Wild Times: Wildlife Education - New Animal Species FOUND In Madagascar - The Wild Times Ep. 130

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

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Leave that in. That is where I put it. Leave that in. Leave that in. I'm going to fight our nine-year-old producer, Kyle. All right. Well, we're back. We're rolling.

And it's episode 1.30. We're in Pat's Garage. It was chaos this morning. Dude. Yeah. I mean, I don't even know how to begin. I just have to shut off my anger about the situation. And just have a good time.

And that's what I was chaos because we were scrambling with cables. We were getting stuff back from AnimalCon. Well, yeah. We. By we, you mean me and Kyle. Yeah. Patrick and I each had a beer. Yeah.

I was running cables in the laundry room. Yeah. Yeah. I tested a little. Yeah, we got to Pat's Garage, the name of our podcast now. There was a weight bench set up in the middle of the studio. I've never seen you angrier than when you saw the weight bench. There was a, there's a cabinet unit being finished and a very strong chemical smell.

I like it. I think people respect the fact that we don't have our shit together. Yeah, I do. I think that's a good way to think about it. We're announcing a contest with a sweet prize. Oh, doing a huge prize. Stay tuned for that. What's going to be a little bit of a show?

What's in the news? What's in the news? I always like this from the underground. It's fun. Kind of a thing. Yeah. Especially when they're big, bigger than an insect. Let me ask you this.

Yeah. Kyle, pull up a picture of a leaf-tailed gecko, would you? Take a look at this critter right here. Tell me what you think of this. Let's see if you can even spot it. I know Patrick knows what it is because we've seen them together in Madagascar. Go to the third picture over there, Kyle. third one over.

Look at that, Peter. There's an animal in there. Yeah. You know, the only reason I can spot this is because I've, we've talked about this before. Many times. But the first time I could not see the leaf-tailed gecko at all. I didn't know what was there. Well, here's the thing.

There's a new species of leaf-tail. I mean, there's always new species being discovered in Madagascar, especially when it comes to geckos, chameleons, you know, whatnots. New species, Europlatus, Garramassos was discovered. Nailed it. Yep. Garamaso? How would you say it? I don't know. A new leaf tail gecko species only just confirmed

because it looked very similar. It was discovered in the early 2000s. Sure. Of course, it looked like everything else, but they did the genetics on it. Sure enough, new species. All right, so how exciting is that? To me, it's like a two out of ten.

Okay. Yeah. But, you know, I'm also a two out of ten handsome on the pod, so that's my number today. No, here's what it is, right? It had some distinguishing traits, including a different tongue color. And that's what scientists do now.

They go, ooh, look at this. There's one thing slightly different. Sure. And then they look for any which way to diverge that as its own species so they can publish something and be credited with finding a new species, which in this case they did,

and it was successful. And it's fair. It's a fair justification. Yeah. I just don't know that it really matters that much. So what is the excitement in being able, like, okay, so it's such like a small variation. Does the excitement come for the people

who are finding these animals? come in the fact that they get to publish this paper? No, nobody's excited. Not even the person. And that's the thing. This person ever hears a podcast, they're going to hate me for this, but they're not excited by it.

They just need to, this is the model that I always talk about that's broken. They need to do this and need to publish this as a finding so that they can get more funding to continue their work. Sure. That makes sense. And it doesn't, I shouldn't say they're not excited.

I mean, some people are excited. You're confusing, you know, one Europladus with another Europlatus, because the two tongues are different color and they live in the same blah blah, blah, who cares? You know what I mean?

It's like it's all cool. They're all cool leaf tail geckos. It's cool to figure out the speciation. It is important for genetic diversity and understanding it. But at the end of the day, you're sort of just describing it in order to get your funding continue. Yeah, well also like you're in Madagascar. You're trudging through the woods, the forest, the whatever you call it.

Yep. You're studying stuff. Some people are doing this for months at a time. Many months. Yeah. And they're probably doing some sort of. some sort of survey, some sort of reptile survey. Yep.

And they see something and they're like, oh, cool, a leaf-tailed gecko. Those are cool. They're hard to see. Yep. They're hard to find. Can you see it? Can you see it to Luca? No, I can't.

Where is it? There it is. Ha, ha, ha, ha, cool. Whoa, it's tongue weird. Yeah. That's pretty much how they know. So it probably is really exciting thing when you're out there for five months. Yeah.

You're like, why is it's tongue neon blue? It's pretty cool. I like it. I like, it's important to have a bank and an understanding of all the genetic diversity. I just don't know that regardless of who the herpetologist was that studied and published this, if he was like, oh my God! It's got a blue tongue. It's got to be

different. Now, let me try a little more chill. Play a little devil's advocate here. Yeah. Because when we were in Hanson Dong in Vietnam, and you found that snail and you took out your field guide to Vietnamese snails. Yeah. And you were like, this is an undescribed snail. You were pretty

damn excited. That's cooler. It's like, a whole undescribed one, not one with a different colored tongue. We don't know the difference between the tongue was undescribed. You know what? Maybe I'm just jealous of the guy with the cool gecko tongue. So what, Forrest, what is your favorite, most favorite animal that has been discovered recently? It can be five years, ten years, one year, two year.

Like, what were you the most stoked about? Hmm, that's a good question. It is. Most favorite recent discovery. Amazing. It's one of the greatest interview questions ever asked. Well, I'm not interviewing him. I'm having a conversation with him.

Well, it's weird because you don't get the megafauna, right? It's very, very rare for anything large to be discovered, right? Yeah, well, of course. The last big, discovered animal was the Sala, really, in the late 90s. That was the last really big... What's the Sola? We've talked about it. I know.

Big bovine, big, like, wild cattle in the Vietnamese mountains. Vietnamese mountains. Yeah, it's beautiful. I think, what's my favorite discovery recently? I don't know. There was a pretty good frog discovery, a little like purple, slimy-looking frog. I don't remember what it was called. Well, I think we talked about that in the pod.

Yeah, it was a Suriname, the chocolate frog. Chocolate frog in the preview in Amazon. Look at that thing. I thought that was pretty neat. You know, it's got that little, like, slimy body, it's pointy nose. It's pretty weird. That's what my hair used to look like in high school when I'd go on a date. That?

Do you remember that where you just put as much wet look gel as you could get in your hair? Wet look gel. Turns into crust instantly. Dude, dude. My mom used to buy this green gel from like the dollar store. That's what I had. I was literally called. The bubbles in it?

Yeah, the little air bubbles in it. LA looks, you're right. But even the worst version from Dollar General. Also, I feel like giving this frog the name the chocolate frog was like they could have gone another direction. Yeah, but it's Harry Potter. It's mystical and magical. It's delightful. It looks like what comes out of a, like,

a baby into the diaper. Yeah, it does. They could have called it the diaper smear frog. Wait, no, what's the name of the poop that comes out? Maconium. Maconium. Mconium. Yeah. That should definitely have been the name. But yeah, no, I don't know, man. It's tough because I feel like none of the recent discoveries of new species have been monumental, to be honest. Like, no, and that's not a dig at anything. I feel like there hasn't been a really big find in a while. Oh, dude. Yeah. I wonder if there will be another one. There will. There will. Like something the size.

size of like a, like a, like, will we ever discover a new cat? The problem is too many, too many people are spending time, like, delineating species, like I was saying. I mean, like, they, didn't they just, they did. Like, within the last year, they just delineated a new species of sloth, just because it lives on a different island, basically. Really? Like, people are spending time doing that as opposed to, like, going out and looking for new

stuff. Because looking for new stuff is really, really hard. Yeah, you got to go to places that are, that basically you can't get to. It's hard. It's expensive. I don't know if you guys heard about this. It's been in talks with the Catalina Island Conservancy, California, DFW, Department of Fish and Wildlife for a while.

