Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Insects Pretending to Be Wasps, Chicago Rate Hole Hoax & Eagle Flies Into Man's Car

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

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What, wah, wah. How we doing wild times? Here we go. It is chilly outside, gentlemen. A little bit chilly. I like it. A little bit chilly. I like it a lot.

It's nice. You guys, okay, if I talk this way for the whole podcast? Save your voice, yeah, do it. Okay, I'm going to talk like this for the whole podcast. Can you do introductions, please? You remind me of that clip. Have you seen that?

Where the guy, nobody talks like that, said the coffee shop. You know what I'm talking about? I don't think I've seen. it, but I don't really appreciate you. Do you really not know what I'm talking about? Kyle, find that. I don't. I really don't know. I really don't know. Oh, it's really good. Stop it. It's fucking awful. That is bad stuff. Yeah. I think some people

clicked off. They're like, shit, he's really going to do this. This is the Wild Times greatest pot ever. I haven't done intros in a few weeks. I'm not going to do one today either. Come on. Do one. Who are you? Who's he and who's that? Okay. Most important. I am Forrest Kalante, the broologist.

Joining me is the professor and the broducer. sir. Hi. That's these guys. Stop, dude. It's good.

It's good. I'm not. I'm not doing it anymore. You started. You went and then you went off. That's his real voice. That's my real voice, sir.

I don't know what you're talking about. But it's good for the keywords, bro. You got to say your name. You got to say the podcast. Come on. The keywords. Don't we write those?

No, but AI has gotten so advanced. You've already done it. Now, shut up and move on. Jesus Christ. I agree with Peter. Yeah. Okay.

Oh, man. What's going on with you, buddy? Dude, not much. Things are good. It's a quiet time of year right now. You haven't been traveling for like at least a week. I know. I know.

I'm getting very antsy. I'm going to start beating my wife. I got a question. Speaking of beating, how many times do you beat your meat when you're traveling? Like, is it every day? Twice? Depends how jet lagged I am, to be quite honest.

Yeah. Is it better when you're jet lag? No. It's worse? It takes like 30 seconds. TBD. It does only take like 30 seconds. But if I'm stuck awake in the movement,

middle of the night and there's nothing else to do. Absolutely. Sure. That's the best sleeping. More like, you know, I'm pretty tired and that doesn't sound very good right now. I'm just going to go to sleep. That happens when you get older. You're just like, Kyle was just shaking his magic mind and I thought he was doing the jerk motion.

I was like, what is he doing back there? That's literally what I saw. Magic mind is a good idea, though. I'll have one now. Do you have any trips coming up? I got to go back to India in about a week. Be there for three weeks and then I'm home for the rest of year. What are you doing? Promoting the new show?

Uh, nope. Filming it. New show, filming the next season, yeah. Really? Already is season two? Yep. Bro, what's going on?

I hear me. It's a good time of year. What can I say? Merry Christmas. What about you guys? Any news? Anything new going on? Should we get into the news news then?

Yeah. I don't think we get into animal news. All right. Kyle, give us a jangle. The reason I was, I sounded down. Yeah. I'll tell you a minute. Hold on.

I have to fly tomorrow. You hate flying. I'm going to my cousins. sweating in Philly, so I got to fly really early tomorrow, and you know, you know my routine with the airport. I do indeed. But it's like you can't really like drink before an

8 a.m. flight. Bloody Mary and Mimosas. Yeah, but you feel crappy. It's horrible. Such crap. And like I have to do stuff when I get off the plane. So five hour flight? That's about at least five hours. Well, you have pop some zanny bars, bro. I'm not going to feel any better if I do that. Dude, when he gets off the plane, he'll be dead.

Jesus. So, anyway. But I'm excited about what's in the news. Okay. What do we got going on here, fellas? We got a jingle. No, we already did it, Kyle. We did it.

You see his button, his finger hovering over the jingle. I heard the word. He was like, he's got an itchy button. What am I looking at a smoke hole of mouse? Yes. What is this? I don't know. The Chicago rat hole you're looking at here?

This is the Chicago rat hole. You're the Chicago night. Tell us. So I know. Yeah, go ahead. All I know is that there was this viral picture of a imprint in the asphalt somewhere in Chicago that looks like a rat had been impressed into the ground. It went very viral. And so everybody was talking about the Chicago rat hole. And now there's more news. Isn't that what they used to call you on the

street? I'll laugh at that, you big head. I mean, it's an exact, I think I know what happened. I think I know what happened here. All right. Let's each hypothesize. You start. Look at the photo, right? So it's this photo that literally looks like a rat fell, a lead rat fell flat. A lead rat fell from space and fell straight through the street. That is what it looks on. But if you look closely, the claw marks, like, that makes it look like paws. Yeah. Are separate.

Those were dug out separately by somebody. Oh, interesting. So you're thinking, the thing that looked like the fingers and the top there on the left part? So I think someone saw this hole when that kind of looks like a rat. Let me make it look more like a rat. Yeah. Okay.

And so what's the controversy here? Because this is new news. What is even the headline? We've only looked at the picture. Chicago's Twatooie Chicago's famous Splatatatooie

Rat hole likely isn't a rat after all A study five Oh whoa Whoa Oh wow No Kyle don't

Don't don't We gotta figure this out Let me just say Like Yeah First of all This is like Double negative

No news First of all Why was this Even news To begin with And now Second of all Why

Why does it matter That it is not a rat hole I do agree Let's find out This is not newsworthy Wait, so, okay, hold on, two things. A study was commissioned. Yes, it's good.

Good use of tax. I guess it's a beloved local attraction, I guess. I didn't even know. I've never heard of it. Like, I only saw the viral picture, and I was like, wow, that's cool. I want to point out that on this same news article on the popular reads, we have a government shutdown update. Yes.

That's how important it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's that is the sidebar news to this article. That's right. Okay. So, first of all, we're hypothesizing two things. So Peter, sorry, Patrick's hypothesis is.

that it's fake. Somebody found a hole and they expanded upon it to make it look more ratish. Yes. Petter. So what is your theory on how the hole came to be?

And then I'll give mine. And then we need to figure out before we read the article, which Kyle is desperately trying to scroll and reveal to us what it actually is. Okay. So my theory would be

as they were repairing this part of the ASVOL because I think it's only happened in 2024 January or something. They were repairing it and there was, oh, that's not a rat. was some type of vermin actually on the steamroller wheel.

Oh, that's how it happened. That's really clever. That's smart. That's way better than my theory. What's your theory? My theory was that it is a rat, and I don't know what the study's about to say, and that it was being carried by Peregrine Falcon over the city. Okay.

