Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Missing Great White Sharks Are FOUND! - The Wild Times Ep. 129.5

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

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You guys might have heard we've talked about this on the pod before. South Africa's great white sharks. They've been under massive pressure from Port and Starboard, those two infamous orcas that have been hammering the white sharks, right? I haven't heard about that. this. What happened? We talked about it extensively. We did? I usually listen. I find that hard to believe. In South Africa, which has always been the hub in Kanzbai for Great White Sharks, right? It's where all the air jaw stuff happens. It's, you know, it's incredible. In the last four or five years, two orcas,

two brothers named Port and Starboard moved in and just started hammering the white sharks, killing all the white sharks, eating their livers, like killing them for fun. Jesus. Yeah, gnarly, gnarly stuff. And, you know, a lot of people in South Africa thought that the Great White Sharks were gone. Because you go to Seal Island now, there's not a white shark to be seen. You put bait out for 10 hours. Nothing shows up. And it's all because of these two orcas, right? So this led to a significant decline in the white sharks to the point that everybody thought they were gone. And, you know, keep in mind, as I explained the story, keep in mind, great white sharks like cold water. Right? That's why they're near Cape Town. That's why they're

In False Bay and Hansby is because they like that cold, rich water upwelling lots of seals and sea lions. So when the orcas moved in, which typically also like pretty chilly water, they're like, oh, the white sharks are gone. They've removed them. Right. Well, here's the kicker. Just found them. They found them. They found them where they evacuated to?

They found where the white sharks went. Wow. Get this. South Africa is incredible. One of the reasons it's so diverse is two oceans meet there, right? The Indian, the Atlantic Ocean. Okay. And you have super freezing cold water from the Atlantic and super warm hot water from the Indian.

And it meets there. And so nobody thought for the life of them that the sharks would move east into the warm water. It doesn't make sense. White sharks don't like warm water. It speeds up their metabolism. They didn't even look there for them. It just doesn't make sense. They need to eat more.

It speeds up their metabolism. The water's too warm. There's not enough seals or sea lions there because they're on the cold water side. Sure enough, off the coast of Kuzulu Nattel, Elgoa Bay. bam there they are whole giant population of giant white sharks wow that's crazy coordinated relocation so this is going to cause all sorts of issues right for sure with them moving into a new areas where humans have used the waters and don't you know don't expect a bunch of white sharks now when you will when you look at white shark tracking data you see that they move from cape town

you know up into the indian ocean a little bit and then back down but the fact that that they're like hanging out in Quasuli Natal in the Indian Ocean is crazy especially like in the area Algoa Bay and stuff where people like to swim and surf it's like a tr-summer you go for your tropical holiday right? Sure yeah yeah yeah go to nice warm clear water have a swim now there's a whole bunch of giant white sharks there which yeah like you said it's gonna call us significant ecological changes. Will they attack humans? I mean like are will they will they interfere with the humans or will they kind of stay back out of the out of their way? Oh no I mean I mean I would think You know, look, first of all, I'm not going to paint white sharks in white. No, 100%. Don't do that. They're going to start attacking humans.

Right. But they're in an area that has far less prey density for what they're used to eating. Sure. And humans look very much like their main prey, sales and sea lions. And they're in an area where humans are less accustomed to shark human interactions. Right. So they're not used to being like, oh, well, don't swim here. Shouldn't be out at dusk.

Shouldn't be out at dawn. You know, they're in an area where people go to have their tropical holiday. So I don't know how close into. sure they are, but my guess is you will see some problems in the future. Interesting. All because of these two orcas who are just like, yeah, this is great. They're pricks. Port and Starboard.

Are they still there? Still there? Oh, yeah, roaming around. I saw them when I was there in February. Dude, I? Really? Yeah. Filmed them. Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah. I think that the orcas are really starting to come together and figure out that they hate humans because not only is this happening, but they've also been attacking humans on the regular. In Spain, they've been the, what is it, Gulf of, not a Mon, what's it called? Gulf of Gibraltar. Yeah, they've been attacking those sailboes. I mean, I'm not even kidding. It's kind of fucked up.

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But, yeah, it's pretty crazy. When you went and saw them, were you actually looking for them? No. So it's funny, we sold the... Discovery Channel Shark Show, and it was about the seven gills. So the orcas, now that they've knocked down all of the white sharks, they've moved on to killing the seven gills. Type in seven gills up there, Kyle, Port and Starboard's seven gills. And you'll see, they're doing these massive killing sprees, like 30, 40, 7 gills a day. Big piles, I guess

they're not done any of the picks of the piles, but they're killing these seven gills. And so we're like, oh, let's go see if we can find what's going on with the seven gills, how that's altering their behavior. And the network was like, oh, it'd be so cool. if you got port and starboard and filmed them. I'm like, I'm not going to find two orcas in a 400 mile wide bay. Like, shut up. Day five,

but it would be cool. Day five right next to the boat. I'm in the water and Mitch goes, I think I just saw an orca. I'm like, shut up, Mitch. You always say such stupid things, like get out of the water during that lightning storm.

