Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Finding Rare Animals in India - The Wild Times Ep. 106

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

The Wild Times crew discuss Forrest's trip with his mom to India, if Peter could take on a marten, and how the world would be if our genitals were on our foreheads. Leave a review on iTunes Apple Podcast: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/itune...   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildtimespod/   Official Website: https://wildtimes.club/   Info: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/info   Merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch   Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/wildtimespod  Enjoy, brosteners!

Wait, if it was a fight till death between him and a golden-throated marmot, who would win? Fight till death. If this thing's biting him. If Peter had a baseball bat or a rock, he could win, for sure. If it was literally just Peter versus singular yellow-throated Martin, the Martin will win. Both naked. Oh, nude really does add a fearsome element to it. Wild times.

I was hoping there was going to be like an Indian like ring ding ding the wild times today because I've been very into that at the moment. We told Kyle that we wanted that and he didn't do it. Yeah. I mean, he is a very, very amateur producer to be honest. Wow. Even though he's unpaid and only 21, I'm really disappointed. He didn't have it composed. That's right.

I don't know. I don't know why he didn't pay. pick up all the musical instruments, learn how to play them, compose the song. Is it so much to ask, Kyle? He needs a sitar. A sitar. He couldn't find one I heard. Well, gentlemen.

Namaste from India. I found myself. Shut the fuck up. Okay. No, I found myself. That's what I came to India for. I'm right here. I'm in India.

There's a mirror literally right in front of me. Don't move anything. We just spent 20 minutes setting this up. No, no, no, no. Just calm down. I've found myself. I get why every basic white woman comes to India now. I get it.

How are you scared at? When you get here. How are your sexual escapades throughout India going? Yeah. Yeah, he did it. He unplugged his mic. What a moron? You knew it.

It's fine. It's back. It's back. It's back. It's got like a little light that tells me when it's working. Dude. So wait, where are you? What's going on?

We ever know. This is the Wild Times episode 1 or something. Great. What's going on? Yeah, let's just get into it. It's the Wild Times. This is our show. If you haven't watched it by now,

you're too late. Just fucking sign off. Yeah, those like 100,000 subscribers we've gained in the last 28 days. Sign off. Stop watching. Don't listen to this podcast. I'm telling you right now. He's a real jerk.

Watch for me and watch for the Spiceman. Don't. Don't listen to this. It's a waste of your time. All right, I'm joking. I'm here. Yeah, so it's great. So I'm with my mom.

It's just my mom and I. And we are traveling around. First, we went to Nepal. And we went to look for red panda in, oh, man, I'm just blanking on it. In the high Himalayas, I'm blanking on the name of the National Park in the Poly National Park. And that was absolutely incredible. We found one red panda each day, which is very good for sightings up there. Some of them were really far away and hard to get good shots.

of and on the second to last day, the trackers were like, right here, right here, like, come, come, come. So we're like, it's really hard. You're at 12,000 feet. And I've got my, like, 60-something-year-old mother with me. So she's, you know, she's like trying to keep up at 12,000 feet. Like, I can't walk up a flight of stairs without being like, oh, here we go. Yeah.

She's probably doing a better job than I would. Wait, so, so what's the terrain like up there? Is it like Rocky Mountainous scree or like, what are you doing? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're looking at Everest the whole time. Everest is in the backdrop the whole time. Everest and not K2, but the following three largest mountains in the world are the Vista at all

times. And so, and you're not obviously on par with Everest, but you're looking across this huge valley at it. And so it's super mountainous. There's ice on the ground every morning. It's freezing cold. It's what you think of when you think Himalayas, you know, where like a couple thousand feet below the permafrost snow level.

but you're right there where, you know, it's cloud forest. It's very cold. It is dense bamboo jungle, but it's that cold cloud foresty Himalayas. It's gray every day. It's very wet. It's very icy. It sounds miserable. Wow.

Oh, my God. It is the worst road. And that's not where I am now. Now I'm in Kazaringa and Assam in India. This was the first part of the trip. But just getting there was, Patrick, we've been on some trips to get to places. This was unlike anything I've ever done. It was, so fly, it was like, it was like 80 something hours to get there.

So I drove Santa Barbara to L.A., flew L.A. to Tokyo, 14-hour layover in Tokyo, Tokyo to Delhi, overnight in Delhi, Delhi to Kathmandu, clear customs, Kathmandu to some tiny airport in Nepal, 7.5-hour drive up the worst road I've ever been on. I've been on off-roading trips to find bad roads. I mean, the worst road ever... Are you driving or did you have a driver? No, I had a driver. I had a driver.

Okay, because I was going to say that's fucking nightmare. Oh, my God. And the driving there is insane. And then, yeah, anyway, it just took... And it was just nonstop. So it took three and a half days to get there. Met my mom there. And it was just awesome.

This tiny little place. In fact, Kyle, you could pull it up. It's called Habres, H-A-B-R-E-S, Nest. Habre's Nest in Nepal. And it's this tiny traditional Nepali-style homestay. And everything's made out of high mountain bamboo. They give you like, yeah, this is it right here. Holy shit.

Go to the third picture, the interior, right there. That's the whole building, by the way. Like you're not like, oh, this must be the dining commons or something. That's it. The dining commons. And it was just awesome. And we just had super fun four days of my mom and I, like, a bunch of different trackers, like 20 trackers out looking for Red Panda.

And then just, you know, with my ultimate goal of taking nice photos of them and my mom's bucket list of seeing them. And it was fantastic. How, Kyle, could you pull up a Red Panda pick? Go to my picks. Don't just pull up a random one, Kyle. Go to my Instagram post. Let's show the people how good I'm getting with this camera.

How quickly. Did you get fed up with the trackers and build a meat tree? No, you know this firsthand, Patrick. These are my shots I took with JQ's camera, by the way. Very proud of them. Yeah, really great. Holy crap. Thank you.

That's amazing, that photo. That's the one everybody likes. I have some really cool tights. Kyle, I'll text them to you all we're chatting, and you can pull them up as well. Text them to them while one of us is talking, though, please. No, you're good. relax. You're good, you're good, you're good.

But anyway, it's, it's, you know what I'm like. You think I'm always going to get fed up and tell them they're doing it wrong and like go and do it my own way. These guys were solid. Like they knew exactly what they were doing. They knew how to, they like, remember when we're in Madagascar and you're like, how did you spot that chamele and all I see is jungle? Yeah.

They were like that with me with Red Panda. They're like, there's a Red Panda right there. And I'm just looking at this massive mountain scale. And I'm like, there's no red panda there. And they're like, it's right there. How do you not see it? It's that tiny little fur spot on the upper right hand, like third most of the mountain. Like I not see it.

And I'm like, oh, I see something. Clearly. No. How rare. I admittedly know almost nothing about red panda. How rare are they? Well, and that's interesting because the guy who I was there with is sort of the lead researcher on them, of course. It's not like there's a lot of facilities that are dealing with them in the wild.

And IUCN has them listed at around 20,000. And he's like, no, we do our own population counts. I don't know why they have that number. There's about 4,000 in the wild. We do face recognition with them. We do AI to compare all the face shots because every single's face is one. Every single red panda's face is unique based on the coloring and the market. And he's like, there's 4,000 tops left in the wild.