When it twitched too much, the Falcon dropped it from an extremely high height, and it landed in that concrete just like that. Do Perrigan Falcons frequent over Chicago? Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

They hunt the pigeons. Wowzers. Let's learn. Part two is it's not a rat. I'll go first. It's not a rat because my theory is incorrect. It is indeed somebody's high-rise pet gerbil. Oh, okay.

That's a good theory. It, in fact, belonged to Richard Gere. It hated its life so much that decided to take its own life leaping from the 200th story of the tallest building in Chicago and landing in soft concrete. I'm going to stick with mine

because mine was already taking into account that it's not a rat. But here's the most important thing. This shape, were it to be a rodent, we would surmise that the tail somehow was able to penetrate the asphalt. This is true.

I do not believe a tail would do that, I think only a human being making a somewhat rat-shaped whole look very rat-shaped would do it. Unless you're abiding by Peter's theory of the steamroller. That, you're right, into wet as fall. Yeah. All right. What's the story, Kyle?

So it's not actually a rat, as we know. It is a squirrel. What? God! No, bullshit. Dagnapp. Look at the tail. Where's the fluff?

It's not a squirrel tail. don't understand. Is this an AI enhancement of this picture where they put the animal in there? No, it's murky water. Sitting in a puddle. Oh, my goodness. It took me a minute to figure it out to figure out. I thought it was smoke. I couldn't figure out. It's murky water. I'm calling BS. This is human made.

Because the fingernails made a less deep imprint. The fingers did. Why would the tail be every bit as deep as the full skeletal? How could the fucking tail put such a forceful imprint if it fell from anywhere? How do we know this isn't a suicidal butt gerbil?

Also, who are the scientists that did this study? Show me, I need to know. That guy, that hipster scientist right there. There's just no... It's not really that guy. No, I'm trying to believe, Patrick, I'm starting to believe that you're right. That this was, this was a man-made and it's a hoax. People are putting pennies into the rat hole.

That tail just can't be that imprinted on it. Go back to the hipster standing by it. Is he really the scientist? can't be they're not allowed scientists to be like that do they oh yeah look at you is this the dad that you fought a few weeks ago dude he looks i'm not joking it might be the sad it's the same guy i mean if i go to chicago i will visit the rat hole yeah absolutely of course next time i go in fact we should make rat holes to make money dude you're right we need to do a hoax dude people fill it up with pennies for you know the next thousand years yeah we might even make a few

Broasters, I have a call to action. I want you to comment on this video. What should we do for a hoax? What should the Wild Times fellas do for a hoax? You want to imprint something in concrete or you're thinking... Well, can it be harmless? I'm not in if it's not harmless. It has to be harmless.

Okay, thank you. Like the guy who wore a Tyrannosaurus Rex feet on the beach every day. That's, dude, that's my favorite guy. You remember that? You remember talking about that? Oh, yeah. It was an older guy, right? Yeah.

Every day for like 50 years, he'd walk up and down the beach into your X feet or What a stud. They took out the slab of concrete with the rat hole. And did what with it? What? What they do? I'm assuming they put it in a museum. It must be. Wait, Kyle, scroll down quickly on the article.

What's the down low on this? So what's our resolution to this? Just that it was a squirrel and not a rat. We should probably move on. This is crazy that this is news. Probably move on. We should move on. Let's find another piece of news.

No, there has to be something. What does the very last line say? I mean, like, it can't just be that this is the, news, could it? It's literally that it wasn't made by a rat, that it was made by a squirrel. But there's no answer as to how it happened at all. No. No. Also, why

does NBC Chicago consider this so important? Well, they cover shit like this. That's like the classic like squirrel's water skiing. Yeah, true. That's where your boy that's Midwestern news at its finest. Yeah. Who's your boy who does all the fun stuff and the

UFO stuff who's on the news? Your guy. Oh, Gotti? God. Yeah. But he's He's not, he's NBC, isn't he? Yeah, but he's national. Gotcha. Yeah, he's not talking about rat halls. He's not talking about aliens. I love him.

All right. Anything you were going to say something, Kyle? Nope, that's it. All right. People had weddings there. Apparently, it's a big deal. No way. No.

That's what this article says. Google an image of the rat hole wedding. That is a lie. Now it's fake news. Oh my God. If this is real, holy shit, there's multiple pictures. Yeah. Is that a gender reveal or a wedding?

What's going on there? Right. No, I'm serious. It's pink and blue balloons. no, I believe you. They just have... This is nuts. Everything about this is insane.

Squirrel nuts? Let's get married at the rat hole. Wow. I really want to hear what the Brosner's pranks are. Kyle, that's it. I sent you something, and this was very viral a couple weeks ago. Can you pull up that video? I sent you on WhatsApp and scroll kind of...

Kyle, he sent you a video a couple weeks ago on WhatsApp. No, no. I just presented. It's in the news. Okay. You guys may have seen this, but have you seen this with the bird here? I don't write it. Turn it up.

Give it some volume there, if you can. And then just kind of scroll. A minute. It's a man making a video in his car. Keep going. Go like to a minute. Kyle, go to a fucking minute. There it is.

He ignored you because he knew it was coming. Did you see this? Yeah, you called that a swan? No, I didn't say a swan. I said a bird. But what kind of bird is that, first of all? Some kind of eagle. I don't know.

Where are you trying to touch it, buddy? Oh, I see. He's taking his car out of park or out of drive. I mean, this is wild, dude. It's pretty bizarre. Who right it through his window? That's not a great situation. No.

What are the odds that he was rolling for his terrible vlog while this happened? Oh, dude, yeah. Like, I was, it can't be set up, right? I mean, I guess it could be, but that's a living bird. Seems pretty hard to have set up. What a dummy. The odds are insane. The bird is like, what is going on?

Yeah, he's just looking at him. It's a juvenile raptor, but I cannot tell what it is. Stop reaching around the bird, dude. Just leave your car on, bro. Is it say what it is or where this happened? He just touched the bird again. I believe him. Now I want to get bit.

Oh, my God. I believe it says it's an eagle. He has done more herky jerky movements right next to the bird. No, it was pretty bad. I think he responded, like, pretty well. I would be freaking out. I don't know what to do. I'd probably roll out of the car.

I wouldn't do this. Please go get him. Please get him. So what's going on with this bird for us? Why is it so chill? I don't know. He's in the Philippines. means he's vlogging. It's a juvenile. That's why it's chill and it's in full, like, um, shock.