There are a bunch of deer on Catalina Island, okay? They were put there. They're not native. They were put there. They're deer from the mainland that were put onto the island. Why? Do you know why they were originally put there? Okay.

It's not like the bison. The bison were put there for a movie. For a movie. And then they just got left behind. But I think the deer were born. brought out. I don't know, but they're brought out for something. But anyway, they've been there a long time. You see them like cruising around. Like if you're an Avalon, they'll just be like a deer walking down the street sometimes.

You're like, oh, that's kind of cool. Are these white tail? No, they're mule deer. They're mule deer. This is going to be the next fucking Florida dude with invasive species. Yeah, it's, yeah, Florida. Hoof. Anyway, so the Island Conservancy has plans to call 2,000 deer to knock it down because the deer are destroying native plants. They're devastating the droughts are devastating. Their herds, wildfires are becoming an issue because of the erosion from the deer feet. It's just a whole mess of stuff. So the island is actually putting a mandate out to allow hunters to come in and spend money,

which is actually good to call the deer down to 2,000, to bring 2,000 down. How many are, or like, does that mean that there's like 20,000 there? I don't know. I don't know what the whole population is. But I know what they did. on Santa Cruz and Santa Rosa and those other islands, which I've talked about I was a part of. They're also planning on basically if the hunters don't succeed

in the right amount of time, they're going to do the same thing they did for the pigs on Santa Cruz, which is bring in helicopters and sharpshooters. Yeah. And then just take them out from the air. Wow. Yeah. It's, dude, it's so interesting because Catalina is just such a small little rock right off.

Like the, you go there. 26 miles. It's not that tiny. Well, I mean, when you go there, there's only one kind of spot to go. go. And I feel like all the houses are made for little people. Have you ever been there? There's like there's small cars and like golf carts and houses that are shorter than a normal house. There are a lot of little houses. There's a couple of freaking mansions there too.

Oh yeah. No, I mean, Avalon. The king of the island. There's two towns, right? There's there's Avalon and there's two harbors. And Avalon's like the city, if you will, which is super fun. Where the ferry goes, right? It goes to both. Yeah. But two harbors is literally one store, restaurant, like a three-bedroom Airbnb type thing. Yeah. And then Avalon is the, like, there's like 20 bars or so, a bunch of restaurants, great karaoke. Yeah, it's Fratelina.

Great karaoke. There's a mini golf. What's the drink that it's called like a buffalo milk? Buffalo milk. What is, I have not ordered it because it has the word milk in it. It's bovine semen. Yeah, that's right. What is in a buffalo milk?

I think it's like a white Russian. I don't know what it is, but when you're there, you drink nine of them and then throw up like a curdle. I saw people drinking these at this bar and it's like a 20 ounce thing of like frothy milky booze. Yeah, it's got like coconut, banana, Kalua. It's delightful. You know, it's really nice.

You can't, it's such like, having those drinks, they have one in Vegas too. It's like a giant fucking. Oh, like the Vuvuzella filled with booze. Yeah. Like, I don't get it. You can't, if you drink that, you're literally blacked out. What else are you doing? You're stuck on an Island. Don't you think the cops get pissed? Dude, have you seen cops in Catalina? It's the most laid back. By the way, listen, if you're from California, if you're not from California,

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Because in New Zealand they have invasive red stag that were brought in for hunting. Of course. And because they live on the South Island where there's all these crazy fjords and like impenetrable habitat, the way that you go red stag hunting in New Zealand or one of the ways is you do the super expensive helicopter charter. So the guys there that run it, like imagine you're a hunting guide and for 20 years, three times a week,

all you do is fly around these tiny little fjords and shoot deer out of a helicopter. You're the world's leading expert at it. Yeah, it's like instead of having to play video games to be good at that shit, they actually get real-life experience doing this shit. It's so bonkers frustrating too. Like when I was working on the islands

and we were doing so much lame stuff. We're counting ants and rats and all the fucking weeds. Counting ants. And then they're like, all right, we're going to get rid of these pigs. I was like, oh, here we go. Yeah. We're going to shoot him out of helicopters. Like, yes, please.

And here come the guys that are going to do it. And I was like, oh. Yeah. I would pay anything to have been there to see you get devastated. So these like cool, they fly in a charter flight from Auckland. These like cool dudes and like jumpsuits get out. Dude, they helicopter in. They look like something out of top gun.

They got the aviators, flinging their leather jackets over their shoulder, carrying their rifle cases. And you're like, gosh, damn. Yeah, but you're like, they're so cool. Yeah, for sure. And you're like sitting there in your hazmat suit, like spraying weed. Do you have like one of those weed spraying packs on the back? When you counted ants, did you have a little clicker?

Sure. Did it? Wait, wait, wait. I thought that that was just an exaggeration or an exaggeration joke. No, no. You counted ants. Millions. How long were you counting ants?

Jesus Christ. Four months? Dude. Get into biology, everybody. Yeah, it's super fun. You'll love it. Yeah. That's how they weed.

out the weak that aren't actually passionate about the science. I'm also weak and I still made it through. So it's not just, yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, it's a week. Anyway, yeah, that'll be good. It'll be good when they knock that to your population down. When I was cruising around the Everglades last week, uh,

one of the guys who was just like part of like the kind of like the airboat cruise that we're, we're helping us was a botanist. That was his thing. Familiar. And like botany boy just was getting. How boring was this guy though as a person? I liked him as a person, but, man, he would just, like, get really excited about,

like, you know, we're pulling, like, 10-foot gators up onto the boats and stuff like that. And he's, he's, like, yeah, yeah, I got to try something. And it would just be, like, some leave. Yeah. What's that? Shows you his dick. Yeah. I was like, ew.

I've said this before. It's going to upset some people. Biology, or sorry, geologists and botanists. There are snooze. I disagree, man. I love geologists. I can talk to geologists. all day. I find it fascinating.

There's a crazy-ass geologist on this past season of Love is Blind. We should check it out. She's the... Might be the craziest one on the entire season. I've never heard Peter reference a masculine show. No, I watch 90-day fiancé, which there are 40 versions of,

and love is blind. What do you think the creator of 90-day fiancé has made, monetarily? Billion dollars. $25 million. More than that. Because he also does like a bunch of other shows too. Yeah, I'm taking that into see I like my buddy Eric Drummond is a is a geologist

and like being outdoors with him or just like what's going on over there and he just they can just look at shit and tell you how it form. You did go up to the geologist at AnimalCon and you were like you struck up a real that was your longest conversation out of everything there was you talking to the geologist. He was under the fucking table. I know that's what it sounded like the whole time. I find it very. interesting.

