Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Laura Zerra Survivalist, Naked and Afraid Behind The Scenes, & Madagascar Poop Flu

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

Episode Video @ https://youtu.be/6u0_xGTtT60 Survivalist Laura Zerra joins the crew for their very first video podcast! Also, Forrest laments on his dream of becoming a jungle porn producer. And producer Will makes his first appearance for an unedited and raw episode of The Wild Times. You don't want to miss this one. We love you! More at https://thewildtimespodcast.com Follow us on IG, FB, & Twitter @WildTimesPod

Wild times. What's up, everybody? Well, we got a special show here tonight. I am in Montana, and we'll circle back to Y in a second. And I'm joined live via, what is this, Riverside? I don't know, some kind of special fancy software. The first video podcast, bro. Yeah, it's big stuff. Riverside, FM.

And everybody's here. We've got producer Will on board. up, Will. Hey, what's up, guys? Yeah, he's a big talker, ladies and gentlemen. He's in Brooklyn. He's in Brooklyn. I'm real jealous of his brick wall. That's nice. Yeah. As always, there is the broducer, Mr. Patrick DeLuca. Yo, I'm in a hotel in Manhattan, Kansas. Nice. Pretty about it. The, uh, the, uh, the professor. What's up, proffeser? Pig trash over there. Mr. Retep. Where are you? Oh, how you doing? Sir? I I'm still in Recita in this lovely small room.

It's still nicer than Pat's. Pat, you look terrible today. Thank you. Forrest, Will. Hello. And who else do we have here? Well, aside from myself, the broologist, we have the number one world best female survivalist and adventurer,

my personal friend, whose house I am currently sitting in the living room of, Miss Laura Zera. What's up, Laura? What's going on? Thank you guys for having me. Thank you for the incredible hospitality. and I took a beer out of your fridge when you went to the back room.

Perfect. I'm so excited about that. Forest, how drunk are you already? You seem pretty drunk and it's pretty late for you. Hey, it's definitely past my bedtime. It's 10.38 here,

PM. Yeah, which is late. And I'm not that drunk, but we will fix that during this podcast, I'm sure. Hey, so, Forrest, do you have a taxidermied cougar behind you?

Sure, That's something that you did? Did you do that today? Did you... It's been a really busy day. I've got a mountain lion over my left shoulder and a bear over my right shoulder. And that's because I'm in Montana at Laura Zara's friend's house. Whose house are we at, Laura?

Jana Waller. So she's a bit of a badass. She's a pretty amazing hunter and good friend of mine. And she has quite the great collection. So we go together well because everything I own is... bones and antlers and furs. So interior decorating is kind of what we do now. You know, just rocks with bones.

They're really weird chicks. She's on the perfect podcast because we're weird dudes. Hey, so real quick, Forrest, what makes, like, okay, you just said she's the number one female survivalist. Who keeps, like, who keeps track of this? How do you know that? Well, I do. We have annual competition.

Yeah. I mean, well, I think here's how. Laura's probably the person to ask, not me, but here's how I see it. If you Google woman survivalist, female survivalist, Laura Zara, that one's oddly specific, you're going to find Laura Sarah because she is, Laura has done all kinds of different survival things. She does extreme challenges. I'm going to, I'm going to just sing her praises for a minute here. She's survived naked on television doing survival for how many hundreds of days now? I mean, like crazy amounts. Yeah, a couple. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get into that. What are you talking about?

I mean, it's really been like more of a lifestyle for me. So, I mean, for more than 15 years now, I've just been living without anything in various places around the world. And it's not just like some people are really good at one thing. I mean, there's not going to be anyone that's better at one specific location than like, you know, people who are still living traditionally. But I've gone and lived in pretty much every different ecosystem that I could find and gone. and gone and lived with, you know, sometimes absolutely nothing.

You know, why were, it sounds like absolutely nothing. It means you had absolutely no clothes as well. What, what, why were you naked? Yeah, there's been occasionally this thing that Forrest and I shared where we just naked, you know, naked, you know. Oh, so you were on naked and afraid? More than one. Oh, that's what it's called.

Were you on the show more than once? Yeah, I did it five times. So I just couldn't. But wait, but wait, there's more. Because you've done the 21 day twice, correct? Yeah, I did the 21 or no, wait, yes, 21 twice. I did a 14 day. I did a 40 day and a 60 day.

She spent 60 days naked in the Philippines surviving on nothing but what she could find herself. Was the 60 day one alone or was that one with a partner? I haven't seen the 60 day one. It was a partner. And then on day 21, they surprised us and dropped off like 12 other people for a 40 day. Oh, okay. But just me and one other guy did the 60 days.

So let me ask you. That's crazy. So you and only one other guy made it the full 60. Yep. I've never done any type of survival, let alone naked. Does the naked part actually end up being a thing? Like is that part of the deal? Like it makes it way harder?

Absolutely. I mean, clothing is your first line of shelter. So when you take that away, I mean, not only are you vulnerable because it's weird, because, you know, not only are you out there with other people you don't know, but there's camera people there. So that's awkward. But then, you know, bugs can bite you wherever they want. They don't have boundaries anymore.

And the sun will hit you in places. It's never hit you potentially. And so there's all sorts of weird things that you don't think about where even having a bikini would have been a useful item out there. How long? And then for us, since this is your podcast, I'll let you talk at a certain time. No, I don't care. Go for it. You can hang out with more all day.

How long does it take before you. forget that you're naked and this social weirdness of it goes away. I mean, for me, honestly, like five minutes. I think that the men have a harder time. Like, they're way more... Literally. No fun.

No fun. But, yeah, they feel way more awkward about it, because they just feel way more judged. You know, and they always have an explanation about... Oh, yeah. Oh, it's cold. You're like, shut up. Yeah. There's nothing worse than a naked guy. I didn't even... I didn't even think to

up with a reason when I did naked and afraid. Well, you might be the only man that has not come up with an excuse right off the bat. Like, let me explain this situation. No, I mean, Cassie was like, is it called out? I was like, nope, just really small. And that was the end of the conversation. Dude, the best was Forrest and I were in Louisiana doing a extinct or a live episode looking for an extinct woodpecker.

And why did you go, Nick? Oh, you went to rig a, what the hell? Trail camera. Trail camera. But it was the only set of clothes you had. So you stripped down naked and we were with this like 70 year old dude Michael Collins who's dedicated his entire life to finding this woodpecker. Forest just strips down naked and starts wading out into the swamp.

And he just looks at Michael Collins and is like, hey, eyes up here, Michael. And Michael just goes, that's a small penis, man. Jesus, man. I had known this guy for legit 30 minutes. Like, we had just met him. We walked into the swamp and he's like, this is where I saw the ivory-billed woodpecker, except at that time, you know, it wasn't flooded here. And I was like, so right at that tree over there? He's like, yep.

I was like, well, I don't have any extra clothes and we're hiking the rest of the day. I'm not getting my underwear wet. So, and we went. You must have a shockingly small penis. Oh, yeah. Yeah. From every. Oh, yeah.

No, it's, it's like, yeah. It's not good. You're not in the penis weeds here. Yeah. No, not a shoe. Dude, Forrest is he's very naked. Like, whenever we're on boats, he's constantly. He's always trying to get the shock value joke.

It's funny. Yeah. Not because it's so small. No, it's actually a perfectly beat T. Hogan. So, why I think he's sort of a little behind the scenes, because Laura, I think people will be interested. Is it a big topic of conversation? like are the guys constantly like making little tips like I'm sorry it's cold it's not like this do you ever see them like tugging it a little bit to try it's terrible it's like the worst it makes it's just like I don't care like

after the first time I manage you're like we had bigger fish to fry like I whatever yeah but there's this concern and I think a lot of the guys get concerned when they haven't done it before and they don't understand that they're going to be too scared for this to happen but they're always worried like what if I go out there and I see a naked chicken I get excited and they're so worried about that and then they feel like like, oh, but that didn't happen. So now she doesn't know anything about this except how it looks now. And they have this need to explain. And it's just the over-explanation is so uncomfortable.

Because then you're like trying to look and support them and be like, no, it's fine. Like it's not that little. You're also like, uh, maybe I don't know. It's weird. Laura's legit done like thousands of interviews about naked and afraid. This is the first time one hit one is taking a deep dive into penis size of contestants. Yeah. You know, and I think no one really cares.

No one wants to, you know, I mean, who wants to, I don't know, who wants to see like a flaccid penis anyway? I legit never even considered it. I legit never thought to like say anything about it. I was just like, this is what's like that whole made up conversation I had never happened. I just didn't think that we have to like make an excuse. I wasn't like, oh, your tits are ton not that great. Like, what's up with that? Cold out?

Well, now, Forrest. So you, you. You actually, and you gained what, about 30, 40 pounds before you went out there. 30, 40. Yeah, no, it was like 70, 80. Yeah. So, no, you couldn't even see your penis any of that nuts. Oh, rude.

So rude. You lost it. You found that stash of potatoes. Laura, when you were out there, I'm pretty sure you're one of the first ones I watched. And you guys, you and the guy you were with just essentially just thrived. You're the first ones that I saw that, like, dominated. I just remember you guys were, like, crush it. Yeah, well, actually.

And you guys had, like, this strong-ass bond. Yeah, I've had some really great, great partners out there, you know, and everyone has their own strengths. But probably the thing I'm most proud of is I was just telling Forrest, I actually made booze out there on my 60 day. And my partner, Jeff, was a Mormon, and he drank with me. And we got really drunk. Jeff.

And it was, we did the first ever drunk diary camera. and we were pretty drunk. Like, it was kind of amazing. And also, I was terrified to see it because I hadn't seen the footage. And then they, you know, showed it on TV long as everyone. And I'm like, man, you don't want to see, like, the first time that you've been drunk out there like that. You're starving anyway. The booze hits you super hard and could have been worse.