Wow. Dude, that's crazy that they're, that, you know, you think tracking by scientists, you're like, go and they blow a dart at them and then put a bracelet on them. But no, they're tracking them with AI and like digital fucking crazy face tracking and stuff. Is that common or is that just something they do with endangered species? No, it's becoming more and more common. So the way it works is animals that are unique tigers, right, which all have unique stripe patterns, red panda, which all have unique facial patterns, leopards, panthers,

things like that. You just build a database. So you can only do it once you have so many shots, right? So once you have 10,000 face photos, then you can put them all in a database and start matching them and going, okay, the spots on this are the same as the spots on this. That's the same animal. And so then once you build that database,

scientists can then use AI to determine how many animals they are because you just go out every day, you shoot photos, or you put camera traps, and you load them into the system. And then it's like, oh, well, it turns out you haven't shot a new animal in the last five years, right? Here's how many animals there are. So it gets to a, you have to reach a point of data entry

before you can do that. Sure, of course. But, you know, it's, and that's a long point in a hard process to get to, but that's what this guy has done up there. I saw a copy of Neil Waters' Excel spreadsheet where he's tracking the thylacines he's found. It's pretty incredible. He had over 5,000 entries.

Most of my house cats, but... Duplicates. I read a duplicate film. filter on it. So is that the first time you'd seen one in the wild, a red panda? Of course. Yeah. There's only really one place you can. It's all just in the Himalayas, yeah? Correct. Yeah. I mean, you know, Nepal, I think they reach into China a little bit and then India. And so it's just that region. And go ahead, Kyle, pull the photos up. I'm very proud of my photos. These are exclusive, if you're watching this on YouTube, if you're listening, too bad.

These are photos that I shot. By the way, go back, Kyle. Fuck off. So look, Forrest, obviously you're at the end of your long lens there. What kind of lens are you on there? I have a 7-1-05. So he's at the end of his 200-mill. Nerds. Or close to it.

Yep. A little soft on the face. Now, for you taking that, it's an exquisite photo. Imagine how we would have treated Mitch if that was his shot. I'd punch him in the dick and tell him to go sit down. Yeah. No, it's a beautiful shot. Keep going, Kyle.

They're just so cute. Yeah, they are. These are old punts in all the way. You got to love the tongue out. Any animal it sticks its tongue out. I'm going to post this photo. Here's an exclusive for everybody. I'm going to post this photo and I'm going to write this caption.

Should I quit my day job, move to the Himalayas and do nothing but fill this page with Renn Panda shots? Question mark? Master Sifu says yes, because he looks like Master Sifu from. the kid's karate panda movie. No, haven't seen it. Yeah. My kids not old enough.

Yeah, you guys are just not old enough. No, these are great. How big are these? Like size of like a small dog? Yes, a little bit bigger than our raccoons. Okay. I don't know how many pounds, to be honest. But, you know, they're a good size.

They're like a big, a really big raccoon, like a size of a small golden retriever. So for someone who literally brought lizards and snakes into class to try to impress girls, and it failed miserably, as someone whose entire job has never had a job outside of wildlife and conservation in their life, couldn't do one. You'd fail. I would. You'd be very bad at almost any job except that. I agree.

Describe the level. Tell me the feel like I actually want to know. like what is the feeling of joy or exhilaration when you see such a rare animal in the wild for the first time? It's interesting because I think I'm jaded because I've done it a lot. And if the sighting's not good, I don't get that elation. And so, for instance, the very first morning, there's absolutely no signal at the lodge. You have to hike up like, not that far, like maybe a quarter mile up the mountain and you get like a couple bars of 3G signal. and I got in, I was all stressed out, I was jet lagged, I was like, I got to get on my phone,

I got to check emails and respond to stuff. And I grabbed literally in my sweats and hoodie with a cup of coffee and flip-flops, I walked up the hill the first morning. We got there late at night, first morning, and I'm on my 3G answering emails, and the tracker comes running up the hill, he's like, Mr. Forrest, Mr. Forrest, Panda. And I'm like, oh, cool. And he's like, there. And so I was literally sitting there with my cup of coffee with my phone in my hand.

And like I was explaining, way across the valley, there was a panda. And I was still in like pajamas and flip flops. And I was like, I didn't feel much because I was like, okay, I've seen it. Like I came all this way. I've been traveling for three days. I'm still stressed out from like Western world of work and everything else. And it's right there. I mean, it's not close.

But like I see the red spot. I've done it. And I was kind of almost like disappointed. I was like, why did we travel for four days to just like see it in the first 10 minutes? And then, right. And then, you know, we went and had breakfast and blah, blah, blah, blah, and the panda disappeared. And we didn't see anything the rest of the day. And then went to bed and was kind of like, I guess we've done it.

I guess we've seen a red panda. Maybe we should leave sooner kind of thing is what I was thinking, but not saying it. And then the next day we woke up, nothing happening. Went and sat, there was a bird hide, shot some martins, which are these beautiful little yellow-throated animals. Actually, they're really cool. We should talk about them. Terrifying. Even attack people.

And nothing happened. Nothing happened. lunch rolled around, had a lunch, kind of sitting around, like, did some hiking, didn't see anything. And then like three o'clock in the afternoon, one of the trackers comes running in. He's like, panda, panda, panda. And we have to go on this gnarly hike. I'm like pulling my mom up the rocks through the bamboo forest, you know, like pushing her up to try and get her to where this guy is. Took us like 45 to an hour to get there.

Real quick. And then were you touching your butt? I was. Okay. Just want to make sure. My gym school teacher did that. And your uncle. And anyway, and then we get up this, like, this hill through the bamboo forest.

I'm sweating, you know, like huffing and puffing because you're not used to the altitude. And the red panda's like 200 feet away. And it's just sitting out on this branch and it's eating peacefully, magnificently, totally on a fault. And then it just sort of hit me. And it was like, oh, my God. Like, this animal is so, like, I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. Look, my hair standing up. Because I'm just like, this animal is so perfect.

and unique. It's its own, not just his own species, it's its own family. Like, there's nothing related to it. Not pandas, not bears, not raccoons, nothing, really. And you're just sitting there, there's, this is one of four thousand of them left in the wild, and it's chewing on bamboo, and it knows you're there. It's acknowledging you, but not altering its behavior because it doesn't feel affected by you. It's not like you're praying on it. And that's when it sort of hit me, and I was like, I wasn't emotional, but I was like, fuck, yeah. Like, this is amazing. Like, I'm sitting in the Himalayas, Everest in the backdrop.

This, arguably the most beautiful, adorable creature on the planet, like 300 feet away from me. And I'm like, all right, this is it. Now, now I get it. Like, if you told me to do that same travel back again to find another one, I'm in. You know, I was like, close at that point. Yeah. I sort of feel like, because I was thinking about two different aspects of why the first one didn't impact you as much. Tell me.

