Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Shark Attack in Australia, National Park Closures & A Bird Thought Extinct Spotted?

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

This week we review footage of an Australian woman getting attacked by a tiger shark, USA National Park cuts, and a possible Ivory Billed Woodpecker spotted? Enjoy! [TWT 174]Underdog: Sign up and deposit for Underdog HERE with promo code WILD to get up to $1,000 in bonus cash and a free pick: https://underdogfantasy.com/ or download the appSmalls Cat food: For a limited time only, get 35% off plus an additional 50% off your first order when you head to https://www.smalls.com and use code WILD.Sundays for Dogs: Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://sundaysfordogs.com/wild or use code WILD at checkout.Factor: Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box at http://factormeals.com/wild50off and use code WILD50OFF.Magic Mind: Take advantage of this launch and get 25% off Magic Mind Performance Gummies with code WILD25 or go to https://magicmind.com/wildgmGet More Wild Times Podcast Episodes:https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wildtimespod/subscribehttps://www.patreon.com/wildtimespodMore Wild Times:Instagram: http://instagram.com/wildtimespodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wildtimespodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/wildtimespod/X: https://x.com/wildtimespodDiscord: https://discord.gg/ytzKBbC9DbWebsite: https://wildtimes.club/Merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merchBattle Royale Card Game: https://wildtimes.club/brOur Favorite Products:https://www.amazon.com/shop/thewildtimespodcastMusic/Jingles by: www.soundcloud.com/mimmkeyThis video may contain paid promotion.#ad #sponsored #forrestgalante #extinctoralive #podcast

Pool days call for cookouts and lots of laundry. This Memorial Day at Lowe's, save $80 on a charbroil performance series 4-burner gas grill. Now just $199. Plus, get up to 45% off select major appliances to keep dishes, clothes, and food fresh. Having fun in the sun is easy with us in your corner. Our best lineup is here at Lowe's. VALUPS-F.27. While supplies last, selection varies by location.

See Associate at Lowe's.com for details. Introducing the new best skin ever Ultra Slim Precision from Sephora Collection It's full coverage with a matte finish And perfect for any look Whether you're building it up for a full glam moment Or targeting correction for a more natural vibe

At only $12, it's great for affordable touch-ups on the go Get this new must-have concealer at Sephora Or at Sephora.com today Oh yeah, yeah, yeah! Nice. Dude, that with the porn music, that really sells it. Here we go, Wild Times. We're in studio podcast day.

I'm here. I'm Forrest. Patrick's there. He's Patrick. Peter's on the end. Drinking a light strike, hanging out. I like that head.

What do you call that? What do you call that head accoutremal? It's funny because I had to search it extensively on Amazon. And it's called a headband, evidently. Headband? That's not a headband. It's not a head band. It's a band as a band.

A band. A band. band. All I can say is that when I searched headband on Amazon, it was found, whereas when I searched handkerchief, it was not found. Did you try it? Did you try do rag? No. It's almost a bandana. Yeah. Yeah, bandana. I tried that one too eventually and that was the funny one. He's right. Kyle's, you've been struggling to find words for two weeks now. It's true. Is it Pross? You got a brain injury when you bonged your head in the pool? I wouldn't doubt it. Okay. It's because he's in a relationship and the fat starts to build up around your brain again. Everywhere. Not just your brain.

Your ankles get fat. Everything gets fat. It's crazy. It's like you're pregnant. Well, who are you? Who am I? Yeah. Forrest, the host of the podcast. Okay. Sorry, did I miss that? It doesn't. Okay. It's okay. Wait a minute. There's a piece of Kyle, do the jingle. Let's just get right into it. There's something you were so excited to tell me about this. All right, Kyle was very, so much so that when I walked in the studio this morning before you guys got here, he accosted me with this information. Okay. He ran at me and started yelling in my face. Have you seen the tiger shark footage? Like that.

It was like a little, like your child. Very scary. I'm not sure why he was so revved up. Kyle, what is this footage and why did you want me to look at it so badly? Well, apparently in April, there was two spearfisher ladies that were attacked by a tiger shark. Oh, okay. Yeah, this video of it. All right.

So we just had, you had just gotten back from a tiger shark attack in the Bahamas. We talked about it on a bonus pod, but to give us a quick. rundown. Yeah, if you want to see a few behind-the-scenes sneak peeks, check out the bonus pod. But we were there filming a shark week, and we actually managed to get tiger sharks to the surface in Florida, which is pretty unusual. And not one, but two. And they went into competition with each other and attacked my cameraman, JQ. Yep. No, no sustainable, he didn't sustain any gnarly injuries, but it is some insane footage. Well, he did brown his underwear and yellow hair. Yeah. His wetsuit is ruined. Yeah. Do you wear underwear under a wetsuit? No, that's,

People do, and they're idiots. Don't do that. It's so uncomfortable. If you've ever put on a wetsuit, skin tie, just bunches all your underwear up, don't do that. Okay.

Noted yucco. All right, I want to see, I want to see what Jasmine, Warnerford, and Sam Anderson went through while spearfishing

near Calbari on April 21st. And West Australia. Yep. It's always West Australia. It's definitely somewhere else. There's a tiger shark. All right. Yeah,

so it's see, it's body language. It's definitely in feeding mode. So she, what is it? She got a fish on her spear and it came in? I think it just went.

So, okay, sorry, start over. Start over. This is chaos. Why are you so excited for me to see this? Does, is there a fish dragging there? There is. Okay, so, all right, let me explain. Stand by for one second.

So, pause for a sec. So when you're spear fishing, if you're not an idiot and the boat's nowhere near, especially like on a shore dive like this, you don't, if you shoot a fish, you need to store that fish, right? But if you're doing a shore dive and there's no boat or there's no way to offload your fish, the best thing, you can do is hang the fish off of your float. So a lot of times when you're spearfishing, you can either use a reel. So the spear gun has an actual reel full line, or you can use

what's called a float line, which this lady has, to a float in the back. That acts as a boat marker so people don't run you over, and it's a good place to clip your fish onto. If you're a moron like me, you usually just shoot the fish and clip them onto your belt. And you're like, that's fine. I'll deal with it if something shows up. If you're smart, like these gals, you clip the fish to your float. So these guys are spearfishing. By the way, when you're spear fishing and you shoot a spear gun, it puts out a noise that reverberates through the water and acts like a shark attract and it's crazy. Wow. Yeah. And then she's obviously shot a fish and is hanging that fish from her float off the back of her float line. Now, a tiger shark has probably

heard the sound, heard the commotion, and smelled that dead fish hanging from that float. Yep. And what I'm seeing here is a tiger shark that comes in in full on attack body language. Arches, back is arched, pectoral fins are locked. He's going for it. So, chaos, let's take a look here. If you're just listening, this is worth Oh, the chaos is the shark's got her and it's dragging her right? Well, it's got the float, right?

It's got the float and it's pulling her backwards. Because the floats tethered to her. Yeah, exactly. To her gun, she probably could have let go, but don't let go of your gun because that creates, then you have no defense. So you can see? Yeah, the shark kind of came in for a bite there for a minute.

This is terrifying. Wait, so does it actually grab her? I'm trying to understand. There's the float here. There's the float. There's the fish hanging below it. It grabbed the float and it dragged her and her partner. She was tethered to it.

Yeah. And her partner was trying to hold her, but it kept just pulling her under. But then she grabbed her knife and cut the float line smartly. Is that what it said? Yeah. Oh, there you go. Well, good.

I mean, staying calm, you know, and being tactical is incredibly difficult. But it's what you have to do if you're going to survive. Now, hypothetically, if she had just gone, oh, she had the float, the float line was tied around her waist.

So it literally was tethered to her. which it's not supposed to be, by the way. What is it? I'm like a little hook normally on the wet season? It's on the spear gun. Oh, I see. Because if you shoot the fish and the fish rips the gun out, your hand, you need to be able to fight it on the line to the float.

Okay. But obviously, and this happens a lot, right? You're spearfishing, you're diving, you're going up and down. So it's very easy for a loop to form in that line and wrap around your body, your neck, anything. Yikes. So I like this part. So she was being dragged and got pulled down, you know, under the water and was struggling.

