he's going to jail for life. Probably doesn't care. This is his fucking defining moment. He's probably stoked, man. I didn't know that this was like a person that we knew of that had been arrested. What does, is there a reason behind this?

Do we know anything about this? Probably mad at his neighbors. No, it was just a crazy person who had started some fires before and had been arrested and then they just kind of drove him down the block and dropped him off somewhere else. I don't know how. they know that he started one of the big ones that's pretty close to L.A.

Here's one of the things about these fires that I think a lot of people don't understand, that I think is worth bringing up. Speaking from a biologist standpoint, so fire in California is a good thing and it is a necessity, right? We live in a sagebrush desert for the most part that should burn periodically. It should burn every 10, 20, 30 years to put nutrients back into the ground to help the ecosystem continue to be fertile, right? But what we have done is we being human beings, we've taken over California, right?

And in doing that, what we've done is said, no fires, right? We want our beautiful $60 million mansions in Malibu. So no fires, no fires. So what we do is we knock back the fires. And we go, no fires this year and no fires next year. And we make all this fire prevention take place so that all the undergrowth stacks up over 30, 40, 50 years. And then when a fire does break out, and this is that we're seeing this right now. We saw it with the Thomas fire and it's worse now.

when a fire does happen, there's so much back buildup of undergrowth that the fire rages at such a hot temperature that it doesn't do any good and it's uncontrollable. You can't any longer put it out. And additionally to that, it's raging at such a hot temperature that it's scorching the earth and killing everything instead of re-fertilizing it, including, as we're seeing in Northern California currently, killing like 200, 300-year-old redwood trees that have natural built-in fire resistance because they should be burning every 10 or 20 years with a small fire that should sweep through there and then put itself out. So we are the, we are actually the

problem. The fires are not the problem. The fires are natural. They should be happening, but they should be happening frequently and at a lower temperature to be good for the ecosystem. And what we have done is make them happen infrequently at a much higher burn rate that causes way more destruction, which is terrible. And to add another element to this, which I think is really fascinating. If you look at ancient cultures, even in the state of California, they do control burns because they knew this was the case. Only we as modern civilization are like, no, no, no, no, no controlled burns. Like, we're not going to let stuff burn. We're just going to let it all stockpile so that when something burns, it's a fucking disaster. And then, you know, look at what

we're facing currently. So it's, uh, it's quite something. Well, one possible solution has to do with the wild, wild time stuff. Goats. Goats. Yep. Goats are pretty good. Yeah. And grazers in general, right? If we had more deer, more wild goats, which we should have in the state of California, by the way, not the kind that we're all thinking of, but, you know, wild sheep and goats, we would have less brush buildup and better fire management. So I have a friend who lives in Palos Verdes, which is a suburb south of L.A. And it's a lot of like mountaine sort of terrain. And you get a lot of, you get a lot of, This dude has a slope on his property that gets just a ton of this sagebrush fall, whatever. And he pays like two or three times a year, pays a service. They come in. They bring 10 or 15 or 20 goats.

And the goats just eat the shit. And then the guy packs up his goats and leaves. Yep. And that's how he keeps his hillside clear. New business idea. Let's get into ghosts. That's starting. Dude, I mean, not only that, but this fucking baby goat yoga shit that's just taken off.

It's huge. Dude, it's... Baby yoga? What? Are you kidding me? You must have seen this. There's no way you haven't seen this. Of course not.

I saw, okay, so like two years ago I saw a friend of mine. She posted on Instagram that she had gone to this yoga class where, while you're doing yoga, baby goats just climb around on you. And they're the cutest thing in the world. And, you know, they just climb around on you. And now it's like, I was like, God, that's such an L.A. Like, oh, my God. Yeah. It is everywhere, dude.

Like, you could be in like Aswego, New York where I'm from. They probably have baby goat yoga. Maybe goat yoga I'd be into, I think. I'd do it. They're just hoofing around on you? What do they do? Dude, and then once they're fully grown, you have them eat people's sagebrush, I'm going to buy a few goats tonight.