Laura, what, tell us what you made the booze out of, because I think this is fascinating. So keep in mind, you have nothing out there. You don't have a canister. You don't have anything to make anything with. And Laura was like, I'm having so much fun. I'm going to fucking make alcohol. So why don't you walk us through how to make booze in the jungle? Absolutely.

So I took a bamboo. So there's like this giant bamboo and I cut it out of notes. So I had this huge container. And I boiled water in it so that it was sterile. And then I took coconut water, boiled that, let it cool down. I boiled it with sugar cane. Let that cool down, and then I scraped some yeast off the outside of the sugar cane. Threw that in there, and I made this ring out of woven grass because it needs to be able to breathe.

But if any flies whatsoever gets in, they have bacteria on their feet. If the bacteria touches the fermenting booze, then it turns to vinegar. So I don't have that to happen. So I made this grass ring, put it perfectly on top of the bamboo container, and then I took this half of a coconut shell, and I rested it on top of that so that no flies could get in, but the air could get out. And I wove a basket and suspended it from a tree so that no one would knock it over because my biggest fear was I was going to have this perfectly brewing booze.

And then production was going to like walk by in the morning and tip it over. So I left it there for like a week. And then we got really drunk. And it worked magically. It was delicious. Oh, man. That's really fun. How many drink buzz did you get off that?

Like three, four drinks? Oh, I mean, like how many different times do we get drunk? no no no like did you get like drunk drunk or just oh yeah oh no for sure drunk drunk but i mean you have to think about it like we i hadn't had booze in a long time like we weren't eating the foods we normally eat um but yeah we were drunk drunk like to the point where there were actually other people camped way down in their side of the beach and we were hiding outside of their shelter mooing i don't know we were those neighbors you know Hell yeah.

But it was really great. And then we caught a bunch of crabs in the moonlight. And we were like had like our drunk crab feast at the end of the night. So we were in pretty okay shape the next day. God damn. That sounds magical. Did production not like seeing you guys thrive so much? Did they want to see more struggle?

Sounds like you guys had a party out there. Yeah. I mean, there's definitely, I think the suffering sells a little bit better. And let's just put it this way. We left. I think the next day after we got drunk, we had to move on closer to extraction. So there might have been a little reason for that. You know, like, you guys have way too much fun on this beach paradise.

Like, go back into the jungle where you're going to eat snails for days. But I was selling forests, I did actually take the leftover booze. We had like a little bit left in the bottom of the barrel, you know. And I let the flies get into it. And then it turned into vinegar. I found wild peppers. and I distilled salt from the ocean and I made hot sauce. And then I made a little vial out of a smaller thing of bamboo and I had like a salt shaker and a hot sauce container so that the snails weren't as disgusting as they were in the beginning.

I feel like you got to turn, you got to start a booze and a hot sauce company. It's a really good idea. That's a really good idea. And yeah. Forrest, you can start a potato company since you found a stockpiled jungle potato. Cool. Can I just take a picture of your nude body and slap that on the cover as the advertising photo? My face looks like a potato. My body looks like a potato.

God damn. Yeah, these guys are brutal to me. Well, something came across my desk here at the Fairfield Inn and Sweets in Manhattan can. So I walked in and it was waiting on my desk. That's good. That's good. I thought about this. Yeah.

A new study in Botswana has shown that cattle with eyes. painted on their butts are preyed upon significantly less than one without them. Isn't that great? What's going on there? Ranchers are painting eyes on their cows' butts? Exactly right. So it's the same reason that peacocks have eyes on their tail feathers or certain snakes have like monocle cobras have those rings on the back of their heads.

Predatory animals will not typically attack something head on because they know there's a chance of risk. There's a chance of them getting injured in the pursuit of prey. So what these people figured out is what if we paint some eyes on the ass of our cows and then maybe, you know, the animals won't attack from either end and gave it, gave it the old Whirlski. And sure enough, it worked. They found that there was a significant reduction in the attacks on their cattle because the predators felt as though they were being watched by the cows at all times and couldn't sneak up on them, which I think is just tremendous. It's based on the Google

search I just did. It's mostly lions that are eating the cattle there, right? So they're cats. Correct. So one thing I know as the producer is because I have a cat, it's only about eight pounds. But it will

constantly be doing sneaky shit, right? Yep. It gets up on the stove. It climbs around on the stove. It does things I don't like. But if I'm watching, it knows. Like, it's laser, I'll catch her looking out of the corner of her eye to see if I'm looking. And I'm kind of giving her the corner of the eye treatment back. And then she won't do it.

And as soon as I turn my head, she's up on the goddamn stove. Oh, yeah. And they say it's the same thing with mountain lions. Like if you see, if a mountain lion's approaching you, you fucking stare at it, you yell at it. They don't like eye contact. For sure. 100%. No, that is, and that's the reason.

They know when you're looking at them. They're ambush predators that rely on sneaking up on something. and if they feel like their cover is blown, they're not going to make the ambush. Dude, when we were in Zimbabwe, I remember, you know, you were out there a bunch at night trying to dart the line so that you could take the blood sample. And, you know, we were out there.

We had trucks. We had the tree stand. But I was like, hey, if we stayed out here overnight, like if we camped, what are the odds that we'd get killed by a lion? What did you say? 100%. So even if we looked at it, it would still, Even if you drew eyes on Pat's butt cheeks.

So here's the thing. We were in an area that has the highest density of lions of anywhere in the world, right? And the question, if I'm not mistaken, was if we were to try and walk back from where we currently were to camp, which was, I don't know, five, ten miles, whatever, would we make it? The answer was absolutely not. And stand by that. And the thing is, the density of lions in that part of Zimbabwe is so high. They're all in competition for food. And we're no risk, right? A cow, which resembles a buffalo, is a huge risk to a lion. A little pink, fleshy Patrick DeLuca and Boris Galante walking through the African bush, you could stare right down at it and it would lick its lips because you are posing no threat. You are the cat toy in that situation. And yeah, that's a dangerous part of the world at night. That's for sure.

How would you defend against that? You would just have to carry a gun, right? I mean, there's really no other way that you could defend. against that if you were no no i'd actually just kick mitchell our cameraman in the nuts and run away is how i would do that because there's no way that yeah there's nothing that could be done really i mean really you could you could your character yeah no i'm a good guy um you could carry a rifle for sure but it you know and that would definitely create conflict you know perhaps you could stop a lion or two lines but at the end of the day covering that much ground like you're not going to win laura the noise wouldn't Would the noise scare them away? For sure.

Yeah, it would. But there were hundreds of lions in this area that we were in. I mean, they were everywhere. Like, you shoot your rifle off. You definitely scare the immediate lions. 30 minutes later, there'd be more lions tracking you. Laura, have you had any interactions with lions in the wild? No.

I mean, mountain lions, yes. Absolutely. But African lions, no. How to go with the mountain lions? Because I've watched a lot of YouTube videos of close encounters. but I've never had one. Well, I mean, like the problem lions are usually the ones in areas where there's fires or, you know, they've been pushed out of habitat.

They're starving. They're competing too much. But, I mean, I, where I am in Montana, Idaho areas, going way out to the middle of the wilderness, I mean, there's massive cats. And I wonder, I would love to know how many times I've been within 20 feet of a lion and not known. And I've gone down trails and there will be animals freaking out and jumping, you know, deer jumping almost on top of me. and you're trying to figure out why. I mean, this one time I'm walking down this trail,

there's a river on one side, there's a cliff on another, and there's a deer, and it literally was just pushing at me along this trail, and I literally got off the trail and could have touched the deer, and it just ran past me, and I'm like, what is happening? These animals aren't acting normal. I turned around, I was antler hunting, walked down that trail, turned around, ended up coming back about 20 minutes later,

and there's a steaming deer carcass on the trail. So there had been a cat right there, had watched me walk by, and they're not going to see me as prey because, you know, if an animal, like, you know, mountain lion hurts its paw in the wild and, like, forests, you know, they don't take stupid risks necessarily. African lion is going to be totally different, but these cats have probably been hunted before by people. They look at humans as either, you know, at best and unknown, at worst, a threat. And so they watch you walk by and they're not going to risk it now if it's an animal that's starving. It's going to be a different thing.

They're going to be willing. It's willing. They're worth, wow, my drunker. ready? It's worth taking the risk. You should be. It's worth taking the risk if they're starving and there's no other options. But, yeah, I mean, it's nine times out of ten. They're going to be just terrified of you.

Probably 99 times out of 100 in all honesty. African lions, I can't, yeah. Yeah, African lions are a little scarier for sure. They're more willing to take on big prey. So there have been a couple deadly mountain line attacks in the L.A. area. where Peter, what's your nickname again, the professor, where we live. So a mountain line can easily kill a human, right? Yeah, for sure.

We're shit. We're trashed. It's kind of offensive to me that I can go out in the woods and they don't see me as prey. I'm like, why am I not considered part of the food chain? I am easy picking because I don't have a weapon. Yeah, no, you look like a badass. Thanks, but yeah, I mean, let's be honest. Unless it's like so 40-pound cat, I think it's probably going to win.

I mean, you know, he's all been attacked by house cats. That's so intense. It's true. Yeah. House cats are the dumbest motherfuckers in the world, though. Shut up. Yeah, that's right. You heard me, Pat.

I'm going to tell a story about Patrick's cat that he might get a little angry. He knows the story. I actually don't. Yeah, you do. You do. The very first night I had a sleep over. over at Papa Peas. We went out.

Look at his eyes. Yeah. I'm bad we have video. We went out. We went out. We did a little light drinking in the town of Weho and came back around 2 a.m. 2.30 and then continued to do a little more light drinking until I called it quits at like four. And I had like, I don't know, like a 7 a.m. meeting at Discovery across town.