And at first I was like, okay, you're. so used to doing like these arduous expeditions and and long work to do it and trekking through and getting to a remote place. And so I was like maybe it was just too easy, right? Or it was far, you know, it was far away, but maybe it was too easy. But then as I really think about the human brain, I also think the anxiety stress from the travel and the not fully being disconnected from life as someone who works and as a producer and all this shit. I sort of feel like that's probably the bigger part of it, is that like when you're still looking at your fucking phone

and worrying about an email, it's like there's almost a maximum amount of joy or elation that you can possibly feel when emails and being connected and cell phones are a part of your life. It just sort of caps you at like a six. I completely, that is such an eloquent way to put that. completely agree with you. And that's why Peter has so much stress all the time. I told him this before. It's because he needs to get away from the computer and the phone. It's not true. It's, it's, I'm never stressed. I worked 12 hours today. And then I was just telling Kyle, I need to have a cocktail because

one cocktail is like two hours of relaxation. I can test you should have had several cocktails before you went out to find this animal. What was it again? A raccoon you found? Yep. I didn't listen to No. But I will say that anytime you travel, there's always like that, like, buzz of, you like get there. You have to like calm down and be in it. That's why you can't go to a place for like two days. And that's it. Like you can never take anything in. You just won't remember anything, you know? It's almost a good point that maybe a little joy segment for our young Brosters who are all people who, you know, want to see the world travel, experience wildlife and nature. It's like there's almost no point in even taking a trip that's less than two weeks because let's call it two days.

I thought you're going to say three days. You're like no, man. It's got to be two weeks. It's like two days on the front end to get out of your regular life and be like, I'm actually on vacation. And it's like two days on the back end because you've now been counting down how many days to because about three, four days before you go home, you start going, oh my God, we only have three days left. Yeah, the Sunday jitters, dude. Yeah. And you got it for days. So you need like a solid 10 in the middle to like really settle in and be like,

I got a lot out of that. And to just experience wherever the hell you're at. I mean, you can't like, you, he just went in. He found the red panda immediately and he was like, this isn't that great. Two days or, you know, a couple days later, you're like, ah, this is fantastic. It all has to do with timing. Timing and like, like you said, disconnecting is a huge thing. I got to know the trackers.

In fact, we started drinking with them and having a ton of fun. They make this disgusting fermented millet drink that we were hammering every night. And it takes one and a half beers to get blacked out up there because of the altitude. For a normal person or for you? For me, not for a normal person. He's a lightweight. It's a three-fussed. Minimum.

What do they make that out of? What do they make the millet out of? Is it out of animal? parts are plant, do you know? No, so millet is a grain, right? And it's this fascinating cup. I don't think I have a picture of it. It's this big wooden mug and they take this millet,

which has been fermenting in a jar in the sun and smells like warmed up death, and they put it in the top part of this wooden jug and they pour boiling water and it seeps through it like tea. And it's this be weak, awful, fermented

wheat-style hot beer. And And they're just, they were just all such sweet. You know, there was 20 trackers, and I actually learned almost all of their names and their crazy names. And we were just like sitting around every evening. It was me. The only other Western people for like 300 miles were two guys from the BBC who were our

age as well. So it was super fun. And they were there filming Red Pandas. So obviously we had a lot to talk about. So it was me, these two BBC guys, my elderly mother and 20 native, trackers and we just sit around and drink the stuff. My mom would go to bed at like 839 and we'd sit up to like midnight drinking

and having terrible like broken English communication stories. It was just super fun. And then I was able to unwind and get to know everybody and track. Kyle has a, we taught them as so funny at the lodge. Kyle, pull up this video. They had Jenga. You know the game Jenga? And not one person knew how to play Jenga outside of me

and the two British guys. Let's go, Jee. Everybody picks up on it. So we're playing drinking jenga the whole time every night. That looked like so much fun, dude. Honestly, you can tell Forrest is oblit. Yeah, yeah. No, I, I, I drinking warm beer.

That was the night before we left down that terrible road. And I had to pull over and boot like three times in front of my mother who was like, are you okay? If the food doesn't agree with you, I'm like, yeah, yeah. For sure. Dude, it definitely wasn't that millet cocktail. Is there any way to get fucked up that's actually enjoyable? I mean, it's like you're just guzzling down.

All of them. No, no. I mean, it's enjoyable when you're fucked up. But, you know, like railing some fucking Coke, it doesn't feel good. I mean, you don't. I know. Never done it. That's a damn line.

I know. I told you. Forrest, I told you about the Tarmigan Schnapps, right? in Greenland? Yes, you did. Yeah, it sounds disgusting. You tell that story on the air? I think you should tell it.

You repeat a lot. Yeah, so they take this little Arctic bird. It's like a little round bowling ball with a tiny head. And they take the crop in the neck, throat, and they ferment it underground for a long period of time. And then they've made alcohol out of it. And they flavor it with all sorts of, like, stuff that makes it taste good, actually. Yeah. And it tastes about as strong as just like, it's not like fire in your throat, you know?

You don't think you're getting that fucked up. But there's unquestionably, undeniably, some other poison that you feel like you have floated out of your sober body after two shots of this stuff. And it's bizarre. Like it's a cross between mushrooms and booze. It's wild. That's like absent. That's like absent. There's like a different, a different drunk and it feels great and it's very addictive.

I've been doing it for seven years every day. Well, the amount of puke that happens. You've got to stop admitting all of your shortcomings on air like that. Look at me. I look like an insane, very pasty, pale white lunatic. It's like a crackhead inside of a cave right now. All right. It's late.

How about that? A heck of a good dad, though. A heck of a good damn. What a faja. Thank you. I do have to say this. I was sitting there, Peter. We're sitting in this blind.

It's freezing. Outta boy. Oh, shit. I think he's dead. Hold on. I'll be back. Oh, no, just kidding. That's a dark.

That's not a funny joke, dude. You're crazy. He's okay, right? Oh, yeah. This is a public one. Shit. I thought it was a Patreon. Not my mom and my wife are going to see that.

Well, oh, dude, I got in so much trouble the other day. I'm literally sitting on the plane. with my mom from from uh catmandu into india and she turns to me pokes me in the shoulder and she's like you just said you hate my dog and i'm like what the fuck are you talking about and she's like i'm listening to your pod right now and you said you hate my dog and i'm like why are you listening to my podcast what episode was that i don't know and i was like i didn't say that she's like listen and i don't know what episode i said i was like i'm not listening it's a joke mom the whole podcast is a joke. Your hamps are wrong. I think she's like, she's like working away through slowly. I think

that's like episode six. I know. I think she's just figured out what a podcast is. So now she's getting caught up. Dude, I just, I don't care anymore. Like I used to care and be like, I better, I better watch what I say. And I'm just like, I don't fucking care. I just don't. I mean, that is, that is the Joe Rogan model. Is it not? Like, where you just say whatever you feel like, whatever you're thinking, and people are like, I can relate to that because I feel that way as well, and I'm not censoring myself all the time. I literally, I legitimately can't listen to a podcast that's too, like, scripted. Sure, produce it, have segments, do things. But when it's like reading off of a piece of paper or like it's very specific, it doesn't matter what it is. It could be super

interested about it. I feel like I'm in class or something, you know? Agreed. I have a hard time with the NPR podcast. And I want to listen to them. There's a lot of really interesting ones on like mushrooms and foraging and like all these wildlife stories but it's that monotone like clearly they're reading off of like a attempt oh yeah i have such a hard time with them yeah and then they'll have some like dingle ding ding ding ding go to our sponsor's website and you'll find it's like very relaxing yeah it's like being read to at a library yeah it works a little bit in like crime like murder stories sure Like if they, if it's written well and they get you and they hook you in and the end of the.