Maybe that's the business plan. Maybe, you know, I think these two companies are not getting together. And then when they've served their purpose as fire cleanup, they end up in a nice Mexican restaurant as stew. Oh, you son of a bitch. Releases the fish, kills the goats when they're old. What about goat milk, huh? That's true.

There you go. There you go. Boat milk is good. When Forrest and I have traveled in Africa, a fair bit of goat there, I know they eat goat in South America and some other places, but it's a pretty abundant meat. You always go for the goat forest. You're a big fan of goat. I love it.

Yeah, no, the good memory. No, I absolutely love the flavor of goat meat. And I actually saw a statistic a few months ago that said goat is actually the most consumed meat in the world, which I found really interesting. Really? No shit. It has been for many years, yeah. Yeah. It's delicious.

It's got this kind of gamey taste. It's got a good consistency. I always, if I, as you've noticed, Patrick, if we are traveling and goat is on the menu, I will always go for it 100%. I always go for the Zibu, my friend. Wait, so, Pat, have you ever had goat? You into that as a meal? I did the goat once or twice when we were in Africa. You know, we actually have always eaten pretty well when we're there.

Yeah. Yeah. And then I just discovered that the Zibu is just so much better. I just like it so much more. What's Azebu? So A Zibu is, it's a Malagasy humped cattle. So imagine kind of like a camel crossed with a cow. And these are these incredible fatty cows that walk around,

Madagascar causing all kinds of damage, and they really are good. And as Patrick and I have found out a couple different times, you can get Zibu meat like on a skewer on the side of the road. You can get steaks. It's really good beef that you get in Madagascar. They're super crazy looking too. Like the hump doesn't, like a camel's hump makes sense. It's roundish. The Zibu hump almost looks like an elephant seal's face.

Can you get this like in the U.S.? Or would that be classified as something super exotic? You'd have to, like, look hard. I mean, I've never seen it. I've never seen it either. Like, you know, I've been to a couple of those. There's a restaurant, actually, in Malibu that serves wild game around Christmas time, go there and get an elk steak. But I've never, I've never seen Zibu on a menu outside of Africa.

That could be delicious, really good. There's a business plan for you, being the Zibu guy in America. Dude, let's get out of the TV business for us. Seriously? Zibu, dude. Coats and Zibu. What's the most exotic thing you've eaten, Forrest, and Pat, but mostly Forrest because I know you've been to some red, I know you, I just know you've eaten some crazy ass shit. Oh man, I don't even like, I don't even know. I mean, I've eaten a lot of, like piranha, a lot of frogs. Frogs really taste like chicken, like they say. They do. Yeah,

they do. It's just kind of a stringy white meat, but I think the grossest one, or at least the hardest one for me to get through is eating rat. Oh, yeah. You ate a rat? It's, it's yucky. I've eaten rat a few times. So in Africa, we have this rat called Nembeva, which is like, it's really more like a mall than a rat. So just, you know, imagine a rat that's more disgusting.

And I went to this tribal council thing once where I was trying to get some information. And they brought out this whole roasted like hair still on it, brown rat. And if I had turned it down, it would have been, you know, very insulting. So I took my little piece and with my sazzo, which is like ground cornmeal and put it in my mouth and, you know, smiled and grin like it was so good. And honestly, I don't even remember what it tasted like because I was so in my own head about eating it that I was like, oh, God, oh God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. That's, that's swallowed it down. I wasn't even trying to be funny.

You described the whole rat coming out and I believe the noise that came out of me was fief. Yeah. Like I felt like a little tickle in my throat like I was going to puke for a second. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, no one should eat rats. I'm sorry, it's, that's nasty. That's some utter, that's some utter gross trash. We ate some seal in Greenland, you know, I was on a big production there is, you know, 40 people camping, and we use all local food, which, you know, they harvest sustainably.

And seal is very abundant there. and, you know, we're up on the glacier all day, and then we'd come down to camp, and they would make this nice seal meat stew. And, uh, was it good? It was hard to, it was hard to get through the meat.

