Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Russian Spy Whale Hvaldimir Found Dead...What Happened? - TWT 158
Episode Date: October 14, 2024Thanks to our sponsors Prize Picks, DUER, Pretty Litter and MUD/WTR. This week we discuss the controversial death of Hvaldimir, the Russian spy whale, a cat travels hundreds of miles to make it's way... home, and we play the based on its native language game. Enjoy! Prize Picks: Download the app today and use code WILD to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.com/wild DUER: Right now, our listeners get 20% off your first purchase when you use our exclusive URL http://shopduer.com/wild Pretty Litter: Pretty Litter is amazing! You have to try it. Save 20% on your first order and get a free cat toy with code WILD at https://prettylitter.com/wild MUD/WTR: Our listeners get up to 43% off your entire order, Free Shipping and a Free Rechargeable Frother when you use code WILD Get More Wild Times PodcastEpisodes: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wildtimespod/subscribe https://www.patreon.com/wildtimespod More Wild Times: Instagram: http://instagram.com/wildtimespod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wildtimespodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wildtimespod/ X: https://x.com/wildtimespod Discord: https://discord.gg/ytzKBbC9Db Website: https://wildtimes.club/ Merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch Battle Royale Card Game: https://wildtimesmedia.thrivecart.com/battle-royale/ Our Favorite Products: https://www.amazon.com/shop/thewildtimespodcast Music/Jingles by: www.soundcloud.com/mimmkey This video may contain paid promotion. #ad #sponsored #forrestgalante #extinctoralive #podcast
Transcript
Discussion (0)
As the crispy chicken sandwich from 7-Eleven, people always call me loud.
And I'm like, yeah, I know.
I'm crispy.
Did you expect me to whisper?
If you want quiet, go eat some soup and reflect.
Like, I know I'm a handful.
I'm bold, I'm juicy.
Throw some pickles and barbecue sauce on me, and baby, I'm a whole meal.
And with seven rewards, I'm just $4.
Quiet.
No.
Crispy, saucy, and $4?
Very.
Only at 711.
Valley 362326, participating stores only while supplies lastly out for full terms.
This episode is brought to you by Netflix.
Most valuable promotions in Netflix are putting on a blockbuster triple headliner on Saturday, May 16th, at the Intuit Dome in Los Angeles.
In the main event, Ronda Rousey returns after nearly a decade to face fellow woman's MMA pioneer Gina Carano.
Plus co-main's Nate Diaz versus Mike Perry and the best heavyweight in the world, Francis Nganoe versus Felipe Lenz.
Watch Rousey versus Carano, live tonight, only on Netflix.
Peter came into the studio, fired up today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In great mood.
I saw him in the parking lot.
He's got his witch head on.
Yeah.
And he's just like,
beautiful day,
huh?
I heard that as I was pulling it.
I didn't know that was him.
He's like,
it's fucking perfect out here.
It's nice,
real nice.
I worked out before I came here.
Is that why you're so happy?
You got some endorphins running.
That's right.
I mean,
the kids were out of the house.
I had an extra hour
where I would have just been
milling around anxious about.
Dude,
your skin looks good.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're handsome Pete.
Yeah, we'll just keep that short.
But neither is to say,
got some son.
All right.
Well, welcome back
to the wild times.
This is the greatest
podcast in the world
where we talk about
animals and wildlife
and nonsense.
I'm one of your
three hosts.
Forrest Galante,
the broologist.
Got PhD in
podcasting on my
far right over there.
Skinny Pete himself,
Mr. Retep.
Yeah.
I mean, like I said,
great mood today.
I'm happy to talk
about animals
and life and stuff.
And sitting in between us,
we got the broducer himself.
Papa P.
He was a little,
like just a little cheers.
I got to do it now, too.
Yeah, I need it.
Or it's top of the morning.
This is how I like to start my day.
Top of the morning, too, yeah.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Yep, yeah.
Ooh, that's yummy.
What's going on with you guys?
Well, I'll tell you what.
I went to bed without eating dinner last night because I drank myself to sleep.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, real depressing.
Really depressing.
I was, I had five, half of my fantasy football team playing in the night game.
Mm-hmm.
And so I sat in the garage with my partner just on the phone.
Okay.
Two bottles of wine, didn't eat, and then woke up this morning feeling like I wanted to cry.
Yeah. So this is...
I've come around. I've come around.
These are the personal problems that you've been telling us about?
Yes, exactly.
Okay.
Makes sense.
All right.
I thought so.
I told you.
It was the alcoholism.
Peter, what, what's going on with you?
How's the weight loss journey?
No, man, the weight loss journey is great.
I was just telling you earlier, listen, it's not even hard to do.
The recipe is simple.
don't eat as much and do some exercise every day.
But it's really hard to stay motivated.
But I use this app that calculates my calories
and I just don't go over them.
And then you lose weight.
It's just not hard.
There you go.
I like it.
I feel good,
but it's changed my whole identity.
I mean,
you're calling me skinny Pete.
Yeah,
you're not Peter.
I don't know if I like that.
It makes me nervous.
Even if you get fat,
you'll still be skinny Pete.
He is.
He's objectifying me.
Yeah, you see what I do when the lights are off.
Oh my God.
Please keep it in your palms.
Well, what about you, man?
You're what, leaving tomorrow?
Tomorrow, yep.
I mean, let's get into it.
Flying to Inja.
I don't know if you can say that.
Flying to India.
I understand that.
No, it's exciting.
We're going heading over there to check out Ventara,
which is Anat Ambani's giant private wildlife reserve
that he's building four times the size of Central Park.
So is it done or is it a work in progress?
It's a work in progress, but it's mostly done.
What kind of is my understanding?
What kind of critters are we going to be seeing?
They have so much, is my understanding.
I mean, I think there's almost every megafauna species in the world there at this point.
He's a billionaire, right?
So he's just, he's gone out and he's basically rescuing tons and tons of animals.
Dude, it's amazing.
I was talking to the director of the facility, and he's like, we'll get a call that there's an elephant
running through a village.
Like, they're way up in northwestern India.
And he's like, we'll get a call that there's an elephant running through a village in Sri Lanka,
and he'll just send four helicopters to go get it like that.
Like you just like go get it, like save it before there's a problem.
Well, that's, I mean, that's what billionaires should be using their money for.
A hundred percent. Yeah.
I saw your video and you said that and I was like, man, they should be using their money for
things that are going to keep humanity alive.
I've had a strong opinion on this and it's not a popular one and I'm going to bring it up
again regardless.
The space race thing is irritating and pointless.
You probably disagree because you like alien stuff.
But I just like, I'm like, just stop it.
Stop wasting money on a space race.
Like, think of all those.
resources went into conservation, what an impact they could have, or just literally just buying land and
preserving it. It doesn't even have to be like a big conservation plant. I actually tend to agree with
you because it's like why. So the space race is, is, it's egocentric. Well, it's basically just like a
vanity contest. And the only people that are going to be able to use it are the ones who are escaping
the world that they're ruining. Right. Like, you know, Amazon, Jeff Bezos, with all the boxes and all
the plastic, everything, Amazon, he's just, we're, I mean, and it's not him. It's everybody.
We're all consumers littering the world with all this shit destroying it. And then Bezos and
Musk and, like Mark Zuckerberg, the three of them are the only ones that are going to be able to
take off to Mars. Do you think they know something that we don't? Like, you remember the movie
asteroids where like only the Pentagon knows that the asteroid is coming and they're like,
all right, we got to fix this first. Do you think those three have just like sat in a room
with a couple world leaders and they're just like, look, a world's ending.
in 18 years regardless.
Do you guys want to do something about it or not?
I don't know.
I think that it goes back to, you know, ancient cultures.
It's a tale as old as time that we are like curious to look into the skies and go
what's out there.
Sure.
And, you know, it's also an odd thing that we, even though it's such a crazy time scale,
we know that we inhabit a planet that has an expiration date.
But they all do, right?
I mean, every planet has an expiration date.
But that's a weird thing to know.
It is.
Like there is, we live on this rock.
Right.
That can't last forever.
And so it's just natural.
