Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Forrest Galante on Dire Wolf DeExtinction

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

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I'm a penis. No, we'll get into it in a second. I'm your host, Forrest Galangio the broologist. There is Papa P next to me, the producer and the professor on the far end. Petter Fitzer. Hello, gents. And lots going on. Lots going on.

Yeah, look. I mean, you started first thing this morning, coming out hot with the text, you walked into the studio, you're on the phone. Yep. You were late. I was late. Yeah. But your reason was better than mine. Your dog jumped through a window.

Sure did. No, but what? I mean, look, huge news today, fresh. What do we got? Well, for the first time in history, an extinct animal has been bioengineered to be brought back. And not just one, two that have been announced. Three. How many? I don't know. I don't know that they've told about three. Kyle says. I know other things. I thought you would know that detail. No, I know I know other things,

but I know of three. Romulus, Remus, and Calisi are the three dire wolves that for the first time in 10,000 years are once again roaming the earth. How insane is that? Where are they roaming? So they're in an undisclosed facility. I can't say where they are for obvious reasons. But there are three of them. They have a massive paddock. I haven't seen them in person. I've seen them. I've videos and photos have been sent to me from this location. But they have this massive paddock. They've been taken care of really well. That's Ben Lamb, the CEO of Colossal, holding one of the pups at only like six weeks old.

And it's six weeks old. It's like 75 pounds. Yes. So these are legit dire wolves brought back used from actual genes that were meticulously rebuilt from dire wolf genetics one by one to produce a dire wolf. Dude, fascinating, man. So they finally have done it. It's, you know, they've been messing with the woolly mammoth, the, the Tasmanian tiger, the thylacine.

And those are in the works, but this is actually the breaking point. Well, okay. So as we all know, I'm a conservation advisor to colossal. So I've been on the inside of this for over two years. And we've been working on this on the dire wolf for over two years longer than that. That's how long I've been involved in this. But it's been highly confidential. I've been under strict NDAs.

Nobody's known about it. Yeah. And then, you know, I knew when they were born and I knew three or four weeks ago that this was going to get announced this week. And everybody's been talking internally about it and then woke up this morning. It's like, hey, guess what? World. Extinction's a thing of the past. Cover of Time magazine.

Cover of Time magazine right now. Yeah, it's crazy, man. So dire wolves, they're born. Now, what's so cool about this and it's important to note is not just are the dire wolves. This technology is a proof of concept. Okay. It's really important to note this. And I don't, with all of the news and the stuff floating around, listen to Howl of the Puppies. That's my good buddy, Matt James, holding them right there.

Oh, my. Beautiful. How cute is that? A sound not heard in what, 50,000 years? At least 10,000. 10,000? Yeah. That is apt.

Unbelievable, dude. Gracing the earth again with its wonderful, beautiful sound. So, Dyer Wolves. Okay, Game of Thrones, right? There's Dyerwolf character. Yeah, that's right. I had seen it on Game of Thrones. Then I went to the Libreia Tar Pits,

and I believe there were dire wolves in North America, right? Correct. Because I think there was some in California that had fallen into the Libreia Tar Pits. Correct. Tell me about, so what can I expect when I get to see these dire wolves in person? Well, and here's the thing.

That's why I was saying this is important to understand. So the dire wolves are a proof of concept. Okay. This was never announced. Colossil is obviously known for working on thigh Eilocene working on Mammoth, working on Dodo. For two years, I've known about this. We've been working on this. We knew this was going to come. Came today. Big announcement. Everybody's super excited. But nobody knew this was coming. This is a proof of concept. The reason I'm pointing

this out is nobody's letting Dyerwolves go tomorrow. They're not going to be like, hey, we need dire wolves back in Yellowstone. No thank you. No thank you at all. Like, that's a bad idea. But this is a proof of concept to show what this technology is capable. of and the real game changer is that the same technology has been used to clone critically endangered red wolves, which is an animal, I think we've talked about before. It's the most critically endangered wolf species in the world. And because this technology is useful in canines, if you, here's another way to put it. If we just came out and said, Colosco came out and said, hey, we've cloned a critically endangered red wolf. It's kind of a page turner. It's like, oh,

okay, you know, like we heard about when Dolly the sheep got cloned and we know you guys are working on this. You took an animal that's out there. there that can breed and made another one. But no. So what Colossal's done so ingeniously is they've announced, look at what this technology can do and already applied this technology to this Red Wolf clone with this they've named Ghost Daughter, which is like a native name. I forget the name of the actual pronunciation of it. Nika Kaida. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. And anyway, it's just so cool because it's showing the application for this technology, but literally the way I see it, and I could talk about what we can expect with the wolves and everything, but the way I see it is,

when we all woke up today, the world had changed. Like, extinction is in some degree now a thing of the past. It's not a permanent thing anymore. No, it doesn't need to be. With the right money and everything else, it doesn't need to be. Like, literally, when we woke up today, the world changed. So I was trying to get you to describe a dire wolf. And what the, what's a dire wolf? Okay, sorry. There are people listening who still don't know what we're talking about. Fair enough. A Dyer wolf is a giant wolf. So it was closely related or unclear on it. I'm unclear on it, how closely related it was to the gray wolf. But imagine a gray wolf that was 200 pounds that lived 10,000 years ago that was what a coyote is to a wolf, a wolf was to a dire wolf. Does that make sense?

So when you look at a coyote and go, wow, that's like a little wolf, you know, and it's kind of smaller and it lives in a solitary way and it will sometimes be in a pack, blah, blah, blah. Then you look at the wolf, you're like big, majestic, powerful, larger. Now, if you take one more step from wolf to dire wolf, that's basically what it is. To me, some of these diagrams here, it looks thicker. Yeah. It's definitely taller than a wolf too, right? Seven feet long, you know, 200-ish pounds.

It's just, it's longer legs, faster running. It's just sort of bigger and more powerful. And again, like a coyote is to a wolf, a wolf is to a dire wolf. And so this is the first 100%, so the general. So the genetics are 100% back? They used dire wolf genes, pure dire wolf genes, to then build dire wolf, if that makes sense. I don't understand any of this. We've talked about this many times.

I'm not a crisper guy. I don't understand this. But it's not like a wishy-washy thing. I remember we did that one article where they brought back like a zebra without stripes, and they were like, well, yeah, it's not really that animal. Correct. This is different than that. Correct.