Yes. You're like, oh, another question. Damn it. Yeah, it's only the truth. It's all the music on the true crime podcast. So do just those scary drones. The scary drone, there doesn't even need to be a story. You'll be shitting your pants.

It could just be the scary drone. True. It doesn't matter what it is. Peter, you once suggested a type of music to me to work in the background. And for about six weeks, I had it on every day. And then I totally forgot what it was called. Lofi. Lofi.

Lofi. Yeah, Lofi. So I suggested you listen to there's something called Lofi girl on YouTube. And it actually turned out we all, like Pat, listened to that. Everybody who was listening to it independently of one another. And yeah, it's called Lofi. I never heard of this genre of music. But if you look up Lofi hip hop or Lofi, I,

Kyle says in the chat, Ready Frost. I think that means ready forest. He said, Forrest, you're just too drunk to read words. Not only did he, not only did he write Forrest, he spelled it correctly.

Why did you say it twice? I was confused. You're always confused. Here's why, because I was setting up for this. Lofi hip-hop. I'll pull it up. Sorry. Pull it up.

Go ahead. Pull it up. Pull it up. Marmot. What do you think of that, Peter? I think it's beautiful. Yeah. These are,

These are, oh, that's my mom and I. Not that. Wait, go back. Go back? Sure, you could go to that. Where'd you find that? That's my mom and I with the Himala, with the Everest in the background. That's actually beautiful.

It's so cold. And I left, I left my sweatshirt on the plane, so I'm wearing nine t-shirts under my jacket. You left your sweatshirt. That's a move straight out of my playbook, leaving the sweatshry. I know. I've never done it before, ever. And I also look how put together your mom is. Hair done, makeup, perfect.

Wow. Yeah. Wow. Beautiful shot. And look at your makeup too for us. Wonderful. Okay. What do we have here?

Is this some sort of marmot? This thing is beautiful, by the way. And I'm not joking about this one. This thing is incredible. I agree. A great shot, by the way. Thank you very much. They're very cute.

They are ferocious. So that adorable little critter that you're looking at is a yellow-throated Martin. And they're one of the main predators of the Red Panda. and they're about this big. It's a ferret. It's about this big. It's a ferret for sure. The locals, I mean, they're not scared of them, but they're like, oh, no, no, don't corner one.

Like, if you get one in your kitchen, turn and run. Like, apparently these things are, and I've said this before. I've said this on the pod so many times. Mustilids, weasel family, don't fuck with them. If they got 200 pounds, it would take over the Planet Zero Quest. And those things, those adorable little Martins, they are. pack animals, they group up in a pack and they'll climb up the trees like a fucking

rabid pack of squirrels and rip a panda to parts to pieces. Terrifying. Terrifying. And look at it. Like look at it. You look at that and you're like, I just want to kiss it right on the lips. That's all I want to do is kiss it on the mouth. And they're just these crazy violent, the guy there, Shantanoo,

who's like the main researcher guy that I was telling you about, he was telling me the most horrific wildlife thing he's ever seen. And this is a guy who's been to the Masai Mara and filmed the migration. He's seen tigers kill deer. you name it like he's a big big wildlife guy big photographer so the most horrific thing he's ever seen he came around the corner one day

and there was a martin there was a little barking deer remember those munch jacks we've seen him patrick a couple places little tiny barking deer and all of a sudden the single martin comes galloping out leaps on top of it and pins it to the ground and doesn't bite it on the throat or kill it it just starts eating it from the backside forward while holding it down and he's like this little deer is like screaming Like, like, barking.

And this Martin's just pinning it to the ground and eating it, like, without killing it. He's like, it's the most, they are the worst animals. They're so violent. I mean, for people who are listening, it literally looks like a ferret with a really beautiful coloration, like a yellow throat, but much cuter than any ferret I've ever seen. It looks adorable. Isn't that insane? Yeah.

It's crazy. I mean, that's why that's probably, I guarantee you that's where on the big Lebowski, they were like, let's use a marmot to throw it in the bathtub and attack it's the scariest thing. A marmot in the water, dude. So I know we have talked about it, but muscle is the reason they're so you don't want to handle one is because of the way they're able to turn quickly? There's every animal in the world that I can think of, you can hold it in a way, even a cat, you name it, that it cannot get you. Right? You can't claw you.

It kind of bite you. It doesn't matter if it's a 15-foot crocodile. It doesn't matter if it's a cobra, whatever, a lion. There's always a gorilla. There's always a way. Wait a minute. A gorilla and a lion, no way. Not alive, like, awake gorilla or lion, but they have, like, a weak spot.

A spot. Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, even a crock, even a Nile crock, you can hold it. Anything. An Achilles tendon, if you will, that you can hold them. You know, I'm not saying you can outpower a gorilla. I'm just saying, you know, there's a spot.

like if you were behind it. You could put a gorilla in a headlock if you were strong enough, it couldn't do anything, okay? Okay. The mustelid has such a flexible spine that there is not a single weak spot on the animal. You can't hold it anywhere.

You can't pin it. You can't grab it by the face or by the head or by the tail. Nothing. There's no way in which a single musselid can like be contained. I don't know how else to put that. Safely.

No, safely. The thing is you're talking about not killing it. Of course. If you shoot anything in the head, it's pretty safe. No, no, not even shoot it. I could take it on my... I could take it on my... Well, if there was one available, I would.

Listen, I don't like to kill animals, but I'm saying... You travel with one. Don't even last time we took a trip together, you just brought a cinder block and you stuffed your socks into one hole and your underpants and another one. I was upset because the, uh, when I threw my luggage on to the scale, it was like 80 pounds because I had three cinder blocks in there.

Yeah. And all you packed with a pair of socks. Oh, just that and his gun. I need a cubby hole. But listen, I could kill one of these mustelids, right, with my bare hands? I think it was a battle till death. Wait, if it was a fight till death between him and a golden-throated marmot, who would win? Fight till death.

Because this thing's biting him. If Peter had a baseball bat or a rock, he could win, for sure. If it was literally just Peter versus singular yellow-throated Martin, the Martin will win. Both naked. Oh, nude really does add a fearsome element to it. I swear to God.

And that's what I'm saying. Like, if you're fighting like a small cat, a small crocodile, a snake to death, you will win with any of those. Snake, you pick it up, bop it on the head, right? A small crocodile, I'm not going to win. Any of it. Any of it, you will win.

You will not beat that yellow throat. I swear to God. That thing would rep, it would crawl all over you, it would rip little pieces out of you would be done. There's nothing. And they travel in packs, so, I mean. You bleed out, like a roasted tomato. They got poked.

And I love it so much. I made it my background on my phone. So I don't know. Oh, that's a doubt. Yeah. Beautiful picture. Yeah. By the time you get home, switch that back to your kid.

But it is a cool photo. Can I ask a quick question about about the raccoon we looked at earlier? The Red Panda. Yes. Wait, so are they, there's only 4,000 of them left. So they were at a larger population before, and they are now going extinct or endangered? Do they know what happened to them?

