Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Great White Shark Found in Lake, Man Attacked By Flying Shark, & Shark Week

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

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Yeah. Very porny. Welcome to the Wild Times. This is our podcast where we talk about wildlife and animals and comedy and fun things. Sometimes we just do brackets about food. You never know what you're going to get over here. It's a smorgasbord. I'm your host, Forrest Galante, the broologist. I've also got a professor, PhD in podcasting, and a broducer who is just a really good producer, actually. Thanks, man. So there's a lot going on. I think we have a lot to talk about here.

We do. You got a Shark Week coming out. Hey, live every week like it's Shark Week. Is that their slogan? Is Jason Marlowe hosting it again? You know, who is hosting Shark Week? I don't even know. I think they've given up on the celebrities.

I don't know. I remember the last one I saw was John Senate. John's 2024. Do 2025. I don't think they have anyone. I think they've run out of money. Tom Bergeron. Oh, that's actually awesome.

I like Tom Bergeron. The Stars. And he did Dancing with the Sharks. Oh, that's right. We talked about that. Yeah, that's fun. Do you have one coming? What is it?

I got Dos. Amigo. What? I got one on Wednesday, one on Friday. Two very different shows. The first one is Alien Sharks, that franchise that we have. I'd say it's actually my best alien shark show we've ever done.

Really fun takes place in our You guys remember when I was in Australia. I think I did a pod from there. Maybe it was a bonus. And then the second one is called Death Beach. Uh-oh. Guess where Death Beach takes place. Yes.

Nice. What goes on at Death Beach? Well, specifically, the show is about New Smyrna, which is the Sharkbite capital of the world. More shark bites happen in New Smyrna Beach, Florida than anywhere, everywhere else on the planet combined. Well, are they known more for sharks biting people or sharks, sharks, headbutting people. It's a little column A, column B, but there's a lot of nips. Like, shark attack is definitely the wrong word.

It's shark bite that takes place. It's good for the clickbait, though. It really, really is. Shark attacks. I thought Kyle was going to hit the jingle. There we go. What's in the news? I want to hear more about your shows, for sure.

Sure. Because I think people are intrigued by that stuff. But the top. headline on the show doc was in New Smyrna Beach. I couldn't avoid that. Oh, really? I didn't even realize that. Oh, that's why you said headbutt.

That's really, really funny. I literally didn't even notice either. Neither did I. He's always thinking like five steps ahead, bro. He's my job, man. Yeah. That's where it brings. So what is this crazy-ass headline?

Say things. Florida man. There it is. Florida man gets head butted by shark while surfing. In dramatic footage, surfer Darren K. I'm sure he's a great guy. was headbutted while surfing by a spinner shark.

He said he thought he got hit by a car. Always new sharks, a spinner shark. How many species of sharks are there? A million? Dude, I have one of the best, 10 million, that's correct. I have one of the best shots of a spinner shark that's ever been captured. Hands down, no question. And it's a pity because the show I did last year,

which I produced, I wasn't on camera for. It's called Sharks of the Dead Zone. we're filming this manatee decoy with a drone and we're waiting for these bull sharks to come and hit this manatee decoy and in the background completely randomly the spinner shark just comes up does like a full like spin 1,000 to 80 spin like an 8 spin

and hits the water and the shots all framed up perfectly and everything and I was like fuck that was so cool and I like told Discovery about it and they're like yeah but the show's not about spinner shot I'm like I know but it's so fucking cool We snuck the shot into the show, but we didn't make a meal out of it. But it was just such a cool shot, which leads me to answering your question. A spinner shark are these small requiem sharks that get their name because they will jump out of the water and spin really fast before hitting the water.

That sounds fun. What's the point? Why does spinner shark spin? Let's look that up. I think it's probably to remove parasites. I was going to, that would be the guess, right? Yeah. Hunting strategy to catch small fish.

I don't know why they spin catch small fish. They swim rapidly through school. of fish spinning on their axis, often breaching the surface to stun or disorient their prey. Ah, there you go. Get a video up, Kyle. It's such a treat to see. Let's see this guy get the headbutton. And maybe we'll get a good look at one. Okay. Even though it's a terrible video. Okay, there's one. Shot by a potato. Yeah. But that guy, the shark just came out like a flying fish. Dude, look at that guy. Ponce for a hot sec. Go back to that guy. There is no more Florida Fred Durst surfer guy than this guy right here. That is Fred Durst. Yeah. That's

That's insane. He's perfect. Yeah, he's perfect. He's exactly what I wanted. He's like 55. Yeah. Looks like Fred Durst. Kyle, do a quick Google search, Narly Charlie.

This is the guy we interviewed in our show. Look at this guy. He was a treat, man. Narley Charlie. There he is. Pro Surfer from New Smyrna Beach. That photo makes him look way too. Well, all his photos make him.

He is a good looking guy. He's got to like look on Google. Dude, he's got like the, he's like, you know, the guy was like, you know, and then I was like, Chabah, and I went, oh, dude, that was gnarly, Charlie. Why did you interview? Because he got bitten by a shark while he was surfing at New Smyrna, but he's, dude, he's a treat.

This guy was so much fun. Dude, I mean, I think I'm just going to pass on going to New Smyrna Beach and having a beach day. Right. I mean, like, I just don't need to go to the beach that badly. And get bitten by a shark. Or head by it. Because it happens literally every week there, just so you know.

Like nobody's talking about it because like little nips on the foot, couple stitches. Yeah, but it's literally. happens every single. Dude, Kyle, go on Instagram or maybe just Google search surfing with sharks New Smyrna Beach. I got to see if I can find this guy I reached out to to license some of his footage. He's got this insane Instagram account. Oh, man. You see them surfing and there's like a thousand sharks under these guys from these. Yeah, this is the guy. That's crazy. Germ Johnson. That's just one. Just click his page real quick, Kyle. So what are these? Are they their little guys? Go to that first video.

Look at this. This is just a standard surf at New Smyrna. Like, let's see if you get some of these drone shots in here. So see how the water is. So this is why this show is really cool. Look how many people are in the water. That's not a good one. Find a better one.

Look how many people are in the water surfing. They get waves in New Smyrna. Must have good waves. All these people go there for spring break. And then look how murky the water is. Yeah. So it's this confluence of things where you have all these guys. There's one video that this guy has that has thousands of,

sharks in it. That's crazy. And you have all these people out surfing and enjoying the water, and all these sharks are out hunting, but these sharks are all hunting in super low visibility. So all of a sudden, some, some Broheim on his surfboard drops in on a shark, it gets startled and bites, or the shark sees a flash of a of a pasty white Midwesterners foot coming down, you know, off of the surfboard while they're flailing around. And they, they nip people. And it's not like these sharks are like, I'm going to eat this guy. They're just sharks being sharks. Are they little sharks? A lot of them, yeah.