What I understand is that dire wolf expresses basically 20, key unique traits that makes it different from a regular wolf. So instead of just taking a regular wolf and being like, all right, let's make it bigger and call it a dire wolf. Yeah, yeah. That's not what they've done. They've taken those 20 key traits that are unique to dire wolves and put them into the pups that the Sargat dog birthed

and now bred a dire wolf, if that makes sense. So genetically it's a dire wolf. It's not, you can easily take a gray wolf. I don't know about easily. I couldn't. But you could take a gray wolf and be like, hey, hey, let's just genetically engineer this to be 250 pounds and call it a gray wolf. But that's not what they've done. They've taken these unique traits and put them into the pubs.

So obviously there's no plans in place that these will ever be released. No, absolutely not. And that's insanity. Why? Why can't we do it? Same reason we're not. Have you seen Jurassic Park, Patrick? Yes.

Do you know what happens when you release the big predators? I was just going to say, though, like we are actually that much of. closer to some like kind of crazy billionaire building Jurassic Park. Well, that's basically what Ben's done. But no, so the pups are in this undisclosed location. It's in the U.S., I can tell you that. It's amazing. Like I said, I've seen a lot of live videos and photos and stuff of them.

And they have an unreal facility, like Ventara level facility just for these pups, but they'll never be released. I don't even know that they'll ever be open to sort of the public seeing them. Yeah. This is just like the world needs to know that we can do this. But we can expect to see probably tons of videos and learn about their behaviors and all kinds of different fun science-y things. Yeah. So it says that the pups are already, I don't know, oh, they're six months old.

They're pure white. Yep. Or dire wolves. Is that one of their traits? I don't know. Okay. Probably. At six months old, they're already four feet long and 80 pounds.

They expect them to grow to six feet long. and 150 pounds. But it says that even when they're handlers who have raised them from birth approach them, they can only get so close before they flinch and retreat, which is definitively like wolfish

behavior, not dog behavior. If you go and see a wolf, it doesn't run up and lick you in the face. Right. Yeah. And you know, I think that's just the expression of those traits in personality. So what do we think like the implications of this are as far as

as like conservatism go. Like, so we can bring back all of these animals. Conservatism. I think he means conservation. Conservationism. How many drinks have you had? It's early. I've got like seven drinks scattered here.

Not all alcoholic, though. But, uh, three. Right. No, but so, you know, as far as like, you hear, we hear a lot of negativity going on about like the, the environment and everything. What, what can they do with this technology that would, would, make us feel like warm and fuzzy other than just kind of like the the obvious like awesomeness of it like could they bring back i don't know what trees or something that will that will make the

environment better or i think there's an ab and flow here extinction is an incredibly serious thing and i don't want people to look at this this is just me speaking on a personal from a personal standpoint and obviously i'm an advisor to colossal i support what they're doing wholeheartedly this is one day i'll get to see a thylacine because of them probably you know? So I'm a big supporter, so I'm looking at this through rose-colored glasses. But on the flip side of it, the danger of this science and technology is people think extinction doesn't matter. Could think extinction doesn't matter. Well, wait, so who cares if the blue beetle just went extinct? Coloss will just bring it back. They're a billion-dollar company and they can bring back a wolf.

Who gives a shit if we lose the wood-boring beetle? Well, guess what? When you lose the blue wood-boring beetle, that affects the entire forest. It's not just about that beetle, if that makes sense. And my fear is that from a superficial level, an ignorant person looks at this and goes, okay, well, I no longer need to really care about extinction. Right. But on the flip side of that coin, we don't really care anyway.

Exactly. As a society, as a species, humans don't care, or we'd be doing more about it. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're kind of saying that like, you know, some political person who's trying to maybe pass some or get rid of some regulations on like environmental protections could just be like, well,

I mean, we can just grow home in a lab anyways. Who cares if this thing that we do, this policy decision wipes out a whole species? As always, it comes down to education and understanding. If you understand that it's not just about saving an individual or saving an individual species, it's about that species place in the food chain and in the ecosystem and the ecology that it plays on the environment. And so on face value, the dumb dumb now goes, well, extinctions extinct. Who gives a shit?

You know? Well, they'll just bring it back if we kill it out. I might as well go hunt that last rhino. Why do they have to sound like that? I don't know. I feel like, dumb people sound like. That would have been the Times article headline. Well, Extinctions extinct.

But you know what I mean? It's like, and so there is like a scare of that. But I think, again, my opinion is it's not like we're doing enough anyway. And you can't be scared of change and you can't be scared of technology. and this is change in technology. This is coming from the guy who constantly says how much he's scared of AI, but regardless, like, this is it, you know? Like, this is the big step.

It's so exciting. I think this represents such a big change in history. And what it does mean is that we can begin to use this technology to repair ecosystem. So, for instance, once the same technology is applied to the thylosine, which we all know Colossal has been working on, and the thylacine is reintroduced to Tasmania, that's going to reduce the mange. going to reduce the overgrazing. It's going to reduce the facial tumor disease. It's going to take out all those sick and unhealthy macropods in Tasmania that are spreading

disease. It's just going to balance out that ecosystem. And that's where this technology is so exciting. Do I care about the dire wolf? Yeah, selfishly, it's fucking rad. I watch Game of Thrones. Do I care about the dire wolf as it pertains to conservation? No, not on an individual level. Not particularly. No, I don't. But what this stands for and what this means and this step towards the greater good of de-extinction conservation is, it's just unbelievable. Like my mind's been blown. I mean, like Patrick said, I walked in here, like, it looked like I just been hit in the face with a baseball bat. I'm like, I don't even know what's happening today. Dude, so, yeah, so they got the DNA. This is interesting to me. They had two samples

of Dyerwolf DNA. One was from a 13,000-year-old tooth that was found in Ohio. Yep. The other was a 72,000-year-old earbone on Earth in American Falls, Idaho. And they were in, in museums and they were lent to Colossal to extract the DNA. Yeah. And then Colossal, I'm probably going to give a little spoiler alert here, but then Colossal does something that, I don't know if even the museums know, they drill into the core of it. I would, yeah, I would think. Because the outside's all fragmented and damage, right?

So you have to drill into the core of it to extract this DNA. And then they're like, okay, we got it. Sending back, it still looks good. You know, and they like send the samples back, I feel like. Yeah, sure. I don't know if that's really how that works. Well, I think the museums are probably like, we're fine with that. Yeah.

Also, you got to imagine they have, you know, 45 dire wolf skulls. And they're like, can you just send us a fucking tooth? Dude, all right. So let's say, let's open this up to everybody. Let's say like 10 years from now, you know, some crazy billionaire, as you said, has opened up essentially a park. You can go, they've got saber tooth cats. It's an extinct zoo. Yeah.

They got thylacine, saber tooth cats, dire wolves, woolly mammoths. Yeah. Mastodons. They've got all this cool shit roaming around. It's an experience. How much would you pay to go see it? And they're not giving you a fucking influencer discount for us.

