Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Forrest Galante Warns That Zootopia 2 May Have Started a Very Dangerous Snake Trend

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

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I am the, what am I, broologist? We've got Patrick here, the producer. Brologist. And Peter, who's PhD in podcasting, who never does any part of it anymore. Not anymore. Kyle has stolen my job. So we started this in 2020. 20, it's now 2026. That means... It's crazy. It spans seven calendar years. That's wild. That's insane. We started it drunkenly in my garage.

You're one of those people who still doesn't understand how math works. Well, all I know is that we started in March of 2020 and in March of 2020 26, that'll be six years. But it's seven calendar years. But what good does that do anyone?

Well, look at me. I know. I understand the numbers that you're saying. 2021. Okay, but all I'm saying is... But what seven does that do with anybody? It's not seven real years. No, it's... But we have spanned seven calendar years.

But that's just like... Every year. An exaggerated lie. This is shenanigans. Every year we have a holiday party at Patrick's house. I know we already talked about our holiday party on a different pod. We did. But what I didn't talk about on the pod is that we, well, we were four-ish drinks in.

Four? I noticed something. Oh, boy. Patrick, what is your go-to drink of choice at your house for a party? Oh, we did some apparel spritzes. We did. Yeah. And guess what I did?

What'd you do? I drunkenly bought you a $400 present. More than I bought for any of my children or my wife. Okay. I'm going to gift it to you right now. Oh, boy. Oh, wow. Got it right now.

Ooh, it says fragile. It's not a sponsor, to be clear. This is probably an absolute piece of shit, but I use one at a barbecue in the summer. and... Let's watch the old man try and open this. I don't have a key with me. I'm going to need a key. Kyle, you got a key in there?

It says Sprizer. We got to just punch it. We got an unboxing. This is very successful on YouTube, by the way. Comes Kyle coming in clutch. Here we go. This is a very successful format on YouTube, by the way, the unboxing format. We're doing an unboxing.

So for context, I went to a summer barbecue this summer, and there was one of these out. and I was enamored with it. I spent all day standing by it. I decided to talk to other dads about it. About it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I really put in a lot of time with it. So this, sir. Should I do it up so people can see it? I think so. Yeah, I think so. Kyle's panicking right now. He's like, why are they doing this? He's so angry because we started late.

Yeah, we did. He slept here. Yeah. He did sleep here. Okay. I see what's going on. You guys are going to have to fill the dead air here. Yes, no problem.

No problem. Stand up. Do what you got to do here. He's opening the box. He just knocked the table over. I was so embarrassed when this showed up and my wife was like, what is this? Why did we get this?

I'm dying to know. It's not for you. What the hell is this? It's a... Wait, wait. Should I explain it or not yet? Wait till he pulls it out. Wait till he unboxes it.

It probably requires assembly. But basically you put in your booze, your apparel spritz, and your soda water, and your ice. And it premixes the perfect apparel spritz for you. Wow. It's an apparel spritz dispensing. machine. That's insane.

No, it's just it comes out perfect. It's the right proportions. It's one button. It's the spritzer. It's automated? Yeah, it's great, dude. I'm telling you, you're going to love this thing. It was such a dumb impulse purchase. Wow. I bought it while I was at your house

while we were drinking spritzers. Of course. I wanted to return it, but it was too late. I was in too deep. It is such a niche purchase. They probably sell one to three of these a year. I mean, who is buying these things? No, I know. But now at our next party, whether that's Fourth of July or Christmas or whatever,

Patrick won't have to mix the spritses. I saved him milliseconds of his life. Well, no, it's funny, though, because I was making spritzes for like six to seven people. Yeah. And so each round took like 30 minutes to make. Yeah, not anymore. It actually does solve a legit pain point. Yeah.

Because they do take a while to make. But do you not enjoy making the spritzes? I feel like you do. Not really. I enjoy drinking them. He doesn't enjoy it as much as he's going to enjoy standing around proudly next to his sprizer machine. Oh, yeah. Going, have you ever seen one of these made in Italy?

Well, yeah. It comes with a little bar mat. It's under there. That's right. A little rubber bar mat. Now the other dads can stand around with you and talk to you about it the next party. Yeah. I can already picture one of them.

He's a German guy. He's going to be like, oh, you have spriza. That's going to be great. Hey, Kyle, can I ask you a question? Yes. What's in the news? Woo. Seven years.

Seven years. Almost six. All right. A likely extinct flathead cat captured on trail cam. Flathead cat. Now, before we get into this, is this an actual cat or a flatheaded catfish, which is also a thing? I literally just saw a dead bunny rabbit. I'd like to turn my cat into a flatheaded cat.

What the hell is Kyle doing? So a man has come to the door of the studio. He's very displeased with what's happening. And he just got a pack. He just got a bag. That was an undeniably drug deal. Did you Uber eats drugs? What is that?

I got some magic mines. Is that what that was? Yeah. Thank you. Oh, nice. That's awesome. Wait, so is there something... Okay, so I need to see what a flatheaded cat.

I must see this immediately. Oh, there we go. Adorable. Likely extinct, flatheaded cat caught on trail camera. Flathead cat has been officially recorded in Thailand for the first time since 1995. I mean, it looks like a tarsier head on a cat's body, on a fox's body. Yeah, the body doesn't look very catish, but the head is like a domestic cathead. So, Kyle, do just a Google image search of flatheaded cats, because these are the trail cameras of the ones in Thailand.

And to be clear, flatheaded cats are not extinct to the world over. Okay. They were just regionally extinct from Thailand, which is what I think this is about. I've never seen this creature. Go to that real frumpy-looking one. Oh, it's an otter. It's an otter. It's an otter with a cat's face.

That is so cute. What is going on here? This is amazing. That one's good. I like his grumpiness. He looks very sad. He's got a legit frown face. Yeah.

Yeah, he's got an angry face. Bro, imagine you're an animal that's natural state is just a frown face. Like all the other animals probably hate you. Like this animal right over here. But he is an actual like downward frown. It's just kind of like a line. That's true. Yeah.

This is a wild creature. I've never seen this. So where can you go see these in the wild? I think that the LA Zoo probably. I think that you can somewhat reliably see them in other parts of Southeast Asia, like around Malaysia. And I know Borneo is a hub for them. Okay. But I think the big news is that they've spread back into Thailand, which is, you know, that's good.

And it's their range is bouncing back. They're covering more ground. Let's see what it says. Trail cameras have confirmed the flat-haired cat in southern Thailand. for the first time in 30 years with detections in 24 and 25. The endangered species has not been officially recorded since 95, considered extinct in the country. And now it's back.

That's good. I mean, look, it's not huge news, but... Oh, it had a... The footage included a female with a cub, so active breeding. That's good, too, right? Oh, my God. They're tiny. 4.4 pounds.

Yeah, their average weight is 4.5 pounds. Yeah, that's a very minute cat. Even smaller than an otter. I'm actually, so were these part of the, like, illegal pet trade? I don't, I don't think so. I mean, look, at the time and place we're in the world now, everything is. Yeah, they are adorable, but everything is now. Yeah.