Yeah. Because she was underwater. for a long time. Cut the float line, came up. And then they were like, okay, cool. And then they continued spearfishing. Went back to diving. Caught two more fish for dinner. I like that. Well, she, she indicates, big respect for that. She says that the shark wasn't actually being aggressive towards them. So it was just like, would you do the same thing as them? You'd be like, oh, okay. Like, yeah, they're fine. I mean, you know, and that's why going back to Patrick's point a second ago about staying calm and keeping a cool head is so important. Because if they had started like flailing around and screaming and

panicking, the shark probably would have come back around and been like, well, this is the prey. And you can see the one friend comes over quick, but then it's all over in a few seconds. So I feel like they handled it very, very well. Is that a big shark forest? Yeah, that's a nice-sized tiger shark. That's definitely a full-grown tiger dumpsters of the sea, right? Tigers will eat anything they can fit their mouths around. So, yeah, they're dangerous.

Aggressiveness on the scale of, you know, 10 being the very most aggressive shark, which maybe you can name that one, too. and then one being the least. What's a tiger? Oh, like a nine. And what's the most aggressive? Probably either a bull shark or a great white shark. Okay.

Yeah. Wow. But here's a question that I know the answer to scientifically. Okay. What's the sneakiest shark? The sneakiest? You know the scientific answer? The sneak shark?

Interesting. I've seen how sneaky they are. Interesting. Is it the lemon shark? Yeah. What did you see? Just, man, they're just like, whenever you're chumming and like, you know,

the reef sharks come in. first, a little black tips, a little five footers, whatever. And then like a couple lemon sharks come in and they just, you can tell, they're just like, hey, I'm a reef shark. And they think that you don't know. Yeah. And the way that they look at you. Yeah.

They're just sneaky. Very side eye either. It's like a topper. Yeah. That's what bit you, right? Yeah. Twice. God, they're sneaky.

They suck. Let's see what Google AI thinks. Ask it, why are lemon sharks so sneaky? This is going to be good. Let's see what it thinks. They're like, I have no idea what you're talking about. about. Let's see. Now.

Can you zoom in? What does it say? They refuse to. Camouflaging abilities. Blend in with their sandy environment. Yeah, that's why humans are better than AI. That's right. Because we can be funny. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, we can enjoy our fucking lives. Ha. Ha. Ha. We're still there. It's almost the end of May. I consider June the beginning of summer. Yeah. Except in California, where we get May, Gray, and June gloom. Well, I think it's June 21st.

Like the mid of winter here. I have it's, June, July, August. I mean, that's summer. That's summer. Anyone to have any non-work-related vacations? Summer trips? I have like a pseudo one. What is it?

Well, first of all, on Saturday this week, we have a fun plan. We're going to go up to... So, first crossing is a spot at the San Denez River where they've had the gate down for four years, right? And they used to be open because you could drive your car or truck through this river, through the Sanchez River and go four miles up a dirt road to this unbelievable swimming hole area in Santa Barbara, but it's been close for four years for no known reason. I think just because the county kind of afford to maintain it or whatever. Okay.

Okay. But my son is finally old enough and good enough at riding his bike that on Saturday, because it's too far for him to hike four miles, and it's going to be June gloom cold on the coast, but boiling hot in the valley, we're going to take his bike. I'm going to take my electric skateboard and Jess's going to bring her bike with the baby. We're going to make it up to the big watering hole, swimming fit a little day. That'll be a nice day. How big is the swimming hole?

like five times the size of the studio. It's big. Okay. Yeah, it's like a big crystal clear loaded with fish, turtles, frogs, all kinds of stuff. That's going to be amazing. The kids love it.

You know, it's great. And we'll take a picnic. We'll go four miles up the road. I haven't been there in literally four years. So I'm excited to see what it looks like. I feel bad because I keep taking my kid to this. It's a semi-famous spot in Simi Valley out by where I live called Corriganville, where there was a lot of old murders.

Well, I mean, I'm sure there's murders there. was a lot of, it was like a movie set back in the day. Yeah. So what do you do? It's a hike and it's like mountainous and then they have like kind of a area with a big pavilion and all these things. And it's really cool though. There's signposts that explain what each area was.

There's about 10 or 13 of these signposts. So I take them out there and I read them to them and we have a good time. But I've been feeling real bad lately because whenever I take them out there, there's this little creek that runs through there. And I'm always like, you know, trying to teach him. things about what lives outside and stuff. And I'm like, so what lives in the creek? And he knows like turtles and frogs.

And then I asked him to make the sounds and this and that. And yet there's never been a turtle or a frog scene. And so now I'm like just desperately trying to figure out where like around me I can go or he can actually like find invite yourself to Forest lovely day. Can you ride a bicycle? I want to invite myself right in. Speaking of it, so Corriganville, it's like an old movie set that is abandoned. Yeah.

ever tell you guys about when I got very close to taking a big financial risk and doing a haunted Halloween attraction? No, but that's awesome and hilarious. This should have done it. Well, I'll tell you what to tell you. So there was a place called Paramount Ranch, which is like 30 minutes from the heart of L.A. Maybe 45. Okay. Owned by Paramount Studios or not sure. Probably somehow tied. Yeah. No, it's definitely not. It wasn't. still owned by the studio. Okay. But it was this massive Western set.

So it was like the set of like Deadwood. Yeah. So there was a saloon. There was a jail. Awesome. Really cool filming location. I'd film there a few times. And when you like light it up at night, it's fucking awesome.

Yeah. You have lanterns and all the buildings. Yeah. So me and this, a movie producer who makes a lot of horror, like made a lot of horror movies, we were talking. We were like, we should do like a really,

uh, uh, uh, like immersive, scary experience for Halloween. Oh, wow. Okay.

Get a bunch of actors and, and the actors never break. Yep. You know, and we do like an old Western horror thing. Oh, dude, that sounds sweet.

And so we scripted out this whole plan. Yeah. Of what, what makes it scary. At this place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We, we hung out out there. We were talking to the people that owned it. And they were essentially down for it. It was going to be a big endeavor, right? We were going to have to hire like over 100 actors, get tons of insurance.

So it was like we were really into the creative. We had this really cool idea. You needed an investor. We did need an investor, but we had some potential people. And then the place burned to the ground. Oh, no way. Got completely wiped up. So you were actually going to go for it, you think?

It was like we were flirting with it. Yeah. Like we would have each had to put up a good amount of money. I think it would have made it back. I think it would have made it back. Western horror, I feel like, is not something you can really get. Like, they have Halloween whore nights and some other very commercialized stuff around here. But like a Western-themed horror, I feel like would be a big draw.

Yeah, the idea is like you're in this Western town and you're just experiencing the Western town. Yeah. You're walking around. There's people in the Saloon and there's gunfights happening. Yep. People are getting taken to jail. And then all hell breaks loose. Man, I want this.

When all hellbergs lose. The story was basically that there were people that had been banished, that people were getting sick with a mysterious disease. Oh, fun. And they were getting banished out into the woods. I'm told to leave. Yep. And this disease, it wasn't zombie-ish, but it was like rage, rabies adjacent. Very like Last of Us.

Yeah. Yeah. It was pre-last of us. Maybe the game was already out. But how did it burn down? Do you know? there was a big fire it wasn't the most recent wildfire

a wildfire burned the whole fucking thing down did they rebuild it it was the woolsy fire no damn it was the wolves that would be so cool by the way Pat I would love to go to that legit yeah

that whole event sounds awesome like I'm not even into that stuff but I would be into that because it's like a natural surrounding where you're not fabricating the setting right you know what I mean right yeah it would have been really cool

I did something kind of similar I did something kind of similar I didn't say kind of similar in New York where you do this interactive thing on Broadway and they lock you in it. It's like a six-story building. See if you can find the name of it. That's terrifying. It's pretty gnarly and each floor of the building has its own sort of story unfolding. And so you walk around and it's interactive. People touch you. They push you into things. No, it's not a little shop of horrors. I'm trying to remember what it was called. I could text my friend who I went with. Six floors though inside of a building.