Dude, by the way, good way to make a lot of money, too. Being geologists? Oh, because they take, basically they'll take like a two-year or like a four-year contract to go look for oil. Oh. And then they're like, okay, now I'm rich and I can just like do like the fun stuff I want to do. Now I could play with pebbles for a living, yeah. Right. I thought you were going to say because they go out and they like find valuable minerals.

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Number two outdoor moment for me. We're all together, right? Yeah, and I'm going to challenge you to do this in five sentences since that's what Grossner is. Oh, he can't do that. I can. All right. Brevity, not his thing. I'll be the judge.

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B-A-O-T-W. I would have never figured that out. Yeah, let's do it quick. B-O-A-W. You got something truly bizarre? Yeah, I do. All right, you ready? Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. I think Edwin's cheating and texting all the brosters is what the answer is. All right. So this bizarre animal of the week resides in the deep, dark depths of the ocean. Anglerfish.

Uh, what, I don't know. Peter, name one deep sea creature. Dude, what's the ugly one? The blowfish. I don't know. You've got an angler fish. Blothfish. I got a shirt with him on it.

In the darkest of waters in the deep sea where there is no light, this animal produces light through photophores along its belly. Along its belly and fins, so it's not an angler fish. No. It also has a belly and fins. So it's like, it's not one of those weird ass. It's not a deep sea ape. Yeah. Okay.

It doesn't exist. All right. thing with the bulb on its head. Okay. Its bioluminescence serves a specific purpose in its natural habitat, and here's what it does. It aids it in communication. So it does like sonar, but with light or something, like blinks. Strobing effect.

Oh, strobing effect. Oh, strobing effect. And also uses that as camouflage. So it communicates and makes itself noticeable by it and it also uses it as camouflage. That's right. Huh. Yeah. you know when it's really dark and someone shines a light in your eyes?

You know, maybe it's that. Flash bang, flash grenade. Okay. Okay. I got some more clues. Do you want to take a guess at all, Pat? I don't know right now. I have no idea.

I thought I was going to be an angler fish. I do have, no, I don't. I only know of one other deep sea creature and that's what I'm going to guess. So what is it? Uh, no. It's the shark that lives 500 years, the Greenland shark? It's a good guess. And to combat that.

I'll tell you that this long streamlined animal is only a few inches long. Cookie cutter shark. Good guess. But I mean, I don't know. Just guess something. Giant squid. Close. All right.

So this week's bizarre animal. It's this big. Giant squid. Wait, there's two more clues, isn't there? Or did you give them? Okay. So let's recap. Yep.

Our bizarre animal of the week is bioluminescent. It lives in the deep, dark ocean. Yes. It has a long streamlined body, but is only six. inches long. And it has these six inches long. About six inches long. And it has these lights on its belly and fins that it uses for camouflage and communication. Now you want me to throw a real ringer at you? Yeah, absolutely. It's a shark. Well, at least I got that part. I said cookie cutter shark. I don't believe they have bioluminescence. So that was a bad guess. A goblin? That one? So ugly. I assume it's in the deep sea. Yeah, goblin shark? No, they don't have bioluminescence.

These are good guesses. I'm curious if any Brosner's got it. We are bizarre animal of the week. This week. Yep. Yeah. Is the dwarf lantern shark. Take a look at this.

Never heard of it? Lantern. Let's see this thing. You get where it gets the name dwarf. It's only six inches long. Lantern because it glows. Look at this little sucker. It's the cutest shark I've ever seen.

And it closed in the dark. And it has speckles on its belly and it's fin and it bioluminesces. Well, let me ask you a question. Basically, it's a sardine with a shark's face. Well, I was going to say, it's a sardine shark. Hold on. So it looks like. that out of the water. I'm assuming when it's

actually down in the pressure that it lives at. That's what it looks like. Okay. It looks like a beautiful tetra. Yeah. That's good for you for no one. A tetra is. I had him when I was in. I'm going to buy you a fish tank. Oh. I'll just got a fish tank. I saw. That's why he was late today. Yeah, he was tending to his discus.

Wow, that was, I would have never guessed that, but do you know why I thought of this? Why? Because my son was watching Octonaut. Do you guys know Octonauts yet? Are your kids at Octonauts? I've heard of it. I've not Watch. Tremendous, by the way. Very educational.

Octonauts. Okay. Octonauts. Delightful show. Okay. And they were doing a feature on the dwarf lantern shark. I was like, wow. Nice.

A great bizarre animal of the week. Nice. Yeah. Wow. Never heard of it. Pretty cool. Will this be your next shark week? Is it your spirit animal?

Yeah. Really easy to sell a, sell a shark week show on a fish this big. You're one of the only people who's managed to sell some smaller shark sharks. That's true. That's very true. No, I don't think I'm getting away with this one, unfortunately. Be cool. You send down a box trap.

It's like this big. Kyle, how deep do they live? These dwarf lantern sharks. I mean, like, we're talking thousands of feet. Yeah, what do you think for us? What is considered deep sea? Before we see it, I'm going to say they're like 700 feet down. 700 plus.

Oh, there we go. 928 down. That doesn't feel like deep sea to me. 700 doesn't feel like deep sea. I feel like it's got to be thousands. I don't think you know how far a thousand feet is. I said 700. Okay, fine.

Picture an 80 story tall. The Empire State's buildings is a little over a thousand feet. Okay, I guess, yeah. So imagine going that far down. pressure and the depth and there's no light down there. Like, it's insane. Yeah. It's one thing to jump a thousand feet or go a thousand feet up a mountain.

Going down a thousand feet in water. And you said, you said free diving, you can only go about 150? Well, me. No, no, I mean, other people can go much deeper. No, what's the max? Herbert Niche did 600 and look like Kyle's, 640 feet. That's crazy. Free dive?

Yeah. How does he, didn't his head explode? I mean, what the hell? No, but his whole body was like a third the size that it normally is, basically, because everything compresses. Oh my goodness. Well, the water doesn't, but like the lungs and all the air.

No, no, apparently it's... Nine minute depth breath hold. I think it's 600 and 7002 feet. That is like being on a different planet. Yes. That's crazy. That's where those fucking lantern sharks are.

They do that with the aid of a line, right? Yeah. So they have a line and then there's a bunch of different variations. There's unassisted, which is just down and up. There's a sled that can pull you down. There's a one-way sledge. where you go down and just pulls you back up, there's like a bunch of different variations.

So I was just a buddy of mine who does some of the same types of stuff you do, and he was telling me about a... Not as handsome. No, no, no. Yeah, he's a one. No, no, no, no. But he recently did something

where they went down in a submersible. Sick. And showed me some pictures, and it's, you know, you're basically like, kind of like laying down on your elbows. Yeah. It's fucking cramped in there.

Oh, it's terrible. Yeah. So it's him, a camera guy, and the, pilot. And she's like giving them the safety briefing and whatever. And they have like their little emergency kit. And the emergency is packed.

It's got like it's got some food in it. Yeah. And then a fuckload of Xanax. Oh yeah. Yeah. That adds up. And it's like they do that because if something goes wrong and they like lose their line or whatever.