So I like stumbled up. Three hours later. Yeah. So I stumbled up like Dulucon. was like 17 flights of stairs in his townhouse to the top floor and got up there. And it was, you know, it was one of those warm nights in L.A. So I opened the door. Like he's got this nice little balcony out there. And I opened the door and passed out on top of the bed. I woke up several times in the night to throw up, which I don't think Patrick actually knew because I was

like pretty embarrassed that I was that drunk. And then, and then in the morning, I closed the slider and headed downstairs and, you know, took off for my meeting. Well, like six hours later, when Patrick finally woke up, he sent me a text. He's like, hey, have you seen Lemley? I'm like, no, I'm pretty sure Lemley was downstairs when I left. And he's like, really? And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm nearly positive. I saw him downstairs.

He's like, okay, cool. Well, three days went by and Patrick sent me another text going, hey, man, I'm really freaking out. Are you sure you saw Lemley? And I'm like, well, I did open the slider that night. I was sleeping up on the top floor. And he's like, are you fucking kidding me? Lemley had gone up into my room, left my room from my deck,

and what ended up like four balconies over, Patrick, where you had to go save him? Six balconies over. So finally I'm like, Jesus Christ, I go up, and it's one of the like three days that's ever rained in L.A. It's pouring rain, and I'm shaking the bag of like friskos or whatever the treats are.

And all of a sudden, pops up. So I live in, I live in Unit 2. She's on the balcony of Unit 7. And just there, literally 60 feet, just on this tiny ledge, 60 feet above the ground, just getting rained on, looking like a wet sewer rat. So my Glem would come. And she doesn't know what to do. So she jumped back down into their balcony. So now I'm one of the fucking flying Walendas, climbing across balconies like a ninja in the rain, scoop up my wet rat terrified cat, and bring it back. Because here's the thing, if Forrest had just told me on day one, yeah, I'm a crazy person who sleeps with all the shit open. I do.

There's a screen door. All the door is in this house are open right now. There are screens, but they are all open. I can help myself. It's kind of amazing. That's fucking weird. Why do you, why do you got to have it fully open? I like, I like the fresh LA air, you know?

It's all that beautiful smog down there that I just like to take in. You can't get it through the screen. You can't get it through the screen. I don't want to filter anything out, Peter. All right. Here's what I want to ask you, though. So, so the mountain lion, one mountain lion, one person, mountain lion easy, right? It wins.

How many mountain lions would it take? Give me a number of what a fair fight would be, Mountain Lions versus African Lions. Oh, God. Put a real number on this. I'm going to, all right, I'll play this game. This is like the kind of question that I get on Instagram from like 12-year-olds. Yeah, all week long.

I'm going to go, right. I'm going to go six mountain lions to one African lion. Laura, quick thoughts, six plus a month. I mean, yeah. You're going six? I will. Are we talking like, just. like one African lion?

Yeah, one African lion. How many mountain lions need to surround it in a circle for the mountain lions to win? God. Six, huh? That's my call. I actually tax it or meet an African lion once, and that's like the most intimate I've ever been with one. So I'm just trying to imagine.

That's probably a wrong choice of words. What's the size difference? What is the size difference? Yeah, as the way it goes, I don't know what. I don't know. So like a mountain, mountain line's probably, I mean, what, half the size of an African line, maybe less? Less than half. Yeah.

I would say like four, like six. I mean, I just trust Forrest about this kind of thing. So I don't want to say anything. That's not what he's saying. Well, look, an adult African lines like 450 pounds, 400, 450 pounds. Are the mountain lions working as a team? Is it like team sport? They have like magical abilities?

They didn't have a lot of time to. practice. Like, they talked about it, but it wasn't like, okay, now let's go drill it. They were like, just randomly came together and they're like, we don't know each other. We don't know our skill level. We got to pick a game plan. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I got to go get my plug. You guys, mine will disappear.

Leave you with my antler chair for about this one. No, you're good. Go for it. All right. So, yeah. Yeah. And an amount lines like 120 pounds, right? But it's not, it's, to me, it's not the exact size that,

makes the difference. It's the fact that African lions, they are, they're made to fight, right? Like a male African lion spars with other male African lions. They tackle big prey. Like, they're just, they're super big and gnarly and aggressive. And mountain lions, don't get me wrong, they're pretty scary, but they're like small, stealthy, quiet, you know, they're hunters of deer. They're solo ambush predators. They're not these big brawny testosterone-fueled animals like an African lion. It's like, you know, it's like, it's, look, here's, here's the right? It's like if, how many Peters is it going to take to beat up one Mike Tyson, right? Like they're about the same size, but Peter is a marshmallow and Mike Tyson is a ruthless

animal, right? Like, it's going to take minimum six retaps to beat up one Mike Tyson. I think the listener should weigh in on this, on this, on this. Brousner's. Yes, Instagram post. Broastner. Well, so, okay, so I weigh 180 pounds. A two-year-old... A two-year-old...

A 50-soaking wet. Yeah. You're very... A two-year-old toddler weighs, I'm going to give it 25 pounds, right? Okay. So by that math, it would take about seven toddlers to take me out. I think I could kill a thousand toddlers. Yeah, yeah, but you're talking about these lions, these mountain lions are hunting machines and lions that they fight.

You're talking about toddlers. I mean, they're not going to fight you. They're not coordinating. Like, you know, I could take out a thousand. Okay. But what if you were taking on? Do you remember the 90s movie The Three Ninjas, who were toddlers that did karate?

Sure. What if you were taking them on? They were basically toddlers that did karate. I would incapacitate them in seconds. I don't, dude, did you see the movies? They were pretty tough. They were tough. Wow.

They could also formulate. Can I further this tangent? Of course. I've had a question on my mind for like literally a decade that I have never been able to solve for. Could I beat up a cheetah? Could I take out a male or a female cheetah? Like I'm 6.5-225. I was so excited that you've been sitting on this for 10 years and we get to find out tonight.

Literally had this argument with my college teammates like every fucking morning and it would just like every argument devolve into this and I just always wanted to know. Look, one-on-one. I don't need Forrest's answer this. Will and a cheetah looked like. Yeah. Paint a picture here for us, Forrest. Wait, sorry. So what was the question?

Can he eat up a cheetah? Can Will, who's a very large fan? I'm six, six. Yeah. What would it look like? Will, here's, okay. So here's Will, 65, 220.

Guy's a fucking stud. He's a god of men, right? Six five, two, twenty. God. What are you, Michael Phelps? Like, look at you. Right? He's standing here.

he's facing off the 75-pound kitty cat. Now, they're fast, right? They are, that's a quick animal. But Will versus Cheetah with a big thump and stick, Will's going to win the fight. Now, you're going to come out of that fight with a lot of stitches and be a real sad panda, but you're going to kick its ass because cheetahs are not made to fight. They are made to run something down to exhaustion and then leap and kill. If you are fighting a cheetah, you are going to win.

In a scenario, he always had a stick? I always, he's got to have a stick. You're not going to win bare hand. I used to go with baseball bat, but I felt stick was a little more. Either off. Bear hand. My argument was always, as long as I don't run away, it has to, like, approach me, right? If I run, it's just going to, like, trip me up and then, like, bite me or something?

You act like prey. You're going to be treated like prey. You act like an alpha. You're going to be treated like an alpha. Speaking like a rule of thumb, like prey. Amazing. One of my favorite forest stories, and I think we've told it before, but is when you broke your back jumping through a waterfall. Oh, yeah.

Mine too. Love that story. You were peacocking and showing off and you tried to jump from behind a waterfall through it. That's, Pat, much like when you burst your eardrums trying to peacock and show off for those Brazilian. We've all been through this. Every young heterosexual male has done something very painful trying to show off. There's no time at which we have. Quick answer.

What happened when you jumped through the waterfall? What happened when you hit the water? Did it push you down into the rock? It did. It did. Just a tad. Well, researchers have discovered that hummingbirds have figured out a way to fly through waterfalls. I haven't seen this yet. I read the headline. Tell me about it. So what they do is they turn sideways and they use one wing to slice through the water and it creates a little gap in the water and then the bodies go through the opening that the wing is creating and then they come out the other side. I don't know what they're doing.

Why are they going behind waterfall? No. I don't know. They've evolved. What do you mean? Who wouldn't want to? So is this something that they just discover that hummingbirds have always done? Or is it something that hummingbirds have recently learned from watching other prodigy hummingbirds who have figured this amazing town out?

I think hummingbirds saw that it was trending on Instagram to get pictures behind waterfalls. So they start like hearing it. But this is pretty cool. Like wing in? It's very cool. I'm through. It's very cool. Well, so is this something that they call to do, or is this a behavior they could learn for us?

Well, no, this is most likely a learned behavior, right? And it's evolved as a term that takes place over generational time, right? And you're talking about many, many, many generations. This is something that I imagine, there's something that the hummingbird needs on the other side of the waterfall, whether it's good nectar from something that's flowering under there or just a good place to roost or whatever it may be. So these animals are learning to come through that water for a neat. Now, over the next 200 million years, if they all of a sudden develop waterproof wings or long, spindly feathers hanging out off the tips of their wings to cut through water, that's evolution

for the cause of going through the waterfall. This is a learned behavior that these animals are exhibiting. And it's very cool. Is it something that will now be passed down? Like, you know what I'm saying, like, is this behavior now something that's going to happen from now on with hummingbirds? Well, we don't know. And that's what's so interesting, right? Now, what could happen is, say, 500 hummingbirds try this, and 480 of them die, right? They can't do it, right? They try and wave through the water, and they get splashed down and they die. Well, those remaining 20 that do it perfectly create offspring. Now, those offspring are likely going to be more capable of doing it correctly, right? Because that's a behavior that's now generationally passed through time and so on and so forth.

So it's not, and that's, you know, that's a very simple way of talking about natural selection, but it's not necessarily that this is something that hummingbirds are going to continue to do or they've always been doing. We don't really know. And there's a big difference between nature and nurture, right? And we don't understand it, right? Why do any animals do anything? We really don't know the answer to it. Some of its instinct and some of it's learned. That's nature versus nurture, right? We can learn to do behaviors. We can learn from our parents. Primates learn from their parents.

