Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Forrest Galante on Dingo Dinkelman's Death - TWT 161

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wild Times. Hell is. Woo! Wild Times. Regular pod. I was going to say bonus pod. No. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:00:10 Do we still do intros? I don't think so. Well, yeah. I mean, come on. It's a public. We got some new listeners. Come on. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:00:15 Who am I? What are we doing? Real quick, real quick. Wow. I'm your host, For Scalante, the broologist. On my right is Papa P himself, the pen pusher, the knee tapper. You name it. He is the broducer.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Patrick Deluca. Hi. That's good. He's looking cozy today. That's a nice sweater. Yeah. Thanks. I love it.
Starting point is 00:00:34 And then in the tropical floral Hawaiian on the far right, PhD in podcasting, the guy who I thought was a small Indian man, Mr. Ritap. Missing the sunshine today. So I figured I'd bring some into the stewed. That's smart. That's right. So I notice you're a wife beater under a floral shirt guy. It's because I sweat even when it's 10 degrees out. Is that why?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yes, dude. Yes. I swear to God, I've never worn a wife beater under a shirt in my life. So I don't know. Just full open button hair out, exposed wear wolf style. Yeah. I'm so old that it was considered. He wears a tea.
Starting point is 00:01:08 It was a shirt under. I don't. That's insane. No one. It was most of the fraternity parties that I attended this, you just wore. Just the wife. I remember that look. Yeah, that was, that's how old I am.
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Starting point is 00:02:26 And Brian Callan. And I'm Brian. They're good guys. We hung out. They had a good hour chatting on the couch. Okay. They're going to come to Santa Barbara
Starting point is 00:02:34 go see sharks. Nice. They want to do it. Nice. How's a how's Shob and person? Great. Funny, cool, laid back,
Starting point is 00:02:41 very, very knowledgeable. Yeah. You know, he's like, so you're from Africa? Is that right? I was like, yeah, Zimbabwe. He's like, oh, man, Maggi regime.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I was like, nobody knows that. That's pretty good. What's that? I don't know that. Exactly. What is it? The reason that I'm in the USA. You guys had to flee.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I knew that. Right, because of the president, Robert Mugabe. What did he do? And his political party, the Zanupf party. Just trying to fucking destroy everything? No, they just, they did a land grab, or land reform, as it was called, where they came and took all the farmers land away. And then they did it forcefully and through violence.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Oh, man. And so he was like, very knowledgeable about it. I was like, how do you know this? Because he does research probably. No, I don't think so. I think he's just more educated than your average person. Oh, dude, you might be able to get compensated for that land seizure. That's all bullshit.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I mean, I still have the. piece of paper that has the farm in my name that means literally nothing. Oh, man. That's brute, man. And you forged through, you've made your way onto this podcast. Oh, dude, I love where I live. I love everything. Everything's great.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Did they make fun of you on the? Because they make fun of their guests a lot. Did they make any jokes at your expense? If they did, they were right over my head. But no, I didn't get that at all. We just chatted. They had some, they were interested in like certain wildlife aspects. And, you know, had some like, we talked about snake bite.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I don't know if you guys saw this or not. but we talked about Dingo Dinkleman's passing. I wanted to ask you about this. Yeah. Go ahead. Set it up. So simply put, if you're watching this pod, you may already know who Dingo Dinklman.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Who Dingo Dinkleman was. Good friend of the pod. We've had him on the Wild Times Live before. He has a beautiful wife and family. And he's an incredible educator and Snakeman. And unfortunately, he got bitten by a green mamba. And I've actually been told that the video where he's bitten is on the internet still.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Oh, wow. I haven't sought it out. But yeah, unfortunately, he was bitten by a green mamba, which you can survive from. You know, your odds are not great. But if treated in time, you can't survive from. However, Dingo had an allergy to mamba venom and snake venom in general, I believe. And so he was bitten. He was put into an induced coma for a month.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And sadly, after a month, he passed away. So, and this was a mamba that was at his house or that I guess was frequently featured in his videos? I think so. You know, he was in the process of building a zoo. And it was very cool because he's very, you know, like a lot of these guys, like very animal forward, like cares about their welfare, cares about education, like all the good things. You know, he was one of the good ones for sure. And so I believe it was one of his pet mambas that was going to go into the zoo. And yeah, got it.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Do you have any indication of how, what happened that he got tagged? Or is it just if you handle snakes, even if you're really good at it, you might get tagged? At the end of the day, if you're working. with elapids, like the really fast snakes, you're working with things like mambas, cobras, any of those things. Like, anybody can handle, I mean, how many times have you seen me handle a cotton mouth or a rattlesnake? Many.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Many. You just sort of pick them up, like it's not that hard. Right. But these things are lightning, right? Like, these mambas are so fast and they're so, I mean, yeah, you can probably see here, the speed at which, like, look at that. Oh, my goodness. Like, you'll never see a rattlesnake move like that.
Starting point is 00:05:49 That's crazy. So here, you know, they're, uh, yeah. So, I mean, there's a green mamba. right there. But, you know, the speed at which these animals move is unbelievable. And in my opinion, and this is not a dig-a-dingo, because I love the man, but anybody that handles these snakes long enough without, and here he's using hooks and a glove, so this is not, this is an exception. But without protection is going to get bitten. It's just a matter of time. Too quick. Yeah, I was curious. Look at the speed. This thing moves. Yeah, oh, man. Oh, my God. And then you
Starting point is 00:06:20 great. You look at that. It nearly got him right there. Yikes, man. And that's a black mama right there. What's more deadly? The black or the green? The black is more potent. So I was curious because I was explaining to my wife that this happened and, you know, that he was on the show and it's such a nice guy. We hung out with him at AnimalCon. But I was wondering, like, does this give you this happening to someone you know who's very skilled?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Does it like make you take things into account now you've got two kids? like, you know. We talked about that on Fighter and the Kid as well. It doesn't because I don't do this. Like, yes, I will catch a snake. I'll catch a cobra, whatever. But these guys, you know, dingo and the list goes on and on. We've interviewed many of them.