Habitat loss, man. Is it these fucking muscle aids? Okay. It's just, yeah, no, that's a good guess. Is it these muscle aids that they're taking? No, it's all habitat loss. So you have this high, I mean, this is what's so crazy, man. is you're up there, you're in the Himalayas,

the high mountain Nepalese, like crazy habitat. You really wouldn't want to live in. It's cold. It's windy. It's wet. It's icy. And there are villages everywhere. Everywhere.

And it's not like Nepal doesn't feel like India where I am now, which really does feel like there's too many people, right? It doesn't feel that way. Like you go big swaths of land with nobody. But you have so many people covering over this area where the red panda are and they're they're farming cattle they're clearing it for agriculture they're building houses and so the red panda is not an animal that is you know they eat very specific fruits and leaves and it's very specific type of bamboo and you chop that down and they got nothing to let they got nothing left so

you look out and you're like oh my god there's all this rainforest and it's it's immaculate but most of it is secondary because a lot of the stuff has been cut down or harvested or whatever and then they can only really survive in this primary you know untouched area and that's getting pretty small. So it's definitely seems like it's bouncing back. It's going in the other direction. Guys like Shantanu, who I mentioned, are doing a phenomenal job at protecting it. It's actually interesting. I've been really eye-opened in this part of the world in this northeastern India-Napal area. It's like everything got pushed way too far and they're doing a good job pulling it back right now and it's really good to see. But anyway, yeah, it's just habitat loss is

a short answer, Peter. Interesting. Yeah. It's about, oh man, cattle farming. Shit. Makes me feel bad because I love beef and I eat it. But it's the best food, period. Real quickly here, just a quick divergence, and then I want to hear about what's going on with the tiger hunt because I know you're going out to look for tigers soon. But I do have a quick animal mystery I wanted to squeeze in this week.

Oh, I like that. Animal mystery. Kyle, get ready for the pick. So I sent Kyle this earlier privately. So, along with nudes. Let's say, I did. Well, yeah, it was. It's just a pick of pet stick.

All right. So in Cornwall, England, an unusual object ended up floating up to the beach, a beach called Marasione Beach. A woman who was walking her dog, she sees this object. That's where the mystery ends. And I want to ask the two of you. the layperson and the biologist. What could this be? I mean, they're describing it as alien sacks.

Alien sacks. Cornwall, England. This looks like some type of like coral reef or something. No, that's... Maybe a Thanksgiving board. What's this fucking... It does look like an awful deflated... Well, the dog is with the lady,

and she's the one who discovered it, so she gets the photo cred. Come on, boy. Okay. Okay. So before I saw the picture, I was thinking, Kyle, pull this up. Lizzie Daly has an incredible photo if you can't find it. I don't know the species. There is a giant, giant jellyfish off Cornwall, England. And before I saw the white glob, I was thinking that's what it is. But I haven't seen them in a long time. So maybe just, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go images. Yeah, that first photo is Lizzie's photo. She's a good friend. We should have her on the pod. Look at that thing. Yeah. Jellyfish. That's like a, that's. That's like a whole constant. That's a universe inside of a creature. Look at that.

Dude, our entire solar system is probably on the end of one of those tentacles on another planet. Where to God, it is. So that's what I was thinking, globular. But that doesn't go back to the other photo call? No, that's not lining up. Well, maybe like dried up, I guess. I don't know. The color's wrong, though.

You're going from like opaque. Yeah, go ahead. I got it. I'm sorry, I got it. Spilled paint. I don't mean to interrupt. This is the, semen of some type of whale.

Yeah, whale. I'm going to go whale semen. Final answer. I am going to go, Wally the Walrus. He was heavily featured on this pod. Was murdered. We actually know that.

And those are his intestines that have washed up on the beach in Cornwall. Oh my goodness. It looks like intestines to me. So let me tell you, So it is actually a bit of a mystery because I don't, I think as of today, so this happened about a week ago. They haven't definitively answered yet. But the theory is that it is the stomach of a whale of some kind.

They don't know what kind of whale. But here's where the mystery comes in. So I think that could be the stomach of a whale. The theory is that the whale maybe died and for some period of time was floating on the surface, which I'm not sure how that could have happened. I can explain that. Okay, so they do float for a bit? So if a whale dies and it's unpunctured, unruptured,

first of all, the blubber allows them to float, but then as they sit in the sun and they bake and they rot, the air expands within them. And so as long as their gut cavity isn't punctured, it actually makes them like a balloon, basically, and they'll stay on the surface. But usually a shark comes along or something like that and bites it,

and deflates it, and then they sink down to the bottom. Yeah. Interesting. So, oh, so the picture was captured. The tide came in before anyone came to study it, and so it washed away, so they weren't able to find it to study it. But the theory is that it's the stomach of a whale, but the reason it's mysterioso, is that typically when a whale floats ashore like that, or is floating on the surface,

So part of the theory is that seabirds came in, perched on it, started tearing at the flesh, whatever, maybe we're able to somehow open it up enough. But I found this to be interesting. When a whale or something is floating on the surface, the seabirds almost exclusively, I have no idea why, focus on the genital area and rarely tear at the stomach. They're not the only animal, too. It's fascinating. But it's interesting that seabirds finding a little free snack. eat the genitals of whatever is floating. Like, how do they even know?

Why are they doing? I'm guessing there's a couple factors there. I'm guessing one is the high mineral content, right? Because if you're getting a nut sack or something like that, you're getting a lot of nutrients. And delicious. Of course, real creamy. Let me pause. That's disgusting.

Let me ask a question real quick. How do they know that it has high minerals? It's not like they, I mean, like, they don't know. They're not smart enough to like. Peter, this is incredibly well known. Oh, you're saying how do the birds know? I'm sorry. They've read the literature, Peter.

That's what I'm saying. They know that the... They are pretty smart. The testicles are where the pee-pee gets held. That's right. No, no, this is a serious question. The urine is held in the balls. This is a serious question.

So how, like, I know evolutionarily speaking, animals can figure out without intelligently, consciously knowing how to do things over time. But, like, why would they know to go and get more minerals? Is it because they survive more often if they eat the genitals? Yeah, yes. It's not like a human being, which is going, oh, I need to eat liver or kidney or whatever because I need iron and I need that.

It's more like hungry, this is what I, this is best food. You know what I mean? It's like an instinctual. I don't think it's the most satiating. I think it's like you having a craving for peanut butter and they're like, I got to get me some nuts, you know. Dude, cravings are weird as fuck. That's true. And I think that's basic.

I don't know. I mean, I'd have to have to try and talk to a Seagull. No, no, no, no. That's true. It makes sense, though. I think that's what it is. And then I think about like, oh, yeah, like, I've had a craving. I know exactly what that means.

Right. And nothing will satiate it. Yeah, that's a craving for dick. Yeah. And nothing will satiate it until you get that. You know what I mean? Until you get that dick. I think that's sort of what happens here.

Yeah. That's pretty cool, though. I think if I was that lady I walked upon that, I would have taken the photo, probably brought it into FaceTune, altered it a bit, and sent it to some alien conspiracy Reddit, is what I would know. And then I would be the one bringing it up on the podcast. That's right. Yeah, that's right.

