Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Rare Endangered Animal Caught on Camera - The Wild Times Ep. 132

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

Endangered Bison was caught on camera, Sir David Attenborough's long-beaked echidna was also caught on camera, and we play the animal features game. Enjoy! Brackish: https://brackish.com/ LEATHERMAN: Leatherman Arc - Shop Now: https://www.leatherman.com/arc-702.html PRIZE PICKS: Go to https://www.prizepicks.com/wild and use code wild for a first deposit match up to $100! Manscaped: Get 20% off + Free Shipping at https://www.manscaped.com/ Subscribe to The Wild Times Podcast on YouTube ▶▶ https://www.youtube.com/@WildTimesPod Get YouTube Membership Perks ▶▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVl7fHhUOpFK8Mpv-6DdoOg/join Get Up To 4 Bonus Podcasts Per Month ▶▶ https://www.patreon.com/wildtimespod Watch More Episodes Here ▶▶ https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP... Visit https://thewildtimespodcast.com/ now! Join The Wild Times Discord Server: https://discord.gg/ytzKBbC9Db Get your Wild Times Podcast merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch Leave a review on iTunes Apple Podcast: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/itune... Follow The Wild Times Podcast on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildtimespod/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wildtimespod Twitter: https://twitter.com/WildTimesPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wildtimespod/ Listen to The Wild Times Podcast on: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2cbFBzf... Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0... Anchor.fm: https://anchor.fm/wildtimespod/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WildTimesPod Jingles made by: www.soundcloud.com/mimmkey https://www.newbelgium.com/beer/fat-tire/ #wildtimespod #podcast

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Mr. Retep, what's up? Hi. got these fat tires boxes back here that's my Christmas tree they make my eyes look a beautiful shade they sure do they sure do son amazing you should leave them there for all pie or for all the sub cockles of my heart are warm today because Pat's got his Christmas tree forest looks like Santa Claus good a lot of gray in the beard so yeah it's getting there baby

cringle I'm waiting and I do want to dig into this with Pat because I'm waiting to get my Christmas tree until I think the day after Thanksgiving. I think Friday is acceptable day. Very self. My wife won't allow it before that day. That's where I'm at in my house. Because I literally said to just, by the way, Pat, per your suggestion last year, I've been burning Christmas candles 12 hours a day. Hell yeah, baby. I just picked up two new pine cent of candles yesterday. I'm sorry. I have to interject. That was my suggestion. Oh, was it? Oh, was it? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Whatever. Whoever said it, my house smells like delightful pine. Oh, but I don't have the tree. And I said to Jess, I'm like, why don't we go get a tree?

I said it two days ago. She's like, not until after Thanksgiving. So I think Friday is the tree day. Today. Yeah. Us two probably. So look, I have a fucking two week old, you know, there's, you need joy inside the home. So we popped up the tree.

Now, I will point this out. I've been looking to get the old school bulbs from the 80s that I remember as a kid. big, very, very dangerous. The rounded ones, the little like round or the little pin ones. They get to like 350 degrees. Yeah. Yeah. They get really hot.

Yeah. Light the tree on fire frequently. Kids burn their fingers on them. That's how we know we're getting old. That's why you're old, mate. Well, look, I found I got the hookup. They're illegal in California. Got them on my tree.

Big old glass bulbs. They get like molten lava hot. my two and a half year old touched one the other day and burned her finger. It's just, it's great. That is what Christmas is about. And also, that's what getting older is about.

It's about doing things that are not good for you or your family because that's the way that it was done. That's, that's a great thing to do. Subject your family to those same exact memories that you have that's been that you experienced. Absolutely. You don't want to improve.

You want everything to be homeostasis. You want to, you want to be stagnant in life with your family. You don't want to. Yeah. Don't involve. All right, good. Well, that's good.

It's Christmasy. Pat, I might be hitting you up for those old school bulb, uh, that hookup. I'll meet your guy in a dark alley late at night and do a drop. Texting your wife right now for us. Well, we're, we are getting together in person. So we all you just bend mo me. Oh. Oh, I will, you know a little premium on them because it's a black market.

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Yeah. You actually sign a lease and you have a room that. Exactly. It's set up. Yeah. And it's its own bathroom. It's going to be huge. And I just want people to know that, you know, all those ads you're watching.

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It's ludicrous. Sorry, go. I sound a little off. I have a horrendous sinus infection. You sound like Elmer Food, man. I do. I do. It sounded fuddy. So right before we jumped on to record here, I went to,

I can't remember if it was right at her CVS. and I'm looking, trying to figure out which one, which drug of choice I'm going to buy for this sinus pressure. And this big, tall, strapping Australian young man wearing the shirt of the place comes by. And he's like, can I help you find something, boss? That's a terrible Australian accent. Yeah, that's not good. And I said, no, I'm good. And then he kept walking down the aisle and I see him.

He's kind of looking at me. What's going on? So then I go to check out, standing in line, taps me on. the shoulder. He's like, I'll take you over here, mate. There, there. Now we got out of the accident. Yeah. And he's kind of setting up another register and he keeps looking at me. He's like, are you the guy? No, no, no, I'm not. Because I, I thought he maybe thought I was someone else. I didn't, you know, whatever. Yeah. He's looking at me. He goes, you, you are. You're on the wild

times. I was like, I was like, yeah. And he was just like, you know, because I was feeling shitty sinus pressure. I got to go record. And he's like, man, keep up the good work, mate. I love, I've seen everyone, listened to everyone. Love it. Love it. You guys kill it. And I was like, you end to wildlife?

He's like, no. I love that even more, dude. That's huge. Yeah. So it was cool. Branching out. That's awesome. Good.

That's the best medicine you could take. By the way, I mean, better than the student fed. Do you, did it not make your day? I mean, that would have made my freaking day. I would feel so crummy going in there. And then somebody's like, hey, I know you. Yeah, it was cool.

It was cool. You know, I'll tell you why. because it's only happened to me three times ever. I told you about the Chicago beer story. That's right. It happened once at the airport in Boston. So because it only happens once every six months, it's fantastic. Dude, it's happened no times for me except at AnimalCom, but that doesn't count.

Well, you also were wearing no pants. I don't, I mean, you mean, just in general. I usually don't have pants on. No, you, you went above and beyond. Let's be honest. What are you doing for us? Pay attention. I was going to, I was actually.

going to send Kyle some photos to pull up of my weekend. Yeah. Okay. So what was this? What was this weekend? Oh, no. No, don't pull those up. This is a public pod, dude. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Well, it's either going to be a picture of your groin or your vomit bucket.

It's neither one of those, actually. But, Kyle, you should have some photos. These guys fucking butchered that whole thing by pointing out that I was texting you. But you should have some photos to pull up from my weekend. I went pretty hard on Saturday night. Sure did.

What was the Akege? It was, so my buddy Josh, who I played rugby with, actually, I'll tell the whole story. It's pretty funny. So our rugby team, which I talk about plenty, a bunch of big strapping, burly men, plus me. Yeah. And like six years ago, this guy shows up. He's like six foot five. He's big.

He's big, like hefty but muscular, like big dude. His name's Jordan. Okay. And we're like, wow, this guy's a fucking beast. Spends three months in preseason training with us. And he, because he was so big, shut up, pal, did I send him the wrong person? They're coming, relax. Because he's, because he was such a big dude, we made him be a prop, which is like in the front bottom of the pile, a guy who like, you know, you go to lift someone in the line out and you basically stick your thumb up their butt.