Chill. It's so that everyone would just relax and breathe less air and like get real dosed up on the anti-anxiety stuff. It's a good way to die, too. It's better than not having it. That's for sure. That's what I'm saying. If you're going to croak in a sub,

give me nine bar of Xanax immediately. I feel like, and I'm just like, nine bars. If they were like, no, we got room for a producer, hop in. They would just be doing their stuff and they'd be like, what are you eating chips back there? Xanax powder all over my beard.

Snark and Xanax? Yeah. Wow. Well, this has been a good, look, I, I'm very excited about this kind. I feel like it's fun. The engagement is high.

I'm enjoying it. Right before Christmas, we'll be able to announce our winner. Yep. Even for somebody who isn't as outdoorsy as these two outdoorsmen, that fucking leatherman knife is dope. Dude, so spicy. I just call a camera guy tool. So solid.

Dude, I will not. I don't know if Patrick, you enforce the same thing. If a camera guy doesn't have a leatherman on them on set, I know. I'm not joking. Like, I won't let them. You laugh them out of the room. Yeah. You want to work.

serious. If you want to work on a gig with Forrest, you must have a leatherman on the pocket. Kyle, am I joking? Way in. Do I not scream at you guys if you don't have a leatherman on you at all times? Where's your fucking leatherman? Yeah, I'm dead serious about it. I'm dead serious about it.

Well, shit. I think this has been a good one. Been fun. Submit your outdoor moments. Five sentences, not six. All right, so you guys strike me as active fellas. Yep. Yeah. I would even call you doers, people that go out and do something. Your thoughts. Yes. Yeah. And that's why,

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I can wear them on a plane. I can wear them on an adventure. I can wear them to a meeting. And honestly, they're probably the best pair of pants I've ever had. Yeah. No shit. If you're like me who's not a doer, you can still enjoy these pants. And because they're, you know what, they're stretchy jeans.

Okay. So after I have a big old meal, I don't have to one button anymore because these pants are so comfortable. No joke. You're in a bulk phase right now, right, Peter? That's what it is. End of the year bulk phase. Yeah, that's smart. Look, we all know you'll love doer just as much as we do.

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You're not going to want to miss it. That's 15% off now. If you go to shop, doer, d-u-e-r-com slash wild. Dude, a producer that I worked with, he, sent me like a like a 15 minute thing he made he went to Lima Peru and he was just doing like he was just documenting um like crime there you know and so he like embedded with a few different people but one of them was like this 15 year old kid who lived with his mom his mom knew what he was doing and this is how they supported the family and what he would do is he would just so Lima

Peru is you know there's 12 million people there it's a hugely densely populated city and him and a buddy, he had a buddy who would stand down the street, you know, within, within visual contact, right? And so the buddy would look for cars where the person was holding their cell phone in a way that was conducive for him to reach into through the window because there's less cars with air conditioning, right? Right. So his buddy would signal him the car like someone's on their phone, right? The passengers texting or whatever looking at their phone. And this guy would just wait for the car to come up, traffic's moving at a snail pace and just was really good at just going, boom. And then they would take off. They had a whole alley plan that they would run down.

Nobody could find him. And he would get like 20 phones a day. And then he would take him to a place and sell the phones. And that's how the 15 year old son supported his little sister and his mom. That's the sad thing is that there's that that is often the derivative behind it, right? Yeah. There's a lot of like, you watch it and I wasn't like, I hate it. I. this kid. Right. Like he's doing what he can. Yeah. Yeah. I hate him. I've told you about what they do. I don't think they do this anymore, but I, when I was young and we used to go to Nairobi for safari business stuff, what they do in Nairobi to extort money out of you at stoplights? Would it? No, you haven't told us. No. So the street kids will, uh, they'll shit in their hands in Nairobi. And when you stop at a

stoplight, if you have your light down, they'll hold the shit in the window and put their other hand out. and if you don't put money in their hand, they just throw it on your lap. What do you mean if you have your light down? Your window down. You stop at a stoplight and you have your window down. He misspoke. That's what I meant.

Okay. But yeah, that was how, and it was like a known thing. It was like, do not have your windows down in the city because, you know, it's hot. Nobody has air conditioning back then. Yeah.

And it was like everybody drive around and, you know, open land cruisers and stuff. And these street kids would run up with little human shit in their hand and put their hand out. And you'd have to quickly scramble to put money in their hand before they threw shit on your lap. What if you just, what if you just,

took your machete and chopped their fucking hand off. Then you'd have shit and blood on your lap. That sounds terrible. But I'd still feel better about the situation. Speaking of all these international cities around the world, Kyle, why don't you pop on screen? Let's make this a three-way game. Oh, he's fucked.

So, you know, we talk a lot about travel. Travel can be, you can travel to go on a hike. You can travel to go see bears. You can go catch gators. Just masturbating. Look how fostered he looks. He was. definitely just masturbating.

It was. I can see him in the, in the, with my special ad, he was masturbating. Yeah, that's right. Very sweaty.

So sweaty. Hands are you having to sneaky beat? Yeah. Yeah, the urban dictionary just got me flustered. Sorry. Sorry, I killed your diatribe there.

All right. Well, you know, how much do, how much do the wild times hosts really know about, about travel? About the world we live in. Zero. So we're going to do a little,

we're going to do a little game here. So what I, have in front of me is the most recent United Nations population estimates of the biggest cities in the world. No cheating. Oh, wow. Okay. All right. So what we're going to do is we're going to go around. We're going to start with Kyle. Yep. Name what name a city and then based on where it ranks, you get that many points. Gotcha. Okay. It's based on population, not like density. What are the largest cities in the world as of 2020? I'm going to guess it has to be somewhere in probably In New York?

You have to name the city. Okay. All right. I don't even know any cities. Kyle comes in hot with Delhi. That is the number two highest population city in the world. Okay. 28.5 million people.

I'm going next. I'm going next. Wait, for us. What were you going to say? I was going to say Delhi as well. But go ahead, Peter. Kyle gets 28.5 points. Yeah.

Okay. So this is the highest population density. Yeah. No, no, no, city population. Oh, shit, okay. Delhi is the second biggest city in the world. I'll just say Shanghai. That is number three.

That's a great guest. 25.6 million people in Shanghai. I'm going to say Beijing then. Oh, Beijing is number eight. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was Delhi. I thought that was like a known thing.

So we still don't have number one. Forrest, you get 19.6 points for that. Okay. It's not great. You could make it up on your next guest. Since Kyle went first, we're going reverse order for us. What's your second guess? Okay.

Still missing number one. Mumbai. Mumbai. That's number seven, also in India. 20 million people. Forest gets 20 points. Yeah. Peter.

Listen, I don't know many worldwide cities. I'm just going to go because I know it's somewhere on there. Los Angeles You just scroll way down That's number 23 I'll take it 12.5 million people I know what it might be

Hang on So let me say something here Yeah Ellie was number two The number one city has Almost 10 million more people than Delhi And they're both in India by the way I think I know what it is

Kyle Kyle go Wait I thought you already got it I thought oh no that was number one Mumbai I think I know what it is I don't know what it is But I'm just going to throw out Tokyo. That is correct.

No way. That was going to be my first guess. That was not my next guest. Tokyo is a fucking island. I thought you were, that's why I asked about population density because I was like, okay, I know Tokyo has,

shut up. F off. Tokyo is the largest city in the world. Wow. How many people? 37.5 million people. I'm so angry with myself. Wow.