Dude, it was crazy. But so they lock you in and the show is. like an hour and a half. But for an hour and a half, it's fully interactive and anything you want to do, you can do. So, like, I went into this room and poured myself a glass of whiskey and started opening a book and reading the book. And the book was, like, written by a madman, you know, it was like written in blood. And this is just a random book off a shelf with like thousands of books. Wow. And tons of actors. And the way it was set up, man, I got to remember the name of it. The way it was set up was, everything was interactive so you could do anything, anything you like, but there was a whole story unfolding.

And if you happen to go to all the right places and follow the story or follow a character, you could kind of understand the story. It's like a video game almost. So you're getting like bits and pieces and trying to piece it together. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Did you figure it out at all? Not at all.

So I've very, very rarely smoked a lot of pot in my life. But I was with my friend Kristen. You know Kristen KF. And she was living there. And she's like, just trust me. Like you have to smoke and do this. And it was so scary. I was so terrified.

I didn't know what was going on. So confusing. And then so we go in together, her and I, and then we literally get in the elevator to go like up to the fourth floor. We're like, we'll start on the fourth floor. And we get to the first floor and this guy just shoves Kristen out and slams the door.

So I lose her. Oh, and you're all in masks. They put you in like faceless Phantom and the opera masks. Dude. And so I lost her immediately and never saw her until three hours later. Your thoughts on doing this like stone

when you never smoke weed? Terrify. It sounds like, a bad experience. It feels like it'd be a good experience if you had access to like a couple drinks. Or a partner. Like you pushed your person away from your partner. Immediately. Immediately. And then I was just alone and then there's, yeah, people like jump out. But it's not like a scare thing, like a haunted house. People don't jump out and scare you. It's just like someone will go running down a hole with a knife chasing someone. And you're like trying to figure out what's

like you're like, why do I follow them or do I go this way or? Yeah. It's crazy. It's cool. It was. It was cool. I'll ask for the name. I'll see if we can find it later in the show, but I can't remember what it's called. Okay, so you said you're gonna, your, your big summer vacation is going to be a four mile skateboard ride. Well, no, that's just what I'm doing this week. I'm going to Costa Rica as well. Oh, nice. Yeah. What's yours? You got something going on? I have nothing planned. We're going to do something. I haven't planned it yet. But I just real quick, you mentioned you're going to have a picnic? Yeah. That's a plan. Pack a backpack. You want to know about the food? No, no, no. Yeah. Let's, let's do a quick game.

Okay. All right. You know what they say Saturday is for the boys. Well, Sunday is for dogs. For the dogs. It's for the dogs. I love my dog. I try and take him out every weekend, go for a hike with him. He's the best little guy, Hoover, and I want the best for him. That's why I literally give him Sundays for Dogs dog food.

It's the best there is. It gives him noticeable health improvements. His coat is softer. He loves the taste of it. And one of the best things about living in a small house like I do is having giant tubes and cans of dog food, there's nowhere to store it. Sundays for the dogs comes in a little bag. It's easy to store on your shelf.

Dog loves it. I love it. Makes him healthy. Keeps him outdoors. Hey, my dog loves it too. Just started him on it. Look, we're all animal people. That's why we do this show.

And it helps us and it helps your dog. Sundays for dogs is the best food. Your dog's going to love it. There's no downside to it. 14-day money-back guarantee if your dog doesn't love it. So please just give it a try. If you're wondering, what does wildlife biologist Forrest Galante feed his dog?

You could get 40% off your first order of Sundays. to Sundays for Dogs.com slash wild or use code wild at checkout. So, dude, I told you guys how I woke up in my dog peed right at my feet. Yeah. Well, shortly after that, a couple weeks ago, my cat puked right at my feet and he had been puking all over the house. Yucked. So obviously, I'm like, got to do something about this.

And we switched his food over. Okay. To this brand called Smalls. That's the one I told you about. Yep. And then what did you do? Well, no. Hit him up.

Sorry. No, but did it work? Is he still throwing up? No. It worked. Oh, good. Think about it. Where did cats descend from for us?

Giant predatory felines that would hunt the jungles and deserts of the world? Did they eat kibble? Oh, most certainly. Yeah, they like little grain fed nuggets. No, they don't. They don't. I switched my cat because she's old to smalls. Uh-huh.

Loves it. Fresh. Legit did a side-by-side taste test of her own food, but only. eat the smalls. I was like, that's all I'm going to give you from now. So it's like a high protein. High protein, real. It's really designed for the diet that this animal should be eating. Nice.

It's a great cat food, honestly. For a limited time only because you are a Wild Times listener, you can get 35% off smalls, plus an additional 50% off your first order by using code wild. That's an additional 50% off when you head to smalls.com and use promo code wild. Again, that's promo code wild for an additional 50% off your first. first order plus free shipping at smalls.com. Boom. Love my cat.

I know it's spring, but it feels like summer in Southern California. Peter came over with another friend and we did a pool night the other night, a little three-person pool party. That's right. Peter looking real good shirts off. Best shirts off shape since I've known you, which is like almost 20 years. Thanks, mate. Well, I'll tell you, it's been a little tough to stick to the diet, but I started using

factor. and basically they send me my meals. I'm on the protein plus plan, man. It takes like two minutes to make up these meals. I never got to think about it. They're delicious. And I'm looking real trim. No, dude, my wife and I started doing it too because I'm like, it's just easy.

I got you into it. Yeah, it's cheaper than getting takeout. The food's great, like jalapeno, sweet corn, polenta, and chicken. Oh my gosh. excited. I get excited for my, for my dinners and, dude, the egg bites for breakfast. Oh, dude, I don't even eat breakfast regularly. Now I'm eating those like every three days, which is a big improvement. Yeah. Well, look, if you're interested, get started at factormeals.com slash wild 50 off and use code wild 50 off to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box.

That's wild 50 off at factor meals.com slash wild 50 off for 50. percent off plus free shipping. It's a good deal. Great deal. Great deal. You should do it. Go yard all baseball season long with Underdog's pickum game. Underdog is one of the leading sports app and you can play now in your state.

Millions of fans have already won billions making picks on Underdog. Will you be next? I think you should be. To play, all you have to do is download the app and choose whether a player will go higher or lower on one of their stats. You can choose from things like home runs, strikeouts, total baseball. and so much more. Once your picks feel good,

you can play with as little as $1. If you get everything right, you could win up to 1,000 times your money. This week, I'm just going higher on a bunch of Yankees statistics because I'm a Yankees fan. It makes the games more fun. And they've been smashing and it's been working.

So I'm just rooting for my team and making cash. Nice. Download the underdog app and sign up with promo code Wild to unlock a special offer of up to a thousand bucks in bonus cash when you make your first deposit. That's promo code wild. Must be 18 plus, 19 plus in Alabama and Nebraska, 19 plus in Colorado for some games, 21 plus in Massachusetts and Arizona, and present in a state where underdog fantasy operates. Terms apply.

Concerned with your play, call 1-800 gambler or visit www.n.ncpgambling.org. In Arizona, call 1-800 next step or text next step to 533-4-2. In New York, call the 24-7-Hopline at 1-8-7-8-Hawr. Hope N. Y. Or text hope and why. DFL. Top three. Ah. Dead fucking lost. Okay. Thank you for the jingles.

Appreciate you. Top three DFL items to having a picnic basket. All right. I like that. Wow. That's good. You go first. Okay. Easy. Easy because number three, standard picnic item, a good old granola bar. Now. That's very lame.

That's my DLIF. Explain why. Probably one of those nature's valley ones. Exactly right. Exactly. And not even the nice, soft, chewy kind, the hard, crunchy kind. Oh my God. And I'll tell you why.

Please do. They're disgusting 100% of the time unless you're on a hike. There is something about when you're out on a hike, that exact one right there. No, those are the worst. Dude, I'm telling you, they're tastes like shit unless you're outdoors. Because they're so bad. It's the only time they're edible at all is if you're out on a hike. There's no other time.

But I'm picturing like. a yogi bear style picnic like sit down, laid down the blanket. Yeah, not like you're pulling it out of a fanny pack and shoving it in your face.

