Wild Times: Wildlife Education - This Is The Mongolian Death Worm - The Wild Times Ep. 143

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

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I know what you're going to say. No, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Here we go. We're in the studio. What a treat. Because if I wasn't, I'd be at Costco with my wife and two children.

I'm sure they're screaming. I already got a text about how my one son ran a shopping cart over somebody's foot. He's a feral. He's a feral. I was in a J.C. Penny's one. when I was about 15. Remember when those existed kids? Yeah.

And this little kid, he's probably five, was walking, holding his mom's hand, and he just wound up and punched me in the nuts as hard as he could. And the mom saw it and didn't say anything. Yeah. He didn't say like, hey, little Tim,

you didn't give him a little... What a chap on the butt? You got to smack your kid across the face for that. Stop it. He punched a stranger in the nuts. The fact that the mom didn't say anything is banana. Yeah, because in my shoes, and I haven't done our intros yet, but I don't care. In my shoes, I can a thousand percent see my son doing that, but he also knows I'd beat the crap out of him.

Like, I'd grab and be like, what's it matter with you? Yeah, you know, I remember when he slapped you at the zoo? What did I do? They punched you, because you took away his popcorn? What did I do? I don't remember. It was just like, you were like, stern, you're going to get the stern discipline now, boy. Yeah.

Like, you didn't like, you know, slap him or spank him or anything. but, like, you could tell, like... He's shook in his little boots. Yeah. Now, let me ask a question real punch you in the face. Yeah, I mean, he's a lunatic. Is it pinching abuse if you pinch? Well, I told you my pinching story, right?

I don't think that's abuse, so... To get out of the speeding ticket? Yeah. Yeah, it's a good one of my proudest moments. It's genius. Yeah, okay. By the way, that was on the way. I don't know if I ever told you this part of the story,

to the fat tire house in Vail. Oh, that's where that happened. We landed in Denver, and it was like 10 o'clock at night, driving to Vail, and I did the little... pinch my son to get out of the speeding, take a trick. It's genius. It's genius. We normally kick off with what's in the news wildlife related outdoor adventure stuff, but I'm going to hijack this for a minute. Okay. Should I intro us or are we too? We're too deep. Okay. They know. Kyle's like, don't do it. If they don't like us, they've turned it off. Yeah,

get out of here. In fact, turn it off right now. Stop listening. No, don't. Don't. Don't do that. Peter hates what I do that. So it did come to my attention that there has been a a rash, a wave in Washington State of Sasquatch sightings that had happened in the last couple weeks. Oh, really? Recent. A bunch of reports, hikers, a family where the kids said, what's that? And it appeared to be a large primate-like thing, eight to nine feet tall. So, yeah, in the last couple weeks, there's been a big wave of Sasquatch sightings in Washington State Forest. Okay.

Is there any evidence? That's what I'm wondering. I wonder if there's some pictures, some videos. I assume there's more to the story. Like Pat's going to say, they figured out that. No, no. It's just a bunch, there's been a bunch of reports, people reporting it to, like, the park rangers and things like that.

What's the probability that it is Sasquatch? Well, okay. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. I guess what I was going to say is, since we don't have evidence that a Sasquatch exists, I'm still holding out hope. I would love if before I die, it comes out and there's like, yep, holy sure. Shit. That would be cool. Let me ask you this.

What major movies are in the news right now? Dune. Dune. What else? Beetlejuice. Okay. I just watched the new Wonka movie. But it was streaming. Nobody's heard of that.

I stopped watching. Godzilla versus Kong, the 19th one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Planet of the Apes, the newest one. Is that in the news? Yep, yep. They've just announced it. Okay.

So take all that into account. All the monkey stuff. Now take into account the fact that it's what time of year. What are your kids on right now? Spring break. Spring break. Spring break. Spring break.

Yeah. James Franco. Yeah. It's great with the hair. And also, what is happening in Washington right now that hasn't been the case in four months? Washington State? Washington State. It's nice out.

Right. People are going outside. Ah, interesting. Put all those factors together and you have a bunch of idiots reporting Bigfoot sightings is what I'm saying. Come on, it could be legit, dude. I truly believe that we have cryptids crawling all over this world. So you're saying no way that it could be somebody's pet chimp that got released? I mean, yes, if it's more likely to be that than Bigfoot.

But I'm saying more like little Timmy was on YouTube consuming hours of Planet of the Ape trailers and then went out for a hike with mom and dad on spring break. It's the first sunny day in four months. It goes, there's a monkey. And then dad's a fucking drunk. lunatic and goes into the news and goes, my son saw Bigfoot. If Bigfoot is not real, how are there five plus seasons of shows searching for him where people continue to watch? And how many have they found? Well, also, it's, it's determined. I don't know if you

know this or not, Peter, but Patrick will tell you this in our early days of extinct or alive. I remember this well, I'm sure Patrick does too, but I remember one of the main comments, which was on a call that I just sat very quietly and listened to Patrick. our other partner, Eric Handel, and they go, well, what if you never find anything? And Patrick speaks up and goes, and how many Bigfoot have they found in the six seasons of finding Bigfoot? And the executive literally went, good point. Yeah. Most popular show on Discovery, by the way. Yeah. And at that time, it was still airing. Yeah. And a really funny anecdote to that, that I still remember, this was back when I used to take internet criticism seriously.

Right when Extincter Alive premiered was when they canceled finding Bigfoot. Yeah. And there was a Twitter thread. You know, I had like nine Twitter followers at the time. And there was a Twitter thread that tagged me that had 150 comments or tweets or whatever. Yeah. That was like, this is the dumbest show in history. They're never going to find. And it was, sorry, I should have explained this.

There was a Twitter thread started by the Finding Bigfoot fan base that literally all piled on going, this is the stupidest show ever to replace Finding Bigfoot. They're never going to find anything. That is shot. I was like, wait a minute. I have a theory on why these shows work, and I'm sure that you know much better than I do, but I watch these shows sometimes,

and it's really about watching adults get to go live out childhood fantasies. They're exploring, they're setting up, like, hunting things. They're repelling across up and down walls. They're doing all kinds of crazy shit, and they have fun technology to do it with, fleer cams, all kinds of night vision. And it's like you never have to find them because you can see like some kind of one of the producers can go stand behind a tree and peek around it in Flurvision.

That looks really cool. Well, let me ask you this forest as the naysayer of Sasquatch. Yeah. If Sasquatch wasn't real, why did a call come in last week to. He's already laughing at his own very stern point. No, the Stevens County Sheriff in Washington received a phone call. Okay. It was a gentleman who asked whether or not it was illegal in Stevens County to shoot a Sasquatch.

And if his regular hunting license was enough for him to kill a Sasquatch. He also added that he would promise not to shoot a female Sasquatch that he would only shoot a male. I love that this is all documented, by the way. Yeah. So why would that have happened if Sasquatch wasn't real? No, it wouldn't. You've completely undermine my point, and I'm wrong. That's proof. I love how he's

not going to shoot a female, because he definitely can tell the difference. One's got a nice big cock. Oh, my goodness. Lovely. Yeah, lovely, big cock. By the way, that call came from one of those people on that Twitter thread years ago that you were talking about just now. Seriously.