Once our sun dies, we all die.
Yeah.
There's a.
And isn't there, Kyle, look this up quickly.
Leave that tab open, though, because that's really cool step.
But look this up quickly.
When is the sun, our son expected to die?
Four billion years, I think.
From now?
Pat's got a countdown going.
He's got one of those Apple on his phone.
Okay, this says five.
I've also seen four, but yeah, billions of years.
Yo, business idea.
Why don't we make a timer that's just to the expiration date?
The sun dying?
Yeah, the sun dying, dude.
It would sell millions.
It's funny because it's like, it's like the sun's going to die in five billion years,
but don't worry.
It's like, cool, yeah, we'll be dead.
Right.
Yeah.
But like, it is an interesting thing to be like, can we figure something out?
Like, we're-five billion years.
Yeah, I mean, we know that there will be mass extinction events between then, you know, now and then.
There will be super volcanoes that it'll expect.
We don't like to think about that.
But, yeah.
But wait, so the sun will die in five billion years.
How old is the Earth?
Can you look that one up?
I think four billion?
Four billion.
Four billion. Four billion. Four billion.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So we're halfway.
We're middle-aged right now.
Yeah, well, and our planet is a middle-aged white guy who moses lawn.
And humans are most generic.
All right.
Humans are what, 300,000 years old?
No, way more than that.
Really?
I thought 300,000 was the.
the newest number that they came up with.
Oh, 200,000.
Oh, well, because I, no, like, it's pretty crazy because it was, like, groundbreaking.
They used to, like, very recently, I believe they thought it was, like, 50,000 years old.
And then they discovered some tools that were, like, 250,000 years old.
And, like, just changed the entire paradigm of history.
How crazy is that?
Like, we don't even know that.
Nah, we don't know.
But I do.
Yeah, we have no clue.
So there is a, you want to hear about the latest conspiracy?
theory out there about aliens?
You know we do.
So the James Webb
Telescope, you know, it's like our most powerful
telescope that they've sent hundreds of millions
of light years away or whatever.
And, you know, it can see just
across the galaxy further than
anything else in the galaxy can see.
So there is a
conspiracy theory that the James
Webb Telescope has seen something
that is on its way
here and it's going to arrive in
2027, I believe.
So that's what I'm saying.
What a...
if our billionaires all know this.
No, no, I know.
That's what made me think of it.
And that, that...
An asteroid?
Well, hold on.
So the conspiracy theory is that certain members of Congress have been briefed on this.
And so now there's all this speculation on what it might be.
And a lot of people in the circles I run in think that it's like a mothership for all the,
all the UFOs and UAPs that have been flying around doing reconnaissance.
Oh, boy.
I said, this is the mothership coming in.
and we don't know if it's going to be faux or friendly.
So what is this based on, though?
No, it's not even true.
It's, there's no evidence.
Literally, there's a guy on a podcast, I think called Vetted or something, who just said this.
And it's like, you know, all the nutbags in the subreddits that I hang out in, they just take it and keep repeating it like, oh my God.
And then you're having a whole.
Quoting it is fact.
Yes.
And you're having a dialogue on it.
And by the time, like, the seventh post has come, everybody just accepts it as fact.
This is the new Mayan calendar, 2012.
Oh, yes, absolutely.
Straight up.
Kyle, let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
What's in the news?
Okay, thank you for the jingle.
Saw this.
We talked about it.
Speaking of conspiracy theories.
Do you remember Vladimir,
the Russian spy whale?
Of course.
Waldemir.
Vladimir.
Voldemir.
Voldemir.
Voldemir.
Vladimir is, I think, in Harry Potter.
Voldemir was the Russian spy whale.
about it if you're tuning into this for the first time. This whale was discovered in the
fjords of Norway, I think, harnessed up with Russian spy equipment. He liked to follow people
around. Beluga whale, right? Beluga whale. We know he was a trained Russian spy whale.
There was a group, Kyle, maybe you can find the name of the group, like friends, one whale,
thank you, one whale that started this organization that was basically dedicated to saving and
and funding
Voldemir's survival, right?
They removed the whole spy harness thing.
I didn't know that the history
that you're talking about.
That's crazy.
I didn't know he had like he was equipped with spy.
Oh, yeah.
That's how they knew.
That's why.
He was a spy whale.
I just thought they suspected by the way on the spy.
Showed up with a Russian tattoo under his flipper.
Under his flipper.
Yeah.
And yeah, so Voldemir for a couple years
has been cruising around Norway and other parts.
of Scandinavia in the fjords, and he's been monitored by one whale, and they've been like,
you know, he's super friendly. I think there's a famous video of somebody throwing a rugby ball
and he brings it back. I'm sure that's Voldemir. It is. And, you know, everybody loves him.
He's like this iconic guy and he just cruises country to country and you like see him in the port
and wave at him. Not anymore. Voldemir got murked.
Oh, my God. Random.
He didn't just die? He got actually murdered? He got murdered. So the question is, I'm basing this
off nothing but speculation.
Well, this says the cause of death remains unknown.
It doesn't.
There's bullet holes in him, Kyle.
Maybe you can find the bullet holes.
Not funny, but funny.
Well, I mean, it's funny because my brain immediately goes to someone in Russia
was ordered to execute Voldemir the spy whale before he divulges.
Well, because Prussian secrets.
This whale is making me look stupid.
Yeah, something.
Something's going on.
But yeah, go to the one over.
Wow.
Yeah, those are gunshot holes.
There's no question about it.
look like it. Yeah, he's got a series of bloody
holes. So where did they find the carcass?
Was he just floating? He was floating
in one of the harbors in Norway.
Got it. I was going to find it on their
Instagram. That's so sad, man.
Go to the One Whale Instagram. There's a lot more
like in-depth photos and stuff on there.
But yeah, but something
strange happened here. They found him
washed up. Now, look,
I mean, yeah, see, look at that. That's not,
that's foul play right there. Yeah,
absolutely. There's a big bloody hole.
Jesus. He's been
shot. So, okay, I wish I didn't know this, but it's true, and I'll admit to it. Here in California,
there are grungy fishermen who will shoot seals and sea lions, right? They have these things
called seal bombs, blah, blah, blah. That's a whole different thing. It's like a deterrent.
But the squid fishermen in particular, um, and the party boats, which a lot of them are like meth
guys and stuff like that because you have to be up all night. It's crazy, crazy grungy industry.
Yeah. But they'll have seals and sea lions come and get in their squid nets and rip the nets to shreds
and stuff, and they'll shoot the seals, or sea lions, not seals. It's California
sea lions. Totally illegal, whatever, but they carry handguns, they go out, they pop them in the
head, this whole thing. It's terrible. It's illegal, whatever, but it happens. I've heard it,
I've seen it, I've seen it, I've seen guys going overboard, shooting, I've seen it. Humans are
shitty. It's, it's just the way more. My point is, one of two things has happened to
Voldemir, well, I guess three things. One is somebody wanted the notoriety of killing a famous whale.
I think that's the least likely. Still anonymous. Yeah, because they're still anonymous. They're
anonymous, but I think they want to feel like I killed the famous whale.
Like they tell their friends.
Yeah, because humans are terrible people.
Yeah.
That's, uh, that's, that's, that's number one.
Okay.
Number two is, it's a fisherman in a situation like what I just explained, right, where you're
going to get whale, no matter what.
And I believe, because I was talking to people when I was up in Churchill doing the polar bear
thing, I believe that like the whales steal the cod and stuff really, really quickly when
you're fishing, specifically belugas.
Oh, well, especially, and the genius beluga probably.
Yeah.
Especially the trained beluga.
He was like, yeah, I'm going to fall of his boat until they catch cod.
So that's option number two.
And the third, and in my opinion, most likely, is that he was literally assassinated by another Russian spy.
Wow.
Do you think the other Russian spy was a different beluga whale?
Wow.
I had not considered that.
Listen, I'm just possible.
It's possible.
With a machine gun, scrap film.
So he has these weird holes in his body, but there's, they had a stick in his mouth and an empty stomach.
So he kind of starved to death, right?
Is it what they're saying?