Wait, well, wait. I still want to see where my next guest rang. It's not. over you each get one more. Got it. And we'll see who gets most points. Okay. So Peter's up next. No, Kyle's up for his last guess. Yeah. Wait, didn't he just get it? Oh, I see. Yep. Sorry. Wow. Okay. He's going to have to really bomb this because he got the number one and number two.

Yeah. It's, uh, New York somewhere in there. No way. It's a pretty good guess. That's actually number 11 with 18.8 million people. Okay. Peter, my turn. Shit, dude. Still got number four, number five, number six. Very curious. I thought my next one was going to be number one,

so I want to see where it ranks. So angry about Tokyo. I'll go Manila Philippines. Manila Philippines. That's a great guess. Now, well, it is number one by far in population density. It's only number 17 total with 13.5 million people.

Good guess. How about Jakarta? That was my next guess. Let me see, Jakarta. I'm going to scroll on this one. It's not even on the list. Really? Oh, it's number 30.

10.5. Really? Jakarta, Indonesia. 10.5? No way. It's like a gargantuan. Now, what, you've been there for us. So was it the density or the size of the city that made you think it would be up there?

I just thought it was definitely in the top, like, two or three of most populated cities. I mean, it's just like, it's similar to, I'm in a to Tokyo. but similar to the other cities that we've named in the sense of there's just people everywhere. Kyle, Kyle, when we're done with the game and you're off screen again, go ahead and fact check this because I think, I think Pat's got his numbers wrong. That's always fun to do. No, I'm looking at based on the broosters are all going to do it for him if he doesn't. So to Forrest's point, Jakarta, the population density is more than double Tokyo, but the land area is less than a quarter of Tokyo. Oh, interesting.

That makes sense. All right. Well, I'm not good at this game. So number four, so you guys got one, two, three, which is Tokyo, Delhi, Shanghai. Number four is Sao Paulo, Brazil. Oh, wow. Then Mexico City. Cairo is number six in Egypt. Wow.

Oh, really? I didn't know Cairo is that big. Yep. And then Mumbai, which you got, Beijing. Number nine was Dhaka in Bangladesh. And then 10, Osaka. Oh, wow. Japan's got a lot of people.

And it's tiny, isn't it? Yeah. Dude, Manila is like 60% higher than the second most dense population. Wow. It's, there's 42,000 people per square kilometer. Oh my God. That's how. That's crazy.

The vertical city. Yeah. Well, dude, I've watched on 90-day fiancé, sometimes they'll be dating someone or engage with someone. and over there in the Philippines and they they live it's like I mean what's that movie where they show all the houses like the slums in slumdog millionaire or whatever it's uh it's like that in the Philippines and the when I was watching the last season this Filipino woman's mom died while they were shooting because she fell down their makeshift stairs and like their their roof is like

just a towel over some plywood. It's ludicrous, man. You ask how they do it. It's just all like packed in there like sardines and not real actual like housing units. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy to think. So if you do square, if you translate that square miles or square kilometers to

square miles because we understand miles in the U.S. And not kilometers very well, that's 108,000 people per square miles. Wow, dude. So that's like 15 times the population density of L.A. I don't understand. Like, why do you reproduce at that point? I wouldn't. I don't mean that to be, you know, racist or whatever.

But like, if you're living in a slum and your life's pretty hellish and you have no space and there's 100,000 people on top and beside you, why not be like, all right, I can't bring children into this world in a nice capacity. they're not going to make things better. You know, like, why reproduce? And I know some people would be like, oh, they don't have a choice. They do have a choice. You know what I mean? Like, condoms cost 10 cents everywhere in the world. Like, or whatever.

But, like, why? Like, what is the point of reproduction when you're living in that? I debated not having kids in my house because it's a two bedroom. Like, why do that, you know? Like, I just don't. I honestly think, dude, that, you know, without the education of well-educated, educated places or whatever that just the instinctual sexual drive to reproduce and humans just takes over.

I mean, you know, and then they get pregnant because they, whatever, they couldn't contain them. Maybe rape, dude, legit, as terrible as it sounds like sexual assault. Not millions of people. True. True. But yes, I hear what you're saying. It just, I don't know.

It just seems so crazy. It's like, it does. Try and better your situation before bringing other people that are also going to be miserable into the world. Oh, absolutely, man. I mean, even with my current kids, I'm like, what have I done? This place is going to hell by 2015. Nobody can buy a house. I suppose if people from 100 years look now, they'd be like, why are they having children? There's so many people. Like, the world's so terrible. And we're sitting here judging others for the same thing.

So anyway, it's interesting. It is crazy to think about just packing over 100,000 people into a square mile. Like I can't even wrap my head around how you could have any, any personal space whatsoever, even when you're sleeping. Right. So just to visualize, that would be essentially just eight city blocks on four sides and fitting that 100 and what was it? Like 108,000. 108,000 people in that size, dude. And it's not like there's multiple stories, maybe two stories max. It's not like these are high rises with people in them, you know?

There is something to that whole thing, though, because if I'm not mistaken, and Pat, you can fact check me. Japan is going through depopulation. Like, they're not having kids at an alarming enough, at enough rate to be a sustained population, which I think there's probably like a monkey brain correlation to where it's like, oh, my God, there's too many people. You know, I don't think it's like actively choosing not to have kids, but there's probably some sort of switch that's being flipped. where all this generation of Japanese are not having kids. And I bet if you looked into it, I bet it would be in the cities and not out in the country, right? I bet it would be where it's so densely populated.

Yeah. That your brain, your monkey brain is being switched to be like, no more people, no more people. That's interesting. And it does sound like that that could be one of the thing. Because you know how we're humans and we think we have control over every behavior we have?

But then there's some things like when you get really hungry, you have no control over it. Yeah. That sounds like that would be one of the things, you know? You're all crammed in there. Yeah. So, I mean, Japan's population, yeah, it fell by over 800,000 last year.

They have the oldest population in the world. Right. And the fertility rate is about, so it says just to maintain their population size, they would need to have a 2.1% fertility rate, but it's at 1.3. So if you're losing 800,000 more people are dying than being born every year. The fertility rate is 1.5%. 3%, meaning only 1.3% of people are fertile? That doesn't make sense. I think that's what percent are reproducing each year in a given year. Yeah. So is this a bad thing or is I mean, this is probably,

it's a good thing, right? It's a good thing. It's a bad thing, you know, for Japan and for the Japanese, it's a good thing globally, right? Like if we were all doing this, the world would be a better place. You know what I mean? Like, and that's the problem is like, it's not all. You know, it'll just shift somewhere else. There'll be poverty, whatever. But, you know, it's just, it's, it's a good thing if it became a global thing, but it's a bad thing, you know, for Japan. You know what I've always found strange, dude, that the government will get all up in your business about, like, everything, your fucking finances, your taxes, you know. But, but God forbid they issue, like, you have to take a test to have children or something. Right.

I mean, you should need a license to have kids, man. You got people who are like poor fucking wherever, down south, whatever, they got no money, living off. the government having six, eight kids. Right. And it's like, why is this allowed? And then those are the people that are having the kids. And then the educated people are the ones that are like, nah, I'm not going to have a kid until I'm 35. I'm like, I don't have one kid when I'm financially solid got a career.

