Wild Times: Wildlife Education - New Mystery Species Found At Bottom Of The Ocean - The Wild Times Ep. 139

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

New mystery alien-like species have been discovered in the deep sea off the coast of Costa Rica, a new species of ring seal has been discovered in Greenland, and an incredible-looking animal has been raised off the endangered species list. Enjoy! Factor: Get 50% off with code: wild50 https://factormeals.com/wild50 Manscaped: Get 20% off and free shipping with code: WILDTIMES https://manscaped.com/ Pretty Litter: Save 20% with code: wild https://prettylitter.com/wild Magic Mind: https://www.magicmind.com/forrest FORREST gets you up to 56% off your first subscription for the next 10 days. Get 4 More Ad-Free Podcasts Every Month: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wildtimespod/subscribe https://www.patreon.com/wildtimespod/ Visit https://thewildtimespodcast.com/ now! Join The Wild Times Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ytzKBbC9Db Get your Wild Times Podcast merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch Enjoy, brosteners! TWT 139 - The Breakdown 01:30 - New Deep Sea Octopus Discovered 07:35 - Alcohol Blanket 11:35 - New Ring Seal Discovered in Greenland 18:50 - Forrest Looked For Extinct Seal / Analy Probing A Shark 22:50 - How Lack of Sleep Affects You 27:00 - Saiga Removed off Endangered List 33:40 - New Studio Talk 39:10 - 3 Truths and a Lie 49:35 - Create Your Fantasy Trail Mix 54:15 - Battle Roayle 1:06:13 - Wrapping Up Jingles made by: www.soundcloud.com/mimmkey https://www.newbelgium.com/beer/fat-tire/ #wildtimespod #podcast

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Check it out. It starts right now. Wild Time. We're going, baby. Here we go. Wild Times. Welcome, everybody. I'm your host, Forrest Galante, the broologist. Joining me is Papa P over there.

the broducer and Peter himself, Mr. Retep, the professional beer drinker. Hello. How are you? Boom. Good. Feeling good. Just going to say quickly,

I thought two weeks ago, when Peter had already been sick for two weeks or had lost his voice, he would be fine by the time we recorded today. Nope. Nope. It's gotten worse.

So if you're a doctor, a throat doctor in the audience, let us know if Peter's dying. Just keeps cycling around the house, kids, I'll never not be sick again. You're just sick for the next 18 years. Exactly. Yeah, welcome. Yeah, that is childhood. But happy to be here. Happy to be here.

All right, let's get us some news. What's going on in the world? I got one. I got one. I read this on the way down and I was like, Peter is going to freak out. What's in the news? Okay. Step on my joke. Thanks, Kyle. Well, say it again. What happened? Are you ready for this?

Yeah. Are you ready? I told you I was going to blow your mind. I'm very excited. What's your favorite animal that we talk about on the podcast? Herpes. Nope. Oh, octopus.

Very good. Sounds like Jeff Garland still. God, kill me. Octopus, yeah? Okay. What if I told you they discovered a new species? No. What if I told you they discovered two new species?

I'd be very... What if I told you, Peter, that they discovered four new species of octopuses? I would be shocked and appalled. True story. Off the coast of coast of coasts. Costa Rica, the Schmidt Ocean Institute, discovered at least four new deep sea octopus. Wow. Deep sea. Yeah. So late last year, there were expeditions conducted to sea mounts off the Pacific coast looking for new life and new types of species. And they found octopus nurseries

near hydrothermal vents. Oh, wow. So further contributing to your idea that they're alien, I was going to say, now there are octopus relying on hydrothermal energy. Bro, are you kidding me? Is that like where they're like eating the methane gas and that stuff? No, I don't think. They breathe it, right? No, neither. They don't breathe. So, okay.

So until very recently, we thought that all life on earth had to be tied to the sun. Like the sun created the energy that all life relied on. Sure. 1996, I want to say, we discovered and figured out that hydrothermal vents can generate life without the sun. So animals can live completely devoid of sunlight energy and sunlight radiation, feeding and living off of hydrothermal vents. Their entire ecosystems down there completely removed from the sun. Yeah. So all that is to say, the hydrothermal energy, much like the sun, can be utilized

multiple ways. So certain organisms can use it to create coral and grow and spawn. That then creates a food system, you know, like the spawning corals create food for small things like crabs. Sure. Crubs create food for octopus. So just very much so like the sun, and you're like, oh, are they eating the sun? Well, not really, but kind of. You know what I mean? Plants are eating sun energy is a way to look at it. Sure, yeah. Sort of the same thing. So deep down in these hydrothermal vents, meaning underwater volcanoes basically, their

entire ecosystems, and scientists just discovered four new species of octopus down there. That's wild. Is there anything interesting about what they do? Like, are these octopus cool? Yeah, do we know what they're using the thermal vents for? Well, what's cool about it is because

they're in such deep sea conditions, there's no change in seasonality, right? So up here, everything changes. That doesn't matter if you live at the equator or the top of Mount Everest, everything changes seasonally. This is like a constant state down there, right? Because the water's so deep and so dark, the temperature doesn't change, pressure doesn't change. So these animals are believed to be active year-round. And they're observed using these hydrothermal springs as the foundation of their ecosystem. So really cool. It's a warming sea floor. It allows them to lay eggs. It allows them

to, you know, just do everything. And one of them called the Dorado Octopus, was found brooding its eggs by the hydrothermal vent. So using it, like a megapode bird would use a volcano to warm its eggs. It sounds like this Dorado octopus was actually using the heat energy from the hydrothermal vent to incubate its eggs. That's crazy, dude. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Yeah. I mean, they're obviously... Look at this. Look at these guys. They're the most adaptable aliens on Earth. So what is... You said this was found at a sea mount. Do you know what a seamount is?

Yeah, it's an underwater volcano, basically. Oh, okay. So, yeah, look at this. Wow, so they actually have photos of these little, little octopus. They're adorable. Dude, look at the picture right there. That looks like the Mars attacks. It is.

It was based on that, clearly. There we go. They're incredible. This octopus based its form on the movie Mars. Absolutely. Look at that. And of course, it looks like it's glowing here. Is that just because they've lit it up with a light?

Probably. I don't know the answer to that. But, you know, a lot of creatures down that deep do glow. Yeah. They biofluoresy. So it's got to be so cold because even the water that's coming out of the hydrothermal vents, 54 degrees. It's not warm.

Wow. No, but compared to, you know, right above freezing like the rest of it, that feels like the tropics. But look at this picture of these brooding mother octopi curled up, facing their suckers outwards in defensive posture to protect their brooding eggs. So if you think of that, that's basically an inside out octopus, right? They've gone inside out, like their heads inside of this, and they're defending their clutches of eggs lying on this warm volcano.

Does it say what the depth is, Kyle, in this article? 3,000 meters. Wow. It's pretty deep. What is that in feet? 10,500 feet. Damn, that is crazy. Pretty deep.

Yish. So that's like two miles, basically, or a little less, right? Yeah. That's wild, man. Isn't that crazy? Incredible. So these guys, and these are four new species that have never been known to man before this. It's because man's not spending a lot of time two miles beneath the surface of the ocean.

At an underwater volcano. Yeah, exactly. Although that is where I'd spend more. We should do more of that. That is where I'd spend my time if I was down there. It's kind of interesting here. It says that by brooding near the hydrothermal vents, because it's warmer there, it's a shorter incubation period.

