Wild Times: Wildlife Education - TWT 205

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

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Wild times. We just had a lovely lunch, didn't we, boys? Oh, yeah, dude, feeling real fat. We met for lunch. Everybody was in a tight-fitting t-shirt. Then we ate lunch, and everybody put on a shacket for a looser fitting shirt for the pod. It's 100% true. Even Kyle changed, which is shocking.

By the way, we didn't even have, like, we had salads. We had salads, all of us. But they were big and filling. Yeah. And then we also chugged a bunch of. Like kombucha. Yeah, it was nice. Mine had a stay on top of it.

Tea kombucha, I noticed, by the way, so no booze in it. Because normally there's a little booze in there, like a little alcohol because it's fermented. What? In kombucha, there's normally a little alcohol because it's fermented, so it's like a little bit. So, like, you shouldn't give it to a kid? Correct. Like, it'll say on there. Oh, wow.

I truly didn't know that. No, I didn't either. So that's interesting. I haven't had to babies. In the bottle. It says it's good for gut health. Yeah, it is good for gut health. How much alcohol and alcohol and good.

kombucha. I see, I noticed for us to point out, this is a quick stupid thing. No, tell me. Zero point five percent. Yeah, it's because it's fermented and between 0.5 and 3 percent, so it can get to a high percentage. But you started using, you told me to use AI to look something up and you said, why don't you grok it? Yeah. I was like, what happened to chat GPT and shit? You're on to grok now? Well, I'll be honest. Somebody else said grok it to me, and it sounded really cool. It does sound clear. I'm going to start using that. That's exactly why he named that too. I don't know what it is.

Seriously, you don't even use it? No, I'm not sure what that is. That's funny. All right. On the last pod, well, do the thing. Oh. People know who we are. Yeah, we're three guys to do a podcast.

A lot of people, a lot of aliens say it's the best podcast in the universe. Yeah. Yeah, I heard that in some confidential files. Last time we were here, two things were teased. Two. That's right. I'm excited about one because it benefits me, I think. One.

Okay. I'm just repeating numbers. So I've been dying because I've never gotten to go. So we're going to get into your crocodile adventure. Oh, yeah. At Victoria Falls. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, let's dive in. Should we do that? Why not? Why not? You also said that you're going to give us a taste test of something. It's highly controversial. Okay.

It better not be spicy. It's my dick. Oh, my goodness. I'm out of here. It's not that controversial. I'm out of here. All right. Yeah, so for those that are just tuning in, I spent a month in Africa, went to my home country

of Zimbabwe, which went to a written area I've actually never been before, and then went to South Africa for this discovery project that I'm working on. But I think we teased, if I'm not mistaken, literally the day I got on the plane that I was going to do what could be the scariest thing I've ever done. Yes. Yeah. We talked about it before. Yes, you were on your way to the airport And you, my recollection is that you were going to climb inside some sort of thing to try to get crocodiles to become very, very, very close to you. Well, it's fair to say I did that. So, Kyle, if you'll go to- What kind of crocs are we talking here?

So hold on. Can you X out of that, Kyle? So I know what I'm looking at here for a second. So Nile crocodiles, northern Zimbabwe, the Zambezi River. There's an old legend that says there are so many crocodiles in the Zambezi River, which is one of the longest rivers in the world. that you can line both banks head to tail with crocodiles. Wow. And there are a lot of crocodiles.

Whether that statistic is true or not, I couldn't say. Is it one of those places where you could cross the river by going like, and run across their heads? Well, yes and no, because by the way, that's a real James Bond thing. Have we ever talked about that? Yes. Where people are actually injured on the movie extras. Yeah, it's so cool.

I found out it was the stunt guy. But it, you don't see crocodiles. like that. You see them. Don't get me wrong. You look out and you're like, there's a crock, there's a crock. But what's so amazing about crocodiles, we were on the last evening, we decided to go, do a final like OTF to wrap up the whole expedition, right? And I'm sitting from me to Kyle from the water's edge, but 10 feet elevated, you know, like up on a rock, the beautiful sunset behind me. And three quarters of the way through the OTF where we haven't seen a single crocodile and we're on this big giant Lake Lake Kariba in the background. My

one of the camera guy goes, look down below you. And there's a head of a crocodile this long that's just, you know, you can see 10 miles in every direction because you're on a lake shore and it's just materialized and waiting. And that's what's so amazing about crocodiles is the way they just like, waiting for you. Waiting for you know, thinking I'm an animal coming down for a drink kind of thing, you know, and then he's just going to nail me. But, um, wow. Anyway, long story short, we've been doing this human wildlife conflict-based show to talk about,

you know, understanding predators from the perspective of prey to try basically, it's like, let me show you this and scare you into not fucking with animals. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, there's a lot more to it. I don't want to give it all away. But, Kyle, go to the WhatsApp group. Go to the videos I sent you. So go over one.

Oh, he says WhatsApp. Go to WhatsApp. Go one more. Let me see what you got here. One more. One more. Calm down with that play button. So this is the contraption we built.

To say it's janky, like look at the number of ropes and things sticking off of it. It looks like it should go into a car compressor immediately. It's very janky. Now watch what I did in it, which was bonkers. You have two giant carcasses on there? Oh, my God. So I'm inside of this box that we lowered down using hand ropes, literally, and winches that we made. Go to the perspective of me in the box, Kyle.

Oh, my God. Look at this. Jesus. Right. Oh, my God. I was legit nervous, especially. So we built. Hang on.

Can I see that again? Your hair doesn't look so good there. No, no, there's a lot going on. Right. Yeah. So when you say, you know, it's funny? Yeah, that's, you are nervous. Yeah, legitimately.

And I'll tell you why, there was a 50-50 fear of drowning and being eaten by crocodiles. Sure. Because we handmade this whole contraption. Uh-huh. You know, crocodiles, look up the PSI bite force of a Nile crocodile. I want to say 1,200 pounds? No, maybe more. I thought it was 2,000.