Marine animals learn from their parents. Or we can instinctually do it, right? Like birds know to just fly south for the winter. That's an instinct. So where does this behavior fall on that scale of nature versus nurture? Couldn't tell you. All right. Well, I mean, it's super interesting that something is small and stupid as a hummingbird

to fucking pick this up. I like all of them. They're like crazy mating tail whistles. Like they're big. brilliant. I feel like when I first heard about that, I was like, I am never going to settle for a guy unless he like flies up into the air and plummets within inches of his death, making a whistle by holding his body a certain way. I was like that. And this is why. And I just want you guys to hear that, right? So you heard that statement. This is why I broke my back because of women like Laura out there. You're like, if that guy doesn't jump through that waterfall, there's no way I'd sleep with them. These stupid hummingbirds can do it. Well, the funny part is, Forrest. I was going to say birds are like the main animal that does this. Like it's all on the male bird.

Birds of Paradise. Peacots. It's all about Peacock. Making some big, grand display, which is like, I guess it's why dudes drive Ferraris in Beverly Hills. I guess that works too, apparently. Will. Well, we wouldn't know. Peacock's literally.

I want the death plummet. Yeah, all right. Peacocks incapacitate themselves entirely just to have bigger, better feathers, right? The male... Sure do. Yeah. It's the same reason DeLuca hits the old airport Marriott Gym in Kansas. He's really...

Those are show muscles. Now, that's said. He's non-functional this guy. Let's talk about peacocking a little bit when it comes to humans. So Forrest and I were producers on a TV show that... Oh, boy. I know where this is going. Already?

Eddie? You guys are so cute. Yeah, so we produced a show. It was a lot of fun. Didn't, it was for History Channel. It didn't work out. We did two episodes. And one of the stars of the show was a male peacock named Andrew Eucles, who is a YouTube celebrity. He is an Australian wild man who is, Forrest, you, you know, would you say he's legitimately really good with Crocs? I would say he's legitimately insane. that helps him be good with everything. Like, you guys make fun of me for not having an amygdala.

This kid doesn't even know what the word fear means. And I don't mean that because of how brave he is. I mean, he's that stupid that he never learned what fear means. So, damn, son. So Andrew has incredible videos on YouTube. He's one of those people who likes to get really, really close to really dangerous animals. He did some insane stuff on our show. He did an episode with crocodiles and Mianinaima, as he said, because he couldn't say.

Yeah, he couldn't say Myanmar. And then we went and filmed an episode with sharks in Tiger Beach off the Bahamas. He, I am a better swimmer than he is. And yet he would just not take no for an answer. Like 17 foot tiger shark, he was going to ride it even though he literally looked like a fish out of water in water. Laura, do you know Andrew at all? Yeah, I think I've heard of him before. It's like ringing some bells.

Could you elaborate on that, Laura? He definitely might be an ex-boyfriend. How did you guys meet? How do you meet Andrew Eukles? How does an American who lives in Montana meet the weird Australian girl? Yeah, I know. It's very strange. He was actually coming over to the U.S.

And he was going to be doing some filming. And we ended up connecting somehow online. and I ended up in L.A. and met up with him. And then we traveled around for like, I don't know, a couple years. Oh, my God. Crazy things. Yeah. You spent a couple years with him?

Yeah. I like him, by the way. He's just his personality. Oh, I love Andrew. He's amazing. Like, he's, I mean, if you've never met him, you just can't even understand. And people should check out. It was kind of incredible.

Yeah. So what I did. He's nuts. He's a limit. So if you're listening to this, he is absolutely insane. Laura, didn't you guys catch a beaver? We did. He rode it like a jet, like one of those, what are those like waters?

Like you put him in the water and you like it towed through the water. What are those called? I don't remember. It's not a jet ski. It's like it actually brings you underwater. You can dive with it. Anyway, he rode the beaver. He was holding the beaver and the beaver was pulling him through the water.

I mean, it was insane. And beavers are like furry crocodiles. That's like they're actually kind of intimidating, especially on land. They're fearless and it's creepy because they're just beavers, right? Yeah, they're kind of crazy. We've spoken about this before. There's much fear of beavers. Very strange because I'm not scared.

Like, all I face down a grizzly bear for a beaver, like they're just weird because you think they're going to be scared of you and they're not, and that alone is intimidating. Was him writing the beaver part of his peacocking display to get you interested in him? I mean, I feel like I was already sold at this point. Okay. But it just, you know, I don't even think when Andrews are on animals, it has nothing to do with anything other than his own glorious psychoses of just like he is in it. Like he's not thinking about anything else at that moment because if he does, he'll probably die. And he just goes to this whole other place. And it's kind of amazing.

So what is someone like Andrew who does all this crazy shit? Like get inside his brain for a second. Do you know him better than any of us do? Like, what is the drive? Is it, is it DNA? Like, what do you think it is? Yeah, I mean, it's really interesting. I just think he goes to this place where he doesn't get, you know,

I think you see a lot of people get to that place where it's like, it's not a place of rational thought. It's like, if you're thinking, you're art, you've already lost. And he just goes to this point, especially seeing instinctually the way he reacts when there's no cameras, when he's by himself, when you're out there, and all of a sudden, the instinct takes over, and he just reacts. Like, I think that's kind of the glory of Andrew, is that he can do all these amazing things on camera. But when I've seen him do the most amazing things, it's when there's no cameras there. And there's no thought of anything else, anyone else. Like, it is him and that animal having this moment.

And it's like, they just go and they dance. And it is like, it's wild because if you think, if he had a thought across his mind, he would probably literally die in a lot of these instances. Do you see that shitty grin on Patrick's face? It's because he's thinking about the same sex pun jokes that I was thinking about at three different times during that conversation. It is, though, but you're saying no because you're trying to be a good guy, but I know what you're thinking. Because right when Laura said his best work is when the cameras aren't on him, you did the same smile I did. So I was like, oh, I know what Patrick's thinking. These two have some love connection that me and the listeners know about, but these guys are always always.

Don't you worry about that. I do have a question off. Go ahead. Go ahead, Peter. Oh, no, so just a, so you guys both Forrest and Laura were on naked and afraid, and I'm sure they probably asked this on the show, but what was, what's the motivation to do something like that, which is literally be thrown into this ridiculous environment, naked, and try and survive for 21 days? Well, I'll tell you what it was for me.

It might be different for Forrest. but I was broke and they were going to fly me to a different country and let me do what I love somewhere else. And I was like, I am sold. Give me that plane ticket. Well, Laura's is a better reason than mine. But mine was just because I thought, like, this is hilarious. And it's a situation that you would never put yourself in, right? Like, you'll self-rescue if you're ever stranded in a week in five days, whatever.

You'll never get stranded but naked with a stranger. Like, I was like, this is a really funny situation that you will never voluntarily put yourself in. So let's go and do it. That's what it was. Yeah. Like, I've been putting myself in dumb situations, but you literally never get to go to some random place that's been selected for you that you can't prepare for with a random person. And kind of, I mean, the worst part for me was that it was going to be a semi-controlled environment in that there would be a BDO shit button you could tap if it got really bad. Like that was like the least exciting part of it.

But it was like being out there with a random stranger that they selected in a place they selected and they were just going to fly me there and let me have this adventure with that person. And it wasn't, you know, at the time I didn't think I was going to make any money. And I didn't think, you know, which we didn't. But like it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to go and have this game show happen. Because when I did it, there wasn't like a, you know, there, we were the second episode they were filmed. There was no. They didn't even tell us we were going to be naked in the beginning. What?

But, you can't show up in another country and they're like, oh, yeah. They were like, oh, no. It was kind of a situation where they were like, well, we're going to put you out there. You move with a stranger in a random remote location and like there's a small chance you might be naked. And so it'll be great. You'll have one item and it was like, wait, wait, wait, back up, right? Like, what did you say about the naked part?

And like, well, there's a small chance to make it more challenging. We're not sure yet. And then, you know, and then I find out later on that, yeah, that was the case. Yeah, that fucks. They knew the entire time. They knew. But it was very vague in the beginning. I mean, I thought there was a chance you could go out there and it would be like

Survivor or whatever, but, you know, I'm glad I wasn't. It was the opposite. They were like, yeah, it's like survival. And he was like, is there any chance I could pop my trousers down? Yeah. Shock value never goes away. My teenie Hogan needs to be shown to the world. My first partner actually thought it was an actress that they hired.

We were all sorts of confirmed. used out there. Oh, shit. Wow. So I had a fun piece of news come across my desk here at Laura's house, which makes a lot of sad. We had it delivered. We texted over there.

Oh, thanks, guys. So there's some elephants in the Warsaw Zoo that are not very happy. They're feeling a little stressed, a little bit distressed, if you will. So how... What's wrong with... Well, they live in Warsaw, Poland, and their elephants. So that should answer your question. And in order to see if they could increase their mood, the zookeepers have decided to give them CBD oil.

Now, I am not one of these CBD believers, right? Like, remember the CBD craze like a year ago where it was like, oh my God, CBD cures everything, slap it on there and it gets better. I didn't buy end. Granted, I've literally never tried CBD oil. I don't believe that we are going to find that these elephants that live in a cage in Warsaw, Poland, are going to be any happier taking CBD oil. So, wait, so how did they measure that the CBD is helping them? What did they say? Like, they're smiling more? Like, what's going on? Well, they're going to, I mean, what they're saying, which is at least this part, you know, seems to meet some scientific standards, is they're not going to be able to tell for a couple years. So they're going to be doping these things up on CBD for a couple of years to see if it increases their mood. Now, you can actually, just like you can tell if your dog's upset or your dog's happy, you can tell their mood, right? When you look at your dog and his ears are down and he's mopey and you've shouted at him, you know, your dog's unhappy, and you look at your dog in his tail's wagon and his ears are perked up and, you know, his body language is all happy. You can tell he's happy. So it's the same thing with getting to know a lot of different animals, but certainly intelligent ones like elephants. So they will be able to tell whether or not there's an increase in mood. Obviously, they could do things like dopamine tests and

things like that, but I don't think that's what they're attempting to do here. At least there's no information about that. I think they're just going to see if the animals' moods increase overall. Interesting. I wonder if they started this during COVID? Like, weren't a lot of zoo animals, it was different because there weren't visitors coming in because of restrictions and wasn't, weren't animals getting depressed anyway because they weren't having like the interaction of distraction? I've definitely heard some of that, especially in aquariums with marine mammals, that the animals are getting depressed from not having engagement from new people, which I, you know, I don't know.