Starting point is 00:07:05 They spend their life with these venomous animals. Like their likelihood, it's like being like, oh, are you scared of getting struck by lightning? No, I'm not because I don't go outside with a metal rod on top of a mountain during a lightning storm. That's what these guys are doing. You literally almost got struck by lightning. One time. But it doesn't change what I do because I think the calculated risks that I take are not the same as these.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That being said, I'm not as skilled as this. But I mean, literally in this video alone, we've seen dingo almost get bitten three times. Right. You know, which is great for entertainment value and to get views and everything else. But it's just, it's not what I do and it's not what I want to do. Is there a way to know if you're allergic to snake venom without getting bit? Probably not, right? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I was trying to explain this the other day to somebody. It's like a bee sting. it's not that I mean it's much more potent than a bee sting but every single person in the world reacts differently to a bee sting no two people react the same I got stung by a bee last week I don't know if you can see it anymore it's still itchy it's been like a week I didn't have a big flare up it didn't get puffy I didn't get close throat or any of that stuff it's just it's been itchy for a week so I know that venom is still in my arm a little bit you know and I get in the shower I turn on to all the way hot and it's like the relief from the itch starting to fade now but you know what I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah, like a poison ivy hot shower. Totally. It feels so good. But that same bee could have stung you or Peter and you both would have felt completely different. The weird thing with allergies, too, is that your body can develop an allergy to something you've never been allergic to just because. Randomly.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah. Yeah. I think with a lot of these guys that handle these snakes, including dingo, I remember talking to him, an animal con, you know, their purpose is to show that, yes, the animals, they are dangerous, but they are beautiful, and that you shouldn't necessarily be afraid of them. And it's almost like, well, I'm fucking scared of green mambas now. I would never want to go here.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The rabbit hole, it's the same thing that, like, I think Coyote has fallen into is you want to educate millions of people. You want millions of people to see and go, oh my God, that black mom is beautiful, that green mom is beautiful, whatever. But in order to get that viewership, you have to push the envelope so far. And you have to do it over and over and over. And when you keep pushing the envelope, something bad is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And I don't want to downplay this on Dingo. I really like Dingo. I thought he's a wonderful person. He has the most beautiful family. But just like all these other guys, they have to do pretty extreme, pretty narrow mist-type things to get the viewership to then communicate their message. And when you're doing that over and over, like you're prompting an accident. You think you'll ever get there?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Me? Like if your YouTube channel starts tanking? I don't think so because it doesn't interest me. Right. I love a beautiful venomous snake, but I don't have a desire to make it almost bite me. Like, you know, and do that whole thing. Like we've had close-ish calls, I would say, like on extinct with the cobra and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:06 But there was never a point at which its mouth was two inches from getting me. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's spit venom at me or we throw a shirt over it or we grab it, whatever. But it's more like this part of what you're seeing on screen here. versus the part where you're holding it presenting to the camera almost getting bitten. I'd love to hear what the brosters think about just this. And I mean, just if you want to express your,
Starting point is 00:10:27 you know, condolences to dingo. Drop it in the comments, man. I'm sure everybody I've, like everybody in our circle has hit me up on Instagram. It's been all over my Instagram. It's sad.
Starting point is 00:10:38 You know, and what do you think, man? I mean, this is kind of the reality. Like you have guys that go out and do this dangerous kind of stuff. I mean, it's entertaining.
Starting point is 00:10:47 yes, but should they be doing it? I don't know. They know what they're doing to these guys, and they know that an accident can happen. Yeah. The fact that it was an allergy is the reason that he passed away. Not, you know, of course the bite, but it's the allergy is what killed him. Yeah. I think, you know, my two cents on it, last thing I'll say on this, if you're going to be an animal educator, figure out a niche or a way to do it without doing this constantly. I'm not saying don't do it once in a while. There's always an exception, myself included, where you're like, okay, I got to grab the snake, I got to catch this crock, whatever, it's a risk. Yeah. But if you're taking risks daily for YouTube views, you're putting yourself in a bad
Starting point is 00:11:26 situation because you're also not paying attention to the animal. You're thinking about the YouTube views and you're thinking about the camera and all of that. Just find another way. Well, it's crazy to how the more you do something and don't get injured, the less safe and the less you think about the safety precautions that you have been thinking about. Like, I always think about this moment where, where,
Starting point is 00:11:50 when I was filming the thing with BTG in Alaska. The bear thing. Yeah. And, you know, we had sort of safety precautions in place. And one of the things is just be loud, be talking when you're hiking through.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah. You know, and, yeah, just so that the bear, you don't surprise a bear. Right. And just thinking of like,
Starting point is 00:12:09 day one, me getting there. I had my bear spray in my holster and I was very aware of what was going on and just playing music on my phone or whatever just to like alert, you know, doing all the stuff you're supposed to do
Starting point is 00:12:21 and pretty scared. Yeah. And then like there was a piece of equipment that was back in the car and I was like, I'll go get it because other people, you know, camera team was working, whatever. This was like day 13 and just like walked through a Bairden.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Right. Just because I hadn't gotten hurt yet. I was like 13 days in, I'm already doing stupid shit. The complacency kicks in. Yeah. Like reading it. text on my phone or checking a football score.
Starting point is 00:12:44 It doesn't matter who you are. That happens. I swear to God, it doesn't matter who you are. You become jaded or complacent. You're like, ah, everything's fine. I've been through it. My nerves are settled. And that's when accidents happen.
Starting point is 00:12:56 100% man. Kyle, it's time. What's in the news? So I find this to be fascinating. This is a two-part headline. Okay. It says, meet the world's oldest. crocodile alive since 1900. Oh, wow. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. That is very old. But
Starting point is 00:13:19 124. He's also a father to over 10,000 offspring. Is his name Usher? Oh, oh nice. Lawsuit. Your joke was better than mine. Lawsuit waiting to happen. Usher's got several kids, that's all I'm saying. Is it Usher? No, it's the other guy. The guy from the banging the drum movie. Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon, thank you. Oh, he's the one. He's the one. Cut this all out. No, it's very funny. Leave it. Henry, the world's oldest Nile crocodile, was born in 1900 and will turn 124 on December 16th. Wow. He was captured in Botswana in 1985 because he was attacking livestock and children.
Starting point is 00:14:00 But he now lives at Crockworld Conservation Center in South Africa and his fathered over 10,000 offspring during his long life. How do they know when he was born, but they caught him from the wild after he was already attacking people? When you cut them open, you can tell by the circles. The rings, the rings, of course. Yeah, how do you tell how old a crock is? Not like that. Probably by their teeth, maybe. Maybe something in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:14:22 They lose their teeth and grow new ones. I guess just size and weight, I really don't know. There's got to be a whole science behind aging crocodiles. What's like an average crocodile lifespan? Like 100 years. Yeah, 70 to 100. Oh, wow. So he's doing real well.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah. But in captivity, their life's easy. Yeah. Also, I don't know how they need. know that he's had 10,000 children, but how to, let me ask a really dumb question. How to, how to tell me a little bit about crocodile reproduction. Is it spawning? No, I mean, they may, they reproduce. There's, there's insertion and everything else. And then the female lays eggs a sandy bank, a lot of them. Yeah. And then crocodiles are cool because the gender of the baby is
Starting point is 00:15:05 dependent on the environment. How so? Warm cold. Oh, that's right. Temperature. 100%. Yeah. That's Alligators too. Yeah. So if it gets too hot, they turn male. If it's too cold, they turn female. And the way that evolution has designed that is so because they lay them in a big clump, right, the exterior, which will heat more and cool more develops males and the interior, which stays more thermoregulated because the insulation of the other eggs develops females.