That sounds like a like some kind of weird.
torture.
Something's going on here, man.
I'm not like you, Peter, with the conspiracy stuff,
but I believe that there's something suspicious here.
Well, this has some evidence behind.
That's a gunshot wound.
Yeah.
Anybody saying otherwise is full of nonsense.
Go back to the other article there quickly, Kyle.
See, there was a different organization,
Sebastian Strand on Marine Mind,
which is a different organization,
reported no visible injuries
and urge against focusing on disagreements
during a time of morning, blah, blah, blah.
That, see, that is where we should be researching because that sounds like some shady shit.
That's suspicious.
Yeah, that's very suspicious.
Well, but so what the, how could he say there's no visible injuries when there's published photos of a hole in the body?
That's why it's suspicious.
I believe that he, their statement was prior to the autopsy.
Oh, the photos coming out.
Yeah, but it's interesting, though.
Like, what's the point of just going, guys, stop talking about this.
Let's just more shut up.
Don't worry about how it died.
Right, right.
Very strange.
I get, you know, let's mourn the whale, but like, after you find out, you should retract that statement and make a new one and be like, wait a minute.
They might have and we might not have included.
But regardless, it's just like, it does seem very suspicious that they just be like, hey, nobody, nobody focused on why he died.
Let's just be sad.
He's dead.
Well, just, I mean, it does suck, dude.
This whale, how, do we know how old the whale is?
I mean, he's over.
15 years old.
So he's been around for over a decade, man.
Just living his life.
He's retired.
Like, living the good life.
and the poor...
He's retired.
He's an ex-special forces whale,
and he's now just living his best life
on a beach in Norway.
He's got bitches up to the zoo.
I picture Vladimir as the James Bond of Wales.
Like, he rolls into a pot of all female belugas,
and he's like, Amir, Vlad Amir.
Apparently, a week before this happened,
there were plans to relocate him.
Right.
But I'll tell you this,
because I reached out to watch.
and started talking with the former head of it. Yeah, he's not there anymore. For like three
months, we were going back and forth on this. They've been plans to relocate him and do this,
that and the other thing for like years. But it's like massively complicated because he,
he just moves country every like three months. So it's like Norway goes, yeah, okay, you can do this.
We went through all the bureaucracy. Here's a little bit of funding, whatever. And then he's in Denmark.
I got that adds a new, a new potential theory to the race here. Could it be like a,
somebody who's just sick of it and doesn't want to spend the money and is like, fuck this shit,
I'm going to kill this whale.
I don't see that.
You don't?
I mean, I get bringing it up, but I don't, because why?
They don't have to spend the money.
Well, wasn't there something, I can't remember.
There's something similar.
I feel like that this happened.
That's the only reason I thought of it.
I thought that some humans somewhere had done this before.
If you're someone that has dedicated your life to like, or, you know, many, many hours of
your life to working for a nonprofit to try and save this one individual whale,
I don't think you just get sour and go, I'm going to shoot him in the fish.
I don't think, I don't think it.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm not saying the nonprofit did it.
I'm saying somebody who is like annoyed that there's being resources expended on this.
I see.
You know,
I see.
So it just has another theory to the mix.
What are we watching a fucking ad?
What is this?
Turn off.
Why are they looking?
I'll tell you this.
Kyle,
you're derailing the whole podcast.
They're both watching this ad.
So why did you reach out to one whale?
because there was a big headline.
I think we talked about it
where he got stuck.
Do you remember this?
I wrote a whole thing.
He got stuck somewhere.
He got stuck in a fjord somewhere
and the ice was coming in
and they were going to relocate him.
What happened here?
Yeah, I mean, I don't remember.
But I reached out to them and I was like,
you know, this was like when I was relocating
the elephants and stuff and I was like,
let me help you relocate the whale and tell that story.
It's awesome.
But you can do the whole backstory on how he's a Russian spy
and blah, blah, blah, blah. And they told me, and I don't think this is confidential. They're like,
we've been working on a documentary on the whale for many years. And I was like, yeah, well, fair enough.
So that was where it, you know, came and ended. But I just, I was very, like, emotionally invested
in the story. But it is. This is really interesting because there's a lot of news outlets saying he
wasn't shot. He had a 14 inch stick stuck in his mouth. And he starved to death. And starved to death.
But then there's other people being like, this is a cover up. Like, there's an whole Instagram page
dedicated to it being a cover-up
and the woman who runs it was, you know,
was there with the body and documented the holes.
Right.
And said these aren't this, you know,
experts have looked at these.
These aren't from bird packs or exploding parasites.
Yeah, those are bullet holes.
And she's like, so basically they were trying to cover this up.
And this lady is now, what's her name, by the way?
One whale is the ones that are exposing what really happened.
Yeah, that was the group I spoke to.
I forget her name.
She's the woman who's like, she's been following Voldemir around for like years.
Hogue.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, this is definitely something we should keep an eye on and circle back because I want
to know what the end verdict on this is because, you know, I mean, there's only one
Holadamel.
So what would a possible reason for a cover-up be about a dead beluga whale?
Yeah, so not fat anymore.
I've lost about 30 pounds.
I know.
That's why you're skinny Pete now.
Guess what?
What?
Still got my doers on.
No, you don't.
These are the same doers that I've had on for six months.
They fit.
They still fit because they got the stretch line.
They look better on you now, but everything looks better because you're not fat now.
These pants are amazing, dude.
Antibacterial.
I love them.
I don't smell.
No, I feel you.
I'm wearing mine literally right now.
I like these brown pants because they don't look like jeans.
They look like nice pants.
They look like field pants.
Yeah, I feel like I can get right off the plane and right into the bush with them, which is my
plan for India tomorrow.
You look like a doer.
I am a doer.
Well, if you want to support the show, try doer.
We really like it.
We're all wearing it.
It's time to level up your wardrobe with Dewer. Order yours today. Check out Deer's flagship stores in L.A. or Denver.
Shop online at shopdoer.com slash wild. Because right now our listeners get 20% off their first order when you use our exclusive URL.
Shop, D-U-E-R.com slash wild. This is an amazing deal. Don't wait. Go now. Get 20% off at shopdoer.com slash wild.
Holiday's coming up. Yep. Guess what I'm getting the wife for Christmas?
What? Well, what's the one thing that she's been relentlessly.
pestering me about.
You both know what it is.
Periless cat.
I swear to God,
it would be a complete
and utter hard no
if it wasn't for how much
you guys rave about the pretty litter thing.
It has changed my thoughts
on cat ownership.
It has completely taken away
any sense of smell
from the litter box.
I,
whether they were a sponsor or not,
I have texted friends about it
to get pretty litter
to subscription service,
non-clumping formula,
traps odor.
I don't know how it works.
It is magical.
It is the best pet product I have ever owned.
And that is not just because they're paying us to say it.
Listen, pretty litter is amazing.
You have to try it.
Go to pretty litter.com slash wild to save 20% on your first order and get a free cat toy.
That's pretty litter.com slash wild to save 20% on your first order and get a free cat toy.
Pretty litter.com slash wild.
Terms and conditions apply C-site for details.
for the moments that matter
choose curad naturals
infused with aloe vera and vitamin E
Kyrad natural's bandages
protect your unexpected scrapes, cuts and burns
while also moisturizing your skin
find deeper relief with natural ingredients
you can trust to start the healing
when life surprises call for the best
choose Kiraad a deeper level of care
shop the full collection on Amazon
or visit kurad.com to learn more
he's a coke dealer
that whale is obviously running drugs
if he's a trained spy whale
and you can get him to run across a fjord
from country to country with bails of drugs
and he knows too much and he can communicate
with the English people maybe he's speaking English now
wait I want to take a little dogleg here
because something in that post really caught my attention there
exploding parasites
yeah say more
you're asking me
Kyle
Google exploding whale parasites.
This may be worth a pause
so that we can research this and talk about it.
What? How is this a thing?
Dude.
I'm certain that first photo is not wrong.
It's a literal atom bomb explosion picture.
But what, are they saying that the parasites die?
They were saying like, oh, this looks like a gunshot wound.