But I think, you know, what happened in Thailand, what, if I'm reading between the lines, and I haven't looked at the full article yet, there's a lot of empty forest syndrome in Thailand, right? An empty forest syndrome is when they collapse the whole ecosystem. So you have this stunning forest and you're looking, you're like, wow, this place is beautiful. And then you're like, be quiet for a second. Nothing. No crickets, no birds, no bugs.

Like, they've sort of emptied out the forest and collapsed it. But in a lot of places in Thailand and Southeast Asia, the IUCN conservation groups have stepped in and gone, okay, let's protect this. And the animals just do what they naturally do. They just bounce back, right? You just leave a habitat alone. All of a sudden, the worms come back and then the crickets

and then the birds and so on and so forth. So my guess is, if I'm reading between the lines on this, an area that was protected has been protected for long enough now that small predators like the flat-headed cat are able to reoccupy that bit of habitat. Yeah. Kyle, can you pull up the picture again? I just want to point something out here. Does it not look like a battle royale concoction? Absolutely.

It kind of does, yeah. It's like a small beaver with a domestic cat's head. It's the flat back. You never see a flat back on a cat. And there he's just got the straight line of a back, which is very bizarre. My, speaking of Battle Royal creations, my entire camera roll is filled with pictures of the creations you've been sending me. Dude, I sent him to Kyle to talk about today.

I'm not even kidding. Oh, why not pull them up? Dude, so I was like looking through my camera roll and I didn't realize WhatsApp saves all the WhatsApp pictures. Oh, yeah, it's really annoying. It's like, I'll send some really fucking gross shit. Yeah, sometimes I send a shit or something. So Battle Royale has become, it's the game that we made if you're not, if you're new to this.

It's become something that we do in my house every single day. My son Rhodes is six. Loves it to the point that I'm really sick of it and don't want to play it. Sure. Not even joking. But he loves it not just because of the game, but because we make these creatures. Look at them.

Yeah, these are good. These are all winners that I've kept because this is each from around. Okay, so let me see if I can guess what this is. It's fun, fun game. Go for it. Spirm whale head. I'm trying to figure out what the fucking legs on this thing are. Those look like a,

A, not an ostrich, the cassowary. Cassoir. They were ostrich or cassowary legs. I don't remember the body. Obviously something canine-ish. And then I think it was a sperm whale's head. The, uh, I, I only know that because I just saw a cassowary at the L.A. Zoo the other day. Oh, there you go.

Yeah. Kyle, pull up a couple more. Let's see if. And can you guess what? I don't remember what the category was. Oh, my God. That's a flamingo with the web. Do flamingos have web feet?

It was a flamingo legs with a sea pigs. with an alligator snapping turtles. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's perfect. Dude, AI has really got... I remember when we first started doing the battle oils with this? These are way better.

These are really good. Brown bears, body, giraffe legs, and a snake of some type. I think it was a Komoto Dragon. I think, I don't remember. You can't fucking say Komoto Dragon. God of that. Look at that cute one.

So you had to make a cute one, but you ruined it with the turkey fee. I didn't make it. Turkey legs, wallaby body, koala head. It was the Dongmo chicken or whatever it is. Remember that chicken with the fat legs? Yeah.

But yeah, the game, dude, the game's great. My son's so obsessed with it. To the point that I really don't want to play it anymore. And now we do the AI animal creation. It's so fun. Dude, we got this, I just like threw it in my daughter's stocking. Go fish set, but it's animals. Oh, cool.

You just pair animals. She's four and a half, but the game's easy enough that I don't have to let her win because it's completely luck-based. Of course, yeah. And if you ever like, people who have like played blackjack, have you ever had a night where you just were like, yeah, I'll play blackjack, you're in Vegas, whatever. You sit down and you literally don't even get a chance to like play a hand. Your hands are so bad. I know exactly what you mean. Like the dealer has 20, 10 times in a row. And you just lose your money and you're like, I didn't win a single hand. You're like, I didn't enjoy any part of this. I wish I'd never done it. I sat down here for nothing. Yeah, I know exactly. I'm on a statistical anomaly of bad cards. And so I've literally lost, I think, because we have a. little tallyboard, I think I've lost 11 out of 13 games to a 4.5 year old.

No way. And I'm fully trying, and it's fucking pissing me off. It's really pissing me out. Speaking of fantasy-like creatures, see if you guys can guess what this is. Kyle, pull up a picture. Okay. What are we looking at here? This looks like something out of Battle Royale. So I see, okay, we're

in a river. Fast flowing, fast flowing water, something's swimming. Is it an otter? Is it duck-billed platypus of some type? It's a platypus. It is, but wait, you're right. It is a platypus. Is it pink?

It is pink. A pink platypuscy. It's an albino plink plink plushy. It's a plussey. It's an albino platypussee. It's an albino platypus that was just photographed by a fisherman in Australia. And I think there are some better stills coming up. Maybe not.

But it's pink because it's albino. And it's... What happened to this guy? He's just a genetic anomaly? Yeah, just a genetic anomaly that, you know, he got the name Pinky because he stood out. much. Very clever. Yeah. And I mean, that's it. It's just really weird to see such an abnormally colored, you know, albino or lucistic platypus. The funny thing is, like, just like reading the bullet points, it's like, they're not worried about its survival because they're the apex

predator in the habitat. Yeah. I just saw that thing. It's this. It's an eight-inch long duck on a slug body. Do you know that this is kind of interesting? So when the British naturalists first went to Australia. I don't know if you guys know this story or not. They heard reports from aboriginals of platypus. And they like went back to the UK and they're like, oh,

a rot here, Australia. They're also stuck-billed, egg-laying mammal with venom. And they're like, nah, it's not true. You're full of shit. Yeah. And, you know, like this has happened. Yeah, this has happened the world over. And these guys were fully ostracized for even saying that it existed.

Then, this was all true story. one of these British naturalists went back to Australia, collected a dead one, and brought it back to Australia, and they kicked him out of, like, the Natural History Museum. Why? For falsifying an animal. Wow. Oh, they thought he, like, stitched it up. So much so that they dissected it because one of the scientists was convinced that he was going to find stitch marks between the beak and the head of the animal. And they're like, you're a, you're a lunatic.

Get out of here. Yeah, you're, what's the good old British? word for a... Tallywacker. A tallywacker! Yeah, and they kicked him out of the museum and he like spent the rest of his career not a member of that scientific institution.

Yeah. And then finally they found a whole bunch more and they're like, oops. Well, I mean, they're like, so he wasn't lying, but let's not apologize. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's what's going on with the tridactals they found down, down in Peru. What be a tridactal? It's basically a alien

that they've discovered and there's several of them. And right now, they've been like imaging them and taking I don't know they're dissecting them but they're imaging them and doing all these different tests it's the one where colossal was going to be involved and do the DNA the little Peruvian dude in the jar or whatever

not that one that one's old school let's see what these tradectals where are these located uh it's Peru I think they're in Mexico now but look it up you'll find the pictures of them is it that fourth one over there no no no one with the staff that's that's the ones right There. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember this. It's a three-fingered, three-toed human?