Yeah. And so then your whole, your population is being filled with these, you know, these morons who are fucking just having kids to make money off the government. Like it should not. It's just, it destroys. the case in most other places, by the way. No, no, I'm talking about you. Yeah. All right. So this is a bonus, right?

Yes, this is a bonus, because this is not a sponsor. Have you guys tried this thing, this magic mind thing? No. I just bought these. This is not like me trying to plug something. And it's like, uh, because Patrick, you know, let me see it. Let me see it. Is that the on it thing? No, it's something else. I've tried the on it ones. You and I both tried them. They made you feel queasy. Yeah, I didn't feel good. Yeah, this is boost energy and focus, crush per curses.

fascination, blah, blah, it's got 12 ingredients. I don't really know what it is. It's like a chaga mushroom and a few other things. Dude, I've stopped drinking coffee in the morning and I'm just having one of these. This is my third day, so check back with me in a week. But this is the third day I've had one. I just, I randomly just bought a little box of them. They're amazing. I feel so like alert and they taste good and I don't know what's in them, green tea and mushrooms and a passion fruit and a bunch of other weird stuff. Yeah, try them out, Peter, especially for you who's struggle in the mornings with the kid stuff because that's why I bought him. I was like, yeah, I just wanted to try something different because coffee wasn't cutting it. I like drink one of

these. There's no jitters. There's no caffeine feeling. You're not like, who I'm awake. You're just like, I feel good. I feel alert. I'll get it to go. Not a sponsor or of anything, any kind. I literally not yet at myself. But no, I'm just telling you guys. Like, I realize I've been sitting here like flicking this little bottle, the whole pod. So I wanted to explain what it was. Dude, I will try it because I had an experience where a buddy of mine who's a trainer was like, hey, come meet me. We were just going to meet in the middle of the day. He was like, yeah, let's go to this place, Ron's Tea Garden.

It's like this, like, it's a Chinese, you know, Eastern medicine place where you can buy all sorts of herbs and stuff. And then they have like a tea shop. And he was like, yeah, he's like, so I got there. I was a little late. He was like, dude, you got to try this thing called Diamond, mind. It was just like a blend of different herbs and teas that's supposed to like give you like immense focus and clarity. And, uh, and I had one and I legit felt amazing. Like I noticeably was like on.

I was like up. Dude, it felt great. Same thing. Same thing, dude. I'm telling you. It's, it's, and I feel much less stress. Not that I'm a big stressor, as Peter likes to point out, but I just feel like, I'm just like, yeah, whatever. I'll get to it later. Like, I just, I mean, that's, that's a, that's not a good quality for you to have. You shouldn't be any less stressed. That's like ludicrous, dude. Nothing will ever get done in your life except for trips and vacations. Not true.

I organized a whole rugby event in two hours in the middle of the night. Yeah. In the middle of the night? So you just take a one, you just take a pill. It's not like a tea or anything. No, it's a drink. It's this little drink. I'll show you.

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They're next to the earthworms in my mini fridge for feeding my turtle. And you get this little green drink. And it's delicious too, which I wasn't expecting. I think we should just say they are not a sponsor of the podcast. I'm just interested because, I don't know. Caffe doesn't really do anything for me. Yeah, it doesn't work anymore for me either. It does nothing.

I just exploded the box. Look what just happened. The whole bottom fell out. They're now all over my floor. Terrible boxes. Bad boxes. Good drink. No, I'll just drink it, right, Peter?

I was just going to say, dude, I'll drink like three, four cups a day. I mean, it does nothing. Sometimes it makes me even more sleepy, dude. No joke. I like fall asleep fucking, the other day I fall asleep just dozed off on the couch and I twitch, knock the coffee right on the fucking floor, broke the glass. Coffee everywhere. I was so pissed.

Dude, try these things. Try it. I swear to God, maybe it's just because it's a new sensation, you know, and I'm used to coffee and I'm numb to coffee. Yeah. Try, just buy yourself a box. It's like 30 bucks. I don't ever remember trying coffee and being like, ooh, I'm awake.

Like, it's just, it was a thing that I thought I could do starting in college when I had to do all nighters for finals because I hadn't been to the class all year. And I was like, this is a thing that I've been told will keep me up. I've never experienced, like, I had a coffee and it was like, ooh, now I'm ready. Have you ever had a C4 or a monster or one of those things? Yeah, I've tried everything, man. That doesn't do it for you? That's not like now I'm ready. The one thing I'll say is like with five-hour energy,

you guys probably remember. Peter, we worked on the show together. I was doing a show that filmed at nights for like three years. And we were just filming not, you know, every week, three, four nights a week. Yeah. You know, 4 p.m. to 4 a.m. to 4 a.m. And I got in the habit of doing a five-hour energy after lunch. And lunch was it, which was a midnight, right?

Which 10 p.m., yeah, or 11 p.m. Right. And I would do. that I wouldn't feel anything, but I'd be like, oh, I powered through. And I didn't know if it was just because I was focused or if it was the five hour. Who cares? Energy drinks are making a huge comeback. Not that they've ever been gone, but now they're like, they're selling them in coffee shops, cafes, like these special, yeah, special blend energy drinks and trying to get, I think, tap into more our age market. Because, you know, it's kids who are playing video games and

art. Yeah. Our, uh, our 30, 38 year old friend who acts like he's 16, Neil, who drink these, normally. But now they're trying to get them like, and I think they're putting more like the mushrooms, cordyceps. Yeah. You know that this is getting huge, right? Yeah. The mushroom thing right now. So I like it. I like it a lot. Hey, it seems to work. I'd much rather that. I'd much rather drink a bunch of mushrooms and spices than a bunch of synthetic chemicals, you know, dude, I can't drink regular energy drinks. They just make me, like a Red Bull? No way, dude. A monster. Kill me, man. I'll just be jittery and have body anxiety for the whole day. If you went into a restaurant, fast food-ish restaurant, and one of the drink offerings was called charged lemonade. What would be, what would

you think it was? Lemonade with caffeine in it. What would you think, Peter? Yeah, some type of energy drink. Like, like, well, the fast food chain Panera bread is being sued. by the family of a college student who went in slugged down a couple charged lemonade. She had a heart condition so she couldn't have caffeine. And she sat very sadly passed away. But the family is claiming that she, you know, she wasn't aware that there was caffeine in it. It wasn't like labeled properly. You know, it is called charged lemonade.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to be harsh. I'm sorry for the family, but that's, that's come up. I would think it either has booze in it. or like something adult, some libation in it. It's also got to be like everywhere, right? If they're marketing it, it's got to be like, oh, this is our charged lemonade.

You know, like when you walk in, it's like when you go to Taco Bell and they got the blue mountain dew, you know, it's like, Baja blast on the walls. You're like, all right. Also, I mean, that would, I guess that's kind of interesting because that would be the equivalent of drinking a six pack of mountain dew and then being like, yeah, I didn't know there was caffeine in it. Right. Writing's too small. Right. It looks delicious, by the way. Yeah, really does.