A lot of them are small black tips. Got it. Yeah. So this is interesting. I didn't know this about the spinner shark. It says they can jump up to 20 feet out of the water. That shot I was talking about. He goes like 15 feet up.

Two basketball hoop lengths. Yeah, it is absolutely awesome to see them do it. Do you think that started with one spinner shark? Look at it. Look at it. It's so cool. This is a shot of like 12 of them at the same time doing this breach technique where they jump out and do it.

Yeah. It's not 1080. My wife installed this like kid spinner swing on the deck where my son grabs it and then he spins really fast like that. Yeah. I get sick just watching him. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. I can't believe kids like that.

My kids are in the phase where they want the airplane, you know, where you grab the arms and spin them around. Oh, yeah. It's like insane. Dude, and you do it like 10 times. Dude, and you do two spins and feel like you can. One. For 45 minutes. They feel fine 15 seconds later.

They think it's hilarious. So clearly if it's a shark week, you go to Sharkbite Beach. There must be a mystery that you're attempting to solve that only you're the man for the job. Of course. It is Shark Week. What is the mystery? Why is New Smyrna Beach the shark bike capital of the world? There are plenty other places that have black tips. There are plenty other places that have surfers, ocean, spring break, sharks.

What is it about New Smyrna Beach that is the perfect confluence of situations and events that leads to this one specific stretch of beach, having the most shark bites of anywhere else in the world. And you could only find that out by getting really close to sharks. Of course, and diving and, you know, not doing 15 minutes of internet reading. Did it have anything to do with Viagra or cocaine in the water? No, unfortunately not. I wish that would have made a more compelling show.

But it helped you out when you were there. No, it's a good show. I team up with Tristan Guthridge, who's a renowned shark scientist, and we do all these experiments on the black tips. And then the thing that we, I won't give it away, we see one thing that's maybe never been documented in Florida before with cameras like the way we did it. And the thing that it basically results in,

and I'll give away the ending right now, is you have a gazillion people going to the beach at the same time of your, as you have these migrations of sharks that are hunting in really shallow because of their ecology, all, and this is the big X factor, while you have a ton of larger shark, eating sharks patrolling the deeper water.

So these sharks are pinned up against the beach where all these people are surfing and fishing and they're pinned up against the beach hunting and feeling defensive because of all these big predatory sharks. And then all of a sudden, you know, a pasty white foot hits one in the head or somebody is cracking a Coke can or something in the water because they're partying and it sounds like fish bones and these sharks are just nailing people. No shit. Yeah.

So if you get bitten by a black tip, let's say like five foot's an average. right? Yeah. How much damage are you taken? Let's say you're just there, you made a noise, it comes and it bites your cat. Yeah, exactly. If I could pull a show up, I'd show you because we have a bunch of pictures in the show.

But I'd say most people get between like two and 25 stitches. Oh, wow. Big difference. Yeah, well, it is because it could be one tooth that sinks in or a bunch of tooth that sink in. A bunch of tooths. A bunch of tooths.

But these black tips, they kind of like bite and let go. Like they don't grip on like, tiger shark or like remove your cough. You know what I mean? So it's, it's almost like if you just took a bunch of small knives and shoved them in. Like it's bad. It's not good. You know, really small knives. Yeah. It's not good. But they're not like grabbing and ripping or death rolling or something like that. So you don't you don't end up with like a lot of limb loss or a lot of bleeding out to death. You just end up with a lot of people with a lot of punches. Well, that's kind of I feel like why. I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's like a huge thing, but I've never like seen headlines about it too

often or not because these don't, does it get reported a lot, these shark price? Every week. Every week. No, but I mean like, you know, like, when you, when there's a shark attack, like, you'll see a headline about it. I think it makes the news when it's fatal more, like, where it comes across your desk. Yeah. You know, versus just like it happened again, like, someone got three stitches. Do you know, any idea how many, like fatalities have happened or is it very minimal? We have all those statistics in the show. I mean, there are more fatalities from Florida than everywhere else, but even Australia? I believe so, but the number of bites that are fatal on New Smyrna are very, very few. Very, very, like less than most other places in the world because it is these smaller sharks.

Cool, man. Yeah, 16 and 23. Yeah. But yeah, that's a good show. And then we have our alien sharks franchise, which is fun. But before we get into that, well, we're talking about things that bite people. What if I told you that there was just a great white shark in a lake? Have a suit.

Like to go swimming. No, I don't want that to happen. Nope. No, it's bad. One of the nice things about swimming in a lake is that you don't have to worry about a great white shark. Not anymore. Not anymore. So it's ruined.

They ruined it for everyone. Here's the other thing. This isn't the first time. This is now the third report of a white shark going into one of these lakes. Didn't someone get it on video? Because if not, it's not true. Not only is their video, there's probably the best ever video of crystal clear water with this great white shark in it. Kyle play the video. I got to see this. Okay,

where so where is that? Yeah. How insane is that? That's water that you go into. You can see the bottom. That's crazy. I know there's not a shark in here. That's like three feet of water. Now here is the good thing. I know we've just done the big, the big, the big, boogabuga scleries. That's a little baby shark. That's juvenile. That's like a probably a five foot, maybe six foot great white shark. So as big as me and probably heavier. This is in, yes, but you're not very scary. more neat. This is in Lake Conjola, I think it is, somewhere in Australia. So there's a lot of these lakes and river systems in Australia that are connected to the ocean, obviously, and they're

very tidal, very brackish. You know, the high tide comes in, pushes in a bunch of salt water, pushes in a bunch of bait fish. And these white sharks do use estuaries as, you know, they use mangroves and things as estuaries. So he's just going up into these lakes. But yeah, this is not the first time. Dude, that video is incredible, man. So he obviously came from the ocean, upper river into this little lake. Yeah. So what do they use? Huge parasite on his tail. Oh, yeah. Is that another fish? No, it's, uh, it's actually a fishing lure. Oh, is it? Oh, I thought it was a copepod. Never mind. Yeah, there you go. So he ran into, ran into a fishing lure. How do they survive? Oh, sorry. What was your question, Pat? I was just to say,

what do they use the estuaries for? Uh, for nursing. Like the, that's where the, that's where the, pups will go, the juvenile white sharks will go because it's safer. Because a shark like that out in the deep ocean is going to get nailed by another shark. Crazy out there. Do they fare well in the brackish water just as good as in the ocean? Oh, there's the lake there.