Sure. Which gives it a better chance of survival. Well, everything happens slower in the cold. Sure. It's just a fact. So by increasing your rate of your hatch rate and increasing your time to become a baby versus saying it's being an egg, you increase your likelihood of survivability. Have you ever tried to?

to drink a beer in like Chicago during the middle of winter outside? I think I told you I went to Chicago for New Year's Eve. Oh shit. I'll never do that again. Oh God. I'll never ever do that again. What just because of the cold or what? Dude, the weather, I've never been anywhere with such bad weather. Ever. I've been to the Arctic.

Money time. Yeah. I've been ever, I've been to the desert. I've been everywhere. The worst weather I've ever experienced is Chicago around New Year's. In winter. Yeah. There's sideways snow. There's upside down snow. There's top down. snow. There's ice and wet everywhere. What was your point about drinking the beer in the cold? No, I was just saying, have you ever

because everything slows down in the cold? So you drink it slower? Oh, yeah. That's interesting because I, my stepfather, the squirrel trapper, is a big Cleveland Browns fan, lifelong. Okay. So I thought it'd be fun to take them to a Cleveland Browns game and of course take my mom too, right? So I went back like a week

before Christmas there was a game on like December 19th and roads closed. massive snowstorm. Great. Yeah. And they're saying at the time, this is like 10, 15 years ago,

they're saying it's going to be the coldest on-field temperature in the history of the NFL. Oh, wow. My God. Fuck, man. So my mom's like, I'm out. Of course.

She doesn't even like football to begin with. Yeah, right. No, yeah. She likes events and she likes drinking beer. Sure. But, so anyway, she's out. Me and my stepdad, we walk. Maybe it's a mile to the stadium, not far.

From where you parked? No, no, walked from the hotel. Oh, got you. And it's, it's, it's brutal cold. Oh, God. You know, like the kind of cold where you feel the mucus in your nose freeze real quick. Yes. So we get there, there's like maybe 1,500 people at a stadium that sold like 70,000.

Oh, wow, dude. It's completely fucking empty, man. And, uh, but they're selling beers. Yeah. Of course. And the thing that's remarkable is that somehow, when you drink alcohol on an empty stomach, it's like a little winter belly feeling. feel good.

It's a blanket. It's a blanket. It's a blanket. It's a whole body. Yeah. Like I, you actually go from being like, I'm freezing. My fingers are probably black. Right.

To like, I'm actually fine. Yeah. To your beer blanket. How does that work? I don't get it. Well, I mean, I think it only happens to alcoholics. But yeah, because I get it too. I get it too.

Wait, what'd you say? Beerbelly winter blanket? Winter belly feel good. I, I, I, literally. I want a sweater that just has that around my beer belly. It says those. Just no riding up here. Yeah.

All eyes drawn to the stomach region. Winterbelly feel good. I love that saying. Let's make it in the wild time store, man. Let's do it. Somebody out there. No, someone, we have somebody creative people. Kyle pulled up an article here, the science of alcohol.

Beware the beer blanket. What? It's a thing. So what does that say there? It causes your, sorry, go ahead for us. No, I'm just going to read it. You can do it. Your science guy.

Well, it says, because I didn't know this, that alcohol causes your blood vessels to dilate, which shifts blood flow to the surface of the skin. The warm blood circulates past millions and millions of tiny cutaneous receptors found within the epidermis within the skin. Specifically, the skin's thermoreceptors. So you feel like you're warmer than you are. So, dude, I mean, not just alcoholics. And transmit this information to your brain making you feel like you're cradled in a cozy cocoon.

Dude, let's make some red sweaters that say winter belly feel good. I think we should start an entire line of booze and alcohol that this is, this is. the marketing angle. I'm with it. But do you know that feel? Do you know the feeling I'm talking about? Oh, absolutely. I live in that feeling. It's fantastic. That's how I get through every winter. Dude, are you joking? Have you ever been out at night in California with a sweatshirt? Very rarely. Right. Because you're going to drink a few beers and it's going to warm you. So you go to wherever it is the first place, you put down a beer or two and you're like, ah. Yeah. It's all good. Like sitting by a cozy fire. I mean, you guys are really shitting on my point about how it's

difficult to drink a beer in Chicago cold weather. But you know what? The more I think about it, the more you're right, you take it back. But I don't take it back. I will say, uh, though, that I do like to have a nice little sniffer of hard like whiskey or something. And if I'm outside, I'll like, but that's why you bring it. Well, that's what I'm saying. The whole reason. I'll, I'll have that outside. It'll warm me up and then I'll speed up my beer drinking. I like it. I was not trying to shit on your parade about the beer drinking. I know you weren't. It's just, uh, it is nice to have that little beer blanket. Yeah, I love it. I love it. So. So, So I got something that's in the news.

Okay. What do you got? Came across my teak. Your brand new teak table desk. Yeah. Near and dear to me, I've talked about it a lot on the show. People are probably sick of hearing me talk about Greenland, but I love it. It's one of the coolest places in the world.

So this news comes out of Alulisat, Greenland. Lulisat. Which I've spent a lot of time. Oh, you have? Oh, yeah. That's not the capital, is it? No, No, Nook is the capital. Oluasat's a little farther north.

Okay. Okay. It's the worst weather. Yes, but amazing access to northern. Like the fjords around there. Okay. And a lot of islands that are very cool. What's a fjord?

No, you're joking. I swear to God. No, come on. Wait, stop. Stop. Kyle. No, no, no. What is a fjord? Guess.

A fjord. A fjord is like a farm in winter. No. No. A fjord is a winery in winter. No. Okay, wait, stop. Third, we're going to give you a clue before number three. It's a geographical anomaly.

A fjord is a valley in winter. How would you describe a fjord? A fjord is a, I guess I don't know, but. A tier of water with a bunch of wood islands and the water. Jagged mountains sticking on a bit. That's a fjord. Listen, I guarantee. A valley with water in the bottom.

That's, yeah. That's, I really, honestly, that's the first thing I've learned on this. podcast in a whole while. Oh, so, Kyle, pull up a picture here of Jacob Chauvin, Ice Fjord. Jacob Chauvin. And you get one crack at spelling that correct.

Yeah. So, why are they like that? So yeah, click on like one of the good picks. So tell us about Jacob Chauvin. So you go to Alulisat to see Jacob Chauvin, which is just like this unbelievably impressive. Glacier. Yeah.

Well, it's an ice fjord, really. carved by glaciers, right? I would think so. Yeah, I'm pretty sure a fjord is created by a glacier. Oh, that's interesting. I think that's how fjords are made. Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, so basically you go, I've been on that rock.

You just look out and there's just icebergs. And during the summer, when most people visit Greenland, they're calving. The ice fjords are and the icebergs. Yeah, so you just see massive icebergs. Giant splashes, the whole thing. Huge waves come in. It's a very cool place. But anyway, let me just real quick before.

you move on that from that. So I'm picturing you kind of sit there. It's completely silent and you just hear the icebergs start cracking. Yeah, and then you kind of look to find it and then you see it fall in. That sounds incredible. He sells and got to the news part of this news story. I'm just interested. He's painting a great place. I will

also say near Jacob Chauvin Ice Fjord there's probably just like a, I don't know, 10,000 acre area of just these rolling sort of tundra covered fun, climbing rock hills. Oh, cool. And you just cruise out for a high band I would like every couple days put my headphones in and just walk. Oh wow. And you're just like

climbing up shit. Nice. And you're like, oh, I can't get down this way. And you go back down. You go another way. It's really, really fun. You're an explorer. I used to be. But in a Lulisat Greenland, local hunters, so they hunt seal. Right? And they eat it. Yeah. They eat it, but they mostly feed it to their dogs, their sled dogs. Oh, okay. So it's, you know, super high fat content. For sure. And so they'll hunt seal and use that to feed their sled dogs throughout the winter. Hunters that were cruising around on a boat discovered a new species of seal. Oh, wow. We got octopus.