Starting point is 00:15:31 The problem is, as global temperatures change or crocodiles expand their ranges or whatever, it gets so hot that they all go male or so cold that they all go female. Fascinating, man. The animal world never ceases to amaze me. There's always, always a new fact to learn. I'm sure that's where
Starting point is 00:15:48 I'm sure you guys have heard this like, you know, if you want to have a boy, have sex in a hot tub with your wife or like some of those old wives tales, I'm sure it comes from that. I was with conservation scientist in the Everglades last year,
Starting point is 00:16:04 and that was one of the things they were trying to decide if they were going to do, I think because it was, has it been so hot that they were only seeing male offspring. And it's been a few years now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And so they were making plans to, like, potentially try and relocate some eggs. Bring female eggs in or female. Yeah, like, cool them down or something. Go hatch females and bring them back. Yeah, exactly. But he was like, yeah, it's been, I can't remember if it was like three or five years,
Starting point is 00:16:28 but it was almost exclusively males. Yeah. That were being born. Which is obviously a problem. You know, it'll catch up. Yeah. Yeah. Everything's fucked.
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Starting point is 00:22:12 I mean, that is an old, that is an old crocodile. 120, what do we say, 124 years? Yeah. Yeah, 124 years. I better leave another 20 or so. Cheers. I am doing this. I have a Yosemite doc that's dropping in February.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Oh, cool. They have a release day for it. Yeah. Nice. There'll be a Super Bowl commercial, which I filmed when I was up there shooting while you guys were at AnimalCon. And then it'll drop. And just a fact that I learned that was fascinating just about longevity. We all know the Sequoia is the biggest tree on earth.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah. I think the longest living individual tree, I'm pretty sure. The Joshua tree is the longest living tree, isn't it? No, I think it's got to be Sequoia. We're not the bristlecone. Oh, bristlecone pine, you're right. Bristlecone pine, not Joshua tree. That's an idiotic thing.
Starting point is 00:23:01 There's a sequoia in Yosemite called the self-deprecate more. Called the grizzly giant. It's over 3,000 years old. Wow. But what's kind of interesting is that... Oh, I've seen this tree. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:16 That's called a cat scar. What's that? Lightning? Fire. Fire. Yeah, fire scars. It's part of the life cycle of the sequoia is fire. What happens with that? How does that work?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Well, the cones, so the cones hang on for a long time on a sequoia, right? they'll stay up on the branches for like 20, 25 years. Oh, wow. And then they drop to the ground, but it's heat from fire or like extreme period of heat and drought that causes them to open and release the seed. Okay. From the stress. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And then it also burns down like competing pine trees so that more sunlight can get down through the canopy and burns off woody debris so that they can reach the nutrient rich soil and whatnot. Very cool. But what I found to be interesting is that like the reason, The coias are so big is because they live so long. It's just a slow burn. Like after a year, they're still only nine inches tall.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's the same with everything. The same reason Greenland sharks get 20 feet long. It's because it takes them 20 years to hit maturity. All these large things are long live. It's amazing. And particularly, I mean, the sequoias aren't super cold, but like in cold climates. It's like all these cold, slow growing things. It just everything takes longer.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah. It is pretty crazy. to think that like anything where fire is part of the life cycle of the thing is so crazy to me. Yeah. Yeah. It's, but they're perfectly built. They have thick, spongy bark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So a fire will go through, wipe out all the pine trees and a lot of the sequoias will live. Yep. That's so wild. So basically all the sequoias have this, this scar on them from, because that's the only way they repur, they, they can. Not all, but many have fire scars. They've just, and they've lived for so long that they've endured everything, right? if you live 3,000 or 2,000 years. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I mean, when you stand in front of a Sequoia, too, you're just like, you can just look at it like it's a work of art. Like, you're just, this thing's been here since before Christ. Yeah. Like, you know, it's wild. That guy was an old man when Jesus was born. Yeah, a thousand years old. Brutal. And it's interesting, too, like their roots, they don't tap straight down.
Starting point is 00:25:25 You know, they don't really tap down much into the ground. They kind of go shallow and then they spread and they all inner, they all. interlace. Oh, I love that. So, like, if you pull up the grizzly giant, it's, it's leaning over. Yeah, I love, but it's anchored in because other, it's tapped into other trees' roots. I love the, the theory or the hypothesis, might be fact. I don't know that, you know, these when trees and shrubbery or whatever, they do this and they connect like that, that they're actually communicating and warning, like, of dangers and disease and stuff. That's pretty incredible, man. I mean, you've been around for as long as these trees.
Starting point is 00:26:01 You got to figure out some tricks, right? Pat, let me ask you this. Was it cold when you're up there filming? No. No. I didn't get to go through any of the gnarly winter stuff. Gotcha. Why?
Starting point is 00:26:10 I was going to give you some socks. Dude, so we fucking... What's up with the socks? I'll take the socks. So when we were filming the Rocky Mountain Wolf episode, we were up in the mountains, and it was cold, and we were in snow all day. Very cold. And bad circulation runs in my family.
Starting point is 00:26:28 It's the most old man thing I've ever heard of rant about. and he does it once for winter. What about the lights in the restaurant? No, this is worse. That doesn't run in my family. Please continue. I'm not. But I was, I didn't have the right boots.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I've since solved it because I figured out which boots I need for having cold toes. But I consistently was concerned by about eight hours into each day about my toes still being there. Yeah. And we all had to hear about it. Has never let me hear the end of the fact that I'm a little, a little bitch when it comes to cold feet. Is that why you brought him socks today? No, look. Here, look.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Let me preface this by saying, this is not a sponsor. I'm a gearhead. We all know that, right? Like big gearhead. My entire life, I've been a go to Costco, go on Amazon, buy like a 10 pack of socks for 25 bucks. Same. Okay, my whole life. I'm about to change both of your worlds because I brought you some too.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Oh, nice. Pop on for a second. Presence. Did these socks not change your life? Fantastic socks. Actually or not really? Legit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So these socks are. Cold toes. No. We used to before we had sponsors, we would just talk about. gear for free and that's what we're doing now. I know and I feel bad because we have sponsors that are paying us to do this but these things are made from alpaca wool. Oh really? So they're super temperature regulating and when I was shooting last week it would be below freezing in the morning and 80 degrees by the afternoon. Okay. And I was wearing these things and it was like,
Starting point is 00:27:49 holy shit, what a difference it made. Okay. Give me, give me. You've got here, that's yours. Here, those are the boot socks. Those are specifically for you. So I got you both ankle socks and boot socks. Those are yours. I'm wearing them right now. Those are the ankle ones because they're all I wear now. I swear to God. What's the brand? It's hollow socks.