Well, they don't know. I mean, people, it's something they've discovered. And so, but, but what the, what are they called, pessimists, skeptics, what the skeptics are saying is the same thing that the platypus guy was accused of. They're saying that this thing has been sewn and stitched together from different deformed humans and babies and shit. And the scientists who are imaging these things are basically saying it's not true.

This is a real thing that they have found. And it doesn't share its complete DNA with humans. So these are the NASCA mummies the same, right? Yes. So just Google NASCA mummies because we'll find better pictures. NASCA. Did I say it like that? No.

Yeah, but look at these, man. I mean, these are crazy. They found aliens and everybody's up in arms about it. There's more than one of these guys? There's like 16, I believe. Oh, wow. 12 or 16. So is, I guess, with a skeptical point of view is that, like, this was some sort of ritualistic thing that they were doing and they were sewing dead people together to make this creature.

I mean, it doesn't look that different than a human mummy except for just that it has three toes and three fingers. Right. Well, and it's, like, got an elongated head, like, skull shape. But they're saying that, like, this has chicken bones and things like that sewn into it. But honestly, there's no proof of that whatsoever. Well, chicken bones would have degraded, wouldn't they? Well, no, the way that it was mummified, right? It's been mummified.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What's, I forget what's, it's mummified with like. I don't know. Claire or something. No, no. Lime. Diometrious Earth or whatever. Okay.

Oh, diatomaceous Earth. Yeah. So that's how these things have been preserved. And I mean, it's a huge controversy. The first one that, the one you were talking about, uh, was the one. that Stephen Greer came out with that movie and we were so stoked about it. It found like the 12-inch little alien human thing. Yeah.

So that one supposedly was debunked and proven to be like a genetically alter or like a, you know, like a deformed little tiny human. Gotcha. They say. Yeah. So somebody gave birth to some nonsense thing. But it lived to like 12 years old and it was tiny. Oh, really? Yeah.

Oh, interesting. It's interesting because your voice is you obviously just got over something. Yeah. I'm sick as shit. We're all getting sick. No, no, I'm not. I was. I was listening to a podcast that I like on the drive over and one of the hosts has a cold.

And it was driving me nuts. But I was like. Thanks for pointing it out to everybody. No, but I was wondering, I was like, is it only bothering me because it doesn't sound like his normal voice? Maybe he sounds better than usual. Is it bothering you, Kyle? No. I can notice it, but it's not bothering me.

So, yeah, I'm just curious if, like, if it's someone's first time tuning in, this isn't his real voice. Right. Dude, I'll... He might be a NASCAR mummy. Yeah, man, I got, I got brutal sick. Everybody's been ill, man.

It's been a horrible fucking month for illness. Everyone's been saying that, like, apparently everyone in the world was sick over New Year's. I didn't know about this. You're going to get it, man. That's the first I'm hearing of it. Wait, to your kids are back in school. No, thanks.

No, you'll be gone. Yeah, exactly. be in India. What kids? So you're going back to India? A month over there. Day after tomorrow. Okay.

Is Kyle going? Negative. Negative. Why now? Oh. I don't know. Did you get fired, Kyle? No, because we're doing TV, not digital stuff.

Yeah. Kyle hasn't broken into the TV crew yet. He shall never. He's useless. Wow. No, it's a real problem for Kyle because you need him for too many other things. That's why he's not doing TV. Yeah.

He's here right now running our podcast and many other digital projects. It's true. Yeah. As long as he's well compensated. So how long are you going back for? Three weeks this time. Wow. That's.

Patrick, did I see you try to grab the candle as if it was a drink? I thought I touched it. I fondled it. And I was thinking about smelling it. And then I was just like, well, it's going to be a mess with the micro. It's not. It wasn't worth all.

the steps that I had to move the mic just, but I just smelled it and it brought me joy. My wife was so disappointed because she got that for us like at the mid-November and we never lit it in the studio once for we don't have a lighter in here. But it's like it's prominently display. Nor could we source one possibly.

Probably displayed. So one of my favorite kids movies is Zootopia. It's the new year. We all ate like pigs over the holidays. Not anymore though. No, we're back in it. Yep. Back in the gym. That's right. clean, healthy eating.

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Peter's covered head to toe in it over there. Oh, they're so good. Yeah, and by the way, when somebody points out how nice your jeans are, you feel really good. And that's experience that happened to me recently. If you feel like they're complimenting your buns. That's right, yeah. Whether they're tailored or they're relaxed or whatever, it's your style, man. You do you. I love the rag and bone denim. The infuse collection, the design's amazing. They have an eight-step process to create rich, multi-dimensional washes, which you can really see in person when you

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Yep. So it's fun. You go from like the polar bears and the ice to the desert. The bunny is the police officer. Exactly. Yeah. So Zootopia 2 came out over Christmas and, you know, did, you know, smash. It was a huge global success.

Yep. But as a result, many people, many people are buying venomous bright blue vipers as pets. Oh, that's a mistake. You're seeing the snake featured in the movie. So, okay, so obviously there's a snake as a character. The character's name's Gary DeSnake. Gary to Snake. All right.

Can we get a clip without being copyright stricken of Gary to Snake? I'd like to hear his speaking voice. He just typed in copyright. Do you see that? Yeah. It's funny because he's so mad at us for being unprofessional right now. But then for him to type in copyright into YouTube is insane. He's a loser.

Gary. Gary does not. Oh, yeah. The snake. Yeah. I like him. Yeah, by the way. He's great.

Cute voice. Hey, Kyle, would you Google how much for a bright blue viper? No, I'm just kidding. 250. Oh, it's literally right. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. So wait, so what are they saying he is?

They're saying like he's a manchin viper or something? He's a blue insularis. Oh, interesting. So pull up a pick, please. I did not know you could even get those. So, yeah. Wow. Look at this thing.

It's beautiful, though, man. Honest, is that AI? That's a real. real picture of one? No, that's a real picture. That's crazy looking. I could see why you would want to have one of those. It's a very bad idea. To own one of these. Yeah. I mean, extremely venomous, right? Extremely venomous. And especially because he doesn't have that voice. Well, no, it's not. Well, that too. But like, you're buying a pet snake of something that's reminiscent of a kid's character. So if you're buying it. Hey, I'm Gary. Right. And you're probably

buying it if you have children in the house. Yes. You're not buying it as an, like, I didn't see the movie. You didn't go to Zootopia too as just like a random 40 year old man. That's right. You're not like, yeah, I'm going to get one of these snakes because of Zootopia. You're like, oh, my kids will love this. Boy. So there's e-commerce platform, like

on Chinese and Indonesian e-commerce platforms where you can buy these rare these types of reptiles. And sales have spiked causing prices to surge because so many people are buying this rare blue viper. That's ridiculous. This is legal to own in China, is it legal

to own in the U.S.? I bet in certain states it is. Yes. Wow. Throughout the U.S., it's got to be state-specific, right? Yeah. Kyle, are you pricing one right now? I'm not. Have you considered it? No.