And sure enough, like two minutes later, right next to the boat, the two of them. And they're very distinguishable. They're called port and starboard because one's fin goes port and the other goes starboard. Did they come right up next to the boat? Were they checking it out?

So they get harassed a shitload because where we were is right by where all the white sharks are tourism is. So the fishermen hate them. So they like throw stuff at them and chase them with boats and stuff. But they came probably 40 feet from our boat. Dude, it's a fucking war with the orcas. Oh yeah, big time. We got them on drone. We got them on camera.

We didn't get them underwater. We tried. But it was awesome. Dude, it's crazy to think about this animal behavior that that's happening. This is so complex that, I mean, you would never. Somebody who's a layman and doesn't know that much about animals, to think that this is happening in the world outside of the human population is fucking fascinating. It's nuts.

It's crazy. Anyway, that's the biggest news that I saw this week. I thought it was pretty sweet. So, did you say that they're killing the sharks for fun? Everything. Yeah.

They're just, it's like two brothers, right? They're bachelors. They're two bros. I'm not joking. I was going to ask her, like a mating pair or something?

Just bros. Literal brothers. Literal brothers. Two bros that are just cruising around And they're just they are eating a lot of the shark livers But nothing else And they're just doing it for fun What's up with that?

What's up with them eating the livers? Is that highest nutrient density Highest amount of fat Best form delicious You know that's just what they're choosing to go for So they'll kill an entire 16 foot great white shark And surgically remove the liver with their teeth Chew a few bites of it and be like

And that was fun let's go do it again Wow man it's so crazy Yeah it's like the bear with salmon Like they're in the salmon spomer. It's like, yeah, liver, eggs. They're so smart. Hey guys, if you're enjoying, whoops.

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Link right here. I saw another good news story yesterday coming out of Africa as well that I was pretty excited about. The first time, I think, in 50 or so years, rhino populations are on the up. Interesting. Really?

I was really, really excited about it. Has to be just because of like protection efforts? Yeah, anti-poaching. Yeah. So I don't know. I see if Kyle can find the news story. Africa's white rhino population rebounds for first time in a decade new figure shows. So 5.2% increase between 2021 and now, which is fantastic.

I thought the white rhino was only left with the two females. The northern white rhino. So there's northern and southern white rhino. And the southern population is only 5% up or so. But that's really good. It's better than the down. So it's 5% up rather than being 20% down. Which it has been year after year.

And the population's up to around 16, 17,000 individuals, which is, it might sound like a lot. It's not for rhinos, but it's great. I mean, it's just good news. It's nice to see happy news. Most of the news you see around poaching and animals like rhinos is just like, oh, it's the end, it's the end. Right. So I was really happy to see that. One of the things they're doing is actually going and tranquilizing the rhinos and actually taking the horns.

Yeah. So that poachers don't kill them for the horn? Yes, but it's such a mess because... They kill them anyways. They kill them anyway. Just to spite that effort. But it's not even just to spite it. What happens is you have, let's say, 10 rhino in this huge 100,000 acre park.

Yeah. The poachers will spend five days tracking a rhino and get there and it's been dehorned. Two things. One, they're going to kill it so they don't ever have to spend five days tracking it again because they're at such high risk while tracking it. And two, when you dehorn a rhino, you still leave like a... giant a disc like that big because you can't cut it out of its skull right right and even that disc is worth retiring for if you're a poachery right so it does help for sure and if if you're like

oh this entire park is dehorned the likelihood that they're going to fuck with you is pretty slim yeah they're not even come over to that right it's not worth it but still it's it's not exactly like a fantastic you know proven methodology one that was that for some reason got outlawed which honestly infuriated me because i thought it was brilliant was they were putting putting cyanide in the rhino horns. And it had no ill effect on the rhinos because it's just a big fingernail. Yeah.

And then it would get ground up into dick pills or whatever and you'd have these Chinese businessman dropping dead in China. Man, what's the, what's the downside of that? Yeah. Don't take these rhino pills. I know. I thought that was fantastic. Also, everybody involved in the entire operation should eat fucking cyanide.