Okay. It's in a hundred percent in full shock. It was probably trying to learn to fly. Okay. Jumping out of its nest. And what happens is they usually glide a little bit and then fall. Okay. And then they do it again. They do it again, whatever. So he was probably gliding and glided right into this guy's open window. Good to know. Now, I'm curious, what's he recording on if this isn't set up? What is that? Do you know what I mean? What is his case? He's legit scared. He's on vacation. so he was filming his vacation on a GoPro probably Oh what happened here he got

He grabbed somebody else to come Dude look at the talons even on that small You said it's a definitely an eagle It's an eagle I don't know what kind Maybe a Philippine eagle, serpent eagle I really don't know That's what he said he said I think it's a serpent Oh he said that

So I thought he meant an actual sea serpent Oh Pretty a pretty bird Very beautiful bird Oh it is a Philippine eagle Wait Kyle because I see now I see the head flare Just Google, quickly.

This is very bizarre this whole thing. Cool. That's why I brought it up. Ah, yeah. One for Peter. Juvenile? Okay.

Please. I think that plumage. No, maybe not. Well, the first one that came up kind of looked like it. Yeah, because that's why I was saying the head flare. Try Serpent Eagle.

Maybe it's a little bit older. Never heard of a serpent eagle. Either way, the guy. Bingo. That is it. The guy was right. What a stud. I think, right?

I don't know. Go to the, there's so many. You got to see it flared out. Yeah. Not showing us pictures of it flared out. Anyway. Yeah, just weird.

Anyways, yeah. What are the odds, though? Like, you're just driving along, vlogging about your Philippine vacation. Yeah, and then all of us, huh? I think it's this one. What is it? Head shape looks kind of similar.

What is it? Juvenile crested serpent eagle. Oh, well, what we said. And do you think it's possible that the bird was injured? Yeah, for sure. Of course. Probably not badly, but, I don't know.

I just think it's... You know what's funny is these things have always happened throughout human history. Sure, we just didn't always film it. We didn't film it. We weren't always constantly running cameras on ourselves until five years ago. Yeah.

And, you know, I guarantee you... Some... Aida Hunter in the Philippines has had a serpent eagle land on his wagon before. Sure. But, you know, he didn't have an iPhone rolling on it. Sure. You know, it's like, these things have always happened throughout history, but it's like, it's now getting captured.

Can you roll back to the moment where it flies in one more time? I just thought this was wild. I just scrub it. Can you slow-mo it a little bit? I just want to see his initial reaction. Oh, man, I don't think he knew it was coming. No, he definitely didn't.

He's talking, he's talking, pulls his arm back. He handled it way better than I would have. That's what I'm saying. You would have run out of the car. He really didn't get that upset. Yeah. I would be like, with a bird with a four-foot wingspan flying through your window.

Literally just looking at him. Just looking at it. I would have crashed the car, dude. Is this a dangerous situation for it? No, no, it's not. I mean, if that was an adult one and the windows were up and you were stuck, or even if the windows weren't up, yeah, it could tallyn you and peck you and stuff. I mean, they're strong and they have, you know, it would scratch a shit out of you, you know,

like this would do a lot more damage than that squirrel that was attacking ladies. Sure. But it's not like a dangerous, yeah, still on the loose. It's not like a dangerous situation. It's just, it's a baby bird that's in shock that's sitting here staring at this guy's armpit. Yeah, wild times, bro. Yeah, Johnald hasn't called you back, has he? No, I haven't heard from him in a minute.

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I love this contest that they do. The wildlife photographer of the year, which is the Natural History Museum of London. That's right. hosts it. That's right. And I think you can actually vote, can't you? Yeah, you can.

There's a winner. There's a winner currently. Okay, so every year, towards the end of the year, the Natural History Museum of London, collates all of the best wildlife photographs that have been submitted. I don't know how that works. I don't know how you become one of the first.

photographers, I don't know. But there are some incredible, there's a comedy category, there's just the best photo category, blah, blah, blah. There's like a category for kids where you can tell the parents took the photos. Exactly, exactly, right. I just try to get in the easier. A little better. But let's run through this year's Wildlife Photographer

of the Year Awards. Let's take a lot. Let's see it. I love this segment. All right. What do we got here? There's a wee polar bear head floating in a rainy ocean, I believe. Is that what I'm seeing? That's a harbor seal. Oh, interesting. It's very far away. So this was the rising star award. Yeah, full screen that bad boy.

There's actually a full screen tab right there. Could you click on that? Thanks. That's funny. It still looks like a polar bear to me. Maybe I do need glasses. You definitely do. Quiz of Harbour seal.

Is it raining? Looks like it's raining. The water's got all the bubbles on top. That's what he said. Who said that? Forest immediately. Oh, really? But he also called it a seal of polar bear.

I did. It's fine. I don't like it. It doesn't do anything for me. I don't want to say it. I find it boring. A kid took it. So I believe the kid and not the.

parent actually took this one. Okay. Because I've taken better pictures. This is because it's the rising star award. Your asshole. Does it actually say a kid took it? Or we just assuming? Yeah, the rising star award, I imagine. It means it's a young. Yeah. All right. It's a better picture than I could take. I'll give it that. All right. I'm going to give it.

All right. Move on. Yeah. Nah. Moving on. Here we go. Now we're getting somewhere. That's where I'm looking at. Winner of plants and fungi category. So the fluorescent world of insect attracting plants taken in Borneo. Some carnivorous pitcher plants reflect UV light. Dude, those things look so cool. But that is just a frame grab from the first avatar film.

Right? Like it's pink and blue glowing in the night. So this is very set up in the sense of, I mean, I literally have these exact picture plants in my kitchen. Oh, really? We grow. Yeah. And they're awesome and they're beautiful. But this is very set up because they've put UV fluorescent lighting on them to get this,

which I'm not saying it's not incredibly. cool. It's incredibly cool, but I have a feeling this photographer has like dropped little like fluorescent button lights down the stems of these things. Wow, you think so? How else are you getting that lighting coming from the inside up, right? Right. Yeah. So when I went to the thing, yeah, to see the actual photos, each one had a plaque that described how they took it. I see. And there's tons of setup. There has to be. Like, you know, they're taking, you know, 3,000 frames a second with a crazy light strobing and shit like that. I love how the one in the background there looks like a derpy worm, like with an open mouth.

Just like, oh. Now, it does say that this is a natural occurring, you know, thing, but maybe it's just enhanced with the lights. Definitely. Yeah. It's naturally occurring as in the sense of there's lots of animals and plants and fungi that put out UV light, but you have to have special filters and lights in order to see it. Dude, what about, oh, man, that could be so cool if you, like, did the decor at a restaurant. It was all these, like a bunch of different ones at the east. rad. And then he has shined it or you had like a room like at your house where you just had these guys in

there. Yeah, that'd be sweet with a trampoline floor. Of course. And walls and a ceiling. The winner of the behavior in vertebrates category. What? That doesn't make sense. The behavior inverter. Oh, I see. So there's several behavior. This one's invertebrate. I mean, this has the coolest name of any insect. A gum leaf skeletonizer caterpillar. That's very cool. That sounds like a he-man villain. Yes, it does. It really does. It really does. Skeletonizer. What's the name of that national park? Interesting looking creature. Tronadrump?