It might be. I don't remember. literally just quoted it in the show, but it's an exorbitant amount of force that they're capable of crushing through. And 5,000 PSI, by the way. And that's crazy. That's outrageous. It's outrageous. It's one of, is it not the strong other than the Jaguar? No, Orcas, no, Jaguar's 1,200. Orcas are the strongest. But it's, I think it's the second or third. But regardless, like, we sourced a bunch of fucking material in the middle of nowhere and welded the sucker together. Oh, my God. And, and then I had 12 dudes.

who I found in the local village. So we put pulleys up. So we made this box. Then we put pulleys up in the trees because there was no other way to do it and put a rope over it. And then they just hand railed me out and the hand lowered me down

and then hand lifted me up. So they were ready, if you had a safe word, could they have lifted you up? Slowly lifted me up, yes. But this is all done with source materials and ropes in a town of 850 that's 12 hours from the next nearest town.

And so to say that, We barely were able to put this together as an understatement. And then, you know, like, we start. And so we, so the test run, I'm like, all right. So the way, the way this contraption works is I jump in the box, they bolt the box closed. Okay. Then one rope lifts me and then a pulley system moves me out and lowers me. Does that make sense?

Yes. Yeah. So we start on day one. And the pulley system is all just the, the, the wheels are just into the trees. Yeah, exactly. And then like an a frame thing that we made. Okay. But it's very, very rudimentary.

And we start on day one and I'm like, okay, don't move me over the crocodiles. Just lift me up and down. Let's see how it does on my weight and everything else. Keeping in mind that an adult now crocodile weighs two ton and there were about 15 of them in this area. So, you know, not to mention when the things get on top of it. And when I get lifted up four feet and the whole thing just goes and like creaks and something slips in the pulleys and I drop like two foot.

Oh, man. And then like, boom. Turbulance. You got turbulence going on in there. I've gone in. So I'm sitting in this box and I'm like, right, there's two things that can happen here. One is, this is like a 10 foot deep pool and the box is two and a half feet tall. It's very tight. If you're not, if you're only listening, like, it's the size of a coffin. It is. It's like a metal coffin. Yeah. And so anyway, it's super uncomfortable. I get in it. And I'm like, there's two things that

can happen. The crocs can break through and then I'm toast, right? Like I can't panic. I can't get myself out. The crew has to put me in and out. But if the crocs get through, I'm toast. Yeah. Yeah. The second thing, and to me, probably the more scary, is something in our bullshit system that we hand-rigged fails. Yeah. And I sink to the bottom of a 10-foot-deep pool with thousands, with, not thousands, a dozen crocodiles around and no way to really get me out of there. There's no way to get out.

Well, because you're bolted into the box. Bolted in. And even if I wasn't, if I came out, I'd be toast. There's nothing that could happen. Nothing. You're saying if you came out, you would definitely be eaten by rocks. 100,000%. I would not make it a foot out of that box.

And they could not get to you, just. get to you just to be clear because it's surrounded by man-eating crox oh yeah no there's nothing that's what i'm saying if i go down i'm down there's no backup there's no there's no plan there's no plan B what do you think their reactions would be had that happy just like well just he's just literally just like walk away yeah go back to the hotel and just never speak of it look at these look at there's no hotel i mean we were remote but look at these fuckers go to the next slide call this one look at these guys oh my god there's like how uh go uh go to of the other one, Kyle. I think there's some tight shots here.

Nope. How many ropes are attached to the box? Three. Dude, that crock is huge. One to go left and right and one to go up and down. That crock is huge. How many crocs are there? They're about 15 in this one of the crocs just chewed through the rope. These were all considerations. So we lowered me down to the point of me being like chin deep in the water on my belly.

And then these crocs came in and fed. And Kyle, just play it without audio so you can see. so I'm getting just thrashed around in there. My whole chest and stomach were bruised when I got out of this. But there was so much adrenaline in my system, I didn't feel it at all. Of course, yeah. But it was a wild thing, man. I've, you know, all of this is in the pursuit of trying to communicate how cool animals are to people. But this was one where I'm like, why am I doing this?

Yeah. It was like, like, I can just go catch a crock and out. Let me ask you a question. I have a real problem like with when I am not in control. and I'm also claustrophobic a bit. Well, you would not have enjoyed this. Dude, like, did you have any of that when, like, they bolted you in? It's like, now I can't get out.

What happens to me, because I've done like four or five of these now for this new series. Yeah, you've been bolted in several times. Yes, but that's not it. What happens is I'm standing around. We're on the banks of this pond filled with crocodiles. Yeah. And, you know, Mitch is fiddling with a GoPro and JQ's setting up a camera angle. and John Rondano is planting his 19th microphone.

And I'm just starting to get so anxious and irritable that after, and they even this time have learned enough that they got there two hours before me just to rig the cameras. There are 19 cameras on this. Okay. Just to rig the cameras. And I showed up and it still wasn't done,

so I kind of paced back and forth for 10 minutes. And this isn't like my nature. But after 10 minutes, I was like, that's it. I don't care what cameras are here. We're doing this. Because if I keep thinking about it and sitting there and watching it and looking at these crocodiles,

looking up. It's like it's too much going through my brain. And as we've pointed out, I don't really like to think things through. So I just say fuck it, let's go. And then we just go. You aren't like, hey, is this the right thing to be doing? No, I'm too deep in at that point. I'm like, we just got to send it. So. That's crazy, bro.

I mean, that thing looks so janky. You've got to come and see this thing if you're only listening. What is that? Is that cattle? Or Zibu or something? What's the meat that's rigged? Oh, no, that was cow. That was just cow. That was just cow. We used wildebeest for the line. So they're like whole legs of cows? Yep.

Four limbs. We got a cow from the local village, which they were stoke dung. I don't think anybody had bought a cow there ever and butchered it and kept a lot of the meat and then took the four limbs and tied it to the outside of the box. And so then they lower you in. Yeah. How long before you have the first crock headed towards you? It was interesting because there was probably a few minutes. Oh, wow.