No. No. I said, ah, before saying, no. I really haven't. They are cool, but yeah, I don't want a very venomous pit might be in my home. Gary. How easy is owning a snake in general? Extremely. Really?

Yeah. I mean, it varies. you know, there are some snakes with pretty high husbandry demands, but the most part, like, my snakes, like my two rosy boas, I forget they exist for like a month at a time. And I'll look and I'll be like, oh, they haven't had water for three weeks. And they're perfectly fine. Right. They're desert snakes just sit in their terrarium, okay. Crawl around. I feed them when I remember. This is not good practice, by the way. I'm not saying anybody should do what I'm doing. Well, also your wife is obviously taking care. Of course. Yeah. That's why I forget they exist like my children. But so loaning a venomous viper like this. Now, I love this comparison

here. Look at how happy Gary the snake looks. Duh. Look at how mean. Degary looks. And look how Dairy looks. Look at how mean the real pit viper looks, dude. Very mean. If we had a matching voice, what do you think the mean snake sounds like?

He's very slithery. He's like, fuck, I'll eat you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but like you got to, like if you have one of these things, you got to take it out to clean the enclosure. Yes, exactly right. you're handling a venomous viper which means you have to hook it and you have to put it into a bucket and they develop

feeding response it's just not this is a very unpopular opinion for reptile people keeping venomous snakes is just not a great idea it sounds like a lot of work like look how beautiful that is I get it it's a piece of art but if you have children in the house or you're not an expert or you're not experienced

you shouldn't keep that yeah I go to the zoo and take a peek oh boy it's stunning though did you see that strike speed too? Yes insane That's your finger if you're like, oh, I'm just going to fill up his waterball. Because here's what happens, right? Here's why people actually get bitten. It's not feeding it.

It's not cleaning its enclosure. All those things are like, all right, I will, you know, I'll feed it on the tongs. I'll pull it out. I'll redo the whole enclosure. It's the day where you're like, I'm going to pull out his shed. I'm going to pull out his skin. You know, he's in the corner and the shed's over there. I'll just grab it.

You know, I'm not going to go to the trouble of hooking the snake, pulling him out of the enclosure. Right. You know, it's like I'll just reach in and grab it because that takes five seconds versus five minutes. Right. And then boom. And that's when it happens. It's like it's those little things.

He's wearing, he's wearing those hex armor gloves, though, a guy fight through that. Yeah. What if it just bites him on the elbow? Sure could. That's sticking out. I mean,

he's not holding it in a way where he's protected from it, though. Shouldn't he be holding it by the back? That guy definitely got that snake to make his blue eyes pop. And it's working. They're both dreamy.

Yes, very chiseled face. He's got a kind of a Christopher walking vibe. This guy. Jurassic Encounter. What is that, Kyle? Click the, what is this? Is this just this kid's thing?

Or is it a whole place? Interesting. Well, this guy has a lot of venomous snakes. Wow. Is that a monitor? The big, look at monitor. Is that a monitor? Black dragon, they call them.

It's an all black variant of a monitor. It's huge. Oh, boy. Look at that. Yeah. All these guys get bitten eventually. It's just, well, we know a couple recently. Well, speaking of which,

uh, Edwin sent us this thing. Oh, yeah. Is there a Forrest Galante died hoax going around the internet right now? I heard about that. Did Edwin send it in the group? He did. I haven't seen it.

I haven't seen it. Can you show me? Kyle, just go to the group WhatsApp with Edwin. When did he send it? This morning. I swear to God, I haven't looked at it. What is it? Is it an actual news article? Oh, look at that.

That's nice. It says. Can you zoom in? I cannot read that. Sad news. Forrest Galante, renowned American wildlife explorer from the show Extincter Alive, tragically killed in Black Bear Attack while filming in the forest.

In the forest. Millions of fans in shock. That's how you know it's a lie. Who makes this? Also, they've got your, it says RIP 1988 to 2025. Yeah. I'm thinking you might have been born

a couple years before. I was born an 88. Were you? Yeah. Just a wee babe. Somebody did their research. Yeah. But who made this and why? Who is the purse scroll up? T.I. Gonzi, knock it off. It came out on Christmas Eve, too, by the way. Oh, yeah. Look at that. Who found this?

Harrowing body cam footage emerges. So you were in the woods in Tahoe wearing your body cam as you do. I always do. I have one on right now. I like that they had you mauled by a black bear of all things. It is a shocking. Oh, boy, that's hilarious. I love the little. Edwin sent this. I got to look at this. This is ridiculous. He didn't send the link. This is a good graphic. They put the little circle with you potentially being... Oh, yeah, look at someone on Facebook fair.

I'm posting this on my Instagram, going R-I-P-Me. VAR South Africa posted it. Is that a reputable Facebook account? I'd say probably not. How many followers they got? Oh, yeah, look at this, Edwin. Oh, my goodness. Wow.

You got a decent following, 66? Oh, it's a page of lies. Oh, that's what the page is. It's like one of those. I bet this is the first person to post it and then someone else picked it up. And then it ended there because no one cared. Yeah, exactly. But now it's going to be huge because you're posting it.

I'm posting it right now. I'm fueling the fire. What are you going to say? What's the cap shone? Poor me. Rip me. Yeah. Nice.

I love how like Edwin is seriously like very upset by this. He is and I couldn't care any less. Hey, before. Please. address this. Please, it must. Before I forget this,

this is very important. Kyle, I want everybody to know, I conducted a hilarious prank this morning. Ooh. On one of you. Oh, no.

I hope it wasn't more, boy. One of you three, not going to say more than that. Just do me a favor. When you figure out what the prank is, make sure you film it.

This sucks. We're either of us, was anyone poisoned? Not yet. Not yet. No. No, no poison. It has, it's a hard.

I promise it's harmless. I promise. He was lingering in the parking lot. He gave you a box with something in it. That's true. Yeah, there's a blue Manching viper in that. He was lingering in the fucking parking lot.

He came over by my car. He was lingering in the parking lot. Did you piss in my guest? And he had lots of questions about my car this morning. Oh. You son of a bitch. I'm going out there after this. Definitely did.

So stupid. When did I have questions about your car? Shouldn't be so trusting. What do you mean? You're like, oh, I see you in the parking lot. I was like, why is he calling me? Because I thought you were sitting in the parking lot. Whatever.

I'm going to look at my car right now. He didn't call you about your car. Dude, speaking of my car, my fucking wife got hit and run down the highway yesterday. Side swiped and the car took off. Is she okay? She had no injuries, but my car's fucked up. Oh, really? Yeah, so I had to do a police report and all that.

I mean, the hit and run is so grim. No, yeah. Like, to me, that should be life sentence. Absolutely. Do they ever catch the person? I feel like they never once caught the person that's done a hit. So I went, I googled like Los Angeles hit and run reporting. Yeah.

And they're like, if you weren't seriously injured, just fill out this form. Right. And you just fill it out and you get a PDF for your insurance. They're not going to investigate. No, they don't care at all. They're not even going to take the time to type in the license plate. Well, and I think the majority of hit and runs are probably from illegal people anyway, right?

