Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Forrest Galante Reveals A Potential Extinct Animal in Madagascar

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

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Here we go. Hey. Hey, Peter. How are you? What's up? You came in fire in this morning. I've been pinning NAD, bro. Yeah, yeah.

I've been watching Manosphere videos. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know if a lot of people know what pin in Nat is. Oh, they know. Our audience knows what Pinn and Nat is. Anybody who's on social media knows what Pinn and Nat is. I'm shooting up peptides into my fat.

Show everybody your scar that you showed off. Come on. Dude, I'm not lifting my shirt up on camera. Show up your scar. I got stretch marks. Like I had a baby. Please, please show off your scar. Hell no. Well, that's no fun.

Yeah, he's not going to do it. All right. Well, welcome to the Wild Times. We're in the studio today podcasting. I'm your host, Forrest Galante, broologist, joined with the two other hosts, Patrick and Peter, Brofesser and Broducer. What's up?

How we doing, guys? Good. Good. It feels like it's been quite a while since we've been in the studio. It does feel that way. I thought that driving in today. I don't know why. Busy.

It's because you're busy. than normal, I bet. New Year. Yeah. A lot of shit going on. You've already been in the studio this year, though. I don't know why. But here we are, and what have you guys

got going on in your life before we get into stories? Well, so you've, like, been traveling all over the world. I haven't been. I've been home. My wife left town for a week. That was great. My dog tour at CCL. Oh, man.

So I've been carrying... I had a week solo. with the two kids and I have to carry my dog to go poop and pee everywhere. So that was a great week for me. He had a big dog too. Yeah, you remained pretty active in our text thread. I was, yeah, that's shocking. And that's not a lap dog either.

No, like a 70-pound German shepherd. Yeah, exactly. Man, I hurt my back, obviously. Yeah, yeah. So that's what's been going on with me. Yeah, man. You went to India. Yeah, back in India.

We're doing more of the same, basically. More TV show, more YouTube, all kinds of good stuff. Have there, are there any, was there anything, I don't know what that was. I was about to get furious. Suddenly there was, it sounded like a beehive in my ear. Are there is the, so you're doing all the stuff at Ventara, right? Yeah. Is there enough, are there enough species there to where you're like, oh, I haven't even interacted with this species yet?

So much so that I, this is embarrassing. even say. I learn that a new animal exists at least once a day. Welcome to my world since I started this podcast. It's unbelievable that you like, aren't you like, holy shit like I thought I knew every animal. Bro, it is crazy. I literally every day, I'm like, I've never seen that before. I didn't even know that I existed. What is that? And they're like, oh, it's a blah, blah, blah. It's a red-legged Sarayama. I'm like, of course it is. You know, what's that? That's cool, though, man. It's been really cool. Yeah, I've learned, I've learned and seen so many new creatures that I either, you know, would have seen in passing in a field guide or something and then

all of a sudden they're there. Yeah. Yeah. What's, what's an example of one that just happened recently? Well, like I just said, the red-legged Sarayama. What is that? Wait, Kyle, do not take a guess before we pull it up. It's a mammal, I'm guessing. I'm just say it's, no, it's probably not. It's very deer-like. It's a red-legged deer. I was going to say it's a mammal, but now I'm going to go back on it. I think it's a I think it's a lizard of some sort. So, good guess is. It's a bird.

Okay. That is basically the South American equivalent of like a secretary bird. So they, they stomp out snakes and throw snakes in the air. Wow. And it's super cool. So I hid in the bushes and grabbed a rubber snake and put it on a fishing line. And they let this red leg at Sarayama out in its area and it's in its area.

And it's walk area. Just like that. See how it's following that lady there? Yeah. And I chucked the rubber snake out. And the thing came. over and stomped it and threw it in the air and then we gave it a piece of meat as a prize. I didn't even know this bird existed. And come to find out what I thought was really cool

that just like this, so I did exactly this basically. Come to find out that farmers in Brazil used to go out and catch these birds and raise them, hand raised them and then let them out in their fields because they'd kill and eat all the snakes and rats so that they could actually live symbiotically with people in Brazil with farmers in South America. I thought it was just the whole, like, I didn't even know this bird existed. Are they flightless? Uh, no, but they're definitely not very good flyers. They're gliders. Yeah, exactly. No, I mean, what a useful animal. It's great. They just laser focused on killing, obliterating any snake they see. Uh, yeah. And it was super fun to do and it was cool hiding in the

bushes and doing this. I got to fly a bald eagle. What? That's an insane statement to make. You sat on a bald eagle and flew? No, I, I, I like did falconry with it. So, yeah. Oh, I saw Yeah, that was fucking crazy. Dude, done some crazy. Wingspan on that thing, bro, is like as tall as you. Unreal. Four feet tall. Yeah, and obviously I knew bald eagles existed, but, you know, there's just so much

cool stuff there. Yeah, it's really interesting. Can we talk about birds just for one more second? Because I saw a post came across my oak wood desk. Oakwood. Japan, yeah, oak wood. Japan had an issue with crow nests on electric infrastructure. so they went and destroyed all of the nests

and what do you think the crows did about this? Retaliated. Well, don't fucking... God damn it, Kyle. Based on Kyle's Google search, I'm going to say it prompted the local crow population to just build more nests, far in excess of what they actually needed.

So instead of just rebuilding the nests, they were just like, fuck these guys. We're just going to like... We're going to build a million nests. We know that the humans don't like that we have nests there, so we're just going to really... overdo it. And these are animals

that have to like go out and get food and like they don't just like get go to the grocery store. Like they have to spend energy doing this. This is what they're choosing to spend their energy on. I like that. I like that. I like that a lot. It's very sarcastic. Yeah. Snarky. Like what do you think like this the experts

are thinking they're like oh fuck they're just like they're getting back at us? Yeah, I swear to God. I'm pretty sure that they do because crows are like what? They say they have the intelligence of like a four year old. But I think it's more because they like remember and take vengeance on. There was this one.

There's no four-year-old who's smart enough to do that. Dependence. Or build a nest. I did think that my four-year-old son put penises on my wheels the other day. You're welcome. I don't want to get into that. Well, hold on. Let's set this up for a second.

So what was this? About two months ago, a month and a half ago. Something. We were in the studio. And I told you guys. that I pranked one of you. Yes. Totally forgot immediately.

Yeah, but you got upset because you assumed I targeted you. I knew it was me, but by the end of the session, I completely forgot. And what had happened? I drove home and then, like,

maybe four days later, my wife comes into the house after going to, like, a school visit for my kid who's about to maybe go to this school. And she goes... Not allowed. First of all, she's like fury,

like mad. like what? Like what is it? She's mad at me. And I'm like, what the fuck? Like I, I, I didn't do shit. Like, I've done nothing but be nice. Like, I'm been working on it. And then she's like, go look at the car. And, and I walk outside and there's these dicks on, on, like, where the caps of the air tube, but the tires go. And I'm just like, what the fuck? I actually made a video about it when I found it because I was like, this needs to be recorded. And I was just like, well, because it was at least, it was like almost a week after Forrest said he did a prank. I still didn't remember that, that it was him.