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's called hollow socks. They're made from alpaca wool, which whatever. There's other benefits. They're antimicrobial. They're moisture waking, whatever. But the thing for me is the temperature regulating. You can take those boot socks and wear them from literally sub-freezing and your toes don't get cold to 80 degrees and you don't notice the difference. Well, thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Thank you, mate. That's it. We don't need to go into anything. more than that. I just, I wanted you guys to try them, especially cold toes. I love cold toes, clammy toes. Do you know anyone who ever has lost a toe to, uh, frostbite? I can get you a toe, man. I don't. Do you? I do. I have one, one, uh, a geologist, uh, pal of mine that I was in Greenland with who lost his, Kyle, he turned that off. He lost his pinky toe. Woof. Just his pinky. Go back, Kyle. Go back. I want to see the black toes afterwards. Yeah, that one.
Starting point is 00:28:58 He, no, go, go, go, go, go back. Go back. Dude, turn it off. We can't put this on the pot because they'll take us down. Dead feet. Cut this all. We can't put it on the pot. I like it.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I like it. Blur it out. All right. His balance is great. Really? Yeah, he climbs mountains and scree slopes like a gazelle. So it doesn't affect him at all that he has no little toe. I think he probably is just like a little sandal shy. It's really goes to show you how useless the little toe is.
Starting point is 00:29:24 What, uh, he was just cruising around. His feet were cold all day and then took his boots off. He was. He's a gold hunter. He's a geologist, but he's, you know, searches for gold, and he was prospecting up in the mountains. The old prospector. He just was out too long and took it off and took it off.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And the toe just came off with the toes. It just popped out. It was stuck to the sock like a jolly rancher. Oh, God. Do you think that every Inuit person has lost toes? I think it's probably not. You don't think it's pretty common? I think it's probably pretty common.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I don't know, maybe. I feel like they're probably just really smart about it. Nope. Oh. Not Filipino, not Inuit. Okay. Let's keep guessing, though. Wait, I got another piece of news that I saw and wanted to hear Forrest's take because he's a,
Starting point is 00:30:11 you've been on Shark Week, right? Once or twice. A new species of Hammerhead Shark has been discovered. This is exciting. Whoa. The shovel bill shark. That's like, I feel. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Okay. Let's take a look at this guy. Like big, like they discovered a whole shark that's. Looks like a bonnet head. It's teeny, huh? A new hammerhead shark from the Caribbean, scroll down. Aggressive. And the Southwest Atlantic, too far.
Starting point is 00:30:40 So there were previously... Joins the nine previously described species. This is cool. Yeah. So now we're up to ten. We're up to an even ten hammerhead sharks that exist. Collected in Riversdale, was that what it says? Riversdale, Belize?
Starting point is 00:30:52 So just looking at the shark forest, what can you tell any physical differences from the typical? No, it looks like a bonnet head to me. Even that tail, that's what a normal hammerhead tail looks like? It sort of has a little bit of a resemblance between a bonnet head and then the large dorsal to me looks like a greater hammerhead. But what else does it say about it, Kyle? I'm curious to see here. Differes from bonnet heads by having a unique head shape, more vertebrae, and distinct genetic characteristics. Well, no shit.
Starting point is 00:31:22 The name shovel bill has been proposed for it, I'm sure. Catchy name. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. named after the co-founder of Microsoft. That's bizarre. DNA testing. Like bonnet heads, currently listed is endangered.
Starting point is 00:31:38 The shovel bills at risk from bycatch and gill nets. Researchers emphasize the importance of conserving small hammers head species and collaborating with local fishers to protect sharks, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I mean, it's cool. It's really cool.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Someone should sell shark week around it immediately. How often is a new species, like, not necessarily a hammerhead shark, but there's nine species of hammerhead, another shark, for example, maybe there's five species. How often is, like, a new one like this discovered? I mean, not often.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And I can tell you what exactly what's happened. For the last 50 years, 30 years, whatever, gill netters, fishermen have been catching these and people have been looking at them going, that's a weird-looking bonnet head. You know, like it looks like, I know what that is. It's a bonnet head.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Oh, well, here in Belize, our bonnet heads look a little bit different. Sure. Cool. And then some researcher went down there and was doing a fish survey. I went, that's, that's not a bonnet head. There's something else going on here.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Here you can see the head shapes, which are pretty interesting. Oh, that's interesting. So, you know, it's like some researcher went down there to do a survey and was like, I'm telling you that's not a bonnet head. There's something else going on here. Did the genetics, did the measurements, keyed it out and went, yep, this is its own species. Very cool. So it's not like, you know, it's not like this is the, I'm certain.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's not like this is the first time in human history, anybody's seen this shark. You know what I mean? It's, I guarantee you it's been caught and eaten hundreds, if not thousands. of times. It's just somebody finally, like, from an educated background, when this is different. Kyle, can you scroll back up to the different hammerhead, hammerheads there? So what, we're looking at two different sets of hammerheads, the male and the female. The difference between the male and the female, look at the, look at the male, dude. It's just like a total grumpy, sad face cat. I mean, they both are. Well, the other one doesn't have any eyes or a mouth. Where's the mouth on
Starting point is 00:33:27 the female. I don't understand, or not on the female, on the one on the left. You're looking at the top view and the bottom view of the female. Oh, no wonder it doesn't have a mouth or eyes. Moving on. Next thing. Listen, I learned something new on this podcast every day. This, Cindy Gonzalez was working on this project
Starting point is 00:33:43 trying to see if this was a different species when COVID hit, and she ended up turning her apartment into a lab and continued working on it. Good for her. Yeah. Very cool. You'll never find a new species of Hammerhead. I will not. Not in your house.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Nope. Why? Your wife won't let you bring them in the house. Not low. Yeah. I'm not allowed to convert my living room into a laboratory. Fair enough. Hey,
Starting point is 00:34:04 Forest. No, I mean, I'm not looking, but I did see recently, check these guys out, Kyle. Australian saw shark.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Okay. I'm sure we get the right one. Check out how adorable these things are. Is this a new speech or just something you discovered? I didn't think it was going to be as cute as you said. It's like this big, by the way. See the little whiskers hanging out off of its,
Starting point is 00:34:21 off of its rocks? A little catfish in it. A foot long? They're like tiny. tiny little things. So is this, you just discovered this animal or is this a new speech? No, neither. I was just researching sharks. I found it. You mentioned your living room. And then you'd also said this morning when you got here that you're, you don't have a bathroom in your house right now. Oh yeah. Let me paint you a picture. Let me paint you an even better picture.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I'd like to see it. We've been remodeling our house. I was supposed to be finished by the second of September. Sure. It's now Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's past that. Yeah. So, so it's still going. But last week, I'm on a shoot and I get a text from Jessica. My mom's out of town, so she's not there to help. The babysitters in Florida, because we have a babysitter that we like. And I get a text from Jessica. I'm so sick. I'm throwing up. I have a migraine and I'm stuck with the kids. What am I supposed to do? And I was like, yeah, that's terrible. At least the bathroom hasn't been demolished yet. And she just wrote back wrong. Send me a picture. We have one bathroom in her house. Yeah. Yeah, it's gone. It's flattened. So she's got stomach flu and no bathroom.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's time to think about. Why didn't she just leave? Why didn't she just like... Why didn't she just leave the kids at home and leave you permanently? They're one and five. No, no, just left and took off forever. Just like the astronaut, put a diaper on and drive to Florida. I ask myself all the time why she doesn't do that.