They wanted to eat me. but they were like, this is unusual. You know what I mean? Had I decided to jump in for a swim, it would have been a millisecond. Because that's something they're used to, right? Or tried to scoop some water out. But they lowered me down. And even though there was meat on the box and they could smell it and they knew and everything else.

Me on the box. Nice. They looked at it and went, something's off here. And so you see in that one video and I have hundreds more in a whole TV show coming, that big dominant alpha crock, that one that's in that side, the death rolling. Yeah. So that one, this guy's about 16 feet. Dude, he's massive.

His head is giant. His head is taller in length, longer in length than the torso of my body. I mean, he's huge. That's crazy, man. And so he came in first, and once he started feeding, it sort of signaled to the rest, like, okay, we can go for it. Yeah. But he, there were basically two that were enormous like this, like 16, 17 footers.

And they did a good job being possessive over me and the meat and saying, stay the fuck away. Okay. So you'd have these little ones sneak in and take a bite here and they. there and the big ones would just, you know, and do that like grumble thing they do and gape their mouths and then the little ones would back off. Is it a grumble or like a hiss? It's a grumble. I don't know. But it was crazy. It was a really weird different kind of thing to do. Oh, you think? Yeah. Of all of these things that I've done for this new series, this was the one where

I was like, you could die. I could die doing this. There's there's more than one way to die that both have a high percentage of happening. So do they ever manage to remove all of the cow meat? So if you look there, what you'll see is we use seatbelt material. And I did that intentionally because I had a seatbelt cutter with me, which I didn't want to have a knife. Because if I pull a knife out and I'm thrashing around, there's a good chance I end up sticking myself with it.

Oh, yeah. So those seatbelt cutters are, I don't know if you've ever seen one. They're a little square thing with a little blade on the inside. Yeah, yeah. And so I put that around my wrist and then I had the seatbelt. So to answer your question, the point was if it should start going sideways, say one of the walls started to pop off or something, I could have cut the seatbelt and hopefully the meat would have gone away and the crocs with it, at least for a temporary amount of time. And the seatbelt material is incredibly strong. Oh, yeah.

Like these crocs weigh two tons, some of them. And they never got all the meat. They death rolled and ripped until there was fragments of bone left on the seatbelt. Yeah. But they never actually stripped it clean. I also never wanted to cut it and let seatbelts go into their digestive system. So we never did that, but that was sort of the escape plan. Seat belts are smart because they're obviously tested against very high impact forces.

So like there was nothing else that we could have done. I couldn't rip it off if it wanted to. I could have done chain, but then I can't get it off. Do you know what I mean? And it would probably break the crox teeth and stuff like that, which I also didn't want to do. So, you know, we really had to come up with something strong enough. There's no such paracord. ropes, yes, I could get a thick enough rope,

but then I'd have to be sawing at it with a knife. And as you see just in that one clip, there are times where I'm just getting thrown around in that box. Yeah, dude. Yeah, it was a crazy thing. Can you go back to the one where he gets nervous? I should just watch this one more time. A whole lot of minutes of this.

With sound, please. Right. Oh, my God. The oh my, that's the first time I've ever heard you say, oh my God, like that in your entire life. With sincerity? What was happening in that moment? Was it just, had they just started?

I think so. There were two moments that were really, three moments that were really scary. One was the like, the creaking in the beginning where I was like, fuck, this thing can fail. This system can fail. Where you drop two feet? Yeah, that was scary. Yeah. Then that was the day before the actual experiment.

And then the experiment day when we lowered me in, we pushed me out over the pond. And then I just sort of hung there until the swaying stopped and I was maybe five feet above the crocs. And then I was like, okay, lower me. And then there was just this sinking feeling in my heart as I'm lowering down. I'm looking through the mesh at two. 16-foot crocks that are looking up at me. Oh, my God. And I was like, fuck, what am I doing? But, you know, I didn't say that. I hope you have that angle in the show. Oh, we do. Yeah. There's a drone shot and everything. So it's like you're giving away a bit here, but I can't, no, no, I'm saying, but I can't like, watching the actual professional production of this with all the angles and shit is going to be insane.

And then the next two scary moments, one were right here. So this was basically, I hit the water thinking the crocs were going to nail me and they didn't. So there's a minute and a half of my Adam. app like my heart and my throat, you know that feeling? Yeah. And then all of a sudden they started to smash it. And if I'm not mistaken, this is from that initial smash. Got it. And just how violent it was. Yeah.

I mean, I knew that it was going to move around, but it was just like, wham, right, right. And then the other scary thing that started to happen is about halfway through the feeding, well, because the more they thrashed and fed, the more it brought in more crocodiles. Right. And other crocodiles would just sort of appear. and then a couple tried to get to me from under the cage. So I'd just be lying there and all of a sudden I'd feel thunk as something would hit my belly with two millimeters of steel

between me and the crock. Yeah, that was creepy. And you can't see anything. What are you pushing yourself up on to stay out of the water? No, nothing. That's as low as we lowered it. So because we had the ability to regulate the height, I wanted to be literally eye level. So I just wanted to be belly in, basically, you know,

right up to my chin lying flat. Were you able to be really conscious of making sure that your fingers weren't poking through the mesh on the bottom? So if you zoom in, you see the chicken wire that we put in on the right hand side of the frame there? We did that intentionally because I was concerned that there was going to be so much adrenaline and so much going on that I was going to stick my fingers through to hold on. Yes. But I was like, let's put chicken wire on so that I don't have a brain slip and stick my hands through to hang on. And so I couldn't even force my fingers through. It's just so interesting.

But you could feel you knew they were hitting the bottom of the cage. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, literally, like a shark trying to breach a seal. Like, there were a couple times where I just felt thunk. And I, like, I don't think it'll read on camera when the show comes out because it's just brown water and all of a sudden I go, oh. Yeah. Because it's just, like, this thing hitting you from underneath. It's crazy.