And when you bite into the piece of meat, as your teeth break down the fibers, this like, it like rockets this like oily substance into your mouth. And so it's, it's actually fucking disgusting. Doesn't sound good. Dude, and then it was on like day six of the trip,

not to get gross here, but so like day six. Oh, get gross. Get gross. And I just realized I was like, I've only taken a piss. I haven't even had this slight inclination to shit in six days. Like it hasn't even been like a thought in my mind. And so I went to the crew medic and I said, hey, man, I was pretty embarrassed. I was like, hey, I haven't even like thought about shitting in six days.

It's, I think, day seven. And he was this super fucking badass South African dude. I don't know. I can't do the accent, but he's like, yeah, I mean, neither, mate. He's like, I, yeah, nobody has. A lot of people have been saying they can't shit. And I think we realized that we just weren't prepared to handle the seal meat. Yeah, you're a, bru, listen. I don't think that anybody out here is taking shits at the moment. I reckon that what's going on is the seal is stuffing us up. And one of these days, we're just going to have a massive blowout, my china.

Dude, I'll tell you what. I want to try and get this guy on the podcast because the listeners would be fascinated, man. This guy was a special forces guy for, he ended up moving from South Africa to England. It was somehow in their special forces. And then he started this private security company. And he has some fucking stories, man. Oh, yeah. Dude, I mean, like the type of shit, like pirates take over an oil rig. They call this guy's company.

You know, he's retired now. Yeah, yeah. Like, dude, like, literally like climbing out of a submarine onto an oil rig to get rid of pirates, like shit like that. If we could get him on, dude, he could just go for a while. Hell yeah. That'd be awesome. Get on it, producer. So there's some other stuff that I have seen in the news this week that I thought might be bringing up, be worth bringing up. There's some fun stuff. One of my favorite things, something that I've like talked to Congress about is, you know, resolving problems with habitat

loss for animals. I saw that recently a judge in Brazil ruled their, right outside of Rio de Janeiro, they would put in a land bridge to be built, you know, fully planted with trees over the highways so that the Golden Lion Tamarins, these gorgeous little monkeys can swing safely between the trees without, you know, without any problems. Nice, dude. Why are they doing that? Okay. So these Gold Lion Tamarins are the incredible little primates.

There's only about 3,000 of them left. And they have pretty expansive ranges, right? But when you have a pretty big range of only 3,000 these animals left, they're spread out. And all of a sudden, you know, in Rio de Janeiro, a massive city, there's freeways separating their habitat. So these animals now either have the, they either cannot cross the freeway or they have to go down and run across the road and they're obviously going to get hit. So when there's only 3,000 of them left, you know, you can't really afford for a single one of them to get hit. So putting in land bridges, literally just imagine a bridge with. a forest grove over it that goes, you know, 20 feet above the highway, now these animals and

their primates are really intelligent can safely cross between freeways to mate with others and, and, you know, hopefully contribute to the recovery of the species. That's awesome. I love that kind of stuff. And it's the kind of thing that I think we just need more of in general, right? Like, we've done a good job industrializing all over the world, putting in awesome freeways and buildings and all these things that we need as human beings. Now is time to like go and revisit that and be like, hey, why don't we put in some land bridges? Why don't we put some trees on the tops of skyscrapers? They do that in Singapore a lot and it's beautiful.

You see it all over Instagram. Incorporating wildlife and growth and like organic nature into cities. And I love that stuff. I think it's awesome. I think it's what we need to be doing. So here's something that like this has become like kind of a controversial thing too, I think. Okay. Is grass.

Like having lawns all over the U.S. It's like a nostalgic thing whenever I see a nice green lawn. but nowadays people are kind of like, well, we should be using that to grow stuff that's beneficial for the environment. Is that like ridiculous? So yes and no, right? First of all, lawns take up a ton of water. Especially out here. Yeah.

Yeah, in some places. And that's no good, right? So if you live in a desert, if you live in Palm Springs and you have a cushy lawn, that is a waste of water, no doubt about. But, you know, if you're living in a suburb in Burbank and you're watering your lawn, do you think that planting a bunch of native weeds in your garden is going to help anything? No, it's not. You know, it's not like you're bringing back the ecosystem in your, your 30 foot by 30 foot front yard by putting a bunch of native weeds in. Like, that's not going to do anything. The best option, in my opinion, is meat in the middle, right? We have really cool native plants in California that look good. They're decorative. In fact, one of them, the Dudleya got poached to the point of near extinction. You know, going, and I'm not saying go and do that, obviously. But go and get native plants that look good that are drought tolerant that'll do well here in California. So you don't have to run your hose pipe 365 days a year. Plant those in your yard.