Apparently, it has more caffeine than four shots of espresso. Really? Yeah, I might go get something right after this. Hey, speaking of looking delicious, I just saw that Kyle posted the Wild Times episode 12.5 or whatever it was, you know, the one where we wore our boat eyes. The half episode. We look delightful. Like, we are rugged, handsome, very well-dressed. We should start doing that regularly.

I'm for it. People, there's been some comments. somebody did comment on that that I liked where it said Pat's death stare into the camera is really scaring me. I thought that that was funny because I didn't notice it and then I watched it for a little while. And because you're in the middle, it's like whenever you're looking at one of us, it's like, you're just like death staring. Also, I wore shorts. I think it was a big hit. I'm pretty happy about that. Shorts and converts with a button down. I'm looking at it as we speak. It's quite nice. I'm, I mean, would wear that just out. That'll be my thing.

I like it. Dude, that is a look, Peter. I'm looking at it too. Shorts tucked in. That's right. Crisp button down, bowtie, long hair. Also, notice the unbuttoned, unbuttoned top button. He's got like the Dracula lapel going on.

My neck is enormous. I could not fucking, I could not button that top button. It wasn't possible. I'll be honest. I wish I had more events to dress nicely. I mean, I'm sure I can make the active choice to go to things where I have to dress nicely, or I could just not be such a fucking slob. But it's like, every time you get dressed up, you're like, oh, man, I feel and look great. And then you like, go back to wearing workout gear and t-shirts. And you're like, yeah,

that's just me. Just so much easier. It's so much easier. It's not even, well, it's actually not even that much easier. But you literally, for a guy, you put on a, like a wife beater shirt shirt underneath. Yeah, you put on a dress shirt, you button it up. You put on dress pants. Like, that's not that much harder than pulling sweatpants on and putting a t-shirt. No, but, but, and maybe it's just because I'm not up to date on all the new stuff, it feels like you're wearing a cardboard box. For sure. And that's what sucks.

Like when you're just like in the workout gear, it's all soft and comfy and you can sit all day, you're trying to sit and dress pants with a button down, your top button done up. Like 20 minutes and I'm like, kill me. Like I feel terrible. Yeah. I've gotten so fat and have such love handles that all of my pants and my jeans, I basically just wear them without the top button button now. I have to get new jeans.

Like none of them fit. And I'm just like, you know, I'm too busy. I'm too tired. I hate shopping. And I just haven't done it. Hate shopping. And it's like, dude, I feel like such a piece of shit, man. That's why I don't wear like just dressed clothes or jeans because I don't have to unbutton the sweatpants.

Yeah, but you, but here's the whole time I've known you, you go in these, you go through these phases. it happens every time this time of year where you just get fat, call yourself fat, say you feel like shit. And then like January 15th, you go on a diet where you eat nothing but beans for a month. Yeah. Lose like 30 pounds and feel great. It's just how you do. And look great.

Hey, thanks. Yeah, no. I mean, you know, it's probably not healthy. But yeah, there's something to be said. Like we said about about not having kids when the population gets too thick around you, there's something to be said for the cycle of winter coming and you wanting to get fat. And then once it comes to an end and all the holidays are over and shit, you're just like, I can't eat anything.

Bro. So first of all, all guys are disgusting. But the idea of sharing a bed with any guy that's on an all bean diet. Dude, I got a pretty tough stomach. There wasn't even that much gas that came along with my all bean diet. There's no way that's accurate. Listen, I got, I got destroying the sheets at night. These were not your average can beans made.

I was getting these at the ethnic store. They were dry. I was pressure cooking them, dude. I had beans for days. And I'm telling you, because of that, I don't think they were not making me as gassy as you would think. Okay. Hey, Patrick, are you seeing this thing that Kyle just put in the chat?

I am. This is like so up your alley. Did you scroll down to the critter? I'm looking at video of the critter right now. Well, let's pull it up. Yeah, pull this up. This is like, this is Atacama critter number. 2. This is so, so in Patrick's wheelhouse. Oh my God. What is this? Uh, yeah, what does it say?

It says unveiling get the hell out of here. The history of the Fiji Mermaid, Scans confirmed bizarre creature discovered in Japan is part fish, part monkey, and part reptile. No. So, I mean, the mummy was brought, so there's a little bit of a backstory. The mummy was brought back from Japan by an American sailor and donated to a historical society in 1906. Okay. Dude. It was x-rayed and CT scanned for the first time. It seems to be a hodgepodge of at least three different species externally. So somebody must have made this thing.

Yeah, of course. Oh, okay. Okay. Dude, I was, because when you look at this thing, you're like, okay, this is an alien, right? But somebody put this thing together and then they found it. It was like in a tomb or something. Yeah, so they would, apparently in the early 1900s, this was like a thing, that people would make these mermaids. Yeah, I'm trying to remember, maybe Kyle can find it.

There's one in the UK, too. It's like, it's called like a flapper or something. It's made from a skate. Let's see, UK skate mermaid. And it created a whole thing. Oh, people love doing a good hoax. Yeah. Well, dude, I mean, right now it's big in the, in the, in Mexico, they do.

they did basically a disclosure thing in front of Congress. And there's this known hoaxer there named Jamie Mousan. But he brought out two alien, alien mummy bodies. Oh, yeah, yeah, I saw it. Yeah. There's this huge controversy going on right now. And he's a known hoaxer. So everybody right off the bat was like, this is a hoax.

Like how would anybody believe this guy? But supposedly now there's actual scientists who have been like, doing scans on it, x-ray CT scans, looking at the actual genetic material, the DNA. And legit scientists are coming out and saying that, wait a minute, it's definitely not something that was constructed as this mermaid is. It's an actual entity that existed or something. So look into that. It's called the NASCAR Mammies or something.

I can't remember exactly, but it's wild times, man. Wild times. Yeah, I can't think of the guy's name. I just heard about this yesterday, but it's like one of like the, you know, more famous, uh,

UFO encounters. And the guy has like done the UFO circuit for years for decades. And he finally, I guess, just admitted like either this week or last week that the whole thing was a hoax after like 25 years. And he was just like, yeah.

It was fake. I made it up. What do you get out of that? I was just going to say notoriety. I guess. Well, so this is, uh,

It seems so dumb. It seems so dumb. And this is one of the weird things about that skinny Bob alien that I've talked about before on the pod. Because nobody's ever taking credit for it. And it's just like what you think there's no point in like this. And when somebody actually like says, I discover this or whatever, nobody has ever taken credit for this fucking supposed alien footage. And you're just like, why? Why would anybody do this? You know, it's so strange. Yeah. Odd thing to do. People are bizarre creatures. I love how whenever I start talking about aliens, forest is so disinterested. He hates it. My wife's texting. I have to go to a thing tonight. Okay,

where because I'm missing boo at the zoo, I now have to go to, I don't know what the hell it's called, something where people decorate their cars and kids walk around and ask for candy out of the car. Also at the zoo, I don't know what it's called. Sounds great, man.

Have fun. Okay. It's not that I'm disinterested in you. It's, I'm far more disinterested in this stupid kid thing I have to go to tonight, but I'm getting, I'm getting a million texts about, hey, can you bring down fishing lines so that we can hang the decorations from the car?