And I was just like, how could this? I was like, and so I went in there and tried to argue whether somebody at the school did it. Like it wasn't any of my friends. Like I'm fucking 40 years old. Like my friends, like, what are you talking about? And then I've come to find out that it was Forrest. Forrest put dicks on my car. I did that.

And I should have known. Recorded content whilst doing it. I filmed myself. And I should have fucking known because I remembered then, I was like, on the way, I do, I remember in the, on the way to the studio, he was like, uh, what kind of car you have? Like, not smooth at all. And I was just like, oh, yeah, it's a white. And like, and like, I never. Not true. Not smooth. I did it very smoothly. I said, hey, Peter, where are you? I thought I saw your car in the parking lot. Yeah, it was nonsense. And he goes, no, I'm not there yet. I was like, what? You don't drive a blue suver. And then I was like, no, it's a white problem. Yeah, I was like, oh, okay, cool. The funny thing is, because now I remember back, you were acting peculiar because normally I, so you were standing outside on your phone.

That's right, pretending to be on my phone. And I parked. It did look like you were pretending to be on your phone. No, it did. Oh, well, then I wasn't doing a very odd. Yeah, there's the fucking dick, nuts and all. No, it seemed like, it just seemed odd because normally you would at least like, acknowledge. Yeah. And like, but you kind of just were like, acting really upset. And like,

there's no acknowledgement that I was there. It shows I'm really bad at acting. Like, I don't know how to do that. But, but here we are putting penises on. My wife is so mad, dude. My favorite, my favorite part from one of your videos is there's a moment where you get the first one on. And it's like, you're like the dad in a Christmas story where you're really admiring it. You're like, ah, would you look at that. Yeah. It was nice. It was well placed. And I didn't watch. I hate you. Let me hear Forrest with sound.

Crank taking place on Peter today. He just rolled in. He was five minutes late to the studio. This is his car. And I pretended that I was on a phone call, which I wasn't because I'm sticking penises on his tired. Dude. You're so childish.

Yes, that's correct. Go to the next one. How good is that? It's a nice little dick and balls. Fuck you. Got all four of them lined up. Absolutely. I really, I really mentally.

Driving around with them too for like a week or four days, five days. The school is, that's wild. I mean, you could get banned from the school. That might be a sex crime. I argue with my wife for like 10 minutes. I was like, somebody at the fucking school did it so that their kid gets picked. I was just like, I don't, like my friends would not, like, there's no opportunity. I don't hang out with anybody.

Like, what are you talking about? You're welcome. I really mentally grappled with putting all four on or just putting like one somewhere on the back more subtly. But I figured all four was the right way because then when you notice, you really notice. Well, listen, dude, the problem is now you've got to live on edge because I've been plotting. Bring it on. If you've got to 1-800 bedbugs.com or whatever, I will slit your throat. No, I've already been talking to chat GPT.

What is something that will not actually damage my relationship with someone? Hey, Kyle. Yes. What's in the news? What's in the news? I'm going to crack a booze for the news, a light strike here. That's right. Booze for the news.

That's right. You've got funzies. Peter, you sent this in our group chat, right? Yeah, I did. Well, it was, yeah, I set it up. Set it up. Set it up. Why sent it?

And then, this is how I know Pat doesn't read my fucking text. He sent it literally within 45 seconds after I sent it. I sent it back. I just fucking know it was a different article, but I was like, I just sent that. But mine had a video, so Kyle pulled that up. I sent it? Right after I sent it. I'm totally unaware of this story.

Still unaware. He didn't even work with the previous text. Okay. Anyways, enough with that. There was a skier who pulled up within 10 feet of a very elusive big cat. What cat do you think they pulled up to take a picture of a skier, so you know? Where can you go skiing? with cats. This is in China.

Well, definitely not the mountain lion, I was going to say then. I didn't read the story, but I don't know. Snow leopard. Very elusive. Yes, very rare, right? Wrong. Dude, video. Video proof. Show this. I don't believe what he's saying. You got to see this video.

So this is in China and Foyon. A young woman went within 10 feet of a snow leopard to try to get a picture of it. Holy shit. Hot take. Luckiest lady alive. that she's alive. I would pay. No, she's just lucky. I would pay $10,000 to be mauled by a snow leopard. Right. I would. Like, this is insane. The odds of this are like zero. Right. Just because they're so rare.

Yeah. Cryptic. Just getting to see one. I mean, you've seen that, that BBC Planet Earth thing where they sit up in the blind for like three months to get one shot of a snow leopard coming down the side of a hill. Yeah. This lady just went skiing and got hands on. What do you think the behavior here? is. Okay, here it is. Let's watch. Oh. Is that the lady under her? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Oh, that's not good. So here she comes out. They blurt it out because there's blood and shit. Am I the only one who didn't know you could go skiing

in China? And then look at this. Yes. Look at this fucking snow leopard. That is wild. Bro. Okay, so explain this behavior, right? Because it's hungry or what? Defending? Wait. Most likely predatory.

I mean... Is there a video of her actually getting attacked? I don't think so. They just caught the end of it and then they cut and then they got her coming away from it. So I believe part of the story is that she saw it and then approached it to get closer, right? Yeah, yeah. And got within 10 feet at which point it pounced on her. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. So yeah. So it probably attacked her out of being defensive. But that's just insane. I mean, even just getting to see a snow leopard is crazy. Where is this? Foyon County, China, which has the highest population of snow leopards in the world.

Incredible, though, huh? What's the ski resort in Poyon, China? So they had warned people about an abundance of snow leopards on this mountain. Oh, wow. So maybe you should just go skiing, which I think you could for 10 grand. I will. I will also try and get mulled by a snow leopard. That's crazy.

I'm guessing she didn't sustain any very serious. injuries, like it just bit her and got upset. It said that, yeah, she was wearing a helmet, which luckily really helped her, helped her out there. Yeah, I mean, it says, authorities say she was approximately 10 feet from the leopard when it pounds. What, if you're approaching a leopard up to 10 feet, you're asking for problems. Oh, yeah.

It doesn't matter what species of leopard. By the way, you're in, you're in an environment that you don't live in, that you can't move around in very well. You're probably in a big coat, like, and you're, you're like approaching, an animal that is like a vicious predator. I wonder what's going through your head. How big is a snow leopard? They're one of the smallest leopards. I mean, they're probably 60 pounds, something like that.

It's like quite a bit bigger than a bobcat, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. As big as a decent size German shepherd. What does it say, Kyle? What's our poundage race? 60 to 120 pounds. Yeah, okay. Up to 120. I mean, that's still a pretty big kitty. That's huge. Yeah.

snow bro you can't get away did she have skis on it didn't look like she did i think she took the skis off maybe to approach so she must have been skiing down the hill looked over and been like holy shit there's a snow leopard pop the skis off grabbed her phone out of her pocket to go take a selfie or whatever walked over the leopard was probably hissing and growling she kept approaching and then he was like all right well i've had enough of you well 10 feet too is nothing it's one basketball hoop length oh that's a single hop for a snow leopard too that's wild from you to the octa In fact, that's probably about 15 feet. Yeah, that's crazy.