Damn it. Yeah. A fortune. Am I like in amongst the first people to get to go and see it kind of thing? That's been like, it's been like soft opened for a month. I would pay. And I don't have that so much money. I would pay $10,000 to go and see it.

That was what I was thinking. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm pretty broke, but for my kids to be able to go there and kind of experience this and be the first generation to see it. I mean, I think it's worth a few grand to take the kid. They're definitely worth it more than like Disneyland. Kyle, would you pay 10 grand? No, I'd say $2,500. I don't hear what the brosters would pay.

Drop a comment. Let us know. I would rather do that and have that experience and see those things than buy a car. next year. Sure. Or short face bear. I forgot to mention that. Yeah.

I mean, are you kidding me? Kyle, there's a short face bear. Price just went out. You're only paying $2,500. Jesus. Five grand.

Yeah. I mean, Sabretooth cat would be, to me, that's what's getting me there. I might let it kill me just to be that guy. You know those people that jump over the fucking fence in the zoo

and then always get marked? I might do that. Merked. Yeah. I might just be the guy that's like, you know what, fuck it. I'm going in the saber tooth enclosure.

This is how I'm going out. I got a quick question. And so I know you might not even know this for us, but you touched on how you're terrified of AI taking over and everything. Yeah. Has like, so did Colossil, the advent of AI, Colossel's been working on this for years, AI at the same time has been advancing, like, rapidly. Yeah. Was it, was there a connection there? Like, they've been using the AI to exponentially advance the way that they're able to do this?

Colossel has a whole in-house AI team. Wow. I don't know what that means because I'm so like. Or what they do. I don't know what they do. I don't understand it. To me, it's like four nerds sitting on chat GPT going like, now solve this. I have a feeling it's a little bit more in depth than that.

But no, they have a whole like AI department at Colossus. So the same zoo, basically it's not open to the public. Okay. But it's all there. And you can only, you can pick one. They've offered to fly you out. But you can only kind of hang out and see one of the animals I name. Ooh, I like that.

Did you get to pet them? You get to like go into the enclosure You get an interaction, TBD. Peter, you go. Which one are you doing? All right, we decided we're going to do a contest for the NBA playoffs. We have not decided what we're wagering. What are we going to wager?

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It's filled with Pleistocene creatures? Yeah. Okay. What's that mean? Pleistocene? From the Pleistocene era. So stuff that's a. Not dinosaurs, other extinct stuff.

Gotcha. More recently extinct. So you get, I mean, because you got the woolly mammoth, right? So you might want to just go size, but you know, you could go see an elephant.

For me, for me, there's two. So I feel like thylacine for you is going to be up there. I'm taking that off the table. I figure we're focusing on like true Pleistocene fauna. No,

but thylacine's there. You've got to put it back on the table. Okay, then thylosine. Really? Yes. I don't know if I believe that. Uh,

I think when push came to shove, if you're thinking I could see a saber-toothed tiger or a thylacine. I think you might want something. And here's the thing, because I know at some point, colossal help me see a thylacine. So I'll take that out of the table.

Take that off the table. I have two then. Okay. Do you want to do yours or should I do mine? Oh, look at that. I think I'm in the same spot as Peter. I think I would, yeah,

I would have to go saber-tic tiger. I mean, look at this thing. It's like a bear cat with fangs. It's incredible. Different variations of the coloring. I'd say this is probably not. number one, Megatherium,

the giant ground sloth. Oh, yeah. I just think it's a giant ground sloth. It didn't eat meat or anything. So it's kind of like an elephant, you know,

in the sense of I could probably, like look at the size chart over there next to a person. It looks. I feel like I could go in with that without having a huge problem. It does have some giant claws on it. It looks like an ogreish human.

Like it's, it's gate. Imagine that though. Imagine walking in and looking at that thing. That is pretty fucking cool. Yeah. That is big boy. That's,

that's in the top. The other one is, and I'm blanking on the name right now, Kyle, see if you can find these quickly. They're giant extinct armadillos. Oh, yeah. We've talked about this. The Native Americans used to hunt them or the early people. I don't know if it's a Native American. These guys, yeah, glypidon.

Thank you. The glycidons. Now, people used to hunt these and use their domed armadillo shells as an igloo. Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, it's a perfect igloo. Yeah, look at that. That's like a cool rendering there.

But I think of those, too, it's got to be Megatherium. You get your food. You hunt it. You literally just have like a lifetime supply of food there. You push it into the shell and you just go live in it with your family. Really? So you'd go both of those over, over woolly mammoth, over mastodon. Well, look, can I explain why?

Of course. Okay, so I know where your argument's going to go against this. But a woolly mammoth is just seeing a shaggy elephant. Right. Seen it. Check that box. Seen the elephant. A saber-tooth tiger is just seeing.

being a giant clouded leopard. Clouded leopards are basically saber-tooth tigers. This guy, I get it. This is just a giant armadillo. The other one's just a giant sloth. But there's something like, you're just upsizing a big cat and you're just making an elephant hairy.

This is like major upsizing of an armadillo. Or taking a sloth and turning it into a fucking big foot. You know what I mean? Like to me, it's like, it's weird enough. You're getting into Jurassic Park territory with that thing. Yeah, that's how I feel. It's huge. Yeah.

Is that something you could? can buy. It is. The giant sculpture. Oh, man. If I put that in my garden, my wife would kill me. Oh, you got it. Kyle, click that. Let's see how much a giant, a life-size glyptagon sculpture is. I think you're going to have to have someone make it. Oh, I thought this was an, dude, Ali Baba. Go to Alibaba, Kyle, real quick. Have you guys ever seen some of the stuff available on Ali Baba? Go to Ali Baba and just type in Glyptodon. Dude, you, you'll, look, there it is. There it is. Oh, wow. Five grand. I can get a lot. Five grand. I can get a a life-size animatronic glypidon out of China.

Oh, wow. And it moves. And it moves. Yeah. That's not that price. I think you should probably order that. I think I should too. There are some tariffs coming where this may become very challenging.

But right now, I could order a garden glypidon. No one would say anything about it. By the way, there's five different sellers that make life-size animatronic glypidon. Click that verified one right there, Kyle. Looks like they have a few sales. It's only two to four grand. There's a video? Kyle, go to the video.

It's only two to four grand. But look at this. You get a fucking walrus, a giant penguin. There we go. You're on the video, you loon. Where? Right there. Back up.

One more up. Oh, boy. Somewhere. Here we go. This is good pod. There we go. Look at that. Wow.