Starting point is 00:35:44 But no, she moved into my mom's house up the road, which was fine. But yeah, no, that was two weeks ago in our bathroom. We had a plumber come over, plumber that I've used before. I asked him. I was like, Greg, name's Greg. Greg, can we put a bathtub in here? Because the kids like to bath and not shower, right? Because they're kids. Yeah. Absolutely not. Your drain will not support it, blah, blah, blah. So my wife then goes to our general
Starting point is 00:36:07 contractor and goes, Eduardo, his name's Eduardo. She goes, Eduardo, can we put a bathtub in here? And he goes, yeah, no problem at all. So they rip up the entire bathroom. And then Eduardo goes, ooh, so we have a problem. You can't put a bathtub in here with that drain. So now we've been without a toilet or shower for two weeks in our house. And you won't end up with a bathtub? No, no. We're just going to put the shower back how it was before with new tiles. Now, why don't you do this?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Because Joshua Tree is near here. And whenever I go to Joshua Tree, I get a little Airbnb. And they always have the, they always have the cowboy tub. Yeah, just pop one outside there. Yeah, it's like that corrugated metal tub that you just fill with water and sit in your own filth. I hate baths too. I'm with you. I think they're disgusting.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Dude, by the way, when you got kids, your kids will just pee in there and then the soap and they'll just like drink a cup of it and be like, I know. I don't even do anything now. Wait, what is that mean? What is that? I just am like, this is... You can't do anything. Yeah, it's a nightmare. And you're just like, I just want to get this over with.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Blow bubbles in your own pee. I don't care. You just learn to accept the fact that that pee is sterile and it won't hurt them. But no kid has ever taken a shower fact. No. By the way, you take your kid. My three and a half, nobody cares about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:16 She takes showers. Yeah. Kyle's laughing because he knows it's true. Yeah, he's going to cut this out. I put my bathing suit on. Yeah. Because it's weird. Yeah, you have to.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I can get her to take a shower if I let her spray me in the face with the hand hose. Oh, there you go. It's hilarious. There you go. Let's go top three DFL. Let's get a jingle. Kyle's top frantic.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Kyle's frantic. Number one. Number two. Number three. Yeah. Dead fucking lots. Which one you want to do? You want to do this one?
Starting point is 00:37:46 I like this was submitted by a Brosner. Let's do it. Okay. Set it up. Well, everyone, look, it's cold out in a lot of the country. The weather outside is. in the northern hemisphere. It's time where we all settle down.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And everyone talks about like, hey, what's a good series? What's a good series I should watch? Yeah. We work in the documentary film world. We do. Top three and DFL. Peter, if you ask AI for a suggestion. No, no, I have to look at lists to remember what I've looked at.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I'm not that bright. Top three, DFL favorite documentary series to binge during the holiday time. Oh, that's great. All right. That's great. Do it. I'll go first. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Mine are very clean. Very clean. Number three, I really enjoyed it. Light, fun. It's called, Hey, Pepsi. Where's my Jet? Oh, I saw that advertised. I never watched it.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I think it's Netflix? It's Netflix, for sure. I saw it on Netflix. Just a very fun, easy, approachable, fun story about a kid who collected enough Pepsi points. I don't know when it was, like the early 90s or something. Yeah. To win a jet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Pepsi had made a jokey commercial about like you get a VCR with like 200 points, blah, blah, blah. And they said seven million points. You get a fighter jet. Yep. And it was supposed to be a joke, but he got the points and gotten broiled in a battle to collect his jet. Great.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And it's just really, they do it in a really funny way. They've got the kid who's all growns up now. Yep. I recommend it. Okay. If you're looking for something to binge. That's your number three or your number one?
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's my number three. Okay. Number two, also in the sort of comedic, funny. McMillions. Oh. I loved it. About making millions of McDonald's? No, it's about McDonald's Monopoly.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Oh, yeah, that story about the corruption thing that happened. There was like a scam ring of people that were stealing the boardwalk piece to get the million dollars on McDonald's Monopoly. And trading them around or how was it working? It was like a really intricate thing. And they realized it was happening. They didn't know where. And the FBI got involved.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And the FBI made a fake movie that they posed. as movie producers. Oh, yeah. It's a great story. Really, really fun and comedic. And the number one, of course. I've never seen either. The jinks.