We got seal. Wow. It's a new species special. It's a new species kind of day. Yeah. What do you see in there for us? So it's a ring seal. Yeah, beautiful.

So I think ring seals are amongst the most beautiful seals there are. So, I mean, I haven't seen this. But yeah, as you said, found in Iceland, new species. what makes it different from the other ring seals? Well, they, so they purported that they found this seal. Okay. And then researchers, Greenlandic and Danish researchers went out, and their study was just published in the Journal of Molecular Ecology.

Okay, so they did do it on a molecular level. Yeah. We know that its DNA is different. That's right. So the can, cangia, I hope I'm pronouncing it right, kanja seals have been genetically isolated from their Arctic counterparts for over 100,000 years. Oh, wow.

And it says here that they're characterized by larger size and different fur color and pattern compared to the common Arctic ring seal. Because I looked at it, I was like, oh, that's a ring seal, but obviously the patterning is slightly different. I don't know Arctic seals all that well. Yeah.

But I got you. I mean, they are beautiful creatures, aren't they? Well, tell us a little bit about the ring seal. I'm sure that this has lots in common with it. Yeah, I mean, it is, I think, a type of rings seal. Yeah, it sounds like it's a subspeed. Are they just, are they, how are they different? No, it's a new species, I guess, genetically.

So how are they different? I don't know. Obviously, what's happened here, 100,000 years is not a lot of time. It sounds like a lot of time to us, but for ever, in an evolutionary time, that's not a lot of time. Okay. So they've been isolated for 100,000 years, meaning for 100,000 years, these two different populations, the Arctic ring sealed and this new Greenlandic ring sealed, whatever it's called, yeah, have been a part, right? So now over that time, they've started to genetically drift and they will likely more

morphologically drift a little bit too, meaning they will change a little bit, hence the larger patterns and the bigger rings and blah, right? In another 500,000 years, they won't look at all similar. Right? So it's like, this is early evolution, right? So now researchers, hunters, they've gone, oh, check it out. These seals look a little bit different. Something's up. I don't think it is the same species. Let's bop one on the head and grab a fur sample and take some DNA and figure it out. Now we do them side by side. Oh, we're right. It is actually a different species. If you were to fast forward in time, half a million years, a million years, one of them would be 20 feet long and one would be five foot long and one would have a pink nose

and one would have a green nose. You know what I mean? They'd change. But because they've only had 100,000 years to change, they still look very, very similar and they probably do pretty much all the same things. They're just isolated. So they're at the early stage of evolving into their own species, basically. So is a ring seal any different than just like a ring seal obviously has, it looks like longer fur than a regular seal. And the fur is, is that, does the pattern on their

fur have anything to do with their environment or what's up with that? I don't know. It's probably some kind of camouflage. I'm not really sure. I don't know. They hang out on ice drifts a lot, you know? Yeah. So maybe it makes them a little harder to see for polar bears or, yeah, who know. Because they are essentially just a fat

meat sack with a tiny, cute head that want to kiss. Totally. All those are, I mean, you know, Like what makes them different from another seal? I mean, every seal has its own behavior, own morphology, own social structure. You know, it's just another type of- It's like dogs. Yeah, different species.

But it's cool. It's, you know, the only way we discover new large species in today's world for the most part is by something like this. It's not like, oh, let's go on an expedition to a jungle and we found a new 500-pound animal, right? It doesn't really work that way. This is how we're finding the new 500-pound animals. Forest looked for a seal once. You know what he did to try and find a seal? Kind of.

No? He took a giant Q-tip and swabbed the anus of a giant tiger shark. Put it up the bum. How did he feel about that, the shark? Didn't mind. It didn't seem to mind. Sort of just kind of like... Okay, well, obviously, why? How big was the tiger shark?

It was a big shark. It was probably a 12-foot shark. There's a clip floating around where you see me doing it. It went pretty viral. See, if you can find it, Kyle. Yeah, I'd love to see this clip. I mean, but I remember when we were first in pre-production on the Caribbean Monk Seal episode, and this idea came up. And then you were like, let me research and see if this is like scientifically viable to find the genetic material of what it ate. And then I remember you calling me and being like, it's legit.

Like, I really want to do this. And I was like, yes. Right. But then it was, then the question was how do I stick a Q-tip up a shark's bum? Right. Well, that's the fun part, right? Well, call it fun. You were on the right clip there, Kyle.

Is bull sharks, no? No, they just don't. It's just animal planet doesn't know the difference. You know, bull shark and a tiger shark, which is insane because it's animal planet. You see that from a bull shark. I mean, that is insane. That is insane. That's on their official YouTube.

This is on the YouTube animal planet with five and a half million subs. And they're calling the only striped shark in the world. The only thing Peter could go, that's definitely a tiger shark, a bull shark. No, I definitely would have said that's a great white. Oh, well, you're dumb. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, it's in here somewhere. But yeah, here it is.

See the Q-tip in my hand there? So go down. Big shark comes in. I'm like, uh-uh. You're not going to eat me today. I'm holding my breath this whole time, by the way. Oh, yeah. It's a free dive.

That's a free dive. Oh, wow. Roll underneath and go, hey, give me that. Give me that dick. Colokal. Good. Cloaca. I don't know.

I didn't have to really tickle the whole belly and then just boop. We'll pop inside there. Wow, dude. You nailed that shit. Yeah. You found that cloaca. no problem. Look at this.

This is such, such beautifully shot footage, by the way. That was a pretty long breath hold, wasn't it? It was. I think it was like over two minutes. Is that your candy bar?

You're promoting right there now? That's the poop on the... I know. It's very dirty. I mean, he jammed it up the thing's asshole. Yeah, it did go shenanely.

It didn't mind. It didn't mind. No, didn't mind. But that's all shot in high speed. But yeah, and then we ran it against the lab to see if it had been eaten anything

and didn't really get any results. But it's still... It's about the journey, man. you know, not the destination. And the story time. And funny story about that show. I remember it was at the end of season two of Extincter Alive. And there is one island that the Caribbean Monk Seal had been reported of quite regularly

being on or cited at long after their extinction. And Kyle might be able to find it was off the coast of Jamaica. It was so far and difficult to get to. And I was so tired and frustrated. I still remember I was in Indonesia. I think it was Indonesia. And Pat had gone home early. And I called him and our other partner, Eric.

and I was like, I have to get a plane and go to this island. And the logistics and the cost were nightmarers. The cost was insane. Nightmarish. Like, nightmarry. Who's the guy that does the funding on the trip? Steve Rockmail. What did he say when you asked me?

It's going to be $50,000. $1,000. And I just remember, like, I was so tired and frustrated. And I was, like, yelling at Patrick and Eric on the phone. Like, this is the way we have to do it. This is the place we have to go. And there was like, they were like, there's no money left to go and do this. Like you've been to every corner of the world on a shoestring budget chasing these animals.