I haven't been to a zoo lately, so I can't say one way or another. But it is interesting to think that, you know, if you think about an animal that's in captivity and it's in confinement, it's only stimulation as a visitor, right? What else does it get? A little bit of behavioral enrichment, a little bit of food here and there. But other than that, it's just the engagement from the viewers. And if you take that away, what, you know, that's the animal's television, so to speak. When you take that away, what does it have to entertain itself with?

So not a very controlled study then. No. So we'll never really know the effects of CBD on these Polish elephants. What a shame. Or we have to wait two years to find out. Yeah. By which time we will all have forgotten that they're giving these elephant's CBD oil. Yeah, I'm not.

How does everybody? The elephants won't forget. They never forget. They won't. How is everybody doing in, you know, know, this far into COVID. I mean, we haven't even touched base on this in months. I feel like we've kind of gone a little bit back to normal. I gave up. I gave up on COVID. I said no more and got in my truck and drove out here to Montana and been fly fishing and camping and visiting Laura.

I've just started licking doorknobs and toilet seats just to see if it's real. Like, I gave up. Laura, how about you? What's going on there? I got it the first week. Yeah, I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. the day Tiger King came out. How did you not tell any of us this? This is the big news. We haven't seen each other. I didn't think it was necessary.

This is very necessary. Sorry, please continue. I've got the superhero blood now, I think. I think I'm good to go. I could just... What were your symptoms, well? What happened when you got COVID? Oh.

Couldn't breathe. Couldn't sleep. Couldn't eat. It was like two weeks, maybe? Two or three weeks. Brutal. I reside in Bushwick Brooklyn. I had like nine roommates.

All of us got it at the same time. Did you live in a wild? Was everyone bad? Yeah. Every single person got super sick. Oh, man. But we all, we made it to the other side. And then before April 1st, we were like, yeah, we're good.

No more anxiety, no more fear. Like, we can just go out and do whatever we want. No one needed to be hospitalized out of your eight or nine roommates. Now? All young and healthy. Let me ask. Great. Wow.

Taste and smell. Yeah. Did any of you guys lose your... Oh, yeah. No. I couldn't taste anything for like a month and I can't smell anything still at all. Are you fucking serious? That doesn't seem worth it.

You said it was worth it. It's not worth it to never smell anything again. I never had a good sense of smell to begin with, but it's like literally like close to zero. Like if you bake cookies, I would need to be like... You have crazy. That's not great either. It's crazy.

Yeah, I don't think I'll be a very good survivalist. What are you going to ask? Damn. Well, before I heard about him completely losing two of his four senses, I was going to ask, would, like, what's your, everybody who hasn't had COVID in this conversation, would you take being sick as shit for two weeks to be over the anxiety and the fear of COVID? or would you rather live the way we're currently living? And like two weeks, you're like, fuck, this is miserable.

Like, I'm not going to die, but I feel absolutely terrible. And then you're like, I don't care. I can go anywhere. I can breathe anything. Like, I'm done. I've got the antibodies. Would you do it or not? If there was no, like you said, if there's no risk that I would die, I would absolutely

do it. If I didn't know whether I would die or have to go to the fucking ICU or not, I don't think I'd do it. I think that would be the differing. thing for me. What about you, Laura? All sorts of messed up, knowing that I could lose, like, my sense of smell forever. I feel like I really rely on that for a lot of things. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know. I feel like I'm just more in the middle of, like, I'm not going to try to get it, but my anxiety is not that great around it. So it's kind of like, I'm just going with it right now. Same. I don't know. I don't know. If I could, if I could inject you with a vial of COVID right now and then that's it.

You don't have to think about. it ever again. Would you do it just to take that, you wouldn't do that? No. No. Because you could just go on with what you're doing, be moderated for cautious, and maybe you get it anyway. Sure. Totally. Yeah. Fucking way I would intentionally get COVID. Eh? So, yeah. Well, you're very skittish and meager and afraid of everything. Well, I will tell you something. I do not get sick unless it's from food. Like in Madagascar,

we ate something. I was about to break that up. Some bacteria. That was horrendous. What about on the boat? When you had to crawl over to forest and tap him in the middle of the night. That was food, bro. That was something like. Oh, is that food? I don't get, like, it's weird.

Like, I could be dating someone who has, like, influenza and sleep in the same bed. And I'm just like, I'm good. Also known as the flu. Yeah. Or, like I did you say, the whole name. Okay, okay. This is true. He really doesn't.

But that being said, I've seen it get so sick from food. It's funny. I don't even want to say. I was just telling the guys on the bus about how you tried to power through whatever we all got in Madagascar. On the big hike day, remember? Oh, my God. It was, it was so, Laura, I don't think we've told the story in the podcast, but we were in Madagascar last year. Myself and our Forrest's female co-host on this particular episode, we ate the same thing in Tanna, the capital of Madagascar.

The next day we're driving out, we have the same. really exciting drive to go to, what is it called Bayobab? What's the name of that? Beobab Alley. We're driving to this really remote location. And like, we're just both, we just start sweating. And it's bad. It's, and it's getting real bad.

And I'm like, I can't wait until we get to the hotel so that I can shit my bed. Which we do. It happens. Which he did. And so that, oh, my God. Next day, a couple more people have it. And they're like, I shit in my bed last night. I'd say a couple more people

and then Forest wakes in. Was it the surprise? Wait, wait, to back up. Was it like the surprise you wake up and there's shit in the bed? Or was it like, I have to maybe like fart and it didn't work? It was that. But it was like you wake up, you're so sick

that you're not going to move anyway and then it happens. It's never happened to me as an adult except this. And I literally, it's the only time I smiled during the entire illness. Did you clean yourself up right away? No, I didn't. I'm right back. At least you weren't a sleeping bag.

Dude, I cannot, guys, I cannot tell you how miserable this virus was. Like, Patrick is, we're laughing about it now, but you literally, if you had a gun, you would have shot yourself. Because that's how sick you were. And I know, because I got it three days later, literally everybody was projectileing out of both ends for like 12 to 14 hours straight and then it was done. but it was the most miserable 12 to 14 hours humanly imaginable. Like Patrick said, he didn't get out of his bed when it happened. He couldn't. Like, it was that bad.

And he's like, I think I got the badness. We're like, oh, God, like, we're going. The reason we're at this place is to get one shot of you going by this crazy thing. And he's like, guys, he's good. I'm going to do it. So we drive. It's like four hours from where we're saying we get there. He's green like the fucking.

fucking Grinch who stole Christmas. And he's like, no, I'm good, I'm good. So it's about an hour and a half hike. He's powering through. And I start questioning myself as a human being because I'm like, he's a better person than I am because he's doing this and I was shitting my bed. And I'm pretty annoying. I felt so sick.

He's just not a week late. 45 minutes in. He just goes, this is it right here. Pick me up on the way back. And he just lays down in the jungle. and just goes to sleep, proceeds to shit himself. And it was great. Yep.

Oh, man. I just, I literally couldn't take another step. It's the most defeated I think I've ever been. And you guys were all peeping too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. See that for me. That's my only fear in the world.

Did you know that for us? I did. Yeah. Only because you told me that this evening that puke was your fear. It's my only fear. Why do you hit it so much? Laura. Laura, so we joke on the podcast.

quite often. I think we mentioned it earlier that Forrest, we joke that he doesn't have an amygdala, the thing that causes people to have fear in the brain. And I've asked him this question to before, you know, what is probably like, he's

had several near-death experiences throughout his shenanigans. Have you had any like near-death experiences or just crazy shit you've gotten me? Oh my God, all the time. Yeah. I mean, if I don't die like one, like if I don't almost die at least one time, or I feel like I've been robbed or like I'm not trying hard enough.

But I'm not, yeah. What was the time where you actually thought this may actually be the one? I was jumping freight trains in Mexico. And there was a point in time where these three men were literally jumping. They were tracking me in the desert. I was hiding out in the desert, getting on a different train to try to get out of this town, which is close to the border. It gets a lot more dangerous.

there and they were literally just going on the train to pretty much rob, rape, kill me. God, damn. I ended up on this train car with these three guys through a whole series of events that takes more time than we have, but basically facing down these guys. So it's you and three guys in a train car. And this one other girl who I met on the way. And so she was there with me and all we had was like her tiny little pocket knife. and this 12-inch machete that I'd been using to crack open coconuts for three months that was super dull.

And it was just this face-off. And then this guy that we'd met happened to jump on the train car. And pretty much we had this epic standoff with these men. And they ended up sitting down. We ended up sitting down in the other corner of the train car. And we rode all night. those guys got off and we never had to battle it out. But it was literally that moment where you're thinking like,

I'm going to kill as many of them as I can. Like, what do you do with a body? Am I, like, allowed to not report this? Do I have to tell anyone if I kill these people? Like, it was all these weird questions that were going through my mind of like, oh my gosh, like, what if, you know, what if now I'm a murderer because I'm trying to defend myself? Like, it was just a really scary in a lot of ways.

But I definitely thought I was going to die. I did not think that's where the story was going. I thought I was going to involve an Alaskan, Brown Bear and cardiac. Oh, no, I'm not, like, I've probably been closer to death than I realized in those situations, but, you know. But that's the one that you were like, fuck. Like, I, I, I was like, yeah, no, I trust that these people are definitely going to kill me.