Yeah. Dude, like, it's just, it's really, uh, I mean, like, you could have forgotten the chicken wire and come back with no fingers. Like, that's just such a random thing to think about. Like there's probably 20 other things you didn't think about that never happened, but could have gone wrong. That's crazy, dude. How long did you stay in there? Probably about a 45 minutes to an hour in the end. Because it started and it got crazy and it was hot and the crocs started feeding and then it built and built and built.

And then it sort of started to back off. Like the crocs, the big ones sort of were like, this is mine, stay away. The smaller ones would sneak in for a bite. The crox sort of realized, I think, that they weren't getting to me and they just had to fight for the meat. Yeah. And so after, you know, I stayed in there a long time. I really, I got comfortable enough to kind of enjoy it. But it was.

After the climax, the barrage of fucking initial and then like the second. It was scary. Like Patrick said, like he can see in my face here that I was actually nervous for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty wild. And so then you just basically use the walkie that's above you to say, okay, lift me out. Yeah.

I mean, also the pond was maybe 50 feet wide. So I could yell as needed. Got it. But yes, I was on walkie to the guy. running the pole. And who was overseeing the who was like the person that was in charge of everyone that was on the banks?

He's like we didn't do that. No, we didn't do that. I guess Mitch. Okay. But we had we had guys there with sticks. Mitch who ran from the rhino? Yeah, but we had guys there with sticks in case any crocs decided to like come up and then we had a rule that you can't be

you know, within six feet of the bank. Yeah. And the crocs were not interested in anything but me. Sure. Yeah. Just dang. when you meet over the fucking potments. It was something, dude. It was a weird thing to do. It was very interesting.

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So there's the highest water flow in 25 years. Oh, there's a reason I included this picture actually. So describe it first. So this is John Rondano, our audio engineer. He's about 6'5. He's very quiet, very funny. And the reason I included this, hopefully it doesn't mind me telling the story, is on our last project, right before this one, he found out that his father had passed away. It wasn't unexpected. You know, he'd been declining for some time. And sorry to hear that. We all were, but it happened. Now, John had to make the conscious decision to not attend his father's funeral, which was just a small gathering of family, to be on this shoot. None of us actually knew this at the time.

John has told all of us on my crew probably seven or eight times, his dad, who traveled a lot for work, I think he was an engineer, had one thing in his mind, one place that he said was the most incredible thing he'd ever done or experienced.

it was Victoria Falls. We ended up stuck in Victoria Falls for about six hours, which we were never expecting to because a plane got in early and another plane got delayed. And so I said to the guys, I'm like, we're in Vic Falls. Fuck the, fuck the airport. It's 30 minutes to the falls. Like jump in a car.

Let's go right now. So we grabbed a case of beer, jumped in the car, and ran to the falls. I took this photo of John, went back. Later that night we were sitting around in Joe Berg where we got to and he brought me a beer and he put it on the table. And I was like, thanks, John. That was nice to you. And he goes, I just want you to know my dad's funeral was today. And by some coincidence, we ended up at the place that he always told me was the

most incredible place he's ever been Victoria Falls. That's crazy. Yeah. And it was just completely serendipitous. And so I included that photo of John because it was just such a cool thing. Yeah, it's very cool, especially when you know the story behind it, man. Yeah. So wait, you guys were going to just pop in and pop out without going to the Falls there? We had a charter flight in and out of Victoria Falls. So we didn't have time in the schedule to just go to the falls. And it was a travel and shoot day. So we were supposed to be on the move. Okay. And then we landed and we ended up with the six free hours. So I had like my fixer. I was just like, you deal with the luggage, we're out of here. And we literally ran out of the airport, grabbed a taxi and went straight to the falls and

walked around the falls for three hours, grabbed a beer and went back. Nice. Wow. That's crazy. He didn't even know he's going to have the opportunity to go see it. No, I don't even think he knew he was flying in and out of Vic Falls. I think that he sort of found that out. And then going in to the shoot, you know, we never saw it. We just, we flew over the falls flying in, but, you know, and then on the way out was the day of his dad's funeral and the day this happened. So it's kind of cool. Is it, is it, you know, pictures never do justice for waterfalls? No. Even video. You know what I mean? Yeah. Unless you get a drone right up, you know, yeah. It's really hard to get the scale of everything. It's so cool that you would say it's a place like worth endeavoring to visit if someone's,

you know, in Africa. It's one of the natural wonders of the world. Yeah. Right. And you, you're seeing what you see, but you walk for 45 minutes and it's waterfalls. Right. It doesn't go away. Like, this is just me stopping at a random point to take a little, like, panoramic video.

But you walk to my right in this video for another 40 minutes of watching this waterfall. And we happen to be there on the highest waterfall. fall year of the last 25 years. Right. Right. So there's entire whiteouts. Like, I didn't send Kyle some of these because we're in these dorky, like, plastic, you know, ponchos and stuff. Sure. But there's just these entire whiteouts. But you know what's crazy is you fly over the falls and you see what looks like a cloud coming out of the African desert, basically. Yeah. And it's just all the mist going up into the sky. It's an incredible thing.

I've seen quite a few videos of, like, people at Niagara Falls, which is obviously not this scale. but you can get pretty close is that right pat you can get pretty close over there yeah yeah Niagara Falls you can you get on the the maid of the mist uh-huh it's just like a little boat tour and they go right up there yeah you get like I mean you're not like right underneath it but yeah you get pretty close

and it's pretty amazing remember we went to Kauai and uh yeah we did that hike and we were that's an amazing waterfall oh dude yeah we were gallivanting under the waterfall that's fantastic a couple of a couple of re Gentleman. Hey, Kyle, this reminds me of a story. So, nothing bad happened to me.

Thank God I'm still here. Had some nice bruises on the tongue-tum. Almost lost your fingers. Nah, not really. Close. You were one thought away from losing your fingers. Yeah, but I didn't. Kyle, give me a little who-done it.