And our buddy, Jack, who brought him into the game was always like snickering when Jordan was lifting him people and like in the middle. the scrum and we're like, yeah, whatever. And anyway, Jordan, this big dude, he, uh, he trains for three months. He's at every training. He never misses the training. First five seconds of, no, not five seconds. First five minutes of his first game ever on the field. He runs the ball in, splits his cheek open and gets 14 stitches in his face and walks off

and is like, I'm never playing this sport again. I don't like this. This is not for me. However, six years, this happened six years ago and we've all stayed friends with him. He, uh, he loosened up a little over the six years. the point of telling everybody that he is gay. And so he's like, we call him poo bear. He's like our token poo bear at the club.

And everybody, everybody loves poo bear. He had his five-year anniversary with his husband on Saturday. And me and my wife and Josh and his wife and a bunch of others were supposed to go. None of the wives wanted to go because it was just going to be a late night, you know, like cross-dressing fiasco. And so Josh and I decided to go together. Kyle, I don't know why these aren't sending to you. Josh and I decided to go together and get matching costumes for this.

Oh, I saw this on your story. I was wondering what the hell that was. Yeah, we had to send it though. Like, as the, as the, probably the two only straight guys at the party, we're like, there's no way we're standing out. Like, we got to really send it. The party was Lady Gaga and Beyonce themed. And you are either team, I love that.

Team Gaga or team Beyonce. Now, I'll be honest. The gays are so much more fun, dude. It's not even. close. I don't know much about Lady Gaga or Beyonce, but I was thusly informed that Beyonce is a silver and sequence type thing. That's like her, that's her MO. But I just showed up to my buddy Josh's house and jeans and a t-shirt and he's like, just Benmo me 70 bucks for the costume and we're good. And so I just showed up and Kyle is, Kyle is pulling up what this looked like.

Right. So you, which team did you go? You went Beyonce? I was team. So Jordan, who was our buddy, was the Beyonce side. And then, um, uh, yeah, his, his,

his husband, York was, was the, uh, was Lady Gaga. Dude, I gotta say the worst thing about this, go back one picture.

Oh, all sparkles on the face. You got diamonds on your chest. I'd just shave my chest for this. Like, I went full on. Forrest. Yeah.

At my wedding, you had this problem too. Probably one of the worst pictures you ever taken. What's with your humpdy, dumpy, like thighs? What is going on? question, dude. And that's, yeah, that's a really good question. I don't know. Is it my stance? Is it the

It's an ill-fitting pant? That's what it is. That's the only reasonable explanation. It must be. But anyways, rest of the costume. I love it, though. The sparkles and the beard. Oh, old photos shoot. Pants look great there. Yeah, we did a little. Yeah, those are doers. Those are nice pants, by the way. Nice. Um, but, uh, yeah, no, we, we went for it. There was no, uh, no, keep going, Kyle. What are you doing? How hard did you party? I came home at 3 a.m. This is how hard I parted. I'll show you exactly how hard I partied.

Yeah, that's Jordan. That's the big, that's the big dude. With a split cheek? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. I'll show you exactly how hard I partied. Stand by one second. Where is this?

Dead air. Great for great for radio. Well, just say something, you idiot. Hey, Pat. It's like an animal con. We were forced to walk off the stage. I'd be like, uh, what's up, Pat? Hold on. Hold on. I gotta find nothing.

How, so how hard did you go? I mean, because look, you put that costume on, it's conducive to wild and heavy night. And it was at the shit. By the way, Pat, in case you couldn't guess, this all took place at the shitty kitty. Um, I fucking knew it. Yeah. Um, for those that don't know, the shitty kitty, also known as the Wildcat in Santa Barbara is our one and only sort of gay bar club. It's like a whole vibe. Hold on. Dance club. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the best spot. Too loud to have a conversation. Forget about it.

Your ears are bleeding. Love those places. Kyle, pull up, pull up the screenshot of my phone conversation. I got home around 4.30 a.m. in an Uber with no, missing that silver jacket and missing most of my sequence.

And I woke up to this. Don't know who's phone number this is. There's a dog in my silver jacket. And I just wrote, ha, ha, somebody wrote, somehow ended up with your top. What a transformation you had. I have no idea who this is.

I wrote, A very blurry night. The dog is way better looking. Kyle, zoom in on the pup there. That's my jacket. Don't know whose house that is. Don't know whose dog that is. Don't know.

Don't know what happened. Let's break this down a little bit. Yeah. Kyle, scroll down, please. So the text. Somehow ended up with your top. What a transformation you had. Now, what kind of transformation are they talking about?

I'm unaware. I may have changed sexualities. I'm not sure. playing for the other team, eh? Yeah, it might be. I'm sure your wife loves to hear that. It sure sounds like you did. Yeah, I don't know.

This looks like a fun party. This is on the land shark. You know that, you know the boat that go, the car boat? Yeah, this was the land shark. We went out on the water. This was his wife very unimpressed driving us there. Yeah, there's a lot going on here. It looks like a whole lot of fun, man.

I got to say, I'm a bit jealous. I just haven't like, so Josh has, a four month old. No, sorry, a six month old. And I have about a four month old. So neither of us have gone out in a long time or given any effort to drinking. And we change that on Saturday night. That's for sure. Yeah. It's funny. Like thinking about bars and college and shortly after college where they just blast music that's so loud that essentially you can't really have a conversation. So you just kind of dance. Yeah. Yeah. It's impossible. As you get older, you're like, I'd like to maybe just go to a restaurant and talk

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I'm dreading my kid being 22 and having to talk to him. No offense, Brosner. Actually, I talked to Bronzer. who were 22 at the place, but those are like level-headed people who don't go to these clubs. Yeah, that's true. That's a good place. The people we met at AnimalCon that listen to the wild times are not the clubbing types. Nope, nope.

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Well, first of all, I've spoken about Gar before, G-A-U-R, Kyle-L-Literally the coolest. Yeah. Calling it a bison's like not even. No, it doesn't do this thing justice. It doesn't do it justice. Kyle, just pull up a picture of a gar, would you? Not talking about the fish here. No.

Not the band either. We're talking about a bovid on steroids. Yeah, just. Oh, I remember this guy. Guys, yeah. So I like this piece of news. It's not, you know, it's nothing record-breaking. but for the first time in 37 years at the Salawin Wildlife Sanctuary, one of these was caught on

trail camera, 37 years, probably come across from Myanmar through the border there, somehow made it, and first time in, yeah, first time in 37 years. Wow. And in Thailand. Now, I'm assuming this is, that's a big animal. I'm assuming they were hunted to the brink here. Exactly. It's a lot of meat.

You know, it's a big cow. It feels like it would be very tough like meat that wouldn't taste very good because it's so damn muscular. So jacked. Yeah. I bet it's like a porky pig. I bet it's delicious. I don't know. I bet it's delicious.