Seriously. Well, I think that's where those guys lived. But I love this stuff. It illuminates the imagination, dude. It's like aliens. It's like aliens. I'm sold on aliens. I believe that there's something out there. And that's what it is. It's plausible curiosity that is not too overboard.

Like, it could be real. It's not like flat earth. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, it's got a plausableness to it that keeps it exciting. All right. So let me riddle you this. Riddle me, please.

What's the biggest movie in theaters at the moment? I know we just sort of asked that question. I actually don't know. I have no idea. I've been in the movies in 10 years. Dude, I'm big. in the sci-fi, you must be talking about Dune. By far. Yeah, it's crazy.

Yep. We'll get this. What what's the big creature in Dune? Sandworms, right? Right. Or whatever they call them. I don't know what they've, I haven't seen Dune 2 yet, but yeah. Have you seen it? No, no. I read the book and I did not like it. Oh, apparently it's like the greatest movie ever kind of thing. People get very angry in the sci-fi realm when you say

it sucks. Anyway, as the naysayer of cryptids in the group here, I just learnt that the inspiration for the animals, the big sandworms in the movie Dune, come from a known cryptid. Did you know this? No, no idea. Kyle, give us a Mongolian deathworm. Kyle, for one dollar, give us a Mongolian death worm.

I love that name already. Pretty nice, huh? Pretty nice. Take a look at this. Yeah, I was just, I sat next to someone on a plane who spent an hour and a half telling me about this that I didn't want to hear about. Wow, look at this thing. This is like a known cryptid, the Mongolian.

Deathworm. This is a big one. I love this thing. Is that not the Dune creature? It is. Right? It is. It's also the tremors creature from that movie.

Star Wars. Yeah. With the rotating mouth. A hundred percent. Floody thing. Yeah. Kyle, go to like, let's get some facts here. What's the story of the Mongolian?

I know it. It's, I believe it's in Mongolia. Good guess. Yeah. So reports of Mongolian death worm known as Ologai Kohorkii. Nice. In Mongol. I don't know.

Perfect. Yeah. That's definitely how you say it. In Mongolian folklore have existed for, many, many centuries. The first written accounts came by Westerners. Oh, really? So isn't that interesting, right? In other words, Westerners went there in the early 1920s, and there was an explorer named Roy Chapman Andrews, who mentioned it in his book on the Trail of Ancient Man when he first went to Mongolia to study, like, the people, actually, the anthropology of it all. And according to local

legend, the creature is said to live in the Gobi Desert and possesses a deadly venom, and it's a giant worm that lives under the sand. What's the plausibility of this forest? This could exist, honestly. Well, here's... I've always said this, and I'll always continue to say this. All of these crypted creatures are founded in some kind of an animal, like an origin story. Sure.

Right. Kyle, pull up a Kenyan sand boa. Okay. All right. Let's see this big sand boa. Maybe go to a video so you can understand it. Look at this animal. Well, this doesn't look like the Mongolian. Death World.

Just calm down because there's going to be some nerd talking about on YouTube here. But the point is, it's our nerd. It's Clint. It's our favorite nerd. Yeah. Clint is literally right. His demeanor. Dude, he's so great.

He's great. Professor Clint. Okay, well, I was hoping you'd see one borrowing and digging in the sand. That's what I'd hoping you'd see. Okay. But my point is it's probably founded in something like this. So these sand boas live entirely under the sand. Kyle, see if you can find one borrowing, because it's actually pretty remarkable.

Is that borrowing or burrowing? No, borrowing money. Borrowing. Is that what I said? It is. Well, I'm sticking with it. Out of space. And out of space.

And yeah, you know, I think something like the Mongolian death worm is founded in the origin of something like this. Like, imagine you're out traversing the desert and you see a three foot long chodey snake pop out of the sand. It is a chode, is it? It's a total chode. And it pops out of the sand, slithers, and then dives back into the sand. Yeah. And you're like, holy shit, I just saw a sand death worm. Yeah, right? It's a snake. You know snakes are typically venomous. These ones are harmless, but you know they're deadly, right? Like, that's a known thing. Snake's bad. And then you see it pop out of the sand and pop back in and borrow. And you tell Jimmy to the left and you go, there was a three foot snake, you know, death worm. You know, there was a three foot snake. He tells Fred on the right who's like, there was a five foot snake. Yeah, yeah. And before you know it, by the time they get back to the village, there's, you know, a hundred and twenty foot long death. It's telephone. It's the game telephone. Pull, pull that animal up again. Mongolian deathworm!

When Andrews went there, he said that the locals told him that it looked, it looked like a sausage, was two to five feet long, and looked much like a lizard with no arms or legs. Tell me. I mean, that's basically a Kenyan sandbag. That's exactly a Kenyan Sandbar. For God's sakes, find a video of this thing borrowing. You're killing me here. He's tired. He's also dying laughing.

Can I have a little aside of Kyle's story? Yeah. So last night, he comes here. He goes, hey man, uh, don't. Don't get scared. I'm coming to the office. Don't get scared. Don't watch me is what he was saying. Yeah. And I said, watch this. Watch this real quick. While we talk, look at how it just dives. I mean, this is the worst video. It's literally a worm-sized snake going into a kiddie pool. Anyway, sorry, tell me, tell me. I shouldn't stop you for that. Kyle, I'm like, Kyle, feel free to unplug that camera. I don't want to spy on you. But he didn't unplug it all the way. And so the audio was still coming through. And I obviously wanted to take a listen. Yeah. No joke. Kyle is. bright red. If you could see Kyle's face right now. I tried to give him the audio

to play to he refused. Yeah. Literally, I just, I couldn't tell if he was working out or masturbating. What do you think, Peter? Kyle, did you finally bring a date over? No, of course not. He refused to play it on air, so I'll try and get it in the video.

Kyle, when are you bringing a date to the studio? When I find one. That's a pretty good answer. If we have any Sistner's in Thousand Oaks. Yeah. DM Kyle, what's your DM? It's at Forst Glante.

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I got another one of those that's interesting too. What is that? You want to hear about it? I do. The banion? Oh, the binnip? You know about this? Yeah, Australia.

Yeah. Look at this thing. So there's this creature. What is it? Bunyip. Bunyp. I only just, you know, you can start clicking and then there's the wormhole. Well, what you do, and I think I know where you're going to go with this, is you like to look at folklore and cryptids and then figure out what you think it might have been based on.

Right, exactly right. The justification for it. Yeah, this is part of Australian Aboriginal folklore. Yeah, so why don't we do this? You know it better than I do, but I know what I think it may have a very slim possibility been founded by. So why don't you explain the creature and then I'll explain where you can come from. but yeah, it's, you know, rooted in Aboriginal folklore in Australia, and it's this sort of like, it pops out of the water, but it's furry.