Ooh, what's in the news? All right, so immediately after being in Zimbabwe, we went to South Africa for a lion project and a hyena project. In fact, Kyle, pull up that hyena photo real quick. quick. It was one of the cooler projects. One of the cooler photos that I've ever seen. It's a really dark looking photo. Go over to your left. That's the one. Look at that. Oh, boy. Isn't that cool? So that's a pig carcass that I drag behind a pickup truck to send trail these two hyenas. So are you just unprotected there? Yeah. No, I had a condom on. Yeah. They would go straight for your cock because it's stinky. Wait, so is there, so you can,

you're comfortable as long as there's a pig for them to eat. You're fine. Look, this is never going to make the show. And I would. wouldn't publicly admit this, but see the guy on the, on the right looking at me? Yes. I bopped him on the head with a stick. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Good, good.

Like, they started eating the pig for a while, and then that guy started, like, sticking his nose, like, through those railings, going, and then, uh, and then he, like, put his feet up on the fender. Yeah. And I came towards me. And I was like, no, no. And then there was a, just a regular stick that had, like, come off a tree. Like, it was only about this thing.

And I bopped him on the head and he was like, jumped off. Well, that's so that. They're that, like, non-confrontational. Yes and no If there was 12 more hyenas Competing for the pig I probably would have been in trouble But with two hyenas that were eating

As a coalition there was no real issue Got it Well now we know why that giraffe booped you on the head In the last podcast Yeah Because he was in retaliation No no he was just like To keep it

Go away Yeah Don't fuck with me Anyway back to the news That we've now doglegged from Sorry let's go Once leaving the crocodile stuff We went to South Africa

And I think the day I touched down, this story went crazy on the news. So before we even get to the story, just click the little video, Kyle, please. So we've got a reel here on Instagram posted by... Are you? I just want

to see if it's posted by a legit BBC Africa. Yeah. That's pretty legit. A euthanized reptile suspected of containing human remains was airlifted by South African police. Now, that's not even a huge crock, is it? It's, I mean, it's a good size crock, but the visual's crazy. But

what happened is interesting. So at Mopalanga, which is in eastern South Africa, it's right on the border of Swaziland, there, so I told you a second ago, we were there during the highest rainfall of the last 25 years. So there's flooding all over southern Africa, not like, you know, the streets are full of water flooding, but all the rivers have swollen and all that. South Africa, like Australia and many of these other places, there's a lot of river crossings where you just take your vehicle through the river, you know, when the water's low. Anyway, this business guy was a hotelier, I forget his name. I think it's in here.

Gabriel Batista drove his vehicle across one of these flooded low-water bridges in the river. And nobody really knows what happens other than the fact that he obviously left his vehicle. You okay? It's a thousand degrees. Still? Yeah. All these weeks later? A thousand.

He walked in here. He's been bringing this flash lately to the studio. I'm glad here last week and it's still hot. No, this is a freshie, but I made this, I made this five, what time is it? 2.30? I made this at 9 a.m. Yeah, just, and it's undrinkably hot still. Just throw that out.

So he just drank hot tea out of his Stanley thing that he clenched out of my chair. Nearly died. It's hot. Hotter than the sun. Sorry. No, you're good. That was a good dog. Like, Kyle's crying with laughter currently.

Anyway, weird thing. This guy decides to drive through. the river. Obviously his vehicle gets, Kyle, do you want to say something about the tea? No, no, it's just weird thing this guy. Jeez. And, and, sorry. No, you're good. And yeah, he obviously decided to get out of the vehicle at some point because the crock didn't get in. And a 15 foot, 1,100 pound Nile crocodile, this is what I'm

talking about where I said if I got out of that cage in a millisecond, I would have been toast. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously found this guy during the floodwaters, nailed him. And they didn't know for sure if it was this crock or not, but they found the crock right near the vehicle. So they shot it, pulled it out, and sure enough, in the crock's stomach was a pair of shoes and actually a few other people's things as well. So that croc had been, yeah. Oh, my God. A bit of a man eater. Yeah, exactly. Also hippos in there too, right? I don't know what river system was it. It says there's hippos too. Oh, well, then yes. And rocks are dangerous, but multiple pairs of shoes and sandals. Right. So that crock had been chowing people. Yeah. So he must have, I mean,

he must have gotten out of the car because he was going to die if he stayed in, right? Like, I doubt it. I'm guessing he tried to cross the river. It was too deep. His car got stuck. Yeah. And he's like, ah, God damn it. I got to just like swim out and, you know, get a tow rope or something like that. And just didn't know. And then just probably made it five feet and got nailed. Oh, what a bad. That's a bad way ago. So it said that his vehicle was found it had been swept off the bridge. Yeah. This vehicle was later. found abandoned after being swept off the bridge during heavy flooding. So yeah, he might have gotten

stuck and realized the situation was getting worse. Yeah. Yeah. And it was one where he's either drowning in the car or You can make a whole movie about this. You could make a pretty gnarly... One of those like, what's the... Where they're stuck in the... Shadows. Is that the one with

Blake Lively? Yeah, Blake Lively stuck on a rock. Have you seen that? Nobody watched it for the sharks, let's be honest. But pull up a little... Pull up a little of the shallows. It was free on one of the streaming things and I watched like five minutes of it and was like she might be one of the worst actors I've ever seen. Yeah, but you're not watching it for her for for her acting. No, you're watching it for the shark baby. Yeah, of course. But literally I have that wetsuit. Blake

lively's just surfing. Do you zip yours down to below your tits? Of course. How else? How else do I get scummit? And that's it. So wait, go back to that still frame a second ago. So she's surfing and I think gets bumped by a shark and then it's like, oh shit, I got to get out the water and gets on this rock and it's two hours of her on this rock with a shark circle. Does it hold your attention? I don't remember. I didn't get through it either. There's no way he got through it.

I've talked about it at least once. Have you seen the chairlift one? No, you mentioned it though. Yeah. People stuck on a chairlift and it's like two hours of them realizing they could either freeze to death or attempt to jump like 40 feet. Oh. This is a good version of that.

It would be. Like the car is slowly filling up with water. Yep. Got a choice. You see the crox. You can really do it. Of course. You see a hippo.