So it's just kind of moving its head around. Yeah. I don't think it walks. No. But imagine that in my garden for $4,000. That's good. You should put it to where it's visible. Like in the bushes, though.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So where people driving by are like, what the fuck? And then you add like. like crazy guy. Remember the Billy Big Mouth Bass where you walk by and the bass starts singing? You add that sensor to it. So when somebody walks by, it just starts moving its head in the bushes. What does it sing? There's definitely like a Philly Big Mouth Bass. No, this thing.

Oh, good question. How much wood could a woodchuck chunk? I don't know. There's definitely a fine line between like, you know, being, this being cool and your neighbor's thinking you're like the white trash hillbilly guy. Extremely fine. To be clear, if I'm ever just like, I mean, I'm already eccentric, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, If I'm ever a very eccentric billionaire, I'm going to have a garden full of these shenanigans things. You got to get a whole zoo. Yeah. Why not? What is that thing? That is, oh, that would be a good one.

The woolly rhino. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Imagine seeing a woolly rhino. So you could buy an animatronic woolly rhino from the same seller. Yep. Look at that for the low price of $4. Dude, I'm telling you, Patrick, the next show you pitch. Yeah.

You need an outrageous prop that you're like, there's no way that exists. Pop on all to Alibaba and throw it in the search bar. It base a whole show around this, in fact. Dude, it's bonkers what's on there. Oh, man. I mean, it makes me, now I'm just trying to think of a show that I could pitch that would be an excuse to buy a bunch of these things. Exactly.

A hundred percent. Yep, 100%. And then what do you do with them afterwards? You're like, well, I did this for a show for a Shark Week show many years ago. I bought, you can probably find it on Alibaba, giant life size inflatable whales that they use for theme parks. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I use them to actually tow behind.

the boat and use, yeah, like these things. But I mean, this whale was, it was like the size of that one. Like, see that third one down? I spent like four grand on it. And now I still have it sitting in storage. I have no idea what to do with it. It's funny. When it's not inflated, how big is it?

It's as big as a coffee table. It's massive. Your storage locker must be a site to behold. Oh, it's lunacy. It's utter lunacy. Yeah. Anyway, just look. Go ahead, go.

No, I was going to say real quick. I don't know if it was pointed out. I didn't know this, but after scanning through the article, there was two sets, there was multiple births, like months apart from each other for the dire wolf. Oh, I didn't know that they'd announce that. I was being very cryptic. That's what I was like, oh, there's three, huh?

Yeah. Gotcha. Oh, there you go. I thought that was interesting. It is. Man, so they've made, they've bought, they've brought three animals back from extinction officially. A couple generations.

That's wild. It makes me think they have other things done that have just not been announced. Maybe. Yeah, it must be. No, I can tell you that. Nothing else is done. That hasn't been announced. But there are many other things that are being worked on. You know what's interesting? Colossal bioscience is a company that's based in the U.S., right? And Dallas.

We have all kinds of regulations and rules here. I feel like another company in a less restrictive potential. Not even. And can I tell you why? Why? Because it's a whole new space. It's like AI. there is no, what laws are there on companies that profit off of the extinction? It doesn't exist. You know what I mean? Like no laws have been written to regulate it. Sure. So that makes sense.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're still figuring all this shit out. Right. Like it hasn't like warmed its way through the Supreme Court yet for sure, right? Which is why like in entertainment, everyone's figuring out like what can we do with like AI generated video and images and nobody knows yet.

Yeah. Well, so you just made a comment like, oh, it's coming. So I'm assuming that like colossal is planning a risk mitigation. Oh, I mean, there's already naysayers and this, that, and the other thing. But I feel like today's news alone is going to hit the Supreme Court. Oh, I mean, this is like, this is in now mainstream news. 100%. It was kind of a niche thing.

100%. And now it's going to be a big thing. Yeah. Yeah. So can we move on to something else? Have you gotten it out of your system? I'll try to. I'll try to stay focused on other things.

Speaking of how networks are dealing with AI, did you get that email from Discovery maybe three weeks ago? I don't think so. About using AI in your shows and stuff? No, no. So they set out an email that's like, we're unsure what our position on using AI to recreate scenes and generate media is. But right now you can use it. You just have to let us know exactly when it's AI and will decide whether it's viable or not. So what, I'm just trying to think, what would an application even be? Like a re-cre show.

Well, you remember that the first one that SORA came out, which was like the initial chat GPT's version of the video AI. When they came out, they showed a scene. And I remember we watched it, Pat. The mammoths in the snow, that one. Well, there was that, but there was also that scene where they went back to like the old west or something and did just like a drone shot aerial. Oh, that's right.

And you could not even tell the difference. Yeah, this one right here. Yes, right here. just like incredible bro. If you're listening, take a look at come and tune in and you can see the gold rush as generated by SORA. But I can tell you right now,

like where Kyle and I and the rest of our YouTube team are working on a YouTube video that is a storytelling video. Yeah. And we're filling out all the visuals using this, using Sora, just like this. Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure people are going to get upset,

but like look at this. Well, yeah. How does the stuff look? Because that video of the old, of the gold rush is meant to look old times. me? Yeah. I think or it just looks like shit. I mean, Kyle, like you weigh in. You've been working on generating

some of that stuff. How does it look? Visually it looks okay. It's just like it doesn't get like features correct. Can you do the teaser like the elephant one I made? Do you know how to find that? Do you know what I'm talking about? Remember the elephant and the fire that I made and I sent it to you? Real quick, real quick. Look at top right on Kyle's

YouTube. Is that Ricky Martin? John Mayer? John Mayer. You've been watching some mayor videos? I love John Mayor. He's a huge John Mayor guy. Interesting. Yeah, huge. Huge.

You're bubble gum tongue. He bought a G-Shok watch that was in partnership with who and John Mayor? John Mayor and Houdinky. Whatever Hodinky is. I don't know who Houdinke is. I don't know. It's this big blue watch thing. And Kyle was like, check this out.

And I was like, I don't know what any of these things are. You guys are obsessed with watches. Yeah. Yeah. Kyle's been my friend in this space. But yeah, but he's got a John Mayor special edition. G-shock watch. Dude, the video-

I know you're such a mayor head. The video AI thing, I think people, like I think the, the talent, the human talent that is needed there is basically, you have to be able to discern and edit out anything that looks like with the hands.

You got to pick out only the shit that actually looks legit because once one little thing looks AI, it knocks you out of the whole thing. You're like, ah, like you get pissed. Like, this is AI. Like, they didn't even take, they put in a prompt and did not even take the time to get rid of the foot garbage.

But it's coming. That's just early stage. You know what I mean? Soon it'll all clean up. Dude, the animal videos, because a lot of people are posting stuff on like fishing boats, pulling stuff out of the ocean. And the humans in the videos, they're all just like standing there like zombies, like just kind of milling about. Kyle, pull up that one where people are scrubbing barnacles off of whales. You know what I'm talking about?