We'll see how close it is to the beach there. So it's not very far in. Where is the lake? Oh, I see right there. So, I mean, the word lake is a bit generous, isn't it? It's really more of a tidal estuary. But you know, they're coming in from the ocean and I don't

don't know as the average swimmer you'd be like yeah this is good and this is a good spot to take it yeah it's not yeah not a good what what's the scariest lake dwelling creature that i need to be scared of next brain eating amoeba amoeba so close i got it i got the last where are you swimming i'm swimming in the finger lakes in upstate new york uh well you've seen like placid haven't you the movie yeah it was a giant crocodile yeah that's in the finger lakes but like what like an alligator gar which isn't going to fuck with you? No, there's no alligator gar's up there. There's nothing up there. Yeah, there are. No, there's a spotted gar and some things like that.

Smaller gar. But there's, there's no alligator gar up there. You've got nothing to fear up there at all. Safe space. I don't want something to be scared up. All right, I'll just worry about drowning. That's fine. Dude, the brain eating amoeba. There you go. Just don't jump into hard. That's probably the scariest thing. Dude, we had a pretty big scare lately. I took the kids up to the river above Ohio. We had a great day. I think I might have talked about on one the pods. My son, my, the baby, Rudd, he's splashing in the water, you know, he's, he's not even too yet. He doesn't even have words, really. And he takes a big mouthful of water, and he looks at me. And it's, like, disgusting creek water. Like, not even, like, clear. Like,

we were in, like, a muddy pool area swimming. He takes a big mouthful, and I'm like, spit it out. And he goes, ah, the worst. And swallows it. And then we're like, fuck. So we're like, all upset. And we're like, ah, this thing you can do now. Don't worry about it. Two days later, he started just ralphing. Couldn't keep a drop of water to. down, couldn't keep any food down. Ended up in one of those like 1 a.m. trips to the, uh, trips to the hospital. And, uh, they're just like, yeah, he's just got tummy bug.

Okay. Yeah. So it was an unrelated. No amoeba in his brain. No, thank you. Oh, that's good. No tummy bug here with the light strike. It's so good.

I'm hydrating and boozing. That's right. Guys, I saw a, uh, article. I mean, I'm a lot one of you guys. I talk to you about it. You guys will have the big pizzazz. The headline. So I want you.

to introduce it. The dragon that they found. Did you guys hear about the dragon? Oh, boy. Come on, there's a dragon. They found a dragon. It's only five inches big, but it is a winged lizard.

Nobody speaks like that. Nobody says five inches big. Shut your foot. You said tooths. That's true. Like five minutes you go. Toothes. No, they measure eight to ten inches long.

Flying dragons, the real life creatures that resemble mythical legends. Got to pull a pickup of this while we talk. Well, isn't this a known thing? I've known about flying dragons. Is this some... I thought it was... This is not news.

Hey, shut your butt. I got to say. It's news to me. So this is a lizard that looks exactly like the dragon from Game of Thrones. Yes. That's right. So it's kind of news to me. It's good, though, because you obviously know about this creature, so you can tell us about it.

Yeah, these are flying lizards. I think they're from Borneo, but they're definitely Indonesian. They're not that uncommon in those terrains. In fact, friend of the... pod BTG on his animal planet show Little Giant. No, no, little Giants. Are you sure? No, that was a movie.

Yeah. Something like that, though. That show he did on little, little cool creatures. One of he, I think you shared this on the pod. One of his hardest things was finding these guys for that show because he wanted to make these little creatures, you know, so cool. Yeah. And he went to wherever they're from in Borneo and found these little dragons.

And yeah, they're incredibly cool. They're, oh, so it's Southeast Asia, not just Borneo. Tropical forest resembling mythical dragons, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, what else? It's glide up to 200 feet between trees. Yeah, you're just like, what are these tiny dragons doing? It's insane how identical to an actual dragon that these things are. So you've got to imagine these existed back in like prehistoric times, just the size of actual dragons, right?

I mean, that's the theory, isn't it? Have you seen the red-eyed crocodile skink? Look at these guys. Oh, let me take the look. guys have wings and look like a real dragon for sure. But now, Kyle, pull up a picture of a red-eyed crocodile skink. Oh, man, I love...

Look at these guys. Dude. That's a real animal that you can buy in a pet. Yeah, the head on that. Yeah, exactly. That's a dragon head. And the scales and everything, throw some wings on that, sucker, let's go. No, I was saying to Patrick on the phone the other day, dude. Like, you know, as the kind of the layman on the, well, obviously layman on the podcast,

like, you, there is never, there's an infinite amount of like new animals and interesting looking animals that you can learn about. Like you'll always discover some new crazy animal. Like yeah, this isn't news to you, but like, flying dragons, bro. Come on. Well, so here's the thing. Let me ask you this.

You look at that flying dragon, our Southeast Asian, the Draco's. That's the genus of those, by the way. Yeah. And you go, wow, they have wings. What do you actually think those wings are for, though? gliding between trees up to 200 feet Correct, but they serve a bigger purpose Like go back to the picture Correct

Ah, it's always sexual selection Yeah, it's always for banging Yeah, so is it similar to birds Where it's like the males that have the crazy colors Yeah, so right there, right there So there you can see the chin flap Like an annul has where it's putting that on display But then the males will also display out their wings

For a female, and that's why the gliding The female be on one tree 200 meters away and the male will do this elaborate courtship display, and then she'll just pop over and fly over, and they'll have a little tree hump. Ooh, the woman comes to the man in this instance? Isn't that nice? That is nice.

It's a rare tree in nature. How cool is that? It's like not only did I develop wings as a lizard to fly between trees, but I'm going to make them super bright colored. Yeah, it's like the peacock of reptiles here. Yep, pretty much. So we're like right in the middle of summer now. It's hot as been hot as fuck.

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It's really changed her life. Feeling like an outdoor mountain lion she is. She's able to hunt again. Yeah, she thinks she's mostly hunting insects. Nice. But she's what you want. She's got a real pep in her step. And as you know, I recently switched her cat food to smalls.

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summer vacations coming up that they're excited about uh i got i got i got i got one i'm going to the east coast for a little bit going to go out to block i I don't know anything about it. Really? We talked about it maybe on the podcast. What is it? Tell us. It's like an island.

Elaborate vision. I don't, I mean, I don't know that much about it other than it's fucking... I've only ever dove there. I've never stepped foot on it. So I'm going to go to my buddy, Adam and his wife,

and we're going to take all our mess of kids and stay out on Block Island. It's like very... It's off Rhode Island. Off Rhode Island, yeah. But it's very like... That looks like... Wedding Crashers.

You know, wedding crashers where they go to the, like, a state and everybody's in fucking pastels. and nobody does football like Maryland. Crab Cakes and football, that's what Maryland does or whatever. It's like that. You know, it's like those fancy little buildings, pretty beaches. You go clamming or Kohagen, eat at the ice cream parlor. Cohagen, that's a nice thing of ice cream.