Well, dude, there's a lot of outside elements that you can come in and like start fucking shit. Like not just a lot of... You have to flashback in the movie to his life. Oh, of course. You know what I mean? You have to flash back to when he was a kid and he had a fear of drowning. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. We could ride a whole movie here. Well, let me, uh, I just want to say something about Blake lively. I watched basically every... My wife did this and I got really into it. It's such a horrible show. Gossip girl. Yeah, dude.

I've watched like every episode And she is like She's legit the worst actress I've ever seen in my life No, that can't be Well, it's come out that she's like Apparently a horrible person as well Really? You're not

Yeah, you don't really You don't really partake in pop culture to you No, she's married to Ryan Reynolds She's so pretty though She's kind of like gotten like soft canceled Oh really? A little bit Because of the whole like Justin Baldoni

Is that the guy from the abuse movie Who actually might have abused her But then didn't abuse her that whole thing? And there was like a big coordinated campaign where they were like, yeah. It's a whole thing. They used the same PR agency that, what's the guy, the girl who tried to, went to court with Johnny Depp. What was his? Oh, Amber Heard.

So they used the same PR agency that tried to defame him. Is this a joke or for real? Oh, really? So it's like a known kind of everybody was like, oh, like this company, this PR agency is like hitting guys for abuse and shit. Because, you know, he obviously won that lawsuit against him. I thought everybody loved Blake lively and Ryan Reynolds. Am I wrong about that? Everybody loves Ryan Reynolds.

No, no. He's done now. He is? This is the whole thing. I was like, what? Yeah, it's like, just Google it. It's like a whole thing like Ryan Reynolds and Blake lively are like boycotted or something. Oh, all right.

What's going to happen to Deadpool? I love Deadpool. I mean, I'm sure they'll be fine. Okay. Weird. Well, that's all interesting. I think she's hot. We keep dog-legging about nonsense.

It's okay, though. They want to flee the U.S. to escape the stress and misery that is being put upon them. Yeah, that's just a sensational. I never followed this in the end. There's a lot of stuff going on. So they got called out for this at the end of the day, and he won a lawsuit against them. Interesting, or settled in his favor. I feel bad for this guy.

He was there just to do some business. Yeah. Next thing he knows, he's being eaten by a crime. What I thought was pretty interesting about this. I thought was pretty interesting was how they managed to, The question that I had at first is, like, how do they know what crocodile did it? What? Yeah, did you read it?

Yeah, and so it says here that they would fly helicopters and drones really low across a bunch of crocodiles. And there was one, and all of them would flee except this one that sat there for like three days. Wow. And they figured that that was the one because it ate a big meal and then just kind of hunkered down for a few days. That's what they do. Just like us before we came to record this on. They were like, this has about 200 pounds worth of meat man meat in its stomach. Yeah.

Yeah, so, I mean, Kyle basically stumbed it up, but stumbed it up. We're bad with words. Yeah. He basically summed it up, but, you know, when they fed, they just want to bask and digest in the sun. So it takes something that they feel very threatened by to move them versus the others that are like, yeah, get me out of here. I'll just climb out again later. Yeah. So it makes sense. And I'm sure it was very close to the area.

Damn. Man, that is brutal. I mean, when you think about the worst ways to go by animal, I think that's like top two. Well, let me ask you this. worst. This is called a segue. Okay. For all of you, aspiring podcasters out there. Let me ask you this. Would you rather be eaten by a crocodile?

Or a great white shark. Oof. Boy. Let's answer before you fully segue. Kyle, you go first. Oh, uh, probably shark. I would prefer shark. I'd prefer shark. Also prefer shark. I feel like it's faster. Don't want to be spun. I'll get dizzy. I don't want to be spun. I'll get dizzy.

Yeah, I don't want to be spun around. That's the main thing. I don't want to be spun around in dirty water. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You get infected, yeah. By the way, you'll be spun around, then you're just vomiting all over yourself. I don't think anybody's concerned with the dizziness factor, but you.

It might save your life, though. The crocs like, ew, yuck. The crocodile delims you and you die. The shark bites down and kills you. That's faster. Oh, yeah, I think you bleed out pretty clear. Either way, it's awful. Let's get into the news.

All right. So, I have not seen it. There's a video that's, I know it's been going around. since April, but I'm not going to assume that everyone's seen it here. Here's the headline. Great White Shark relentlessly hunts Foyl Surfer for 10 full minutes in California. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I want to know where this is.

Santa Barbara. No, is it really? Yeah. Fuck off. I was just foiling in Santa Barbara. I'm going to send you a video. Hold on. Pause this for a second. This was legit in Santa Barbara.

Yeah, that's what it says. I mean, you went on the show and we made a video about how Santa Barbara's beaches are so infested with Great White Sharks. I don't never use the word infested. Well, whatever you said. All right. Can we watch that video while you're finding your video? Yeah, because I literally was just foiling probably in the same place.

We believe you. Yeah, Santa Barbara Channel. Fine, whatever. No, no, pull it up. No, no, you've ruined it. No, it's done. Why can't we look after? Go ahead.

All right, so this dude is just, it's a very cloudy gray day. This guy's like a... Can anyone explain what foils, what foiling is? Hydrofoiling is this board that he has that has a wing underneath it, where you're You're in three dimensions of space. So you go up and down and left and right, as opposed to just left and right. How do you propel it? So there are e-foils, which are motorized, which looks like he's not on an e-foil.

Instead, you see how he's pumping with his legs? So you use the momentum of the ocean, you pump with your legs. I wonder who these guys are. They're famous, like, very top, you know, top-tier foilers. How do you know that? Because I've seen this in a day. I think it's a big al-Tikita. I know most people in Santa Barbara.

It's a tiny town. I don't think they're from Santa Barbara. It says Hayron SB as its handle. They're from, so they're from a different country. I'm almost positive. So the shark is following, not this guy holding the camera, but the guy in the background. So keep it on the guy in the background. Okay.

All right, that's good content. That is. I can see the harbor back there. I can see the shark following him. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like pursuing him. Can you go some audio here?

This guy must be panicking. Well, he just realized what's happening. Yep. And he's smiling. Oh, my God. Go for you! He's not smiling. He is, he is. He's laugh.