Think about though a big male gar, what do you think the max weight is listed at for a gar? Oh, man. 2000, I'll say. I was going to go a little bit higher. I think it was 2,600 pounds. Yeah. The max, the highest that's listed on the site I'm looking at, up to 3,300 pounds. for a little. Damn. Dude, that's the size of like a entire village. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's the size of a car. Exactly. Like a big, bigger car. Yeah. It's an insane creature. But good for the species. It's always like, you know, like the Australian earless dragon that came back. We talked about that a couple pods ago. It's like, all right, I get it. Nobody saw this lizard that was this big in this one region of Australia for 50 years. Like, I get it. Like somebody flipped over a log. The lizard was there. To have this 3,300 pound just, you know,

yoked out buffalo come walking back into a country is it's awesome that's good it's a good time that was my nickname in high school the yoked buffalo the yoked out buffalo um but i just think it's great you know it's like big megafauna coming back like when yeah i don't care how this comes across when you think of southeast as i think oh you know empty forest syndrome everything gets killed everything gets eaten to have something as big as a gar come like walking back into a country like thailand is awesome yeah i think it's important to point that kind of shit out, dude. I mean, I didn't even know that before I started doing this podcast. I thought it was bustling with life in these forests. I didn't know that they just, no,

Hunked everything too. Empty forest syndrome. It's terrible. It is terrible, man. Yeah. Good. Good to see it. But anyway, nice to see recovery like that. And, you know, to take like a grandiose look at it for a second. It's like, it's a small sign. That car may very well be hunted and eaten, but it's like a better global sign, you know, it's like people are caring a little bit more, like big animals are coming back to areas that big animals haven't been in in a long while. And making the news too. Making the news. Like I feel like it's the right.

It's like I always, I've always said before, it's like, you know, 20 years ago when you thought about a shark, you're like, oh, if I get in the water with a shark, it's going to rip me to shreds. Today, I can't go on Instagram without seeing a gorgeous blonde and a string bikini swimming next to a great white shark, right? It's like totally changed the whole ethos of like how people think about sharks. And it's just like that whole thing, like with all animals. everything is sort of evolving and adapting and hopefully it's not too little too late.

But the general the general like mindset is definitely changing. And I think this is a good indication of that. It's, it's nice to to once in a while be able to point out some of the good things that come from our social media and interconnectedness in the world because most of it is just terrible. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah. But yeah, I like that story. I mean, there's a big, big wildlife discovery if we want to talk about that. What happened? What about? Talk about the biggest. the biggest. This is the biggest, at least for me.

So season three, Extincter Alive, Pat and I wrote the Scarcantuan deck of all the animals we thought we would find. And one of them was Sir David Attenborough's Long Beaked Echidna, which is an echidna is a small hedgehog-looking creature. It's not, it's not, however, a hedgehog. It's a marsupial.

And it, you know, the Longbeaked Echidna came from, or comes from Indonesia, hasn't been seen in, in 60 years, Papua, not, well, Papua ended, but hasn't been seen in 60 years. Oh, wow. And looks like a kind of like a hedgehog slash porcupine. Yes, but just last week, I posted this on my Instagram on the very last day of a massive expedition, a four-week expedition into the, what's the hell, the name of those mountains? Cal, maybe you can find it. Himalayan's. No, no, no, it's this crazy set of mountains. I put on my Instagram. It's

called the, not the lost mountains. It's got, it's got like a very threatening name, too. Is that in the mountains around that area that nobody's ever been into, basically? No, no, no. It's, uh, I was just trying to find it. It doesn't matter. I'll find it. But it's in this area in, in Papua.

It's, uh, Powell find it. Yeah, just these crazy mountains. It's called like the death mountains or something just to give you an idea. And, uh, yeah, literally it was, the, the researcher said it was the last card, Papua's Cyclops Mount. Cyclops Malgeons. Yeah, I told you've had a crazy name. Slick for out of a movie.

Yeah, you're going to get zapped with an eye laser. But yeah, three years of planning for four weeks a month in the in the field setting out trail cameras. And the researcher said it was like, I think he said it was the last card on the last camera, right? Which is like, if you world, it's how Patrick and I always make it look, even though sometimes it happened on like, you know, the second card we checked. But, yeah, this was literally on the last card of the last trail camera.

And there's this, this funny dude, just chilling. Just cruising through. Awesome. It's awesome to see the actual video, man. Right? How cool is that? First time in 60 years. Wow. Wow. And it was an animal we had on our list, on our short list for season three. But very cool. I thought it was amazing to have that discovery, to see it. That animal was named after Sir David Attenborough from a single existing museum specimen at a Dutch natural history museum. The guy was an Attenborough fan and named it Attenborough's Long Beach, Tickina.

And then nobody had ever seen one. It was just sitting in a museum. museum in Dutch museum and then they went out and found this one. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Pat, any new stories that you found particularly interesting? No, I'm going to paint a picture for you guys. I want to introduce a new segment here. Nice.

This segment is called Papa Peas' Butterfly Effect. Oh, I love it! I love the butterfly effect. What's your understanding of what the butterfly effect is? So that that means, basically, basically very small things that happen in your existence can have a very large effect. So for example, the reason it's called a butterfly effect is a butterfly flapping its wings

in Detroit can cause the apocalypse for elephants. Unintended consequences. Yeah, a ripple effect. Yeah, man imprints his sticky fingerprints on nature and their unintended consequences. I'm going to take you back. Kyle, maybe can add some spooky mystery music here. I'm going to take you back to 1932. Okay.

The British have colonized Tanzania. Okay. Okay. They've brought livestock with them. Along with the livestock comes a virus called Rinderpest. Rinderpest. Okay. So this is something that basically affects livestock.

building the livestock here in Tanzania where they've given away free farmland to British colonists. Okay. And in a place, the Nwambay district in Tanzania, you have villagers who have lived there for thousands of years. Now, on the outside,

their village is getting bigger because the British colonists are building farms. Okay. Rinder pest is run rampant. Rinder pest. What do you think the British colonists do? to try and combat this render pest? What would be a sensible move?

What year is this? 1832. And it's a, what is it? It's a disease. Yeah, it's a livestock disease. It's killing their cows. So not, not like, it's not through ticks or fleas. No.

Okay. What do they do to combat this? They, uh, geez, I don't know. They kill all their cows and start over. No, that's definitely what I was going to guess. No, instead, what they did was they, they, loaded up their Rolls-Royce safari vehicles that they used to use back then. A lightful.

With a bunch of people, big rifles. They went around and they killed every single thing with hooves that they could find. So the zebras, the antelope, the willed the beast, they kill all the wild animal. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I hate it. What do you think might happen as a result? Well, all the predators, of course, now have nothing to eat and are targeting.

The livestock. Not just the livestock. The humans, please. People start disappearing. Yes. There are brazen attacks in the middle of the day. I love, I like this, I'm happy. Dozens of people.

Actions have consequences. From this village that's close to this area where they've killed all the food are getting killed. I'm sorry, but actions have consequences. Now, no, now what animal do you think might be doing this? lion and leopard I'm going to go another human interesting

so it's chaos right people are actively being hunted the big meeting is called and the witch doctors are asked to determine whether these are real lions

that are coming into town daily in the middle of the day they're not even doing it at night okay and are actively hunting and eating people. And they want to know are these real lions or spirit lions. Okay. So the witch doctors determine that these are spirit lions.

Okay. Fair. And they're clearly being brought in by outsiders. A human outsiders. Yeah. So now people are rounded up and hung and killed in the village to get rid of these spirit lions. Uh-huh. Didn't stop the attack.

So this is not the ghost in the darkness. This is a whole different thing. Not the ghost in the darkness story. No. Okay. So this is a crazy story. It is a crazy story. No, it's amazing.