They were all, like, sniffing glue. Like, have you guys ever seen people who sniff glue a lot? Yeah. On TV, on, like, cops. Yeah, no. Enough sitting. Yeah, it was, it's really weird. Like, they can't afford other drugs, and they're all trying to, you know, I don't know.

It's just like the, it was terrible, but they just don't. They're like the closest to human zombies, I think I could ever imagine existing. How often were they, how often were they sniffing it? Because I've sniffed something like. They just have like a little cutoff water bottle. They have a piece of wood in there and they just stir this wood glue and like all the time. Yeah. It's very similar to the poppers, which Peter, I've done with you.

So it's insane thing. Is that like the, is that like the old cans of? No. Oh, no, no, no, poppers. No, that's Whippets. That's Whippets. There you go. Yeah, so, like, it's a little more high class than just straight huffing paint.

You buy it at a, at a sex shop in WeHo. You go out to Big Bear. You have a good time with some friends. Have you ever done Poppers for us? Never, no. The closest I've come is Vietnam balloons. Yeah. Which is maybe, I was going to say, are balloons the same?

I don't know. No, no, no. They're different. So Patrick, Patrick, as the only connoisseur of both balloons and poppers, are they the same? No, they're different. And the way that they act on your brain is actually the exact opposite. So poppers open the blood vessels and your brain fills up with blood, and then it struggles to drain the blood versus if you do like nitrous balloons at a concert or something.

It actually restricts the blood vessels and you're depriving your brain of blood. So the reason that poppers... Which is similar. Yeah, sorry, God. which is similar to what people who are huffing paint and shit like that that's essentially cutting off the oxygen flow to your brain that's why you if you do a lot of that you become really really stupid uh another fun fact about poppers though is that a lot of uh the homosexual crowd uses them because it it relaxes the uh the colon the anal muscles so that you can receive a penis into your anus much much much easier. Thanks, doctor. Head pen.

Ed pen. Yeah, they don't call them the bro- Ben for nothing. I'm the bro-proster. How would you know this? Is this from personal experience? Yeah, Pat, Pat's solicitor. The way that we've used poppers

in the past is we're drinking at a bar a lot and then we know we're going back to someone's place for after hours and we go, wouldn't it be funny if we got poppers? So the effect, if you're not trying to receive something into your a noose is that you sniff the poppers, your face gets warm, and you laugh your fucking ass off

for about 45 seconds. Yeah. You get high. It's a similar effect to doing nitrous balloons or laughing gas after something like that. Two or three poppers in a night, you can probably wake up feeling okay. Once you go four or more, you're waking up with the worst headache of your life. Oh, no good. I got a Popper's story.

Again, back to me and Pat were on a trip, and we brought a thing of Poppers, ended up doing more than three or four. And then that Sunday, I was hanging out in my room, and my heart started beating very, very fastly. And I was freaking out, and I was like, I'm going to die. I'm having a heart attack. Something's wrong. And so I got in my car.

I attempted to drive to the hospital. I got a couple blocks. I just came back. I literally called 9. 1-1, an ambulance came, and apparently, and I didn't realize this till later, but the poppers, they lower your blood pressure in your heart. So it can cause something to happen where it fucks up the electrical impulse, the pulse that goes through your heart, and it basically short-circuited my heart, and it made it beat twice as fast.

It was going 200 beats per minute, and they had to, like, inject me with something, and then they, you know, they were like, well, it's either from the drugs or you have this, this defect in your heart. And I was like, fuck, I'm hoping it's from the drugs and it never happened again. So I think it was. Don't do that. Don't do that. I had a similar experience, but mine was way more nerdy because it was with, what is it,

like the Vandigraph generator and physics class where like everyone gets a bud. Yeah. Yeah. Are you serious? Mm-hmm. Are you fucking serious? I went to the hospital My heart was racing like crazy

And it was from physics class And I just am like super sensitive to electricity But It's not a cool story Because I was doing something fun It was just It was just AP physics It's not cool

Because you weren't doing drugs like Peter I know I was much cool I wasn't trying to say I'm cool I was just saying that Don't do drugs kids Especially you feel Don't stay in school either

Because you can get messed up there as well, so. Just kidding. I won't do drugs or stay in school because I'm an adult. What do you got, Forrest? You know, we started a segment, and then we forgot about it, and I'm going to bring it back. I'm going to bring back, ready for it? Bizarre animal of the week.

I like that. So, we all know that crocodiles, except for Peter, we all know that crocodiles are cold-blooded reptiles. They require energy to come from the sun. Peter, are you listening? This is important. There'll be a quiz later. I'll mail it. He's going to eat quiz nose later.

But recently, in a very remote part of Africa, a new creature was discovered that lives in the caves in almost complete darkness, feasting entirely off of, what would you guess? Peter, what lives in caves? Well, can I guess what it was feasting off? Just say an animal. Yes, that's the question. Guano.

Guano. Close, close. It was feasting off of the bats themselves. Ah. Now, to make this bizarre crocodileian animal even more fantastic, because of its lack of exposure to the sun, the loss of its dark pigment in its scale, has resulted in the animal turning not white like certain cavefish, not pale gray like certain cave mammals,

but an orangeish color, which is very bizarre. This crocodile, which also, this orange crocodile that lives in caves, which only eats bats, cannot get very big because the caves are not very big. And there are only between an estimated 100 and 200 of them on earth, period. These incredible dwarf crocodiles are called the, the, um, Peter, I'm just looking at your face, sorry. What, I'm interested. I'm excited.

I know, and that's nice to see that. These incredible animals are the Abanda cave crocodiles, and they live in Gabon. Incredible, bizarre animal of the week. Orange Abanda cave crocodiles. So Forest just X'd out. So Laura, Since forest was no longer on the... It's like a magic trick.

Life drop. He's like... He's in blood. Crazy crocodile. Laura, why would you imagine that these crocks that are cold-blooded animals that don't see the sun turned orange instead of white like a normal cave animal? I'm like, are they eating something? You know how like flamingos are pink or like certain animals for different colors?

I'm like, but they're eating bats. So why would they... I'm so confused about the orange part of it. Yeah, that's... I don't feel like it. It makes, I mean, what, or were they eating something that was making them not orange? And secretly, they were always orange, but they've been camouflaged. It doesn't make any sense.

It's very strange. Orange is a, is a color that might. Thank you. I don't know what just happened. We thought you mic dropped out. Pat had a question about what. So Laura took a stab at it, but why do you think they would be orange? That's very strange there.

It is strange. Are you guys hearing a really weird echo now? Nope. Nope. You sound beautiful. Are you being abducted? What's that? You sound great.

Yeah, what's that? What's a guess? I know you don't know the answer specifically, but why would you guess they would be orange? Well, because my guess would be the crocodilians are naturally a green that goes darkish to black, right? When you remove that coloration, we remove that specific pigment. The base pigment is likely more close to an orange. orange than it is to a white color. And I think that's what you're seeing here.

If many, many more generations happened... Oh, my God. Are you okay? Did you just shoot up Ivy heroin and take... I wanted to try these paupers that we were talking about. If we went over generational time, I think what you'd see is these animals would become a white color as opposed to orange. but I think this is a relatively new thing. And with the new loss of pigmentation, you're seeing this orange color.

Interesting. They look super cool. I'm looking at some pictures of them. They're really small. It's a strange animal for sure. Do you think they're transitioning towards a white color? Didn't you find like a yellow Kaman? Like, is that yellow is a normal color for like?

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there are, so there are yellowish crocodilians for sure. We found a Cayman in the Amazon that had been presumed to be extinct for, you know, 30 or so years, or at least missing for 30 years. And that was a huge find, obviously. We were super ecstatic about that. But that was very unique because of the color of its skin, right? That very yellowish color was bizarre.

And, you know, crocodiles and crocodiles and alligators, like when we think of them, we think of black or we think of green, right? There isn't a lot of diversity in their pigmentation. So to find that yellow came and that was fascinating because of its amazing skin. color. And now to see this orange crocodile, I mean, that's very, very unusual. It's a coloration that we just don't typically see. So it's also fantastic because crocodilians have been around for millions of years. They've pretty much remained unchanged over evolutionary time because they're at the apex of their evolutionary scale. They don't need to change. But these animals are changing, right? These

animals are going into caves. They're becoming smaller. They're feasting on bats. They're turning orange. This is evolution in action, so to speak, which is fascinating to see, right? We're looking at a creature that's something between a modern-day crocodile as we know it, and something that's coming in the future, which is the smaller orange cave-dwelling carnivorous, bat-eating, weird reptile. And that's what we're seeing. We're seeing evolution in action. Give this animal the ability to live in this environment for another 2 million, 3 million, 10 million years, and let's see what it is because it won't be a crocodile as we know it now and that's really really cool that's annoying i want to see something evolve in like a year you know what i mean i want to like well the

how many earth are ice cream and like have it develop like a second head yeah that would be pretty cool i i i've often so me and a couple bio nerd friends used to see if think that there's a difference between selective breeding and evolution of course but how fast can we push selective breeding, right? Like, if we got rabbits or mice, which breed, like, all the time, right, and just started selecting for something super weird. Like, let's get rabbits with big ears and just make them have ears so large that they literally kind of lift their heads up off the ground anymore. Let's just keep getting the biggest-eared rabbits and just getting them to slam and picking their, just, like, getting rid of all the babies except for the ones of the biggest ears and just keep going.

Like how could I, in my lifetime, in my 70 or 80 years on this planet, could I make a rabbit that's so, ears are so big, it couldn't lift its head off the ground? For sure. I mean, that's what we did. Go on. Pat's parents seem to have done it in one generation. Oh, my God. I can't see my ears and neither can the blestners. I feel like the first time I ever saw rabbits, domestic rabbits, mate was that forest.

That's right. The jumble rabbit. Yeah, the big rabbits. You're just thinking about it. You saw those porkers fuck? Oh, my God. What a Travis thing. Those things are enormous.

I have to plug back. Did it have a human size thing? You like seize up and like make the craziest sounds and tip over and just. Oh, God. Now, you're sure it wasn't Forrest with somebody you picked up at the bar. It was definitely a rabbit. It was definitely the rabbit. Oh, my God.