Sinai arsenic, whatever you want to put in there. Yeah, exactly. Do they use Fleer drones? Like, I feel like, yeah, they're using thermosynexia. Drones. So it's tough for a poacher to use a drone because it's, you can hear it, you can see it. Oh, yeah, no. Same for the anti-poaching units.

Yeah. And it's why, like, you know, we have always got special permissions when I've worked in Africa to get thermal drones in. But the drone regulations in Africa are bonkers. It's so difficult to deal with them. Do the, is the anti-poaching movement, like, growing stronger and stronger? I think so. The next generation of Asian people that have these beliefs, mostly Chinese and Vietnamese, like our age and younger.

I don't think they're falling into this the way that their parents did and grandparents did, right? I think there's enough education now. There will always be those extremists no matter what, right? Of course. But I think there's enough education and understanding now that, like, hey, it's literally a fingernail. It's not going to make my dick bigger. And it's incredibly frowned upon globally. And just because grandpa did it and dad did it doesn't mean I need to do it.

It's the same way. It's like the same thing as racism. It's like, yeah, well, we were all racist. back then, but I'm done with that. Even just conservation and global warming and everything, the younger generation understands, like, hey, if we keep doing this stuff, we're going to

we're not going to have anywhere for our kids to be, you know? Right, right, right. So that's good. I mean, that's good to hear that. But I do like the thought of the poachers out there actively being hunted down. And you know what's crazy is like, so that's

overall, right? But then you look at places that are really, really vast that have much less enforcement like Namibia. Namibia is home to the world's largest black rhino population. So a 93% increase in poaching. You know, so it's like, oh, well, we're not able to get them over in South Africa because of these measures and protections. Let's shift over to Namibia.

93% increase in postage. Now, I mean, dude. But that'll come and then the regulation will come there and enforcement will come. And, you know, it's a fight. You have to keep fighting. So another new story that I saw that was interesting is like, because you read stuff, And then you're like, oh, I wonder how that's going to affect certain things. Yeah.

Remember how we were talking about, like, how the water in, like, Biscayne Bay and some of those parts of Florida was over 100 degrees on the golf side? Causing big die-offs and whatnot? Yeah, so, like, you know it's going to affect seagrasses and corals. But one thing that they're now seeing is with that increase in the water temperature, these huge algae blooms are starting. And so they're starting to find that a ton of the seabirds, are dying of botulism. Oh, interesting. Because those algae blooms somehow produce

the botulism toxin. Interesting. Wow. And so they're like, oh, shit. Like, yeah. This is another thing. Everything. Like, now the seabirds are all dying of botulism.

It's all, like, it's all chain reaction. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. It's all very connected. It's also interesting, just like the way that humans have moved water around. Yeah. And gotten involved in, like, how water moves.

It all runs together. And you're like, oh, right, because they're farming. you know, soybeans, potatoes. You're getting all the stuff that's killing the

coral in the ocean. And the kind of the sad thing too is that, you know, this can all, like all of the agriculture that we do to,

we can do enough to sustain literally the entire world, every human being on it. Yeah. With way less than what we do. It's just,

there's so much waste and there's so much like non-change of the systems, even though we, we advance the technology and the, science and we know things, people just stick to the old way of doing things. And it just

was a ton of energy and of everything. I mean, the algae thing, when I was in Mexico back in 2017 or 60, I can't remember. But the entire coast of Mexico was just covered in algae. They had like nets up to keep it. The sargassum? I'm pretty sure it was a sargassum. Yeah. I mean, it might be different, but the fact of the matter is, is like, the algae was like insane. It's supposed to be these beautiful, clear, warm, tropical waters. I get there, like, half the resort, nobody's there, first of all, because they don't want to come, because they're using literal payloaders to get this algae. And it stinks.

It's rots. It stinks. It creates flies. Yeah, it's a huge problem. And they tried to cover it up big time because they want people to still go there. I get it. But it's like, this is what we're doing the world, man. I went to this place called, it's beautiful, called Wakaobie Dive Lodge in Indonesia.

this was 10, 15 years ago. And every morning, pre-dawn, there was five guys out on the beach cleaning up the plastic because the plastic would wash in. Because where Wakatobi is in Indonesia, the currents funnel in from like India and Jakarta. Oh, man. And literally, you'd wake up and if you got up pre-dawn, which I was old jet lag, so I'd get up, you know, like all hours of the night. It was just a blanket of plastic garbage.

And by the time you woke up and we're sitting at breakfast overlooking, it was a pristine white beach because they just have 20 guys out there picking up raking all of the plastic garbage and then, you know, hiding it so that you could think that it was just perfect. It's sad, man. It's the, it's the crying Indian on the side of the road of 2023, man. The visuals of like the plastic, just an entire beachfront covered in plastic bottles and shit, you know? Anyway. Yeah, no, not to be a downer.