And then I'm sure there are people saying, oh, no, it's probably birds that, you know,
were picking on the carcass or exploding parasites.
I just didn't know exploding.
Do they mean like exploding out of the skin?
Like, you know, like a worm boars out or something like that.
A parasitic nematode.
Yeah.
Okay.
So not like actually self-destructing parasites.
What's a nematode?
Is that a word?
A nematode is, is it a type of isopod?
It's this gross, like stringy.
Yeah.
Parasite.
No, we don't want that in our skin.
Oof.
And they borrow into your tissue.
In fact, type in nematode pork, raw pork.
Yuck.
Rotest.
I don't want to say.
He's got a lot.
thing about food.
Dude, don't eat raw pork.
You get these tapeworms, and they're in the meat.
Yuck.
You should definitely not eat any raw salmon.
I've seen this in salmon.
There's videos on like TikTok of these worms.
The worst is Amberjack.
See if you can find that quickly.
I love Amberjack.
Okay, so this is important actually.
For the consumers at home, this is important.
Pacific Amberjack, Aji, which they call it, perfectly fine, doesn't get the parasites, comes
from the Pacific Ocean.
Greater Amberjack looks.
like this. So click any, like, click the one with the hand over. Yeah, look at that. All those
white things are worms. So those aren't small worms. Those are worm-sized worms.
Oh, they're like that big. But the little babies are probably tiny that grow in your body
up to seven eight inches. Like where the guy's grotesque thumb is, go to that one, the one over.
Dude, Kyle, I want to get close-ups of Kyle and Pat's face. Oh, they're both so. I don't know what's
worst. The worms or the thaw. That thumb is bad. Remember we looked up that condition where your
fingers are all thumbs? That guy. Yeah, hammer it.
That guy's hammer thumb in it.
Dog leg, fingers are all thumbs.
There's a condition.
The hammer thumb thing.
But wait, before we get to hammer thumb,
Kyle is furiously Googling everything we say.
I've caught these greater amberjack, like off of Marco Island and stuff,
and every filet looks like this.
You flay it out, and it's just wriggling with worms in the flesh.
I mean, it can't taste good.
Why do they love Amberjack?
I don't know.
I don't know why there's such a wormy-ass fish.
But no, we have chosen not to eat them.
Sounds gross.
But I love the position.
Amberjack. Get out of sushi. It's delicious. It's one of my favorites. So you go, I love Amberjack.
When have you eaten Amberjack? Oh, I had it. I can actually tell you I was out with my,
with my wife's sister's boyfriend for the first time a couple years ago. And we went to a sushi
restaurant and I had Amberjack. I'd never heard of it. And raw with worms. Well, I'm hoping it's
Pacific. It was. It was delicious. And also you said that the Atlantic one is disgusting.
It doesn't taste good.
Yeah, the greater Amberjack's not good eating.
It doesn't taste good, no.
How forced was that situation?
Yeah.
Your wife's, sister's boyfriend that you had to sit at sushi with.
No, no, it was the first time.
I like meeting people.
In fact, I was just talking about the other day how my life has taken such a bad term
because I never meet any people or do anything anymore because I don't go anywhere
ever since the pandemic.
I don't know if I can live with New Pete.
Old Pete was like grumpy and angry and explosive.
Fatter people are more fun to be around
Like, I don't know if I can live with new feet
I mean, we're fatter to be around
But we're more depressed. Yeah, but that's what I liked
about you. This upbeat, happy, positive, skinny
Pete is not for me.
What if I'm going to be fucking...
So, it says...
The worms in the amberjack,
it's just the intermediate stage
of this particular type of tapeworm's life cycle
and they eventually find their permanent home
inside sharks. Wow. I didn't
know that. A double dose of danger.
That's really?
Yeah, weird, right?
So sharks do love Amberjack.
Like, you see that when you're spearfishing on the rigs and stuff.
Like, they'll, you'll shoot whatever, you know, a cobia or something else.
And the sharks kind of ignore it.
You shoot an Amberjack and they're like, whop onto the amberjack.
Maybe they're addicted to the worm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wonder if it's hitting their brain and they're just like, must get worms.
Yeah.
I know.
It's weird.
Things that have weird life cycles like that where they're like, it's like, hang on.
I'm going to be in this amberjack for a little bit.
Yeah.
And then eventually a shark's going to eat it, and that's where I'm going to really thrive.
It's crazy.
Speaking of a weird, oh, sorry, go ahead.
Well, just why evolve that?
Like, just, I don't care if you call it God or immaculate creation or evolution or whatever you call it.
No, none of them.
None of them should have made a parasitic organism that's entire life cycle thrives being in the tissue of other organisms.
Yuck.
Yeah, I mean, dude, life finds a way no matter what.
For us, speaking of which, I sent you a video about a discerty.
disgusting pod of something that was...
You should have sent that to him
because he knows what that is.
I didn't know that that's what it was.
Have you sent it to Kyle?
No.
Let's see.
Let's see.
This is a real test for all to pop a pee over here.
Okay.
I'm going to take the video.
I'm going to send it to Kyle right now.
And Patrick, you're going to say,
and the Brosner's at home, of course.
Kyle, can I send you on WhatsApp?
Does that work?
He's like, yeah, but then I got to figure out
how to get to the fucking...
That's what I didn't know.
Then I have to send it to the cloud.
They have to plug in this one thing.
Good.
take at least 30 seconds.
All right.
With that,
I don't want to give any clues here.
I just want to see if Patrick
knows what this is.
It's a potato buck.
No.
Play the audio.
Okay, well.
Oh, you can't hear it.
It's like a little, uh,
this is good pod.
It's,
it's okay.
If you're not listening,
you have to come and watch.
But what it is is a brown,
sticky substance on Peter's
pool lawn chair thing.
Impossible to get off.
Literally super good on there.
Is that a,
a mold?
of a...
There's too much audio going on, Kyle. I'll kill it.
What is it? Some little isopod thing?
So, what if I told you this?
You once sent me the exact same text message
on your screen door.
Oh, it was that...
Is that a praying mantis egg set?
Praying mantis egg set?
Holy shit, no, because I remember that...
You can't get that shit off.
Dude, but I remember that video, Pat,
because you sent it to the group
and I, like, the video, I didn't understand the perspective.
I thought it was tiny, and this thing was fucking, like, huge.
Oh, no, it was big. It was bigger than that one.
Dude, I was, I was like, what is this disgusting thing?
I was like, did some possum calm and, like, take a shit on my, on my, like, furniture?
So, so I had a praying mantis on my screen.
She laid this thing out of her ass and then died stuck to the screen.
And that's what it was?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And then, so then I was reading about it and it's like, yeah, they die.
And then the, you know, X period later, they'll hatch.
and they'll eat the body and that's their first meal.
Eat the mother.
But the mother eventually fell off the screen before they hatched.
A bird or something got it because I didn't move the body.
And then I moved out of the house and it was still there.
So I never got to see them hatch.
So quick question.
So this praying mantis pod that was basically super glue stuck to my fucking chair.
Yeah.
I couldn't like I can't pull it off and it's like all dry.
So is it done?
Is it done its job or are they still in there?
That one's done, I think.
I can't tell by the video, but so two things.
One is to get it off, you can take like a knife or something or a flat edge and run it down the underside of the edge and then you don't destroy all the eggs.
If their eggs are still in there, I would also say just leave it and let it hatch.
Yeah, yeah.
Now that I know what it is.
Now that you've thumbed it.
You're probably thinking, and if you're not familiar with this, like the viewers at home, listeners at home, are probably thinking they lay that like a chicken lays an egg.
That's thousands of little tiny soft eggs that are laid together and then solidified.
in the sun and like dry hard.
So it's not like an egg like, oh, that's an egg for an individual praying mantis.
That's thousands of baby praying.
When I was touching it there, was I touching the eggs or the eggs on the inside of this
outer thing?
That's the like exterior that dries in the sun and wind.
And then inside of that are individual tiny little eggs, like thousands of them.
Good.
I'm glad I didn't mess anything up.
I'll leave it.
Yeah.
Now that I know.