And I just remember like being so frustrated and flustered and being like, this stupid. Why am I doing this? And then I like slept for like 14 hours from wherever I was and woke up and I was like, I'm an idiot. Why was I fighting with them over that? Yeah. There's a million other islands in the Caribbean to go look at. I don't need to go to that island. You have a tendency to get into moods when you're not well rested.

Well, I'm never well rested. I know. That's what I mean. Dude, so I was traveling around a bit since we last potted. Okay. Looking at some spots in Oregon. And we had like a local location scout from Oregon, but she was originally from Australia. No sleep on this trip because it was like fly in, scout a ranch, like drive through the night to get to the next ranch, sleep two hours, get up.

It was that for a few days. How do you even function, man? We do these for so long. No idea. But you ever get used to it? I mean, you don't, right? It's like a cold plunge. You get used to it to the point of like, okay, I mean, Pat, you weigh in too.

But you get used to it to the point of where you're like, all right, this is what I have to do and I will be functional. Yes. But you're never like, oh, I feel well rested or, oh, I'm going to have lots of energy. But the weird thing is when my alarm goes off at home, I'll kind of get up. I might snooze it. That's what I'm going to ask. But it's when you're in that mode, it's like alarm. Oh, gone.

I was literally going to ask that exact question because it's so damn. difficult to get up when you've only gotten two hours of sleep. The time from alarm to like downstairs at breakfast is like six minutes. So we're all fucked. And so we get we get up 5 a.m. There's a little drive-thru coffee place called the human bean. Apparently it's a chain around there. Were there beans made out of human meat?

I don't know. So we drive through to get some coffee to get going. And our Australian fixer lady, we all put our order in it's a drive-thru window and the nice young woman who is working says would you like a chocolate

covered coffee bean on top of course and so all of us in the car the producers all just go no no thank you she goes yeah I do fancy a bit of chocolate bean and so we're like

oh god and so then she gets her coffee and it's just on top of the to-go lid there's just one little chocolate Let Bean and she just grabs it and is like, fancy the bean. And she's just like talking and driving, right? Sounds lovely. So like six hours into the day, I say to my partner, because we're so sleep deprived,

I just go, I'm fucking done with her, man. Like I'm done. I can't be around her another minute. And he's like, he's like, me too. He's like, why I go. I'm going to sound like a bad person for saying this, the espresso bean. Bonjour, compadre. It's the price line negotiator.

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Yeah. 16 years. He doubles over on the guy. I've never seen him laugh so hard. And I'm like, what? He was like, dude, as soon as she took the bean, I was done with her. I was like, this is only because we have slept eight hours and three days.

Correct. It shouldn't bug a single human being. Why would anyone... It spent the entire day arcing you. There's also, there's also... And I was like, we're not hiring her. No, you can't. And the human body brain is not meant to know how to fight that feeling.

No. Not a male brain anyways. I mean, you're just like, that's it. I cannot get over this like until I sleep for 14 hours. Yes. exactly what four said. All right, Peter, if I were to go to AI and say, I know you do. I've been, I've been fooling around with the Dolly lately. You know, the Dolly image generator? Of course. Pat's was the first one to show me this because I've been doing this for like decks and stuff. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's great, but you really got to play with it. If you are like,

build me this exact thing with 15 points, it just freaks out. You got to go like one thing and then this is great. Now add this. Okay, now scale that back. Now add this. It's actually the same. same way with chat GPT. Oh, interesting. You really got a baby. It'll never get it like with a bunch of points. Yeah. In the beginning.

But one thing at a time. But it's actually incredible once you do get to the point. You're like, holy shit. Like it actually did what I wanted. Oh man. The deck that I just put together last week for this new idea, the images in it, I couldn't have got better images. Like they look like photos of the thing that I constructed in my head, which is impossible to,

it doesn't exist. Yeah, yeah. Um, anyway, all that being said, if I were to go on to, Dolly, which is the AI image generator, and say, draw me an antelope that does a lot of coke. I want to show you what animal would come up, okay? Look at this thing. See if you've seen one of these before, Peter. I think we've probably talked about them because I'm a big, big fan of them. What do we got here? Well, Kyle decided to just pull up shenanigans. There we go. Oh, yeah. I mean, look at the nose is built to sniff cocaine. Isn't that sweet? I love it.

It's a beautiful cocaine. Dude, I will say it's also a Star Wars. So what's it's a cool? The siga. The siga. The horns are, I've never seen horns like that that are literally like an extension of the eyeballs. Yeah, it's like wild. That's a good point. It's a good point. It's just a weird and wonderful creature. I probably should have gone more with the alien joke than the cocaine joke. But I mean, just look how weird and cool it is. Beautiful animal. But sadly, as you may or may not know, until very, very recently in as recently as 2005, they were critically endangered. with less than 50,000 of them left in the wild. Of course. And as with everything, as you know, critically endangered means they are on the road to extinction. Right. There's very little likelihood for them to bounce back. Well, it's not all doom and gloom.

The Saga Antelope, once critically endangered, has been downlisted to near threatened, which is a huge jump. Yeah, it is. How many rungs is that? Kyle, pull up the list. So it goes vulnerable threat goes, yeah, I'm going to butcher this. It goes threatened, vulnerable. No, vulnerable, near vulnerable, threatened, endangered, critically endangered.

Something like that. Kyle's pulling it up here. But anyway, it's gone all the way from critically endangered, meaning it is definitely going to go extinct without some sort of, yeah, here it is right here. It goes from not evaluated, which not evaluate and data deficient are kind of bullshit because they basically mean the same thing. It means we don't really know, you know, and not evaluated means we've never tried. data deficient typically means we've tried, but we don't have enough data to come up with an analysis. They're kind of both bullshit. But where it really comes in is least concern, near threatened,

vulnerable, endangered, critically endangered, and then on to extinct. Gotcha. Okay? So they were critically endangered. They skipped the whole endangered category because scientists have been doing such a great job and went all the way to vulnerable, which is huge. Near threatened. Oh, sorry, near threatened. Sorry. Two rungs. Yeah, yeah. Jumped two rungs. Yeah. my bad. But yeah, so in Kazakhstan, they went from 50,000 animals in as recently as 2005 to 1.9 million individuals. That's incredible. Amazing. Yeah. So they just reassess the species. What happened? How did they? Successful breeding, you know? Wow. This is one of, it's like very, the opposite of some of the animals we've talked about in the past where I've explained how

like reproductive success is low and so difficult. They just came in with major anti-poaching measures, big habitat protections, community engagement, which is huge, something we definitely don't talk enough about on this, is like getting the community involved and excited to conserve the species. It's like one of the things that zoos do best, right? Yeah, but the arguments for zoos. Yes, but I think, you know, when it comes to community engagement, it's really much more about, like, developing countries, you know? Okay. And the reason being, it's like, here, you're not like, all right, I have to go out and shoot this thing to live. Sure. You know what I mean? I don't have to go out and kill the deer and eat it. Where you get the community engagement is like, can you turn

the species into something that people are going to travel to Kazakhstan to sea? Is there ecotourism around it? Is there another methodology? So instead of, instead of, hey, let's go hunt Saiga and eat meat, we gave you guys a herd of cattle that stay in this confined area. Something like that. So it's involving the community in a way that doesn't negatively impact the species. But yeah, all of this and the addition of ranger teams to patrol the areas have made. massively contributed to the Saiga's recovery. And I think anytime you see something like that, it's a story that I want to touch on. So 20 years, it went from basically 50,000 to 1 to 2 million, 1.2 million. Yeah. Isn't that amazing? That is insane, dude. And it's the kind of animal that,