I think he's, is he being serious? No. It seems like he's goofing. I don't think he's goofing. I think he's got, that's uncomfortable laughter. I do that. I smile when I'm uncomfortable. My wife gets pissed at me.

He goes to his knees. Oh, he shouldn't have done that. Don't do that. Yeah, look at that. The shark is literally chasing him. Dude, that's pretty gnarly. For a good while. It's a 10 minute video.

What's the, conclusion. I didn't watch the nothing happens. The shark kind of, the guy kind of gives up. Sorry, the shark kind of gives up and the guy keeps foiling into the distance. Still pretty, uh, alarming, pretty intense. It's terrible, dude. Hold on. Let me read this.

So down when Ron Tequita. Yeah. It was being tracked by a great 10 minutes off Santa Barbara. Yuck. Uh, Chase was filmed by his friend, Travis Boise riding alongside him. Uh, separate sir. Yeah, I don't know.

10 miles was a separate surfer. Oh, sorry. I'm just reading in my head. That's good podcasting. 10 to 11 feet's a juvenile, right? It's still a big enough animal. But, dude, 10 miles is quite a bit to go, even on a foil board. That's pretty, I mean, you must be tired. Like, do you get tired going 10 miles on a foil board?

Yeah, yeah. Wow. What's crazy is, I mean, I don't want to tie this into me, but the day before I podcasted with you guys to go to Zimbabwe last, I was out in the channel hydrofoiling, probably the exact same area they're in, for a coast of sunglasses commercial. I actually just sent the cut. I've never seen it to Kyle a second ago because I got it while we were at lunch. Yeah. Yeah.

It says here that the shark wasn't necessarily hunting to eat, but more likely curiosity triggered by the foil boards wake and speed like a cat chasing a string. Yes and no. It was not. If that guy had fallen off the board, it would have eaten him. almost positive, right? Because the reaction of this big splash and this motion, it's what I always say. If you act like prey, animals will treat you like prey. If you're something that's fleeing from a great white shark, it's going to pursue you. It is hardwired to do that. Now, did that animal just want to come up and, you know, smash and eat him? Not really. So that's where like the cat and string analogy is fair. Do you know what I mean? It was fixated. It was like, what is this thing running away from me? And had that guy fallen, he would have grabbed him. But it wasn't just like a, a,

boom, I'm going to hit you because you never see him like attacking it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that sucks to be in that situation and be like, if I fall in the water here, I die. How often do you fall off a foil board? Well, if you're these guys and you're much better than me, not very often. But if you're... How often do you fall off? I mean, I didn't fall the day we were shooting, but it wasn't nearly as rough as this.

See, I've thought about this with like skiing. Yeah. Like, sometimes just like if I'm like skiing in the trees, like in the backpoles, you know, and I'm not, you know, I'm far from my friends. Yeah. I like to just pretend that a bear is chasing me. And like, I do wonder, I'm like, if a bear was really chasing me, normally I could ski the entire day and not fall.

Yeah. But under the pressure. And maybe have one fall a day at most. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm like, if the bear was chasing me, would it make me fall because, you know, you get weak in the knees or just make a bad decision? I think it comes down to what kind of person you are.

Are you the kind of person that gets into that hyper focus? that can then, like, I perform better under extreme pressure than I do otherwise. Dude, the dude almost fell there. Yeah, a couple times. It would have been a very meager meal for that bear. It'd be very disappointed if Pat fell. Let's move on to something else. I mean, dude, 180 pounds.

You think there's a small meal for a bear? I didn't say small. I said meager. It's true. Why meager? Because you're meager. It's his favorite word to describe you. You would actually be it.

You would be an idea. deal. Yeah, that's right. But I would be playing music out of my... I would be playing music out of my phone so he wouldn't scare them. I like how you guys are trying to insult each other

by saying nice things. We should play that game. Yeah. That would be hilarious. You are an ideal meal for a bear because they love a high fat content. Oh, thanks. All right.

What are you got going on? Wait, I have a game. Can we play a game? Sure. I get a jingle. I need a new... Give me something fresh, Kyle. use that every time. That's a comedy joke.

All right. Are you ready for, this is going to be the most controversial thing I've ever said or done on the podcast. All right. All right. Buckle up. Kyle, get ready to censor. Okay. I don't know.

Do you have a sensor button for me? Can the name? Not right now, but I do. Give me the, eh, sound. Just, just have it on down. Can the game be called buckle up? It can be called buckle up. All right.

You ready for this? Hot take. Yeah, yeah. Beef jerky is dog shit. Okay. That's going to upset some people. So a hot take is the... Okay.

That's it. That's the game? That's the game. Oh, I disagree. I love beef jerky. How's the game work? Well, I respond. We respond to that.

Please continue with what you were saying. I disagree. Yeah, well, Pat interrupted. So, no offense. Dickhead. I was at Costco, and I was sent there to get... Not the beef jerky, but the beef sticks, you know? The beef sticks are great.

Oh, I should have brought the... I thought you were going to say they're worse. No. Beef sticks are amazing. You like beef sticks? Dry voice. Okay. All right.

All right. You kind of ruined my game. I was perfect until Pat interrupted. Yeah, he's the worst. He's the worst. Oh, that's the worst. Okay. I said beef jerky is dog shit.

You were supposed to defend it and then I was going to do this. I was going to say, well, in Africa, we have better things. Oh, shit. So I brought you guys, obviously not a sponsor. Oh, my God. This is our version of beef jerky. Do you know what this is? No, but I want to eat it now.

Well, you're going to. It's called Bill Tongue. So beef jerky is a smoked meat. You take the meat, you cure it, and you smoke. You don't even cure it. You season it and you smoke it. Biltong is you take the meat, you cut it raw, you dip it in vinegar and salt and dry it. There's nothing else.

Okay. Okay. So it's not cooked at all. It's not cooked at all. The vinegar, the acidity or whatever. It dries it. Now, unfortunately, I should have grabbed that. I don't know why I didn't.