While you're walking. Let's just say you're stationed and you pull it out. Well, it's too late now because I picked that. But for my next two, I will do more gourmet picnic style.

Okay. Oh man. Okay. I was thinking all like snacks too. All right. Coming in at number two, if I'm going for a picnic, especially sitting down

in the shade, enjoying it, I want cheese and crackers. Great picks. ideally a nice soft brie. It warms up in the backpack or the picnic basket while you're on your way out there. Disgusting warm brie. No, so nice.

People bake brie all the time. Oh, yeah. Bake brie. I should have named my kid bake brie. It's a good name. A nice warm brie. A nice sun-warm debris. Absolutely.

And then if I'm going to have that at my number one is just a variety of deli meats. I basically just want an out in the woods charcutory board. DFL? DFL for a picnic. chocolate. Oh, sure. Yeah. It's just gop. It doesn't matter what picnic you ever go on. If you have chocolate, it's just go poop by the time you're eating.

I'm going to go next just because, like, I'm annoyed because he kind of, it's adjacent. But number, number... Then you shouldn't have asked me. No, I know. I shouldn't have corrected you. And by the way, if I was the one that was answering with snacks, I would have been skewered on this podcast. Yeah, you could have gotten murdered. Yeah, I would have said you were dumb. Yeah, exactly.

Instead, we were over here encouraging you, being supportive, helping you figure it out. Anyways, So number three, for me, you've got to have, dude, like, bought from an Italian deli, deli sandwich is wrapped up, you know, so it's not like a soggy white bread sandwich. It's like a submarine-style sandwich. Delicious. I literally don't think I've had a deli sub like that, a deli sandwich in like three years.

Oh, my wife makes me get them like once a month. She has this place in Agora Hills that she loves. They should have done that for lunches. They're so good. I should have. Look at that with the corner shown. Sounds so good. even that's on the flatbreads.

I'm talking more of a subway. Why do we order pokey for that? I don't know. We're obsessed with that place. All right, what else? All right. So number two, again, is it must be, you know, chunks of cheese that you can eat with some sort of like a dip.

Squares of cheese like with a toothpick that you can dip. Maybe in, you're dipping your cheese into something else? Into more cheese? I've literally never done such a thing. What are you dipping it into? Maybe hummus. No, no, like a. dip of some, maybe artichoke dip.

Okay. Okay. I bet that's good. Anyways, next. I dipped a string cheese into Tiziki last night. Oh, Tizu, that's another good one. Tzzii's good. It's fucking great.

Zikki's really good. Four in the morning. Number one. Still awake. Aside from your camelback that's already filled with vodka or whiskey. Okay. You must have a bottle of wine. White wine.

White wine. Well, white, because if it's not chilled, it's going to be warm and white wine warm is gross. That's true. That is correct. I guess you could put some ice cubes in the picnic basket with it to keep it chill. It's already melted. Okay.

So we're going red wine. Yeah. Something light. Maybe a little, not too dry, but like a little sweet, but not too sweet. All right. And then, uh, bit sweet. Well, that fucking last is obviously those granola bars. Yeah.

Yeah. I blew it on that one. I'd rather, I'd rather, I'd rather shoot myself in space. I'd eat one of those fucking granola bars. Let me tell you. I mean, they are terrible. That was my whole point of it. They're terrible.

They're on every craft services table that's ever existed. And no one touches them. And they've never been touched. Never. Never. They're worse than day old bagels that you find in the trash. That's true. That's hideous.

Yeah. I mean, there's clearly, you guys are all on the right page. So you want a baguette with brie and some sort of cured pork like a salami. Very simple. Yeah. A little mustard in there. Maybe a few greens, not too many. I like your description.

We'd ordered subs. It's the only thing I can think of right now. Your description is good because that will stay good. It's not going to sock. It won't have cheese in there. You won't have any wet sauces on there, no lettuce. Yeah, it's good. That's a good pick.

I'm happy with that. I want a nice thing of dill pickles. Ooh. You're a big pickle guy. My son would love that. By the way, the vinegar, the pickle juice, good for muscle cramps. Is it? Yeah.

Didn't your brother invest in a pickle company? They did. Yeah. A quite famous one now. Yeah. They did well. They did. Yeah, the guy was making pickles in his garage. So would you say your brothers, like as into pickles as you are? Or was it just like an off the cuff thing? I've never seen a meat of pickle. Just a smart business man. All right. So we got, yeah. Yeah. And then of course, you just have to have the alcohol component. And the correct answer is red wine, not white, warm white wine is piss. I'm going on a picnic after this with granola bars and warm white. Oh my God. That's all going to take with sir.

That'll be a lonely hike. Unfortunately, DFL is. is what Forest picked, Nature Valley Granola Bar, which the best way to ingest is to snort it up your nose because it's dust. It's always dust. When you take it out of your backpack, it is dust every time. Get one of those kids in the back of the car and see if you ever get a chance of getting those crumbs out of the car seat. That's it. You know, when you drive off the lot with a new car, your car devalues 10 years.

If you hand your kid in Nature Valley Granola Bar, it devalues it 25 years. 25 years. Immediately. Kyle, real quick, just DFL. I don't go on picnics. Just DFL. I know you were waiting for that, but DFL. Oh, boy.

And you can't pick Nature Valley granola bars. That is probably the... Like, like, gummies. Okay, that's pretty bad. Yeah, that's yucky. You know what would be another good DFL pick is Octopus Sushimi. That would be bad. Any sushi.

Any cold raw fish on a picnic is bad. You can't do that. But if you could pull it off, your woman would love you. If you could have, like, have it come out as fresh sushi. You know, it's another essential for me on a picnic or any other time. even right now while I'm slurring my words. My magic mind. Oh, dude.

I got the Magic Mind Max over here, dude. Yeah, that one's great. That's the new 165 milligrams of slow release caffeine. Which I thought was going to make me jittery, but evidently I was reading about it because I do this with anything I ingest like a nut. They added more of the other stuff in there to kind of smooth it out. Yeah, it's slow release, whatever that means.

Props to you, Magic Minds. Yeah, I'm going to do the caffeine free. Yeah. Because I've had a lot of caffeine. Yeah, you came in jittery. And then I'm sticking with the OG. And that's one of the cool things about having new products that they're coming out with. There's a magic mind for everybody.

Kind of a controversial thing came out. Politics aside. Your headware? That is controversial. But politics aside anyways. So House Committee has declared National Park Service areas such as the Channel Islands, which I know is near and dear to your hearts. Love it.

National Park to be minor national park and should be removed from the National Park Service Management. and then also the Santa Monica Mountains recreation as non-traditional removing management and like what does that mean what is removing management this is just the headline Kyle they'll no longer fall within the management of the national park service but they'll still be managed and monitor they'll be managed they'll go back to the state there's there's multiple parks that's what I'm

wondering about here that's not bad then right does that matter I don't know I don't know the actual story but I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to reduce there has been a movement over the last four or five years to reduce the bureaucracy involved with the National Park Service. Let's see what it says is. So they're going to remove the concessions. This is going to come off poorly, I think,

and some people might get upset. Just politics aside. That's what I mean. Understandably, like trying to film or work in a national park is a nightmare. Sure. I mean, it's such a headache. Too much red tape.

No, I'm not asking to go hunt in a national park. I'm asking to take a pretty picture of a fox, and they're like, ha, ha, buckle up. It's going to be six months of paper. and you're like, why? I got kicked out of a state park for drinking beer, and I didn't know you couldn't drink in this. Did you know that you can hunt in national forests?

That's crazy. National forest, but that's very different than a national park. Sure. And there's way more of them. There's way more national forest. Anything interesting there, Kyle? Like more information about it at all? Because I just read the headline.

I know it's embellished sometimes. But so probably might be a net positive to you who can kind of go there while out more than normal? Well, I don't know. It depends because if the state of California takes it over, then they'll probably make it even more bureaucratic and much more of a mess. Exactly. I mean, yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, I don't understand the headline or what it means.