But man, I was like, my wife saw it and she was disgusted.
Go to that one in the bowl there.
Kyle?
And the bowl?
Yep. See?
That's what will come out of it eventually.
Dude, I love praying mantises, by the way.
Whenever I see them, I am like, these are the coolest looking alien bugs that exist.
So let me ask you this.
Do you still have your hermit crab or not?
I do.
Okay.
So when you get home, that's what the inside looks like.
See the exoskeleton and then the little pods.
When you get home, if you want, take a knife, like a flat, like a butter knife, not like
a sharp knife, and scrape down the cushion.
That thing will pop off.
Then take that, put it in your hermit crab.
tank. Done. I will do it.
Throw in like a cricket
from the garden or something like that.
Just push it and throw it in there.
Then it'll perform the same service
that the dead mother's body would have.
And you'll have a bowl,
you'll have a whole bunch of baby little praying mantises.
One day just open it up outside.
I'm going to document this. This sounds amazing.
One week ago,
I learned that praying man had no idea.
Because I'm running, right?
And my running path, I run on the sidewalk,
but it's just I'm dodging lizards the entire time.
Yeah, totally.
I've seen you do it.
You're like,
there's a million lizards.
So I'm just dodging lizards.
So I'm always looking down.
And I almost step on the stick.
And I just kind of jump over it.
And then I'm like,
wait,
and I look back,
it's a fucking praying mantis on the sidewalk,
but it's changed color to be the color of the sidewalk.
Grayish.
What a dummy.
It's going to get stepped on that way.
I had no idea that they had this power.
Are they color changing?
I mean,
or is it a different species?
I don't.
I think it's a different species.
I think it's a different species.
I think it's a different.
exact color of the sidewalk.
Pat, I think that dodging lizards would be a great name for your autobiography.
Dodging lizards.
I mean, it feels like my whole life these days.
Skittering lizards is even better.
It just says that they could be in different phases of their life.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
So they change colors over time.
It's not like a chameleon, you know, where they're like, oh, I'm going to adapt to this
environment.
No, it's like a human who gets all gross and weird and mealy as we get old.
All your freckles join up.
Have you ever seen an old person, dude?
All right, let's see you here.
He's like offended.
I've seen old people.
My mother was an old people.
My mother was an old person.
All right, we got another news headline here.
This one's incredible.
I don't want to know anything except the headline.
Let's go.
Let's hear it.
No, you do it.
No, I did the first one.
Cat lost in Yellowstone travels 800 miles to reunite with owners after two months.
Wow.
It's the real life homeward bound.
Remember homeward bound?
Yes, of course.
Great movie.
What happened here?
Well, I mean, first of all, while you read,
I'll just mention something.
How did they, I want to know how they know that it took, well, because it was gone for two months,
but how do they know it traveled 800 miles?
How else did it get home?
One way or another, whether it took a plane or a car or a walk, it traveled 800 miles.
That one snake took a plane at one time.
Wait, go back to the cat's name.
That's the most important part of the story.
Rainbow.
But two different words.
Spelled R-A-Y-N-E, B-E-A-U, Rainbow.
Rainbow.
It's a genius name.
name I've ever heard. So what happened is a couple was in Yellowstone and they lost their cat,
jumped out of the car, ran off. They tried for... Definitely not supposed to have a cat in Yellowstone.
They tried for days putting out treats and toys to get them back, but unfortunately they had to, you know,
leave. They thought it was a goner. Two months later, the cat shows up at a local animal hospital
in their hometown. Oh, wow. And the cat was chipped, microchipped. And so... That is wild.
gave him the old scan and knew where he was from.
But how could the cat have known?
Yeah.
How could the cat have known?
The exact details of his journey remain a mystery.
That's how Homeward Bound is.
That's why you have to watch Homeward Bound.
So you know the journey the dogs go on.
Wasn't there a cat and Homer Bound too?
Or is it just dogs?
I think it was a dog.
Kyle, you don't even know what we're talking about.
You know it?
Let's see.
Let's go homeward Bounder.
Yeah.
Milo Notice is most sad movie ever made.
Well, yeah, especially when you find out that
what they actually did to the cat in the movie
in real life.
Were they drown them?
Oh yeah,
there was a cat.
Yeah,
the cat was like
the sassy female,
right?
Yeah,
in Homeward Bound.
Wasn't she super sassy?
Be honest,
I don't think I've seen it.
What?
I'm just fascinated.
This is how great movies are made.
Like, you read this headline
and then you're like,
wait, we need to know about the journey of the cat
and then you just make up a whole plot around it.
Was the cat's name Tinks?
Is this possibly suspicious?
You don't think it's true?
I mean,
sassy.
I just don't,
I just don't.
see a cat navigating its way from Montana to California to its home town.
No, without being eaten.
It's absolutely insane.
But also just there's no, like it wouldn't know how to do that.
But they do.
That's what doesn't, that's what we don't understand.
But for that many miles, for that long?
800 miles and two months.
All right.
Let's all do this.
Okay.
Kyle, you're the network executive here.
Oh boy.
We're each going to pitch Kyle, our version of Rainbow's Homeward
bound. The worst part about being a father is that you have to stay up all night no matter what.
No doubt. You told me your day started at 4 a.m. the other day. Most days. But the thing is for me,
the kids go to sleep at like 7.30 and then they start waking up throughout the night. If I have a
cup of coffee in the afternoon, I kind of hit the bed until like 1 o'clock. That's awful. That's why I'm
stoked on the mudwater thing that we got sent. Yeah. It's dude, I've totally replaced my afternoon
cup of coffee, which I had for years
around between 2 and 3 p.m.
2 mud water. No jitters, no
spike, no crash, clean energy.
You guys know I'm obsessed with mushrooms. This has
like Lions Main, Chaga,
Rashii,
cordyceps, all this great stuff.
Gives me that nice level energy
and I could still hit the pillow when the kids go down
at 839. Yep. Every single
ingredient is 100%
USDA certified organic, non-GMO,
gluten-free, zero
sugar, no sweeteners added.
It's a game changer.
No caffeine in the afternoon is a game changer.
I'm telling you.
For a limited time, our listeners get up to 43% off your entire order,
free shipping, and a free rechargeable frother when you use our exclusive link.
Head to mudwater.com slash wild and grab your starter kit.
That's up to 43% off your order at MUDWTR.com forward slash wild.
After you purchase, they ask you where you heard about them.
Please support our show and tell them we sent you.
Stay energized and refreshed all summer long with mudwater because life's too short for anything
less than natural delicious energy.
Dude, what's up?
I feel like I haven't seen you in months.
I know.
I was up in the mountains for a couple weeks filming.
Yeah.
But I'm excited to hang out tonight, drink some wine.
Dude, I got a couple of IPA, a variety pack.
I'm stoked.
Nice.
Yeah.
So what are we doing with prize picks tonight?
Well, Retepp's coming over.
We're going to hang out in the garage, drink some IPAs, drink some wine.
Here's what we got for our lineup tonight.
prize picks. I'm going, we're going, Wondale Robinson more than six receptions for the Giants.
Okay.
Jamar Chase more than 78.5 yards.
Okay.
Daniel Jones, less than 31.5 rushing yards.
Dude, I'm going Chase Brown more than 45 and a half rushing yards on Cincinnati, dude.
He's just, he's just so fast.
One good run, and he gets it.
That's right. Yeah, you can barely see him when the camera's following him.
So that's going to be our lineup.
up, you can win up to 100 times your money on prize picks with as little as four correct
picks. If you want to join in with me and Retep, sign up today and get $50 instantly. When you play
$5, you don't even need to win to receive the $50 bonus. It's guaranteed. It's the time of year
where wine starts tasting good. The weather's getting cold. You want to watch football.
Yeah. Download the app today and use the code wild to get $50.
instantly after you play your first $5 lineup.
Prize picks.
Run your game.
Yeah, just make it exciting.
Make sports exciting again, even if it's not your game.
Okay.
Okay, so how his journey went, how he got from Yellowstone National Park in one minute
or less back to his home.
Let's get me done first because it won't be as good as either of yours.