So what do you, so I guess my question is, what do you think she was thinking? Oh, that she's going to get a good photo. There can't be any other logic behind that. But emotionally, do you think it's that thing where you're on vacation so nothing seems real? Like, how did she not compute danger when you're looking at something that's a, you know, 60 to 100 pound wild cat? I couldn't tell you. I mean, you've got to ask why, remember the idiot we looked at running from the wolves and Yellowstone? Yes.

It's like, why do people do any of this? Sure. It's utterly bonkers. It's for the gram. That said, I'd probably do the same thing. Well, I was going to say. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm skiing down a mountain, I see a snow leopard, I'm not just going to be like,

okay, bye. But right. I'm going to stop and look at it. Yeah. I mean, people just like, we all do dumb shit, first of all. I mean, I've done dumb shit. One time, well, I've already talked about it, but I, hanging on the back of a of a 1989 beretta and fell off and cracked my head open.

I had to go to a heart. Sure. But I mean, we all do dumb shit. But the thing is, I think, you know, you kind of forget, right? You're like, this is a one, like, oh, my God. Like, you just, you get overcome maybe with emotion or, like, you get overcome with that you, like, you want to, maybe you just, like, want to be real cool and post this to Instagram.

You want to get the shot. And it kind of just clouds your judgment, right? Like, oh, that'll never happen. It's too far away. Little, even if you're not an animal expert like Forrest, little do you know that a snow leopard can jump from 10 feet away onto your face. Well, she also probably had no concept of reading its body language. Right. I mean, your average person isn't going to look at any animal and be like, oh, it's getting upset.

It's defensive. It's back's arched. Its ears are back. It's starting to curl its lip. You know, all the signs of this thing's pissed off. Sure. The difference, not to make myself sound like such a. expert because I would have done the same stupid thing.

But no, the difference is I would have looked at him and like, all right, I know I can't get any closer. Like, it's starting to hunch its back. It's starting to curl its lip. Like, it's giving those little cues that basically only another snow leopard or a biologist that studies animals would know what these cues are. I don't know, man. Like, I would be very, I'm very scared and skittish, like, of animals.

Like, in general, like, I'm afraid of, like, a garter snake if I see it because I don't know anything about it. And I would be like, I think I'm, like, hyper aware. Like if it made a move at all, like I would know and I'd be like, I'm a fuck out of here. Unless I would probably say a guess myself based on everything you've told me, been like, wait, should I make big noises ahead or should I run? Kyle, find the video of this year that has the bear chasing him. Have you guys ever seen this?

I've seen various versions of like, didn't I just put this in the chat? Isn't it his pet or something? I don't know. There's, yeah, it's a woman as well. Okay. Right? Yeah, I think it's this chick and she's snowboarding, Kelly Murphy. And I don't think this is staged.

There's definitely some bullshit ones from Russia with guys with pet bears pretending they're running away. Okay. This one I don't think is. Look, she's got the like 360 cam in her hand. She's got the headphones on. Oh shit. That is,

that one does not seem fake to me. No, she's totally clueless. See, she's filming herself. She's not even filming like looking for the bear. Oh my God. She's trying to get like her shred in. But wait, it gets crazier. Look at him.

And she has no clue. No clue. No clue. See, if you're faking it, you're at least looking over your shoulder to see if the bear's following or what's going on. This chick is just, that's it. And then she just starts to make distance on the bear. Yeah, she hits that vertical part and the bear's like, oh, shit, she's too fast. Kyle, pull up the one I sent in the chat.

Oh, dude, do you get back and check the footage? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, you're just like, what the fuck? Well, you know she did like three more runs, filmed herself some more on herself. Totally. Probably stopped at the top of the chairlift or something. somewhere near there and like, you know, put her butt in the snow and relax for a minute.

And then went home and looked at that and was like, oh my God. And peep this one. Maybe we've seen it already, but like this guy's just climbing on rocks. You know, he was a climber. Oh, yeah. That's pretty legit. And then it comes back up, dude. Get the fuck out of that.

He kind of handles it in a good way. He handles it great. Punching and kicking. Why is this bear so aggressive? I thought black bears were like. Probably got a den right there. Ah! Get the fuck out of here.

Was that the bear making that noise? Yeah. Wow. So he must have been climbing and come right by a den, right? And the bear got startled or has cubs or something. Listen to his initial sound. That's my favorite part. That is pure fear of that sound.

I mean, that's like the sound of shit coming out of you. Yes, it is. And pee. At the same time. Which at zero question. Totally would have made the same exact sound. Fully justified. I sold myself just now.

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And my kids like super into climbing. I was like, you want to see a guy climb a building? So I just like put it on. Yeah. Pretty cool. No. It was like watching. It was like climbing a ladder.

I don't think it's more about, it's more about like the kind of you thinking about like how could you. For me, I was watching it. And like when he gets to the topic, it's really windy. Yeah. And like he's just fucking showboating. Like he's hanging with one hand. Not even, dude. There's one clip where his feet are in and he like pulls his arms back and like stretches

his arms and this right here. Yeah, exactly. Right there. Like what are you doing? Dude, how I, that's what I'm talking about. It's like, like it doesn't, yes, it looks hard. Like a normal person could not do it. But it's terrifying.

It looks fucking terrifying to be that high. It's cool that he looked at this 1,800 foot tall building and when I've always wanted to climb one, I'm just going to do it. Yeah. And that he did it. That part's super freaking cool. But like, yeah. There was no part of the climb that was.

But dude, this part right here. Anything different than climbing stairs where he's interesting. Where he's standing on the very tip top of the building. Like the wind. is clearly blowing. And like, like I would, I mean,

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I, it's an insane thing to do for anyone except him. Right. But we've all seen the doc numerous times where they're like,

he, he literally doesn't have an amygdala. That's right. They did an MRI on his brain to, like, prove it too. And so it was, it was,

It was a fun thing. And it was live, too. That was the thing. And they promoted the shit out of this. Jake Paul made $100 million for his last boxing match that Netflix paid him. How much do you think Alex Honnold got for this? 30 grand. I saw something where he commented something similar to this, but I don't know the price.

He just commented like, you know, what so-and-so would get paid for a live event versus what I did to get for my life. How much was it? $500,000. That's what he got paid? Yeah. That's not that much money. So one, two hundredth of what Jake Paul got to get his fucking face beating out. It's, it's annoying, dude, because, dude, look at all the people there.

Like, Netflix made millions and millions of dollars off of this. This is probably a much bigger deal in the, like, the Jake Paul fight as well. Yeah, but Alex Honnold isn't Jake Paul. That's the difference. Yeah, he can command that. It's all about the name recognition. So here's my hot take.

So first of all, to your point, that's interesting that you said that, you know, to you is like watching someone climb stairs because I forget who it was, but somebody I know knows Alex. And they were like, congrats, Alex. That was insane. Like watching you do that live.