So for 15 years from 1932 to 1947, a single pride of lions actively hunted people killing over 1,500 people. Oh, my God. 1500. And there were multiple generations of lions that learned that this is the way to hunt. until eventually a game warden who was like a trophy hunter, a guy named George Gilman Rushdie, put together a team and went out and killed the entire pride of lions.

Wow. After 1,500 people died by lion attack from this one pride of lions. Wow. Absolutely crazy, dude. They learned to hunt humans. And I mean, you know. And then pass that on because it's generational, you know, passed on, oh, this is an easy prey item here's how to be sneaky everything else it's amazing i love stories like that i don't know

why they don't have more notoriety yeah i mean it's also like what did you talk about the butterfly effect what did you think was going to happen dumb dumbs yeah right like you go and you kill all the prey yep exactly in africa um it's like it's it's so dumb um hey this is this is a this is a virus that we brought with us that affects things with hooves, but just to be safe, we're going to kill all of the stuff that was already here that doesn't have this virus. Exactly. Yeah. Listen, I mean,

these are the things that happen when you fuck around and find out. What can you say? Like, it's not even, it's not the lion's fault. I actually, although it's sad that the pride of lions had to be killed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It was like reading a book. Forever. Very, very fun, though. More fun than going to school. I'll say that. Here's the other thing. I thought some people were going to make shit up. Every submission, I think, was a real story.

I didn't see any that I felt were like embellished or made up. Well, nothing was like super outlandish. They were all like pretty genuine. It was like, oh, nice. Thanks to everyone who submitted, but we have narrowed it down to our three finalists, which we will read. Yep. And then we are going to let the listeners and viewers vote.

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All right. I didn't go ahead. Come on camera like that. That was, that was very uncomfortable for everyone. Just kidding. All right. Top three finalist outdoor moments from our listeners and viewers.

What do you got for us? All right. First story submitted by Darby at DRBY. Here's the moment. On a boy stout, I'm going to set the scene here. Start again. But I'm going to set it up. I got to read it slowly.

I gotta tell it like a story. Smooth tongue that shit. Yeah, smooth it. On a Boy Scout camp out, the kid was pretending to be a bear by scaring campers from outside their tent. One night, later in the week, he hears grunting outside of his own tent.

Thinking it was other kids getting revenge, he throws a wild punch and clocks an actual bear. And then those, the bear knocked his tent down, but the kid was unscathed. I think he learned a lesson. short. That is sweet.

How funny is imagine imagine thinking your friends are teasing you and you punch a black bear through the canvas of your tent. I think that's amazing. It just made me laugh and that was why it got one of my votes to be the finalist. Yep. Same. The idea of like number one,

I'm a jerk because I'm going around scaring everyone with pretending to be a bear. But the second someone does it to me, I throw a wild haymaker into the darkness. Right. And punch a bear in the mouth. And punch a bear in the mouth. All right. So if you like that story, and there are two more coming, comment Boy Scout.

You're going to comment Boy Scout in the comments to vote for that person, Darby to be the winner. What else we got? This is from at Brendan Bueller 1415. Bueller. When I graduated high school. I took a trip to the Mayan jungle by myself at age 19. I went on a tour where we rappeled down into the world's longest underground river. Then we snorpled for a few hours through the cave with headlamps.

It was a surreal experience and loved that I took a leap out of my comfort zone and went by myself. Love it. That's how it starts, right? And that's what I love about this story. It's not like, oh my God, this crazy thing happened. It's just like I did something on my own for myself, put myself out of my comfort zone. I love it. Take some balls.

You're traveling to Central America when you're 19, fresh out of high school. You got some, some, some, some, some, uh, history in there. You're seeing Mayan relics. You're floating the river. You're doing some snorkeling in the sonote. It's just something I want to do. Yeah. Yep.

This is why it got one of my votes. Love it. A great experience. How would you vote for this if you were a listener? I would, I would write the word cave. Hmm. Nice. So we got Boy Scout and Cave.

Yep. We got one more story here by Johnny Oscar 3521. I'll never forget one. fall while moose hunting out on a tree stand at dawn when out of a sudden when all of a sudden a pack of wolves start howling far out in the distance where i then say to my friend hunting with me want me to call it in as a joke i start howling mimicking the wolves i'm hearing when the whole pack stops howling except for one as it gets closer and closer i decide to get out of the tree stand to see it on the ground up close and personal.

No more than 15 minutes of howling back and forth later, the large male wolf appeared over a hill, staring down at the two of us no more than 20 yards away, where I then turned to my friend and I said, told you, told you. Yeah, I mean, this is just this one ridiculous, because I remember episode one or two of this podcast, Forrest did the most realistic wolfhauer.

I've ever heard. And when I was editing that one, my dog started howling the most wolf-like howl I've ever heard, like straight through connected howling. And I was just like, wow, dude, the howling actually works. I love it. It's one of my favorite moments from any shoot we were ever on

was Southern Rocky Mountain Wolf. We were playing wolf calls over big speakers, whatever. And then you're just sitting at the campfire, cooking up some rabbit. Yep. And, uh, you just started doing the manual wolf howl and I think it was probably mostly coyotes but like getting a response.

Cacophony of response. Crazy. You know, these snowy ass mountains. It was awesome. Yeah, very cool bonding with nature. Do you want to vote?

Seeing a wolf in the wild. Oh my God. And just pushing it too being like, yeah, fucking I'm going to get them to come in. I love. Of course, would you be afraid if you, if you did this and you encountered three wolves? Uh,

if they were howling at the moon, like on Dwight's cool t-shirt from the office? No. But no, it just depends. I mean, not really. Wolves don't, you know, really kill people. So no, I wouldn't really be afraid. If I was surrounded by a bunch of wolves by myself,

yeah, I wouldn't be stoked. But no, I mean, getting to see a wolf in the distance would be amazing. Well, if you get a pretty good sense of if the wolf thinks your food or not. Yeah, exactly. And they just, they don't. Or if you're just like singing a duet. It's either a duet singing or you're free. Wanted to.

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stories. Outdoor moments, baby. I heard you got a game, Forrest. I got a game. You want to play a game? Yeah. I'm sniffing a game. Put it together. All right. Here's the thing. I don't know the answers because last, I think this is the best way to do it. So, Kyle, go to the animal picks game or whatever it's called, animal features game. And the game works like this. We played it once before. If you're only listening on Spotify, you're an idiot, stare at your phone while driving and watch. No, you are. You are. You need to, while going very fast down the freeway, watch your cell phone and see how this works.

No. So Kyle's going to pull up a picture. We're all going to analyze what it. It is three pictures to get to the answer of what the animal is from some sort of macro shot of the creature. This game is very fun and very hard. Yes, not as hard as the animal skull game, though. True. All right. There we go.

Pick of the first animal. Kangaroo. Boom. Got it. That is a hairy chest of one of the guys I partied with. I was that a game. What do you actually think? it is. A primate. I don't know what kind, but a primate for sure. Kangaroo is not a primate, mate.

Negative. I feel like it's one of those monkeys that like hangs out in those natural hot tubs. Ooh, yeah. Does he have a little white goatee there? Is that what I'm seeing? Yeah, for sure. That's definitely what that is. Okay, so we're, we've got one for kangaroo, two for monkey, but not sure what kind yet. Kyle, let's get another pick. Wishing you could be there live for the big game, soaking up the atmosphere in a crowd. But too often, life gets big. busy or the price hold you back. Priceline is here to help you make it happy.