Fronadrump? No, it's a T. Oh, Tondump. So the behavior here is that... Neither of you guys can see. I know, fine. It's wild that you both need glasses. You're the only one head on facing it.

It's not what it is. You're both closer than me. Ponderup. Torner up. It says the head gear here is made up of old head capsules, each retained with every molt. So the tower is the old head of this caterpillar. Oh my God.

And it's used to help deflect attacks from predators. That's very, very, I mean, if you're just listening, this is, this one's worth coming back and just, in watching just to see these photos because,

yeah, it's hard to describe how cool they are. Very cool. It's a caterpillar with four smaller heads growing out of its giant head. The second head looks like it's got a different, uh, head of hair with like a middle.

Yeah, he's got like the mo cut from three stoogers. Yeah, it's really interesting. It's really cool. So as they malt, they retain the shed of their old head in order to... Of their head, capsule. Capsule.

In order to deter predators from attacking them from above. Nature is fucking. I love the way British people pronounce capsule. Because we call it a capsule. They say capsule. Capsule. Capsule. It just makes them sound classy. Schedule.

Yeah, but schedule doesn't. Schedule's like, I'm going to smack you. Yeah, it's pretty ugly. Capsule and schedule open-handed smack. The winner of the wetlands, the bigger picture category. Yeah, it's really, I mean, it is really boring. What is it? Green gas.

It's algae. Okay. Some kind of algal bloom. I've never seen less. Pat wants to skip. No, it is boring. This is cool. The winner of the photojournalism category.

So there's got to be a good story behind this. Yeah, groundbreaking science attempts to save the northern white rhino from extinction through in vitro fertilization. Wow. So this is like a picture of a, what is it? Southern white rhino fetus. I just said that. Yeah, you did.

I'm a dummy. Yep. A Southern white rhido fetus. Close. What's a rhido? What's a penis? What's a penis? What is it?

Three inches long this thing? A rhido penis? It's tiny. Yeah. It's a penis of a fetus. So there's this tiny fetus of a southern white rhino. I mean, for those that don't know that they've been trying to save the southern white rhino from the last two individuals forever. Two males, right?

Two females. Two females. And what they've, if I'm not mistaken, I haven't got to the bottom yet, but they used, uh, north. Sorry, they've been trying to save the northern white rhino by doing in vitro into the southern white rhino, of which there are plenty left. So that is one of the fetuses that didn't take. Wow. Oh, it didn't. I wouldn't if it was sitting out like that.

Yeah. And that bio rescue, which you see written onto the plastic there, they're the organization that's working so tirelessly to try and save this species. Incredible. But that photo I find very, like even I get a little goose bumpy. Like, that's a moving photo. Yeah. this fetus of something that there's only two left of in the world. And science is working so hard to try and save.

And it's smaller than a pair of tweezers. Yeah. Yeah. That's a very, emotion evoking photo, I think. Good pick. Good pick for the photojournalism category. I was hoping that Forrest would start crying for the first time in his life.

No, close. So close. Yeah. Oh, that's sick. Just a beautiful picture. The bigger picture category. It's the one of the crochet-looking category. It was crazy.

on the ship are really fishing vessel at night in northern Norway and what is he doing how's how is what's going on just chaotic it's the constant conflict between fishermen and birds yeah so this is what this is is these big nets pull up huge amounts of small fish like sardines and anchovies yeah and i've seen this firsthand the seagulls go crazy right because as they pull up tons are dead and tons die and they float around, the seagulls come and go nuts. Okay. I've never seen it at night like this before, but that's what's going on. And the seagulls are all conditioned to go to the fishing boats because they know the fishing

boats are going to put out all these dead fish that they can eat. Sure. So that's what this sort of conflict in this image is showing. But the way it's captured is incredible. Yeah. Very cool picture. It's almost like they, you know, moths to light, except it's birds to this giant light on a fishing boat. Yeah.

Very cool. Wherever, yeah. They know what they're doing. Yeah. Oh boy, what's this? It looks like an eye. Eye of the tundra. A Russian northern tundra.

I get it. It's a pond that has a nice symmetrical bit of green growth around it that looks like an eye. I think it's a complete snooze. How many zes do you want me to put in my fucking... I don't get it. I get what the photo is, but I'm shocked. It's just a drone shot. What if that was God's actual eye, though, guys?

It's still boring. Okay. Moving on. All right, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, this is very cool. Is that an ant eater? Yeah, so it's a giant Tamandu, a South American ant eater. This is another photojournalism.

Yeah. Maybe we just like journalism more than photos. So it's an orphaned giant ant eater pup following its human caregiver after an evening feeding at a rehab center in Brazil. Oh, it's amazing. So. Love it. Looks so much like a Muppet. Yeah, it really, really does.

I'm curious, though, like this has this distortion effect going. on. Yeah. Or motion blur. Yeah. But is that done intentionally by the photographer? It must be.

It definitely seems like an intentional choice. That or there's just not enough light to compensate for. But the anteater itself doesn't have, oh, so maybe he wasn't moving as much. He'd see its face,

but yeah. Right. So it's just less because it's not moving as fast. I just wonder if the photo would be as well revered and recognized if it was a perfectly in focus photo.

Right. That's interesting. Or if there's something about the motion blur that's making it like strikingly. Well, if anyone listening knows the photographer Fernando Fasciole, ask him and let us know. But the baby anteater, very cute. Yeah. What else we got?

Are there hundreds more of these? I don't want to make people listen to all of these. Let's only do a couple more. Okay. Let's keep going. A few more. Yeah, just scroll to the ones that strike. That's right here for us.

That's a swell shark. Next. Oh, I like it. That's cool. What have got here? A carcicle eating a flamingo. I'll get into the mammals here. This is the behavior

Mammals category. Yeah, that's right. Very beautiful. Tanzania. Yeah, that's cool. Caracol out on the wetlands hunting flamingo. Look at the flamingo's eye and face.

It looks so evil in a way. Just covered in blood. The blood just all went into the eye socket there. Do the caracles have a tuft of hair to make it look like they have horns, do you think? There is a reason for that tuft of hair off the ears. I don't remember. I read this not that long ago.