And that's why they're not stopping. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Like, they don't have insurance or they're not, you know, whatever it is. Like they don't. Because if you have insurance, you're just like, God damn it. What kind of car was it?

She said it was like a, like a super old like corolla shitbox that looked like it had been in other accidents. That's a deaf no insurance car. They're just like, fuck it. Boom. Like they're just pinballing around the highway. Bumper cars, bro. Safe.

Did you have a webcam or do you have a dash cam? Oh, I want to get one. Do you? I got to get one. Oh, he does, yeah. You don't need one until you do. I thought those, those, like, came and went in, like, 97.

Oh, no, dude. They're fantastic to have. I actually don't have it in the new car. What does it do? It rolls all the time? Yeah. Because it's plugged in, and then it just overrites everything.

What after? Like, oh, wow. No, it's, it's key, bro. This is the only way you get your engines. I do kind of want one. I saw this clip that it went kind of viral of people. So basically, someone's driving,

and they have one of these cams running out their windshield. Okay. Someone cuts in front of them and slams the brake. Mm-hmm. And the person doesn't rear-end them. Yeah. The driver, like, slams the brake and doesn't rear-end them. And then goes in reverse.

And so then they pull, the car that tried to cause the accident pulls forward, puts it in reverse and speeds into that. Yeah. No way. Yeah, I saw that too. And they do this so that they can claim that they got rear-in. Right. Yeah.

And they're going to fake injuries and all this shit. Oh, wow. And then they see the cam. And they're like, oh, shit. Yep. And so then they get out, they're going to pretend that this accident happened, and they caught these people, and they had done it like five or six other times. No way. Fucking trash.

And got money or got whatever out of it. So they just extort the people on the spot. They go, look, I'm all fucked up, but give me a thousand bucks. That and like false insurance claims. Oh, interesting. But so they get busted by this camera. And I was like, man. I'd be so pissed.

I'd beat the shit out of this. I kind of feel like I sure get one. No, that's just why you can't. Yeah, too. How do they know that the person wasn't just going to get out? and just roundhouse all of them to death. That's what I would have done. They saw it was like a heavy set woman and they were like maybe there's kids in the car.

Dude, like, look, she's pretending to be injured. A bunch of women? Dumb bitch. I just assumed this was like some angry guy. Dude, this is why you carry a fucking gun. Mace. What would carrying a gun do in the situation? Every one of them in the head.

You would not. I know. I would want to. You would be a pussy about it and apologize. No way. Everybody else here. Are you kidding me the reverse? I would not.

I'd be freaking out. I, uh, dude, I've been for two and a half years living in this house where if someone parks directly, uh, like, you know, if I have to reverse out of my driveway and if someone parks on the curb on the other side of the street, I have to do like a 16 point Austin Powers turn to get out of my driveway. It's taken me until this morning to ask my neighbor's nanny to not park there. Yeah. And even so, I like felt terrible about it. You were sheepishly doing it. Yeah. Yeah, of course.

Yeah. Like, it's, it's been the bane of my existence for almost a thousand days. And I know how this goes, because you tell your wife how you're pissed off, you're going to fight the person that's parking like that. Like, it's unacceptable. Like, you're going to give them a piece of your mind and then you go over there and you're like, hey, excuse me? Yeah. It just so happened that I saw her going to her car to get something as I was pulling out of the driveway. And she's like, oh, sorry.

And I was like, yeah, um, like my voice got really high. If it's at all possible. Next time throw some fucking nails on the spot. Oh, I fantasized so many times. It's like fucking, I was like elaborate shit. I was like, I'm going to go to the deli. I'm going to get six pounds of roast beef. It's like super thin and I'm going to roast beef or car.

Like all this stupid shit. Roast beef or car. So I heard a great one. I'm on a subreddit. It's called Unethical Life Pro Tips. It's called Roast Beef Pranks. I've seen that one on there. It's great throwing meat on people's cars.

But this person's husband had stomach cancer and had to sleep on the couch in this duplex. Okay. And the neighbors were like that moved in after six months were total fucking horrible people like loud. She went over there. She's like, please, my husband has stomach cancer. Can you guys keep it down after 10 p.m. whatever? And like they refused and just were horrible for like a year and a half. She's like, and we're moving.

and we want to, I really want to fuck them over before we move. And so I was reading through the comments and everybody's suggestions, Viper under the door. No, that's a good one. But a good one. This is even better.

You can purchase bed bugs. Did you know this? You can purchase. That's so evil. That's dark. And they had, there's a crawl space that connects the two. Kyle, look up how much bed bugs are.

And why can you purchase them? Why can you buy these? I don't know. It shouldn't be legal though. Bed bugs for purchase. No way. That's the best domain name ever. Dude, this person is a bad human being.

They're breathing bedbugs. W.W.W. www. Cheapbedbugs. I can't believe this is legal, though. They're not cheap. Hey, Kyle, do me a favor. 50 bucks for 25.

Do me a favor, because this is as bad as it gets. Send this to Mike Nore. Is that like your detective that will kill people? Mike Nore. the guy who Nick wronged with the bullet ant. Oh, yeah. Because this is as bad as a catch, dude. As revenge for him.

No, that's horrible. In the house is worse than a bulletin. It's a brother. I'm going to, I'm sending this to my ignore. Dude, I shouldn't have said anything.

Honestly, for us, don't, because I don't, you're traveling a lot. I don't think you need that karma. Yeah, you're right. You're right. We're not going to do it.

I might do it. But so that that was bad. And then the second, the second top one that I saw, which I thought was better than that. you can go and get fish sauce from like a Vietnamese market and it's better

than putting the fish like in the fucking crawl space because they can't find the carcass and I was like that's a reasonable one you go down there and you just sprinkle fish sauce everywhere and oh dude take off the level of step up your game have you ever had bed bugs yes I've heard about it

I had it one night of my life in a cheap roadside motel in Baja it didn't almost ruin my relationship it was one of the most miserable nights of my life. I woke up like screaming. My skin was on fire. I ran into the shower.

I turned on the hottest shower I could. Then I tried sleeping on the floor and the bed bugs had made it like from the bed. That's like such an infestation if they're like It was unreal dude. And then it was just like I was like screaming. My itch was burning. I would have slept outside.

Unbelievable. Oh, we left. We left it like two in the morning. We just drove away. That's worse than the fucking cockroach in our pizza. The second. We set it down at the Motel 6 in Santa Barbara. Yeah.

We've told the story. Yeah. It's unbelievable. But it was as if the cockroach grew out of the pizza. We set down for like one minute. It breathed Motel 6 air and animated. I just opened it up. You're a little shuffling like, what's that?

Fucking cockroach on top of our pizza? I did a smell prank on a girl that was in my dorm. Smell prank. We pranked a lot in the dorm. Yeah, of course. And she, for unknown reasons, filled, we had a. old school key. Yeah.

We didn't have like a fob or a card. Yeah. Like a skeleton key. Yeah, literally. I literally, my dorm was a castle from the 1800s. That's pretty cool. It was drafty as fuck.