No, it's good. It's good to talk about, though. Yeah. No, I say, but yeah, sometimes you can. Yeah. Once in a while. But it is, it is interesting, though, right? So, like, one of the projects I'm working on, a TV project is very largely, it's sort of a

very conservation forward. Uh-huh. Nice. Which they're very hard to do. Very. Right. It's a, I literally, you probably were in the meeting with me. I remember being told, don't say the word conservation in network meetings.

Oh, yeah. You started the podcast, literally. Seriously. Oh, I mean, when I did that, the show in Greenland, that the premise of the show was the ice sheet receding and so new land is being accepted. exposed. We're not allowed to say why the ice sheet was proceeding. Just that's why she's pulling back.

But so, but it is interesting, like with this show, even though it's sort of conservation forward, you have to be really careful about not just going grim, grim, grim. No, right? It's like, hey, here's an issue.

And then it's like, but here's all the stuff that's cool that's being done to combat it. Yeah. Like, you know, because otherwise you're just going to lose people. It's like, you know, Yeah, it's depressing.

Nobody wants to hear it. It's a page turner. You don't want to look at the doom and gloom and go, oh, let me tune in and hear about how the world's going to end. Right. Like, yeah, fuck that. There also is so much exciting stuff in the animal world. Like, even on the podcast and, you know, the shit that I, when we went to AnimalCon, there's so much like excitement and exciting, happy things going on in the animal world as well. So when you get in like a rut, you can get in a rut of anything.

You watch the news, dude. You'll just be depressed all day. Of course. Yeah. So we keep it even keel hair. That's what the news thrives on. Exactly. Like how do we shock and awe you?

I mean, dude, how do we ruin your life? It's a whole strategy. It became huge in the 1950s and 60s of marketing. Yeah. Like a very prevalent strategy is to scare you. Yeah. Right.

And scare you that if you miss out, it's not even just fear of missing out. It's like these are big threats to you. You need to know about these things. and if you don't hear about them, you will die. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So speaking of that, what are you got, sir? Last night, three in the morning. Mm-hmm. All the fire alarms in my house, they're all gang together. Okay. Right. Fancy. So, yeah.

Well, it's, you know, it's a newer construction, right? Right. So they all start going off and a voice starts saying fire, fire detected. Oh, God. Fire, fire detected. What was your first move? What was your first move? I, like, jumped out of a voice.

bed, I keep my, uh, that giant Satan light next to my bed. Yeah, smart. Turned that on, uh, just went out and just like ran out and like, check the house. Did you think it was legit or do you think it was a false alarm right off the bat? No, I thought it was legit. I was just because it's saying there's a fire really loud. Especially when the machine's actually saying fire. Fire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Different to like, beep, beep, beep. Exactly. Is it my alarm or the car. Something's on fire. Check the kids room, whatever. Go around. There's no fire in the house. no fire in the garage. I'm like, what the hell?

Go around the side. I looked in the crawl space. No fire. But started getting me thinking. And then I couldn't fall back asleep. I don't own a fire extinguisher. It's like, what would you have even done? Yeah, what do you do at that point?

Just throw paper towels at it. Yeah. Do you have a fire extinguisher in your house? No, I don't. Do you? No. They're $20. Yeah.

And they're good for six to 10 years. And no one owns one. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, there could have been a fire that I, could have burned my house down that if I just spent $20 on Amazon, I could have fixed that. It's the dumbest thing in the world.

So what's the key move? You run to the sink and get a pot of water and throw it on something. I guess. You got to go to the tub, dude. You got to get the tub. You got to fill it with the tub. But dude, you're right, man. And I do think about these things sometimes.

I'm like, oh, I don't have a fire extinguisher. Because I've seen, like, I've watched in movies and stuff. You see how a fire spreads. Like, it'll catch. It's very controllable. But if you don't have a fire extinguisher, Like, you can do nothing. You're just like, let me just run out of the house and get my pets and my kid and get the fuck out of here.

I know a guy that had a break in into his house in the middle of the night, lives in West Hollywood, lives in a, like, first story apartment. And he, the guy came into his room and he sprayed the guy with the fire extinguisher and they ran out. Really? Yeah. It has a second purpose. Yeah, exactly. I like that.

And it's a big red metal thing that you can bomb someone with. Yeah, if you hit somebody with a fire extinguisher, they're down. Well, yeah. First, you spray him in. face, then you conk them on the head. Yeah. We're not sponsored by fire extinguisher. Not yet.