Like I was holding my breath so many times. Blah, blah, blah, blah. So I wanted to feel that way. And I tried at the beginning, but then I was like, oh,

he's just climbing stairs. Yeah. He wasn't climbing stairs. But for the best climber in the world or one of the 10 best. Yeah. Like, look, this is Harry,

right? Like, that's terrifying for anyone else. Yeah. there's no amount of money you could pay me to do this. Certainly not $500,000. Does watching it make like your like not sack hurt a little bit? My hands are sweaty.

Yeah. Oh, definitely. Yeah, mine too now that you say. Yeah. My hot take on this is, by the way, and I don't have this to come off the wrong way. I think Alex Honnold's a freak of nature. There's nobody can do what he's doing. It's insane.

He's on another level. All of that. Should we be encouraging this? Do you know what I mean? Like, we're sort of encouraging him to die. You're just scared that because you have trained your kid to have no amygdala. He might want to do this. No, you're saying we're encouraging Alex to keep going until he falls.

Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. So by making, by Netflix premiering this and making such a big deal about it and even us talking about it right now. Don't get me wrong. Again, very pro Alex. I think he's an incredible athlete. But like, should we be promoting this? Because he's going to do another one.

This isn't going to be the end. Sure. He's going to fall eventually, right? Like, you don't. You do. I'll argue. Am I wrong? By that same logic, that's like, so a bunch of really well-trained, like reptilian experts that we had on our show have since been, had their legs bitten off, got bitten off, got bitten by deadly snakes and died.

So it's kind of the same thing for you. Like, do you feel like you're headed down a definite road of like, God damn it? I was going to argue his point. And now you're fucking redirecting the question to him. You do that? That's what happens. happens a lot on a three-person show. Okay, now shut up. Before you answer that question,

I want to argue the point. So, first of all, like, this versus what he did in Free Solo is way less dangerous. So he's... You're saying this is less dangerous than Free Solo? Much less dangerous. Wow. What is that based on? Well, I mean... He's just climbing a thing that had just, like, easy handholds. So they have, they, they, you can, uh, they rate climbs.

And like that, this, what he climbed on Free Solo, which is what, El Capiton? Yeah. Yeah. It's rated way, it's way harder. The holds like everything. I didn't know that. But I don't think he's a dummy. Like, I don't.

Neither do I for clarity. And he's going to do it regardless. Look at that. Like, that's sketchier than anything he did. That really makes my hand sweaty. And by the way, if you just get stuck and you go, dude, I ran out of gas. Yeah. It's not an option.

No one can help you. No. There's nothing you can do. You just live in that crack now. Yeah. Okay. redirect away, though, because I'm sure people do want to hear for his answer. To answer Patrick's point, probably not. I justify it, which is probably wrong. I self-justify it by being like, well, this is being done for a greater good. You know, we're promoting keeping animals in a nice way or wildlife conservation or whatever. This is just one man's personal journey. Does that mean that either is right or wrong? No, I'm not saying that. He is a freak of nature superhuman. There's no question about it. But we're just watching this for the spectacle of

watching. Sure. Yeah. Where I guess, I mean, the same argument could be made for watching one of these kids handle venomous snakes, but at least-UFC fight. I mean, like anything, like where it's dangerous. Yes, but to Pat's point, I justify the venomous snake thing or whatever by saying, at least you're promoting understanding of animals. This is, I don't know what this is promoting, other than this guy's an unbelievable athlete. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, he, I feel, my, my take on this is he's going to be doing it anyways. Good for him. Get money, get notoriety, get recognition, like everybody else does for doing crazy shit online. Okay, so hypothetically, and I don't want this to happen,

what happens when what happens to him happened to Dingo Dinkleman, who was a friend of ours who we had on the pod who's since past. By the way, that's why everybody was watching the Netflix. That's my whole point. Yeah. And you're promoting it. Do you know what I mean? You're kind of like, tune in and see if this guy dies.

Yeah. That's a little bit different from tune in and see this guy with a snake and, oh, shit, he had a bad accident. You're right. The draw to this, a live stream of this, is like, Like, there is the chance of death where I guess... That's the only reason people tune in. I mean, you're watching it for the thrill of it.

Right. I'm sweaty. Yeah. I'm not just watching it. No, you're right. Your point is not mood for sure. I mean, I definitely was shocked. My first thought was like, dude, they're live streaming it.

Like, he could die in front of millions of people. Holy shit. And then I was like, I got to watch this. How many people that were watching it live had pre-typed into their group chat? Holy shit, Honnold just fell off the building. Yeah, exactly. So that they could be the first one to press send if he fell. Or how many people?

Or how many people betted on it? Which is even more shitty. You probably could, right? 500 bucks says he dies on this flying. Zero question. There's bets flying on this. For sure. What is that new app that people are betting on absolutely everything?

Yeah, yeah. It's not talking about it. I do. I've heard predictions markets. Yeah. What is the, what's the big one that the kids are using? No, it's not call sheet. It's got another name.

It's everywhere. the moment. It's like you can bet on, on it. Huh? Oh, yeah, Polly Market. Is that it? I thought it was called something else. Yeah, Polly Market. It's something. You know what I'm talking about, right? You can literally just bet on anything. There you go. There's the Polly Markets. Kyle, I think now is a great time to pull up the video that BTG sent us and then Patrick said, or said Patrick and sent us because you guys have now seen this. Oh, this? The Mountain Goat thing. And every one of our viewers needs to see this. Yeah, this is huge. This is a mountain. This is so much sketchy than anything he didn't free so.

Exactly. Exactly. So describe what we're seeing here. So we're looking at a couple ibex, mountain ibex. Somebody's fastened a GoPro to the horns of one of them. This isn't AI, right? No, I asked BTG because Bradley Trevor Greve posted this.

He said, what of you? Camera fitted to a mountain goat, not AI. Okay. And so I then texted him. I said, are you sure it's not AI? Okay. Because it's an unbelievable video and perspective. And he then sent me more videos of the team that made this and behind the scenes of how they got the shot.

Well, it's one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. But it's a... Look at that. Describe it. It's an action camera mounted to one of these mountain ibexes as it runs on a knife's edge of a mountain and hops from little ledge to little ledge. But when I say little edge,

I'm talking about millimeters while these things are flying at 40 miles an hour up and down these mountains. It's an incredible feat of, athleticism. It's unbelievable. They're also like jumping like 40, 50 vertical feet. Yeah.

Like they're in midair for like three seconds at a time. Like Superman. It's unreal. So what's going on? Come to our come watch the video if you're if you're listening to this. Oh, you must. This is one of like I literally was like this is one of the most incredible videos.

And I'm not even like exaggerating. I could watch it all day. I'm really curious how they got the camera back. Well, they, well, I mean, they've been doing it. So maybe they, like, get them with food at the end or something, or this is like a known route they go. Maybe. Or it could have just been transmitting to a hard drive.

Oh, true. Yeah. Then they just left it. It's like, you have a camera now. Yeah. I don't know. So what I was thinking to myself is like, what's, what's going on with their fucking feet for us? Like, are these feet like?

Tiny, tiny, little delicate hooves that they can maneuver on these cracks. So there's no way we could recreate, like, feet like that for. human and put on a shoe that could do this? I don't think so. We would have to shrink our feet down to like the size of a pin or something. Look at that. Unbelievable. Why do they do this? It seems pretty taxing. To evade predators.