Ask evolution. Yeah. That would be a better name for. for AI. Instead of chat GPT, it should just be called evolution. Yeah. Or ask evolution.

Yeah, that's cool. For communication. Oh, interesting. So how do they communicate with those? They twitch it around. Yeah. Okay.

Blamp it and do it. Similar to how a dog might use its tail. Okay. All right, moving on. Let's keep going. Do two more. Next.

That's just a kneel. But just keep scrolling until like there's one amazing one. That's pretty cool. Is that a hyena? What is it? This was the overall winner for 2025. That's my favorite. Interesting.

I had to print one and put it on my wall. It's that. Yeah, the colors of it are pretty spectacular. Describe what you see here. So there's a brown hyena standing in front of an old building. Yeah, an abandoned building of some kind. What does it say? Oh, even cooler than that.

It's a long abandoned diamond mine in Namibia. That's cool. It almost doesn't even look like a picture. It looks like a painting almost. And the light coming off of the mine is interesting. Is that from the flash reflected on that? front edge. It's a good question. It's hard to say. I mean, obviously, that's taken it with like a crazy ISO, right? Yeah. It's all like sepia tones. But yeah, this won the urban wildlife category

and overall winner. It's pretty awesome. I mean, I, there's a clip of me in one of my shows once when we got a brown hyena on trail camera. And I was freaking out because they're the rarest of all the hyenas. They're hard to get, never see them, you know, and just getting one on trail camera for me was awesome. Where were you? Where was that? In Southern Zosven. Zimbabwe. Which show were you doing? Extincter Live Cape Lion. Oh, really?

Yeah. It's in the show. Is that the one where you smuggled out the Cape Lion blood and turned into Lion? That's right. That's right. That's how I got such a broad head. In my rectum. Yeah, perfect.

Yeah, we've talked about this many times. Lion Man. Well, that's a good overall winner. I like it. I think it's my favorite too. Yeah. Just give a quick scroll through everything, Kyle. I want to see if it's just go.

Keep going. Keep going. Faster, faster. Oh, there's that one. I really liked that picture. Yeah, the rattlesnake with the moon behind. That's beautiful. Very cool.

That's whatever. That's a bug of some sort. Okay, this is probably boring for gross owners. Exactly. Sorry, guys. You forgot that we were recording. I was being selfish. So I have a challenge for you guys.

One of our favorite new segments is the detour destination brought to you by Toyota. You're going to fly to an airport. You're going to pick up a Toyota truck. Okay. You're going to head from that airport somewhere within a two-hour drive to take a photo to submit to the world. the World Wildlife Awards or whatever that thing was called that we just did. Okay. What is your, where are you flying?

What car are you picking up? Where are you going? What are you looking for? I am going to fly into Bozeman. Mm-hmm. I'm going to pick up my Toyota truck. The Montana. Yeah.

Yeah. Just making sure. Yeah. And then I'm going to, I'm going to drive into Yellowstone National Park. Oh, nice. I'm going to have, I'm going to be all set up for full night photography. Okay. Very cool.

And I want to capture the moment. I'm going to set up. I'm going to find a porcupine up in a tree. It's going to take me a few days. Yeah, that's fine. I'll have an advice adventure. I'll use my thermal goggles. I'll wait to find a porcupine at night that's sleeping up in a tree.

And I'm just going to sit and wait. And I'll be ready. I'll have the quick flash and all that ready. And I want to capture the moment of impact when a great horned owl flies into the porcupine and knocks it out of the tree. Wow. That's great. That would win. So, yeah, I'll get the moment of impact.

I might get, like, the porcupine after it's just flown like a foot from the limb. Quills in the air, look like the rat about to hit the concrete. Yeah, I'll backlit by the moon. That's crazy. Harvest, do it when there's a harvest moon. Sure. I will. I will.

I don't do it. And I'll probably spend, like, five, six days out there by myself. I'm just going to camp. You're going to sleep? Are you going to convert the bed of the truck into, like, a camper and sleep in there? Absolutely. Yeah. I like to love to do that.

I like that a lot. And I, you know what? All to win a pointless award that you get nothing for. I think you might get some cash or some accolades. Yeah. Okay. I like it. So mine is, uh, mine's quite simple, actually.

Simple but challenging. I'm going to fly into Oakland, California, believe it or not. I would just drive. Yeah, but I'm not. Yeah, maybe I'll drive. All right, fine. I'll take my own Toyota truck. Yeah.

And I will drive to Oakland, California, specifically Berkeley. Okay. To Tilden Park. Tilden Park, if you haven't been, it's very weird juxtaposition because you have all these uptight San Franciscoites power walking around in their north face gear.

But in the center of Tilden Park is a beautiful wetland that has a massively dense population of California rough-skinned newt. And the shot that I am envisioning is once or twice a year these nudes get into breeding balls. Oh, yeah.

You find a picture of the breeding ball of the rough-skinned nude. and all these newts come into this orgy, a breeding ball. And Tilden's the only place I've ever seen where the newts are in very, very clear water. So I would have a split shot, big camera dome. I'd need my Toyota truck to pull all that camera gear up there.

Not that I know how to do any of it, but have the big lights, have the split shot and be able to see, you inspired this, by the way, Peter, the city of Berkeley behind. Nice. Oh, wow. So your camera's half in, half up. That's right, the split shot.

Yeah, that's what I meant by that, which I don't know what I'm talking about. I wasn't listening to that part. That's okay. So you'd see the city of Oakland in the background and underneath new life taking shape with these breeding balls. I love that. That's a beautiful photo. Yeah.

Yeah. So Mark Romanov went up to film the Yosemite show I did last year and he got a bunch of the, I can't remember what type of newt lives up there, but he got some amazing underwater footage of the breeding balls. Oh, cool. It's what? It's amazing, right? Yeah. How many of these newts get together in a breeding balls? Is it like three or four or like 20?

More than that. Yeah, like see the, yeah, like that. Oh, okay. So maybe that's, yeah, 15. Yeah, something like that. But imagine that with a city scape in the background above the water. I think that would be such a weird juxtaposition of nature and life and rebirth and everything else. Definitely.

So that's my shot. Oh, I wanted to show you this because somebody sent me this one on Instagram. I thought this was really cool. I've never seen this before. Okay. I don't know what we're looking at. Let's get into it. Just play it without sound.

For a second here, Kyle. What do you see? I see a wasp on the hood of a car, I think. Yeah. Looks very much like a wasp, doesn't it? Definitely. Okay. It's good.