Not yet. Just brackish bow ties. That's interesting. I hadn't really thought of that. I probably should get a fire extinguisher, all things considered. I have still need fucking plugs and heat lamps and shit plugged in everywhere. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Your house is fire hazard. Well, and I was thinking as I was like, it's in the crawl space. I'm like, I don't know anything about what's going on down there. There's wires everywhere. There's gas lines. I'm like, it's definitely the crawl space. There's probably just a little gnome with a sparker. At all times.

At all times. Did you see the NFL player is a tight end for the Browns that literally burned his face off? What? What happened? He just was lighting his fire pit at night. Like two days before the game, burned his face off, played in the game. Oh, my God. Yeah, it looks like a beast there.

Oh, he's a monster, David and Joku. But there's a picture of his face, Kyle. Wow. But just something is innocuous. It's just like, look at the one to the far right there. Holy shit. What a nightmare. Oh, he's gotten a lot better.

Oh, that was bad. Yeah, but just lighten a fire pit. I did something pretty similar to one of my best friends in college. God, you're the worst. Of course you did. So my buddy Tommy Dutra, RIP. Really? Yeah, he passed away in a rock climbing ice.

I didn't kill him. No. Okay, okay, good. One of my best friends ever, he, his 21st birthday, we were at his house in Isla Vista, and we line up all this 151, light it all on fire, and I'm like, flaming shots. I've never done a flaming shop before. Are your ad campaigns lighting up the dashboard, but not the pipeline?

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Comfort details. Didn't know you could. Yeah, well, there you go. And he's like, how do you do it? I'm like, I don't know. I think you just drink it. Oh, God. So he's like, all right, let's go.

So he grabs it and goes, he doesn't blow it out. Yeah, you got to blow it out. I would. I didn't know this. Yeah, so he goes like that, and it catches his lips on fire, and he's got like a stubble beard like you. Oh my God. He catches his whole fucking beard on fire in his face.

Jesus Christ. And his whole face is like glowing fire. And I grab a kitchen towel, like slap him in the face with it, which put it out. but he got like third degree burns or second degree burns like all over his face and mouth and I had to rush him to the ER. Kyle appears to have pulled up a video.

Oh my God! It wasn't quite like that. You can't play this on air. Oh, God, we can't put this on air. How did this happen? We can't put that on air. What are you talking about? Flaming shots gone wrong.

That's at a restaurant. The server is serving them and catches a later. That's what happens though. So the 151 just is so flammable. Yeah, it's the most flammable thing in the world. I got a friend named. Yeah, that's what happened to Tommy.

That exact thing you just saw. Go back, show that one again. This is it. Oh, my God. Because he spits it out too. That's exactly what happened to my buddy. And it goes all over your face. Dude, I got one to a less degree.

My buddy George bag in high school, there was an infamous video that went around our circle. Okay. And he did the 151 or the Everett. I can't remember, but did the same thing in the shock glass and then took a sip of it and just flamed down. Like, just like it's insane.

Here's a good thing to do is if you want to get drunk, just don't light it on fire. Don't let your shot on fire. It's that simple. Drink it. Get drunk. A couple of middle-aged old men who don't know of fun. I'd still do a flaming shot right now.

You would? Of course. Listen, you still got to do that spicy chip challenge. We're making Kyle do it. Don't tell him. Oh, shit. He won't do it. I'm going to put it on his nuts ag.

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How do you do that? Is there some sort of badge system? There's a badge system, a loyalty badge. Boom! Shows up next to your name in the comments. Boom. We read the comment. All this badge talks, I'm going to the badge store.

He's going to get a badger. He's going to buy one, didn't earn it. He's going to buy one. He did a fake leave. I assumed Kyle would know to cut on the motion. All right, let's cut now. That's our ad. Yeah, let's get into Browser DMs.

We haven't done that in a hot. I want to see if you know these answers. All right, let's do it. From Brandon. Is it true that sharks give birth in shallow waters to stay away from bigger predators? Of course. That's why mangrove estuaries exist. They go into those nice estuaries where it's safe and there's no predators and they pop and then they head back out.

Oh, that's interesting. Makes total sense. Why wouldn't it? Mangrove estuaries are those human built? No, no. So those exist and then they've just learned to go in there and get buried? Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's why they exist. But in a mangrove in an estuary, that's one of the main nurseries for all fish and sharks.

They'll go in there because it's got all these buttress roots to hide in. Shallow, there's no big predators, and they'll pup and cruise back out. Well, you're talking to a guy who doesn't even know what a mangrove is. Is that a fruit? It's a tree. It's a tree. It's a saltwater tree. Does it produce a fruit?