No predator can keep up with them in that scenario. Type in Mountain Goat or Mountain Ibex is fine. Damn Wall. Have you ever seen this? No. Look at this. This is some like some, I think it's in China or something but it's some crazy wall. Look at

that. Dude. So I don't I think Alex Honnold or any human could climb this, and you'll see a whole herd of them on this in a second here. It's just a, like, natural stone dam that was made that looks hundreds of feet tall. And they just start walking up the wall. But the same way you or I would walk to Starbucks down a sidewalk. But, I mean, you can see there's, there's, it's, you know, it's not completely slick like glass, but it doesn't have any grips or holds to it. No. I mean, it's, it's insane.

I mean, for their tiny feet, like, the bricks are protruding a little bit or whatever, but, oh, look, even he can't hang a whole time. And they slip and then they just catch themselves. They're not, here's the difference. They don't slip and go, oh, no, I'm dying. Yeah. They just slip and then catch the next hold. Right. But it's, it just climbed several hundred feet.

I believe there's a, like, a way zoomed out drone shot somewhere in here. By the way, for no reason. That's the thing. Look at that. Like, why is it climbing this? And that's a baby one learning how to do this. Yep. I wonder how often they die doing this.

Like, I wonder if there's... Oh, it happens for sure. I'm sure. Yeah, I was going to say, it's not zero. Yeah. So he's getting minerals there, right? Okay, okay. He's licking salt out of that, for sure.

So that's probably why they go up there. So the water seeps through the dam and the water will have a high concentration of salt, minerals, and then as it dehydrates. Look at you running down it. Someone just give him a light strike so he doesn't have to climb 400 feet to get his salt. Put it in a ball.

Minerals, getting his fucking naturalites. I think that all the time. You watch these BBC Planet Earth things and you're like, you know, the elephant is dying of dehydration. Watch as it slowly withers away. And you're like, bro, just fucking put out a bottle of water. Like, what are you doing right now?

You're like, you're just going to watch it. It's like the last of its kind, the gigantic magnificent bull elephant, a critical component genetically of its species. The very last one. And you're like, just give it a fucking hose, dude. Like,

I know you're sitting there filming it with a fucking camelback on. Like, what's the matter with you right now? I think that all the time, watching those things. Remember when we were in Madagascar and we were giving the lemurs our water bottles?

Yeah. Yeah, just do that. Just open your water bottle and let them have a sip. Guys, they loved it. They loved it. They loved it.

118. Yeah. Humans were passing out. And like the lemurs were feverishly trying to steal our water. We're like, here. We just just take a pal. Just shared our water bottles with the lemurs.

It was great. That's probably how COVID started. Speaking of lemurs, there's several monkeys loose again in the States. No. Yep. Another truck? Not a truck. No, they don't know.

It's a mystery. They don't know where they came from. I think there's one guy out there. Like the guy who started the L.A. fires that we pretended didn't for a while. You know what I'm talking about? I think there's a monkey anarchist out there who's just like, ha-ha-homonkies will take over.

So they don't know. Yeah, this is in St. Louis. Where was the last one? Wasn't it also St. Louis? I don't think so. I think it was a more southern... Last one I think was Ohio. Okay. Is it Ohio? Multiple monkeys are loose in North St. Louis spotted near O'Fallon Park, with early reports suggesting at least four animals, though the exact number remains unknown. But so... So why'd you bring it up?

The interesting thing here is that, well, there's a picture, first of all, I would open it. So there they are. Yeah. Just hanging out in St. Louis. Those are vervet monkeys for anybody wondering. Look at the fucking background. They're in like the ghetto of St. Louis. They are in the ghetto. It's not the most expensive neighborhood. No.

Not enough chain link. I think you might be able to like lure them in and get him hooked on meth and then just like have a pet monkey. Or maybe they are hooked on meth and that's why they're roaming around that neighborhood. You know what? Monkeys on meth. You're right. Anybody, Discovery are you watching? Discovery are you watching new episode?

Yeah. No, but. St. Louis. muff monkeys. Yeah, but I mean, so the zoo has not claimed responsibility. Nobody's claimed responsibility and they're still loose. I mean, they might not be by the time this airs. But so they're calling for animal experts and I have a phone number here and I wanted to just

give it to you. Should we call them live on air? Yes. Yes. They're going to be so annoyed. Wait, what is, describe the phone number and what the reason it exists. Well, it's to report sightings. Oh, well, that's the.

Call them! Call them now! I'm sitting in a studio in Thousand Oaks, California. Hi, my name's Forrest Galante. No, but they're asking. Do you need help with a monkey problem? They're not giving out the animal expert number on the website. I thought it was a call-in if you're an animal expert.

I thought so, too. Oh, you know what? Which is also bizarre. No, no, there's a number for the animal experts at the, below that. Okay. And what does it say? It says, looking for animal experts that can help control and care for these animals. call this number

care for them what are we supposed to do in this scenario though Peter like we could call them on air and when I explain who I am which is going to be embarrassing in the first part of course of this pull your phone out now and be like well I'm sitting in a studio

in L.A. I might be able to help sometime in November when my schedule clears up. Have you tried using nets? Have you ever played the video game Ape Escape? Maybe they'll just know who you are and they'll be like they'll want your advice. Like, what can they do to track them? What can they do to lure them? Here's what I want to figure out. I think they want to help caring. Shut your fucking out.

Kyle. That's probably a big part. Type in, go to chat GPT and ask it, is it legal to own vervet monkeys in Missouri? Well, that's in the article. So I could tell you without having to do that. Is it or is it not? It's not illegal. I mean, it's not legal. No. Thanks for the double negative. Shut your mouth. I don't even know the answer. I made it up. what's the answer here? God, I hate chat GPD. Just say yes or no. I know, right? Yeah. The answer is no. Not allowed. Okay, so, so these are illegal monkeys. Elegals. Is St. Louis on the border of another state? Are you trying to get DHS in there? I'm trying to understand where these monkeys came from. St. Louis, yeah, it touches several other states. Leading theory is that somebody was keeping these as an exotic, you know, pet in their, in their house or whatever. Yeah, it has to be. Kansas. But wait.

Illinois, Iowa. Where's the state line? I mean, they kind of traveled that far. Well, here's the thing. When did this article come out? January 11th. They dead. Yeah?

Yeah. We just had the biggest snowstorm in this part of the world in memorable history. And you're talking about sub-Saharan monkeys that can maybe do okay in 10 degrees above freezing. What's the current weather in St. Louis? They don't. They did. My favorite part of this article before he pulls that up is that they're, They do.

They're very dead. It's 29 degrees in St. Louis, Missouri currently. It was down to four degrees at night. You don't think those monkeys. No. They're completely toast. They do specify that this, in the article,

that the species is native to sub-Saharan Africa and is not native to Missouri. So I just. Thanks for that. Thanks for being clear. I just wanted to. Before you said that, I had those two mixed up.

I was like, I know they have these in Missouri. They put it in the fucking articles. Oh, I'm saying. I wonder. if they're native to, if they've ever been to Africa. So you don't think they can survive the four degrees?