We go full circle. Yeah. That's wild, though. So for us, tell us next phase of the trip. Also, you didn't even mention that you were going to Nepal. So when you texted me from Nepal, I was like, yeah, didn't mention that. It shows how much guys talk to each other. Yeah.

So what's the next phase? You're going to see some Tag airs? Yeah, so that was in Singalila. That was the name of the national park in Nepal. I'm now in Assam, in India, in northwest India at, Jesus, all these names are escaping me today. Another national park. It's a lot.

Yeah, I'm at another national park. And so we've done, you know, my mom's where I get it from, right? We do this like bucket list of things you have to see. So on the list was Red Panda. On my mom's list was Indian One Horde Rhino, which is where we are now. Jesus, how am I blanking on this? Doesn't matter.

That's where you sent. You sent some of the rhino picks, right? I saw a couple of the rhino picks. I'll send some to Kyle right now. I got a couple. There's a couple of great ones on my Instagram as well of a couple buddies. Oh, my goodness. As if Kyle wasn't ready.

By the way, our 17-year-old producer, Kyle. He's 21. He sent me a copy of his birth certificate just now. He's 17. Just now. Dude, look at these. Are these Indian rhinos smaller than African rhinos? They sure look like it.

A little bit. I wouldn't say they're substantially smaller. But they are, they definitely seem a little bit smaller. But they're much more alien, like with their armoring. Dude, the armoring. You sent me, you sent me a picture of this and I just texted back. Well, that's definitely what I'm using in the next Battle Royale. It doesn't matter what it is.

I mean, like, let me see, you could probably shoot a 50 caliber around at it and it, and it wouldn't go through. bounce off. It's got fucking dude. Is this rhino? Is this rhino like simpatico with this water buffalo? Dude, so this was so cool. So Kuzaringa is where we are now. The goal, it would be great to see a tiger.

There are a couple here, but rhino was the goal. Also not a lot of them left. About 20,000 total. But that's way better than it was 10 years ago. Anyway, came here to look for rhino, found him immediately. It's incredible. By the way, anybody that wants an unbelievable wildlife experience,

Kaziringa National Park in India, unbelievable. Saw four of the Big Five, Indian Big Five, in the first hour of going into the park. I mean, it's just unbelievable. What are the Big Five? What did you see? The Indian Big Five are water buffalo,

rhino, elephant, swamp deer, and tiger. And so we've seen the four, but not the tiger yet. And it's just, there's, it's interesting because I never really thought there were places like Southern Africa where I grew up,

where you look out over a valley and you see 500 to 1,000 animals. And that's here. Like you'll go up over a ridge and look out, and there's 70 rhino, there's a herd of elephant, there's a thousand hog deer, there's a couple hundred swamp deer.

There's all these macaques and there's wild boar and it's just absolutely incredible. So yeah, so we came here for that. We've seen tiger tracks. We've been getting the rhino. I just texted Kyle a couple of picks. And then literally day one afternoon one, where I'm sitting there, I'm photographing that big bull rhino with that really impressive horn.

By the way, unicornis is the Latin name. It is the only real unicorn in the world, which is incredible. And sure enough, this brazen water buffalo comes charging out of the bushes, walks right at the rhino. And there's one of those pictures where they're kind of look like they're nuzzling each other, like they're nosing at each other. They're not really. The rhino was actually getting a little bit, a little bit annoyed by him right there. Like if you zoom in, Kyle, they look.

looked like they're giving each other a nice kiss, right? Like, hi, buddy. It looks like there are a couple. Totally, yeah, totally. That's crazy, man. And they're not. The rhino is actually getting a little agitated and the buffalo is sort of putting his head down like, come at me, boy.

And yeah, I just got the sequence of shots. And even our guide was like, that's very rare. That's very rare. Like, you never see that. And it was just really cool to have these two together. What do you think the water, what was the water buffalo doing? Just territorial? I think he was just cruising through.

know they're pretty transient and he was just like yep this is the way i'm going and i'm not scared to you and and there is a very much more so than in africa i think there's a very fuck you attitude from the animals here that i i really resonate with it's just fantastic and they're just like yeah yeah he does but they're just like it's really interesting because i think it's one of the reasons that led to the demise of the the rhino here white rhino black rhino in africa they're scary whatever but they're skittish you know and they'll charge you if they're terrified but if you're trampling through the bush, they're taking off. These guys are sort of just sitting there looking at you, like, come on over.

You know, like I would love to see you come on over. And everything, the water buffalo, the rhino, the elephant, they all sort of seem to have that nice attitude here. And they're kind of just standing off with each other. So I think that's what happened there with those two. And it's just fantastic, man. We saw, we saw Ganges River Dolphin, a bunch of turtle species, which I love. Buffalo is incredibly rare sighting.

I saw a leopard cat. I even got a photo of it. It's just been, yeah, thanks, Kyle. There's my left cat photo. Is that your pick? That's crazy. That's my pick, yeah. Yeah, nice camera work.

Soft focus, but still nice. I'll take it. No, it's beautiful. It's hard, man. Who wins? Who wins Water Buffalo versus Rino? Rino for sure. No question.

Yeah? They're stronger. They got all that armor. They're lower to the ground. So I want to ask you this because you have lulled me into total complacency many, many times on foot, on kayak, on paddleboard around water buffaloes, especially in Vietnam, I remember. This is true. They're just everywhere. And you're like, yeah, don't worry, don't worry.

And sure, of course, they're not a predator, you know, but if they're territorial, whatever, they're willing to go nose to nose with a rhino. But there's something interesting about the way their horns kind of go straight up and then hook in to the sharp point. How do they use that? Like, do they swing from the side? Yeah, exactly. Like those horns almost look ineffective. Okay. No, yeah, no, not at all.

And I think the reason I've always sort of lulled you into complacency with them is because most of the time we've been around very habituated ones or semi-domesticated ones. Because they are a domesticated animal, water buffalo throughout most of Asia. These ones are not. These are wild water buffalo. And our guide is even like, yeah, no, they'll charge the car. Like, they're not, there can be pretty nasty. So there's obviously something about, you know, a couple generations of domesticating them that changes that temperament, unlike certain creatures. But yeah, no, they put their head down.

They've got these big curved horns and they just, they sort of, you know, tilt and turn. And, you know, the horns are, that's a wrong kind of buffalo, you doofus. Was that the one from Vietnam? Tape an Asian water buffalo. that's true yeah for a 14 year old he's really getting it he's gonna be down to seven by the end of this

yeah there you go that's a good one Kyle thank you um but yeah so they you know there's a pretty good spread and keep in mind while the horns are used for you know fighting and for territorial displays and whatnot it's it's really more

of a sexual selection thing right it's like who's got the big horns who am I going to mate with oh that guy that gal. And that's really why rhinos use them for more than anything. I mean, rhinos use them for defense, of course, but all similar. Where the longer and the bigger

the horn, the better the chance of mating. I remember in high school. Think about if that was humans. I remember being in high school. Yeah, I was always saying that. I'd be like, yeah, you know, imagine if your dick was on your forehead and you just picked, you just picked two you liked. I even wrote that in a paper once that didn't do very well.