And there's different depictions where it kind of almost has like a seal-like body. Go to that other picture, Kyle. So the one, yeah, that one or even the fourth one. That one does exactly what I'm talking about. The fourth one as well. Yeah. So it's a four-legged sort of mammalian-looking thing, but it comes up out of the water.

and it fucking eats you. Yikes. Looks like a ass webtoe. We know that everything tries to kill you in Australia, so it fits right in. I know where you guys are thinking I'm going to go with this. What's the animal I always like to talk about in that part of the world? Thylacine. Right.

Oh, no. No, no. I'll feed you baby birds, but it's not that. Water thylacine. Pretty much. So, Kyle, type in thylocalio. Oh, it is another thylio. Thylokolio.

So check out this animal. So while the thylacine was the marsupial wolf, This creature, the thylacolio, was the marsupial lion. This was like the feline-y version, if you would. How cool is this creature? Also, by the way, that one? Cute. Yeah, that's, that's like a little beat.

Go to the second picture. Okay, go to that picture right there. Now go back to our bunyip. Let's see. Bunyip. Come on. Yeah. It's close.

Absolutely. When, Kyle, go to the info on the bunyp. When was it first described? I'm curious if that's written there at all. 1890. 1890 is the first illustration. When was thylocalio driven to? I'm pretty sure it's before human settlement.

But the point is it probably might, let's see, when was thylocalio driven to extinction? But imagine this, this is what I'm getting at. Imagine you're the very first settlers to Australia, human settlers coming across from Australasia, Indonesia area, right, and popping down into Australia. And you cross paths with the thylocalio. This was 40,000 years ago that the thylocalio went extinct. So not that long ago. But imagine you're, what, now look.

this up, because I should have done this before bringing it up, but I think it's interesting. When were the first human beings set foot on the continent of Australia? You think it's going to be close to 40? Even if it's not, like, look at that. 65,000 years. Look at that. 40,000 years ago. Imagine coming across stepping foot on Australia. Indigenous Australian, 65,000 years. There you go. So for 20,000 years, these things were living alongside human beings. And I'm not saying that, you know, maybe they, maybe they actually went extinct 30,000 years ago.

I'm not saying they're still thylacolio. I don't believe that. Right. But what I am saying is this bunyip or whatever is likely founded in Aboriginal folklore generations and generations ago and has been passed down through oral tradition and cave paintings and drawings and everything else for 40,000 years. And morph from a real living incredible creature, this, this, you know, marsupial lion into the bunyip, which is like, oh, if you're not careful.

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What a fucking shame that that's not still around. Right. Isn't that incredible? How big was that thing? Big, like way bigger than the thylacine. Wow. Like the size of a lion? No, no, not quite that big. But yeah, 1.8 meters.

So whatever that is. So there's the thylacoleal. There's a thylacolio. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's cool looking. Yeah. It looks, yeah, marsupia. It looks much more marsupial-like than the thylacine does. That's true. Yeah. Well, like I said, they call the thylacine the marsupial wolf and they call the thylacoleo the lion. Can you call your buddies at a what's that company? Colossal. Biosnors. Have them bring thylacolia back. I just got the shirt on right now. I do. I like to domesticate. I just got to keep prodding them like, hey, yeah, yeah, we need thylacine. But when you're done with that, you know. Just gotta keep you to hang out with.

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Yeah. Yeah, so the three announced species right now are in order. It's thylacine, dodo, mammoth. So that's the order that they're coming back. Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Which I think, yeah, are all on this shirt, right?

So there's a dodo, there's a mammoth, there's a thylosylusi. What's the, oh, sorry, go ahead. I was going to say, can we get elephant bird on the list? I sure hope so. You got some sway over there. No, but he's right. I mean, and that's the point of this, right? The real point is colossal bios sciences is a conservation company, which is awesome.

Like they're doing a lot like Northern White Rhino and stuff that still exists. But that doesn't make headlines. The splashy stuff that makes headlines that allows them to get funded is like, hey, we're bringing back a Dodo. And the reason being humans directly drove Dodo to extinction. Humans also directly drove elephant bird, Moa, and Host Eagle to extinction, right? So these are all creatures that should be in the lineup. I don't know if they are. I mean, I talk about things like the thylacine a lot and the mammoth with them.

But these should all be in the lineup one day, which is exciting. What's the, what's the, uh, look at the elephant bird. versus an ostrich. It's crazy. Go to that one. It's like a dinosaur size. That's not an ostrich. What's the timeline on like the first de-extinction coming out of colossal?

Like five years, ten years? I have some proprietary info I definitely can't talk about. It's not five years. Wow. It's a lot less. A lot, lot less. That's exciting, man. Very exciting.

What's the plans for them to do? What's the proprietary info? Yeah, that's what he's getting at totally. I'm not. What's the plan? Like, what are they going to do with this animal once they create it? Are they going to have like a plot of land that they put these? Yeah. So every, I mean, everything that they're planning on doing the extinction with has a whole plan, right?

It's not willy-nilly, like, let's bring it back and throw it in a zoo. It's like, okay, you know, proof of concept, then how many do you bring back, like, test sample? A lot. And then Unleash him in Times Square. Everywhere, yeah. No, but like, you know, sample area, like how long, how long, how. how does the animal behave? Is it learning from other creatures?

You know, like there's a whole rollout for each thing. But I know that doesn't really directly answer your question. But the point is, it is interesting. It's not willy-nilly. It's not just like, oh, let's bring back 20 thylacine and throw them in Tasmania. It's like, no, it's a fenced off area. I'd fund that if I was a bill. Leonardo DiCaprio just did.

Colossal? Yeah, his organization, Rewild, just partnered with them on everything, but like specifically aimed at thylacine and what they've announced, Dodo and Mammoth. That's awesome, man. that's good news in the conservation world right there. Yeah, it's exciting stuff. It really is.

It's fun. I can't wait. When it does come to fruition, like with the first, the extinction, it's just going to be, that's going to be the marker in human history of wildlife science of like a shifting point. You know, you know what kind of like bums me out, though, is knowing that that shift will come and it will be gargantuan. And then because of TikTok and everybody's attention span, it'll be out of the news within week. Oh yeah, 48 hours later, we'll be back to looking at a big bottom and a G-stream. The world is in a sad state. But hey, did you guys hear about this snake that was airmailed back

to its owner after being missing for a year? Sorry, I don't know why I hadn't thought of this sooner, especially when we're sitting here talking about thylene. Can I show, I do want to talk about that. I know the news story. Can I show you guys something amazing? Of course. You probably saw me hiding it, but look at it. Oh, yeah, dude. The paintong. Look at this. Let's see this. Luis McNaught, the artist. Oh, dude. She did this for us for the studio. That's incredible.

How gorgeous is this. What's her name? Luis. Luis. Yeah, McNaught, I think, is how it's pronounced. Kyle, pull up her Instagram. It's freaking awesome. Dude, I'm no artist, but I really like the style of this painting.

Isn't it cool? I don't know, but we're definitely going to be hanging it. But, like, how cool is it? It's like the thylacine is subtle. And then like the cool color art bits around it. I don't know. It's just the wet nose. The wet nose always gets me.