Make sure it's clear, not blue. Oh, it has to be strong enough. And then the last one was also, I thought it might be funny to have some lobster defrosting in the back. And then we can eat them when we get home for dinner. Did you freeze them whole? Is this a good idea? No, just tails. Never mind then.

Not a big deal. Do you have, you know, it's just fucking never ends. It just never ends. It never ends, bro. All right. I want to add some value to the brosters here because Kyle last. The last time we recorded in person brought some lovely yellow tail. Oh, yes.

He gave a, we got a bunch of nicely filet, yellow tail fillets. And I made, I made mine last night. So I was on the fence. I texted Forrest. He was like marinate and put him on the grill, but it was getting late. I didn't feel like cleaning the grill. Sure. So I haven't cleaned it.

So whatever. So I ended up doing the foil packet, you know, little olive oil. Very nice. It kind of steams itself, right? Very nice. How did you, what did you, they were frozen, right? So how did you handle that? I defrosted them in the fridge and then let them get to room temp.

Gotcha. I overcooked it by like a minute. And as you know, with fish, man, a minute makes a big difference. Yeah. That was just pissed. The seasoning was great. Tasted great. Forest.

What is the ultimate way to prepare a lovely filet of fish? Well, it's like asking what the best way to cook meat is. different fish, different methods. All right, so Yellowtail, it's a common fish. I'm going to be cooking mine that Kyle gave me. I want to know. Here's a controversial answer, but it's the right answer. The best way to prepare Yellowtail is to not.

Ah, get out of here. Yeah, it's to prepare it. Sorry, to eat it raw. It's to unprepared it. Unprepared. So I like Yellowtail the best as pokey, but I didn't want to suggest that because it's pain in the ass. So I like to take my yellowtail,

make sure all the bloodline is cleaned out of it. So there's none of that red stuff. and then Kyle hop on here. And then when you pulled it out the freezer, when it's semi-frozen, so it's not all the way thawed out and it's not rock solid, you can cut it into perfect cubes

like you get at a, you know, at a pokey restaurant. Right. And you put it over paper towels so it sucks the moisture out while it continues to defrost. Okay. Then you throw it in the bowl,

add your seasonings, your spices, nice big, hot, steamy bowl of sushi rice and throw the gold fish on top with furikki and, tarotcha and all that good stuff, bunch of soy sauce, go to town. Wait, okay. So, delicious. Did you get rid of the blood, the blood veins that Forrest just said in the fish that we have?

When they prepare it down there, yeah, they get rid of the blood. They cut it out. So you're telling me that I could just pop this fish out, put it in a paper towel. And then once it defrost, like, just put some shit on there, some stuff, throw it in some sushi rice and I can eat that. Yep. 100%. I won't die.

You won't die. You can just chew on it like a dog treat right now. Wow. Because I have two fillets and I'm definitely going to do that with one of them. It's really good. I did that with mine. That's what I've been doing. Really?

You've been doing a lot of pokey with yours? Yeah, but like with the chips and that sort of thing. You want a little trick, Peter? Yes. You want a little trick? Santa Monica Seafoods pokey sauce. Saves you nine steps of mixing shit together. It's available to every grocery store.

Okay. And you just cut your fish up, toss it in there, lightly because it's pretty strong stuff. Light toss in there, ready to go. Let toss. Yep. Okay. Dude, like, no joke.

This is the most excited thing I get from the podcast. Like, we talked about this before and I, like, been taking furious notes. But the fish that you gave me, and I never told you this. It was so, I was so pissed off, dude. Our fucking brand new fridge that came with the house, two years old, stopped working. Oh, no way. And for no reason. So we were like, we just went in there and we were like, hey, is.

Is the fridge just warm? Everything was fucked. Because we hadn't been in there in like a full day. And I'm just like, dude, we lost everything. I would have gladly brought you more. You just got to let me know. Well, come on. I just had a child.

It was just like, I was taking care of the fridge thing in and of itself was insane. But Life Pro Tip bought a $200, a $200 fridge off of offer up and now have that in the garage just in case. So now we have an extra fridge. Have you guys ever done the foil pack to make fish? Oh, yeah. It's so easy, dude. Elaborate? So if you don't, like, you know, if you're not going to grill it and you don't want to eat the fish raw, like, especially if you get like a flaky white fish like halibid or cod or something like that.

And you don't want to stink up your house. Oh, okay. No smell, dude. So, you know, if you pan, sear it, it's going to stink up the house a bit. Yes. You know, for like 24 hours. So all you do is you take the raw fish. You can also stick some vegetables and stuff.

in there. You just take a piece of foil, put each filet in the foil, put it like a teaspoon of olive oil over the top and it kind of falls off the sides and goes to the bottom, squirt a bunch of lemon juice. I put some like calamata olives and capers on there and some dill. Then you, you seal it up tight and the liquids, the lemon juice and the olive oil, steam it in the oven at 400 for like, I'd probably do like 10 minutes and then check it. And it's just perfect, man. Like juicy, steamed, you know, like basically steams in the olive oil and lemon juice. No smell. It's fantastic. Easy, easy to do. That works. The other thing about that recipe is it works with every fish.

There's not one fish that you can try that with where you're like, oh, I really wish I'd done it another way. Like it always cooks the fish nicely that way. And you, and is it easy, is it harder to overcook it this way? No, I fucked up last night. Oh, right. I overcooked mine because I was doing other shit and just like left it in like probably a minute, minute and a half too long. So it's just a little bit chewer than it should have been and less flaky. But you just check it.

Can we put out some special paid videos that are just like cooking classes? Dude, I have thousands of fish, lobster, crab, mushroom meat recipes that I've gathered over there. I have a little like shitty notebook filled with them that have all penciled down, down in my house. Can we just get together and put together a cooking video? Every time we're there, you're cooking some, you're doing some. you're doing something with fish. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I have to justify my addiction to killing fish by making them delicious. So, yeah. I love that, though. That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. Use all the fish. Dude, we could definitely do a series of cooking tips on wild caught stuff.

Like, I would love to do that. Oh, man. I've been pitching that for 10 years of all the wrong places. So, yeah, no. Cooking shows are so huge right now. Like, Post Malone as a cooking show, a rapper. I swear to God. as a cooking show? What is he just like melt a Twix bar and eat it with a spoon? No, he's like he's, I think he quit smoking weed and now he's cooking. Uh, yeah, Ludacris had a cooking show. Sebastian Manaskelko had a cooking. What? I didn't know any of that. I did know that one. I did know that one. This is what I'm talking about. This is big right now. I think, I think if you, when you add the spin on it of, of sustainable cooking and cooking, you know, and cooking this stuff that you're gathering and getting outside, like, I'm interested in this and I hate this.

podcast. You know? So it's like, I'm down. I like that. Brozner's way and let us know if you guys would watch us doing that. So yeah, I think that's a good pod. I got to get on with some work. Yeah. I got to get packing. Same. I got to go to Paris. Oh, have fun, dude. Yeah, man. Have fun. Send us a little, send us a little pick. I will. Party scene. I'm sure I'll be posting to Instagram constantly. I will because I'm a social media whore. So I will have fun. You guys enjoy your children. and I will pay for this when I get home. And, uh, good night. Good night, all.

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