Starting point is 00:40:03 The jinks? The original jinks. Don't know it. I mean, I don't want to give away the ending, but it's a true crime docu-series. Okay. Where the ending results in someone going to prison because of a murder. Oh, yeah. I know this.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I know about this. In the bathroom with the light. It's boiler alert. No, but it's a great watch. Those are my top three. TFL is going to be a little controversial. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:40:34 My octopus teacher. Dude, get the fuck out of here. I was going to say it too. You guys are crazy, dude. I was going to say, I hated it. Well, it's because you're ADD. No, but it's such a, like Patrick and I are going to get reamed for saying this. No, I mean, I loved the octopus.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I just didn't like the film as much. It took 30 minutes of a guy sitting in a chair talking. until we saw an octopus. I was like, what the fuck is going on? I liked it. Dude, I can't say more because I'll definitely get booed off stage. I mean, I also don't want to shit on anyone's work
Starting point is 00:41:05 because I've done a lot of horrible television work. So it's just one that I just people loved and I didn't like as much. It might have been the mood I was in. It did not connect for me. Okay, what's yours? Top three. Top three.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Okay, I saw one recently that I loved, recommend it for everybody this winter. It's called Billy, and Molly. It's an hour and 20 minute film about a guy who has an otter that visits him. And you're like, that's it. That should be two minutes. So he's Billy and the Otter's Molly? Correct. He names her Molly and they go through her whole thing, like how he found her washed up. It's gorgeous. Beautifully shot. Really enjoyable. Like great watch. She's so cute. Look at the little hand coming through the dock there. I just, that's unbelievable. Dude, it's great. It's a really good watch.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And it's funny because I started it with the same crumagony feeling. of my octopus teacher and I was grumbling to my wife. I was like, I don't want to watch this. Like, why are we doing this? And then like three minutes in, I was like, well, let's just see what happens next. Yeah, yeah. And it's really well done.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Nice. I have not seen that. I will watch. It's really good. For me, this comes up every Christmas. They just released a third one. It's planet Earth. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, it's just a no-brainer. I love it. You can watch it over and over. It never gets old. Nice, Cal. Cal just Googled Planet Earth just to see us a globe. It's just a globe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Fake. Fake. Fake. news. It's flat. And then this is probably going to be as controversial as me saying that my octopus teacher is garbage. But, dude, Tiger King. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:35 It's so good. From just pure entertainment. Oh, my God. It's so good. Yeah. Every character, this fucking Looney Tune with his blue shirt here, like, it's so good. You can't, whether you love tigers more than anyone on earth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You can't say it's not an entertaining show. Oh, it's fantastic. It's so well done. You never see it coming. I've gone through the whole series twice. And then, yeah, I mean, sorry to be a buzzkill. But yeah, for me, once again, my Octopus teacher did not rank. You guys are insane.
Starting point is 00:43:05 The movie was great. It gave me chills. Really liked it a lot. When you got Peter. Well, you know, I don't watch too many documentaries. I actually just had to go through the IMDB top 100 to find some that I've watched. One, a couple that I really liked. Obviously, this will be something that's right in my week.
Starting point is 00:43:23 wheelhouse, but I loved inside job. Oh, it's great. Yeah, good one. I mean, that's a feature, but that's okay. Well, these are all probably going to be. I mean, features. It's basically just about the whole 2008 financial collapse what led up to it. And it's just really well done.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Incredibly well done. Yeah. And you learn a lot about stuff that nobody ever would have known ever otherwise. Um, uh, and then the next one, similar. and Ron smartest guy in the room, dude, another just like corruption where you're just like, holy shit, like anybody who has money
Starting point is 00:44:00 definitely is just screwing everybody else over. And I do have an animal one that I really, really liked. It's an older one. But dude, it's so good. March of the Penguins, bro. Oh, nice. It's like, it's just, man,
Starting point is 00:44:16 I mean, my octopus teacher, yeah, but March of the Penguins is even better. So good. I want to hear a DFL, then I want to throw one more in there. Yeah, of course. My DFL is very simple. It destroyed my life for two weeks when my friend put it on before I was about to start on Whale Wars. I'm sure it's a necessary thing to watch, I guess.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's horrible. It's horrific. I never want to see anything like it again. The Cove, dude. It's so it destroyed me emotionally for like two weeks and I was just so sad. It's well made. Very well done. Very well done.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. None of those are serious. I want to throw one more in there. And also not a series, standalone film, Blue Water White Death. Never heard. Never heard.
Starting point is 00:44:59 It's the first ever attempt, and they succeeded, to film Great White Sharks underwater. And it's so crazy. It's so old school. It's, I want to say early 70s. Just in cages, like, like, Jaws-esque.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Everything they do is insane. Keep in mind, this is early 70s. Not recommending people do this. They go out and blow up a live whale. to try and bring in great white sharks to film them. Jesus. A live whale? Yes, they go and catch a humpback whale and murder it to bring in sharks.
Starting point is 00:45:30 But it was just so, like, that's what biology was in the 70s. And that's what's so cool and crazies. Like, there was no rules. There was no laws. There were no, like, ethic codes. It was just like, how do we get this footage? How do we do this? How do we study white sharks?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Well, back then, you could do it because the world wasn't on the verge of global warming collapse. There was still, like, whales in the ocean. Yeah. They go and harpoon this, I think, forget if it's a humpagger, gray whale, and then drag it around. And then you just have this like, God, that's terrible. Dude, no, it's such a good. It's so good, though. Like, it is terrible what they do the whale, but the film's so good.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And they do succeed and they go to South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, California. They're all over the world. And they're doing it all in this shitty old sailing boat. And, uh, you know, life aquatic with Steve's a zoo. Yeah. Yeah. Now there's always a guy playing a ukulele or whatever. That's where this is from.
Starting point is 00:46:18 No, really. Every like third cut in the film. is just this like hippie chick playing a guitar on the sailboat. That's a wild. It's bizarre. Dude, it's bizarre. Okay. Yeah, they, like, I would say a lot of Steve, like the life aquatic stuff is pulled from
Starting point is 00:46:33 blue water, white death. Do you feel like, they have little red hats, everything. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Have you, uh, have you pitched just you remaking this as a shark week? Hadn't even considered it. He's, put it on the back burner.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I think you got enough on your plot. Ugh. Um, but yeah. Dude, it's crazy. It's really good. I have to watch this. Yeah, this, like, hot blonde chick in her string 70s bikini and then these weird ocean dudes.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It's really weird. So this must have been like post jaws, right? They're like, Jaws came out. No, it's pre-Jaws. For sure. When did Jaws come out? Definitely before 79 or something? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 This is the first ever trip to film Great White's in the water. Nobody had ever done it. It was crazy that it was only... Oh my God. Is he just in the water with it? Without like a cage? That wasn't a white shark. But yeah, they build these cages themselves.
Starting point is 00:47:20 It's just all fucking made up. They're just like, let's try this. Yeah. It's awesome. Talk about trying to get clicks. Back in the day, 70s clicks. Dude, it's so cool. I got to say, I mean, it's something about when the weather drops.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I say it every year, but it's this time of year. The Christmas king. Working out becomes less important. Definitely watch some more TV. As bad as you can challenge. As fat as I can for the next six weeks. Yep. But while we're here, it's Monday.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Thanksgiving's coming up on a few. days, which is also my, I don't know what year, but some, some wedding anniversary. So I'm glad we were talking about this. I propose we do one more game. We kick it back to the old school podcast one. We started it. Okay. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I think I know what time it is. Do you know what time? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Battle Royal. There we go. Are you wrecked from that? No, I'm the opposite. My dick is in my assail. Gross. It inverted. I didn't mean like it went under.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It went backwards. All right. So here we go. Non-traditional Battle Royale holiday themed. We've never done this one before. Oh, holiday themed. We've done, you're providing a foraging Thanksgiving menu. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:48:44 We've done all sorts of things. Yep. Here's simple, fun. I want the Brosners to chime in. with what their battle royale would be. We'll read them. Let me give someone a shout out. How's that sound?