Dude, so shiny. I just want to give him a little kiss. I know, dude, right? Yeah. Such a cool looking painting. Anyway, huge thank you to Luis for this. I mean, it's such a beautiful painting. It's so cool for the studio. It's obviously something we talk about a lot.

So that was the right time to bring it up. I just didn't want to move on in story. Absolutely. That painting is amazing. Yeah, and if you guys haven't seen, you know, and obviously this is a plug for her because her art's amazing and she made this for us. But please go check her out. I follow her on Instagram and she does a bunch of really cool art,

critically endangered animals. Do you have the giant dildo under your chair that somebody sent you that you're going to show everybody to? That's for personal use. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's not for that. Well, moving on. What's in the news, Kyle?

What's in the news? Do it. What's in the news? Okay. Doing all our little jingles for us. I love that guy. So good. Yeah, so I've been excited.

I don't get excited about many news stories. You guys are the one who go through it, pick them out. this one, I was like, this is bananas because the headline said that a snake got airmailed back to its owner after a year. And I was like, what? So it turns out that a snake had gotten loose, a three foot long corn snake was missing for an entire year out in England. Spennymore.

Spennymore. Was it Spennymore? So it's an escape, a typical pet escape. And a year later, the snake gets drunk. by a crow into the owner's backyard a year later. Can you believe this? Not really. That is a one in a billion.

This is a pet snake who endured the cold temperatures over the winter and just actually got dropped onto the garage roof. That's hilarious. At the same place. It's absolutely insane. This just proves a how goddamn smart birds, particularly crows are. You think the crow brought it back? He's like, you're lost.

He's like, you're lost? Yeah. There's no way. He probably picked it up. It got away. And then he was like, you know what? This snake deserves to live. This should really be a Disney movie.

Yeah. Right? Like from the POV of the snake and he escapes and then he's lost and he wishes he hadn't done it. It's genius. And then he spends a half a year out in the wilds of England meeting British animals with top hats and monocles. He talks to cookies. Yeah. It's a nice crow.

A corn snake gets out the front door, out the back door. whatever. How big would a corn snakes range be living in the suburbs? Like a yard or two? No, no, they could travel far. I mean, I would say easily 10 square mile radius. Really? Easily. Yeah. Oh, I thought they're just like burrowed and they're like, no, they're cruising. So corn snakes live in Illinois, you know, like and a bunch, well, actually, are they in Illinois? It might be slightly further south. But yeah, all the way down to the southeast. And so they can endure very harsh climates. Like they're, you know, they can go through a midwestern winter. Yeah.

So, you know, it makes sense that it could survive in rainy, cold, freezing England. Yeah, and they burrow to stay warm, I assume. Yeah, they'll go underground during the winter and all of that. But yeah, no, I mean, in the spring and summer, when they're out looking for prey, they'll go and go and go. They could easily cover 10 square miles. So he got out. He obviously didn't, by the way. He obviously wasn't 10 miles away.

He was probably a quarter mile away. Right. He might have been. In the movie rendition, he was. All right. All right. So how about this? how big of a range do crows cover?

That one we could probably Google. I mean, definitely large. But they do, they have home territories. Right. And they like, you know, they know where they're at. Crows don't make nests, do they? They do. Yeah, they do.

Okay. Kyle, so the crow is out cruising around. Sees a three-foot snake. It says range is generally zero to 60 kilometers. So what's that? That's 30-ish miles. I think it's, isn't kilometer? I'm not even an, yeah.

It sounds so down. 25 miles. 25 miles. Yeah. All right. So the crow's out cruising. The snake's, let's say two blocks away. Mm-hmm.

He survived a year doing his thing. Picks it up. The snake's struggling. It's a big snake, three feet. Drops it onto the roof of the garage. Yeah. Interesting. So to be clear, the crow was not helping the corn snake.

He was trying to eat the corn snake. I'm well aware of this. Just wanted to make sure everybody listing because I don't think we address that was like, ooh, a big bright orange. candy cane treat. Like it was a friendly. And then by the way, like corn snakes, Kyle, while we finish this up,

scroll, it's way back on my Instagram, but you'll see a coiled up orange snake trying to bite the Jesus out of me, maybe in the reels probably. That'll probably be faster. They can be relentlessly awful. Really? Yeah.

And it's funny because they're one of the most popular snakes in the pet trade. Because they're beautiful, they're common, they're easy. And most of the time, ones that you hand raise or play with are super docile. But a wild corn snake is a nightmare creature.

Like it will just lunge and bite and be super violent. Like they're terrible to catch. What do these guys eat? Mostly, mostly rodents. Yeah, okay. Keep going down, Kyle. We'll look here. They're not eating like, are all snakes carnivores? Uh, yes. They don't eat corn though.

No. Dude, I just, I was just thinking I could use one of these corn snakes in my heart. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. So this is on you could pet. What's that fancy place in Is this slow-mo? South Carolina. What's that island with all the golf Hilton Head? Yes, this is Hilton Head, South

Carolina. Oh, my goodness. Explain what's going on here. He goes right at your face. So I saw him in this bush exactly where he is and went in to try and pick him up and he lunged at me exactly like you're doing and then I said to Jess grab my phone, I'm going to make him do it again. So I blow on him here just

because I wanted to show people how far they can lunge. But look at that. Wow. Also because you're an idiot. No, it's fun. No, I know. It's fun. Oh, I thought you were saying he's an idiot because he was wearing khaki shorts. Yeah, great luck. Kyle, I sent you a little picture via email just because we were talking about whether or not crows make nest. Have you guys seen this picture right here?

This is a nest that some bird has made. That's awesome. Explain what we're looking at. Sure. Well, I know what we're looking at. We're looking at a musky or maybe a pike, but probably a musky fish that's got stuck in a tree, probably either from receding flooding or more likely a fisherman like chucking it in a tree. Okay. And then it's dried out and died, creating a cavernous mouth in amongst its

jaggedly sharp teeth in the tree. And there's a family of robins nesting in it in its mouth. Bro, if you are not watching this podcast, this is one of the craziest things ever seen. The fish has the teeth, sharp-ass teeth still intact, like barbs around the nest to protect it. Pretty solid. It's a great nest. Like another bird comes by. It's not coming. near this.

No way. It thinks it's going to get eaten. Straight up. Wild, dude. Yeah. Wild times. Wild times. It is cool.

It's funny is, I think Edwin sent that picture in our group chat. It was me, but. Oh, sorry. You sent that picture in our group chat,

and it was on the phone, so I just looked at it, and I didn't get it. I was like, okay, there's a fish in a tree. Yeah. I didn't realize until right now there was a family of birds

in its mouth. Here's, here's what I love about you, Forrest. I actually sent it, and in the text, it says, the most probable,

most probable explanation is a fish jump for a bug in the tree, got stuck and died in a badass bird, thought it would make a great nest. And I put that there with the picture. You did. It's hard to get the attention of people. I'm not a reader. Words are hard. I also don't.

The WhatsApp thing is tough for me. I don't quite get the interface. I don't quite get it. It's a text thread. How do you not get the interface? It's just different. The green. Well, what do you prefer?