Well, here's the thing. You would be in a lot more dick jousts if that was the case. even if you're, you know, like if you, if it was just overtly your dick size on your head, you would be angry all the time if you had a small dick. You would be picking fights constantly. Or anything but the largest one. Like it doesn't matter anything but the top 2%. Whatever human said, okay, man, you're going to wear pants was a genius.

See, that's why I like how big horn sheep. Like, you know, like big horn sheep, right? Like, they fight every year for mating rights, every breeding season. Yep. But it's not simply the size of the horns. They fight it out. And so if you're small and nasty boy, you can win. You can do it.

Right. You can overcome it. Yeah. Of course. But I think, you know, I think there's a, let's bring this back to forehead cocks here. All right. Let's bring this back to forehead cox here for a second. All right.

I think the question is it's like, it's like a varying scale, right? So let's say we all have our dicks on our foreheads. You go to the bar. Inevitably, you don't have the biggest, biggest, you know, cocked forehead. Right. So none of us went to the bar. Right. We stayed in and played video games.

We all stayed in. So you see the guy who does have the biggest dick forehead. And you're like, fuck that guy. I hate that guy. Just on principle. Right? Had a few cocktails. A hundred percent.

Order a whole bottle of Malone. Bash it over his head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now the question is, who wins? Like, if you're the girl, and of course, females in this hypothetical don't have dick foreheads or anything reminiscent of that. And you're looking at all these guys in the bar, you're weighing your options. You're going, who do I want to reproduce with? Is it the guy with the biggest dick forehead who's obviously the good choice or the Patrick character over here who's got a micropeony on his forehead, but he's going to whip the shit out of a big guy in the corner over there?

You know, like, it's a varying scale. And I don't think the only guy who's really losing is the tiny forehead dick guy who's not socializing who's in the corner and won't pick a fight. Like, he's the guy's humble by it. He's just hanging out with his guy, his guy buddies in the in the corner at the table. They're having a guy's name. Yeah. And they're all together and they're not socializing. Every weekend.

Yeah. That's why. Do we want beanies in this situation? I'm curious. Yes. One hundred percent. Beanies were invented before pants in this situation. Yeah. But is that the case? If humans evolve for head penis, is it pure beanie?

I've spent time on safari in Africa and you do see that oftentimes the male rhinos with the smaller horns have the nicest accessories to sort of show off their wealth and, you know. I mean, you're definitely trying to talk yourself up in this analogy. That's why I have nice shoes. They have Ferraris. I will say this, though. The thing is, is that I have pools. Humans have evolved enough. The humans have evolved enough. I think the females have evolved enough to understand that it's not the Pat with the biggest dick. I totally disagree with you.

Who gets by? They're not looking for the biggest dick. No way, dude. Because they just go right down your pants immediately. No way, bro. They're looking for other accessories, as Pat said. The dick has just changed. It's not actually about this podcast getting way off the rails.

We're sticking to it. We're bearing our heels in here. Yeah. It's not about... You're in India. Peter, the dick has changed. That's what you're not getting. It's not, the dick is no longer your actual ability to sexually reproduce.

Because everybody can reproduce now because of modern medicine. Instead, your dick is what kind of life can you provide for your mate? It might be money. It might be happiness. It might be. But it wasn't that what the dick originally is in the animals? That's what he's saying. That's what I'm saying.

In the rhinos, it's simply, can you reproduce yes or no? And can you, are you strong? Will you produce a good offspring? A big strong offering of the big horn? Is the question if humans evolved with the dick on the forehead, would it not matter as much about that's sharp tongue? In 2022, it has changed because what helps you produce good offspring has changed. Right. That's what I said.

Exactly. Yeah. Right. So apes, as apes were beginning to evolve into humans, still size and physical strength and ability to provide. He read one book, The Naked Ape and thinks he has everything about how humans evolve. You are, how many have you had? He's doing a day, sir. I've had two very stiff cocktails.

How many horntails have you had? Pat, the more you talk, the more everybody just wonders why you're defending the small dick species. It doesn't matter. Peter. I'm fucking in my 40s. The time that I cared about that was two years ago. Now he's getting violently defensive. Two years ago. Two years.

Two, four years. Pre-marriage, pre-baby. You just want to keep saying the word dick, which is why you keep doing this. It's not true. It's not true. I've always been proud of my average-sized penis. I'm sorry, Mom. No one believes that.

Yeah, I'm sorry to For us, Mom. Because in six and a half years, she'll get to this podcast. and poke Forrest in the shoulder on the way to Antarctica. And she'll know that his podcast co-host, Retep, has an average 5.75 inch penile. Well, with your gut, it only appears to be two. Listen, that's how I control the length is by my gut. Forrest, so back on tracks. So you've seen Tiger tracks.

I got to say, do you get any pictures of the Tiger tracks? I did. They're on my camera still. Let me see if I got one. I might have taken on my phone. So what's the next step? Well, we're here in Kazer-I-N-N-A-N-N-N-A-N-N-A-N-N-A-N-N-E-N-E-N-E-H-R-I-R-I-A-L. Once we're done here, we're going to Shambal-R-A-L to look for Gariel, which is number one on my bucket list probably ever. What's that? And if you don't know what a Gar-E-L is, G-H-H-I-L, before we pull it up. before we pull it up Peter what do you think it is

well I'm thinking immediately I'm thinking like a version of Garfield but more fit same stripes same orange color same diet definitely cat yeah

yeah a lasagna loving kitty of well now you're going a little out there mate I'm just saying right now Kyle behind the scenes he's typing so fast trying to figure out how to spell Gariel that his keyboard

on smoking spot on look at this This is the perfect gharial. Yeah, it's a lasagna eating orange striped cat. Wow, look at the eyes on that thing. Blue. Isn't a crazy animal? So the name gariol comes from a type.

Oh, Kyle, go under the main photo, two over. Under the main photo. So those listening, it is not a cat. It is some type of crocodilian. Yeah, that's a guy. Yep. Click that one. So the name garyl comes from this bulbous thing.

The males get on the end of their snout. A gharial is a type of Indian pot that they use to cook their breads, I believe. and so it looks like that pot on their snout. Anyway, we go from here to Shambal to see Gariel. Hopefully we'll succeed. I'm desperate to see one, play with one. I'm sure I'm not going to get to play with one, and I'm going to try.

You see those teeth? Not a good idea, I made. That's why I want to. And then from there, we go to a place called Nagara Hole, which, Kyle, you can pull up if you'd like as well. And by the time we do this next pod, I'll be able to check in on those two. But the object in Nagarholay,

one is it's one of the only places in the world that has resident black panthers, black leopards. So hoping to see one of those. And two, the tiger sightings are, they're certainly not guaranteed, but they're very, very high. So that's really the... Gotcha.

That was what we talked about before, right? That's where it's a very high density of tigers. Exactly. Each spot has its own sort of target creature. And while we can see anything anywhere, the objectives are, you know, panda, rhino, garriel, tiger in the relative locations. Have you had any good,

Indian food yet? Have you had like a really fine, like a nice meal of Indian food or street food? Can I tell you what the best thing about Indian food is? Yes. Besides the deliciousness, sure. It is. The second part of that is when you're walking down the street and you sneeze or cough, you're not sure if you're going to shit your pants the entire time you're in India. It's just like anything. You're like hit a speed bump. You're like, oh, there it is. There it is. Hold on. Okay, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. By the way, it's the same if you order it, so it doesn't, you don't have to be an Indian for that experience.