No, impossible. No, it doesn't produce. The only impassable terrain. There's two types of mangroves. This is pretty interesting. So mangrove is a tree, like a tree you see out Patrick's window there, that grows in the salt water. Okay. How do you think a tree can cope with salt?

It has to have some kind of mechanism that filters it out. Two kinds. Excluders and excretors. Okay. So excluders have such water-type bark and roots and everything that they can actually exclude the salt from entering into their system. Which is an insane thing to think if you think that trees breathe through their bark. Yeah, it really is crazy. And then even crazier, in my opinion, is excreters, which will take in salt water, ocean water, filter it, and then push the salt back out so that they get fresh water from the sea.

Bro, that's crazy. And it's a tree. We're talking about a tree. Humans have been trying to do that without success for like seven decades. Pretty amazing. Why aren't they looking at these damn trees? I know. It's pretty cool.

All right. What else we have, Kyle? Hey, bro. I just wanted to get your opinion. This was Nate Roper, friend of the pod. I love it. Yeah. I wanted to get your opinion on all of the bonkers weather it's been going on around the world.

I saw a flood pick up a corolla and sweep it away like it was Retepp with a taco drunk on a Thursday night. Great comment. I'm just glad you read the comment. I don't know that there's a take to be had. It's just a great comment. Yeah. There's something about comparing the taco to the corolla that really warms the cockles in my heart. It doesn't matter who you are.

It doesn't matter what you believe in. Weather events are getting stronger. Yeah. In fact. Spires are getting more severe. it can be human-induced, climate-induced, call it whatever you like. I don't care if you're religious, not religious,

believe in global warming. Don't believe in global warming. I don't care. Just look at the stats. Weather events are getting stronger. Storms are getting stronger. Floods are getting more intense. Fires are getting hotter.

Doughts are getting drier. Dumps are getting wetter. It's happening. We've been out, I've been out here for about 13, 14 years now. And we just went in Southern California through a five-year, like a drought that was every year. It was like, oh, now it's, like an extreme drought.

Right. Oh, now it's like 100 on the scale of drought. And then just boom, fucking rains, the rainiest season we've had in like 100 years. It was phenomenal. I love how much you're doing. And now we're getting destroyed by invasing mosquitoes. I complain about it on every podcast until somebody does something.

I mean, it's also interesting to think about like going way back to like the mini ice age and like some of those things. And it's like, oh, humans were living in societies. Right. I never thought of that. Like they just, an ice age came. Dude. Where the entire planet got cold. Just froze over. Yeah.

It's crazy. It's going to happen again. Absolutely crazy. I mean, it happened, what, 13,000 years ago? Right. There were, you know, cities essentially. The problem too, though, just with us humans is like, we don't like to, well, I'll say this.

Only a small percentage of us are willing to or like to acknowledge that these things are happening. and want to, like, tackle the problem. The other 99% are like, eh, like, I'm good now. I mean, dude, I'm guilty of it. Don't, you know, I'm not out there fucking coming up with any solutions. There's a huge percentage of it that you can do something about. But then there's also, like, there are just, like, massive global weather events that, you know, aren't due to, that was, that wasn't because of anything, humans.

Right. Right. Right. How do you even discern the two? Like, how do you do it? But that's why I'm saying, it doesn't matter what you believe or what your hypothesis is, it's the weather is changing. And it always will be, by the way. Yeah.

It's always changing. I was going to say it's like even if we even, okay, so global warming is real. I do believe that man-made global warming. It's definitely like doing it faster, making it worse. But so if it's going to happen anyways, right? Like are we, how do you fix the problem if it's going to happen anyways? Is it really worth? Well, no.

The argument is that we're speeding it up so much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can't stop an asteroid from hitting the earth. That's true.

Are we allowed to show these, Kyle? I'd love to go through these. I always love these. Sorry. I think we could show, just show them quickly. Yeah, you can flash to him. All right, so, Kyle, I just interrupted Patrick. I didn't mean to.

I just got excited because I saw. What Kyle has pulled up here is the Wildlife Photographer of the Year winners. Yeah, I think we did this last year too. Did we? Yeah. I love this contest. Let's scroll through them real quick. Oh, I've seen this photo on social lately.

It's fantastic. What is that? That is a horseshoe crab with three little pilot fish above it. Dude, the lighting on that is majestic. Yeah, it's phenomenal. It's a great photo. Yeah.

Look at those little... So far, that has my vote. One for one, no question. I love how you can see the little dimple on it, too. It's so, like... It doesn't even look like a living thing. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, it's a perfect image.

Cool. Next one. Do they give descriptors? What's it say there, Kyle? A horseshoe? Crab. Well, nobody can hear him, so... Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Just curious.