Oh, speaking of the green. Have you seen that lawsuit? No, why? You guys don't know what I'm talking about? This is hilarious. Okay, there is a, like, massive lawsuit where Android users, aka our idiot friend over here,

are suing out, hear me out why. That's why I'm singling you out. No, I'm with them already. I know what you're going to say. They're suing Apple because it's, it's,

I think it's defamation of their product or something like that. Kyle will find the title in a second here because of the green bubble versus blue bubble. Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. You know what I'm talking about, right? Of course. When I send you a text, it's blue because we have iPhones like normal adults.

When we send him a text, it goes green and goes through about 10% of the time and you can't add an attachment. You can't send a picture. Intentionally by Apple and they should be sued. It's utter bullshit. There it is. Green bubble shaming at play in the DOG suit against Apple. And it's because they're claiming, by the way, they're claiming in the lawsuit, because I just read the brief overview of it. They're claiming in the lawsuit that it's specifically targeting like poor financial minority groups because they're

can afford iPhones, so they're making them feel ostracized by having a green bubble. The Android phones are just as expensive. No, they're not. You can get, so there's only one iPhone. I mean, there's like three iPhone versions, but the minimum one you pay what, like $600 bucks for? Anyways, I have no idea. Android, you can get a $100 decent Android.

That's not a flagship phone works perfectly, except that when you're on any group text with any iPhone asshole and you, and anybody, Even the other iPhone users try to send any video or anything. It makes it a tiny, shitty, like video you can't see. So you're like, this is why I move to WhatsApp. I'm like, hey, let's talk on WhatsApp or signal. But here's the thing. I'm behind them 100%.

I'm not. I'm not. And I'll explain why. It's just software. I want to point out, this is not a bunch of goons. This is the United States federal government suing Apple. It's hilarious. The Department of Justice. Yeah, the DOJ.

The DOJ, baby. It's crazy. behind them. But I don't get it. The whole point is it's software. I'm sending Pat a message and it's blue. It's an I message. It's not a text message.

It's a different thing. It's the other elements that we're talking about. It's not. So, yes, Green Bubble shaming is the click. That's what gets the click for the article. The lawsuit, I'm sure, talks about all these other things that I'm talking about, which is the fact that they intentionally make it a poor user experience. Yeah, it's terrible.

To be in a message thread with any Android users. It's BS, bro. I'll see you in court because I'm going to keep shaming you. I'll be right behind the DOJ, baby. So my fantasy football thread used to have everybody in the league. Yeah, all blue. No, it wasn't. Not all blue until they kicked out the Android user.

I was going to say. A new thread without one guy who lives in Springfield, Massachusetts. You have to. Was just we started a new thread without them. You literally have to do. It's too frustrating. You have to, it's so frustrating. You have, you cut.

send attachments, PDFs, videos, links work half the time. You have to do it. You're right. And Apple does that intentionally. I can't believe you're standing behind this bullshit. I'm with it. I'm with it. By the way,

I want everybody to weigh in in the comments on this shit because it's the most triggering shit that I have talked about on this pod in years. But yet you won't. Just buy an iPhone. Hell no, dude. I buy a beautiful, faster, better software. I have the ability to download any apps I want.

I'm not locked into a shit. shitty-ass ecosystem. I'm not a dumb-dum. I know how to actually use phones and computers. iPhones are made for dumb-dums who have no better use than to watch porn and jerk it. Have you tried the experience, though, on an iPhone? The surround sound from your AirPods. Oh, God, you got to buy AirPods now. And there's hundreds of other wireless phones that are cheap. They're only a thousand dollars. Jesus. Get out of my face. But listen, I mean, it's a good product. I'm not going to bash. I'm not going to bash Apple, but they do some shady-ass-ass- shit and this is one of the things.

The product is nice. I'm not going to deny that. Apparently they're going to start implementing iMessage on Androids, but still green. As long as as they keep it green. I do want the segregation. I'm okay with the segregation. I'm okay with the segregation. I need to know if somebody has a shit phone.

If they fix the fact that I could send a normal size damn video, that's not all pixelated to a group text. I've overheard one of my wife's single friends saying that you know, she's like doing the dating app stuff and that she

bailed on a guy because of the green. Oh, straight up. I don't doubt it all. By the way, bullet dodged on that bitch. Fuck her, dude. Oh, yes. It's, I mean, there's a reason why she's 36 and single. Yeah, it's for sure. Biggest eye roll

of my life. No wonder you're fucking single. Dumbass. Kyle, clip this out and send it to yeah, to Christina. I don't know who she is, but you know, based on this, I'm glad that whoever she was talking do doesn't ever have to talk to her again. Dodged a bullet. Wow. Red flag.

I've never seen of this fired up, I don't think. No, no. It's a hot button thing. Dude, I cannot, and we will move on, I cannot just so you know, send you a message that has a video and photo together. Bro. It can't send. There has been times in our professional

relationship when we're trying to accomplish business things that will progress the company where you won't get my text for two days. Oh, yeah, regularly. You'll get mad or like, like, that's a miscommunication. It's literally destroying businesses. Do you remember that?

Yes, I do. You never sent it to me. And I was so mad at you. You sent me a screenshot. It was on like a Friday and the message came in on like a Wednesday the following week. I remember this. And I was like, and you sent a screenshot and I was like in my head, fuck, he just deleted the messages. That's all I did.

And then you saw it three days later. Yes. No, I know it's real now. That was the first time that I realized that iPhone intention. destroys business and personal relationships. So something came to my attention today. Yes. That was also ruining businesses.

Oh. On Easter Sunday. Also my birthday. Right here. Just happy belated. Thanks. Oh. Yeah.

Known each other for 10 years. That's okay. I have no. No idea when anyone's birthday is. In Android, you can put a reminder that reminds you in the text thread. That sounds nice. But on Easter Sunday, there was a high. A very cool heist.

A bunny heist. A bunny heist. It was not Easter eggs and it wasn't marshmallow peeps. I definitely thought he was going that way. Yeah. Peeps for sure. Yeah. So some criminals.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right near here up in a little suburb of L.A. called Selmar. Okay. I didn't know these places existed. But you know how you see you like Brinks trucks and cash trucks? Sure. I know that go around and collect cash, right? Armed guards.

Yep. There's a, there are facilities that those trucks. then bring the cash to, and they, for a short period of time, store the cash. Before it then goes to banks or whatever. I don't know exactly how it works. Dumbest thing I've ever heard. So this depository is sitting on $30 million of cash. Wow.

Right? I like where this is going. I hope they got away. They fucking did. They have no idea. There's no evidence except that they went in through the roof. Okay. of the building, completely avoiding any cameras.

No way. Into the vault. Holy shit. Out. One alarm was triggered, but it was not connected to local law enforcement. No way. So it's like the equivalent of like you've got ADT, but you don't pay the extra 10 bucks. Right, right, right, right.

Yeah. This is 30 million. Bro. This is like Ocean's 11 shit. This is crazy. This is why insurance companies are leaving California. I mean, like the insurance company is going to. to be dealing with this $30 million loss because some asshole didn't pay his ADT bill.