Yeah. What's Coahagen? I thought that was just a town in. It's what they call clamming in Rhode Island. Oh, no shit. Yeah. Seth, uh, Big Farland, uh, using the reference to Rhode Island. That's right.

What about you, Pat? You guys looks great. Uh, yeah, I'm going. I booked a 10. I texted the forest about it. I booked a little trip leaving next week, going to San Jose del Cabo. Well, can I set up this? Can I throw you under the bus here?

Of course. Yeah. I assumed you would. He texts me and he goes, is Baja safe for kids at the moment? So I'm thinking like, oh, that's a good question. Like he's probably driving in through Tijuana, you know, heading into. Let me just say. I phrased it slightly differently.

I said, would you, because forest goes to Baja, the Baja Peninsula, which is part of Mexico, but it's attached to California. there have been a couple things recently where there have been some incidents in places that, like, I think part of Ayrta, like a bunch of tourists got shot. And like a surfer got kidnapped in Baja and murdered. Oh, wow. So I was like, Forrest, would you feel safe about taking your family to Baja at the moment?

Right. Because I know you've done that most years. That's fair. But in my brain, I immediately thought like, oh, cool, Pat must have like a job down there or something. And he's going to drive through, you know, Tijuana or Calexico or one of those. border cities, which is where the danger really is in Baja. Yeah.

And I was like, yeah, you know, it's fine. Like, don't stop in Rosarito or Tijuana. Go during the day. And you're good. And he's like, cool, cool. And I was like, well, where are you going? And he's like, I'm going to resort in Cabo. I was like, yeah.

And I'm not bringing my kids. And he's like, and I'm not bringing my kids. You're not bringing the kids. Fuck now, dude. No, it's my wife's birthday. And the grandfather was like, I'll come watch these shitty kids of yours for like three to Four days.

No, they're great. But I was like, yes, we will take advantage of that. Hey, Pat, sit at a resort. Just sorry. Well, to interrupt, I just noticed Forrest had his on. Well, I saw it sitting here. It's been sitting here for a year and seeing as it's shark week, I was like, you know what? Oh, good idea.

Where my shirt? Mine's like a choker. Mine is too. It's so caught. My niece made those. Yeah, that's right. So, yeah, Cabo coming up. I was looking at Hawaii, but I was like for three days, man, it's just too long of a travel.

Dude, what's the, this is a hot take. I'm going to upset a lot of it. of people. Hawaii sucks. Not Hawaii. Hawaii generally. It's too far. It's so far. People are like Hawaii's around the corner from California. It's not. Six hour flight. Yeah. It's too far. Then you get there. It's wildly expensive.

It's very expensive. And you're basically just in like Kentucky except on an island. Nah, dude. Compared to Kentucky is ludicrous. Bro, it's like strip malls and like average stuff. I disagree. Respectfully. The weather sucks in Hawaii. I'm sorry. If you're an ocean-loving person, this is going to get a lot of hate. I'm okay with it. I hate it. Good. The weather sucks in Hawaii. The fishing sucks in Hawaii. Like, if you go offshore in Hawaii, it's going to be rough and gnarly. It's not going to be like Bahamas blue flat chill. Like, it's not. Hawaii sucks, man. Hawaii sucks. Have you been to Kauai? No. I've only been to Hawaii once as an adult.

didn't like it. Got it. Like, yeah, because I was like looking at like Waikiki in some of those places. I was like, oh, these are like cities with skyscray. Oh, yeah. That's where I went to Waikiki. I hated it. Yeah, North Shore of Kauai is Jurassic Park. It's amazing. That's amazing. It's amazing. That's amazing. And then just hit the back arrow real quick, Kyle. Oh, it's so beautiful. Okay, hit, that's what I saw. Yeah, that's like, it's like, That looks like Miami Beach. Yeah. I was like, why did I come here?

And then I went fishing, fish for like 12 hours, caught nothing, got super seasick. I was like, this place sucks. So, Forrest, you told us about that trip you did, I believe it was, was it on the Hoover Dam? Hoover. Hoover. Yeah. Hova. No, the Blackwater Canyon.

Yeah. And that was an incredible trip you did. So are there any other places, you know, where I could go if I wanted to take a summer, summer vacation, where you would, even if you haven't been there, that would be as incredible as that. Like a secret spot like that? Yeah, like secret, visually amazing. Maybe not that crowd. Yeah.

Dude, little weekend, sorry, weekday trip to Big Sur. Oh, yeah, Big Sur. What a treat. Oh, my God. That's insane. So you hop in the car, you drive north on Highway 1 from here. You go to Big Sur. You go to Julia Pfeiffer State Park.

Here's a real, you want a real insider? Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm talking low, low key tip. Like, don't blow the. up. Salmon Creek. It's before you get to Emerald Cove and Julia Pfeiffer, it's called Salmon Creek. Salmon Creek, you park the car on the side of the one. It just looks like any other pullout. You hike up there. Beautiful, crystal clear stream. Tons of trout. The biggest bluest crawdads you've ever seen. You hike to the top. There's a secret waterfall. There's

hot springs that nobody knows about. You soak in the hot springs. You take your wife. Maybe you don't even take a bathing suit. It's one of those. Yeah. It's fantastic. Nobody knows about Salmon Creek. It's such a little hidden gem. I'm telling you, salmon creek. Pitch a tent. And then you come down when you're done.

Yeah. But no, dude, you go to Big Sur. You hang out in the Redwoods. You go this time of year. The weather's nice. The vistas are beautiful. Salmon Creek. Nobody else is there hiking it if you're there there during the week.

I've had too much light strike. It's a treat. Oh, it sounds incredible. I've never been to Big Sur and I live in Kelton. Same. That's legit bonkers. My friends go all the time. I might leave the studio.

Well, because it's like you look, it's like, it's very high end, right? So like you kind of got to camp, but then it's like, it's like hard to get camping permits. Very hard to get a camping spot. It sounds like you just kind of go pull off the road. Listen, listen. Another little secret for you. Kyle, real quick, Google search, ragged point in price per night. Oh, boy.

This is the trick. This is where you want to stay. It's a little outside of town. It's a little south. Going to Kernville. You go to the ragged point in. 140 and $150. $150.

50 bucks. Oh my God. Here's the thing, though. Pull up the picture of one of the rooms, Kyle. Kyle. Come on, Kyle. That's your view. Oh, my.

Why is this place so much cheaper than everything else? Because it's outside of town. You're not in Vickster. You're not doing the trendy thing. You're 30 minutes south, which is better because it's quieter. There's no highway noise. Great meals. Beautiful rooms.