Make it attractive. And we've all seen it, right? We've all seen those pictures or been to Palm Springs and seen the beautiful cactus garden with the cool rock walkway. It looks better. When you incorporate the natural organic stuff that should be there in that ecosystem into the environment, it looks way better than when you see a massive green golf course in Las Vegas and you're like, this looks weird. Like this doesn't look right being here.

Dude, I was, so we had a really bad drought in California. That was maybe like three years ago. I mean, we have droughts all the time, but one that was really bad. Right. And I was listening to the, I'm one of those people that still listens to AM radio when I'm in my car, which I get made fun of for. But I was listening to it because like they were saying like, limit your shower. is like at a shower timer.

So I got like the little shower timer. It limits you to like three minutes, whatever. They were like, you know, if you only take a piss and your piss is pretty clear, maybe you don't flush every time. It was doing all this shit, right? And I see, so I'm listening to the radio. And the host was talking and he said there were at least because they published to shame people. Do you guys remember this?

Water violators or water abusers. They published the list. So you could actually see people's names that were. violating the drought because it was just a monetary penalty. They weren't shutting off your water. And there was a Saudi sheik that owned 10 different houses in Beverly Hills that were each using 25,000 gallons a day or more. Oh, my God.

And the radio host was like, he's, and he doesn't live here. He doesn't live in any of them. So I was just like, the radio host was like, man, like, me and my wife were like pissing on top of each other's piss. and like this guy's using 250,000 gallons a day. I just feel like a stupid fucking idiot. To get a little deeper in that whole rabbit hole, so we have a big problem with water usage

and the way that it's structured in the United States, right? And one of the reasons being, if you, like where I am out here in Montana, right, and further south, like in Utah and Idaho and places like that, and if you're a farmer, I'm sorry if I'm going to upset you, but this is the truth about the system, is you getting a, lotment of water, right? Say your allotment, I'm going to make up these numbers. Say it's a thousand gallons, right? That's your allotment of water to use to water your crops. Obviously, it's way, way more than that. If you don't use a thousand gallons in a year,

then next year, you're going to have an allotment of 900 gallons, right? So what ends up happening is come like November, December, when the crops are all done, right? We're done harvest, everything's over, snow's coming. And I know this because I worked on a ranch in in Elko, Nevada, and I saw them doing this while I was there doing biological stuff, come like August, September, whatever, October, November, getting towards the end of the year, things are starting to freeze. The crop harvest is done. In order to maintain your water rights as a farmer or rancher, you are going to flood your fields with as much water as you can. So that next year, and in some states, there's a penalty in most there isn't. So that next year,

they go, hey, this guy actually needed 1,200 gallons instead of 1,000. We need. need to up his allotment. And so everybody starts doing that. And they will just waste water as much water as they can to try and up their allotments year after year. And it's just, it's like a race to the bottom, right? Where every single person that is doing this is going to use up as much water as they can so that they don't get their allotment taken down because if they get their allotment taken down too much, then they cannot expand and continue to grow crops. So it's like this very vicious cycle with the way that it's set up, where every year farmers will use, they'll lean on the subsidy with the water and they'll use up as much water as they can

so that next year they have more water, which is, it's absolutely bonkers. Yeah. You know, especially out west where we basically are in constant drought. Are you surprised that the state government didn't figure out a good way to do the system? Of course not. They're, and then they're moronic. And then they won't change it because it's how it is. You know, they're like, oh, well, that's the bottom of the list thing to deal with now.

So I was looking through some of our feedback from the Brosner's and the Wild Bunch. There we go. And someone, actually two different people asked for some behind the scenes of Extincter Alive. Like an interesting story. They said who's the most interesting person you met along the way? What was the biggest I fucked up moment so far? Just like a little, they really enjoy like the behind the scenes of one of the shows. I like that.