No, I mean, based on the photos in the meth neighborhood they're hanging out in, maybe they found like a nice house to hang out in with some like 50 gallon drum fires to warm up around. But my guess is, my guess is they go. Dude, all right. So if you could for one day have the ability that those IBEX has had. Yeah. To just run along the tops of cliffs and climb a vertical wall down. you had it for one day.

What would you do with it? Because you're not guaranteed not to die. No, but you're most of the way there. I feel like what would be a really cool thing? Like, I know what I do. Remember where we went in Singy, Madagascar? Oh, yeah. Okay, so Kyle, pull up a picture of Singy, T-S-I-N-G-Y,

Singy, Madagascar. Peter, in Singy are, it's probably one of the most impenetrable places in the world because this is the landscape. Look at that. That's a real landscape, by the way. Like, they could have filmed... Those are rocks. Holy shit.

Super sharp trees. Super sharp rocks. You could have filmed all of Avatar there and nobody would have questioned it. It looks insane. That's what I expect the pits of hell looks like, but on fire. But it's impossible to get through it. That said, there is the... What's the name?

Voltskis? No, it's not Voltskis. It's another one. The Valentine's Chameleon is... an extinct, potentially extinct species of chameleon from kind of north. Yeah, good luck, Kyle. For those just listening, Kyle just Googled Valentine's chameleon and got a lot of really nice-looking Valentine's state cards.

Anyway, the Valentine's chameleon, which I don't know what the species is, but it's something Valentina is known to be the Valentine's chameleine because it's said to have a heart-shaped pattern on its chest, which no other chameleon has. Very cute. The one of, I'm going to butcher this, but one of two or three ever specimens ever identified is from like way in Singy and it took the expedition that found it like three weeks to get there. You know, and it's like, you're talking about like six miles. Yeah.

You know, and it took them three weeks to get there. And, you know, they collected the species along with a handful of others and then we're like, cool, like let's take get, let's get out of here. It took them a month to get back. I'm just picturing. What? Me as a goat trying to get a chameleon. I'm picturing Forrest with the goat

Like doing the goat thing But he's like still got his upper body Yeah Well he would Yeah he literally just He doesn't change physical body It's great Just goat feet

Just has the ability Just the feet And then I get there And I'm trying to catch a chameleon With my goat hands You have to put in your mouth And then you change back Like in Cinderella

And poof you're stuck there Anyway that's my That's what I do I'd go through singing Try and find the chameleon Do it in a day Something that would take other people weeks That's what I do

I like that there's a purpose for it. What would you do? I mean, the only thing I could think of is I'd, like, I would just watch an Ibex do something that looks cool. And then I'd be like, I'll just do that. I'll just run along that ridge real fast. Do you think that you could try and sell it to Netflix? That's what I was going to say. Do you think you get a hold of Netflix and say, look, what you think Alex Honnold did is cool? Yeah. Wait, do you see what I can do in one day. Yeah. Yeah. That idea, I think it would try to profit of it. Yeah. Definitely. Smart. Smart. Because I don't have any other like altruistic goal.

where I need to, like, run along a ridge real fast. Peter, what are you got? What are you doing with goat powers? Listen, man, I don't know shit about anything. I'd be like, like, just put me on a cool mountain with the best view and I'll hop up there. It would be pretty cool to, like, get to the top of Everest and back in, like, six hours. Yeah. I did, I did that.

That would be cool. Yeah. Or the other thing, just freak people out. Yeah. Just freak people out. Not even go anywhere. Just with your goat, Pete. Yeah.

Yeah. Just like, just say nothing. to my wife. And then you come home and just go, no, I'm not talking about hooves. I don't even have hooves. You got hooves, boy. No, but like, just like,

oh, let's take the kids like up to like this viewpoint and like have like a fun thing and on the top of this building. And then I would just like get up on the guardrail and run around. No, no. You tuck one under the arm and you just go, boing.

Oh, God. Have you ever? That would not go over while. Peter, maybe you. Have either of you ever been to the, um, is it the Sears Tower in Chicago that has the glass floor thing?

It's called like the Willis Tower now or something, but yeah. It's not, is it the Sears Tower? And they renamed it or is it something different? It's not the Sears Tower anymore. It's not the Sears Tower anymore. It has the glass floor, though. I think that's a different one. They have a couple.

John Hancock. Is this the one? John Hancock has a restaurant. Sears Tower, you can lean on to the glass and look out. Oh, wait. I actually saw the one I was talking about. Go back, Kyle. See it on the far right, the box?

It's that. No, up one. Oh, yeah. I don't think they have that in Chicago. Oh, it is. Yeah, it's in Chicago for sure. Observation deck. I don't know.

The sky deck. Yeah, I went and did that. And it's an awful feeling. Yeah. Awful. Yeah, because the whole box is glass, as you can see. Uh-huh. And there's something that just goes so against every part of your body as a human to step onto that.

The leaning thing, like I see the other ones where you lean or whatever, I feel like I could do that one pretty easily. But the one where you step out into this glass box and you're just suspended, you know, a hundred, stories over a city. I don't know. It was very weird and I didn't really expect it to be and it was very off-putting. When I went to do a show in Vancouver,

they just gave me an apartment. The production company was like, you pick up your keys, this is I get your car. My apartment, it was a one-bedroom apartment. The closet was that. No way.

I swear to God. The closet was just a glass box. That stuck out from the building. Stuck out. you know, like 50. I was on like the 53rd floor. Well, you're just like, I'm not getting dressed. What the fuck?

It was definitely like took some getting used to for sure. Yeah. That's wild. There's one in L.A. by the way, they built that's a slide. Oh, is that that that? I saw that and was curious what that was for a side. No, that is definitely not.

It's on the same building that the bar perch, the rooftop bar perch is on. Oh, interesting. Why? Why? What do you mean? You're going out for fancy cocktails? Well, dude. Yeah, I did things.

before I had kids and I was younger. You went out to fancy cocktails in downtown L.A. Several times. With who? People that aren't you because you're a judgmental piece of shit. I would have fucking gladly put you down that slide and not the bottom out. You don't know them. They go to a different school.

You don't know what I mean? You don't know me. I'm just saying I don't know about this. It's true. I'm not sure it happens. Anthony Poo Chachi. Hey Kyle. Let's play a game.

What do you got lined up for us? Give us a good. Give us a yingel and then a game. Comment if you don't believe Peter that he wants for a fancy root-top. Comment if you still hate Pat after all these podcasts. Guess the animal based on their native name. Oh, wait. No, the one above it was way better.

Beasley buzzword. What do you think? Yeah, let's do it. I just think there's some funny ones. I don't know what any of these mean. I don't either. Yeah, beastly buzzword. Let's get wrong and have Kyle pronounce them mean correctly.

Sounds great. How does this work, Kyle? There's a word here on the screen that I'm going to read to you guys. that is a scientific term related to animals. Okay. And you guys are going to try to guess what this word means in layman terms. Done deal.

You guys, you listeners are about to learn a lot. Yeah. Buckle up. All right. The first one is fessorial. What does fessorial mean? We're going to go Peter, Patrick, me.