So these are the finalists out of 50,000 entries. Wow. Dude, that's a beautiful picture. Incredible. This is a photo of the Zin Desert in Israel. Yep. And what do you got there? What are those animals there? I'm not sure. Some mountain goats.

Those are Nubian Ibex. Oh, the Ibex, yeah. Very cool. Nubian Ibex battling on top of a mountain. Yeah, and you see the one going into hit. Look at that nuts on that. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Those are solid testes. That's real nice. You think it keeps that thing trimmed? I actually like this guy. I like this photo better in a horseshoe crab. I mean, do this is like the background in this photo is amazing. It's perfect. All right, what's next?

By the way, if you're just listening, you got to come. What's the time? Come and look at this right now. What do we have here? So I don't see any wild. Oh, I see them. Oh, the owls. Yeah, look at that.

Two barred owls, I think. Sitting in the window of an abandoned building that says fuck on it. Or I should just say says FCK on it. What are, what's the like laser light? pen going through. It's got to be a car going through the frame. Ah, okay. So, so without the the car streak of light on this,

this isn't making it in, right? I agree. Yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point. I guess. Ibix, for me, goes higher than... Ibex. Ibex is in the lead. Yep. It's real cool. The old picture's cool, but you know, come on. Oh, that was the young wildlife. Oh, that's pretty cool. I think it's like under 13 or something like that. 15 to 17.

That's damn impressive for it is. Yeah. For an amateur. It is. sure. Absolutely. Wow. All right. What have got next here? This looks like an x-ray of my inners after I ate a toy car.

It's a bunch of bird poop in Scotland with Gannets sitting in the corner and the bird poop has kind of painted the rocks to be. Dude, holy shit. I did not really think this was a photograph. My mind has been trying to process it. Really? It looks like a chalkboard with a drawing on it. Oh, interesting.

Yeah. So it's black and white. The gannets are obviously super white. The bird poop is super white. white and then the lava rock super black. Wild, dude. Have you seen the pictures of those islands in Scotland where the entire island looks like it's covered in snow and it's just cornerent?

I've stood on islands like that in Bahamas. Have you seen a cormorant poop? I've been pooped on by many parts. It like rockets out like a super soapy. Yeah. It's like what my new daughter does. I would just when like we had downtime in the Galapagos, I would just stand by the cormorants and just watch them rocket poop everybody.

It's really, really impressive. Yeah. Do they actually get propelled forward? Oh, dude. Like straight vertical. Yeah. No, it's like, remember like a Super Soaker 100? Yeah. That's what the stream looks like.

Oh, yeah. X. The one. Ibex is number one. No question. What are we have? Fireflies, I'm guessing. I'm guessing. is all generated by insect bottoms. Yeah, dude. Gotcha. It's cool. It just to me looks a bit like mustard got squirted on a photo. Yeah, it's not doing it for me.

I appreciate it, but it's not doing it for me. That's in last. And mustard. That's in dead last. Now that's cool. That's cool. Is that a mushroom? What is that? Mushroom with backlighting with the spores coming out underneath it.

See the spores getting released into the atmosphere? Oh, shit. That's awesome. And that's timed very, very specifically. because they open the veil and drop the spores for minutes. You know, it's not like that happens, like, all the time. So there's obviously a breeze picking up those spores. Does it say how long the exposure was here?

It's also just... That's a parasol mushroom releasing its spores. Very cool. It makes me want to eat. I'm still going to IBEX, even though this was probably a harder picture to get. The timing of the Ibex is one in a million. Yeah, I'm still Ibex, though, for sure. It's weird for me because, like, the last three have looked almost like paintings.

But that's why they're winning. It's hard to even compare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Them to like the IBEX. Agreed. All right. Next. Any more?

Oh, I think this is Bertie Gregory's photo. Oh, man. It is, right? Yeah, I saw Bertie Post. Oh, it says his name right there. Yeah, I saw Birdie Post this. So these, Bertie Gregory's a famous wildlife photographer, videographer. He's really talented young guy.

Yeah. What are going on here? You've got three orcas doing, I forget what the behavior is called, but it's in Antarctica. It's the only place they do this where they're going to create a wave to knock the seal off of the iceberg. Those motherfers. fuckers, dude. They're so clever. Sorry. Cut that out. Oh, cool. I didn't know that.

So the bubbles are, you know, Morse code to communicate to tell them. You know, they're sneaking up on that seal. That seal doesn't know they're there. And then they're about to just wave wash him and then he's going in the mouth. Yeah. Okay, so in the picture, if you're only listening, they have bubbles coming out from from their mouths or wherever

their blow holes in a sequence that they're communicating with each other through, which is, and if you see the picture, come and look at it, it's clearly like has a sequence that they're all matching. It's probably the equivalent of going, okay. One, yeah, two, splash. Yeah. Dude, that is wild, man. Very cool.