What comes to mind for us? What jumps right into your mind? Man, the most interesting people that we've met. You know, I think for some reason, the first thing that jumps to my mind, Patrick, you'll remember this. It was also one of the, like, it's kind of a two for one, right? So we were in a cave in Zanzibar trying to get a blessing from a witch doctor to who, if this witch doctor would allow us to see these evil spirits,

maybe we'd be able to track down these leopards. And without his permission, it would be, you know, kind of a faux pa. So we went in to meet this witch doctor and we waited very respectfully. And I remember the woman in the cave where the witch doctor was performing the ceremony. She had paid the witch doctor like four goats to fix her of the ailment, of which someone else had placed on her for like three chickens. Right. So, yeah. So it was just like super fucked up.

And then we went and sat there and we sat down and I was, you know, You remember this, Patrick, super respectful, like, talk to the witch doctor and we're like, hey, you know, do you think that we'll be successful with this? Like, do you think that things will be go well with the, with the leopard? He's like, no. And I was like, oh, well, would you be willing to like, you know, bless us and like grant us like a safe journey and, you know, wish us the best in finding the leopard? And he's like, no. He's like, I don't want you to find the leopard. There aren't any leopards.

And he just like, we just kept hitting like dead wall after dead wall. And I was like, is there, is there anything you can do to help us here? And he's like, no, I'm not going to help you. I just remember when it came out in the show and edit, it was just like him being like, okay, good luck, because that was what he said at the end. I was like, yeah, all right, thanks, man. Yeah, we didn't get a whole lot. I mean, the ceremony itself was cool for the woman who appeared to just have like whooping cough or whatever.

Right. But yeah, I mean, that part of it I thought was really funny. What language were they speaking? Is that Swahili? I don't recall, to be quite honest. But someone was translating for us. And, or for us, I should say. And she came in.

She was coughing her fucking head off. This is pre-COVID. And she was really sick, you know, and I think she was pregnant, too. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, she was. And she was super sick. And she said, I'm sick. I think, you know, someone has put a curse on me.

And he said, I know I'm the one who put the curse on you. Right. One of your neighbors paid me three chickens. to put the curse on you, I'll remove the curse for three goats. Yep. And she was like, like, whatever, yes.

And part of the ceremony, and by no means am I making fun of the ceremony. This is part of the culture. Part of the ceremony involved taking a little sip of some urine. Sure did. No. Yep.

She was still coughing after the ceremony, but I'm going to assume it went away later. Oh, urine's sterile, man. You can be fine. You know, you don't want. to eat a piece of shit, but the other thing is when we showed up, we met the witch doctor and he was wearing a Boston Red Sox t-shirt. That's right.

In the middle of a jungle in Zanzibor. What's up with that? Well, they ship, so what happens is they ship a lot of clothing. So you know how, like during the American League championship game, right? As soon as the team wins to go to the World Series, they all put their t-shirts on that say American League champs. Well, it's because they've already made them for. both teams. Right. Right. So the team that doesn't win, they ship the clothing to Africa as part of

like just donations of clothing and stuff like that. Oh, okay. So you do see a lot of that there, but we were like in the middle of this pretty gnarly jungle in Zanzibar, and we were like, yeah, that's not, that Boston Red Sox T-shirts, not quite what we were hoping for. Could you, do you have anything else? Patrick, but you know what actually you reminded me of when we were talking about that story, something that never came to air in any life. Tell the story about Kendall, the producer, and what happened to her? Oh, man, that was an ordeal, my friend. Yeah, we had a producer on the show who we had flown from, well, we were in Zanzibar,

and we spent a lot of time sitting in blinds at night looking for this leopard. And one of the producers, you know, we had a medic who was a really good guy, good medic from Kenya, and one of the producers had gone to the medic. and then, you know, as the EP of the show, he comes and tells me and he tells Forrest, he's like, you know, your producer is sick. She got, she was not feeling well. And she came to me and she has this big, she looks like a big bug bite on her butt cheek. We're like, okay, well, you know, let us know. And we talk to her. And she's like, yeah, no, it's good. We'll continue on. So then we flew from there to Madagascar. When we're in Madagascar, the bite is getting worse. And the medic needs to do surgery on the bite just in the hotel. So he basically makes an incision, drains the fluid, whatever. We then take a flight to a small air strip where we get basically land on like a fucking dirt air strip in the millin nowhere. Oh yeah. And then take a four-hour boat ride.