I can't get it out of my head right now. What did you and Forrest do today? What's sort of like when you get two survivalists together in Montana, what do you guys doing. Is it just drinking booze or what? Eating cheeseburgers? Sure. Did you kill the animals? Nope. Nope. We really just went out.

It was kind of crazy, you know, because it's pretty risky. I mean, in the environment in the world today to go to a restaurant. So we were feeling pretty wild. It's true. Extremely, yeah. We had cheeseburgers, but, you know. Good day. What part of my dinner are you guys in?

Yeah. It is very nice here. Oh, boy. Yeah. Very nice. I might. We've talked about this many times on the pod. I might never come back.

Screw you, California. What do you have to offer? I thought you meant you were never going to come back here. Nope, that's not what I mean. I mean, I might name that I'm staying literally right here in the living room. That's great. I was literally, I was ranting about anti-California shit on the old tour bus today. And one of the guys goes, what aren't you just fucking move then?

I'm like, I know, I'm too much of a pussy. That's why. I'm too scared. Well, Pat, you, I don't think you actually, tell us about this tour bus thing. What's even going on with this? Yeah. So you're... Maybe a TV show in the world of COVID, you know, changes everything.

So we were supposed to shoot eight episodes of this new series all internationally in these crazy locations. And then COVID happened. They're like, yeah, we still want to do it. So we're doing them in the U.S., traveling across the country on a tour bus, which I've never been on one before. I feel. Probably lots of tour buses available with all the tour is shutting down. They're paying us pretty much to use the tour bus. It's great.

But the dude who's, he's our driver and he's used to some shit. So like when he gives you the rundown, like, I just wanted to know, like, how do you turn on the TV? What's the Wi-Fi password? He was telling us where he was okay with us doing different drugs on the tour bus. No way. Was he really? And by the way, if you want to smoke weed, he wants you to do it up in the front where he is because of the way that the drafts work,

that way he gets the least amount inhaled. It's like, if you need to smoke that we, just come up, stand next to me, it'll go right out the door, it's fine. Like, okay. Yeah. Because you guys, you sent us a picture of this tour bus. It's a legit rock star tour bus.

How long are you out there for us? Are you doing eight weeks? No, I'm doing three days because I'm a selfish asshole and I'm going to come home. They're doing eight, the rest of the crew is doing 88 days. on. Wow. Sleeping in a hotel.

Three month. Two of us during the day, we get to luxurious hotel with this one. Is Romanov out there with you? Was he on the bus? He sure is. Our director of photography from Extincter Alive, Mark Romanov is on the bus. He is spending a nice, huge amount of time in his bunk. Yeah.

Yeah. How many rooms are in this thing? Like how many beds and rooms are in there? There's 10 beds. They're all pretty secluded. It's, it's, it's. It's nice, man. I slept for four hours in my bed this morning because I accidentally OD'd last night.

And what happened? On what? Well, dude, because I had to get on the tour of us two days ago at 6 a.m. So that meant waking up at the time I go to bed every night. So I slept like 25 minutes the night before. So we drove to, I don't even, we stayed in Albuquerque last night. I get there. I'm like, I need sleep, man.

Like I got to get like six hours at least. Can't fall asleep. and not fall asleep. I'm like, and I'm so tired and sleep deprived that when I'm closing my eyes, I'm seeing like little like weird animals and like, I'm like, dude, I'm fucking going crazy, man. And so I bought, as forest knows, sometimes when we travel to foreign countries, we'll pick up like gas station drugs. So I bought this bottle of Xanax when we're in Mexico.

And I've taken Xanax maybe 10 times in my life, 0.25 milligrams, right? that's how much next I need to go to sleep for a long time. So like two hours before I need to wake up, I just like stumble into the bathroom. I'm furious. I'm just like, what the fuck? I don't know if I'll ever go to sleep again. So I go in, I open the bottle, and I take a pill, and it feels a little different, but it's pretty dark. And I just take it and I like sort of dissolves in my mouth and I swallow it.

And then about maybe 30 minutes later, I'm still not asleep, but I start feeling real weird, man. Like, really weird. Like, my body's, like, pulsating and I'm feeling kind of creeped out. So I'm like, what the fuck did I just do? So now I go and I turn the light on this time, they were two milligrams each. Oh, my God, eight times your normal amount? Yeah, like, eight, nine times what I've ever taken before. Now I've got to get up in an hour. So I was like, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I like, I find it funny that Xanax gave you a panic attack. The only person ever.

Yeah, so I slept an hour, woke up to the alarm, didn't even shower, just went straight into my bunk and had like the best five hours of sleep in a long time. That is what it does. I'm telling you, catnip is way better. You guys ever try catnip?

No. Like, yeah, Pat sticks it up as a red. Wait, what do you do with that? You smoke it. Well, you can make a tea out of it, but I soaked mine in like grain alcohol for a month. Nice. And then you make it.

make like a tincture and then you just take a dropper full, put it under your tongue and you go right out. I got some right here next to my bed. Damn. No shit. Wait, okay. Let me show you what looks like. I think the brosters might actually be interested in it. Yeah, this is. This is important. This is my

catnip tincture. I'll show you. And after a month, can you see that green it turns? That's the actual word. Yeah. Yeah. That's very green. And like, I would literally just take like this dropper full, shove it under my tongue, hold it there for like 30 seconds, swallow it. And I'll be out. Okay, wait.

I mean, it's not like drug, knock you out, like, but it's just set it. Natural. So real quick. Fantastic. In case the listeners, the brosters want to make, make this, how did you make it exactly? Well, I, so I grow catniff. But, I mean, I've never tried to use the, I've never tried to use, like, the stuff you get for cats at the store. I mean, it's the same thing, but I just like it when it's fresh, because you don't know how long that stuff has been kicking around.

But it's just, like, literally take a whole bunch of it, shove it in a jar, and, and, and, and, it's the same thing. and pour enough alcohol in there that it's completely covered and let it sit for a month. Shake it up every now and then. And then don't take too much of a drop or half a dropper full kind of thing. Yeah, and like when I strain it, I like either in cheesecloth press or I have like a fancy tincture press now where you really like compress the plant matter to force all of the nutrients out in the alcohol. And then you just have port in a bottle and you have this magical dropper full of sedative. I had no idea.

Oh, man. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to, I'll dope up for us tonight. He can let you guys know how to go. I'll give it a whirl. Oh, God.

I'd like you to try it tonight and then report back on the next pod, please. I don't, don't threaten me with a good time. I will try it. Don't threaten me with a good time. Real quick, guys, I hate to do this, but I think it is, I think it's time. Oh, boy. For what? Oh, tincture time.

Patrick. Royal. It's the battle. Tell Laura. Yeah. What do we got? Pat, you got something good on deck? I got something.

So Laura, you've obviously never listened to this podcast. You and literally everybody else. Mostly because I live under a rock for real. Fair enough. But so it's going to be the battle royal.

It's a little bit weird, but I think it's going to work really well. Not weird. So you have to, basically what we're going to do is we each, we're not doing a snake draft. many of us. Just going to go one at a time. So here's what we're going to do.

You have to survive in the Amazon jungle for a whole year. A whole year. Okay. You get to pick. So there can be repeat picks on this one. Two people that are on this current podcast and one one perfectly trained animal that will do whatever you ask it to do. You can communicate with it. If you wanted to go get a fish, it could do that.

All right. So two people that are on this podcast, one perfectly trained animal. But here's the thing. It's a whole year. So I, you know, mental health is going to be a big part of this. Yep. That's important. Yeah.

So anyway, that's, that's where we're going. Okay. So you pick, you pick two people on this podcast and one perfectly trained animal to survive. In the Amazon jungle, you know, like right the middle one. for a whole year. For a full year. Okay. Since I came up with this hideous.

Any questions, Laura? Laura, do you have to... No, I'm just really stuck on what animal I want. Okay, we'll let you go... We'll let you go later in the rotation. It's going to be any... Like, you don't actually have to be able to train this animal. It comes fully trained to you.

Fully trained. It's delivered by Amazon. Now, this animal has to be able to perform the tasks, right? Like, you're not saying, oh, I want a kangaroo that can catch fish, because that's nonsense, correct? then the listeners will vote you down. Good point. And it can't be like a dragon.

It has to be like a real animal. I've got to be alive today. All right. So I'm going to. Yeah. Can we start? Let's start with Will. I mean, I feel like

Oh, I'd hate to put Will right on the spot. But yeah, I'd love to put it on the spot. He's still put it right on me. Mine's easy. This is easy. I'm taking, certainly taking Peter and Patrick. You guys can just big. It's good entertainment.

It's hilarious. That's right. Yeah. Never be bored. Yeah. All that shit talking is. going to be great. And I'm definitely going to have a harpy eagle, like, just hawk, hawked out. It's a good. It's a good pick.

Well, Peter and I provide the entertainment. That's a power pick. He's got a giant eagle just swooping sloths and monkeys out of trees and dropping it in his lap. He's got YouTube buffoons to entertain him. Why not? Yeah. It's a good pick. By the way, you can repeat humans. You cannot repeat animals. That's a new rule that I've made. All right. I'm going to go next.

I'm going to take... All right. Let's happen. And I hate to be sort of basic here. I'm going to take Laura and Forrest. Because what they're going to do is they're going to help me stay alive, right? That's true. They're going to help provide water, shelter, food.

When my tummy hurts, I'm going to go to Forest in the middle of the night. I'll be there for you. These are things that I'm going to rely on them for. Now, Will went to the humans for entertainment. I'm going to the animal for entertainment. Okay. I'm going to bring an eight-month-old German shepherd puppy named Luca. My dog.

Luca de Luca. It's an outrage. Oh, because he's perfectly trained and you want your side that yours is a monster. I'm just only relying on because Lauren Forster there, I only need the animal for entertainment. So all Luca has to do is just be yourself. This is good. Okay. Well, I mean, so perfectly trained but might not survive a full year in the jungle.