This is when an animal is incapable of being fossilized because it disintegrates too quickly when it dies. Fossorial. Good job. Thank you. Good job.

I'm going to say that this is related to the Fusa in Madagascar. Fusorial. It's Fusorial. And this has to do with any this is what anytime an animal looks like it might be part cat or part otter or part wolf. Yeah, that happens quite for you.

Yeah, exactly. Phosorial, if I'm not mistaken, means they live under the ground, subterranean. Forest is correct? That's still an ant because the majority had them wrong. So is kissing your ass. He makes shit up as we go. That's true, yep. Specifically adapted for digging using limbs and claws to create burrows underground.

Vossorial. Not otter wolf related. No. I was real close, though. Very close. You can't wait to use it in a sentence. Next is Guller flutter. Guller flutter.

How did he flubb flutter? He was going flutter until he It's clearly Guler Flutter, right? Yes. Gular flotar. Gular flutar. Do you know what a Guler flutter is? No clue.

Okay. Nope, no clue. This is like, so it's a behavior. So this is a behavior. Wait, the fossilization was their behavior. Okay, Gular Flutar is when an animal... Dude, somebody else go, I can't.

No, you have to. I just can't think of anything. It's like when an animal... Christ, you're useless. All right, I'll go. Thank you. I think Gular Flutar is... You see all those videos on Instagram of when the bird

like shakes up its feathers. You know, and it like airs out its feathers. I'm not talking about peacock, and I'm talking about like a little shimmy to get the feathers fluffed up ready for flight. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a goular flutar. Okay. I think this has to do with making a noise. I think this has to do with vocal cords.

Yeah. You too. It's like a fluttering of the vocal cords to make a noise. Did you play a sound effect, Kyle? I did not know. Was that you? That was me. Did you like that?

Do it again? That's a gular flutar. That's ludicrous. All right, I'm going to give half points. Wait, we're not done. What the fuck? What's the matter with you? You passed.

No, I didn't come. He thought he stopped. He's stopped. That's what I'm saying. I didn't even know you finished. Well, wait, wait. You have a real leg up now because he interrupted with we each got a half point. No, I know what this is now.

You have to. Yeah, a gular flutar is when an animal sneezes more than three times. Oh, wow. You had so much opportunity. Squisted. Still half points for Patrick and Forrest. It says the rapid vibration of the. throat used by birds to cool down instead of sweating.

Wow. So I got a half point for just saying the word bird. Yeah. No, because you made the noise. Shaking. Oh, okay, okay. And you made the noise, which I think is representing of the behavior. Yeah.

Yep. Really excited to hear Kyle pronounce this next one. Oh, my God. Wait, to Forrest's point, he literally just said the word bird. I know. The shaking of the bird. You spend way too much time with Forrest to be our podcast producer anymore. Glad-handing, son of a bitch.

Seriously, glad-handing. Next one. Next one is pedomorphosis. It's clearly pedomorphosis. That's what I said. You said pedo. It's okay. Petomorphosis.

Yeah. This is what through shortly before he died. That's funny. I was going to make it. Sure. Well, yeah. Nice. I'm sticking with it.

I like it. Yeah. Well, what, I mean, Peto, Pito. Pito. It has to do with children. Yep. So it's something young.

The changes. Yeah. What's a change? You could jump in if you guys. Sure. I'm going to say pedomorphosis is when an animal changes its aesthetic from a baby to an adult, such as a Malayan tapir, or a leopard, a zebra shark,

which looks striped when it's a baby, but gets spots when it's an adult. Petomorphosis. Okay. Yeah, I think, I don't think that's it at all. I think it's more likely when a particular animal of a species starts to eat

and predate on the young of its own species. I'm metamorphosis. Kyle, that's all three of this. time. Okay. Peter's sticking with the joke.

Ah. Forest almost got a half point, but not quite. It says retaining juvenile traits into adulthood. So close. By the way, you must.

It's kind of the polar opposite of it. What would be a reason for that? The example here is axelotos keeping its gills into adulthood. Oh. That makes sense.

That makes sense. It's got to be really rare, right? I feel like that doesn't happen very often. Yeah, it's not a lot of things that do that, that have like a larval form

and end up, you know, retaining that into adulthood. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. I should know that. Kyle, you must, I'm not even joking.

You have to bleep that I, that man's name that I said or we won't get traction on the podcast. No, you, you have to, I'm, I said it too. People will know what we're talking about, but it needs to be, it needs to be cut out. He's been dead long enough that it's funny. Dude, they just banned his name from being allowed to be said in TikTok DMs. I don't know why or what's going on. That's not true. But shit, yes it is.

I'm a DM you right now. Do it right now. I don't even know if I have TikTok on my phone anyways. Just do it, Kyle. I'm excited for this one. All right. The next one is brumation. Oh, this is...

Bromation. Yeah, bromation. This is when... I mean, it's when you get... You become a bro. Any animal that is not human... Has the ability to ruminate on things and get very angry and resentful of their brethren.

Brumation. Brumation. Brumaton. What is this? This has to do with something real fratty. What would an animal do that's fratty? Brumaturn. It's when a verbit monkey

learns how to frat snap and chug. Peter, trying to do it. Brumation is a form of hibernation. It's like a suspended sleep. Ah, he's right. Half point for Papa Pete. What is it?

Yeah, Forrest is correct. Yeah, reptile. It's a reptile specifically. I should have. said that. Yeah, actually, I should only get a half point because I knew that but didn't say it. I should have said that. Shut the. No, it's fair. I hear the symbiosis between you two. It's, it's funny. He gets really mad if you and I agree. He gets really, now he's getting mad that you and Kyle agree.

Yeah, but if we agree with him, he's like, thanks. I got one thing to say, I've always been consistent about both of those things. That's true. Being mad. That's the consistent. That's true. I bruminate. All right. We got two more, two more. Brumet. I brummate. The next one is, count. Counter shading. Give that a whiff, Peter. Let me see.

This is countershadings. Countershading. A very wonderful scent into your nostrils. Our Christmas candle. Come in your pants. I know what countershading is. Go ahead. Was that it?

No, no. That's obviously not a real answer. Sure. But I did come out of my pants. Countershading is when, okay, so instead of sitting under a tree. One of you definitely farted, then open the candle. I can tell. That's why you did it.

of a beach. No, no, I didn't open it. It's been sitting her open. Oh, okay. I can smell it the entire time of podcast. Okay, okay. All right. So counter shading is when instead of like an animal going, like a human or whatever, going to sit in the shade of a tree to like block the sun and be cool. Sit in the shade of the counter. No, show your butt. They, it's like the opposite of that, like when a lizard goes and sits in the sun to get warm so I can get the energy to run around. That's a really well thought out guess. Right, because scientists were like, he's getting sun energy.

That's the opposite of sitting in the shade. Let's name this behavior after what he's not doing. The counter of that. See, do you understand why I get mad? Well, I, listen to him. I complimented you. Not you. I thought it was funny.

I'm mad at him, not you. He's an idiot. Right, no, because you prefer dead air. I prefer you to shut your fucking butt. Well, that's then just called. Shut up, you're just going for time so that you can think of something. Now, go, go, go, go, go. I know what it is.