But she was still like... So she had to be flown out of there. So it must have been some serious shit. Yeah. So now we're really in the middle of nowhere. Like it's a four-hour boat ride to a plane that only, you know, you have to get a hold of someone to come pick you up. And then she starts getting really sick. So to be clear, it was a flight to Madagascar, then to a smaller airport, then to a flight five hours to a dirt strip, to a four-hour car ride, to a two-hour boat ride, to another car ride to where we were staying.

So, yes. What's her condition this whole time? Like, okay. Like hanging in, feeling worse at night, but just thinking, just going to get through it. Yep. Then it starts getting worse pretty quickly. It starts getting worse and worse and worse. And, like, is 104 to 105 fever for, like, two.

days. Oh, shit. And they thought maybe it's malaria. The medic didn't have a malaria test kit, but it's like now to the point where it's like, this person's going to die. Yeah, so she broke into, I remember because she, you know, the other medic was like, Forrest, you have some medical training, right? And I was like, yeah, not like you, but a little bit.

He's like, would you come and give me a second opinion? And I went in to visit with her. And she was, she was just drenched in sweat, shivered. like feverishly and I was like can I see this bite zone and uh you know it was on her butt cheek she pulled down her pants and showed me this bite and it was it was like if you've ever seen like one of the old spider man's where there's the black veins like coming off of it from from from like a gnarly infection and I was like this is not good yeah it was it was pretty gnar so it was like you know I we did a night thing we were out on a night hike um and came back

and I went to check and she was like fucking near death. And so like I went to bed for a few hours, went as soon as the sun rose and checked, I was like she's like essentially a corpse. So then we made the call to evacuate. And it was the most insane evacuation ever. I went with her, got to a hospital in Madagascar, which was not good. And then got to a hospital in South Africa, which was shockingly, the hospital in Johannes I thought was horrendous.

Johannesburg's a big, like, modern city in a lot of ways. They didn't give a fuck that she was, like, essentially sitting there dying. Yep. So then we got an emergency airlift from a 16-and-a-half-hour flight from there to New York. She got rushed to the hospital there, Discovery Channel, and was good enough to, like, get, like, the bet, like, literally, like, the head of the hospital at NYU to meet her there. And long story short, she had something called. African tick bite fever from a tick that had burrowed into her ass when we were sitting in this

blind without her knowing. And then that turned into a staff infection on top of it. Yikes. And it was not good, but made a full recovery. It's doing fine now. But it was, it was fucking scary, man. And I'll tell you this, the close, I think the closest I've ever been to dying in my entire life was the Medevac plane that we got on this dirt airstrip. We flew. through a fucking, I mean, dude, such a bad thunderstorm. I remember you telling me that. And so it's me sitting next to the pilot. She's in a stretcher with a medic that didn't, you know, didn't give a shit about what was happening.

And we were flying through this thunderstorm in the smallest plane, dude, the size of a car. And, I mean, like falling, like hundreds of feet. It was so bad. Oh, my God, dude. It was so fucking bad. I was like, this is fuck. Fuck, I'm going to die in a plane crash in Madagascar. And then that doesn't it make the show.

Oh, no. Stuff like that never makes the show, you know, because it's not part of it. No. Hey, but that's why people are listening to this podcast because you only get to hear that kind of shit here. So speaking of people listening to this podcast, I got an email from Dusty Smith, day before yesterday. And Dusty writes, my son Chase Smith will be 11 years old on September 16th. He must, wait, am I this far behind? Hold on.

September's coming up. It always comes right after August. Yeah. Oops, redo. Nope. Dusty writes, my son, Chase Smith will be 11 years old on September 16th. He absolutely loves everything you do. We listen together to the Wild Times podcast. He would love to get a shout out or something from you.