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Picture number two. Coming our way. Oh, the eyes. Definitely a primate. a crypted. I mean, that is a demon some sort. Are you kidding me? I might know what, no. Yeah, it's definitely a primate.

That's all I know so far. Have you had to take a guess between those two images? What would you, what primate would you pick? Yellowish fur. Very creepy eyes. I mean, it's a monkey and not an ape, but I

is it? Yeah, the monkey. I don't know. The wrinkles on it's, oh, sorry, go ahead. Pat? No. Eh. You got a guess? No, I thought I did, but I don't. Peter, you got a guess?

Well, I was just going to say the wrinkles on its, like, bridge of its nose right there are really, like, creeping me out. I like it. It's like a meal. Let's see. Let's see if picture number three is going to do it for us. I wonder how many brosters already have figured this out. Like, all of them. Oh, it's dick.

It's thick. I know what it is. I know what it is. I know what it is. I know what it is. Proviscus, scos, guz. Yep. Proviscus monkey.

All right. What a nose on that. What a hon. Game changer. Yeah, that all adds up. Hey, Edwin, thanks for doing it better this time. With the giveaway answer at the end. Yeah, nice. Nice, nice. All right. Nobody got it early, which is good.

Which is great. We're all dumb, gums. We're all at zero points. All right. What have we got next for the animal assets game? What do we call it? Animal appendages. All right, so it's an eye. Beautiful eye. Sexy. Looks dearest. Deerish.

Doesn't it look dearest? Look at those eyelashes. Yeah. Beautiful eyelagulled. A little twang of blue in there. Oh my goodness. Some sort of like a gazelle. Yeah, there's quite a lot of things it could be.

I'm cheating. I'm looking at my poster on my wall of African animals. See, this one's tough because, like, you know it's in that deer family, but it could be one of a thousand animals. People pay thousands of dollars for eyelashes like this. I'm going to take a first guess. What do you got? Niala. I'm going to guess it's a Niala.

Kyle, can you confirm or deny? Nope. No. Incorrect for us. Next picture. Next picture. What do we got? Okay.

Oh, okay. I know what it is. Yeah, you know, because of the, those are the horns. Those are the horns. Yeah. Short little horns. Before I give it away, very close relative of the giraffe for anybody watching. Okay.

Next picture. Since Peter and I don't know. No. A little stripy bum. Well, I mean, that's a giveaway. What's on, is it a zebra? It's an, Ocopy. There we go.

There we go. Very cool. These are fun to look at at the zoo. They are. They're unbelievable. An Ocopy has a zebra butt. It does. Yep.

It's got a delightful zebra butt. What is, I forget, is that something to do with keeping flies off them? I think it's camouflage in the jungle because they hang out in like, deep, dense jungle. They're basically a jungle giraffe from the Congo. I don't know. Look it up. I could be wrong. You know, I read a crazy fact about zebras that I'm probably going to butcher. But it basically, it said that zebras are actually all black with white stripes, which I found fascinating. For some reason, it blew my mind instead of all white with black

stripes. I think they touch on that in the movie Madagascar, but I could be wrong. Yeah, you're right. It's camouflage. that somehow camouflages them when they're in the dense rainforest of the way that light filters down to the ground level. Like shadows and sunbeams. But I know what you're talking about. They did a study on zebra where they basically painted them black or they painted them white.

And then the ones that had black and white striping, for whatever reason, had a zillion less flies on them. So there is some kind of study about like the black and white and how it confuses flies versus just being a solid color. I can definitely say like if I'm fucking out and I have a bright ass normal white shirt on, I get harassed by mosquitoes. Whereas I mean, black shirt on it's less, but the white shirt is like insane, dude.

Yep. Yep. All right. Next one. What do we got, Kyle? Colors, man. All right. This is a gray alien.

This is a gray alien. I mean, very odd shaped pupil. Yeah. Pretty off. He's got some scales around the eyeball there. See the skin. It's got to be a reptile. Got to be a reptile.

I don't know what it is. The area that's normally the whites of the eyes around the pupil on this animal is, it's like, it looks like it's lizard scales even in that area. That's crazy. I'm going, iguana of some kind. I don't know. Let's move on. I'm going California wall lizard.

Fence lizard. Yeah. So we've got some yellowy scales with brown spots, like leopard spots on this. Oh, I know what it is because of what Patrick just said. I know what it. Pat, any guess? The melanoma lizard. That's what it looks like.

Yeah, those look like melanoma moles. I got nothing. I'm going to say what it is and see if you guys know what it is just from the word. Okay. It's a leopard epaulet. Is it a fish? All right. Well, Kyle confirmed I am right. Right. Let me see the next picture.

Oh. It's a fish. It is a fish. It's a shark. Wow, dude. The eyes still. Yeah. The eyes threw me for sure. I definitely thought it was a reptile. I didn't realize that was an underwater pick. Yeah, there we go. What a beautiful creature there. Yeah. And the shark's not bad either.

For those that are less smirk for us. A forest holding one of these. I don't know who was directing you there. Were they just like, all right, Forrest, hold the epaulette, turn to camera, and then do a jerk smirk smirk. Yeah, I don't know. It's very off-putting. I'm not sure why I look like. There's a reason I've never posted that photograph.

It's a good picture. It looks like someone edited out a corn cob pipe that was in your mouth. I know. I don't know why I looked so. I look very constipated. It looks like you had an old-timey accent in that. Corned a monocle. Kyle, was that the last one?

Was there another one? I don't recall. Oh, he's got two more. All right. Let's do it. Let's do this. Excellent. I like this game a lot.

I will never get one of these. No. Well, I guess I got a copy. You did. You did. Yeah. Two more. All right.

All right. All right. Crazy. Wow. Definitely a reptile. No question. Crazy eye. All sorts of colors around the eye.

Next picture. Hold on. I want to look at this eye for a second. It looks like a, a good radio. You looking at an eye. I'm going to talk about the eye for those that are just listening. So the eyeball.

here looks like a psychics crystal ball somehow. Do you go to psychic offices often? He must. I do televisits with them. Tell you. All right. Next picture

since I got scurred. Okay. I'm sticking with reptile. It's definitely a reptile. It's got me a snake. That's a snake. That's a snake. Is that a snake? It looks like it. Looks like it. It looks like a sidewinder. Like the patterning

is pretty similar to a sidewinder. But the Gotta be a snake. All right. I'm gonna say lizard just because you're both saying snake, but I don't know what. All right. Let's see the give it away answer. Okay. Well, a gecko.

Definitely a snake. That's a snake foot. Yeah. That is a cool-ass foot. I do know what it is. Let me guess first. It's called the, it's called the yellow leopard gecko. I got a guess too.

Oh, wait. Did you get it right? No. No, that's not a thing. I'm going to call it the yellow leopard skink. Okay. What if I, if I make the noise that it makes, then I want you to try and guess its name.

Yeah, immediately we'll get it. To okay. It's a toque lizard. A talkie, toky, toky. Toque. It's a toque, a toque lizard. Yep, you got it. That's right.

It is. Now, why is it called toke? Because they say, they make that sound. I'm kidding. Yeah. Yep. Tokey gecko. Beautiful, beautiful creature, dude.