Let's, yeah, go ahead. Let's paint a picture here. Okay. What's, we'll start with you, Peter. What's your hypothetical as to how this went down? Who's the guy, like, does he work at the company for 10 years? Is this a hood rat? Is this a lawyer from down the road who figured it out? Does he work in the security company?

Did he get nine friends? Like, let's paint a picture as to how we think this went down. Well, you just painted Ocean's 11 as the picture. And I do think that it would be slightly similar. It's an inside job. Somebody knows or stalked and knows the entire schedule and watched and watched and watched. But knowing that you could go in through the roof and not and figure out how to not be detected, they must have had access to the security floor plans or whatever.

Yeah, I mean, this is the makings of a movie, right? I mean, I read the, I read a couple articles on it and the LAPD spokesman say, you know, this is definitely like a highly experienced crew. Oh, they did. They announced that. Oh, yeah. Like, 30 million in cash, dude. I mean.

But listen to this, right? Oh, good, good, good. I think it's teenagers. I'm not even fucking kidding. I swear to God, I do. Are you kidding me? No, I'm dead serious. You're a mental person.

I think it's someone like 18 to 23 with one friend, two of them. They figured it out. Their dad worked at 80T for 10 years or something like that. They're a little bit of strange. They heard this. And they're like, fuck it. Let's go through the roof. And they just got lucky.

Wow. The fact that the law didn't go off is pretty lucky. It triggered one. And it didn't go to anybody. It didn't go to anybody. But it evokes. So it's the biggest cash heist in the history of Los Angeles, 30 mil. Congrats.

I'm stoked for the people. Well, so Jesus. They're referencing something that happened two years ago in 2022. And they're like, oh, could it be the same crew? Could it be the same crew? What happened two years? 20, 22. Listen to this shit. Yeah.

A hundred million, a fucking single truck was transporting a hundred million dollars worth of diamonds. Oh my gosh. That had gone to the international gem and jewelry show. Okay. Wow. One Brinks truck with two drivers. That's crazy.

Pulls up 3 a.m. to a flying J. gas station. One driver's asleep in the cab. the other one goes inside to get a meal 27 minutes while the guy's inside 27 minutes They come in They fucking clear out 100 million dollars worth of diamonds

From the back of the truck Yeah they didn't steal the truck No How wakes up Other guy comes in he's like hey man How's your meatball hoagie It was pretty good Did you take a shit?

Yeah How was your sleep? Terrible at a nightmare Dude Where's the diamonds? Oh fuck Are you kidding me? How on earth did they get into the vehicle without waking the guy up?

Unsolved. Two years later, man. Dude, I love you. How do you get rid of these diamonds in other countries? I suppose you've got to take them elsewhere. No, absolutely not. You just sell them off. Have you been to the diamond district?

Go to any, any. It is so shady. Yeah, 100%. You can go to what does? You're telling me you think that 100 mil in diamonds got stolen. They're just going around L.A. selling pawn shops. I'm not even kidding. Oh, dude, do you go to the diamond district?

Yeah. one in New York or even L.A. Yeah. You go up, you know already who the, by the way, you don't plan a $100 million diamond heist unless you know how you're fencing at. 100%. When you say fence, you mean your exit strategy? What does fencing mean?

Fencing is selling, a fence is a middleman. Yeah. Oh, I got you. Okay. Like laundering. You go up to the guy and you go, here's a photo of diamonds I might have. Right. What would you pay?

Yeah. I'm trying to get 30% of what you will get, right? bro, are you kidding me? If you got to a fucking Kardashian or any of those, like, rich people, Monocito where I live, all those old ladies, you should see the fucking rings on their fingers walking around at luckies and stuff.

Of course they're fucking stolen. Dude, you tell them you can get a $100,000 diamond for 50 grand from you? They're like, yeah, I'm in. No questions asked. I don't care where it came from. They're old fucking blood diamonds anyway. Kyle, I'm going to make a drop right now

and I want you to record this and log it. Where's the animal news? Okay. What are you talking about? No, no, I know. Dude. I've just always wanted that. Okay.

Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. I'm going to, I'm going to sink myself a little bit here with how much I spend on something. But just, she doesn't listen. Fuck it. Don't care. For our 10 year, no, what was it? Five-year wedding anniversary.

He's already bored by this. Well, you don't even know. I'm just annoyed because if he spent a lot of money and then go ahead. I mean, you don't know the difference between 5 and 10, though. Can you just listen to the story? Yes, sorry. without being pricks both you. I'm in a bad mood now.

I went to the little antique store in Summerland. Summerland's got like three big antique stores of where I live. But you went to the little one, so the fourth one. I bought a $600 diamond ring for Jessica, like a band, right? Cubic's our money. It was 600 bucks. And I was like, damn, that seems like a lot. She's like, no, I got it from an estate sale.

It was worth like, you know, like $1,400 bucks, blah, blah, blah. Got it, got it for Jess, gave it to her. She was super stoked. didn't fit. It was too big. So we took it to a jewelers in Santa Barbara named Bryant, which is like a diamond jewelers. They evaluated it. It was worth like $2,400. Oh, really? And I got it for $600. And, you know, so it had, but my point is, it was already worth $2,400. It had gone in an estate sale for like $14 or $12 or whatever, and I got it at this other place for $6. Did you sell it immediately?

No, we kept it. You got it resized, and she's stoked. But I'm just saying, think about that, you can pick up these things at freaking estate sales. You can pick up. up at at yeah diamonds are bulls anywhere dude yeah you can sell them you can offload them a lot of artificial uh what's that word where you we don't have a lot of them artificial scarcity scarcity that's right oh yeah anyway well that's cool i like i hope they i hope they they deserve a movie i like these guys i do too i they deserve a movie i think i think it's definitely the same crew no questions asked they're still teenagers in both cases yeah it's a michael man movie though right it's it's like heat yeah I think I'm these heists.

I feel like your best bet these days is to somehow heist Bitcoin from somewhere. Because it's like nobody's tracking that. The cops don't even care. Just go to jail over that? Well, many people have gone to jail over it. Not apparently, well, the diamond heist seems to be the way to go. The money, the straight cash heist, everybody's getting away with that stuff. I like it.

All right. What else we got? We got news. Wasn't there something else in the news? I'll go back into our news. Oh, sperm whale news. Spirm whale news. Sperm news.

Oh, sweet. Tell us about it. I like this one. Yeah. What happened? I mean, we've seen sperm whales. We know a bit about them. Yeah, they're great.

But we didn't. Stop your heart with their sound. Yeah. At the end of March, a new behavior, a new sperm whale behavior was documented for the first time in Western Australia. It's called defense defecation. Well, that sums it up. Genius.

So sperm whale. is, so it's a pod of sperm whales. I didn't know they traveled in pods. They do. Okay, so you got a bunch of them, right? A bunch of fucking orcas come up. They're like, oh, killer whales.