I've had this scent to me, I would say, by no less than 30 people, asking me if this is real and if I should do this and if this is safe for the animals. And I'm like, just stop like this. It doesn't even look kind of real, but people are fucking falling for it. Oh, man. Look at this. Oh, I built this barnacle scrubber for the whales. But if you don't know. It's also the whale.

That's a dead whale. None of it may. Its whole face is now barnacle. Like, what is happening here? You don't know. If you're a layman like me, like, I know tech, so I would be like, now this is bullshit automatically. But I feel like, like, this is easily to fool someone.

Because these videos are like 30 seconds, 15 seconds long. There's a tractor driving on this whale. It looks like he's covered in lucky charms, by the way. What a mess. What a mess. What is this world coming to? I love it. All right.

You know what? We got right into it. Kyle, give me a what's in the news jingle. This is interesting. Yeah. It is. Can I introduce it? Yeah.

No, let me, can I set this up? Yeah. And I'll tell you why. Damn it. Because do you have something you want to do it? I do. Okay, go for it. Oh, well, I sent a text to the group the other day and I said, uh, the headline said,

Influencers new threat to uncontacted tribes warns group after U.S. tourist arrest. And I said to you, well, it looks like Forest and the Nelk started a new trend. Oh, okay. Well, that was the same setup I was going to use. So we're in good shape here. No, so we've all heard of North Sentinel Island, right? We've talked about it many times. It's that island.

Pursu's killed there, right? Yeah, basically everybody that's ever been there has been killed in modern time. By the local uncontacted tribe, the Sentinelese. Literally, like, shot them with an arrow or, like, through a spear and they were killed. Like a lot of arrows, yeah. So for context, if anybody doesn't know this, North Sentinel Island is a Sentinel owned by India, way off the coast of India, that has one of the truly uncontacted tribes in it. It's really cool because the Indian government has said,

like, don't go over there. They don't want this. It's illegal. Highly illegal to step foot on the island. And what's crazy is the Andaman Islands, which are right right next to it, right there. There's cities and towns. They have like a casino on the beach.

Oh, yeah. It's like a beautiful place. And North Sentinel is right off of there, but there's this tribe, the Sentinelese, I believe, that live on North Sentinel Island that do not want Western intervention. They don't want it.

Someone went in there trying to, to preach, convert them. Yeah, a missionary went there. And they killed him. Yeah, and they killed him. A missionary went there, I'd say like four years ago. Something like that. And I heard a really interesting story.

Shit, I don't remember it. But basically, it was that the reason the Sentinelese... I forget, have I told this before this story? I don't know what you're going to say. Why the Sentinlees are so hostile? Have I told that story now? I forget where I heard this and maybe Kyle can find it as we talk about. But somebody recently told me that it's sort of been a lot of...

like hushed, hushed. But the reason that the sentinlees are so hostile is because they're not completely uncontacted. Some missionaries went there like, you know, 70 years ago, 60 years ago. And the preacher

or whatever that went there was a pedophile. Oh my goodness. And he started the children basically. Unbelievable. And, you know, these parents of this tribe found this out and killed him and the other two or three Westerners that were with him. Oh, good. Yeah. And they're like, fuck you. And since then, they've been like, these people are evil.

Like, if they come onto the island, they're just going to rape us, basically. Well, I mean, that is what you would believe. There would be no reason. You have no other experience with these people. This happened. You'd be like, these people are evil motherfuckers. Exactly. And that is, I forget who told me this or where the foundation of this information came from.

But that's why, allegedly, they're so hostile. And because of that and because they're so hostile, the Indian government has said, nobody go there. It's highly illegal. Leave them alone. They want to be uncontacted. Leave them uncontacted. Yeah.

Two, maybe two, three years ago, I'm sure we talked about it on the pod. Another missionary kid tried to go there, rented a boat, got shot down with arrows and died, right? Isn't that what happened? I believe something like that. Maybe you got a missionary. I think he died. Yeah, he died. Pretty sure he died.

Okay. Now, April 4th, a few days ago, a 24-year-old U.S. tourist with a crazy name, I'm not even going to try and pronounce that. Yeah. I know. It doesn't look U.S. Yeah. Mahalo Victoravrovich.

Poliavo. I don't know. I didn't even see that. He's got three names. He goes just by Mahila. Yeah, but he had been there. He had been to Nicobar and the Andaman's three times prepping for this. He went and rented a boat and he boated over to North Sentinel, but he didn't stay there because

he knew he'd be killed like everybody else. And so he dropped off a Diet Coke as an offering to show them, which is fucked, by the way. Yeah, like it's fucked. The whole thing's fucked. Giving them that kind of sugar. Like the whole thing is just fucked. Not even sugar. just garbage like asperting sugar.

Yeah. So this is interesting. I don't know how to say this kid's. Milo. Is that we're calling? Mahilo. Mahilo brought a coconut. I'm sure they never had that before. And a Diet Coke as offerings and used a whistle to attract the tribe before going ashore

for about five minutes where he filmed himself and took samples. Not sure what that means. Sand samples. Oh, sand samples. Thank you. Man. And then I know that he left. Obviously he wasn't killed.

They were probably stoked on the Coke. And he even. was immediately arrested by the Indian government. And I think he posted this. Is there a video of this floating around, Kyle? Oh, he must have. That's got to be how he got, oh, he got, I think he got caught, right? No, he got caught leaving the island. Leaving the island. He was reported. So interestingly enough, because when I read this story, I was curious, I was like, how do people know this? So you can go to North Sentinel Island in a private boat and you have to stay, it's like two miles offshore or something like that. Three miles. Okay. So there's like a, there's like a barrier.

and apparently it's somewhat created a tourist attraction because people will go to that three mile boundary and sit there with high power binoculars and be like

holy shit look there are the sentinelese which I understand I find that really fascinating like I'd kind of love to see a completely uncontacted drive sure

and so yeah I think this guy sort of puts in on his dingy and in the meantime there were several boats you know out of the three mile line being like what is this fucking guy doing

yeah yeah yeah I mean dude it's absolutely insane. Do you feel somewhat responsible for this forest? Of course. Yeah, no, I completely... No, I talked to Mikeilo or whatever the hell we're saying his name is, and I was like, you should do this.

I feel like... No, I don't feel responsible. This is just stupid. Is he... What kind of trouble is this guy in? I think he's going to jail. Like, serious jail. To be clear, where we went, I just want to clear something up here. Like, that is a very, very remote tribe. They have T-shirts. They have cell phones.