This might take it over for me. That's fantastic. The symmetry is amazing. I will say this. If you had to have one hanging on your wall. Ivex. Yeah, that's tough. This is cool.

If I'd have one hanging on a giant, pretty. until my wall it's ibex followed by mushroom spores for me right now okay well i could see that but this is such a conversation piece that i would want this like hanging in the office exactly all right next what are those bird butts bird butts five bird butts five little bird butts what are they are uh this was taken in french guiana some what's the bird trumpeters speak up sir yeah he didn't he didn't look like some form of pheasant but um yeah yeah truette he didn't he didn't know A pheasant, but, yeah, trumpeters. I don't get it.

Why is this, I mean, it's okay. What's what's going on? I don't really get it. Interesting. All right, next pick. That's pretty amazing. That's pretty awesome. Oh, what is that forest with the horns on them?

Some mountain goat in a full whiteout. So this is, wow. This is in the French Alps and it's just a monochromatic snowy photo of some sort of goat. Just in a snowstorm, huh? Like a pretty incredible. A whiteout. It looks, it looks like stippling art. You know, you take a pencil and do the tapping.

Yeah, totally. The pencil, like the shade tapping. So it says the photographer was waiting to get the photo, but his camera had frozen by the time the animal appeared. And so he had to use his breath to thaw his camera out. That's pretty neat. Wow. Worth it. Do you think that's true or do you think that's...

I was just going to say. It's a good story to spin to try and win an award. Definitely. For sure. Yeah. Not like, oh, I was sitting in a nice warm car with the heater on. Right. Yeah, when this guy popped over the hill by the freeway.

The cool thing is, if you go. to any of the museums where they display these photos. On each card they tell you the camera, the lens, the exposure, the settings, all of that, which is kind of fun if you're into photography. So that you can then take that and give it to AI

and recreate the image almost exactly. Exactly. You can go to mid-journer. All right, what else we got? I think Ivix is still winning for me. Wow. Oh, are those some hippos? That might, for me that's pretty impressive. You have like an emotional connection to this image. I can tell. Well, one, this is in Cozy Bay where I filmed hippos

underwater, which was very hard to do. We did it with an ROV. But it's just a phenomenal thing to see. I mean, it's the most aggressive, most dangerous animal, basically, in the world. Yeah. And you're underwater in a photo with it. This is done with a camera trap, I'm sure, not by a diver. Sure, but still, look at the rays of sun shining down through the water onto the hippos. Yeah, phenomenal. And is that, is that a baby hippo and a, like a... It's a mom and two, calves. Yeah. A mom and two calves. Now, did this just take the lead? Not for one I want in my house. No, the composition of that Ivex photos flawless.

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I have stuff like that on my iPhone. Yeah, that's a snoo. All right. Let's get to the number one. No, these are just winners in different categories. Oh, gotcha.

Now, what is that? Tapir in Brazil. Tapir, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I mean,

it doesn't do much for me. I get it. Like, there's cool lighting on it. It's, again, it's interesting because... Tapes are cool.

The first couple were just like straight photographs. And like, a lot of these are super creative, like, kind of, you know... Yeah, long exposure. Yeah.

and stuff like that. You know, I'm with forest. I'm kind of drawn more to just like the basic, like, wow, you capture this raw-ass moment. Sure. Exactly, right. Sure. Let's see, what else we got?

I like this. That's heinous. What is that? Like a polluted? Oh, it's shanties somewhere. Yeah, this is the dead river in Jakarta. What's a snoo? Plastic and human waste in agriculture.

Yeah. I mean, it's supposed to make you depressed. It doesn't work. I'm depressed because of what a boring photo it is. Pretty cool All right, that's the end All right, so what about you guys? I would say

Ivix and Hippo are very close for me. Honestly, I think if I had to have one in my house I'd actually, I'm going to change my vote. I'd have the hippo. It's close to home for me. The hippo, it's just more fun to look at. Yep. The orca's right up there.

Shoot. Yeah. I'm going to hippo. Just look at the look on that baby hippo. It's crazy. It's unanimous. Honestly, like the colors of this are so sweet. Like, it's hard to,

tell exactly what's going on behind the first calf. So it's a conversation piece. Also, if you don't have the capability of watching this as a video pod, go to npr.org, and they have the article from the center. I'm going to steal these. This is my new desktop background before I made it. The hip-guaranteed. Yeah, guaranteed.

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