I think he may have most of 20 episodes memorized. You have awakened his need to know more things, which I love. You also made him feel great because you at 13 needed training wheels on the bike. And he is still trying to ride a bike with training wheels, but he is working on it. Awesome. Thank you again. Hell yeah. So from all of us here at the Wild Times, Chase, we just wanted to say, happy birthday, buddy.

Thank you for listening. Thank you to your dad for riding in. We love hearing that. And dude, you're only 11. You're rocking training wheels. You're fine, Chase. I was 13 riding those suckers. All right.

You're good. You're ahead of the game. Yeah, that said, Chase, if you find yourself at 13 still using training wheels, you should stop riding bikes and just be one of those people who can't. Yeah, yeah, get a skateboard. You're already cooler than Forest, Chase. Yeah, exactly. For sure. Well, guys, this has been fun, but I do think it's time.

For what? The Battle Royale. The Battle Royale. Yeah. What do you got, Pat? This one was submitted by one of the Brouseners, and I like it a lot. I think this is a good one. All of you should reach out, submit Battle Royale ideas.

A lot of fan engagement. Who sent it, man? Brousman. Will copied and pasted it into the thing. All right, so here it is. Look, a lot of people believe in heaven and hell. A lot of people believe that there's nothing after you die. And a lot of people believe in reincarnation in this world.

Reincarnation is pretty appealing, I think, if it were to happen, Retepp would come back as some sort of slug just moving from leafy thing to leafy thing looking for a bite. Cheap shot. Cheap shot. But, uh, okay. So here's the question. You die. I'm sorry, but you, you dead.

Uh, you get reincarnated as a pet, a pet. You're going to be someone's pet. Uh, so what animal would you be? Where in the world would you live? And who would be your owner that you're very loyal to? Oh my God. Okay. All right.

Take us away, Peter. Yeah, you're first. All right. What? I was first last week. I can't do two weeks in a row first. Can we all just rule out Michael Vicks' dogs right away, or are we going to lead with them? No, that's not ruled out.

That's not ruled out. If someone wants to do that. All right. Fine. I'll go. I'll go. All right. What do you got?

All right. I would, well, first of all, I'm going to be the best pet in the world. not necessarily normally a domestic pet. I'm going to be a tiger. That's right. I'm going to be a tiger. Joe's tiger? Joe Exotics.

Don't step on my fucking story. Sorry? Jeez, for us. So I'm going to be a tiger. And there was a man named Joe Exotic who had many tigers in a big what looked like a fun zoo slash sanctuary. So I would be a tiger at Joe Exotic Zoo, a white tiger.

That's right. And I would be very well trained. And I would get to eat lots of old Walmart meat and pizzas, anything that the crew did not take out of the truck. They were smashing frozen pizza, weren't they, the tigers? Yeah. And I would live in South Florida just because I feel like that's the kind of shit that goes on in South Florida. All right. That's pretty good. I'll jump in here. I'll jump in here. So what kind of animal? Where would I live? And who's my owner? So I got it. I'm going to be a chihuahua. Now, the reason why is I like the idea of being a dog. They have a fun life. They get to jump and run and chew on things, which I like doing. And people treat their chihuahuas differently. They carry them to restaurants. They carry them shopping in the purse, you know, you're going along for the journey. You're going to do everything if you're a nice

small weightless dog. Wheatless? There's weight. What's a Chihuahua way? Four or five pounds? 10 maybe. Ways next to nothing. All right. So then that brings me to the question, well, where am I going to live in? Whose Chihuahua might be? Very quickly, probably about 12 years ago, a friend of mine who's a comedian, we were just out drinking with some friends. And he was like, dude, you got to do me a huge favor tonight. I have to stop by this party. He's like, well, just go. And, we're just go. And It'll be like a half hour. Okay. I'm like, all right.

I don't want to go see anyone I don't know. I was like this when I was 25. I want to be with like my five friends at the same bar where we know the bartender. I don't like going to fucking house parties where I don't know people. He convinces me to go. We go up into the Hollywood Hills. It's fucking Paris Hilton's house. No way.