The eyeballs. Fierce. Fierce. Fierce. Nasty. Mean. Really? So mean.

I love that about that. They get big, by the way. They're like this big. It's like, I think it's like a foot long gecko. Like a foot long gecko. Like a foot long gecko. And yeah, you're hanging out in Indonesia and you're like fast asleep. And then you'll just hear.

Dukke. And like full volume. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah. So they're known. They just come right up to your ear when you're sleeping and say it right. right inside the hole. Do it on your walls, but it's incredibly

loud and very, and they're just meanish shit, too. What's worse? The toke, the toke, the tokeye gecko or the, uh, the pheasant that you have at your house? Oh, the guinea fowl. Um, no, the guinea fowler, like, one of the worst creations on the sun's greener. They're awful. At least the toke says some word. Yeah, and like,

yeah, dude, they're awful. They're heinous. Um, all right, Kyle, we got one more, yes? Edwin's definitely going to take that sound. You just made Peter and do something with it at some point. I love Edwin. So we've got some eyes that could be, these could be on a wolf. These could be on a, I don't know what this is. I'm saying, hiena.

Discharge on me. Oh, I think you got it for us. I'm going to go Tasmanian devil. Kyle hyena. No. Okay. Not there. All right.

Next picture, please. I thought you got it right with that. Oh. Now it definitely. looks like a hyena. Yeah. Kyle, you're positive.

It's not a hyena. That tongue, I remember it from the Lion King. I've never seen the tongue of a wolverine, but between the eyes and the mouth shape, I'm kind of, I know what this is. You do?

I think it's a honey badger. Okay. Look at the tongue. Look at all the white speckles on there. Nope. Nope. By the way, that nose is so shiny.

How good does it feel to see a nice shiny nose in the holiday season on an animal? It really does. Interesting. Just the good wet nose. Ah, I love it. The animal's healthy. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Well, I know what it is now. I still think it's an African wild dog? No, good guess. It's a very bizarre creature. One of my favorite animals. Really? Very, very bizarre creature. What is it?

It is an African animal. I don't know if you guys are going to get it. It's an ard wolf. Ever heard of an ard wolf? No. Only in Game of Thrones. That. Dude,

it looks like a hyena. It really does. It's basically a wild dog and a hyena mated. Pretty much. created this. Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. I don't, I don't, that, without the body, I don't know how anybody.

Are they related to hyenas? It isn't the same family as a hyena, but there's something about them, you know, they're like, they're standalone. I forget what it is, but they're their own sort of genetic lineage. But same family, same hyena day, I think it is. Yeah. Yeah, they're very, very cool animal. Very cryptic, very hard to see.

They don't have sort of that, like, aggressive nature of hyenas. You know, you even see in the jaw. It's not like that thick square jaw. much more sort of foxy face. Yeah, very, very different animal. Very interesting. Love it. I didn't know that existed.

I got my kid an overpriced hyena stuffed animal. Nice. Because it's from like National Geographic or something. Yeah. Where normal stuffed animals is, you know, $4. Yeah. Yeah. Has never shown interest in it.

It's just in a bin in the closet. Dude, there's a website. I'm trying to find. I think it's called Gage Bees. stuffies. Let me look it up. Kyle, maybe you can pull this up. Gage Beasley. Is that where you got your blobfish, Peter? Yes. Yeah. Check it out. Gage Beasley. Kyle, check. Gage Beasley shop. Look at this. I love this place. I bought probably 20 way overpriced stuffies from this place in my life because they just make all the weirdest animal. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's cool. Not a sponsor. No, not a sponsor. I have no

affiliation whatsoever. But look at it. You want a poison dart frog? Right. Star Nose Mall stuffy. This is where you go. Starno's Moll. Cush. Yeah. Good Christmas gifts, by the way. Goblin shark.

Yeah. For sure. And obviously. So I just got my son now. Oh, the anglerfish is sick. Scroll up. See the giant ice pod? Nope, not that one.

You dumb dumb. No, I called that anglerfish. Oh, yeah, that one. I just got that from my son. He loves it. He sleeps. It's grotesque. It's like, look at it.

Yeah. Is that $130. Oh, 50 bucks. No, 50 bucks. 50 bucks. How much is the angler fish? I'm definitely, definitely getting that immediately for myself. 40 bucks?

Oh, 30. At the low, low price of 35. I love how the teeth are sharp on it, too. It's beautiful rendition. It looks exactly like an angler fish, which is horrific. I wonder, can you, I'm going to see if I can get a taxidermied angler fish. Yeah, I still love this idea. eBay, baby.

Love this idea. All right. I've got a prop. that I'm going to use to introduce our guest who's been waiting for the last 45 minutes. I like that. Let's see what it is. So I'm sitting here in my office, one of my, on my fine mahogany desk

that I'm using this week. Many leather bound books. And I use, I use this. Ooh. The brackish box. What do you mean you use it? For what?

I use this. The box that my boat. I came in as my coaster on my desk. Oh, look at that. That's nice. Yeah. Very elegant. Do you give it a little sniff, little pine sniff every once in a while?

I sniff it. Beautiful box. I alternate between the box and then a racket ball that I cut in half. Such a good smell, that chemically racquetball smell. Yeah. But it reminds me that we have a guest who's been waiting this entire time for us. The founder of Brackish, longtime sponsor of the Wild Times. Bring them on.

Ben's here. What's up, fellas? This is an honor to be with you all today. Thank you so much for having me. What's up, Ben? Welcome. Can't see it. I hope y'all can.

It looks great. Lovely room there. Yeah, what is this room that you're in? This is my office. This is where this is Brackish headquarters, Columbia. You know, everything is here in South Carolina. And I'm the co-founder of Brackish. You know, I'm the, I'm the freshwater of Brackish, Jeff Bottner, the other co-founder.

piece of salt water. And when we came together, made a company, fresh and salt water, mixed it together for brackish water. So that's how the company name got started. I'm sitting up here in Columbia. This is where my studio, kind of where I design everything, where I come to get away from everything and just kind of just let my imagination flow and start to play with feathers. It's kind of been an unbelievable dream to come to fruition here that I had to pinch myself every day that I get to wake up and play with feathers. So it's something that's not running your mill. Also, by the way, when you leave California and you move to the Carolinas, you immediately are gifted a man cave that looks like that.

It's something that you get when you move out of the state of California. Yeah. It's funny, man. The more people that like, you know, because my mom lives in South Carolina and I have some friends that moved to like Asheville, North Carolina. Everyone's got a cool room like this. Yeah. Just we, none of us have a room like this. No, it costs an extra $800,000 for our to buy a house with a room.

My child sleeps on a floor because we kind of. I get another room. Yeah. There's no man games in Southern California. No one could afford such things. Well, I tell you, this one all happened by chance. I didn't build this house. This house was built back in the 50s.

My wife, I bought this house right before I married my wife 16 years ago last Friday. We got married, and that's where I gave the first bothile away. But this room's come through a lot. This used to be a just catch-all storage room. And then as we had children and had the boys, I needed a space to get creative still in and working from home has its challenges and it's not a bad place to come to retreat.