Starting point is 00:48:56 All right. You, it's a snake draft. Four picks. Okay? Four. Yeah, four. We're going to do four this time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Three are items that you are going to serve your guests at this lovely three item dinner. Okay. But none of them can be a traditional Thanksgiving item. Ooh, I like that. No mashed potatoes. Oh, God. No stuffing. No turkey.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Okay. And are those included in the meal and these are extras? No. This is a whole new meal. A whole new meal with only three items. Gotcha. And it's got to be a hit. And it's got to be a hit.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's got to be a hit. And then the fourth thing you're going to draft, Peter, stop using AI. No. You know foods. You've heard of food. Put your phone down. The fourth thing. Come and take his phone away.
Starting point is 00:49:40 No, no. I've already got my whole plank and cocked here. The fourth thing is after your meal is served, an activity that your invited guests will participate in. Oh, okay. I like that. After this dinner. Yaha.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And then Brosters are going to say, whose party they'd like to attend. Oh, I like that. Okay. Easy. So we're just going to go like to snake draft. Boop boop boop boop boop. Nice.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Forest first. I'll start. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to take, it's fall. Nice seasonal Thanksgiving. All right. I am going to start.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I'm going to go starter, entree. dessert. That's how I'm doing mine. Okay. I'm going to start off. It's going to be a very gourmet Thanksgiving. Very rich, delicious. Blinis and caviar as the appetizer. Oh, that is. Give me a little more about what that is. What's a blini? You cretans. A blini is a tiny pancake. A little pancake that you put caviar on with sour cream and chives like that. How many of those am I going to need to eat to feel like I really am in Thanksgiving mode? It's an appetizer. A Thanksgiving mode is infinite. About 500.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah. You're going to get a nice little like go left one, Kyle. You're going to get a little pot like that. Serve yourself some sour cream. Probably like eight blinis. Okay. He's an appetizer. We're wetting the appetizer.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Okay. I'm going to follow wetting the appetizer. I'm going to follow you, although I'm not going to have a dessert. I am going to have a distinct appetizer that's going to be served about an hour before the main meal. Kyle just threw up in his mouth. Kyle just burped and it looked like something came into his mouth. He's nodding, yes. Yuck.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah. I'm going to start with a lovely tray, perfectly displayed beautifully, of multi-flavoring stuffed empanadas. I'm going to have some ground beef and olive. I'm going to have some delicious spinach and cheese. Wow. Okay. I'm going to even have one that's just pepperoni pizza themed.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Wow. So I'm going to have a huge platter of empanadas with chimmy churry to dip. Nice. Okay. I got to do two. Right, but AI's right. I'm trying not to use the exact AI and put my own spin on it. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:52 So, uh, you're so creative. Shut your butt. Uh, so first, first off, I'm going to go with, uh,
Starting point is 00:51:58 this is classic and I think it should be at every meal, not just for Thanksgiving. Um, ostrich hard boy deviled eggs. Austridge deviled eggs. Uh, you go in, you, you have a,
Starting point is 00:52:11 huge, you have a full ostrich. No, I mean, I like what the AI did here, because I'm not going to get Peter credit. it's very clever. No, AI said pumpkin spice deviled eggs.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I was like, it's two on the nose. It's two A.I. I want ostrich deviled eggs like this. You can see here it's like a nice presentation size of a basketball. Well, you can have like the regular deviled eggs around there and maybe throw a little. That looks great. No, that's the hard boiled egg, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:39 So we're going to have that. And you'll have some little eggs around you, your kids can pick at. And maybe throw a little pumpkin spice on it. The doubled eggs are great. And everyone will have a trash can to puke in. We could have that. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:52 We'll put that on the table, too. So, and then after that, we're going to have, and this isn't in the AI at all, this is from my Polish roots. I don't even know if it's Polish. But we're going to do turkey, ground turkey stuffed cabbage rolls. Ew. What? That doesn't sound good at all.
Starting point is 00:53:13 What? What in God's name? What are you talking about? It's supposed to be non-traditional. It is non-traditional. I get it. But what the fuck's a cabbage roll? You've never had a cabbage roll?
Starting point is 00:53:22 No, because... Is it like a Polish, a traditional Polish item? I mean, my mom used to make it. I'm assuming she was Polish. But it's delicious. It's cabbage and it's got meat and seasoning. And if I was pad, I would go on to elaborate with the seasonings and whatnot, but I'm not, so I can't. It's probably pretty good.
Starting point is 00:53:39 It's delicious. I just didn't know what it was until I saw the pictures. The pictures make it look much better. If you know what a cabbage roll is... So you're using turkey. to be turkey adjacent. Say, Pat's head looks like a cabbage in the comments.
Starting point is 00:53:50 All right. I'm going to, for my main course, it's just this is so obvious. Okay. But I'm doing it because it's what should be done. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I'm going to have a massive tray of delicious homemade by me, lasagna, which, in which I will make my own Bolognese sauce. I will follow Bobby Flai's recipe using a bechamel
Starting point is 00:54:15 cheese sauce. in there. It's light. It's delicious. It doesn't make you feel as fat as a normal lasagna. That's going to be my main course. You're a human Garfield. You love pizza and lasagna and taking naps. You should, you should. I've been taking a nap since I was great. Throw this on Forrest's menu because nobody's going to be full from those caviar crackers he's cooking. Correct. Correct. They're not. That's an appetite stimulant. Which is going to be followed by a delightful, one of my favorite meals, hefty, beef Wellington. Oh, boy. Big slices. Here's the thing. And I'll I'll tell you why I went with that.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Because in a Beef Wellington, you're getting pastry, you're getting veggies, and you're getting meat. So you because I only have one entree with which to get all meat and sides. All food groups. They're all there. They're all there. You know, I went to, did I ever tell you? Why is that one shaped like a pineapple? Did I ever tell you guys that I went to like the, like a filming of Hell's Kitchen in Hell's Kitchen where Beef Wellington is like the, you know, that's a signature dish?