Now, the camera has zoomed in on this obvious wasp on the hood of a vehicle. Now you're making me second guess myself. Still looks like a wasp on the hood of a car. I think it's a trash can. Oh, it's a trash can? It's on the hood of something that's got a lot of scratches. Okay, now it's zoomed way in. Still a wasp.

What am I missing here? Hang on. Wait a, wait. Now look. Look at its arms. Oh, what the hell? Yeah. Wait, what is it?

It's a praying mantis pretending to be a wasp. I see the manted arms. There they are now, right? Now they came out. Holy crap. Yeah. That's real? I mean, it must be real.

Well, someone said it's actually a mantis fly, so I don't know if that's true. Look it up, Kyle. I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it was sent to me under the pretext of a praying mantis pretending to be. It's something pretending to be a wasp. It's not a wasp. Interesting. So it is this mantis fly. I mean, based on that picture right there. Yeah, look at these guys. So I didn't even know this is a category of bug that existed. No, I didn't either. So there are a whole group of flying mantids. Yeah. Wow. And one that just fully mimics the type of wasp that stings the crap out of you.

I wouldn't go near that thing. No. By the way, I have a pretty good wasp story from two, three weeks ago. Okay, real quick. Yeah, no, go ahead. How tall is the tallest polar bear if it stood up on hind legs, nine feet? No, no, like 14 or something. They're really tall. Really? Yeah, look up the tallest polar bear, Kyle. So, yeah, because they usually measure it to the hump, but let's see.

Oh, I was. Yeah, but no, if it stood up, if it stood up, what do we go? 12 foot 9 inches. Okay, so 12.5 foot polar bear versus a 12 and a half foot tall and scaled up weight and everything, praying mantis. Oh, praying mantis for sure. Not even close. Really? Think about a 12-foot-tall scaled-up praying mantis.

They're covered in armor. You couldn't get through it. The bear claws probably wouldn't do anything. Maybe if it got its jaws around it, it could crack it. Right. But like, think at that scale, it's big, think of a crab. Think how hard a crab's shell is to crack. But at 12-foot-tall, it's like as thick as this table.

Sure. You know what I mean? So maybe, maybe the polar bear could crunch through it with its mouth, but the claws aren't going to do anything. And one strike from those Sith's of arms. It's going to chop the head off that pole. I'm pretty sure a 12 foot tall praying mantis would take over the earth. Yeah, I can't think of much that would beat it.

I really cannot. I mean, it would be awesome if like aliens came and landed and like they could just take whatever form. They wanted to freak us out. Yeah, yeah. They just came out as 12 foot tall praying manti. Dude, you know that mantis is one of like the, you know, more, well, you know, we can't say it's real, but like, you know how they have grays,

which is the very common alien. Sure, sure. Mantis type alien is like in the top five there. They have like reptilian, mantis, the gray type, the Nordics. Yeah, why not? But anyways, tis the season. So this is, this is what you're saying is potentially a reality, Patrick. Well, I would love it.

They would eat all of your candy corn. Dude, I got to, you want some corn. Yeah, take some. Dude, uh, fucking Starship Troopers. One of the best movies. Oh, yeah. So good. So good.

You don't remember Starship Troopers? You gave me a funny look. No, I don't remember praying Mantis like. No, they don't have Prang Mantis ones The whole movie is about fighting giant invading bugs. Oh. And there's like giant bombardier beetles that shoot acid. There are small scurrying mantids that are like maybe five feet tall.

Take a look. We're lucky that insects can't just, they physically cannot get that big. 100%. Sergeant Rico, look right there, five over. Yeah, you're right. It's like the main bad guy. Look at that big boy. Sergeant Rico.

Dude, Sergeant Rico with his weird NFL football game. the beginning doing double flips. I might have to watch this. Is this a good movie? Oh, it's so good. Is Tim Allen in this? No. No. Okay. Tomorrow is not in this. But very young um, uh, who is he's right there? Neil, what's his name? Waters. Patrick Harris.

Neil Patrick Harris is in this. Very young. Imagine if it. Neil Waters. Kyle, have you ever seen this movie? Never seen it. Dude. It's a good, it's a good watch. Please watch it. Please. I'm begging you. It's so. such a good movie. I got a question. Uh-huh.

What? So, all right, might be dumb, but a... Always a good start. Why are, uh, why is it that a shrimp is full of, like, meaty deliciousness, but yet an equivalent insect, like, for example, a praying mantis or like a cockroach is not full of meaty goodness. What is it? Why?

Why can't we have the meaty goodness and insects? Well, one, I think it depends who you ask. I mean, you go to Thailand and they serve bugs everywhere. Right, but it's not flesh. It's not flesh, it's not needy. It's like a goopy juice or some shit inside of insects. Well, I guess, yeah, I mean, that's good question.

Well, I don't know. I mean, they're different, right? Obviously. Like a different, entirely different lineage of evolution, basically. Yeah, well, you know, crabs and shrimp and those things are all crustaceans versus insects.

Yeah. Like, it's a completely different group. They have very different circulatory systems. Sure. Yeah. So like, yeah, insects store, I'm just trying to figure it out because it's, I guarantee a third of people listening right now, no, and think we're idiots for not knowing. But they insects store all their gut, all their blood in their gut. And then, you know, it pumps out and comes back in.

Yeah, right? Versus like us, and I'm assuming a crustacean, your blood is mostly running through your body at all times. What do you guys think? Stored in your gut. Maybe that keeps them from, like, developing muscle tissue? Well, the muscles, you know, if you think of the crustaceans that we love to eat, like lobster and crab and stuff, they have big giant chunky muscles. Like the lobster's whole tail is a big muscle. Sure.

And crab have these big claws that are all full of muscle for grabbing things to eat. Can you look it up Kyle? Why don't insects have muscle? What do you think Kyle's doing as we debate this? He's just over there staring in a space. Send up the next game. Oh, there you go. What is it here?

What do we got going on here? What did it say a second ago? They have muscles. No, it's not why don't insects have muscles. not the question. The question is why doesn't praying mantis tastes like shrimp when dipped in cocktails sauce?

Why aren't insects meaty when shrimp are? Put that in there and see what AI says. It's going to be confused. It might just shut down. Yeah. Might just be like that you have one. This is not the first time this has been Googled by the way. What does it say? Insects? Read it aloud, Kyle. I can't read it. It's nonsense. All right. Let me get some more

candy corn. Sure. All right, what do you got, Kyle? Let's go, Kyle. Let's get a game. All right, we're doing the beast. Jingle, jingle, jingle, jingle. You can go.

The beastly buzzwords quiz. How's it work? There's a word on screen here that is hard to interpret, interpret, interpret, and hard to say for you. Both of them. And I'm going to read it to you guys. You guys are going to tell me what this is in the animal kingdom. Is this a type of animal? Is this a behavior?

is this something scientific. Love it. All right. What is it? All right. Start. What's your first one? First one is Emplexus.