I feel like you're going to have to take care of this dog. They're both animal lovers. They're going to make sure Luca's fine. I will be 100% sure that Luca is happy before Patrick. Luca's health is my primary concern. Leave it to Pat to bring, like, basically a dependent that needs full-time attention into the jungle. That's why I'm in two survival instead of one. Speaking of dependents, I will go next.

And my pick is going to surprise some people here. It's different. You're going to take old Retepp. I am. I am. Retef is my first pick. He is my draft number one. And I'll tell you why.

I will tell you why. Because my second pick is Laura. And here's the reason. Because my entertainment value is going to come from Peter's inability to accomplish anything. and Laura's frustration in trying to teach him how to do things that somehow is going to be intertwined to a mad and passionate romance that I will get to watch unfold. So you want to watch for?

Right in front of me. It's going to be this incredible, it's going to be like a sitcom, because there's going to be the big bumbling idiot, the hardcore, badass chick, they fall in love. It's going to be magical. And I'm just going to get to sit back and watch all of this in utter splendor.

I mean, it's just, it's really smart. It's going to be one of those one-hour dramas on NTC where it's like they're never going to get together. They're never going to get together. This is in a TV show, you idiots. Do I get to call him pig trash? Like, is that like? Of course. And at first you mean it, but by the end of the year, you guys are so willing love.

It's like a loving. Oh, my God. It's, yeah. It's God. Oh, man, it's going to be. What's your animal? You animal. So good to watch this.

I think you're going to. various trains that you're trying to be a pornography producer while in the jungle. I don't judge me. I don't judge me. I'm not. What animal for us besides the past. I'm trash. I'm taking a perfectly trained bull shark that will, uh, the only shark that can really

spend. There's no water. You're in the middle of the jungle. No, idiot. It's the Amazon jungle. There's tons of water. There's water everywhere. There's nothing but water.

I shouldn't question the bro. Yeah, come on. And this perfectly trained bull shark is, is going to hunt everything that cruises around the water. It's going to hunt Cayman for me. It's going to hunt fish for me. It's going to hunt anacondas. And it's also going to provide entertainment because I'm going to have a pet shark in the jungle.

So I'm just going to have all kinds of fun, silliness, entertainment, the pig trash and Laura romance. It's just, God, it's going to be an incredible year. You beat me already. Fair enough, man. All right, Rette, go next. Okay. Well, I mean, it's obvious which of the five.

of us I will be taking. I'll be taking myself, already included. I will be taking Laura and Will because I hate you to and it would be insane to try and deal with you guys in the middle of the jungle. I would end up probably killing you and that wouldn't be beneficial for any of us. So after that I'm going to bring an amazing animal that Forrest talks about on the podcast regularly. This animal is tough. This animal will perfectly train this animal is going to bring me fucking food. And Laura's an expert survivalist, so it wouldn't even matter technically.

Me and Will will be living in a great shelter that Laura has built. No offense, but we don't know what the fuck we're doing. And my perfectly trained hippopotamus will be out fucking just. And first of all, it will be defending the amazing structure that Laura has built. It will be a goddamn cat.

castle because nobody will be able to touch this thing for the whole year to this hippo. And the hippo, when we want it to, it will go out. It will retrieve food for us. It will do whatever the fuck we want. And by the way, if you guys are in the jungle with us at the same time, I will absolutely have my perfectly trained hippo find you and fan shit all over you and your shelter. And that's what I will be doing. It's good.

That's pretty good, Peter. meeting the guard hippo because there's so many people trying to tear down our shelter they're like put the guard hip out there and sabotage yeah it's a common problem surviving the amazon people are always trying to rip your shelter down we got this guard hitoff scare away trick your treaters yeah all right so laura

who are your two people and you're perfectly trained animal well i mean i feel like I know that Forrest is really going to provide him hoping he brings his goggles and actually uses them so I can be out in a survival situation with someone who uses their goggles. He's going to need him for the hippo shit. Yeah. Well, and I feel like now, you know, I just want to see how things pan out with pig trash. Yes. So.

Yeah. I love it. But what I'm really stuck on is like I'm trying to think, I mean, my initial thought, like, I was thinking, like, I was thinking. I was going to have a gigantic saltwater crocodile that somehow could also exist in the freshwater of the Amazon and that I could like make some kind of fashioned like rope kind of things that I could ride it and it could hunt fish. Because I could really cruise up and down the Amazon. Like if I had a crock that was trained that I could ride, it'd be like bigger than all the Cayman. I wouldn't have to worry about like a massive salty in there.

Being in trouble, we'd be top of the food chain. he'd catch fish, I'd ride it. But then I was like, man, how cool would it be? And then I couldn't think of what animal would serve this purpose. But if you had some kind of bird or something that was like a waterproofish animal that you could shelter under, then you'd have like a movable shelter, right? You'd be like, I'd shelter and it'd be like, and then you'd just like crawl under the wind. Like an enormous pelican that just puts its wings out. Or like an albatross?

Like, I don't know, like what would have the biggest wings that would really provide that service for me? By the way, you could also just stick it right in the water as the shelter and, like, put food right into the shelter. I mean, you, so I don't know. You guys are actually doing this, Peter. What? What is it? What are you talking? You guys shouldn't be, like, house hunting together right now.

You're not actually in the same state. She's trying to decide between the large bird or the crop. You don't get a saying. You're not married. What are you talking about? This is your name. battle royale and you literally lost i fucked up yeah i came in last on this one um wait so laura which is it is i guess i'm gonna go with the crock you know i just i wish dragons are real because then i would have like

this shelter and the fire part you know they're kind of great like that i'm crock unfortunately they're not you know i like it i like it's cool i probably put the crock all right so listen by the way i just got to say real quick didn't even realize thank you laura that i can also ride my perfect trained hippo wherever the fuck I want in the water. For sure. You just get a room already. Like there's three other people on this podcast. This is exhausting.

I didn't know this is what I was starting. You've watched too much cinemax. All right. If you enjoyed. Wrap it up. Yeah, look, if you enjoyed tonight's Battle Royale or our... First video podcast. What?

First video podcast. Yes. Or you enjoyed our first video podcast, which is over the Zoom types of software. Please go on to iTunes. Leave us a five-star review. And, you know, tell us who won the Battle Royale. Was it was it me with the incredible romance? Was it Peter just picking literally anybody but Patrick and I? Was it Will's great pick? I mean, he has a Harpy Eagle on his team. That's big time. You know, just why don't you just leave us a review, let us know what you think. We'd love to hear from you. And before we say good night, we'd like to tell you about a little drinking game

that one of the brosners brought up. Yep, Peter. Cheers, man. Raise your glass. We're doing this. We will raise our glass. But Peter, would you tell us, would you read off the drinking game for everybody to, uh, to get involved?

I will. Let me get it up. Why don't you tell people all of our bullshit where they can. Oh, wait. So wait, where will the video podcast be posted? Will. The video is going to be on, yeah, ask Will. Will, we'll know.

YouTube. Oh, we're doing a YouTube thing. We have a YouTube. I think we need to. Sweet. Yeah, for sure. I mean, we're pretty popular. Remember when we were like 50th in Canada and comedy or wherever the fuck it was?

Like, we're pretty cool. Will is redoing our whole YouTube. We're going to have a live, our videos up there, actual videoed podcast at Wild Times Pod. Follow us there. Don't forget to check out Laura. Laura, where can people find you? I'm most active on Instagram. Um, wow, it's kind of so professional.

Uh, it's just at Laura Zara. My name. How Zara spelled? Like, like the store, like the Italian fine clothing store? Never mind. That's Zara. Oh, okay. Sorry.

Uh, um, it's D-E-R-R-A. Sweet. It's kind of like zebra, but you change the B into a second R. This is too confusing. It's like, it's not. So it's Laura Zebra with two R's instead of a B. And Laura, Laura is launching her own podcast. This might be a little pre-ebrose.

empty. Oh, hell yeah. She's doing a badass survival outdoor podcast that Laura is launching. So people should definitely tune into her stuff, follow along with her, and be able to listen to what she's got going on. Sweet. Stay tuned. More details released in the future. Have you got a name yet for it? I'm working on it because there's, yeah, it'll come out. Nothing's set in stone yet. All right. So what's this drinking game? Because we're going to do this live next time we're all together. So the Wild Times podcast drinking game. This was suggested on Instagram by underscore It's underscore Lucas.

Thank you for this. You are very muscular and look great in your profile picture. This is the Wild Times drinking game. There are 11 rules. The first rule, when you hear one of us say this just came across my desk, you drink. Nice. Good rule. When Taco Bell is mentioned,

you drink. Okay. If at any point shirts become optional or if they were optional when the podcast started, you drink. If Patrick has a drink delivered to him by anybody, you drink. Peter and Forrest, or it says Peter and Forrest share an intimate best friend story about a time on an expedition. I think it's supposed to say Pat and Forrest actually perform coitus on one another on air.

Have a drink. Forrest and Patrick Adlin Forrest and Patrick gang up on Peter during Battle Royale That includes the guests If the guests gang up on Peter You have a drink

Peter makes a good pick on Battle Royale You know what this one is guys You finish your whole fucking drink Because it never happens That's like the rare That's why it's finish your drink Because it never happens Listen our listeners

Our brosners Are smart enough to know that the thing is, is that it happens every podcast. What are the other rules? Any mention of fish or spear fishing. Talk of a five-star review or listener comments. Peter gets way too loud and consumed with emotion. Forest blows your mind with biology facts.

If you hear it, you drink. And it's Lucas played it through three episodes and got absolutely smashed. He challenges all of you, Brosner's, give it a shot. pun intended. Love that. It's Lucas. That is great. We're going to be doing that.

The next time we're all together, we're going to be playing that game ourselves on air. And until then, good night. Good night. Thanks, Laura. Good night. Thank you guys.