Like, you know, they're very remote, but they're fully, like... They'll take trade from Western as much as they can. We brought them candy and stuff, and they were stoked. Right. So you're saying that the title that the Nelks posted was just clickbait when it said it was an uncontacted tribe. Well, it's YouTube, but I don't even remember what the title was. I'm just effing with you.

Yeah. Now, my point is like an uncontacted tribe that is illegal to visit that does not want to be contacted, should be left the fuck alone. Well, dude, you know, like, so do we know his motivation behind this? Because the last two people that did it, including the one, I think it said it was seven years ago, that guy, they're trying to convert these people to some religion. What the fuck, dude? Like, why is that the motivation to get them, you know, to try and save them from what? Hell? I just don't get it. I have an interesting take on that. Can I give you my...

Yeah, I was posing the question. So, okay, so step back from this specific story for a second. Throughout human history, the majority of powerful people, cultures, and societies has been to colonize the planet, right? Whether it's the Roman Empire taking it by force, the British Empire colonizing through settlement, in today, the religious empires colonizing through religion, like Christianity and missionaries and things like that. And in today's world, something that I think we never really talk about is economic colonization, which is absolutely happening when, you know, like the Chinese government goes to a place like Mozambique and is like, hey, we'll take all your resources in exchange for some bridges. Right. You know?

And throughout human history, it's kind of weird to me, and I'm sure this has been summed up better than I'm doing it. But why do we pretend that colonization isn't taking place or isn't attempted to being taking place 100% of the time when it is? It's either by warring, by religion, by resources, or economy, or there's always some group of people trying to take over and colonize the entire planet with their tool, whatever. that tool happens to be. And spread their kind of like cultural, cultural and belief system, you know, to try and whatever it is. There's take over. And that, that to me, it's really weird, dude. And I think that's what, you know, don't get me wrong, like missionaries did that, right? They went around the planet. I mean, you can go to these, that tribe, the crusades, I mean, the crusades, everything, but that tribe that I contact, that I went and sat with, I don't know

if you guys ever saw this, but I did a show called Island of the Walking Shark and we went and sat with a tribe in Papua New Guinea that was pretty much uncontacted. You know, like they knew, same as the Vanuatu tribe. Like, they knew Western people, blah, blah. Their names were like Jonathan and Samantha. And I'm talking about people who live in mud huts and fish every day and wear grass skirts. And it's because missionaries had been through there, you know? And from then on, they were Christians and they had Christian names.

And it was a combination of Christianity and their traditional beliefs. But it was like this, it's so weird to go through the jungle and see a guy. with a shark jaw mask holding a spear and his name is Jonathan. And he speaks English. You know what I mean? And it's like that's, that's what it is. It's weird that humans have that, like, that drive to want to do that, to, like, expand their, their culture, their, their system of belief and everything. And there's no end to it, you know, like everybody has their passion and wants to do these things for some reason. Like, you know, like your passion is not conservation, conservatism. That's it.

But you know, you would love to spread that because, you know, your goal is that you want to make the planet a better place. So I guess kind of like the missionaries see it in a different way and that's why they're doing it. But it's not. It's not in a different way. They see it exactly the same way. They want to save people. Right. Right. Everybody, anybody that I think has ever done that believes that what they believe in is better. Pat, what's your passion? What would you like to, how would you like to, what knowledge would you like to spread to these uncontacted tribes? Nothing. Nothing. See, I like that.

I don't want to tell anyone anything. That's true. That's true. So this guy, he tried to go two other times. Is that what it said? The Diet Coke guy? Yeah, he tried to go in 2024 with an inflatable kayak but was stopped. Wow.

And then he made another unsuccessful attempt in January of this year. And then he made it this time. Traveled through 22 miles of open sea in an inflatable boat with an engine. Wow. That's pretty crazy. And so he was arrested two days later. Okay. And they went through the footage on his GoPro.

And I think they may have, I mean, I don't think it came out. That's unfortunate. I kind of like to see it. This is all just for YouTube. Is that what it says? I mean, I have to think so, right? I'm actually quite, why film it? He filmed a video on the shore.

Kyle, why do that? Could you search his name? Wild. Let's see how many, like, followers are YouTube? to be as because I'm curious. But Kyle, you have to type his name in without copying and pasting it. I'm always curious to see because, you know, I watch tons of trashy reality TV and some of the worst people on the shows get the most followers.

Sure. And a lot of fans who are like very positive with them. People hate follow them. But like, you'll see somebody. Hate follow. Well, and I'm like, I'm like, what is the appeal to follow these people? And I'm always interested to see like after these stunts, does it work? Like, this guy is huge in the news right now because of this.

but did it actually net him any like sort of... See if you can go to his YouTube channel. He's a YouTuber, right? Yeah, it does say it is being... Known for his outrageous travel stunts. It is being quantified as he is a YouTuber. Okay. I think his channel's been taken down or something.

Like, Kyle's getting nothing here. Wow, there you go. See, don't do this, folks. You'll get your shit taken down and possibly pushed in. So, as it was 2018, that they killed the... What's it called when you go on? The thing we've been talking about for 15 minutes? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. He's been reading the article. I know. It's helpful, actually. It is. This is him. This is him? He has 2,000 subscribers.

Oh my God. Are you serious? He's only got like seven videos. But he's getting there. He's getting there. No, I'm kidding. What, uh, wait, does he have gazillions of views? This is insane what he's doing.

This is wild, dude. What does that mean? What is a neo-orientalist? Does that mean anything? Am I crazy? No, it means it means absolutely nothing. I'm waiting for the day. where I can just speak out loud and say like, hey, chat, GPT, what is a neo-orientalist?

And the room will tell me. Oh, it's coming. Did you see what Apple announced with their AirPods? No. Do you see this? No. Air pods are going to have an update in the next like three months where you put the AirPods in. Any language you speak in gets translated into your AirPods. Wow. That's going to make traveling easier. Can you believe that? That's crazy. I was like blown away when I read this and I was like, nah, it's kind of right. Wait, so how will that work? Hang on. So I go to France. Yeah. And someone's speaking French to me and I've got AirPods in and it's going to translate it to English. Live to English. Yeah. And I think the way it works is through an app on your phone.

I mean, maybe Kyle can find the answer here. You got like turn it on. Yeah, probably, right? And I imagine if they also have, I have no idea. But I would think if they have the app and the AirPods, then you guys can just go back and forth. Is this good? I feel like this is good for the world.

No. I'll tell you why not. It's making us dumber like all technology. Well, yeah. What is the incentive to learn a new language now? Well, that's true, but I mean, lack of miscommunication, lack of communication has got to be like the number one reason for conflict. Okay, so just real quickly, the way it works is, yeah, I'm talking to someone who's French. Yep.