Countershading is when it's an example. An example of counter shading is zebra stripes. Oh, yeah, because scientists, they were like, oh, it's shade with the white and then you have the stripes and it's like, ah, ha, ha, ha. Fucking idiot. No, it's shading that counters other things that want to be pests. Yeah, yeah. Like flies that want to land on zebras. Yeah, so scientists were just sitting around at a table in their life.

You have too much NAD in your system. I'm going to give my counter shading example of like a great white shark, which if you're a fish looking up from below, you see white because the underbelly's white. And if you're a fish looking down or a seal looking down from the surface, you see dark blue so that it blends in. So it's countered from the bottom. Basically the same thing is.

Yeah, I'm just giving up. That quick buzzer. How are none of us right? Forest is correct. Yeah. What? Yeah. Forrest is correct.

Wait, how is that different than the zebras? So it says, how is that different than the fucking lizards? It says, dark on top and light underneath to reduce visibility from predators or prey. So maybe that's a half point

for Patrick as well. Just Google. It's not. Do zebras feature counter shading? I'm curious what Google will say to this as well. Try to stump Google. I want to hear what it is insane here.

Let's see. Read it. Aloud. Dead air. Go. Zebras exhibit a form of counter shading. That counts. It does count.

It's a quarter point. I thought of it as the, to blend in difference, but that is camouflage in its own way. We've just expanded knowledge twice. There you go. All right. Last one. Let's go. This one is worth 17 points.

Wow. 17 points. Hyper carnivore. Oh, my God. This is so easy. When Peter goes to Fogo to Chow. Bogo is real good. I'm going on Friday.

No way. I think I want to take my kid. I might drive down and join you. Dude, not kidding. Kids under seven eat free. Wait, where is it?

Right next to my house, boy. Let's go. I'm dead serious. Okay, yeah. Fogo to Chow, Friday date.

Peter, you're in. I'm in. So I'll say before this, this is Kyle eats free. This is a pretty easy one. Now, the wording in this definition is very specific.

Okay. Nobody heard a word you just said. Yeah. We're busy laughing about you being seven years old. This is when an animal will eat. even just it'll eat any meat. It doesn't fucking matter. It could be wet meat.

It could be rancid meat. It could be fucking hot meat, cold meat. Dry meat. It could be fucking dry meat. It doesn't matter. It means that this is an animal that's not just a carnivore. It's a hyper carnivore. Yeah, I mean, it's sort of like what the fuck else could it be?

Do you know a specific thing? No, I don't. No, not what Kyle's asking, like, what is the specific word? He had to specify. I said that. What was your caveat? I was just saying that it is a very obvious, you know, word. Yeah, eating a lot of meat. Yeah, but the wording is specific.

Like, there's a, there's a threshold, I should say. Oh, so. Ah, well, now he's going to know the answer. It eats so much meat that it ultimately causes its own demise. Ooh, like that. That's not right. Resulting in its own death because it ate too much meat. I'm going to guess that a hyper carnivore, similar to Peter's guess,

is, it means it's a carnivore, but it doesn't just eat the flesh. it will eat the bones and the organs, like a hyena or something like that. Like fully consume every part of the animal. Love that. So the definition here is an animal whose diet is more than 70% meat. Oh, that's boring.

Jesus Christ, Edwin. How did you put that as number six? Wouldn't that just be most carnivores? That's all carnivores. Yeah, it's literally every carnivore. So I get seven points. Let's call it a game. I mean, sure.

That's exactly what I fucking say. No, but I'm just saying, if it's a carnivore, it means it eats meat. So saying it eats more than 70% meat, that's just an omnivore. If 30% of your diet is not meat, you're not a carnivore. Out of all of our answers, which we're all kind of right, mine was the rightest. Yeah, but look at, even Wikipedia. Why does this need a word?

It's got a three-page Wikipedia. And one of the pictures is of a cobra, which undeniably 100% only eats other living animals. So I'm wondering if they're saying like, okay, well, the cobra eats a rat, but in the rat's stomach is grass and seeds. So now it's a hypercarnivore instead of being a full carnivore because it's consuming what's in the stomach of the other, of the prey animal. Yeah, I really like how you're expanding the content in the context of the podcast so that people can learn better, but at the end of the day, I'm the most right and I get seven points. Peter, you've won. Just move on from that. Let's focus on. What is, what is the difference between a carnivore and a hypercarnavary.

Yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious. Oh, God, dead air. I want the bell. What is the difference between a carnivore and a hyper carnivore? That's a good pod. As you watched, I'll type it. Yep, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

All right, here we go. A carnivore is any animal that primarily eats meat, blah, blah, blah, blah. A hyper carnivore is a step further. It means the animal's diet is at least 70% meat. Wrong. That's not correct. That's the same thing. But it's also not correct because a carnivore is not any animal that eats meat.

Okay, so now explain the difference. An omnivore eats meat and vegetation. Right. Not a carnivore. Do I know nothing about animals? Am I learning? You know a thing or two. That's what I'm saying.

An omnivore is flexibility in their diet. Okay, so what is it saying here? I can't read it. I'm too blind. So an omnivore is built for flexibility, but it says they eat both animals and plants in meeting full amount. I see. So it's not just that they're willing to swing both ways.

It's like, you know, the more half. gladly forage either one. So do we have a consensus on what we think a hyper carnivore actually is? Yeah, it's something that eats more than 70% of its diet of meat. I guess like the difference would be... So that's every carnivore? Every single carnivore. A lion versus a black bear.

Right. Because a black bear would... Is a true omnivore. Right. A black bear would gladly eat berries and fruits and seeds. But that's an omnivore. That's not really even a carnivore at that point. Right.

I think what it's saying is that an omnivore, like 70% of an omnivore, like 70% of an Omnivore's diet would not be meat. Yeah. It's more like 50-50. I really think it's a good opportunity to ask the brosners. Comment on this. I think you guys probably know the answer. If you copy and paste chat GPT, just unsubscribe from the podcast.

Stop telling people to find unsubscribe. Stay subscribe, please. I've started telling people that email me. Have you seen this like where you can auto respond to an email with a chat GPT thing? Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about? In Gmail? Like you just create an email.

Yeah. So Gmail now does a thing where you can be like, like, I've read all your emails. Would you like me to respond for you? And then you get like a bullshit chat GPT. Hello, so-and-so. Thank you so kindly for your lovely. And you're just like, don't fuck.

Nobody speaks like this. So I had to have a meeting with my team last week. And I was like, if you send me an auto-response chat GPT email, please call me or don't subscribe. Don't respond. I cannot, I cannot weed through the nine paragraphs. Oh, my God. Yeah.

To get a yes or no answer. 100%. Yeah. Oh, because they're just way overly wordy, like everything else chat. Exactly right. Just like we were complaining earlier. We're looking for a simple answer. It's like a three-page fucking diatribe.

Outrageous. All right. Good night, everybody. Wait, do the ding for Peter. He wants his, even though he didn't actually win, let him have it. There you go. Wildtimes. Dot club forward slash info.

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