Hikes. Just texting my wife. That's the restaurant. That's the restaurant. That's the restaurant. That's the restaurant. Ragged Point in. Not a sponsor.

Of course not. Texted my wife. Wouldn't that be a treat if they were, though? What was this drive? It's like seven hours from here. Are you high? What? Five?

From here? Yeah. It would be three and a half. Really? Dude, it's right up the road. Right up the road. It's right up the road. Come on.

Let's go. Let's see. From Thousand Oaks, what do we got, Kyle? Three hours, 39 minutes. Damn I'm good. Damn I'm good. Not to mention the last hour is fucking beautiful. Okay.

Because once you get north of Santa Barbara, you're on the coast, then you stop in Santa Maria for some barbecue. you, you swing into Cayucas, you hit the brown butter cookie company, get the best cookie or pie you've ever had in your life. Kyle, don't you laugh? I'll come over there, smack you right now and tell you what to do. Jerking it up to the table. Then you leave Cayucas, you go through the delightful little town of Cambria.

Maybe you stop, maybe you don't, that's up to you. It's very cute. You stop in San Simeon another 20 minutes later. You see the elephant seals on the beach. Lovely, cute, adorable. 15 minutes later, you get the ragged point in. Wow, that is fascinating. You've had a wonderful day before you've even checked.

Now I'm like, I should know. Just go there after this. Instead of Camba. You can, you can cancel, bro. Dude, they're both a real treat. You know how I feel about Cava?

Here's the other thing. Here's the thing, though. I hate Cabo son Lucas. San Jose Del Cove. Much better than Cappalo. The shit. But you're going to have a great trip in Mexico. Here's a little pro trip, too.

Big Sur is great in the winter. It's cold out. It's cold out. It's cold out because it's NorCal. Yeah. But you bundle up. You sit by the fire and look out at the rough ocean. You go for a walk in the redwoods when it's all steamy and cool with a jacket on.

That sounds great. It's a treat. I'm telling you. Yeah, I'm going to do that this winter. I'm going to do that for sure. I think I've had too much to drink because I'm just like, I'm just. You are very excited about going to big sir. And I'm not, I don't even have a plan to go up there.

It sounds awesome. Kyle, let's play a game. He's looking for jingle. He's feverish. That's not it. Kyle, tell me about this game. This is new. This is a new game that Edwin came up with.

It's called Respect Your Elders. Well, let me just correct you. You've already fucked up. This was submitted by a Brosner and Miles Hardeker. Oh, is that right? We all love Miles. Oh, it says it right there. Yeah.

Yeah. First sentence. Thanks, Miles. All right. So I'm going to give you two animals. You guys are going to tell me which one has been on Earth longer. Oh, that's interesting. You can maybe guess how long it's been around.

In modern form. I think that's important to have, right? In modern form. Yeah, not the ancient version. Yeah. Okay. First one, brown bear or lion? Go ahead, Peter.

I'm going to have to go, man. Geez, they're both such, like, so prominent even in, like, I feel like ancient cave paintings and shit. But I'm going to have to go with brown bear. Just, yeah, brown bear. So it says, it says in modern form. So the thing I don't know is, so I know the short face bear went extinct. during the last ice age or shortly after. So that was only like,

so I don't know if Brown Bear was a descendant of the short-paced bear or not. So I think Brown Bear might be newer, like only like 10 or 15,000 years old. So I'm going to go lion. I'll go lion, but my logic's completely different. It's because Africa is the cradle of civilization. We all crawled out of that primordial soup, basically, in Africa.

So things there haven't changed and adapted as much over-evolveolution. time, whereas the new world, like America and Europe and stuff, things have changed as they've spread there. So I'm going to go, lion is older. Okay. You go, point for Peter. Wow.

There you go. So it says, Brown Bear is older. At 1.2 million years. Damn. The lion is only 600,000. Holy cow. Just a young babe. Wow.

That's crazy. Yeah. That's crap. I don't know if I believe it. I think it's referring to the short pace. All right. Let's go. Next one is Komoto Dragon or Or

Armadillo. Armadillos just look ancient, don't they? Yeah, they do. Yeah. I mean, there is a larger version that is a dinosaur. Of both creatures. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go Komoto Dragon. It seems like an old world species. A giant venomous lizard. Seems like something's been around a long time. I'm just

going to go with my gut and go Armadillo. They do feel like they've been around a long time. I'm going pretty much just on semantics here because Komodo Dragon just feels ancient and old, like very, very old. It's because it's a dragon. Yeah, exactly.

What do we got? Point for Patrick. Yes. Armadillo is considerably older. It seems old. 36 million years. Whoa. Where? Camoto Dragon, four million. It's not even close. Do I get two points because of the age gap?

You don't. Okay. Fine. All right. Next is gorilla or kangaroo. Oh, damn. Try to logic your way through this one. I know, right? I'm none of my logic's worth thus far. I'm just going to say kangaroo.

It just seems like something that's been silly for a long time. Yeah, it's hard. I've got no reason to say either. Yeah, they're probably... I was like kangaroo too, just because they hop it and they do it. That's true. They do hop it and do it. They do hop it and do it.

I'm going to go gorilla just because I want to another point. Patrick and Forrest get a point. I don't like that double-dap. I don't like that double ding. I liked it a lot. Yeah. I get out of it. Gangaroo is older at 15 million years.

Gorilla at 7. I like when Cald DJ's games. Yeah. I don't know why. I just, I like hearing him through my headphones. It takes some of the pressure off. Yeah.

Two to one to one. That's great. That's correct. Next is blue whale or ostrich. Okay. Blue whale's an ancient form. Nothing should be that big and slow since the dinosaur has got to be the blue whale. Wow.

Okay. This is a trick question. Of course. An ostrich is just a canary with legs. Oh boy Blue whale Okay listen I'm gonna do it again But I do have logic here birds

Are descendants of dinosaurs There are hundreds of millions of years old This is true Olds And I feel like shark jellyfish And then sharks evolved first in the ocean Whales came later I'm going ostrich

Tired Oh my God You just gave him all those accolades And he's over here now Okay that air for us. Sorry, repeat your answers. Blue whale, blue whale.

Ostrich. Okay. Peter, with the correct. Yeah, baby. Single ding. Yeah. Yep. All right.

So it says modern ostriches are around 20 to 25 million years old. Wow. Modern blue whales only one and a half to two and a half. What? Wow. Where did they come from? How do they get so big?

New covers on the block. Yeah. Like what allowed them to evolve to that size. Christ almighty. Last one. Here we go. All right. Last one.

Wow. Five points. Fair. That's very fair. Very fair. All right. Crocodile or octopus. Go ahead, Peter. So, damn, I feel like octopus literally have been here before anything. Beginning of the universe, even maybe. They colonized the universe.