I'm not name dropping this. I'm livid because we get there and it's in the middle of the fucking. in Hollywood Hills, there's no service, right? So we go in, he finds Paris. He's like, hey, she's like, oh my God, I got to show you something. He leaves me. So now I'm alone in the backyard at this party. I don't know a single person. And he's somewhere in the house with Paris Hilton. And so I just have no, I don't know what to do. So I just am pretending to text even though I don't have service. Classic move. Yeah. So I'm just sitting. It's awful. He disappears for an hour, finally comes back.

but what I did notice when we were in the backyard was Paris Hilton had a fucking like three-story dog house that was probably 1,400 square feet for her chihuahuas. Wow. They were living in the lap of luxury. Okay. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, guys. Paris Hilton has since moved from L.A. to Ibiza. Oh.

An island off the coast of Spain known for its fun beaches and wild parties. So I'm just going to live there, man. I'm going to live in a three-story dog condo in an ether and eat a lot of pizza. And I'm a chihuahua, and that's what I'm doing. That's a good one. I know you haven't won a lot of battle royals, but this one's up. I'm not going to win. The listeners hate me.

No, for the first time ever, I'm not angry about your selection. All right. So here's mine, right? I think we've discussed this before on Zapod, but Pablo Escobar, when he was around, imported a whole lot of exotic creatures to his insane compound in, where was he, Medellin? Yeah, I think he was.

Medellin. Yeah. So very cool, whatever, had a bunch of creatures. He had tigers. He had lions. He had kangaroos. He was all over the place. But the one creature that he imported,

that's still there today, running amok because it is such a fantastic life is a bunch of hippos. Okay. So imagine this. Yeah, imagine you're a hippo. And you're living this life in Africa where everything wants to kill you and eat.

You big bull hippos want to kill you. You live in the Zambezi River that can be lined head to tail with Nile Crocodiles. And you're just a baby. You're just a little fat pink pig swimming in this river. When all of a sudden you get scooped up, you fly first class in the cargo

area. You're Pablo's hippo. You're not flying coach. Come on. You get scooped up. You get dropped off in Columbia. In the Amazon jungle where there is all the water hyacinth

you can eat and nothing that can even remotely damage you. And now as you grow up to be a pissed off giant hippo, this guy who had you in his incredible drug compound is now gone. He's dead. He's been assassinated.

cares. So instead of going down with the rest of the animals, you're just going to let yourself out the gate, hop into the nearest river, and spend the rest of your life fucking and eating water hyacinth and making more Columbia hippos. It's a perfect life. Hey, Forrest,

real quick, how do hippos shit? What do they do when they shit? Oh, they spin their tails around to spread their feces in a spray-like motion. Now, so that they and they always come out of the water to do. Forest. So you're,

You're pretty excited about that. You're going to, you're going to spay your shit around? Oh, that's big time. You know, I would be a hippo just to, just to poop. What? Nope. Mm-mm. You don't like that.

No, no. This, I have a big, big problem with this. The main problem that I have with this is that, like somebody who's been in jail for a long time or somebody who's gone to war, that you would be mentally damaged if you were rescued. You would not be a happy, happy hippo. You would be fucked up. You'd be like, what's going on? I'm trying to defend myself.

You're looking for shanks. I mean, you would be a fucking insane if you were a hippo that was pulled out of its natural habitat and put in this nice, you know, next to Pat's dog in Paris Hilton's fucking backyard. No good. Is that why there's now 80 of them there? Because they're having such a bad time. They're just humping like jackrabbits making more hippos. That's really why you want to fucking do this so that you can fuck another hippo, you sick hippo.

Whatever, dude. What he said? The listeners decide. Yeah, I mean, I also agree he will not be a happy, happy hippo. He's going to be a hungry, hungry hippo. Because he's not going to know how to fend for himself. You've been waiting to say hungry hippo the whole time. He was looking for that.

Literally, I couldn't get out fast enough. I'm really excited about it. I'm going to celebrate with another cocktail alone in the dark. Yes. There you go. What a move. Guys. Well, guys, it's been a pleasure.

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