And our lot's a little bit different than most of Columbia. Most Columbia is very flat in topography, but we have a beautiful rolling kind of up here on Noel. And so when the home builder, I guess back in the 50-60s, I guess he is supposed to grading out the lot. He just decided to pop a base site, which is pretty rare in this area. So it's pretty unique for sure. It definitely has my wife's loving touch.

on it. But then, of course, as you can see, I've got my fingerprints all over it as well. You and you and Forrest both have a man cave that your wife's built for you. Correct. Can you guys link my wife up with your wives? Here's the thing, though, Peter. I'm guessing Ben's wife made his out of love. My wife made mine out of spite because she no longer wanted me anywhere near the house. So, you know, you got to pick your poison here. True, true. All right. So a lot of our listeners, Ben, are, you know, 18 to 35, passionate about the outdoors, adventure, wildlife. And they're like, how do I make this?

How can I do this for work? How can I take the thing I love and do it and make money? How did it work for you going from someone who's an outdoor enthusiast to like, I'm going to make this my job? Yeah, you know, that's a great question. And I have to tell you, with a complete honesty, it all happened by chance. I, 16 years ago, last weekend, I gave the gift of feather bowtie to my groomsman, something that showed how much of an impact they had on my life, something to show them how much

I love them. And just, again, just incorporate a touch of the outdoors. I've grown up hunting and fishing, you know, fly fishing, tiny, fly arrows, making bletches for arrows here. So it came very naturally to me. I've always gravitated towards the outdoors, always felt most at home in the outdoors. It felt most comfortable outside. But, you know, when I wanted to come and I wanted to give this gift, my wife said,

I'm not so sure I'm going to have feathers on a bow tie in my wedding. It had never been done. It truly never been done. And so she said, you can wear them, but you have to get you're going to wear it at a, at a kind of an engagement party. And so I wore, I made a prototype that wore it to the engagement party. And after about the 15th person asking where I bought it from because they wanted one for their son or their father or you just loved it, I kept looking at my wife and saying, you hear this.

give us. And so about halfway through the night, she said, okay, you can do your feather bow ties for your gruesome's gifts. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, and so I all just, you know, life's little twist and turns, you never quite know, just those little minute decisions along life's path, you know, where it could take you. Because if she said no, I'd have never put up a fight, and the whole thing never happens. And so, yeah, fun, bud, bud, bud, Ben, I'm going to push back on that. Here's the thing. Yes, that's true. But you're the one who sees the opportunity. And I always think that life is about exploiting opportunities, right? You saw that this is something that people like,

and then you turn it into a full-fledged business. That's very different. Yeah, I made six and was like, yeah, people like them. Now I make them for my buddies. That's a whole different thing. That's how our podcast started. That's where the genius comes in behind this. I have not the brains of this organization.

Jeff is for sure. I come up with some creative. I'm creative, very creative. And that's what Jeff encourages me to do. He always is supporting me to get out there and just come up with the most outlandish ideas for our product lines. and just how to incorporate feathers. But he is the one that, because I was making a few hundred, you know, every year,

you know, for fathers, for birthdays, for a few weddings around Columbia. But every time Jeff Woldham, after the wedding, he was one of the recipients of the original bow tie. He kept getting asked, like, where are you getting at? Where did you make that? Like, I want one of those. And so he came to me one day, and he, I could see the drive determination and just, and he had a vision in his eyes that he was in law school at the time.

He said, listen, I think if you make them, I can sell them, and we can really for a company. And so he was the one who said, you can get this a lot bigger than out of your garage or out of your basement, rather. And so from that, we just said, okay, so I was working a full-time job. I was building hospitals, ambulatory surgery centers and metabolops buildings all across the southeast for a health care read out of Charlotte. And I would work nights and weekends. I'd come home and make bowtize and jump would hit the road and sell them. And so it was really very organic how this thing grew.

And it just kind of just kept mounting and building and building and building. and sure enough, you know, with the two of us paired together, it's reached a level that I just have to pitch myself every day. I can't believe that this is what we have and what we've created because there was no blueprint. There was no blueprint. And it was literally just a passion for the outdoors, a passion for repurposing the beauty of Mother Nature's Paint Rush.

I think that that's something that, you know, in this fast-paced life that we have with, you know, the phones and the technology and everything like that, people just don't slow down enough to really pay it. attention to the little details. And I find that the beauty around us is in the little details. And they surround us every day, whether it's down at your local part, taking a walk down the street, or just out in your front yard or backyard. I mean, it is absolutely breathtaking when you stop and just take a moment just to be present and just notice what's going on around you. And that's

where this all started. I love just sitting and being quiet and just watching, you know, the woods come alive in the morning. I think there's no place else I'd rather be than watching a sunrise over the Sancti Delta or something like that. Down to Edisto Beach, I love watching the sun come up over the beach there, over the ocean. And then, you know, watching the sunset over the, you blue ridge mountains up there in North Carolina, South Carolina, Colorado. I'm a bit jealous of your life a little bit. It's pretty amazing.

I have to pinch myself every day that it's not a dream. When you were just describing all those environments, I was just smelling them. Because I love being out in nature, like in the woods. You just take a big whiff. And it's just like, well, except around here. smells like sewage. But if you're like out in actual in a, in a forest that's like not a manmade piece of shit, you're like, oh, dude.

And it just hits you and it like invigorates you, man. It does. I think it's the stuff. It's fuel for life. It's fuel for life. It's fuel for me. It's fuel about fire. You know, I get outdoors every chance I get.

I think that I think that you can learn a lot of great life lessons. I bring both my boys up outdoors. You know, stewardship, responsibility, ethics, all those things come into play when you're outdoors. and you always want to leave it better than you found it, whether you're on a creek, a river, a pond, an ocean, any waterway, any body of water, any body land, I always try to leave it better than I found it.

We, you know, we plant trees. We do a lot of things to prove what we have, and we're just stewards of it, you know. Yeah. It's not ours. We're all going to pass at some point. So we're really prepping this for my kids and their kids and my grandkids. And so it's just going to just kind of just keep going.

And I think that you always try to, you know, strive for leaving it better than you found it and imparting a little bit of stewardship on the, what we've been charged with of taking care of, you know, Mother Nature here because she takes good care of us. And it's just, it's an honor to go out there and spread that kind of word. And to be involved at this level where, you know, to go out to the woods or something I get to say I do for work is, it's pretty surreal. Yeah, man. Well, so Forrest has made his, you know, we, Forrest and I first met when we, uh, we were coming up with the idea for a TV show where we went out and searched for extinct animals since then Forrest has done a lot of expeditions

looking for rare animals. So Ben, I'm going to pitch you something here. And actually I'm going to make my partner Forrest Galante pitch it to you. Forrest, you're going to go on an expedition around the world. You're going to find the feathers of three very rare birds to make a beautiful bow tie for Ben's company Brackish. Could you go ahead and fill Ben in on what birds' feathers you'll be searching for and where you'll be? Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't I? So, Kyle, you're going to have to pull these up as we go. And then Ben's going to have to tell us what kind of votis he would make out of these feathers, right?

Yeah, exactly. I hope they're not ducks, yeast, hulks, owls, or anything migratory because I won't touch your... They're very, very rare. You'd be amazed at all the research I've had to do. and all the feather laws and the importing and exporting of feather products, there are a laundry list of rules of regs you have to follow. And we follow them to the deed. I mean,

we do not cross any of those. It's just really surreal. But I know it's in the best interest for birds around the world. But I would love to hear your list. All right. What are you going to get for Ben here? All right, Ben. I'm going to pitch you here.