But I also know that crocodiles have remained unchanged for like 200 million years or something. So I have to go crocodile. It's crocodile. Well, go ahead. Well, no, okay, fine. You're saying crocodile. I was also obviously going to say crocodile, but in an effort to win this by a Hail Mary,

I'm going to go octopus. So now, I happen to know this for a fact. Oh, uh-oh. Octopus are very new. Really? Yeah, pretty sure they are. Yeah.

That would make sense to be if they came over on like a meteor, right? That's why some people think they did. Six months ago. Yeah, they're only like, like they came like a year before I was born. They've been around since. What do we got, Kyle? There's no way I'm getting winning this one. Rock.

Okay. You ready for this? Yeah. Oh my God. Is it octopus? It's not. It's not. Oh, I love it.

According to this. Why don't I get a ping? Why don't I get a dingy? Thank you. According to this. Octopus. According to chat GPD. Yeah, right.

It's about 300 million years old. What? No. And crocodiles 150 million. Okay. I also thought that oxipus were newly evolved and adapted. Give us some more information here. What is the context behind?

Yeah. behind this. It says that, yeah, they're just really, really old. That's it. I mean,

that is the game. That's fair. Sepulapods, a group that includes octopus's date back over 500 million. But earliest known octopus fossils are

around 330 million years old. Patrick's going to argue. Oh, the actual octopus? Or just like, it says modern crocs about 95 million years old during the Cretaceous period.

Yeah, no, I can't argue it. I was wrong. Yes. Wow. With five points in the very end.

Forest wins. It means I have six points. Take that. I told you on the expert here. There's something about the octopus genome that I thought it was like new. I'm with you. I feel like I've read that the octopus is a newer adaptation. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I knew that like jellyfish were one of the first ones in the ocean, basically. Dude. The comb jelly. So a couple weeks ago, I went to the L.A. pet fair. The largest pet fair in the world. Yeah. So they've got all kinds of rooms. They've got an aquatics room where I spent way too much money.

They've got a reptile room. They've got a succulents plant room. They've got mammals. They've got birds. We've got all kinds of stuff. Pet plants. Yeah. A lot of beautiful.

Like picture plants and carnivorous plants. Awesome. I love the show. I had such a good time. It's the same one that you and I went to except that was just reptiles. Yeah. Oh, same convention center. Same convention center.

It's such a shit hall. I had a great time. There's two things I want to point out about this. one is you just made me think of this another hot take here I'm going to get a lot of hate Jellyfish is the worst pet I've ever seen Oh well you can buy a jellyfish tank

It's like a circular tank It's all vanity yeah It's just nothing It's just like having Boba T as a pet Remember when your old Your old boss bought a jellyfish It was like a big thing And kept it in her office

And I don't know Did she? Yeah she probably died very quickly Oh yeah It's terrible Second We played a game what we were there?

What's the most expensive animal that we could find at the L.A. Pet Fair? Wow. I'm going to give you number two on a platter. Okay. And then I want you to guess

number one. I like it. The second most expensive animal that we could find at the L.A. Pet Fair was a zebra full for 9,500. What the hell is a zebra?

What exactly is that? What? Is that a zebra? Yes. A small? Oh, a zebra full? Yes. I thought you were saying,

we're saying the same thing. I thought you were saying a zebra full. like a fish no no it's my accent it's legal to trade zebra in California 9500 bucks you can buy them on the spot wow that was a second most expensive

thing we could find at the show 9500 for a zebra full yeah usually 13 painted usually no no this was a real one wasn't a Tijuana one usually 135 special at the show for 9500 so they didn't have to drive them back to Texas

okay okay so what was more Okay, so it's illegal. You cannot have a tiger in California. Nope, there were no tigers there. It's just tough. So something that was more expensive than this zebra full. Zebraful.

Were there reptiles there? Many. Thousands and thousands of thousands. I'm just not good at reptiles. There could be anything. I think it was a rare reptile. And I think it was some incredible, rare chameleon from Madagascar.

It's a good guess. Petter? And what was your price point? 35,000. Wow. Petter? Baby Hippo, 10.5. I wish. I would have bought it in a heartbeat. There was, it's really funny, actually. I feel bad if the guy

who was very excited, his name was Mark, that showed us this, sees this. But to me, it was the most average-looking snake. Oh, wow. Okay. You've ever seen. It was some very, very, very rare genetic morph, and I'm not into morphs. We've talked about that. You know, it was a T plus albino, this, that,

like all these fucking things. You know, the AnimalCon books talked about it, too. A lot about it, yeah. Yeah, it was this very rare genetic morph, and it basically looked like that. It looked like a corn snake, except it was a python. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, morph pythons are like huge. So he said it was one of

probably four in the entire world because it was such a crazy, rare recessive gene that they'd been able to manage to breed. And it was, what was it, Kyle? I have no idea. No, the price. Oh, $15,000. And when I say huge, I don't mean size, but like, that was about this big. Yeah. Really? Yeah. The morph ball pythons are like, isn't that big business? Oh, it's big business. There's people with every color snake you can imagine. Who was that guy we had on at AnimalCon who does, he does like crazy morphics. What's his name?

Kiri Molarano. Kiri Molarano. Yeah. Dude, talking about the process of doing it. And Kevin, too. Yeah. And what's Kevin's last name? Flumbago. Yeah. Sure. Why not? Flamagana. Capi Bara. Yeah, that's bullshit. Yeah. Because it's not natural because it's like... No, just like a 12 inch snake.

But like... But it gets huge. It was just a baby. What's the most that anyone's ever paid for a coy? Oh. Yeah. There were a coy there, but we didn't see any really expensive ones. Yeah, we've talked about this on the pod.

The most world's most expensive. Two million. Up there, yeah, I believe it was a... 1.8 million. For a coy. mind you that looks like most of the coy you see at the mall pond. I got so much

actual DM'd hate when we said this last time. People literally went out of their way from the pod when I said this looks like a Petco store coy. Yeah. People, I'm not joking. I probably had five different people literally DM me and be like, you don't know what you're fucking talking about. I was like, no, I don't. That's true. I don't. But it just looks like an average coy to me. I understand that coy.

That one's cool. Its head has a red dot on it. It looks like the Japanese flag. Yeah. So that's different. But the one that's just a fat long goldfish. All right. I'm going to admit something.

I don't like to talk about, you know, how incredibly wealthy I am. But I did indeed drop $400 on two fish. Oh, okay. That's very reasonable. Have you got pictures or videos? I don't, but I'm going to tell you more. Okay. We're going to play a game.