But it had a key and she filled it with honey. Okay. And so like we probably could have like troubleshot it, but we were just like, okay, we just can't lock our door for the rest of the year. Yeah. But to get her back, we went, me and my roommate had, we're pledging two different frats. Uh-huh.

We were getting pretty fratty. And so we both went to our frat kitchen and took all the, you know, these giant commercial-sized things of pickles. Okay. They had like, you know, thousands of pickles because every frat has like a sandwich stage. A Costco-sized pickle jar. And so we just dumped like, I don't know, six to eight gallons of pickle juice like all over her carpet in her room. Oh my God. And it like really, it was like actually very mean.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was just like it was overwhelming pickle smell and there was nothing that could be done. for like six months. Yeah, there's nothing he could do about that. No,

that's bad. You got to get rid of the carpet. Was it the, it was the, it was the carpet. It was dorm carpet. Yeah, like the worst carpet

down carpet that you can't get rid of. Exactly. Dude, that's fruit britt. I'm surprised you didn't report you. Around, over the holidays between Christmas and New Year,

I posted a video. So I like Avatar. I love Avatar. So only movie I've seen in the theater three times. There you go. Yeah. And it's great.

It immerses you into this whole cinematic world. And I posted a thing on TikTok of all places about the creatures and Avatar and how James Cameron pulled inspiration from those animals or from the real world to make those animals. This is an insane statement. But TikTok saw that, sent it to James Cameron and James Cameron requested that I interview him about the animals and Avatar. Amazing. This all happened in a couple days. So I did a sit-down interview with James Cameron and we

it was funny because we just... Were you guys remote or in the same room? No, we went to a studio in L.A. Incredible studio. In fact, Kyle, I'll text you some pictures of it right now. You can pull it up. Incredible, incredible studio thing. Is this where they made Avatar? No, but it's where they did some of the like red carpet events and stuff like that. So that you walk

through Pandora to get to this area. Oh, wow. And there's an Avatar museum built in that they have like, you know, the real loin cloth that so and so was wearing and the spear that so and so through and that kind of stuff. So Avatar is the highest grossing trilogy of all time. Of all time. And so they have like

they basically have their own museum there. That's like a studio. I guess there's a whole bunch of these. But Kyle, I'm sending you some on WhatsApp right now and you can pull it up. I remember when the first Avatar came out, it was so anticipated and hyped up and huge. Because of like

the 3D tech. Yeah, man. It was new. And it was crazy. And then it was like, what movie did they compare it to? But like you, it was so like Fern Gully. Remember they always used to say, oh, it's real life Fern Gully, but it's like the level of it is so unbelievable. What made it such a cool thing

was just that like for me it was the creatures. Oh yeah. The stories and whatever, you know, but like just all the cool animals that live on that planet because we, I think it was podcast one. We talked about like how cool it would be to go. Oh, I asked you like if you could go

be the one explorer to explore a new planet that was full of wildlife and document it, but you never got to come back. Would you do it? And you said in a second. Yeah, right now. It changes now that I have kids and we didn't have kids six years ago. Yeah, exactly. Now I'd have to be like, well, can the family visit?

Right. Yeah. All right. So anyway. So I ended up having this like 30 or so minute interview with James Cameron, which I loved. It was super cool. But we basically just nerded out about evolution.

We really didn't talk much about the creatures in Pandora. I'm sorry, dude. I'm having trouble focusing on anything but your hard nipples. Oh, okay. It's not. It is cold in here. Can you like pull out your shirt a little bit? Do you think I wore a skin tied shirt to not show off my nipples? Yeah, I'm sorry. You know how freezing cold it is. Let me ask you a question. Oh my God. Look at those nips. Are you serious right now? You're nipping out big time, boy. She is. All right. All right. Sorry. Well, now I caught folks about anything but my own nipples. No, but so James Cameron and I ended up having basically a 30 minute conversation. about evolution, which was really enjoyable.

And we didn't get to do something... Hold on one set, Kyle. Something I really wanted to do, which was to dig into specifics of the animals. So I had Edwin and Kyle create a game of the animals from Pandora and how do we think, what do we think James Cameron pulled inspiration from

to build those animals? So before we do that, I'll show you this museum quickly or the studio. So you walk in the door and there's one of the big dragons right there. And I even called a dragon James Cameron. he told me not to call it a dragon, so I don't remember what they're called. But, um, dragon. So this is like where the studio was. Keep going, Kyle.

That was the setup. But then they have all those real artifacts there. There are the, um, wow, that's cool. What are they called? Navi. Navi, thank you. There are the Navi life size, but you walk through. Is there a video, Kyle? I thought I did a video. These are all real artifacts. So check this out. This was walking through. I like get let in. And this is what I walk through to go to the stage. That is great. And I was like, this is wild. It is awesome. And they have like the real eggs and the jellyfish things.

It was really, really cool. So this is like, is this available to the public or is this like exclusive just his place to chill? No, neither. This is a Disney thing. Yeah. No, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, on the Disney lot. Okay. And then this is where they did like the red carpet, like early screenings and stuff like that.

And they just built this super cool little Pandora world that you walk through to get there. You know it'd be a hell of a prank if you're James Cameron. What's that? You just like have a buddy who's kind into like kind into drugs like Retep. Yeah. And you just go, okay, I want to do something fun. Yeah. Take some mushrooms.

Yeah. You're going to put a blindfold on. I'm going to, and you're going to eat some mushrooms in the car. And then 30 minutes later in an undisclosed place, I'm going to unblindfold you and you're going to trip your fucking nuts off. And then you just bring them to this Pandora set. That would be me.

That would be awesome. That would be awesome. That would be great. Would it? It would either be the best moment of your life or you would, fucking tear your skin off. No way, dude. This would be awesome if you were shrooming here. There's Jake Sully's axe, like from the real, you know, the actual props from the movie. This is like a built for hallucinating. I mean, it, yes. I've never, oh, whatever, that's just

the interview. But I, I have never been to any movie thing before, ever. Sure. I've never been on set of a movie being made. I've never been to a red carpet event or I've never been to anything like this. So it was very, very interesting for me. And then, yeah, I think it comes. out this week or something. I'm actually not too sure where where they're even posting it. But it was really cool. So I noticed there though. So James Cameron's definitely taller than you. He's got to be pretty tall. He's a tall dude. He's like probably six three. So they gave you guys stools that perfectly work for being six three. But it looks like your feet maybe aren't on the bar. Oh, I don't know. That woman standing in the way. I don't recall.

I remember being comfortable. So it kind of been too bad. Your feet are not on the bar. They're dangling. Are they? They're not. I feel like I would have remembered that. They're dangling. He's not 4-11. This guy can't even sit in a chair probably. Yeah, you look like a child in an airplane seat. All right, Kyle, you're going to host the game here. You figure it out as we go.

Pull up some avatar critters. Let's figure it out. All right. This is the Akula, which is the largest reef apex predator on Pandora using ambush tactics from depths rather than pursuit. Okay. Yep. So he's got...