They say something. Oh, ho ho. Hoor. Exactly. And then it goes, ho ho, ho, hello, into my thing, right? And then I say hello, and then the phone out loud will say bonjour. Bonjour? To the other person. Hello.

Interesting. Interesting. Okay. So you're talking into the earphones and the phone talks to them. Yes. Gotcha. It's pretty clever, though. It is? Yeah. Wait, why is it bad, though? I think it just makes us dumber. Like one of my face, so one, it makes us dumber. Two, it removes all incentive to learn new languages. And three, the part that I don't like the most is there is nothing more fun than fun might not be the right word. But it teaches you to be dynamic when you're sitting there with a, broken down fucking outboard engine on a beach in Mexico and you know about 15 words in spanglish and you're like, no say, problema, you know, and you're like, yeah, it's great. Yeah, no working, no working. And the guy's like, this guy's an idiot, but I'm definitely going to help him.

Like, if we're both pulling out our fucking, you know, AirPods and he's like, hey, you just need to change the starter. It's like, oh, there's no fun in that. You know what I mean? Like, you just lost all of that, like, the, like, the picturesary game and the hands gestures and like, I love that. Well, you know, you know. No, before the Tower of Babel bullshit, man. We were all speaking one the same language. What? The Tower of Babel.

I don't know what this is. Oh, it's a story in like, I think it's the Bible where God built. God got mad because people were building a tower up to the sky, to the heavens, I believe. And I'm sure I'll get corrected. But, and he got very angry with the people for trying to reach heaven. So that's when he struck, I don't know if he struck the tower down, but he made it so that they all spoke differently. languages and that is why we all speak different languages. Interesting.

And you're saying it's a fact? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. That's what he's saying. Just to be as much as a fact is the world is 2,000 years old. I mean, I know very little Spanish. Like I took two years of Spanish in middle school and high school.

Mm-hmm. Or three maybe. So, but like, it is fun using it when you have to. It's great. It's great. Yeah. I love it. El Benio.

So my wife told me this. There you go. My wife told me this. She goes, Rhodes is starting real school in August. right? Like he's moving up from First grade? Yeah, he's starting first grade in August. I don't know what they call it here. He's going to real school. And she's like, by the time

he graduates from that school, he'll speak Spanish. I was like, you're a fucking liar. And she's like, no, he takes Spanish every day. It's a requirement. I was like, listen, lady. I took French every single day of my life for seven years and I can say less than 10 words in French. Like, you did? Oh, yeah. Wow. We had to have an elective language when I went

to school at his age, like junior school, and I took French, I literally know less than 10 words in French. I mean, it doesn't really work unless you're actually surrounded by the language. And that's what I said to her. I was like, no, she's like, no, no, I can still speak Spanish. It's like, no, you cannot. Like, you're a liar. You're fooling yourself. When you get home, remember this. I want you to memorize this phrase. Just say, Tiena, un pito is my piccana way. Kyle thinks it's funny. So whatever you said, spicy. Tiena

Tienna. Is this, are you trying to do Spanish? I think he is. Jena, Wino, Tienna.

Tienna. Why don't you translate? It would be Tengo, which means I have. Shut your fucking butt. This is what the Mexicans I worked for are worked with

on the far back. None of them said Tienna. They absolutely said Tiena. Tiana, Un Pito S. Moipcano. Yeah, that's right.

What does it mean? What does it mean? I don't know. I believe he's saying he has a small penis. Well, you have a small penis. But he's calling it

pito. A pito. It's slang. Oh, okay. I like that. Okay. I got a nice pito right now. Your wife, she's got a small penis.

I will. Okay. You should. Let's play a game. Kyle, we got a jingle. Play a generic jingle, Kyle. Come on, Kyle. Oh, my God.

He's all thumbs. That was a wonderful. What's this game, Kyle? It's a new one. I like it. It's a new one via Edwin, beastly buzzword quiz. How's it work?

I'm going to read a various word on the screen here and you guys are going to take a take turns guessing what that is if it's a behavior yeah if it's if it's a behavior or what it is essentially okay I say we go Peter to Forest boom boom yeah I think that's smart

yep okay first up klepto paracetism this is a monkey that steals things yeah I mean look clepto is stealing parasitism is being a parasite yep it's a behavior where one animal, oh, do we have to guess what animal does it?

No, just the behavior. Oh. It's where one animal steals another animal's parasites. Ooh, interesting. I'm going to say it is something where, and birds do this a lot, where they're stealing chicks, eggs, items from other birds' nests. So it's like parasitizing a bird's nest and stealing everything that it has, including its babies. I'm going to give points for everyone.

Wow. Yeah, so it says here, when an animal steals food or resources from another animal. Okay. Why would they call it that? It's not, that's wrong. Why? Because the word for that is an animal just stole something. Right.

Plectoparasatism sounds very formal, and it means they're addicted to stealing and that they're actually being a parasite on something. So the examples that give us here are hyenas, chipmunks, and frigates. Shananigans. What's a frigate do? You're a frigate. What is a frigate? A bird.

Yeah, beautiful bird. I call kind of bullshit on that one. That's, that's it. But we got points. Don't call it. Okay, sorry. You know what? That's a great word.

Thank you. Let's move on. Moving on. Thanatosis. Go ahead, Peter. This is when you have, Thanos has the hammer, right? That's Thor.

Thanos is the big purple bad guy that snaps his fingers and wipes out half the universe. Okay. Thanatosis is when an animal, oh, Jesus, just snaps its fingers and. It's okay. That's interesting. Penis falls off. Of course, yeah. Yeah, this is not sure. Santa. I don't know.

What does Thana mean in Latin? I don't know. I couldn't think of that either. Kyle, any hint? You have a hint? You want to hint, Kyle. Just a little hint of some type. Anything that in the right up. There's probably something to do with Thanos.

Like, I haven't watched the movies, but I kind of understand the character a little bit. Like, there's probably some correlation with what he does. does in his name. I'm going to guess that thanatosis has to do with dominating the food chain to become some kind of a ruler

in their small little ecological niche. Okay. All right. Pat just defers to answer it all. Yeah. I can't think of anything. The worst sound. The delay on the buzzer. Tell us. Tell us. So this means thanatisosa.

Thanasinthas. Is playing dead to avoid predators. Ah, yes. Thanos does not do that, by the way, and I should have known that. That's one I really... Same with the next word. Autonomy. I know what that means.

It's not autonomy. It's autotomy. Autotomy. That's a good point. Autotomy. So that's the next word? What's autotomy? Autotomy.