at least for myself, when I look at it, I'm like, one day I'll take my son to see these in the wild, because you guys know, my son's a total animal nut. Yeah. Like one day I'll take them on a trip to see them. Whereas, you know, 20 years ago, I remember thinking about them in 2005. I'd be like, well, they won't be around when I have kids. Yeah. It's incredible. Think about this, right? So the population of this animal in the world

went up by 4,000% 20 years. Yeah. So basically 200% a year. Yeah. It's so wild. So it was just, it must have just been the poaching

that it was just getting just decimated. They're just getting hammered. Yeah. Just relentless pressure. And it's a really good like microcosm for what happens if we relax on the pressure. Like if I think I've told you guys this before, there was a study put out that showed that if we left the world's oceans alone for eight

years, they'd be back to 99% precondency, like 99% of what they were before humans ever touched them. That's crazy. You think that's true? I think it's close. Close. You know, like, will all the fish be the same size and everything? No, because some fish are slow growing.

But the point is, like, if you stop fishing a reef for 10 years, all of those slow growing fish will recolonize it and then slowly get bigger and bigger and breed more and more and more. But instead, it's like, every day we've got a fish. that same spot. We got to catch the sharks. We got to hammer this. We got to hammer that. So it's just the relentless pressure. It's not like, it's not like the take is too much. It's the relentless take. It's the never-ending pressure. Yeah. That leads to the collapse. Well, life, life really does find a way to, uh, to grow, you know, anywhere, anywhere it can. For example, uh, you know, you get like a fungus on your toe. I have a buddy who's had a fungus on

his toe. I'm not kidding. It's been like two decades. Oh, he'll never listen to this, so I'll say it out loud. On my next Shark Week show, which is coming up fairly soon here, I'm going to get a photo of Johnny Harrington's toenails. I know. You've got to laugh at Kyle. What's wrong with his toenails? Bro, it's like, it's like a fungus farm. Bro. I've never seen anything like it. It's disgusting. And he's like, I've, I'm terrified to be barefoot around him because I don't want my feet to be like that. No. Yeah. And I've, I've said to him for years, he's just like, nah, they'd be like this for the teenager. He doesn't care. He just leaves it. Same with my buddy. Same with my buddy, dude. And while he's

tried to fight it after he got married and his wife was like, you got to do something about your foot. Yeah. And it's so, this thing, you can't get rid of it. They don't... You can. You got to rip off all your tone out. You gotta cut your toes off. Bro, I will strap Johnny down and grab a pair of fucking Leathermans and rip every one of his tone in. I'd love to see that. I don't know. He's pretty strong. Yeah, that's one guy. I don't know. So we're here in the new studio. Just quick dogleg here. Sure.

Here in the new studio. It's lovely. We're enjoying it. Kyle has his producer room in there. And he is having major problems with his mic stand. It's kind of crazy. About five minutes ago, I just heard a, boom. Yeah.

And it was that he went to take a sip of his water. It got caught in the mic cord and he smashed his microphone. Is that what happened? I heard it and I saw you giggling, but I didn't know what took place. So when we were setting up, I had seen the fourth mic and I just, assumed it's for when we had a guest. And so I had brought like the old mic that we had for Kyle at my house. And it's just like nice. It's on a little stand there. And these, this is what he has in there. I'm like, it's like, you got a man. You can't have it in front of your face the whole time. And I knew

this was going to happen. And so I put the extra mic there just in case. And he continues to use this thing. By the way, I figured out how to how to properly drink this magic mine thing turned me on to. if you sip it slowly. Oh, that's it for you? I like it better this way. Same. Same. I drink.

It feels. Yeah, I just feel like I'm zoned. Oh, dude. I'm in the zone. I drink a full one of these after you had given them to us. Yes. And it was great. And I was so on the ball.

But then I just, I didn't know what to do with myself. And I was like, I don't have enough things to do. I have to clean your whole house immediately. Yeah. And now, and now I've been sipping on it. Good. I like that.

My mind is magic. Well, I slam mine. I love it because it just keeps me so like dialed and zen. Well, you got problems, too. I do. I do. Yeah. Well, you're also addicted to smelling salts.

I, during my backpack right there if anybody needs Eddie. Can I watch you do one on air real quick? Of course. All right. I don't even want them open. Talk them likes yourself. Let's go.

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Yes. And she asked me about this. She goes, hey, I have a really good idea for a game. Who can I send it to? I was like, send it to producer Edwin. So I have no idea what the game is. I haven't played it. Yeah.

So she wasn't, was she like, I can't just tell you? No, she didn't. She didn't want to. She didn't want me to like start Googling it or know what the answers were. So I just looped her with Edwin. So did she actually write the game? I think so. I don't really know. Bring me the backpack.

Bring me the backpack. I'll find him. Three truths and a lie. This is a new one. Three truths and a lie. Submitted by Forrest's wife. I love how it says that on there. Edwin always has to give credit where credits do.

Yeah. He likes to give credit. Oh, I thought they were here. Hold on. Maybe they're in another pouch. Or maybe it's too much. Kyle, I said keep the bag over there. do not give it to Forrest whatever you do.

It's not good for the camera. It's stupid. It's bad. I threw them in. All right. I knew he would do this. So, Kyle, how does three truths and a lie work? Basically, there are four statements here.

We're going to go round by round. There's four statements in the name of the game. There's three truths and one lie. And you guys are just going to guess which one's the lie. All right. So here's how we do it. Because what I don't want to have happen is that you just go with whatever Forrest says. Absolutely.

So he's going to read the four facts. Okay. Three of them are true. One's a lie. Okay. And then we're going to go one, two, three, and then put up the amount of fingers of which one it is that you think is the lie. Yeah, Roger. So if it's the first one, one, if it's the last one, four.

All right. Let's go, Kyle. Okay. All right. Round one. This is the first statement. Raccoons have an extra set of opposable thumbs on their hind paws. Okay.

Okay. And number two? Number two. The sound of the clash of two big, big horn sheep can be heard from. from a mile away. Okay. Three, the giant armadillo has the most teeth

of any land mammal with 74 teeth. Okay. And finally, chickens are the closest living relatives of the T-Rex. I do a countdown until we do the number.

All right. So one of those is a lie. One's a lie. I think I think, okay. All right. Ready? Yeah. Three, two, one.

It is number one. Fuck off. What? That's why I said fact. You're such a son of a bitch. What? raccoons have an extra set of opposable thumbs on their hind paws is a lie. A lie. They do not. They do not have any opposable thumbs. Correct.

So, chickens are the closest living relatives of the T-Rex? Isn't that crazy? That I know. Yeah. That's wild. And also, the number three is kind of debated. Or maybe it's not debated. But I thought it was possums and then it recently became Armadillo. So there's something there. Yeah, of course. That's why I picked it. Fuck you, Edwin. All right. All right. Edu. What else did I do come up with? All right. Round two. The California condor population fell to below 20 individuals in the 1980s. Second here, Sandhill cranes rub iron-rich mud on their gray feathers, turning them a rusty brown color. Okay. The segments of a rattlesnake tail are like rings on a tree. Each rattle accounts for one year of their life.