Yeah. Maybe not enough info. What you see with all these things, though, right, is the same pattern where there's a headline that says something like, you know, we're taking away national park status and then everybody gets upset. Right. And it's like, well, no, we're just handing it over to a different agency. To be fair, I should have read more. And it's not political and it's not as bad as you think. and it's not, doesn't mean that it's going to all be cut down and slashed and burned.

Yeah. So I hope that's the case. I just, when I read it, I thought I was thinking in my head, like, you know, I just hope they don't remove the protections from these national parks, but it doesn't really sound like that's what's happening. There's still be like protected as a national park. I mean, they're essentially trimming staff. Okay. I think is what they're saying. And, you know, the employees that got axed are saying like, oh, this is inefficient.

It's not good. But also like having worked with National Park Service. it's a mess. Sure. There's nothing. It wasn't efficient to begin with. No. No. God, no.

It's crazy. So, yeah, I don't know. Probably don't know enough about this, but it sounds like it's just general federal budget cuts. One more, one more quick question, and this is not political at all, but it's something that I've always kind of wondered. At what point does an island become a continent? Like, is there any, is it just arbitrary?

Like, because Australia and England or the UK or England, or England, are technically what? An island? Well, yeah, every, every continent's technically an island. England is an island. Right. Australia is a continent. We don't call it a continent. That's true, right.

So we do, but I always just wondered, like, is there a certain point, like, Hawaii is an island? Certainly not a continent. It's a state. Yeah, it's not a continent. Greenland could be a continent. It's big enough. Yeah. I mean, it's just size.

Do they call it an island though? Greenland? Yeah, it's an island. It's a country and it's an island, just like the UK. I think it's size and also. also sort of like, you know, Europe is the continent, right? Right. And, but I guess it's, that's not...

Geologically as well, the plates. Oh, yeah. Really? The tectonic plates are what kind of divide things into continents? That's interesting. Uh, anyway, I guess they're saying, there's seven main divisions of land, main divisions, right? Where they're the size of it and the way the continental plates work.

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, how much... Is Australia bigger than Greenland? Yes. A lot bigger? Probably close to double, I would guess. Let's see. I love seeing these comparisons.

Because you know the globe that we look at is very inaccurate as to scale? Like it's 7.7 million square kilometers while Greenland. It's about three and a half times. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But Australia is huge. I think people in the rest of the world don't.

Australia overlaid on the U.S. or whatever. I think it's like half the U.S. or something. It's like a quarter or something. Oh, my God. No, it's almost a size. Holy shit. It's like bigger. It's literally the same size.

Just upside down. Well, I mean, look, because where you've got like the FNQ and stuff, like far north Queensland and Darwin and stuff is just off the map. It's almost like the exact same footprint. Yeah, that's crazy. Wow. Yeah. What about Antarctica versus Australia?

Isn't Antarctica the largest landmass in the world? Really? Oh, thanks a dog. Is that my way off on that? It's bigger than Australia. So about probably the same size of the U.S. It's almost twice the size as Australia. Yeah.

Yeah, it's weird. because when you look at a globe and it's sort of wrapping around, you don't get the full sense. Yeah, and it's just this little thing at the bottom of the globe. Can you put the real scale of a map? Like, it's so fascinating. You look when the real sizes of continents as opposed to the globe. Like there's the U.S. and you're just, well, the U.S. isn't a continent.

Well, the North America. I'm sorry. I apologize for that. You fucked up. But, dude, North America and South America, are they actually split in half, right? by the Panama Canal? There's a canal there that we dug. So we made it two. There's a creek running between two. Anyways, I'm sorry I dog like that.

While we're talking about national parks and national forests, Kyle, what did we just receive from a national forest? You said this place was steps from the water. We just haven't found the steps yet. How much did we save? Enough. Enough to get lost. Or you could book a stay with Hilton.

Welcome to your ocean front room. Just steps from the water. The Hilton sale is on now. Book on Hilton.com or the Hilton app and save up to 20% to get the stay you expected. When you want savings, not surprises. It matters where you stay. Hilton, for the stay.

Yamava Resort and Casino at San Manuel is California's number one entertainment destination for today's superstars. Catch the Jonas Brothers return to the Yamava theater stage on April 30th, the powerful vocals of Demi Lovato on May 17th, and the signature Southern Country Rock of Eric Church on July 19th. Tickets on sale now at Yamava Theater.com.

Only at Yamava Resort and Casino, celebrating its 40th anniversary. U.N. must be 21 to enter. We received an endorsement of some type. Oh, an email. An email. From Hunter. Hunter. Hunter's from South Louisiana.

Yep, nice. And he was doing a job removing a large rotten oak tree when he saw some woodpecker holes. and he was curious, could these potentially be an ivory-billed woodpecker? So he sent us some pictures. He took photos, yeah. So I haven't seen these yet.

Every time these sound very appealing, I send them direct to Kyle, and I'm like, let's dig in. Let's play along. So let's see. Wait, first, do you believe there is still at least one ivory-billed woodpecker that's extant? Until like five years ago, I did, and now, no.

Just because it's still not been found? It's just like there's so many burders, there's so much technology. especially in the last five years, they've come up with a lot of these like acoustic monitoring systems. Oh, interesting. And not that many people are using them, but still, like there is these, these, I forget they're called, like, audio frequency detectors or AFDs or something like that. It's basically a trail camera for audio.

And people are using them. Birders are using them and there's just no hard evidence of this bird. Okay. So I've rebuilt, if it were to exist, would it only reside in North America or are they from all over? Cuba and then the southeast of the U.S. Okay. Yeah. Interesting.

All right. So let's see these picks. Here's this pictures that Hunter sent in. Here's the first one. Drum roll. Okay. That definitely looks like Woody, the woodpecker. So you're looking at, so I got confused between a pilliated and an ivory bill.

Yep. When we were searching. Yep. And there's a distinctive wing pattern with the white on the wing. Correct. So Kyle, maybe pull up a key for us, which is ivory billed versus pilliated woodpecker. And pilliated are very. are very common regular woodpeckers.

Relatively common. Yeah. But the main thing here, actually that, no, that one was good. You had it there. So there's a couple things here. The main thing is the white on the wing tips. So see on the ivory build how there's white triangles on the wings versus the pilliated. Yeah.

And then obviously it's token name ivory build woodpecker. It has a white bill. Any difference between male female? Well, yeah, the female of the ivory build doesn't have the red crown. Okay. Yeah. But still has the white. And then see the eye striping and white.

what not of the pilliated. So let's go back to the picture from our guy here. There is what appears to be some white on that lower wing. Do you see that? It does look like that. That's interesting. That tail feather goes out really far too. Is that same on both birds? That's the same. And the size, the ivory builds a little bit larger than the pilliated, but they're both really big birds. Is there another photo? There is. The neck is smaller than Forrest's right leg. Is there a bird in this photo? Yeah, I see it. Oh. You're not going to be able to see. enough about the face. It's tough. I don't think.

No. Can you go back to the first one? Yeah, so what you have is an intriguing white streak down the wing. Go back to the key. Hard to say conclusively, though, because of the quality of the picture. Because the pilliated also

has some white that runs down the side, right? On the body? Under its wing, yeah. But I think what happens a lot, and I would say what's happened here, go back to it, Kyle. What's happened here is they have a beautiful shimmer to their feathers and the light is catching

it just right. So the camera makes it look as though there's white coming off that lower wing. But what it really is, is that angle is perfectly reflecting the sunlight. So it's getting that shimmer and it distorts the image a little bit to make it look as though it's got white on it.

So certainly not conclusive, but of all the ivory-billed woodpecker photos I've seen of which there are now tens of thousands, it's one of the better ones. It's one of the more compelling looking ones. Yeah, the tough thing is, you know, most people that are even interested aren't out there with a birding camera. Right.

Yeah. So, you got, right. You got an iPhone. And by the time you, you know, zoom in, yeah. You can't tell the difference between a shimmer. Totally. But we love when people send this stuff in. Keep it coming.

A little clue for Hunter who took this and anybody else. Take a video. Whenever, if you're just pulling out your iPhone, you're like, what could that be? Take a video instead of photos. because video is much more conclusive. There are recognizable patterns in video versus a photo. Oh, it flew that way. Oh, it made that sound.