It's a giant mouth full of megalodon type teeth. Is it a three-way mouth? Is that what I'm seeing? I think it is, right? Triangle mouth. It opens like that, triangle mouth. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Kyle, are there any other pictures?

Can you Google search Akula and see if we get any other pictures? I mean, it's obviously coming from a shark and then it has some different type of face. Yes, but I think I'm, oh, there we go. Oh, yeah, I remember that in the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is cool. Wait, so what's going on with that mouth? So its mouth is doing like a sarcastic fringe head mouth. Do you remember those fish that open their mouth in that three-way?

So I think he's taken inspiration from the sarcastic fringe head out of the mouth. And then the body to me is, it is sharkish, but I almost see like a... Whaleshire? Maybe I see more like a, a, not a pleasiosaur. What's that one marine reptile, the big, big gnarly one, extinct one? Mosasaur. Mosesor, thank you. Mosesor.

Like Google image of Mosesor. Am I wrong here? Let's see. Mosesor. Yeah, maybe a little bit. Yeah, no, I was wrong. I thought it had that shape. I'm totally off, but I don't know.

I just think it's so cool. Shark with, what did you say? I'm going fringed. Whale shark, megalodon, sarcastic fringe head. Sarcastic fringe head. I think we can agree on that? Can we agree on that? I think, call them up.

See if that's what happened. me as digits. No, but I, okay, I'm, I came to the table with sarcastic fringe head. I think that's a good call. Whale shark body's about right. And then what do we say? Megalodon for the teeth. Yeah. Yeah. James, if you disagree, put it in the comments. Yeah, yeah. He'll definitely watch this. All right. What do we got next, Kyle? Next is Tookoon. Not sure about that pronunciation. How would you pronounce that? Tulcun. Are these, okay. These aren't the real ones. Can you pull this up though? So these are from from the second movie and the third movie and the

tool kuhn because i went and saw the third movie in theaters it was awesome they are the whale like creatures that the navi work with you know they swim with them and they interact with them and i think this obviously takes inspiration from a whale right even like they're singing and their emotional intelligence what is the head that you guys are getting there is a dinosaur is that the head like that yeah that's on its nose basically oh so see it's got isn't that like a whale shark where they come up and feed and open like that? No, I mean, look, it's got a very

whale-like body, right? We can all agree on that. Yes. But then it's tail thin is different. It's got a weird split tail thin. But then it's got that thing on the nose that there is is a dinosaur with that. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it's called where it's got like the double blunt horns coming out of the nose. Kyle, see if you can figure that out in a in a... It's the platosaurus

Rex, of course. He's just going to type in copyright question mark. All right, let's try the next one. All right. I like that though. The tool coon are a big. By the way, in the third movie, if you haven't seen it, no spoilers. The tool kun are a big, big character.

Yeah, it's really cool. Really cool. I love it because the whole of Avatar is about connecting with nature. And they like literally plug into these guys. It's pretty spice. Yeah. So the next is Thanator, which is an apex predator of Pandora. Okay, this is from the first movie.

Correct. Yeah. This thing is awesome in the first movie. Get us a couple different images on the Google search. So it's a rainforest. Predator has six legs can run up to 40 miles an hour according to whoever wrote that website. Oh, go to that second pick right there. Oh, that's so...

Oh, yeah, it's got these little like frills coming out of its head. So it's got peacock-like feathers for sexual selection. Can we all agree on that? Yes. Yeah, that's what it's for. Because it's ugly as shit on the face. But hold on a minute. I remember in the movie when it does that and it goes,

Grilled lizard. Right. Or one might say, what's the, uh, Velociraptor? It wasn't the velociraptor, but I know what you're talking about. The one from Jurassic Park. In Jurassic Park. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's on a wolfish body, but with six legs. And let me see. There's that picture. So there's some insect, right? Six legs. Oh, okay. Let's see that picture.

All right, so we're going, Frilled Lizard. God, it looks badass. Yeah, like a wolf body. Wolf, wolf. It's got an otter's tail. See, the big flat tail? No, it really does. That's an otter tail.

think what they did is I don't think he took inspiration from an insect. I think he wanted to make it really long. Okay. And was like, it's not going to look stable with just front and back legs. I need to give it some legs in the middle. Some mid legs. Interesting. Anatomically, and I don't know if James Cameron will watch this, but of everything that we know, and I don't want to be insulting, that's my whole point of saying that, but of everything that we know of biology, there's nothing like this. No. There's nothing that gets a second set of legs next to its front set of legs. If you go from the second, the middle legs to the back, I could definitely see lion. Yes, absolutely. And I love the otter tail because if I'm not mistaken, they make a point

of saying in the Avatar universe that the atmosphere is much thicker. And that big flat tail is for movement in a thicker medium like water. That's why otters have that big flat tail, right? So it's actually really cool. It's almost like the four back legs, our legs, and then the two front ones are more like hands and arms it looks like oh so you're saying like it runs on the front on the four legs and then it has those other two is like almost like alien arms you know like maybe that's what it looks like i like that i also like the saber tooth cat kind of teeth very much so except it as three cool i like it that's a great scene in the first movie it's so good oh mountain banshee oh well this is the thing i called a dragon a few minutes ago and got yelled at by james

can he literally asked me not to call it a dream And here we are. Did he snap at you as if you weren't equals? No, he was extremely polite about it. But he's like, it's not a dragon. He's like, God damn it, you're right. Yeah. Mountain Banshee.

That's right. But they have, what is the, what is the Navi name for it? It's something else. Could you quickly Google that? You think like he did that because it was such a thing? It's been such a thing that people have been calling it. I guarantee on set, you know, like he heard like PA's and like camera assistance calling it a dragon.

It's just like, oh, God. I can't just be correct. So the Echron or the mountain banshee. So the Western people, the earthlings call it a mountain banshee,

but the Navi call it an Echron. And it's something that you ride that flies, that is dragon-like, fair to say. A dragon-like. Yeah. I don't know. Well, but dragons aren't real. So what real creature could this be based off of?

Like some dinosaur, like a teradactal? for sure. Yeah. It's got a bit of a dragonfly thing going on too, doesn't it? It just doesn't have those like oscillating wings that the flying fish one has. Right. Yeah.

In the second movie. But it does have, go to the, go down one into the right cow where it's standing up like that. Oh yeah. It's really cool. Oh, it does have like dragonfly wings there on the on the outside. Imagine just being like,

I got this idea for a universe. They're like, go for it, man. It's much funny as you need. Yeah. I'd be like, This is the coolest thing I've ever done. I'm just going to make up critters and have fun with it.

And then we're also going to build you like a world on the Disney lot where you can just have people come and... Deer mushrooms. Dyer horse. Remember, they ride the planes people ride these. I think in the first movie. Dyer horse. So this obviously comes from an elephant. Elephant? I'm kidding. Oh, okay.

It's a horse. It's a Clydesdale with the snout of a elephant. Bernard Park. Her nann eater. Very accurate. What is the sail fin on it, though? Oh, I like that. Where's a sail fin?