Okay, go ahead.
Well, so Rainbow has just a beautiful, beautiful cat, hopped on the highway stretch
right there outside of Yellowstone,
put up one of his thumbs, paws,
and just started hitchhiking.
Even if he didn't get picked up, eventually,
he figured there's a picture of rainbow.
Lost half his body weight.
There's, yeah.
So I can really relate.
No, just hopped himself on the bottom of a van or a truck
or one of those trucks that has hay bales on it,
got in there.
Dude, he definitely hopped on to something.
Hay baltruck I like.
I like hay baltrial.
That's a nice visual.
There's something there.
Yeah, that's how he must have gotten there.
eventually, you know, I don't know how the hell he knew where his hometown was and jumped off,
but he got there and, you know, found, found his hometown.
So here's my, go ahead.
No, no, please.
Here's my version of the story.
All right.
Let's hear it.
I love it.
It's one of those movies where you get the end at the beginning, right?
So it's like news press conference, the cat has returned home.
The happy couple is thrilled that Rainbow has returned home.
and then we go back in time and see what actually had.
Love that.
Which is that they got into a huge fight while they were camping because, you know, camping's hard.
Yeah.
You're cold.
You must fight with your spouse.
Yeah.
You're only eating lentils.
Especially you have a cat in a tent.
Yeah.
And, you know, everyone's smelly.
You haven't showered.
It's a mess.
Nobody brought pretty litter.
It's a disaster.
Dude, no pretty litter.
Just regular cat litter.
Are you kidding me?
She wanted to bring the cat.
He said, of course, we're not bringing our cat camping.
that's insane who would do that.
And then they brought the cat.
They brought the cat.
She already didn't want to go.
She already did not want to go camping.
Yeah.
They get into a huge fight.
The guy takes the cat into the woods and just fucking dumps the cat.
Like half a mile from the campsite.
Jesus.
This is a horrible person.
They go back home.
They make up and he's like, oh, my God.
I got to get the cat.
I've got to go back.
He goes back to Montana.
Shitload of fucking, what are those treats called?
Greenies.
He's got a bunch of greenies.
He's shaking the bag.
He goes back to the site where he dumped the cat,
finds the cat not too far from where he dumped it,
flies home,
brings it to a local shelter.
So he's like,
he's like, yo, here's $1,000.
Call me tomorrow, say you found the cat.
I literally actually think this is what happened.
So do I.
That's why I'm doing.
This is absolutely what happened.
What's your take?
All right, my take is they sneak the cat into Yellowstone.
You're definitely not supposed to have pets in Yellowstone.
No.
believe. I don't know. No way.
Not an outdoor cat who you just let
roam around or something. They sneak the cat into Yellowstone.
Cat gets out of the
gets out of the car or lodge.
They can't really go looking for it. Yeah, they're putting
out there out there going, Rainbow, where are you, buddy? Because they don't want to be
caught. Right. So they bail
after two days. Rainbow shows back
up at the lovely lodge where they're staying.
He's sitting around meowing and meowing.
Some random person from California
happens to grab the cat and be like, oh,
he's our new pet. Like, let's, you know, it's better than
him getting eaten by a wolf in Yellowstone.
Sure.
Turns out the new cat people live less than 12 miles from the,
from the old cat people where Rainbow likes to roam.
They get home.
They let Rainbow out their new best friend, and he just hops out a window and starts
making his way towards the street, gets scooped up by an animal shelter.
Another absolutely plausible thing that could have happened.
Dude, remember the cat that we befriended at the lodge?
Yes, I do.
In Kernville.
Yeah, he went right on the bed and slept with our friend with Needs.
Neil, right? Yeah, it was this awesome orange and white Tomcat just came up to me and
Retepe while we were drinking beers at five in the morning.
Nice.
And just wouldn't leave, just kind of wouldn't leave our side.
And then when we went to go into the hotel room, it just ran in and jumped in bed with
Neil who was already asleep.
Yeah.
And then Neil woke up in the morning.
He's like, what is this?
It was like literally an inch for his face.
Also the same size as Neil stretched out.
Yes, yes.
No joke.
But couldn't you have seen taking that cat home?
If you didn't have a cat at home and you're like, this cat is homeless.
Or in a place, say he was in a place he wasn't supposed to be, like, a Yellowstone National Park.
And you know he's not supposed to be there.
Right.
You'd be like, well, I'm not going to report him to the lodge because they're going to get him iced.
I'm going to throw him in the car and we have a new cat, I guess.
A hundred percent plausible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, he's getting eaten by a bear, a wolf.
I don't know how a house cat makes it out at downtown Yellowstone National Park.
Dude, I want to get in smoke.
I want to hear from from the listeners.
drop a comment because like I literally thought he hitchhiked back,
but you guys actually have plausible ideas.
If you have a plausible idea, drop it down on the comments because I'm going to read them all.
I mean, it's a crazy story.
It's crazy, dude.
800 miles?
There's been a few of those with dogs that I've seen where like...
I feel like a dog could do it.
Yeah, like a guy in L.A. lost his dog in Big Bear and the dog shows up at the house like a month later.
I feel like that could happen, but not a cat for some reason.
All right. I want to move on to a third news story that I found really interesting.
So when I was up in Hudson, Hudson Bay 10 days ago, whatever it was, I found out this stat.
And this is how I want to introduce this.
How far do you think the longest swim, not resting on ice, just swimming, a polar bear has ever done could be.
Without resting?
Without resting.
Oh, boy.
Kyle, you're going to need to look this up because I don't remember the exact number, but.
We're just going to go like miles.
80 miles.
80 miles?
All right, what's your guess, Peter?
I mean, there's a story here, so I'm going to say like 120 miles, because that sounds more outrageous, added 50%.
426 miles.
Get out of here.
So they had a colored bear that jumped into the ocean in collard.
Colored.
Because he said, he said colored.
Yeah, like colored greens.
Yeah.
Is that not the same word?
That's different a little bit, but it's okay.
And, yeah, so they're studying bear biology, and in Alaska, this colored bear, colored.
Clard bear, swam 426 miles.
That's crazy.
So it's interesting because we were at the lodge and we were having this debate about...
That's insane.
Did it float on a 26 miles?
Yeah, so apparently they do that.
Apparently, they sleep floating on their back.
A Tesla can't even get that far.
That's insane.
Yeah, so apparently they'll swim for a while.
They don't overheat because they're in the cold water and polar bears are notorious for overheating.
And when they're tired, they'll just roll over and take a little snooze.
That's kind of sweet.
It's badass.
But I, you know, I remember here.
hearing this, we were up at this lodge, and I remember hearing this, and I was like, the farthest of polar bears ever swums, maybe six miles.
Like, you know, maybe 20, like not hundreds.
Yeah.
And it sparked this whole debate.
The three Rangers at the lodge were like, the media is bullshit.
Polar bears are not going to die or go extinct when the ice caps continue to recede because they're so adaptable and they're such incredible swimmers, right?
They're going to adapt to hunting belugas and this, that, and the other thing.
That was their argument.
You know, and we're having like a healthy debate about it.
Right.
But the reason I bring this up is in September.
as in now of this year,
a polar bear
was spotted in Iceland.
Wow.
Kyle,
I guess I know that polar bears
aren't in Iceland.
Right.
But even in the northern fjord?
Not on the island,
but they're in Greenland.
But Kyle, look up.
What is the nearest landmass
from Iceland?
It's got to be Greenland.
Yeah, but what's that distance?
Is this a new record?
That's what I'm trying to understand.
It's probably not 426 miles.
But still,
745 miles.
Yeah, 700 plus mile.
Is that the nearest or is...
Oh, maybe that's the flight.
That's like the flight.
How do you...
Yeah, so it is Greenland, right?
Because they're definitely not in the Faroe Islands.
So it's got to be Greenland.
So he came from Greenland.
Oh, dude.
I just saw the rest of the headlining
got really bombed.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
But anyway, Kyle just mentioned here
that this one actually floated on ice.
Again, how do they know that?
This is what I'm saying.
This is where all stories come from.