Whatever it happens to be, take a video. So that way, even if this is the best image you get from the video, maybe if you had seen this bird take off, that would have told you enough to know from the flight pattern whether or not it could have actually been an ivory bill versus a lot. Well, let's also, here's another thing. How long does it take you to frame up the photo and take a photo? Let's say it takes about 10 seconds.

Right. If you're filming, what's the math on this, Peter? How many photos do you have if you film for 10 seconds? Usually, I mean, 24 photos per second. Right. So even if you film for 10 seconds, you have 240 photos. Right. Yeah. Right.

Can show you different angles, different. It moves. Especially if you're in 4K or 8K, you really want to do it. Get in an 8K, those stills, they might have some motion blur, but they're still going to look pretty good even at that. And a good example is that colossal squid we looked at a few weeks ago. If that had just been a single image, nobody would have known what it was. That's true, yeah. Yeah, same with the, well, when we looked at the thylosine last week or a couple weeks ago,

I think the last podcast, we were, I mean, I think your, your assumption on it at the end of the day was behavior-based because of the kind of the way it was walking. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Anyway, thanks for sending those in, Hunter. It's always fun to see.

Speaking of extinct and rare animals, there was a very interesting piece of news. And I haven't seen this yet. A mysterious shark was spotted a lot. for the very first time. Okay. So we have a shark mystery. Yeah. A shark mystery.

We're shark heavy, but people like sharks. People love. There's a whole week dedicated to them. There's a whole week dedicated to him. So here we have scientists captured the first ever live footage of the deep sea painted swell shark. So this is the footage. That's it right there. Okay.

I'll be honest. It looks like a lot of other swell sharks, which is really cool. I love swell sharks, by the way. Peter, any idea? Let's play a game. Pause for a second. We're going to play the guess why game. Ready?

Give me a jingle, Kyle. Give me a jingle. He doesn't know what to do. That's an applause. Guess why? Yeah. I don't even know. Guess why?

I was going to try and see it. Guess why it's called a swell shark? Okay. I'm going to give two guesses. My more likely guess is that when there's big swells of water, it feeds. And then my second guess.

No, no. You only get one. Then he gets one. All right. Then you can have. another. Okay. Yeah.

I think that it's a filter feeder and it, it's like swells up as it, as it eats plankton. I was also going to say something about its body swelling. Kyle, do you know why it's called a swell shark? I do. Oh, well, what is it? What is it? What is it? He looked it up.

Well, you got to set it. The body swells up. Yeah. But it's a defensive response. Not from eating. So they're kind of the puffer fish of the shark world. Yeah, you idiot. They're kind of the puffer fish of the shark world.

They're called swell sharks because they're small benthic sharks that, you know, you're which means they live on the bottom, that primarily to rest, they'll go wedge themselves into the cracks of reefs and caves and things. And then if anything tries to grab them or attack them, they swell up full of water like a puffer fish.

And by doing that, they wedge themselves into that cracker cave so nothing can get them out to eat them. Crazy. Just take little bites off its tail. Yeah. And do all swell sharks live in oatmeal? Oatmeal?

Look at the video of this thing. It does look like oatmeal. It's literally just living in a bowl of oatmeal. It's really cool. This is 1,800 feet down. That might have been the worst joke you've ever said on the pile. I liked it. It's because Kyle clicked away from the video.

Oh, so your time is. I had the joke in my head. He clicked away and I thought about aborting the mission. Yeah. And decided I was still going to do it. I started thinking about those little sponge animals that get bigger and bigger. And then I was like, no, that can't be it. That doesn't make sure.

I'll be honest. I have a few close friends that listen to the pod and think I'm funny. Well, you are funny. So I make, sometimes I just make jokes because I know I can picture these three people listening to their thought. Laughing. Yeah. Laughing it up.

So what was really cool about this is a lot of swell shark species, Japanese swell shark, California swell shark. There's dozens of them are shallow water species. This footage came at 1,800 or so feet down in, but here's what's interesting in Timor Lestey, which once they figured out how to identify it, which I think was incredibly challenging because they're like, what the hell is this? They figured out it was the painted swell shark, which was 683

miles outside of its known range. Oh, wow. So that's why, and it's really cool because this happens a lot, right? You look at an animal and you go, what the fuck is that? Whatever that creature is, is not known from this part of the world. Right, right. And so it probably took a lot of scientists,

a lot of shark experts, a lot of effort to figure out what it was because they thought the nearest possible, that animal, they never thought that animal could be 683 miles from where it's known range. No, it's not on the radar. And this happens like, you know, this happens a lot where you see something and you're like, what could that be? And then you go on Google, you're like known sharks of Rhode Island.

And you're like, nope, it's none of those. Well, now it'll be on there because it'll be like one anomalous incident. There was one of these sharks found 680 miles lost. But I don't think it's anomalous because it's we just don't. Nobody's looking down, you know, 1,800 feet in Timor-Leste. So that shark might have a massively expansive range that we have no idea about. Interesting. And could there be something about the climate there that this particular shark just lives deeper than it would in other areas where it's known to live closer to the surface?

Probably. So I don't know the shark well enough to say, but wherever it's regular ranges is probably cooler, which is why it's probably up higher. And then here it's probably going down deeper to seek that cooler water. That would be my guess. I mean, it's, I don't know, when you say like something that lives in the ocean was found 600 miles from where it's like, it could be anyone. Totally. Well, why don't you look it up, Kyle. Why don't you give us a quick range map of the patient's swell shark?

Don't screw this up. You have to get it immediately. Speaking of footage, Forrest, I noticed A, that you don't have any shoes on, but B popped him off when I walked into the studio. The biggest, biggest. Did you laugh because I said footage? Yeah. Well, no, I laughed because of why he's not wearing shoes. Can I quickly tell you why?

Yeah, it's fine. It's embarrassing. He got here and he was sweaty. And so he wanted to change his shirt. Yeah. And then he took his shoes off. And then realized he wasn't changing his pants. And then out of anger at himself, refused to put his shoes back on.

And pointed this out to everybody or just a pat. That's about right. I couldn't believe I took my shoes off to change my shirt. I don't know why I did that. Wow. The first line of dementia. Yeah, I think I'm slowly fading. But I noticed, I noticed that, like, normally you sit just like,

like this, but you've really been like, you've been tucking your feet under your butt. Do you know why? Because I'm shoeless, so I have no support down here. Oh, there's no slipping around. So usually I'm sitting like this, but as I'm sitting here with no shoes, my feet are sliding. So I keep having to tuck them up on the chair. It's because he'll fall right out of the chair. It'd be hilarious.

Just let it happen. What if he slid out of the chair and chipped his tooth on the mic on the way out? Oh, my God. I would be cackling like a heathed. Do you remember when I head butted the mic? Yeah. I had like an open wound on my nose for like, Six days after that.

I think you might have broken your nose. Those were the good old days. I think those were audio only days. No, that was like six weeks ago. It was in April or maybe March. I don't remember. Bad memories. He was reenacting something and he headbutted.

Yeah. Oh, it was the... Made me bleed. It was some animal that headbutted you. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Oh, it was a kangaroo.

It wasn't when he was talking about how he, his first attack move would be a headbut. I don't know. I'm just that stupid that I heard myself on my own. Oh, the one where there's a video of you getting attacked. Yeah, that was something. Kyle, let's play a game. What do you got? I'm a little tipsy.

Really? A little bit. Good for you. I know. I've had one light strike. At least your hindron. Yeah. That's true.

Dude. Do you want to play animal or IKEA? Sure. My wife hates this game. But you can you tell the story? I don't think you've told it. Did I tell it or did I just text you guys? I don't remember.

You texted. I told us. Might have mentioned it on the bonus. Anyway, just quickly, my wife like angrily called me on the phone while she was driving the other day. I was like, what? Why are you so pissed off? She's like, because you were playing animal or IKEA and the only thing you

insulted was a piece of furniture that you didn't and you said how much you hated it and it's literally the couch in your office that I put there. The one piece of IKEA that she bought for me. I'm surprised. Of course she did. Yeah. And I believe Peter slept on it.