Oh, hawk. It looks like a perfectly groomed like the Anahezer bush horses. Exactly. You know what I mean? When they cut the, cut the main. This guy has six legs too, though.

No, he's a, is he? He's got six legs. He's a six leger? He's a six leger. Oh, so that's a whole thing for the terrestrial animals. But unlike, unlike, well, maybe that again,

is because the environment is thicker. Yeah. And they need more power to move through it. I like it. This doesn't look like the front to our hands. These all look like legs on this animal. Yeah, this guy's a trotter. Yeah, he's a trotter for sure.

You know what it is? It's a seahorse combined with a Clydesdale. There it is. There we go. Let's do a couple more. I really like this. I kind of want to see the viper wolf. I don't know what this thing is.

Let's peep a viper wolf. Okay. All right. So I remember these guys. These are the ones that like kind of hunt them. Yeah, they're like a little bit smaller. And then in the first movie, you see one like nursing its baby. This thing looks a bit terrifying.

I actually talked about this in the TikTok video that got picked up. Contrary to its name, where it says viper wolf, where you think, okay, it's a combination of a snake and a wolf, I actually see these guys as like coyotes. Yeah. Because they're smaller. They're not as big as our last six-leggar, whatever the one we talked about was.

Yeah. Not the horse, but the one before that. Right. Do you know what I mean? It's like this is the coyote if that other one is the wolf. It's like the smaller, more agile, more ambush predatory. That's the scene. Remember, it's got its pups.

That must have been the second movie. I don't remember that. Oh, I thought it was the first one. How big does it say it is, Kyle? And Edwin's Sheet. I love it. It says the Pandora Research Foundation followed a Viper Wolf for two months.

What? It's what it said. Oh, they mean like in the movie universe. I think so. Well, it's really crazy. In talking to James Cameron, he... Six feet.

He mentions all these other things that happened. And he was explaining how many scenes got cut and all kinds of stuff to me. but he mentions all these other. So he'll say something like, trying to give an example, oh, well, you know, these viper wolves actually had that group of biologists that you see in the first and second and third movie study them and follow them for two months.

And they went up into blank mountains and they lived, you know, by watching them through. Like he has this whole like 360 degree world mapped out in his head. But then the movie is just like this like in point that you're seeing a storyline. It's really interesting. But he's written all that. Like he's actually written out like then. And then the biologist went and did this and blah, blah, blah. Sorry, go ahead.

No, it's almost like, you know, a book. It's like the book would have all this extra stuff or the series of books. And then it had to be put into a screenplay form. But he's got the whole world either written down or his head. It's like Game of Thrones. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was thinking. I want to see the Zach Rue, a Western Frontier Megafauna, are reaching 65 feet tall.

Whoa. I haven't seen a second or third. It's not a cacru, you lunatic. Six. Five. These dolls big. Whoa. Is this in the movie?

I don't remember these guys. Oh, wait. It's like a straight up dinosaur. No, I do remember these guys. They come in at the end when, when AWA helps them fight the earthlings. Yeah, because they were an extended period of torpor. Perrier? That's what it said.

They lived, they lived underground in an extended period of turpour. You can't say it. Oh, boy. But I got a, I know what, how this was inspired. Tell me. It's a bison. Mm-hmm. With a helmet on.

No, it's a bison with like big horn sheep. Big horn sheep. Yeah. I see that. Like the horn is, goes back and is attached by the top of the head and goes around. It's very bisony. I'll give you that. It's got the hump.

It's got the right body build. Maybe rhino feet because it's rocking more rhino feet than little dainty bison hooves. And look at the coloring on its hump there with the, with the, with the, It almost looks like it has just, it's this weird, three stooge's. It's the three stooges guy. Hercut, Mo. Kyle, go to the one on the bottom right where there's the fur of them, like up one from there.

Yeah, that one. Oh, it's too tiny. Oh, come on, make a big sad. It's, I love this. I love the idea. I mean, I think that's why I liked Pokemon, not that I was big into it or liked any of these things. You just create a world of different animals.

Like, it's so much cooler than a world of different creatures. Well, it's exactly what are you going to say about? about Pokemon. I, this is a new revelation. I didn't play it or anything. I just like the concept on it. I watched the cartoon. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. You're telling me neither of you watched the Pokemon cartoon. No, it came out when you were in college. You're relevant. Is that where you guys were doing for like pre-drinks? You know what? Let's move on in conversation. No, so I want to revise my question now. Okay. Because we talked about it literally on podcast 1-7 calendar years ago.

Almost six regular years ago. Okay, so I'm going to revise my offer to you. We've discovered this planet that has tons of megafauna. Predators, prey.

It's crazy. We've seen it in telescopes. We can tell that there's crazy shit. Okay. We're going to send you on a solo mission with all the stuff you need to safely,

you know, explore this planet. Yep. And document everything and bring it back. You're going to be like the Charles Darwin of this new planet. We'll name it after you.

Say less. Okay. But you do have to go solo and the round trip is 15 years. Five years commuting each way. Five years exploring. How do I have to go now? Yes.

Well, no, you'll have to train for six months. See, if my kids were like in high school or something, I'd be like, yeah, no problem. But with little kids, like, I'm missing their whole childhood. I know that's a dumb reason. Let's just say your kids are dead. No. No, you'll return.

you'll be in your mid-50s, your early 50s, and your kids will be in college. I have to do it. I have to. You'd go? I have to. Your wife's going to be pissed. By the way, she'll remarry.

You're going to return to a wife who's also in her mid-50s. Yeah. Well, I'll get a new one because I'll be really famous by that. She'll be 26. When you come back, you're going to just land on a different continent and never talk to your old family again. No, I have to do it. You have to do it. You have to literally go in and document all of this new life and open up this new world and think about how to do it better.

And I've got to do it. I feel like my kids would understand. You'll have like video conferencing software. Like you'll be able to zoom with them. Yeah, I'll do that. That won't get old at all. That will last year. Yeah.

Yeah, they get sparser and sparser the calls. Absolutely. Are you not going? I'm not. Because I'm one, no way. Not qualified, like, I could take pictures and write down descriptions, which is kind of all that the old school people did. It's literally all you do. Even without the photos.

You could shoot some stuff and put it in boxes, too. I could collect some specimens. I could shoot a high power rifle and collect a toenail sample. You're pretty much saying everything that you do. Scoop some poop. I'm not qualified for the alone part. I would be one day into the trip out there and be like this. I'm claustrophobic.

I'm done with this. Yeah. Oh, man. And then you're like, oh, five years to go. Hey, answer the question. Let us know below if you would go. Peter, let's do the thing. Oh, man.

Go to a W. Go to where we go. Wild times. Dot club forward slash info. All the links. God, I'm sick. But go there and check it out. I don't know what to say.

Wildtimes. Dot club forward slash info. We do bonus pods. Somebody else. Yeah. That's it. I think that's it. I think you said it.

But do answer below. Would you go if you had this opportunity? The right answer is yes. Yes. Say no if that's what you really believe. That's true. Don't just try to show off for Forest. I mean, do it a little bit.

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