I'm telling you, half of the shit is just, they're like, hey, there's a polar bear here.
What happened?
And someone's like, yeah, probably floated on ice.
And then they just go, okay, that guy said it floated on ice.
Nobody fucking filmed it with a drone.
Listen, it's the exact same thing I was talking about with the James Webb Telescope stuff earlier.
The story, the game of telephone, it comes down and down and down, just a fact now.
So this is kind of interesting.
What happened to the bear, there was a bear that did the same thing on the ice float in 2016, ice float.
not float, ice flow in 2016.
So because this has happened several times throughout history, and I want to get back to why
that's significant, Iceland protected polar bears.
Regardless, this polar bear was shot because everybody panicked and didn't know what to do.
So the polar bear went away.
But what's interesting is what you're seeing, think about this.
This happened in 2016.
Polar bear lifespan 35 years.
Can you fact check me on that?
It might be longer.
The last one happened in 2016, okay?
20 to 30 years.
Okay.
Obviously, that's neither 20 nor 30 years ago.
Right.
It's eight.
Thank you.
Polar bear floated over there eight years ago.
Okay.
Let's say that was a female.
Okay.
Now, eight years later, a male floats over on a nice flow.
Had this been pre-human settlement, pre-development, that is the start of a colony of polar bears in a completely new geographical region.
Isn't that the theory of how all the shit got to Madagascar?
100%.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, a lot of it was, uh,
because Madagascar was attached to Africa and then it branched off and then it changed,
but a lot of things swam over.
But what's crazy is if you think had Icelandic people not interfered or, you know,
not done anything at all?
Yeah.
I'm not, I don't know if it was male and female and all that, but you're looking at colonization
of new habitat trying to take place.
Had that been a male and female, they would have had no choice but to reproduce and they would
have, you know, assuming they could find resources and everything else, all of a sudden
you would have had an entirely new population of polar bear on a place that historically hasn't had
him. That's crazy. They said that they deemed it was too risky and expensive to try and relocate it.
Which one do you think it was? That it was risky or just the expense? Definitely expense.
It's not risky. I mean, literally while I was in Hudson, they were doing the work. They just fly around and dart them out of a helicopter.
And you don't have to. Like, you could just drive up to it and dart it. It's not that risky. It's easy to tranquil.
as a polar bear. It doesn't run away from you.
What was your verdict on the,
on the, you know, the debate
you guys were having on whether or not
polar bears would survive?
Well, I didn't really, I didn't really have
a educated
standpoint going into it. I, these guys
were talking in this manner in which they
were saying how like, the polar bears will
survive. Like, we've seen it, we know how adaptable
they are. And I've said this on this podcast
and everything a million times over.
The people that I always tend
to believe are the observational
scientists, right? People that spend all day with it. These guys spend like 250 days a year on the
ground with polar bears looking at how they behave. So it was really interesting to get a
perspective from three people, three different guides, who were not scientists. They just
spend tons of time around polar bears. And they're going, you don't understand. When it's hot,
they get in the water. When it's cold, they know how to get warm. Yeah. When there's no food,
they hunt something else. Like these things know how to figure it out. And so they're not
published scientists going,
the polar bears are all going to die when the ice melts.
These are just people that sit there watching polar bears
200-something days a year and go,
polar bears are much smarter and more adaptable
than we're giving them credit for.
They're just going to hang out in the water more
because the water, when global warming
even gets to like the next 200 years,
the water is still going to be cold up there.
It's just not going to be like, it's not going to be like 80 degrees.
They're still going to hop in there.
It's going to be like 50 degrees or 45 degrees.
Yeah.
And I think the argument.
Am I wrong? I don't know. I just like how he said it as a fact, but you have no idea.
The temperature, yeah. But what I liked, what I found interesting is speaking to these people who, like I said, they're not, they don't have scientific backgrounds, but they're educated in observing polar bear behavior and hearing their standpoint on it, which was not doom and gloom.
Yeah.
Because everything you read is the ice caps are melting, the polar bears are going to go extinct, right?
Sure. And I went into that trip. One of the reasons I went on that trip is I'm like, if I don't do this,
this, I might never get a chance to see polar bears in the wild in my lifetime because they're
going extinct. Every headline says it. And then you get there and it was literally, I told you guys,
this was 84 degrees when I landed. It was boiling hot. We're in shorts and T-shirts. And the polar bears,
don't get me wrong. They didn't look stoked, but they were fine. You know what I mean? Like, they were
doing their thing. They were being polar bears. And so it was just really interesting. I didn't go
with them and be like, you're wrong. The science says this because I don't have that, I don't have that
information to argue one way or another. I just kept saying like, well, I've heard this and, you know,
what do you think about this?
And one of the things that I brought up
that they weren't maybe as aware of
is I was like, well, polar bears are a new species, right?
They're only 150 or so thousand years old.
They only branched off from grizzly bears
around 150,000 years ago.
New species are adaptable
because they're still trying to find their place in this world.
150,000 years sounds very old to us.
But a species that's been around for only 150,000 years
is still trying to find its niche
and its place in this world,
unlike, say, a crocodile.
Crocodiles have been around 6 million,
what is it, 60 million years or whatever?
The ultimate hunters.
They know their place.
Yeah.
I sit in the swamp, I eat the thing.
That's it.
I don't, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't fuck around.
I don't, I'm not going over there.
I'm not going somewhere cold.
I sit in the hot swamp.
I eat the thing.
That's crocodiles.
They figured it out.
Polar bears are like, well,
we were these brown guys.
Now we're these white guys.
Our feet are bigger for walking on ice.
We're going up here.
Well, now we're starting to come back down
because now we're seeing polar bears
are moving further south.
You know what I mean?
They're still kind of like figuring it out.
We're going to Iceland for a summer vacate.
We're swimming 400 miles.
Like they're still trying to like figure out their exact niche.
And that could be argued that that's just how they are, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But my point is I look at it like this species is pretty young.
They're still adapting to where they fit.
And sometimes they won't, a species won't make it.
And sometimes they will adapt and change.
But it's like they haven't just plonked in a, in a niche that they're going to be in forever.
Right.
Is what I felt like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
Well, they've already evolved from being just black bear or brown bears into or grizzly bears into these polar bears.
I mean, you know, I've got an idea.
Yep.
Want to play a game?
Always.
Yes.
Let's just do a generic jingle since we've never played this game before.
All right.
Well, that was you?
Kyle.
I thought that was a jingle.
Kyle Hose.
Wait, hold on.
Put those together.
We just, that was a great jingle.
Ah!
Digi digger digoo and dig dig dig biga dig do.
Wait, now you got to say the name of the game.
based on their native language.
Oh, sure.
One more time.
You do the thing, you do the thing, and you do the thing.
Go.
Digga-diboo, big a dig-dick, dig-dick-dick-deg-bos.
Based on their native language.
That's amazing.
That was so good.
All right, this is a game.
I'm going to give you guys a word.
This word is going to be an animal, a very common animal,
in a different language, and their native language where they're from.
Language.
Language.
Nope, you said language, so we're going with that.
Did he definitely said language?
And that should be the name of the game.
Yep.
And yeah, you guys are just going to guess, what's the animal?
Binga dinga ding ding ding.
It's not in his head.
Yeah, it is.
Chang.
I think I know it.
I also think I know it.
So you better go first.
Chang means little or nothing.
Does it?
I'm going to say it's a Chinese panda.
I drank a beer called Chang when I was in Thailand.
That's where I was going to believe it's a lion.
Nope.
I'm going to say it as an elephant on the beer.
Ah, you're right.
Fuck.
Only the same exact reason.
I remember the beer.
I drank a million of them in Thailand.
I gotta give you way more props
on figuring that out.
Because that's crazy
that you even remember
what was on the beer.
I drank a lot of them.
I also had a Chang tank top
at one point.
Was it blue?
Mine was red.
Oh, okay.
And it was ill fitting.
Yeah, very like,
mine was like a crop top.
Yeah.
I think I'm the same one.
We all, every tourist
that goes to Thailand
buys the Chang.
It's $4.
and it's sold everywhere.
Oh, boy.
All right.