Yeah, I did. I slept on it. How's this work? Jerked on it. All right, I'm going to read a word. And you guys are essentially going to guess, is this word an animal or is it something that you would buy from IKEA? Okay.

I love it. All right. Let's go. Clippon. Clippon. Clippon. Clippon. Clippon is.

It's another very poorly made. What's the thing called where it can be a couch or a bed? A futon. A futon. It's a futon from IKEA, the clip and line. It's a side standing footstool. Like a nice padded one that you move over for your feet and then move it back. Again, poorly made.

I think it's a poorly made fan that clips right onto the window. That's a clip on. That's a different thing. Hey, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. I'm going to give Patrick a full point for that one. Really? It's a futon?

It is a cheap couch. Wow. That'll do. That'll play. Full point. I say give them point nine. That's the first time anybody's won a full point on animal. It's true.

It's true. All right. All right. All right. All right. Next up. Selenadon. Solenodon.

This must be an animal. Selenadon is like a big slug that carries a Jedi sword with it. So I know it's an animal. now I'm getting pissed off at myself because I can't remember if it's a, like a small shrew-looking thing or if this was like the name for the giant sloth. I think it's like a small shrew-looking animal. Give them the point. Wait.

Oh, you know? Yeah. That is correct. Yeah. A small shrew? It's a small venomous shrew-like animal. Yeah, wow. Yep.

So that's 1.9 points. Were you with me when we got to see one? No. Where was I? Can you pull one up? Someone in Florida, of course, had one. A selenadon. A selenadon.

And I was like, how do you have this? And they went, I don't know, man. Yeah, pretty much. It was Florida. Trapped it. I woke up and it was in my best. No, they had two of them. Oh, they're pretty big.

Yeah, it was wild to see. I remember who it was. I'm not sure I'm supposed to say it out loud, so I'm going to say nothing. Wow. So he's got a pretty hefty glove on holding that thing. It must actually be dangerous. Yep. Two points for Patrick.

Do you know where they're from by chance? Oh, you said that. Cuban selenadon. Okay. Yeah. All right. Next up, poeing. I think it's pying.

Okay. P-O-A-N-G, pying. It doesn't sound Ikean. Must put the spelling of these words on. Does that sound Scandinavian to you? In the edit, it doesn't. Poang. Yes.

It is a piece of furniture. This is a trick question. I don't know why, but this is a Scandinavian take on an Asian armoir. What's an armoire? I just knew the word. Oh, dude, an armoire is like a big made of wood. A big cabinet?

Like a cabinet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a hatch. You know what a hutch is? Nope. Anyways, I'm gonna go animal, and I think Poang is, it's a tie word for,

um, a tie word for turtle. Ah, it's a panda bear. Ob. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding ding, ding. No point. No points. It is a piece of furniture, but it's an armchair.

I said arm arm. I mean, that's like a third of a point. I get him a quarter. Point two. Point two, five. Okay. Point two to five. All right.

Next. Dole, D-H-O-L-E. I started. You start. Okay, so a dull D-H-O-L-E is a... Dole. It might be. It might be.

Or is a D-H-L-L-E. It's definitely a D-H-L-L-E. hole. I got to go right here. This is a footrest at IKEA. That was literally my guess two guesses ago. This is a different word. Yours was movable.

This one weighs too much. Oh, that's true. This is a D-hole one. Dole is an animal and I'm really getting mad at myself because I fucking know that Forrest knows and I'm struggling to picture the fucking thing. I feel like it might be in Battle Royale. I give my hand, like a little bit of a hand.

Sure. But not a giveaway. Sure. It is in the card game. It lives on the Indie. continent. Does that help? Pass, I'm going to find it.

No, no, give him something else. He's finding it in the game right now. Oh, nice. Available on Amazon. What'd you say on the... It's a predator from India. A predator? Oh, is it a reptilian?

Nope. How big? Give a size, give a size-ish. It is medium. So like a tiger? Like an alligator? Smaller than a tiger, bigger than a cat, a house cat. Which deck would it be in?

I don't remember. Do you remember? No. No. Body maybe? All right. Should I say what it is now? There's a thousand cards in that deck.

Let's hear it. Should I say what it is? A doll is an Indian dog-like predator, like a jackal. It's probably the number one thing that I want to see in the wild in India that I haven't seen.

Oh, why so? They're just really cool. Their numbers are diminishing. They're beautiful. Very cool. Hack hunters. Almost like an Indian fox. It's a cross between a fox,

a maind wolf, and then. The musculature of its shoulders, a man. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. They're so cool. Very, very shy. Oh, really? Yeah, very shy dogs.

What do they feed on? They're hunters. They'll go out, they'll hunt deer, they'll hunt rabbits, basically anything, yeah. Are the rabbits wascally? Well, very wascally. All right. Next up. Next.

One point for forest. Next. He's got 1.225. I have 1.9. Next. I have 0.00.0. Well, you're going to get this. Okay.

I know you are. Snigler. I won't even attempt to say this word. Snidler. Kyle just got can solved. Kyle, well, that was nice telling you.

Make sure you put the spelling up on the screen for all these words. Might be pronounced snigler. Sniglayer. It's definitely not pronounced a third way. No. It's got to be furniture. It's got to be. No way.

This is an animal. This is a digging. This is a naked roll mat. This is a naked roll mat. This is a line of very. poor quality plate wear. That's a good guess. From Ikea.

From Ikea. That's a good guess. I'm going to say that a snigler is a bedside table lamp stand. Bonjour, compadre. It's the Price Line Negotiator. How do I negotiate so many great travel deals? My greatest gadget. The Price Line app.

It's got hotel deals, flight deals, rental car deals, all of those deals in a bundle, deals, game day deals, Concert trip deals. No one deals more deals than Price Line. Hold your horses. There's more. The app lets you filter hotels by neighborhood, vibe, star level, and amenities like pools and spas and beach fronts. Wait, I'm not done. Stop cutting the up. Price line! When you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work, use Indeed sponsor jobs. It gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills, certifications, and more. Spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes.

Listeners of this show will get a $75-sponsored job credit at Indeed.com slash podcast. That's Indeed.com slash podcast. Terms and conditions apply. Need a hiring hero? This is a job for Indeed sponsored jobs. Not even a thing. A lamp stand. So it's too small? Get a snigler. It is a piece of furniture. What is it?

It is a baby crib. That's ridiculous. We haven't guessed that at all. So are they playing on the word snuggler? Is this an actual... Snuggler? I'd like to see what this poorly made crib looks like. I also want to know where these words come from.

Is this an actual word in their country? Also, who put it on a Snickers bar? Oh, it's probably... It's Norwegian. That's what it's called in Norway. So a baby's crib is... Yeah, but look how minimalist that crib is. That's hilarious.

So, by the way, you want a crib that your baby definitely falls out of? Yeah. By the three-sided snigle. Dude, what a piece of shit. Yeah, no kidding. I mean, I'm assuming that there's a side that attaches and detaches, no? I would assume so, but this isn't a fucking idea commercial. This next one's real fun, Pat.

Can you pronounce it for us? This is a grim sauce. Grimsauss. Sorry, Kyle, can you pronounce it? How do you say? Nice. He rolled the arm. You know, Kyle just said the word cream sauce. Cream sauce.

What is their little circle, the degree symbol above a vowel? Do you get an A on an A? I don't know. What is that? I don't think that's an um-lott. Um-lott's two dots. Yeah. No, it's not an um-lot. The um-lok goes over the ooh.

How do you say it? Grim-sales. Grim sauce. Go, Peter, quickly. Cream sauce. A grim sauce? It's a sauce. This is a sauce they serve with the meatballs

they give out at IKEA. That's a good guess. If that's true. And this was a trick by Edwin, he's fired, and I'm, nothing will stop me from flipping this table. If it's meatball sauce at IKEA, I'm flipping it. I hope it is. Oh, me too.

You want to take a guess? Is that all you can think of? No. It's kind of all you think of. You read. No, this is an animal. I believe, I'm 90% sure. This is the Norwegian word for a wolf,

which is found in the northern forests. Grimsasas is well known to be a very well-made corner bookstand. Oh, so you wedge it in the corner and you get more square. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Exactly. Fuck.