Mantis shrimp are older than dinosaurs by approximately 400 million years. That's a lot of million years. Were there even animals 400 million years before? I'm serious. Do me a favor and just don't talk because... I like throwing you off. He hates that you set up the structure because he was just going to copy me. No, I wasn't, but he's now he's trying to do it one way or the other because he knows the last one.

I'm torn between two of these here. All right, let's do the countdown. All right. Ready? Three, two, one. It is number three. Oh, I was going to say. Rattlesnakes was the lie.

Although an important indicator of age, every rattlesnake is born with a functional. rattle with multiple segments and as the rattlesnake aged, the number increases, but not in a linear family. Yeah, so that's not, Edwin, terrible explanation. A rattlesnake grows a button on its tail every time it sheds its skin. Okay. That's where the ring comes from. So that's actually, that can be, if they eat a lot, that can be five times in a year. If they don't eat much, that can be zero times in a year. Okay. Okay. So mantis shrimp are older than dinosaurs by 400 million years. I didn't know that. I mean, I knew they were evolutionarily old, but 400 million years older than dinosaur.

So I saw... Good on them, man. Something came out just the other day. It was a praying mantis that was several millions of years old in a piece of amber. Oh, cool. I'm like, it looks the exact same as the one I saw on the hood of my car the other day. Yeah. This is crazy, dude.

They haven't even evolved. Is this the one you saw? Must be, right? Yes, yes. That's the one, dude. I mean, if you're a praying mantis, you don't need to evolve. No. They're amazing, dude.

If they were six feet tall, like, they just... take over the whole world. I've said it many times. I'm quite certain that aliens in some movies are based off the praying man. Oh, for sure. The life cycle is kind of depressing. Well, yeah, because, well, the male gets... I don't know how

true that is. Is that true that the female kills the male after the mate? In some species, yes. Got it. But no, the mom lays the egg sack and then sits there by it and dies. Oh, like the one you found on your screen? Exactly. So they die very

shortly after, but they don't leave the egg sack, and then the babies can come out and have a little snacker. It's pretty incredible how when you think about how balanced life other than humans has, like, has gotten or how it is, you know, like, things are in balance. Like something's born and things die. And then you have us who like just exponentially keep increasing because we're fighting diseases, we're fighting illnesses. Everything.

Yeah. But think about like, we all have children. Yep. Okay. you get to have sex. You get to have sex. Not with your lovely wife. With your lovely wife.

And then afterwards, maybe eat some pizza. Have a glass of wine. Yeah. Watch a movie. What's the point? Well, then 10 months later, you go into the hospital. Your wife gives birth and you hold the baby. Uh-huh.

Ugliest thing you've ever seen. And everyone's happy. Well, yeah. And then. The other option, if we were. praying bantus was you have sex, your wife kills you? Yeah. And then 10 months later, she goes and has the baby and then just dies and the baby eats her. Yep. I don't think it's that bad of a move. Well, you end on a high note. You're like, I just had sex. I'm good. I don't

have to deal with anything else. Yeah. It's true. I just like picturing a newborn baby just like, she incubates these little fuckers for 10 months. I mean, it's just as bad having to take care of them. I'd rather die. All right. Round three, round three. The final round. Three truth's in a lie.

All right. Mule deer have seven different types of scent glands to help them communicate, including one between their hooves. Mule deer. Okay. Mule deer. Not a real animal. Got the fuck up.

The Etrusian shrew. Etruscan. Etruscan. Etrusian. Okay. The Etrusian shoe. The Etrusian true. has to consume six times its body weight every day just to survive.

Okay. False. Great white sharks are the only species of shark without a nictitating membrane. Nictitating membrane. Protective third, which is a protective third eyelid. Instead, they roll their eyes backwards to protect their eyes. Finally, butterflies have taste buds on their feet to help with identifying which leaves to lay their eggs on. Okay.

This is very difficult. He's almost, Edwin's almost doing things to play into forests' expertise areas. Dude, he's such a little. So I'm like the shark thing. Okay. All right. Go ahead. All right.

Three, two, one. It is number three. Oh, damn it, I got that wrong. Mule deer. Fuck off. Of course they're a real animal, you idiot. But I, uh, I've seen white sharks feed a lot and I've seen their roll their eyes back, but I didn't know they were the only species.

Oh, no, I guess they're not the only species. without a nixing. That's what it is. Right, right, right. So that's the number of sharks. By the way, remember what you just said? He's using that against Forrestes as well. He used it again. See, he gave it. He effed me. He did. Yeah. He bent me over and got me. I love it. Um, the, the fact here is that there's other sharks that do that, such as the Shorffin-Maco, Sand Tiger, Basking. I knew that too. That's annoying. I knew that. I like a nice bossing shark. There was actually some in California a few days ago, I think. Basking sharks? They keep fine. They keep, it's, dude.

Dude, just don't even get me started. Why? What's going on? It's like my number one thing. It's like my number one animal bucket list is to get a basking shark. We did this once before on the pot. I showed you my buddy Austin Derry's videos where he went and found basking sharks off of San Diego. And every year there's like somewhere in the range of like five to six of them seen by fishermen. And it's just never me.

It's just never me. And here's the problem because the more I work to do things like see basking sharks, the less time I can spend on the water to do things. to do things like find basking sharks. So it's a real nice catch-22 that I'm stuck in there. You're such an interesting character. Thank you. And then, you know, basking sharks, it's not like a pot of orcas orcas or something.

You see one, you call your buddy, and it's gone 30 seconds later, right? Sure. It's not like you can go out and find it the next day. They don't bask or what? They do. They bask under the sunlight. But you're just not, you kind of track them. There's nowhere.

You're not going to see them spouting like an orca. You know what I mean? It's just like you ran into one amazing. And then that's it. Like, nobody finds it again the next day. So, yeah. Well, one day. One day.

Second largest shark in the world, by the way. Oh, really? What's the first? Other than the Meg. Yes. Wait. Yeah, you go first. The great white.

I don't know. It's the only shark I know. You're saying what's the largest shark? Yeah. A whale shark. Oh, shit. Well, that makes sense. A whale shark.

Whales are large. So we had a lot of time in the car. And I threw this out while I was up in Oregon. A lot of time driving around. And I sort of threw this out, and it was kind of interesting. Let's see. All right, here's what you're going to do. All right.

Let's go. You're going to make your fantasy trail mix. Trail mix. Four items. Okay. What's in your fantasy trail mix? Oh, I got this. Wow.

Go ahead. Just go straight off the mat. Yeah, yeah. What are you for? Peanuts. Okay. M&Ms. Honeyed pecans.

Have you ever had honeyed pecans? Like where they have little crystallized. No, but it sounds delicious. It sounds a math. And raisins. Raisins, M&Ms, honeyed pecans,

and then a touch of salt on the peanuts or unsalted? Yeah, no, they're like salty, crispy, like caramelized, you know,

I thought you were saying yours and I'm like, no, it's the exact, yeah, those pecans. You ever had those? They're unbelievable.

Yeah, I have had those. Oh, they sell these now in those little tubes at the store. These are like semi-new so you can drink them.

And they put this crystallize on all the different nuts. They do it on cashews and they put it in there and they cost like $7 for a little tube. But they're so good. All the other nuts are just, are just trash. And these are just so good to me. So you went three, sort of three sweeties and then the peanut for the salt.