Next one up.
Mamba.
I'm just going to go obvious
and say that it's a snake
in Afrikaans.
I mean,
definitely a snake,
the black,
you know,
the Mamba,
the Mamba.
We go to the Mamba
in Afrikaans.
I mean,
it's the only thing that makes sense.
So I think three for snake.
What is it?
What is it?
According to Chad GPT.
It's Swahili for crocodile.
Oh, whoa.
Swahili.
I mean, I don't speak Swahili, but it sounds like shenanigans.
Why would there be black and green mambas and then there's snakes?
Where is Swahili the language from?
Southern Africa.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's correct.
It is a crocodile.
Wow.
Interesting.
You learn something.
That's confusing.
Yeah.
All right.
So it's the black crocodile when you're talking about the black mamba.
Apparently, that'll throw you for a loop.
What's next?
Next up, the Yonga.
Younga.
I'm going to go first.
I'm going to say the Yonga is Sri Lankan for a species of monkey.
Good one.
Tiger.
What language?
Language of orange.
And shouldn't please.
Yunga is Tagalog for tiger.
What is a Philippine tiger?
Kyle, who is part Filipino left.
Filipino tiger.
Listen, Yunga sounds definitely like something from Eastern Asia,
and it would be a sheep from, you know, in Chinese.
Okay.
Chinese sheep.
This is kangaroo in Aboriginal.
Oh, my God.
That does not sound Aboriginal to me.
It does to me.
Yunga.
Does it?
Younga.
Yeah.
Yunga.
All right.
I could definitely see that like Aboriginal.
Kangaroo.
Young.
If you say it quick, like young.
Younga.
All right. One point for four so far.
Nobody's getting any other points.
All right. Next up.
What is that last word?
I know.
That's up to Kyle to pronounce it.
The next one is mono.
Mano.
Mano.
There's an accent mark over that.
Oh, right?
Yeah.
Mano.
There is.
This is a monkey in Tagalog.
He's just sticking time.
I think that is some kind of Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese for a toucan.
I'm going also monkey but in Punjabi.
Damn it.
Fuck off. I hate that noise.
It's so aggravating. It's really annoying.
This is shark in Hawaiian.
Oh, that so makes sense, dude.
That's a total Hawaiian word.
Mono?
Yeah, like Mahalo.
Yeah, true that.
Okay.
Yeah.
No.
All right.
Not doing too hot, boys.
Nope.
Listen, you know, the fun of the game is that the listeners get to learn.
Not that we know.
That's for sure.
Next up.
You may have heard this one.
Conejo.
Yeah.
I know this.
So you guys go first.
Do you?
Yeah.
Shit.
You go.
This definitely sounds like I want to say, let me say like Portuguese.
And we'll say, uh, well, I mean, there was some hippos down there.
Uh, kind of.
He's picking the one animal that's not from that part of the world.
Uh, I don't know any and a toucan from.
I said that the last round.
Was it only can from South, South America?
Uh,
Maybe he's correct.
All right.
Conejo is definitely a Spanish word, right?
My said Portuguese is similar to Spanish.
Congrejo is a crab.
Conejo is a squid.
Conejo is Spanish for rabbit.
Damn it.
Yes.
I do that.
Well, because I have a book of animals in Spanish and English that we read to our kid.
Nice.
But also there's a very popular tequila that I think
It's called like 40 Konejos or something.
40 rabbits?
Yeah.
That's a great.
That's a great name.
40 rabbits.
Really?
Why?
I just like it.
It's fun.
400 konejos.
I like any time you put a number in something that doesn't make sense together.
And I feel like alcohols do that a lot.
That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
I get it.
I mean like it's weird.
That's why weird things work because there's weird people like you, but it's still insane.
I'll buy it just for that reason.
400 rabbits.
Yeah.
Good to know.
One to one.
One to one.
We got two more.
All right, fuck off.
Next up.
We don't need to tout the scores anymore.
Okay.
Bjorn.
Bjorn.
She's definitely a musician from Sweden.
Tall, Scandinavian man.
So this is Nordic.
Lovely blonde hair.
This is Nordic for kitty cat.
Meow.
Yeah, it's definitely something.
Yeah, Bjorn.
It's like from Norway.
Bear.
I'm going to go Norwegian for bear.
Oh, that's smart.
I'm going to say Wolf, Norwegian.
Kitty cat.
Forest.
Bear, Norwegian.
Should I.
Can I tell you why I guess that?
I got the Norwegian part.
Can I tell you why I guess that?
I get half a point.
Because it's a relatively common, like, Norwegian name.
And I was like, they're not going to name it after a kid.
I was literally not a wolf.
But I could have.
That was the second best.
No, no.
But Bjorn, like, I was like, that's what her personality might be mimicking.
That's exactly, though, the reason that I said it.
Well, you're thinking of Bjork.
Yeah, I am.
I wonder what Bjork.
Who the fuck is Bjorn?
Nobody.
Bjorn?
Shit!
It's total Bjorn.
All right.
I got two points.
Can you look up what Bjork means?
I need to get this next one.
I have zero points.
I'm leaving after this.
Oh, boy.
All right.
Next up.
Go ahead.
Nail it.
You better get this right.
Da Zhong Mao.
Wow.
That might be right.
I think he said it right.
Da Zhong Mao.
Da Zhong Mao.
All right.
Well, so this is...
Definitely Spanish.
Well, for the first time, accurately, this is Chinese, and this will be a panda bear.
I like that guess.
I mean
Can we all do the same guess?
No, no, I'm going to go for another one.
I'm going to go Vietnamese
because it sounds to me quite like Chinese.
Yeah, okay.
For, sorry, you know what,
I'm not going to say that because Peter's a racist.
It's Mandarin.
I don't know why, but okay.
It's Mandarin for a fox.
I was also going to go Fox.
Sorry.
Why?
All right, I'll go, I will go Vietnamese
for a Sala.
Wow.
That's nice.
Peter.
You got it.
Chinese Panda bear.
Chinese for Panda.
Mandarin.
Mandarin. Da Zhang Mao.
Da Zhong Mao.
There you go.
Da Jung Mao.
I think I got it.
I think I nailed that pronunciation.
Do it again.
I think it was pretty good.
Da Zhong Mao.
Sounds pretty good.
Good cadence, too.
You said at the right speed.
I think that's important with other languages.
The Mandarin.
It is Mandarin.
Mandarin for Panda Bear.
I like this game.
I'm never going to remember a single one of them.
No, Bjorn, I'll remember.
I'll never forget, Bjorn is bear.
Fair enough.
What's the country of origin of that?
Is it Norway?
Norway.
Can we look up what Bjork means?
What does Bjork mean?
B-J-O-R-K with the Umwatz over the O.
Bjorke.
It's a Swedish surname meaning birch.
Birch!
Okay.
I thought it might be kitty cat.
If you had to pick between naming your son,
Birch or bear, it's a pretty obvious choice.
I would pick Birch, dude.
Would you?
Birch like Bert.
Yeah, it's a sweet name.
Bert.
What's up, Birch?
Birch is actually a cool name.
Is it too late to change?
No, I think he could do it.
Especially for a female.
Well, this has been fun.
Yeah.
I've enjoyed it.
Good seeing you guys.
Forrest, good luck in India.
Yes.
Don't get eaten by a tiger.
I'm excited to see all the videos you send to the group chat.
I can't wait.
I can't wait to talk about it when we get back.
I have no concept of it going into it.
I'm excited about what you're going to send to the group chat even.
Indeed.
No, he's just going to post it straight to tick to.
No, no.
We get all the fucking unique stuff.
No problems here. Good night.
Play that song. Here we go.
Do do do do do do.
I am not defined by my credit.
Enlightenment comes with the realization that I cannot control the universe or my finances.
Hey, your big financial friend, Experian, can help.
You can get your FICO score and boost it instantly all for free.
Free? I mean, now I am at peace.
Get the Experian app now.
Experian.
Results will vary. Not all payments or boost eligible. Some may not see improved scores or approval odds. Not all enters credit information impacted by Experian Boost. See AppStra for details. Good pod.