All right, Ben. Well, fortunately, I've got every permit. under the sun and this is a hypothetical game. So I'm going to get for you the best feathers known to man. And I'm going to start in a selfish way with my absolute favorite bird in the world, a bird that was hunted extensively for its feathers by Shaka Zulu because he wanted a headdress, made entirely out of lilac-breasted roller feathers. My favorite bird in the whole world.

Wow. I'll pull that up. Let's take a look. And Kyle's not going to go out. And where will you be searching for this? this bird? In my home country of Zimbabwe, which is very fortunate, very easy for me. It's not the most rare bird in the world. However, I mean, look at the feather. Wow. Beautiful bird. Nobody needs to die anything. I'm going to go out. I'm going to find the lilac breasted roller.

I'm going to pop it on the head. So are you making this? This motel be made for Elton John then? Well, that's not up to me, actually. I'm just the feather mercenary. That's up to Ben. So that's the first one. And then obviously we're making a full one hour of programming. So we'll have to you'll have to find two more birds also. Indeed. Yeah. Well, second up, what I would say is maybe the most beautiful bird in the world.

While I love the lilac breasted roller, I will then be heading to Costa Rica to look for feathers of the resplendent quetzel. Okay. Spendent quetzel. Resplendent peer. Is that related to the west of the west of the west of? pretzels that we find in the mall. Of course.

Oh, look at this. Wow. Wow. That, Kyle, bottom, or second photo or second row, first photo, either once. Show that tail plumage that they have there. You can do a lot with that. Go, go left one. That's a beautiful bird.

Pull that up. What are you doing with these baby photos? For those who are only listening, just do yourself a favor. Google resplendent quetzel and look at the colors on this thing. And if you don't make one, typo, you're lying because nobody can spell resplendent quetzel. Google. All right. So you've been to Zimbabwe. You've been to Costa Rica on the final leg of the journey. Where is the plane headed? Yeah, I'm really mixing it up. I'm going for something

completely different, very ugly, very bizarre. But I guarantee you, I will be the only person in the world with a Hootson bow tie from the Amazon jungle. And for those that don't remember, Hotson is a bird that is standalone. It lives in the Amazon and the Aronoko Basin. Oh, wow. Yeah. And it's a venomous bird. It has venomous lines. It's super weird, super prehistoric, only one of its genus.

Got some turkey colors going on. There's a lot, but that's an elegant looking bird. I like the other two are like rave birds. This guy's more of a black tie up there. Go to that, go to that top center photo there, Kyle. We're looking at plumage here. Look at that. You can do a lot with that.

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I think of those three birds out of, you know, no bird's ever hard for us to obtain a feather. So the procurement of the feather process, I have questions about the bulking that was going to be going on. And so, you know, I don't know if those three are going to make the cut, but they are absolutely stunning. And that goes to what I was saying earlier. You know, Mother Nature's paint rush.

I mean, this says this is, you know, millions. of years of evolution. Yes. And you know what's interesting about what you're saying is that, you know, you think about it, and the male's plumage in all bird species are the more vigorous, the more vibrant, the more colorful, the more splashy, because they have to do the work to attract the mate of the female. And the female typically, and there's a few species that share of the duty, but they usually

are responsible for incubation, which means they have to sit still for long periods of time on the nest. And so they're always very dull and modeled in color and are not very, you know, out going, their colors are not very voluminous like a male would be, and just about every bird species around the world. So I think it's, it's really interesting how, you know, the birds have set up themselves through millions of years of evolution that the male's plumage is just the most outlandish and the females are much more subdued just by the way that, you know, survival has taught the birds how to reproduce. And then you get to human beings

and the males are just like, disgusting, horrible. And the way, They're beautiful. No way. No way. I got to jump in here. Hold on. I got to jump in here. You guys,

you're wrong. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why right now. A couple years ago, I did a social media thing where I got like some of the big, remember Charlie Jordan came on the pod? Yeah. Yeah, gorgeous, right?

She's a gorgeous gal. But I'll tell you what. I went and took like 30 of the world's biggest social media influencers to do wildlife activities around Southern California. While the guys were all literally carbon copies of each other, they were so dreamy. You have no idea. And the girls were hot.

Don't get me wrong. The girls were hot. But these guys, they looked like something out of a fucking Greek statue. They were carving. They all had the same fucking haircut, the same fucking jaw line. Literally,

you couldn't listen to a fucking word. They said they were so dumb. But these were the most beautiful specimens of any organism I've ever seen. I just wanted to put them in a glass tank somewhere. Fair enough. You're right. We don't have that around here. We don't have that.

Yeah. Well, look, over my shoulder, I've got my Christmas tree up, incandescent glass balls. Yeah, happy holidays, fellas. I'll be on a wonderful base this week. Hell yeah. That's true. I'll tell you what. You know, holiday party season is here.

Yeah, started. Yeah. One of our Brosners who submitted to our brackish contest has been chosen at random and has won a $500 gift certificate to Brackish to get their own stunning feather bow tie whatever items they want. They get a lot of gear five or bucks. Yes, man. Look at this. This beauty that I've got, I'm wearing this to my Christmas party black tie.

Yeah, here we're. Absolutely. Ben. Yeah. Let's announce, man. Are we ready? We're ready. We're ready. And Norris, Colorado, Spring, Colorado, one of my favorite states out there in the lower 48. You are the winner of the brackish raffle. Congratulations, bud.

I hope you get some cool stuff. You get a lot of gear for 500 bucks. So happy shopping. Yeah, you're going to be the best dressed at whatever party you're going to. You could just wear it with a t-shirt and you'd still be the best. Not only that. You're going to have lots of people wanting to talk to you. And that's a problem that I have when I go to part.

Nobody wants to talk to me. Yeah. It's just there's nothing to talk about. It's a conversation starter. Congrats, Noah. And thank you, Ben, for sponsoring that. That's super cool, man. Yeah, we're happy to do it.

Hey, tis the season of giving. Hell yeah. Absolutely, brother. Yes, indeed. Ben, thank you so much for jumping on with us. This has been fun. We love collaborating with you. This all started when I went hunting for a cool bowtie for a cool event.

And here we are years later with you on the pod, handing out, handing out unbelievable prizes for the holidays. So, yeah, thank you. much, man. Keep up the great work. Thank you, sir. Thanks guys for having me. We're honored to be here and we'll keep helping out the ideas and, you know, look forward to what the future holds because, hey, guess

what? We deal in feathers. The sky's not a limit. It's where we soar. Hell yeah. Boom. Boom. Out. Got out of that. Mike dropped. He dropped it. See you, buddy. Later, guys. Thanks a lot, Ben. Yeah, ma'am. All right. Well, that was awesome. You got to love somebody that is that passionate about

feathers and what he does and being outside. It's great. Absolutely. Great story. There's a lot going on today. I was like talking to entrepreneurs that just liked something and then made it their full-time job. Yeah. That's the dream, honestly.

It really is. Until you do a podcast with two guys that you despise. And then you're like, wow, now I have to do this every week. I mean, I like the other two guys. It's just they're impossible to work with. That's fair. We are. It's been fun, gentlemen.

All right, guys. Well, this has been fun. It's been a nice pod. I've enjoyed it. I'm, you know, look, tree there, going to decorate it tonight. It's time, but we're going full on. Yeah, holidays, holiday season. Eirat, what do you call it, Peter?

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