That's true. I've had some very good food. It's a lot, as you know, I mean, it's like what you have at home, right? There's a lot of diversity within India itself, but just so much spices and flavors and crazy smells. And they do a phenomenal job of making vegetables not taste like vegetables, which is probably my favorite part of India. food. And yeah, it's great going in. It is not great coming out. What are you going to do? What are you going to do when you, what's the first thing you're going to do when you get back to the States?

It's coming, man. I actually have a Sunday night chills, the anxiety. I have a haircut. I have a haircut. I've booked. Yeah. My hair's getting very long. I don't have anything good. I'm not like desperate for a burger or like, oh, I can't wait to get home and sleep in my bed. It's not like that. I'm on a pretty comfy trip with my mom. Doesn't want to see his kid, doesn't care care of it. Do you know what the number one restaurant in India is? I do not. Pizza Hut. Do you know? Offly close. Taco Bell. It's Domino's. Domino's. Yeah. I see a lot. Very close. Yeah, so they serve, like, their pizzas are like Indian food infused. So, like, you get, like, the thin crust pizza with, like, teakamas on it.

stuff like that. And they, Domino's as a multinational corporation, got a new CEO like five, six years ago and we're like, we're targeting India because they got the mobile app down. Right. They fucking were like one of the first to market with like a perfectly functioning mobile app. And India has over a million people turn 18 every month. Wow. That is wild. And so they were like, young people order food on their phones. We're going to target India. And they just made a huge push to open tons of Domino's franchises in India and became the number one restaurant in India. So I'd like you for us to order a Domino's pizza while you're there,

take a picture of it, document the experience. I'm a Domino's shareholder. I'd like to know about it, how it's called. Are you actually a Domino's shareholder? I know you love Domino's people. I saw that I was in a phase where I was watching CNBC on, while I would work, I'd just have it on. And I saw the CEO interviewed, like maybe, yeah,

it was like right before, It was like as they were rolling the shit out. And I was like, that sounds really smart. And so I bought some shares of Domino's stock. Nice. And it's up like 350% since I bought it. It's been great. How much did you buy?

How many shares? Not that many, probably like 20. Why didn't you tell me? Fuck you. All right. That's why he wants to know. He wants you to share your shares. Yeah.

How often, and this is the worst part about having like Robin Hood or those apps, do you just impulse buy a stock? I do it all the time. Do you really? No, I stopped doing that a while ago. I mostly let someone else do it. And so now I have to, now I have to like really believe in something to, like, call him. All his impulse gambling goes to like draft kings. Yeah, draft kings. Yeah. Exactly. No, I will like, like the other day, like three or four nights ago, I was lying in bed and I read, you know, Tesla at a 52 week low. Literally, without even looking at the price of it, I put $200 in Tesla stock.

First time ever. I was just like, need it, need it. And then I was like, why did I do that? It might just keep going down. Like, why did I do? Like, two minutes went by, and I was like, that was not the right way to do that. Yeah. It depressed. So I subscribe to. So I listened to an audio book.

This is for the young Brosners. I listened to an audio book by Jim Kramer, the guy who does mad money on CNBC. Yeah. And he had a good piece of advice. He said, if you're trading for yourself, you should only own five stocks at most. And you should only own those five stocks if you can spend one hour, per week reading about each stock. So he said, if you want to trade for yourself, you need to have five hours a week to read about your stocks and you need to spend an hour on each and don't on more than

five. And I was like, that's crazy, that's boring. I'm out. Right. And so I just let someone else do it who does all that stuff. And you pay them like one percent a year to do it. And it ends up being way better than our crazy impulse buys or our common sense buys of, I use an Apple laptop and an iPhone, I'm just going to put everything in Apple or I order my Christmas presents on Amazon. Right, exactly. So, but I will say this, Peter, back when I was trading for myself, told me to buy a stock called Shopify. I did.

I didn't do it because I didn't think he knew what he was talking about. He was probably drunk because it was very late. Now, it wasn't. We were on a beach bike ride down in the South Carolina. shit. That's when you made fun of my sweatpants. It's the same day. It's gone up like a thousand percent since and I didn't take advantage and I think of it every

time I see Shopify's stock quote. I'm like, should have listened to Retep. He knows online marketing and fuck. He does. It's true. That's why I didn't buy either, mate. Don't feel bad. The world over. All right, guys. Well, it is seven minutes. Bye-bye.

I'm going to let you go. But what are you doing today? Because it's 11 a.m. there, right? It's nearly one. I'm going to grab a quick bite of lunch and at 1.30. We're heading back into the park for our last afternoon of tracking Rhino, which I'm hoping to get some more shots. I'm really enjoying this photography thing. I might never give JQ his camera back or I might just go get my own camera.

I've never owned a real camera. That camera literally just takes good pictures without any effort, doesn't it? Yep, that's how cameras work. With the lens, I saw that lens. I saw you with that lens and that camera. Very little work goes into making a camera. with that lens, fucking take a good picture. I will say this for us.

Look at them. Check out, and I'll take you. Let's make plans to go this year to the, so the Natural History Museum in L.A. every year hosts the wildlife photography of the year exhibit. And it's awesome. So they take the photos. They put them on this light box so that it's lit from behind in a pitch black room otherwise. And they're stunning.

And you go and it tells you the lens, the camera. and you just look at how they, a little blurb about how they took it. And it's really makes you want to just like quit everything you're doing and fucking just become a wild-maned photographer. What? How are you snoozing on that? That's like the coolest thing ever.

Like I couldn't imagine a better day than a man date with Pat looking at pretty well. I fell asleep and so did all of our listeners. However, we didn't do a battle royale. That's unfortunate. Okay. I got to go. Next time, here's what happened.

Peter got drunk and nasty. If you hate the bad. I didn't get nasty. I love all of you, right? You're being over since. You say yes and. What does that mean? Yes and what?

Exactly. I'm out. I literally let you speak. I said yes and what and snored through it. Nobody listens us where everybody signs off to do the thing. It was nonsense. Nobody does that. Go to the wild times.com.

No, that's not true. Go to what? What? It's my last one. Wildtimes. com, club, forward slash info for all the links to everything. at Wild Times Pod on all the socials to find us. Go to Spotify.

Find all of our podcasts there. You can sign up and get all of the premium pods there now. I'll kill you. I'm trying to make us fucking money. You did it to me first. No, this is about business. Your bullshit was about some fucking nonsense. We could have stopped recording like three minutes ago.

Well, they're missing out then because there's a big argument going on right now. I'm excited for us to go to the thing with you, the museum. We'll have a fun day. We'll get coffee. We're not going to invite Peter. Take pictures. I don't know. Let's get coffees.

It won't be the first. Some of your bullshit nonsense, garbage. All right. So, Wild Times. Dot club forward slash info for all the links to everything. Go to bromunity. Dot wild times.

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