We're at the L.A. Pet Fair. Okay. I have a pond in my backyard that you guys know. out. I bought two fish for $400. For the pond. For the pond. The exterior pond.

Bear's going to come and have a fish dinner. Freshwater. Freshwater fish for the pond. Now, the funniest part of this was when I saw them. What are you laughing at? Nothing. I saw the fish and I turned to Kyle and I said, Kyle, I'm going to buy two of these blank.

And he goes, no, you're fucking not. Because he thought it was such a. stupid idea. Can you guess what I bought for my pond? Have I heard of? Have I heard of these? Have I heard of these? Have I heard of these? Have I talked about them? Probably. I mean, I'm sure we talked about them on the podcast before.

Give us just like a little bit more of a bit. I don't give it away. Sure. They grow to 20 feet long. That's your pond. Has your pond got? Arapima. That's a really good guess. And I thought about it because they had Arapima, but my pond's not warm enough. But no.

Oh, man. How big are they right now? Right now they're about this big. How big is your pond? It's like a thousand gallons. So like, no, like the size of half the room. Yeah, it's pretty good size pond. That's big.

That's big. They have to live in harmony with the turtles. Yeah. Okay. They're a bottom feeder. Catfish. They're the largest native freshwater fish in North America. Native, okay, because I thought maybe you're doing something weird.

It's pretty weird. I don't know. Yeah. Kyle, what did what did what, when I said, hey, Kyle, I'm going to buy. two blank. What was the blank? Sturgeon. Oh, nice. Why? Aren't those eaten fish? Dude, I bought two sturgeon for my pond. It looks like I have dinosaurs. So I got an albino

stirlette. And you Google that, albino stirlette. Oh, and one of those, a diamond back sturgeon. Pretty cool looking, honestly. But yeah, look at that guy. So I got these two dinosaur fish living in my pond now, and they're so freaking rad. Well, they scale, like, they won't get huge because the enclosure is just too small. talk to the pet, the pond people at length, they were awesome, like, family business. And they said that they'll probably get to three or four feet. So what, what, why so, why were you so shocked, Kyle? Well, at first I didn't know that they were only going to be three or four feet.

I thought he was going to have two 20 foot long fish in his backyard. Coiled around the pond. Yeah, okay. You're just swimming in a circle, like head to nose to tail. Yeah, right. Exactly. A four foot fish is still a huge fish. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Two of them. Jesus. It's like more than half the. size of me. It's crazy. You're getting fattened up and then make some savić. Yeah. But it was pretty cool. I was stoked. I've never, that's the most I've ever spent on a fish. Hang on. Not 1.8 million. Give me a second here. Okay. I think I know what you're doing. What am I doing? Did you get

a male and a female? I don't know. They're too young to tell. But regardless, I'm going to start an illegal caviar. I was thinking that you're trying to make your own caviar. I will. Yeah. Because you have fucking boogie taste. So he makes fun of me for saying, let's do lunch. You ate an entire meal of caviar the first time you met. That's true. The first time we met. That's true.

That's because it was on your dime. There was beautiful food everywhere and he's just like piling caviar on like a kid at the old country buffet getting mac and cheese. I'm glad that you remember that. That's funny. Anyway, it was cool. I'm pretty stoked having two sturgeon in the pond now. Yeah.

Did you name them? No. Oh, that's perfect for the brocners to name. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, give me two names. So I have an albino stirlette and then a diamond back. I'll pull up a picture of a diamond back sturgeon. All right.

So in the August, the first August podcast, let's go through the comments on the YouTube and the Spotify. Yeah. And we will pick the names for your sturgeon. They have to be hilarious. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What would you guys pick?

I'm kind of don't put me on the spot like that. Virgin. Kind of like sturgeon general. I go. Oh, nice. Good. Fred and, Fred and bed. Fred and Barney.

Yeah. Who the fuck is Betty? Oh, Betty. Betty Rubble. Oh, yeah. Flintstones was garbage. What? The movie?

Or the animated series? The animated series. Dude, the movie was fantastic. With Rick Moranis and John Goodman. John Goodman. Yeah, as Fred. Yeah. Yeah, I just, it's a shit cartoon.

Okay. Jetsons or Flintstones? Jets. Oh, I mean, I got to go Jetsons there. Really? When they meet, though, come on. Jetsons meet the Flintstones? Dude, I thought Flintstones was better.

I liked it. I mean, don't get me wrong. And they're running out the car and stuff. I didn't like it. Fred was so mean. Was he? Yeah. That was like the Archie Bunker.

Yeah, you like beat his wife. Openly. Good time. I think he did. I'm not racist. I'm not even kidding. Wait, Fred or Archie Bunker? I know Archie threatened to punch his wife in the face frequently.

And it got a laugh. So I got some news. What is he got? I got some news that I haven't spoken about publicly, but I've dropped the odd hint. here, hither or thither. Okay. I love breaking surprise. I got a new series coming out next week.

Oh, yeah. Dude, wait, which one is it? So I've got the two shark weeks. We talked about that. One of them's really cool. The alien on drugs, I stabbed myself with a venomous shark to see what happens. Nice.

Pretty wild. It'd hurt. But I did a limited investigative series based off of a show I did a couple years ago, off of a special on, actually, you know what? I'm not going to tell you. Cal? What channel is this on?

Oh, Discovery. Yeah, there you go. It's fun music. The one of the policeman told us there was a drug issue in this area. I know there's cooking house, two roads that way. A meth cooking house? Like an actual meth compound. What do you think happens with their stash when the cops are in it?

Everybody's flushing their stuff down the toilet. And that leads to our waterways. Huh? Ah, yeah. When animals. Tennessee are warning about potential meth gators. Meth gators. Meth gators.

Met gators. just like we can. Talked about my bear drinking the booze of my place. Yeah. Yeah. This is actually feeling pretty sketchy.

Oh. Boozy bears. Cocaine hippos. Cocaine. It used to feed them. Coca-leaves. Someone's going to die here. Oh, man.

This is great. Animals. It looks great. It really. It really does look good. It was fun. Discovery. It's a fun show.

What's with the, oh, I get, I was wondering about the graphics with all the colors. It's like supposed to be psychedelic. Yeah.

Like LSD. I think it's terrible. I told Discovery, I thought it was terrible. It doesn't, it doesn't tell you what the show is. It's just like crazy colors. But when you put it up.

Well, you know what the show is about animals on drugs. But I want to see me like running through a swamp with a, with a hippo with a line of coke on his nose chasing me. Like that I'm going. to click on. This is just a bunch of colors from the 70s. It's like peace and free love.