I always feel so dumb doing this game. What does Emplexus mean? Well, in all fairness, we did make Kyle delete the seven that we knew. Yeah, that's true. But nobody knows that. That's behind the scenes. That you guys. Yeah, there is seven that we knew.

Okay. Amplexus. Real quick, Peter, do you know any of the ones that he highlighted that we deleted from the game? Yes. Name one. Mustilid. Nice. Yeah.

Good. And you know, undulate. Okay, I'm going to go, I'm going to go bone. I'm sure I do, but I don't remember. Just kidding.

Remember dinosaur a bone? I'm going to go bone in the neck. For Mplexus? Yeah, for Mplexus. I'm going to cross over to a different game. Wrong game, but. All right.

Amplexus is, uh, Jesus, there's like no etymology to this. Yeah. Um, you. Never mind.

Continue. All right. Great clue. What the hell does that mean? No, that was a clue. He laughed and he said, he snickered, yeah. This is something that you would like to see

and you expressed that recently. Me? Yes. This is when... That's a clue that helps everybody. This is the behavior of a rhinoceros sucking another rhinoceros's dick.

Why not make it horn? Well, that's exactly what he was talking about earlier was the rhinos stuff sucking dick. He did say that over lunch. Yeah. I did? Mm-hmm. So this is what that is.

You were hammered. That's my answer. All right. And Plexus is, undeniably the act of a shit come on out with it it's cross

species attempted mating okay I think it's when I have no idea when the male animal in a mating situation has too much too much sperm so to speak

and so it puts out all just the extra into the water I have a reason I'm saying that. Peter, you put us all on a sex direction. I just, what is your reason, Pat? Yeah. Plexus feels like that has something to do with mating and then ample.

Yeah, extra. Too much. Extra mating. Yeah. Okay. Rinosaurus blow job. Yep. Kyle.

What is it? Give us that lovely ding. Half points for Patrick and Forrest. Wow. It is, it does it do with mating. Okay. Well, he said, I don't get a fucking Follin. That doesn't help you.

that does not help you procreate. The definition here is mating, embrace, and amphibians. Oh, wow. That's funny. I almost said breeding ball from earlier. I swear to God, when you said it's something you said you want to see. And I was like, I wonder if he's talking about a breeding ball. And I was like, nah, that's not it.

Never second guess yourself. So it's just the embrace of amphibians hanging on to each other while the whatever stuff happens. Things happen. Okay. All right. I'll take my non-half point. Well, you know what's annoying is had I said, said when setting up my dream photo, I would love to capture the

amplexus of the newts. People would have crashed their cars, changed the channel, ripped out their earbuds. Yeah. Mid-coitus, the amplexus of the newt kingdom. Yeah, but guess what? Now you should use it. Yeah.

You guys remember when we first started the podcast and we were like very, well, drunk? Well, yeah, absolutely. Go listen to episode one if you want to hear us hammered and ridiculous. It took us eight hours. It literally did. Eight hours we went hunting in the middle. We did.

For a 45 minute episode. But it was just so funny because I know you were very adamant. I was just like coming along. I'm the tech guy, whatever. I'm going to sit here and shoot the shit. You know, me and you had done a podcast. Give it a little color. But you were very adamant that we are not going to use big words on this.

But like it will not be science-y, like scientific at all. Like the educational value must be entertaining. And it's funny because like we need. never, we really don't ever get into like the real terms of anything except in this game. Well, because the problem is people, I could go on a whole tangent here, but wildlife science has become so gate kept by stuffy British overly educated people. It has. I'm sorry. And it's like, oh, you have to have a stuffy, you have to have a British accent in order to listen to somebody to learn about animals. Animals are for everybody. Yeah. Man, you don't have to fucking pick up a

to try and learn about animals. You shouldn't have to. By the way, what we're doing right now will teach you long words if that's what you want and you want to retain that information. I agree. But it doesn't need to be that.

Like, just enjoy animals like we do. Like, we just sit here and bullshit about it. Dude, I learned. And then talk about fucking being a dad for the other half. If you described a breeding ball as a mass and plexus, no one would know what the fuck you were talking about. In and out of the brain.

That's right. And it's irritating. Yeah. Anyway, have a point. Have points. For me. Next is.

I get a full point. Clecto tricky. Clepto tricky. I will go first. Why did you adopt an accent? He goes, clepto tricky. Clepto tricky. I go first because as we all probably know, this involves the behavior of stealing.

Of thievery. Yeah, this is when one animal I'm going to say steals another animal's young or eggs. That's a great guess. Yeah, it is. And just to not say the same thing as, you. I'll say it's when an animal steals another animal's food stores. Nice. All right.

We've got young and food. I'm going to say stealing. Tricky, tricky, tricky. There is an etymology to that, but I don't know what it is. We don't have time. Nope. Plecto tricky is going to be stealing. What else is there?

Nest? Yeah, that's like pari. Sure, sure. The home, the borough of another animal. Interesting. specifically. Half points for the stealing part. Forrest did get pretty close with the help of Patrick. It's stealing hair from other animals for nesting. Oh my God. That's ridiculous. That is insane. That's like is that that should be featured on my strange addiction. How many animals do this?

The two examples that Edwin gave are sloths and monkeys. And power birds. Really? Powerbirds do it too. Bowerbirds put everything in their nest. Yeah, but they'll go steal fur and hair. Really? For sure, yeah. So Sloth's just like, just take a handful of someone else's fur and then go stick it in their nest. Slowly make a getaway. I like it.

That's a good behavior. Yep, it is. Yeah. That's one you should retain. I think human should do it. Yeah. Uffaji. I have a whole shed in my backyard that's made of your hair.

Oh, I'm so proud of you. Well, and me. Go ahead. Go ahead. Next one is Ufiji. Oofiji. Oofagy. No faggy.

Fagy. Fagy. Fagy. Fagy. I feel like I know what Fagy means. Yeah, it's in a lot of words. You got to think of another one that has Fagy. Faggy.

Faggy. Isn't that a type of, like, really bad tasting Greek yogurt? Yeah. Faggy. Yeah. I'll go first. I'll go first.

Ufiji is when an animal mimics another animal through sound. Interesting. Did you get there because monkeys go, uh,

maybe I did, maybe I didn't, you know? Uh, Ufiji. I'm fully guessing here. Yeah. Uh,

this is when, when an animal makes itself look, makes its face look like another animal's face by facial expressions, such as when a dog communicates with a human.