Yeah, they're like, oh, shit, fuck. That's bad. What do we do? So the entire pod releases simultaneous poop explosion into the water. And then they all get into a defensive circle with their heads together. Okay.

And they used their tails to fan the diarrhea shit out. Is there a video of this, Kyle? To cause a distraction. And it worked. The Orcas were like, I can't see what's going on. This is poop in my eye. By the way, I've seen this in real life.

Really? Yeah. Are you talking about a hippo? No, I can tell you the whole story. Yeah, do. I was at the SFO Bart station. And a homeless guy was screaming and kicking a wall. This is a true story.

Okay. The like Bart police came to remove him and he fell down and shit himself. And they were picking him up and they were like, nope. And they just left him lying there covered in poop. Really? Wow. Yeah. Defensive defecation.

I saw it. Never tell you about the time I saw a guy passed out at the subway station. And I had just taken CPR classes for work. And so I thought a guy. You didn't give them mouth to mouth. I went over there. Well, no, I didn't. But I'll tell you why.

Because I had just taken the CPR class. And you first, you put like, you try to determine if they're breathing. Yeah. And when I went to do that, he was just. fucking stinky, stinky hard booze. I was like, oh, never he's alive. He's just drunk. Just like, oh, never mind. I left. I think it's

really cool behavior. It doesn't surprise me. I mean, sperm whales are incredibly intelligent. Like, they're pretty near the top with orcas. And, I mean, it doesn't surprise me that they have all kinds of defensive mechanisms. I mean, this one's a very gross one, but it makes sense. I mean... Do you think this is... Well, it worked.

Yeah. You think it's a new behavior? Like, they just figured this out? Or do you think... I doubt it. I think it's more likely it just hasn't been documented. I mean, it's so hard to even spot a sperm whale. I mean, sometimes you could see them on whale watches and stuff, but they spend a lot of time really deep. It's not like a gray whale or humpback where you see them more often. So to then see a sperm whale pod getting attacked by orcas is very rare. Very rare. Yeah, it's hard to spot orcas. It's hard to spot sperm whales. That interaction is one in a million to witness as a human being, you know, and then the the fact that it

was a whole pod and not just a single, blah, blah, blah. I think, I think they'd probably been doing it for all of all of history we can you imagine though that you're on a boat for whatever reason you're filming you're on a whale watch and you're like not only seeing a sperm whale but there's a bunch of sperm whales right at the surface you're like oh my god you're like this is once in a lifetime interaction then you see orcas cruising up yeah yeah yeah and you're i mean your head would explode absolutely the way it would unfold and then seeing a poop explosion fan dude there was a that's exactly what happened too there was a hilarious instance in Santa Barbara

about four or five years ago where the Santa Barbara whale watching boat was out and they were looking at a baby gray whale. They're like, oh, cute. And they like brought it right up beside the boat and a pack of orcas came in and it was just a blood bath. Oh my God. I mean like fully ripped it to shreds. Kids are screaming

and crying. There's a bunch of iPhone videos like there's one guy who's like he turns the iPhone and there's all these kids just bursting out in tears because that's like legitimately PTSD trauma. Yeah, it's scarring. Yeah.

Well, you also have to wonder if the boat wasn't there. Would it have happened? Right. Right. Because the gray whale was kind of like, hi, boat. Checking it out. Yeah. Hey, guys, if you like the show, I got good news for you.

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Thank you. We love you. Just do it. Let's. Okay, I think we should play a game. Sure. Yeah? Game time.

Operation. All right. We have a jingle for it. Let's play game. Kyle. Kyle. Yes. Kyle, nine-year-old Kyle.

Hello. You are the host of this show. And we're going to play Factor Fiction. I love this game. Yep. I didn't like that look he gave me when I asked for a jingle. We don't have one. We don't have one?

For Factor Fiction, we don't know. Okay, come on, fella. All right, here we go. Factor fiction. It's very simple. How does it work? Factor fiction. I'm going to read you something.

You guys tell me, is it true or not true? Are you keeping score? I will keep score. Thank you. All right. He's being pretty smug. Did you see? He's true or not true, Pat?

He's on a high horse. All right. All right. The actor fiction. And reptiles can regrow their tails, but they can also regrow their heads if they're decapitated. I'm not sure if they can regrear out of their heads. Can you regrow our tongue? I'm going lost.

We're going, we're going Peter Papfart. I'll go first. Yep. I'm going to say that's ridiculous fiction. Fiction. That is fiction. Who again. Reptiles can regrow tails, but regrowing its head is biologically impossible.

Biogical. Due to the complexity of internal structures like the brain. Okay. Slow down, take a breath. You're really knocking him off of his high horse pretty quick. You really didn't like that lucky guy. Kyle started. I love Kyle. Yeah.

I love Kyle more than I like myself. All right. One point each. All right. Good, good job. Good job. All right. Goody.

I think he's on drugs. Alligators are purely carnivorous and never consume plants or fruits in their diet. Keep going the same way. I'm going to say that this is, oh, that was a hippo. I saw eating a watermelon. I'm going to say that this is. Those are so not close. This is a fact.

I think he's trying to trick us because, you know, they take big bites of stuff and it says plants. They clearly get plants in their mouth while they're eating other shit. So I'm going to say this is fiction. Fiction. It is fiction. Fact! They're primarily carnivores, but they do consume some plants, especially when food is scarce. Okay.

Yeah. They're pretty dumpstery, man. Like, I've seen gators eating, like, mangoes and stuff that roll out of trash cans behind, like, swamp restaurants in Central Florida. They're pretty dumpstery. Like, they'll just kind of eat whatever. Yeah, cool.

Okay. Two for Forrest and Patrick. One for Peter. F off, Kyle. All right. Lizards lay eggs with tough armored shells that can withstand being stepped on or even run over by vehicles.

I mean, I've seen this in, like, movies, but I don't know if it's like, it must, I guess it comes. leathery eggs are a real thing. I'm going to say fact. Yeah, this is a fact. Fiction.

Edwin's answer here is non-conclusive. What, Edwin? What are you doing? Okay, let me step in here. There is no lizard egg that can withstand being run over by a vehicle. What's the vehicle? I guess that's a good thing. If it's a one of those things like a hot wheels, sure. That's what I thought he was doing. But how about, so can they lay eggs with tough armored shells?

It's typically the soft shells and vulnerable to predators. Yeah. What's usually hidden? Is Edwin out of his mind? What did he say? It says lizard eggs are typically soft-shelled and vulnerable to predators. They are usually hidden in underground nests or other protective. So it's fiction.

It's fiction. All right. Let's give Edwin a little help in hand here. Edwin, when you write fact or fiction, just answer with fact or fiction. No, I like the fact. No, the info is good, but he has to give the first word. It needs to be fact or fiction. Correct. Three, two, one is the score.

Yeah. All right. Yep. All right. Next up, amphibians can survive both underwater and on land indefinitely, transitioning between the two without any need for adaptation. I mean, I hate Edwin. This is, yeah, so I mean, of course they could be on land.