Starting point is 00:55:09 I knew that was his dish. I did not know that you went to the tap. I've never, I've never in my life eaten something better than the beef. Oh, you got to taste it? Oh, yeah. I sat down for a meal. It was so good. And they fill you with free, free wine.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Like I, it was the best time of my life. Okay. That's it. Nobody about your dessert. Oh, sorry. It's four. It's four. So it's very confusing as to how the snake draft car.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah. Welcome to my world. Yeah. I hope you don't steal my activity. No, I shan't. All right. So I'm going to go dessert then. So we've got caviar and blinis for appetizer.
Starting point is 00:55:45 We've got Beef Wellington for an. entree. For dessert, I'm going to have a bananas foster. Oh, it's nice. It's so good. Simple. Grand Monnier in there? Yeah, oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. It's delicious. Oh, look at that. It's so I don't know about the one in the cup, but it's a delicious dessert. You don't care for a banana's foster? No, no, I do. It's just the dessert. Desert shouldn't be part of the meal. Somebody else would have brought it. It's unnecessary. I'm also, I'm also not going to do a dessert because I just like to get full off salty things. Yeah, of course. And so what I'm going to have.
Starting point is 00:56:16 have to go with my Italian-themed lasagna. Now, you might think I'm going to say pizzas. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. An orange cap. I am going to serve the biggest bowl it's going to be about the size of this table. Wow. Ice cold salad from the olive garden.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Bread sticks include. No, no breadsticks included. It's ice cold. It's refreshing. It's big. Look at that. It's zesty. It's real good.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah, they sprinkle the tomato slices with parmesan. So now is everybody just going to, like, eat it out of a trough? like style. There'll be utensils. But they'll be at the thing eating it together. There will be utensils. At the bowl at the table size bowl. Uh, so that's what I'm doing. I'll throw my ostrich at devil dakes there. I just had a big argument with the crew. In fact, our mutual buddy John Rondano was like Olive Garden's like, oh no, no, he liked Olive Garden. Mitch was the one who's like, Olive Garden's disgusting. That's heinous. I was like, you're an idiot. You're a garden's fantastic. No, my wife, my wife refuses to go there and it's like, we've never gone there together. And I'm like, why? It's a tree. It's just, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just, there's just, there's just got this thing that it's like cheap Italian food but it's exactly what it is. Yeah and it's great.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And it's delicious. It's a Taco Bell of Italian foods. It sure is. Um, is it my turn? Yeah, for two. For two. Okay, for Todd, for two. Uh, I'm gonna go with, oh, dude. Yeah. So for my main dude, we're going, we're going big because we got the ostrich egg, of course. And then the cabbage rolls, but they're not that big, but, uh, we're going to go with a, just a, a tomahawk steak for everybody gets
Starting point is 00:57:41 their own. That's nice. Everybody. That's complain. Everybody gets their own $200 tomahawk steak at Thanksgiving, you're telling your friends about that. Oh, yeah. Like, dude, you missed out by not going to Peters. He was serving tomahawks. Depends on how. But also he had ostrich, ostrich devil dags. Yeah, I threw up from the app, but a few hours later, I felt well enough to eat my
Starting point is 00:58:02 tomahawk. Yeah, you can eat the app afterwards if you want. Go start with the tomahawk. We're putting it all out at the same time. Uh, you can pick and choose. What about your activity? Oh, my activity. Post dinner.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Post dinner, not pre. Oh, yeah. Okay. Post dinner. I'm going to do we're going to do a little bit of you didn't check AI for this one we'll play spin the bottle
Starting point is 00:58:24 with all of our family members and friends yeah so that's you will tell your friends about this what about Turkey truth or dare turkey truth or dare I kissed my father on the lips at my Thanksgiving party no no the AI literally told me Turkey truth or dare so I was like
Starting point is 00:58:39 nah I was like let's go spin the bottle what is that all the dares have to be related to a live turkey that you've unleashed in the living room. Yeah. All right. So you're going to want to attend my party because I've served you empanadas, lasagna, and olive garden salad, nostalgia. So Thanksgiving dinner's over, which means we have now, the second the last bite is
Starting point is 00:59:01 eaten, we've now entered Christmas season. Oh, God. So I will be handing out a pair. Candy canes. I will have everyone's sizes. And I will hand everyone matching PJs. Ooh. I will have gone on Amazon.
Starting point is 00:59:14 and bought dozens of additional cheap couch cushions and have made a huge couch slash pillow fort. Oh, nice. Sounds really, yeah. At Orgy. Everyone in their PJs is going to get into the pillow fort together and watch Home Alone. But here's what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:59:32 We're going to play a drinking game with it. Okay. Whatever you're doing. One of the kids going to do at this point? They're in bed. Oh, okay, good. They're not there to ruin the meal any long. I'm trying to ruin his chances of winning.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Every time. So you'll have your drinks. We'll have a whole bar, obviously, set up of Nogroni and hot toddies and all sorts of stuff like that, man, whatever you like. Every time that they show McCulley Calkin doing something cute, everyone has to take a sip. Oh, my God. Dude, you'd be, you'd be smashed by. Actually, they treat him like real dog shit in the first part of the movie.
Starting point is 01:00:05 He's so cute. He's really cute. Pity about the adult he grew into. Ah, he's cool. I like him. All right. Man, it's going to be hard to be. beat Pats all around.
Starting point is 01:00:15 No, mine. The Tomahawks, hell. Nah. Come on. Cabbage roll. All right. I'm going to bend the rules slightly here.
Starting point is 01:00:22 My Thanksgiving meal, this is going to be the event itself. So as you enter into the party, you're going to step onto a scale. No. Ah, I hate this. Yeah, where you're going.
Starting point is 01:00:34 You're going to step onto the scale. And then immediately post meal, you're going to weigh in again. And as relative, in proportion to your body weight, You who ate the most caviar and... You're like, I forgot what else I did.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Beef Wellington and bananas foster by weight wins $500. So it's an eating competition of gourmet food. That's fun. Yeah. It's fun, but none of the women would participate at all. It's per body weight. It's in relation to body weight. We'll do like per percentage of weight gained.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Yeah. It's easy. I can show you that. Let's invent that scale just for his party where you step on. gives you the percentage gained. I like it. It's nonsense. I've obviously won.
Starting point is 01:01:18 The Tomahawk steak alone wins. What was your activity? Spend the bottom. Oh, that's right. Well, yeah. With your family. Kiss your father on his mouth. At Peters.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I went to Peters. I got sick from an egg and then I licked my dad's ear. It was not the best part. You kissed his butt hole. Is your dad still alive? What? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Yeah, he won't be there. He'll be there in spirit. He won't have to. What a grim way to end. Sorry. What was that? I don't know. On that note, good night, everybody.
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