Correct. Okay. Yeah. I'm a sugar fiend. Yeah. No, it's good energy if you're out on the trail. True. Yeah.

Can I tell you mine? Please. Of course. I'm going to go with little cut up, cut up into like cute little cubes, cut up pieces of slim jim. Wow. Oh. Okay. Ugh.

Disgusting. Did not see this come. Okay. Disgusting. mate. Keep going. Cut up cubes of Slim Jim. Little cubes of cheddar cheese.

Dude, you're going to keep this in a warm backpack or what? I'm hiking in the cold, mate. All right. Cut up cubes of cheddar cheese. I am then going to throw cashews. Salted. Of course. Salted.

It's kind of function as the cracker. Yeah. You're making a burger. To my cheese and pepperoni. A piece of lettuce. No, little cut and half. green olives. Dude, that's fucking heinous.

Kyle goes, oh my God, from the studio. This is the worst thing you've ever said on this podcast. I guarantee you it would be delicious, though. Yeah. Because it's like meaty and salty and fatty. I hear you, by the way, Peter. I'm not being on his team forever. I know what you're worried about is the wetness

of the olives getting on your hands. There's a lot of wetness in general in this bag. Yikes. So, I mean, the first thing I'm going to go, I really liked Forrest's M&Ms in there. Sure. The way that they crunch and it's just like the hard candy shell and the chocolate's delicious.

Such a treat. I'm going to go with crunchy Cheetos. Yum. With Eminemps? That's right. Match made in heaven. Really? Crunchy Cheetos. I'm joking. It's insanity. Shut your fucking butt. You meant it and then when he said it you're like, oh, we can double team

rep. A sweet with Cheetos? Olives. Olives go with cheese and pepperoni. What about a stuffed blue cheese olive in your fucking trail sack. Sick big trail sack. All right. What's going to go with your M&Ms and Cheetos? Listen, I'm going to go Eminem's Cheetos. You got to have a nut in there. It's going to be a cashew of. And then, you know, I'd like to have just like a little squirt of fat tire. Just in there just in there.

Wow. And you're worried about the moisture content of his. No, he said that. I don't care about the moisture content. He's got an olive in there. That's ludicrous. All right. There's obviously a thought process here, right? Or you just wanted to talk about trailmix for a minute. He's like, no, just want to talk about it. Just sort of a random thing to talk about. Fair enough. I thought you were going somewhere. Let's get Kyle. Kyle, wait in for a second. What would you put in yours?

Okay. I've been thinking about it. So I can tell. Yeah. That's what. Oh my God. Flailing. Obviously,

cashew is best nut. Yeah. Small plantain chips. Okay. Not bad. Salted plantain chips. Kind of sweet. Maybe a little bit.

A little bit sweet. Dried mango. Ooh, that's nice. I like that. Bit of a tough chew. Olive's. Maybe. Yep.

small. Cut up. Yep. Yep. Okay. Small cheddar cubes. And probably just M&Ms. Okay.

Wow. So three M&Ms on the... I mean, they're a staple. They literally... It's a trail mix staple. Yeah. So, hey, Bruster's way in. Let us know whose trail mix you would eat.

Is it any three of the normal trail mixes or the burger in a bag? And then tell us what you would have in your trail mix bag. Yeah, let us know. If there's anybody who has olives, meat, cheese, What was your other one? Some kind of nut? Oh, yeah, cashier. Ah, cash. It's the bun. It's the crap.

I'm surprised he didn't just go, you know, those little pieces of toast. You got checks mix. Oh, yeah. The olive is literally the green vegetable in the burger. Yep, correct. All right. What do we got here? Kyle, play the jingle.

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Nice. Battle Royal. Battle Royal! Forest set it up. Yeah, you got it. This one came in from a brosner from Ninja Moose. Here's the battle.

A 1,650-pound grizzly bear is hunting you. You have $1,000 to build your army to defend you from the bear. You can pick however animals, many animals you want, but you can't go over budget. So, there are specific choices here.

So there's some math involved, okay? You're going to have to pull this up so people can see it in the app. Let's see. Okay, run me down the menu. I will. So here are your choices. And obviously, no repeats. We're all going to have to pick our own.

Once it's picked, it's off the table. There's only nine here, so, okay. Yeah, that's good. It makes it, makes it tough. Snuckruff. Honey badger for $40. Grey Wolf for $100, Cheetah for $175.

Hineana for $200, Jaguar for $300, African Lion for $500, Silverback Gorilla for $750, and a Bengal tiger for $800. So what I think we should do here... Yeah, it's got to be a little bit different. I think what we should do here

is that everyone comes up with what theirs is off the menu, and you can have multiples. Right. So you have $1,000. Right. You can have... You could do 10 honey badgers and you still have $600. Exactly right. Okay.

Exactly right. Okay. But I think we should be able to repeat. Well, I don't think it should be a snake draft. I think we should just, we gotta go. Whatever, that's fine. I'm up for any of it. Sounds good. Doesn't have to be a snake draft. I don't care. All right. Peter, where's your mind going? So the biggest grizzly bear ever is hunting you. You need to build a little army from this menu.

Okay, and I'm going to build the whole thing. Build your whole thing. And keep track of the math somehow. It's okay. Leave the math. I really, yeah, leave the math to the bottom. I don't know why he did a 175. just to fuck all the math up. Yeah, right?

The only non-rounded number. All right, so I won't pick that. But I will go with a, uh, one silverback. Okay. So you've got 250 left. You spend big on the silver bag. Yeah, you went in. So I got 250 left.

And then I'll go with a, uh, a gray wolf. Okay. So now I'm at 850. And what do I got left? Pat's, Pat's math. One 50. I got 150. Uh, I'm going to go 481.20.

I'm going to go. I'm going to go with three honey badgers, and I'm going to give a $10 tip to my silverback. Smart. And then you'll have 20 left over. No, no, I'll give them all the tip. All $10 tip. So he's got a silverback,

yep, one gray wolf, and three honey badgers. That's right. Okay. I'm going to go next. Go for it. So it's a big, big brown bear. Really big bear. And it's actively hunting me.

Mm-hmm. So I, you, boy. Yeah. So this has to defend me from the bear. Correct. Not necessarily kill the bear. Correct. I just need to be able to get away.

More or less, yep. There's so many ways to crack this knot. I'm excited to see how Forrest does. Yeah, I've got a plan. I've got a plan. Okay. Okay. I have seen, personally, filmed in a show that I made,

a group of wolves come and get a bear off of a kill. That's smart. A yellowstone National Park. And then the wolves took over, took over. So I'm going to go five gray wolves. Yeah. I'm just just start with a sprinkle of gray wolves. I don't like it, but I like it.

I've got 500 left. So they're going to be heavily involved. Yeah. I've got $500 left. Then I'm going to add in 12 honey badgers and just have 20 left over to tip my matri-D when I get to dinner. That's good. That's good.

Five wolves and 20 honey badgers. I think they're going to get that bear off me. I do too. I do too. Are you writing this down? Oh, thank God. All right. And I'll tell you why I also think that, because I, too, was going to pick something quite similar.

But mine is slightly different. Again, wolves are a pack animal. They are used to dealing with bears. Now, they don't like to fight bears. But as a pack, one-on-one, wolf versus bear, we know the answer. Of course. There every time. Right.