But you know what? Who cares? They did their art for it. Maybe it gets a bunch of clicks. But the show's fun. It's three parts. It's meth gaiters, cocaine hippos, and boozy bears. And it's a great show. This is the bearsuit guy. It's the bearsuit. Yeah, for the reenactments. Oh my God. Not one shot

made it into the series. Not one shot. You know, it's funny. It's like, there's two ways to go with that promo. And it feels like to me that they're in the middle because you could go like classic expedition danger. Right. Right. Which they kind tried to. Which they did with the music

and the sounds from you. You know, someone's going to die here. Oh shit, here it comes. But then like graphically, it looks like they would have gone the other direction. Comedy. Which would go straight comedy. Yeah. And really fun and campy. Yeah. Which is kind of like I mean, how do you feel about that? I feel like it

needs to be directed. By the way, this is totally inside TV. I'm just saying the promo itself. I love the show. The two of the show, all three episodes are very different, very standalone. Like,

the meth gaiters is about a gator rescue and actually finding a gator that's contaminated with methamphetamines and all that. This is what I was asking about. The cocaine hippos episode is where, and we talked about it,

I went down to Columbia, I worked with the government, castrated the hippos. And then the boozy bears one, I made the funniest most lighthearted camp show because it's not really like a huge problem. It's bears break into dumpsters and drink a bunch of booze. And so we did reenactments, hence the bear suit and stuff. And candidly, like,

the network hated the campy fun, lighthearted one. They wanted it all to be danger and scary and all that. So we had to rework it and reshoot some stuff and re-ed it. And it came out to be a great episode. It's not, they're all three of them are really fun, really standalone, really different. But I went very tonally, very different with each one. Like the Gator one was like a rescue show. The hippo one was like almost a historical science-y background solved the problem show because we did the whole creating the blueprint for how to solve the hippo

crisis of them booming and then the bear one was like a fun campy literally comedy hence the bearsuit actor guy and yeah they just really didn't like that tone so we had to redo it but we didn't totally redo we just had to reshoot some stuff and change the bear suit bumped them they were like well no bear suit guy for the reenactments

literally never made one frame of even a rough guy. Not even a rough guy. No, it was horrific, bro. It was so bad. It looks cool. I am going to watch that. Yeah, for sure, dude. I like it. I'm excited. I haven't had, you know, I've got this plus shark week coming up. So I've got a lot of TV. And I haven't done a TV show in like two years. Right. So it's a lot coming up in the same week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fun. I hope it does well. I think it will. What's the title again? Animals on Drugs. Very Monday, July 28. Smart. It is smart. The people, you know what it's about. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, the people who make the titles, especially for like old school TV, they, they just know that the audience, it's really different than, because I'm always pitching titles for shows that feel like what would be the Netflix tile. Yeah. But the difference is the way that you see it is completely different because with the Netflix tile, you see the key art. Correct. You're looking at a movie poster. Right, exactly. So you don't need to know. You can just have like a title like, you know.

you know, boxed. The one. Yeah, exactly. And you see this cool picture. And it's cryptic. And you're like, I'm curious because the picture is descriptive, but the words are cryptic. Yes. Yeah. Versus, you know, extinct or alive. Yeah. Animals on drugs. Right. You're like, I know what I'm getting into. You have to. Because people are seeing text. So it's weird. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah. A lot of times you end up with shitty titles, but it turns out that they were right. You know who's the worst at titles? Chachy PT, dude.

It's so awful. You guys yelled it at the same time. You can sit there and talk to it for like three hours and you will never get one good option. Yeah. You know what? And it always does a subtitle. So it's like animals on drugs. Forest quest to find several high creatures.

And you're like, nobody's titled anything that ever. Yeah. Yeah. I was trying to come up with a domain name for a little business my wife wants to get going. I was for like an hour and a half. I'm like, this is just, I can't. It's so bad. All right, Kyle's doing a chat GPT experiment here.

He's got it up on screen. He says there's a new show called Animals on Drugs about doing science on the effects of animals on drugs and how it affects the world. Give me five other title options. Look at the numbers of words. Wild high. It's just horrible. Tripped the animal experiment.

It's so bad. Altered beasts. No. Nature on a bender. That's okay. But I think that's like a weather show. Psychedelics and predators. It's so bad.

Ask it for. a title, say there's a wildlife podcast that has a new TV show coming out where the hosts go on adventures and do drugs. No, and get drunk.

And get 10, get 10 options. Where the hosts go on adventures and get drunk. And nothing but titles. Say nothing but the title, you asshole. Just want the title. Yeah. Give me 10 for good measure. Jesus. Drunken wild. I actually think drunken wild is pretty good.

Booze and beasts. This podcast set. Buzzed biologists. Wasted in the wild. The wild poor. Tipsy trails. Licker and lizards. Field notes and flask.

Chad GPT, you know what it's great at? Nothing. It's really good at giving you puns. Puns? Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing a lot of stuff in like lighthearted commercial space. Oh yeah.

You were writing some comedy puns with it, right? Yeah. Let's give it a good prompt and get us a few good puns here. Say, give me a pun that's food related but involves a cat. Oh, wow. Okay. By the way, field notes and flasks is the worst title I've ever heard in my life. There you go.

Yeah, these are good. Miao Coroni and cheese, cat sorol, whisker biscuits. Yeah, those are actually really funny. Those are pretty good. You could do some double entendre stuff with it too. Ask it to do a double entendre. Oh, boy. Meow coronian cheese.

Actually, I'm sad that I wasn't able to use that. Here's a cheeky double enchanture that's food related and cat themed. Licking the cream. What? I don't know. That's a mess. And it's on the surface. That's hellish.

And I just do that again. Yeah. So I'm excited. I'm excited for the series to come out. I'm excited for the shark weeks. It's fun. Yeah. You know, I don't know what's going on with TV and the state of television, like cable

television and things. but it's my bread and butter. It's been what I've built my whole career on and I'm stoked to be doing some more of it while we do podcasts and YouTube and books. Honestly looks great. And it's a good show. Very excited to watch it.

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Hey, name my sturgeon. Good night, everybody. Yes. Name my sturgeon. Hey, ask chat GPT for a bunch of names for Forest Sturgeon. For a pet, sturgeon. So,

Forrest Galaunte. Oh, no, too late. There's a little extra. We'll leave this in. Fish Gerald. Why? Sturgle Simpson.

Oh, that one's good. Sturgle Simpson. Genghis carp. Genghis carp. It's not a car. Swim shady. God, people are going to have a hard time beating some of these. Caviar, the destroyer.

Ah, that's too many words. All right. Good on that. Salton Battery. What? Gill and Finn? Oh, if he has two. Kevin Far.

Kevin. Yarr. Kevin Yarr. All right. Good night, everybody. That's a disaster. But I like Sturgle Simpson. Sturgel Simpson's great.

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