Autotomy. So this could mean, God, like auto asphyxiation means something like that yourself is doing. Why is he going straight to that? It's something like so. Why are you going straight to that? This is when an animal right after it's born, the species of animal, the babies just go out

on their own and then they don't have any help from their parents. Oh good. That's a good guess. That is a great guess. It's much better than anything I'm going to guess. It's when an animal moves around for no reason. No discernible plan. I love it. I'm going to say autotomy is

like an ant. When the way a chameleon can independently move its eyes Oh, that's a good one. Good. Nobody, nobody got close. Nope. Autotomy is voluntarily dropping a body part to escape danger. Damn it, I knew that too. See, I said I knew it. It's so Maybe we should just not try to decipher with a word and just name actual behaviors. Yeah, but what's so annoying is I literally went and caught

with my kid over the weekend. And I was like, there's a word for when, because he grabbed a lizard by the tail and it dropped part of its tail. And I told him not to do it. And I was like, there's a word for this, buddy. Remind me when we get home. We'll look it up. Completely forgot to do it.

Send him the podcast. Yeah, just have him listen. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sit through this 60 minute show, son. All right. What's next?

Next is. Eck. That's the best part of the show. Ecstis. Jesus. Ectesis. When did you develop a stutter? Pat, what's the proper pronunciation?

I don't know. Ecadis. Echdysis. What is it, Peter? What's happening here? Gosh. Ecti... Like, this is not even an...

Like a word with letter... It's not a word with letters. Echdysis. It's so hard to just think of a random behavior. Okay, this is when a bird... Uh... Makes a very loud, mating call and then drops a feather.

Still hung up on the dropping thing. Yeah. I think this is when an animal destroys its own habitat to leave no trace. Oh, I like that. This is like dices. I got nothing here. I'm going to go no guess. I'm going to go

no guess. Pack on a no guess. You only get one no guess. Everybody gets one no guess. Echitis is shedding an outer layer or molting. Oh my God. I should get half a point. I get half a point. Why does it need a fancy name? It doesn't.

Bird drops a feather. Come on. Shenanigans. I'll give you half point, Peter. Thank you. Oh, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. All right, let's do two more.

Yeah, make them good. I feel so dumb. This is literally my field and I've got none right. Well, these are stupid words. It's called molting. They're very hard. They also have other terms that are already like... That's the problem.

Each of these words has another term. Yes. It's just a longer word that a professor would say. Correct. No sense. All right. Next is lecking. Lecking with two K's.

Lecking. What's lecking? Lecking is like when your significant other, let's say you're, we can go birds again. Sure. Is it's constantly licking you until the point that it's nagging, nagging or necking or lecking. So licking until it's naggy. Licking it until it's naggy. So excessive licking of the mate.

So it's like necking. So it's just like necking. But it's licknecking. But it's licknecking. But you don't like it. Okay. Yeah. And I don't think that's it.

Quiet, you. I think it's when the adult male of a species breastfeeds at the teat of its mane. Oh, I like that. I like that. It licks up the extra little bit of milk. Oh, my God.

That's fantastic. Often seen in humans. I think, I was writing this down. I think that lecking is what Bower birds do, where they collect things for their nests that aren't. aren't natural. Is that right? Is it something like that? I've seen that behavior. Do you know what I mean? Where the Bowerbirds go collect all the blue bottle caps and trinkets?

I think that's what Lacking is. A half point to forest. That's a half point for Forrest. Okay. How close was that? Lacking is males gather in a group and compete in displays to attract females. Definitely didn't deserve a half point. Why does he get a half point? How you could possibly get a half point? I think you said it's like a display to do the...

Yeah, but... He doesn't even want that. I'll take it. I want to be tied with Peter. This is BS. I mean, I should get a half point just for saying it was male. So just to be clear, Lacking is peacocking. And once again, there's another term for it.

Yeah. In a group. It's a cool arena. All right. I do this because I want to see if Peter gets it. All right. Next one. Crupuscular activity.

Crepuscular. Didn't need the word activity in there. crepuscular crepuscular this is you know yes like

when you see like a squir a kangaroo will like stand up on its hind legs and just kind of like flexic flex its chest

crepuscular yeah it's doing crepuscular activity flexing I like that a lot I'm just going to quickly get a point here

it's when an animal is really active at sun around the times of sunrise and sunset. Yep, dawn and dusk. Correct. So one point for me, none for forest. Yes, thank you for taking that. I'm in the lead.

All right. All right. Last one. This one's for five points. Okay. Doesn't seem fair. Natal Philopatry. Ah, yes. Of course, of course.

Of course. Philopatra. So this is something that has to do with like a baby animal. Yeah. That's a delicious. type of dough. So this is when, I'll just say, this is when the brother or sister

of a small, just-born animal licks the excess milk off the nipple. Wait, so you just used the same thing, Pat did you just took mail out of us? It's a hard game. It's a hard game. I think it's when an animal's mum passes away and another animal, another female of the species takes care of the baby.

I don't like that you know the actual answer. I don't think that's the actual answer. I think natal philopatry is when something is born prematurely, like underdeveloped, and then gets developed and then gets developed externally, like a kangaroo, you know, like a marsupial. No.

Nobody gets the five. Apparently not. What is it? Natal philopatra is returning to your birthplace to mate. Oh, for fuck sakes. that's just called returning to your birth. Now, I think that one deserves a word. Yeah.

Also, very strange. Yeah. Like, imagine if, like, to have sex with your wife, you had to go back to the hospital you were born. Like, it's very weird. Don't do that. What animals do that, Kyle? Sea turtles. Lots of animals.

Really? Salmon. Sea turtles. Yeah. Eel is the other example. Yeah. But, like, think of sea turtles. They always go back to the same beaches where they were born.

Where they were born. Yeah. Good. game. That was actually fun. It's really good. It makes me feel really dumb. You know what's the worst part about this is I 110% knew and had to study all these words in college 20 years ago. Gone. Don't remember French. Don't remember any of these words. Literally not one of them. It's, well, I guess I knew crepuscular, but the others are just poof like they were never there. Good times. Sad. It's weird the shit you do remember and then the stuff that just comes in and out.

Because none of these words, I mean, I use crepuscular as a word because I love. I love. look for a lot of animals that are active during dawn and dusk. It's part of my every day. Sure. I literally already don't remember what lecking is, what shedding skin, right? No, it's peacocking. Peacocking. That's right.

I don't remember any of them. It's not useful to me. So it's gone. It's out of my brain. I truly don't know what thanatosis is. I've completely forgotten. Playing dead to avoid predators, right? Yep.

That's correct. It's like what a possum does. I don't remember any of them. Also, also calls possuming. It doesn't need to be called thanatosis. Playing possum. Yep. All right.

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