So I'm going to do three gray wolves. Okay. So they can work together. We know they coordinate attacks. Three is enough. Three is enough to slow down that bear. It's not going to kill the bear, but it's enough to slow it down. they're going to attack for multiple angles,

bear's going to have a really hard time with it. I'm then going to add a jaguar, taking me to 600. This is for throat attack. Oh, because the jaguar has the strongest bite force of all the cats. All the big cats, and they are notoriously for throat attacks.

So if you can have the three gray wolves slowing down, the slowing down the bear, and then the jaguar can come in and attack for the throat, there's a good chance that it can kill that bear. Well, we're also going by the asses. assumption that they're all working together pretty well here. Of course, yeah. And then, interestingly enough, with the remaining 500, 400, 400, Matt's not his forte. Sorry, yes, you're right. Do you want to bump down to two wolves? Nope, nope, I'm staying where I'm at. With the

remaining 400, I'm just going to take the two hyenas. So hyenas are a ripping and tearing animal. Yep. And while the jaguar is attacking for the throat and the wolves are basically doing all of the manipulation of the bear, hyenas will just be ripping shreds out of it. It's literally no brain. It'll be It'll be shredding it. His army is going to destroy the bear. Mine, if my gorilla gets fucked up in any way, shape, or form, it's done. Yeah. You put a lot of eggs in that basket. It's bad. There is a right. I feel like there's a right answer here. And I pick the wrong. How many honey badger did you get? I have 12. Yeah, that's, there's not a lot of anything that can face 12 honey badgers. Twelve well-trained honey badgers. Plus, I got the five wolves. I feel really good. So wait, what did you have? You had a gorilla, a gorilla on the, the rest was honey badgers. And one wolf, too.

Oh, yeah, you had a wolf as well. The wolf thing, the one wolf is such a waste. That was a waste of a hundred bucks. What do you think about the gorilla versus 1600 pound bear? Just, no, no chance. The gorilla weighs, what, 400 pounds? I don't know. What's a big, no, 600 pounds?

What's a big silverback way? Yeah, but the intelligence of that gorilla and the way, so the wolf can distract, the wolf can distract. Listen, I'm not saying that it's a better army than your guys as animal. I'll just go ahead and say that. But I do think if they were working together, that wolf and those honey badgers could fucking get the attention of the bear. And that gorilla could come over and rip limbs off from behind or the side or so. Or pop it on the head. I will say right here, it says that they can, they're very strong, obviously, lift up to 1,700 pounds of dead weight.

Doesn't even lift it. It just needs to punch it. I mean, that's a hard punching. I still take the bear over a silverback. But not with all the other animals. These are all good armies. I actually think all three of them would win. Glad nobody picked Cheetah.

That's a terrible pick. Just to run away. There's nothing. I mean, I'll just take one cheetah and ride it away. Yeah. So I did this last podcast and I want to do it again. So not only, yes, like this, whoever wins this, it's not me clearly. But whose army would win against the other armies also?

Yeah. That's a good question. If you want to weigh in on that too. Of those thousand bucks, I don't think anything beats 40 honeybatchers. Was that what it was? I had 12. 12. Let me ask you this.

If someone just spent their whole thousand on 25 honey badgers, it might work? That would probably work too. I think so. Now, let me ask you this. Sorry. What if I just said, I'm just going to take two African lion? Against the bear? Against the bear?

Nah, bear it'd smoke them. Just going to fucking just boom. I don't think people understand or have enough respect for how big and powerful an adult. I do. I do. It's just not a lot of animals. Like, an elephant would take it down. But outside of that, there's not much.

It's going to take down a bear. Look up this video quick on YouTube. It's a grizzly caught under porch. And nothing happened. It was just stuck under somebody's trailer porch. Look at the ferocity of this thing. He just goes down here. This is under your porch, by the way.

Could you fucking imagine this? It's a lovely shot of a pineken. That's good. Here he comes. He's going to pull up, pull up. Just chill in there. It looks very peaceful. I don't think he's even stuck.

I think he'd get out if he won't. I know. Now he's starting to be a little defensive. Terrifying this is. Once he starts like charging. Dude, like he's chilling. He's filming this. Dude, he's right there. Like, are you kidding me? This bear is not injured or anything. No. I mean, it kind of

skipped the ferocious part. It might be right at the end. And then the bear takes off after he like gets a little. Hell of a place to have a bear though. Dude, a grizzly bear. Not like a brown or a black bear or anything. It's just like, oh, there he goes. Oh, what a big bear. That's a big old bear.

Can you fucking imagine. It's also like, dude, that bear will fuck it. That's like what Charlie looks at me like. But he curls his lip. Yeah. Do just type in huge Oh, look a shit. Do huge Alaskan brown bear. Now hold on.

Yeah, do that, but this grizzly bear just took a shit. Now, is that like a display of dominance or is that like I just need to take a shit? Really? I think so. But aren't, don't animals feel extra vulnerable when they take a shit? I feel like he did that on purpose. Yeah, maybe

he was just a little bit of a fuck you. Now that's a bear. So these are Alaskan brown bears. I think that was, I don't think that was a brisly. I think, dude, yeah,

so BTG always says that you could fit three grizzly bears like from the, from Yellowstone inside one Alaskan brown bear. I mean, they're just so much bigger.

Yeah. Like that thing is, there's nothing. There's no amount of honey badgers. I know, bro. That's crazy. That dude walking down the trail

has no idea. No, how is this? What's going on here? Oh, he just walked past. I was going to say, does he go down there? It's just crazy that bears exist.

Like, it makes sense that, like, you know, there's like eight different kinds of big cat and there's a bunch of big dogs and all these other predators. Bears are just their own, like, weird fucking wolf cat dog, big skull stand on two feet.

Honey badger. They got some honey badger in them. It's just crazy. Crazy animals. It's just crazy. It's just crazy. That's wild. Crazy animals.

But, dude, I will say every time I think about that, like you just brought it to my attention. Look at that. Oh, my God. When you, when you, when you, this is one of the things that draws me to animals and like the diversity of life in, in, in, in the world via animals is just like, when you think about what animals look like. And like how like the octable is like it's ridiculous. How did this happen? Like there's so much diversity and they look so different and they all do different things.

Yep. I mean, it's evolution, right? Yes, correct. But it is interesting. Like we see Avatar and these cool creatures that don't exist and it's fun and it inspires your imagination.

And think about a three or four year old going to the zoo for the first year. Yeah, totally. I'm really understanding it. I'm like, what? These are all living things? I still do that. It doesn't need to be a three or four year old?

The Barbarossa? That's real? I've probably been to the zoo maybe ten times in my entire life and every time I go still to the zoo. We went to the Santa Barbara Zoo. I'm looking at the fucking giraffe eating off a tree.

like kind of up close and I'm just like God damn it. That is fucking fascinating. It is weird. All right. Well, this has been a fun one. Peter soothe your voice, man. Save it. Don't talk for two weeks if you can. Can I suck your dick maybe? I knew there was no way he

wasn't going to do a dick. I heard that scene can be quite relaxing to the throat muscles. I mean, he's offering. Unbelievable. Would you? Filth. Please. Yuck. Peter, where can people find us? What do we do? Wild times. Dot club forward slash info and don't forget

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I can't listen to his voice anymore. I'm sorry for saying that. Do not edit that. I will kill you, Kyle. All right. Thanks everybody. God damn it, Peter. That's my line. I was ready. I had Yeah, and you took it. Cheers, May.

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