So harsh. That sound. I wanted to flip. What is it? Grim sas is a pendant light. A pendant light. Let's take a look at this piece of dog shit. No.

Ever bought this product. To be, to be honest, though, I do like IKEA. Oh, it actually looks really nice. I bought one thing when I was fucking, when I first moved to L.A., I went there and bought silverware. And the first time I used the fork, it fully just bent. Well, were you trying to? do like some kind of ESP psychic shit with it.

It's actually quite a nice light to be honest. I'll tell you what, I wouldn't want that thing that low over my bed though. Would you want it four inches above your coffee table like in that photo? Definitely not. Kyle, clip this whole game out and send it to IKEA and see if they want to sponsor the podcast.

Just add bleeps. And just yeah, Frankenbite every time Patrick says piece of shit, just change it to piece of awesome. Piece of art. Piece of good. What is this piece of art? Two more. I love this game. Make the Swedish word for good.

Yep, two more. Next up is Onsilla. Is that Oncilla or Onsilla? Or Onsia. Oncia. This is an orca. Nicely done. An orca.

Definitive. Orcilla. Could be right. You go. I go, it's a type of cat. Is that correct? I don't know. But just for reference,

Animal. Animal. Yeah. Okay, I'll stick with it. I'm going to go animal. And Onsia is a. is a tarantula. Forest gets a point.

You knew it. I knew it, yeah. But I was trying not to blow it for everybody. You threw me off. Yeah. It's a cat? What is this an adorable thing that I want to make out with?

Wait, is this the cutest, most dangerous cat? It's one of them, yeah. I also called a northern tiger cat. They're a beautiful little, very efficient little predators. It's a cartoon. Yeah. I mean, tell me you don't want to pull its lips back

and kiss its teeth. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know how like kids cartoons, everything has huge eyes. Yep. Yep, that's it. Anime, too. If you're driving or something,

don't pull over, but remember when you get home to Google this thing. Tell Siri to do it. On C-I-L-A. It's the cutest thing on the planet. Yeah, look at, it's adorable. They're so pretty.

Patrick, next time you see John Rondano ask him about his onsula. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. He has one. Oh, do you imagine? We must hear the story. No, it was, we were trying to get an onsila to attack

like a hunting decoy that I had as like behavioral enrichment and the uncila was like growling at it so John Rundano took his boompull and put it down right beside the oncillas enclosure and the oncilla clued into the you know the fluffy the dead cat

the big furry thing yeah yeah on the mic in about half a second and just came over and swiped it through the cage pulled it in and ripped it to shreds in a matter and he was so upset like John was so upset these are the risks you take you know it's funny a 99

I'm 9% sure I've seen him use his boom pole to get something to attack it and that happened before. Oh, there you go. What did he think the outcome? I don't know, but he was, remember how upset he was that that happened? He was like grumpy the rest of the day and like, it's like, oh, great, there's holes in it. He's eating it. You know, he's like, no shit, dude. Oh, he's eating.

Dude, he's digesting it. Quick sidebar. Kyle, pull up, there was a recent video. I don't know if you guys saw of the orangutan. A thousand degrees in here, by the way. I know, we got to fix it after. It's all I can think about. Arangetang tank pulls somebody through its cage.

Oh, I just looked at this video literally yesterday. Oh, no way. I've always wanted to see something like this. We'll not let it. So he's messing with it. Got him. He gets his shirt. And he is in front of where he should be.

So that's a not an area. It's a restricted area. Oh, I didn't know that. I should have known that. Oh, you got let it. Dude, you should have just not let it get your leg. Just tear your shirt. Just come out of it.

of your shirt or something. That guy kicked it with a sandal. Look at the, look at the, uh, look at the, how, I gotta see how this ends. Because the orangutan appears to have pretty sharp nails, eh? Oh yeah. Dude, he's using. He's also so strong. Like three people pulling could not actually get him to release. Oh, look, he thinks he's going to be gone.

No, it got his ankle. Oh, put that toe. Oh, he tried to bite the toe. Can we see that last? You got to watch this if you're only listening. This is one of the best things I've ever seen. Look at he tries to bite the toe. He went for it.

The guy's lucky he kept his foot. I think so the guy went over like an area where he wasn't supposed to be. Yeah, there's another area that's supposed to be between him and that cage. That makes sense. Probably for this exact reason. 100%. The orangutan was well within its right. Oh, absolutely.

Exactly. Exactly. Absolutely. If you're jumping the fence into a zoo enclosure, whatever happens to use on you. What are you doing, by the way? Like, you think it's going to give you a high five? Start over. Go at the very beginning.

He jumped the fence to taunt the orangutan for social media. clout. Yep. He wanted a high five. He wanted a high five. I mean, he's lucky, too. Like, this is just a serve. Nobody ended up getting hurt. I mean, maybe that guy had some bruising. Yeah, I would think so, especially when it's pulling him against the fence. Deserved. Deserved. But I will say this. I have a theory, a working theory that primates, um, and this gets, this goes away with humans as they get older, but they cannot resist biting toes. My kid was. You. You can't. You can't. You You bite your children's toes. Well, he awakened this old, I think, subconscious thing that I had in me.

I want to bite his feet off. Well, because it does feel like if you sunk your teeth and you could take one off. You could eat one. Yeah. A little bone in there. And it's perfect size snack. Oh, yeah. It's good for that picnic basket.

Yeah. All right. Let's go, Kyle. One more. One more. All right. This one's 10 points, by the way. Okay.

All right. It seems. Oh, Forrest. No, I'm winning. I did not fart. But you are. winning. It's probably 86 degrees. I know. We're almost, we're good.

Last one here. Let's make it. Ten points. Blahage. Blahage. This is most certainly a piece of furniture. I know what this is. No, you don't. I believe so. I think this is a IKEA toilet. I like that.

The sound of it, it's the best guess of the night. What was cream sauce again? A crib. Okay, so this is. No, that was the snob. Euler. Oh, your cream sauce was the light. You're right. You're right.

So this is a floor lamp. Okay. That's it. This is a floor lamp. That's good. Blahaj is a toilet. It makes so much sense to me. It's the only thing I think of now.

Okay. Just to piggyback off of Patrick in case he was close, but not all the way there. It's a bidet. Does I key sell? They probably don't sell toilets either. Probably not. What is a Blahaj? Blahage is a shark toy.

Shark plushie. Oh my God. So that was a trick question? Basically. I don't know. It's terrible. Plushy. Terrible.

Cut this out. I might buy one of those. Plushy. My kids got two of them. Is it that big? No. All right. I like it.

By the way, I like the Blahaj. I like the Blahj. It looks fun. I'm actually going to order one. I think this is a fun podcast. When IKEA hears this, you will get nothing in the mail. Peter, do the thing. Well, first of all, I'm just going to say it again.

Again, if you signed up through Apple or iOS, the Apple store, please cancel that. Go on through a desktop browser and sign up through Patreon through there. Apple takes like 30%. It's wild. It's ludicrous. You know, just it's, I don't know if you don't know that or not. But anyways, wild times. Dot club forward slash info.

Thank you for all the support you have given us over the past five years. We do six podcasts every single month and you can get them all ad free. Just Spotify. Apple. Go there. Do it. If you're still listening, comment, blah haj. Don't go to Apple.

Dude, no problems here, mate. Nah, come on, don't do that. That's mine. Enjoy more ways to save at Ralph's, like low prices in every aisle. And when you download the Ralph's app, you can clip and save more with digital coupons every week. Plus, you can earn fuel points to save up to $1 per gallon at the pump. At Ralph's, you can enjoy more ways to save and more rewards every time you shop. So it's always easy to save big every day with savings and rewards. Ralph's SoCal for over 150 years.

Savings may vary by state. Fuel restrictions apply. See site for details. What's the difference between butter and butter made from real California dairy? It's the real California farm families behind it. Real people. Real care. Real intention.

Why? Because real matters. So whether you're pouring milk, melting of cheese, or just grabbing one more spoonful of yogurt, keep it real. Look for the seal. Real California milk by real California farm families. All right, everybody.