Interesting. Well, like that. That's clever. That is clever. Uh, But not clever enough. I'm going,

Ufiji. Better than U-U-U-U-U-U-O-O-O-F-G. Oof-G. Ufiji is when an animal falls from a height and hits the ground and it goes, Oof. Peter, I, like, wanted to give you some props for something, and that wasn't it.

If that's true, I'm not, you can't get me to go back on this, I'll destroy the studio. How about giving me a million dollars if it's true? That's better for me. All right, let's hear it. Hard and damn. Not even a mid-pointer. This was all wrong.

It's Uphi-G is eating eggs sometimes within the womb. Oh. How do you eat eggs in the womb? What's funny is the very next word that we canceled, or the very next three oviviparous, oviparous, and viviparous. Yeah. Are all related to that. Interesting. Yeah.

So, do you understand this? Can you explain this better to me? Why are there eggs in the womb? Yeah. So when something is Ovoviviparous, which is one of the words we canceled because I knew what it meant. Yeah. What it means is like say two snakes or two lizards reproduce, they mate. Yeah.

And then the mother will actually develop eggs in the womb before laying them. Okay. So then, and we won't get into the minutia of all this, they can either lay the eggs. The eggs can develop out in nature or they can retain the eggs and they can fully develop in the mother and they can give live birth. Oh, wow. Yeah. So Uphagi, if I'm understanding it correctly. is when you said it's when an egg is consumed in the womb by a sibling, is that right?

Eating eggs sometimes within the womb. So, yeah, it's weird because those are two very different things. So it's like, yeah, one maybe was live birth. Exactly. Next to a bunch of eggs and it goes, oh, let me shout out. Exactly. And it needs nutrients by eating the others. And that's relatively common, by the way, where there can be like five or six or more

offspring and then only a couple survive and they eat the rest within the womb. You age your brother. That's a good way for evolution to both. both like let the stronger one win and give them like a nice meal. Yeah. And then the other one's just out. Straight up. A lot of birds do that.

Like they'll have a like they might hatch like three. Like some bigger birds I know do this because I've seen it. Yeah. And the whatever the weak link is, the mom will let the other two eat it. Oh yeah. Yeah, I've heard that. Which would have been you. Well, thanks.

Actually, I was the more physically aggressive one. So I'm sure. I might not be the smartest one. Let's do one more. do one more. Kyle, you pick from the remaining list. This one's worth five points. Okay.

All right. Thanataphagy. Thanatophagy. And I already forgot what Uffi. Yeah, what was Faghi a second ago? Yeah. I was eating the egg. Yep.

So Fagy is. Fanatow. So it's the bad guy from the Marvel movie. All right. Based on Ufagi, I'm going to say that thanatophagi is, When an animal parasitizes another, no, that wouldn't make sense. Yes, it would. It parasitizes another animal to lay its or carry its eggs.

I think this is when an animal consumes the emitted body heat of another animal. Ow! It's interesting. By warming up. Oh, not eating me. No, you can't eat it. I don't eat heat. No, like, you know.

So you're going with phageas meaning eating. Eating and you're going with phagias meaning eggs. That's right. Huh. Damn it. No. Ooh means eggs. Okay.

Because Ovo. That's probably true. All right. So we're going something eating or, yeah. So eating. All right. So I'll just say it. It's when one animal.

That's good. When one animal is hungry. Good start. It will quite simply go find food and eat it. Okay. That is something. It's just this is. This is just the fancy British word for eating.

Five points to eat. Patrick, could you explain yours again? Because I don't really understand. I'm just saying when one animal uses another animal's body heat that's being admitted to warm itself. I see. Okay. Interesting. In that case.

I thought I was going to hear the... It means you were on the right track and he wanted you to say something else. Kyle, before you give the answer, why don't you explain why you thought he was on the right track? Well, because... I'll say it first. So the answer to thanataphagy is eating the dead of their own kind. Okay. And the reason I was asking for clarification is because at some point I thought you were saying you're eating the dead person or the dead like animal to gain something.

Interesting. You're giving me credit that I didn't deserve. Yeah. Okay. All right. I was pretty close, guys. You got to admit. I did get in like the general...

Eating. Yeah, eating. So that word was there. Just real quick. One of these was pseudo copulation. Just tell me what it means quickly. Sootocopulation. Wait, can I guess just quickly?

Yeah, yeah. It means fake humpin. Well, yeah, of course. Fake humpin. We should do on that one. But like who does the... I want to know who fake-humps. What animal?

It says, the word Edwin uses pollination via fake mating with insects. Orchids and wasps. Orchids and wasps? Oh, I know what that, what he means.

What he means is there are certain bees and wasps and things, or rather there are certain orchids that mimic a bee so that the bee comes down to mate with it and then goes, wait a minute, that's not a bee. That's pretty cool. Genius.

Yeah, that's amazing. So the orchid is smarter than us. That's right. I really have been into lately animals that fool other animals by being, by looking like other things. Oh, and I know, do you know the term for that? There's a good term for that. Tell me. Do you know it?

I don't. Apo. Wait, is that aposomatism? Amatism? No, biomimicry. No, it is biomimicry. It is biomimicry. But aposomatism is when you have a bright color to tell other animals that you're venomous.

Gotcha. Or poisonous or whatever. I've seen and you, I don't know if you can pull it up or if we got to stop or whatever, but there are, there's this one animal I saw. It's a, I can't remember if it's like a worm that, or a caterpillar that turns itself into a slug, like a snail. Yeah, yeah. That's biomimicry. And it's crazy. If you look at it, it has eyes and an antenna, but they're on the butt.

So I think it's the one over down in the second row All the way to the right. But it's just crazy. So I've been... That's a slug? That's not it. There's one that really looks like a slug and it's a caterpillar.

But anyways, my point was I just... I'm always learning something new about animals. And this is like, I've just been obsessed with looking at pictures of these things. Like, look at that one on the right there. That thing, like looking like a fish or whatever. Right there. You should register the domain name,

tricky animals. Bro, look at it. It looks like it has giant eyes. in a big face and like a smell. That's great. It's just crazy, bro. Very, very cool. Do the thing.

Yeah. You know, these are all animal facts that we like learning and sharing because we don't know them all. We made a whole game where you can learn and share animal facts. There is.

The Battle Royale game. It's great fun. There is hundreds of cards in here with hundreds of facts. You put them together. You make your perfect creature and then you fight it against your friends. You have a lot of good yucks in the process.

Very easy. My four-year-old loves it. Yeah. It's great. Pick up a battle Royal game. Anytime. Tell them where they can get it, Peter. Well, go to wild times.com. Forward slash BR to get that game.

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