Indefinitely. No, that's impossible. Fiction. Fact. Fiction. They need water. It is fiction. They have unique adaptations for both aquatic and terrestrial,

but they cannot switch between environments without indefinitely facing challenges and changes in their physiology. Kyle, you sound like the worst high school teacher when you read the facts. Like Benstein. He's more enthusiastic than most of my high school teachers. Forest fact. All right. Four to two to two.

Four to two. Let's go. All right. Some lizard species have a third eye that attacks change in light and movement. Fiction. It's not technically an eye, so fiction. Yeah, we've got to go three for fiction. I'm going to say fact, isn't he?

It seems fact. Okay, no point. It says it's part of the... Curious what he's going to say here. Epithalamus. Yep. The eye is located at the top of the head. It's photoreceptive and associated with the pineal gland.

Epithalamus and pineal, but yes, otherwise very good. All right, no points awarded. And this is Forrest correcting your pronunciation. That was out of space wild. Yeah, wild time. All right, next. All right, the Great White Shark is the largest shark species in existence. God.

I mean, this is in existence. I'm going to say, I don't know. I mean, it's the only shark. I'm going to say. Take a deep breath. Wait, you're getting, you're getting excited. I want to win the game, but let's talk for a second. Okay, let's talk.

What do I do every summer? Shark one. Go down where? No, that too. But where do I go in the summer? Bahaha. Baja. What's like the one thing I always get excited about going down there?

Greenland sharks. So close. Some kind of shark. Baja shark. We all know this is too easy. It's got to be fiction. That's what I was going to say. Just make it.

I just wanted you to get there on your own. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate. Yeah. It's the whale shark. You want me to win against Pat, don't you? I just could feel you getting angsty.

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When threatened, porcupines shoot out their quills. Fact. Fiction. You've seen a lot of those cartoons, right? That's right. Fact. Fiction. Fact.

It is fiction. That's fact. Isn't that annoying? It is. Yeah, Kyle is annoying. That too. But until I was probably 14, I was. I thought they could shoot their quills.

And we had porcupines in the yard where I grew up. And I'd run by, there was like a specific granite cave on my property. And I'd run by that cave extra fast because I was like, I don't want him to shoot out of the cave at me. And it was because every cartoon I'd ever watch, he'd shot his quills. And I didn't know,

I was like, of course they could. I just watched sing with my kid last night. And the porcupine at the end when she plays a guitar solo, she shoots her quills all over the audience. Wow. Why do they do this? This is just misinformation.

Sounds very sexual, by the way. The way of porcupine gets you, Peter. Yeah, is it backs into you and then goes forward and the quills stick in you and then it goes forward. Remember that one we caught in Vietnam? Of course. It was so terrifying. It was a big porcupine was that. What kind of, what porcupine was that?

I think it's just called Asiatic. It was huge, though. It was the biggest porcupine I've ever seen. I think it's just called Asiatic Porcupine. Asiatic brush-tailed porcupine. I mean, how big would you say that was? Like maybe two and a half feet long? It wasn't this guy.

It was different. type in porcupine Vietnam. Let's see what it was. Was it terrifying? Was it aggressive? It's that guy. Yeah, that guy. Oh my goodness. Yeah, it's big. Go to the one where the guy's holding it, Kyle. Yeah, that's bananas. Yeah. What is this? I feel like I should know

this and I don't. What is the actual species? Vietnam's most dangerous animal. That's our guy. The guy wanted to come. Oh, it is the brush-tailed. Okay. It was just the bad picture. The reason it was fired up because it had been trapped in a poacher's trap. Gotcha. And so it had been stuck in this trap for some period of time. Sorry. And

to answer your question, why was it terrifying? Because it was stuck in this trap, and the trap had like a locking spring mechanism. So I had to get my leatherman out to free it. But its quills were a foot longer than where the trap door was. So every time I went to try and free it, it was like, oh, God. Trying to shoot its quills into my hand. A nightmare. Yeah.

Well, now I can take that special ability off my radar for Battle Royale. No, they're gnarly. No shooting quills. The other thing in cartoons is that they just go like this. They just pick them out. Yeah. Are they barbed the other way, so you can't like... They are barbed.

It's very small. In fact, this is really interesting. We'll dogleg from the game for a second here. Kyle, pull up like a microscope look at a porcupine quill. Because when you hold a porcupine quill, you don't think there's any barb to it. Like, you'd feel smooth. But if you look at like the microscopic structure of one, see that first picture there? Yeah, it's like a pine cone.

See that? It's all backwards facing. But you don't, if you hold one, you're like, this is not a barbed item. Like you can even kind of run your finger over it and you don't feel it. Yeah. But it is covered in these micro like one way facing barbs. When you try and pull it out, it sticks into the skin there. It's in there.

All right. Let's do one more question. This one's worth 15. 15,000. 15 points. There we go. Yeah. There we go.

All right. Let's find a good one. Okay. Here we go. All right. I kind of want to do that moose one because I just want to know the answers. Okay. A moose's antlers are made up of the fastest growing cells in the animal kingdom.

this is i mean i have no idea so i'm taking a swing in the dark here but i'm going to say that it's it's it's god it feels like an edwin makeup i'm gonna say that this is fact fact i want to go fact i think it's a trick and i think that it's some hoofed animal that has the fastest growing cells but i don't think it's a moose i'm going to say that it's a mule deer or an elk that's very edwin way to do that yeah so i'm going to go fiction. I'm going to go fact and here's why. I don't know the answer. But think of the size of a moose's antlers and they shed them every year. So they've got to grow that that quickly and then drop it. So I'm going to go fact, but I don't know the answer. That's a good one, Edwin. It is. More like this.

What do we got? It is fact. Fuck. Well, you still win, but I beat Pat. That's true. It was 15. But it makes sense. I mean, I didn't know that that was the fastest growing cells in the animal kingdom, but look at how much bone and fur and everything that is. They have to grow that every year. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine if you just grew something that was double three times the size of your head on each side of your head out of your head every season. If I wasn't asexual, I'd love that special ability for one of my body parts.

You gotta stop saying that, dude. You can't own up to it. Even if you are asexual, don't own up to it. I was asexual before it was cool. Why? Because I enjoy, I enjoy to use my mental powers for other things. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Have you ever seen that signfield? Should we get them some, like, trend? Should you get them on some testosterone treatment? I don't know, yeah. My testosterone's through the roof, obviously. Especially this podcast. He says with his crossed legs. Oh, look a pat.

Yeah, but you're doing it in such a like chair. My testicles have receded far and stuff. Let's do the thing. The thing, go check out. Oh, my God. We do so many extra podcasts a month. It's so much fun. We chit chat.

We talk about our lives. You can see what Kyle looks like. You can see what Kyle looks like. We talk about animal stuff, of course. uncensored bonus podcast. Go check it out wild times. Dot club forward slash info. We got the 24-7 live stream running.

Go check that out. Everything. All the links you need is at wild times. Dot club forward slash info. Love you guys. Yeah, that was perfect timing. Yeah, it is time. Cheer.

I'm sorry. Didn't mean to leave you hanging. Here's the opener. That tire. Let's go time. My beer's done.