I brought these back from South Africa for you guys. Thank you. And I also brought dry voss, which is like, you know, like a jacks, like a meat stick. Yeah, yeah. This is just the straight. beef jerky version. Maybe next week I'll bring the dry boss for you guys. Pass it over. I'm fat.

Do me a favor. Fish around for a piece with a little bit of fat because the fat is the butter that you want. So you're going to want a guy like this right here. A little bit of fat content. That's not big enough for me. No, you can give as much you want. A little bit of fat content, a little bit of meat. Okay.

All right. Don't eat. First time trying. So is this like a staple in Africa? I'm incapable of putting something into my mouth that I don't eat. So where I grew up, you have steak and eggs for breakfast. breakfast. You have a steak pie or a steak sandwich for, oh, you ruined it. Hold on. Calm down. Well, I heard you chewing. Fair enough. So put it in my mouth? Just wait, would you? I'm giving you a little

context. So don't eat it. Don't eat and talk at the same time. Yeah, just shut up and listen to me. Where I grew up, you have steak and eggs for breakfast, a steak pie or a steak sandwich for lunch and steak for dinner. Awesome. Every time I go back to Africa, I eat like this. Your snack in between those three steak meals is Bill Tong, which is dried steak. There's nobody's fat where I grew up. I swear to God, life expect to see not high, but nobody fat. All right, I want you to think about some jacksling's beef jerky. Think about whatever kind of beef jerky. A little bit of sweet, you know, a little bit smoky.

Now just go ahead and guzzle some Bill Tongue. Kyle, can I get you some while you're over there? I'll come to you. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's way better. It's way better. It's like moist and the texture is completely different. Yeah, it's a dried steak.

Yeah. So I probably, so that's, that's, it's a real piece of steak, yeah. Woolworth's like their version of Vons, right, in South Africa. That's just the Woolworth's brand, meaning not like a gourmet one or anything, beef jerky, aka Bill Tong. To me, it is the greatest type of dried meat you can get. It's so good. It's so good. And there is a dried meat stick called Dry Vos, Voss's sausage. And so I'll bring some of that next week when we potter the week after, if I don't remember. So they don't sell this in the U.S. at all? There's a couple of companies. There's one called Calahari-Biltong, and then there's another one, another small one. But that one has

some preservatives in it, because usually you're just supposed to eat it fresh, as you can see. But usually all it is is salt, coriander, vinegar, and nothing else. A little bit of black pepper. And never gets cooked. And never gets cooked. Nope. It's just dried in the air. It's the best. I'll see you guys on the toilet later. No, it won't. You will not make you. And get, do yourself a a favor. Find a little piece with some fat in there because that's meat butter. I'm telling you. It's so good. Find one with a little fat rind on there. I'm good. No, no, it's good, man.

It's the best. It does not taste like beef jerky. No. The text, even though it looks similar, the texture is completely different. I would call this the champagne of beef jerky. If I were to, like, discover it, I'd be like, oh. So if you had grown up eating this, which I had, which is just salted dried meat, and then you come to America and you see this Jacksling's beef jerky, and you take a bite into some sugary, that's a good piece right there.

You got fat through that one. You get real disappointed. how like when you eat how dry beef jerky you really have to go like yeah like crack it yeah yeah it's pretty bad dude also why is beef jerky pound for pound more expensive than gold i don't know it's utterly insane how expensive it is i went to buy a pack of beef jerky recently 40 dollars after all the prices had gone up at like a gas station i was like i just want to have like a little bit of beef jerky i'm hungry it's good it's protein it's not that fatty it was like 12 dollars for the small no it's outrageous i was like are you fucking kidding

me, dude. I'm not even buying this. Well, here's my takeaway to the Brozner's. I think Bill Tong is far superior. Try and find some and give it a try. I want to make it popular in the U.S. I have no vested interest other than the fact that I want to be able to buy it at my local grocery store. It's so good. It's so good. There's something else you're trying to make popular in the U.S. Why don't we talk about the game's over, right? Yeah, the game's over. Let's talk about the farm. The farm sanctuary. Oh, yeah. This kind of goes back to our what's in the news. Give me one more what's in the news, Jangle. I need a second one. get back in the mindset.

So, Kyle, just do a quick Google. Zimbabwe, the country that I grew up in, a place that's still going back there recently, really has my heart. The Mananauga campaign, Mononagua is the president of Zimbabwe. What you flee from, right? No, that was Mugabe.

Oh, sorry. But the Mananagua administration, his giving back 67 commercial farms, seized during the early 2000s during the Mugabe land reform. Now, for those that don't know, I won't get into the detail. I've written about it, whatever. My family went through some very traumatic times, leaving Zimbabwe during the land reform, during the Zanupiev political party, which was the Mugabe era political party,

taking back all of the farms basically as a ploy for the Mugabe administration to stay in power. It was crazy. There were Punguis, which is indoctrination. through torture, all this various stuff going on that my family lived through and then ultimately fled Zimbabwe. I went back, I should have set this up better. I could have had Kyle play it. I went back there maybe seven, eight years ago and went to my home in Zimbabwe with Mitch. And what was a beautiful home up on a hill overlooking a valley, it's in the Cape Lion one. I don't know if you know. Yeah, you might be able to find it. No, thank you. I went back to my home 2008 or so. And,

And it was destroyed. You know, the floors had been ripped up. The windows were smashed in. You could tell that the hardwood had been used to make a fire in the living room. All the trees had been cut down. The swimming pool was filled with goat shit and green and six inches deep. All of the fields that we used to till and plow for, because, you know, I grew up on a farm. Right.

We're just like cut down and bare dirt. I mean, it was terrible. And I don't know. I just, I had this thought the other day. It's a weird thought. But so here's my home. This is in 2008. So you can see the state of the driveway as you drive up. I drove up not knowing what would happen here. So these guys came in. They took over our house. Right. And I came in and said, hi. I'm just, I'm a little bit lost here. I forget how this went.

I told the guys to keep the cameras low. And I asked if I could walk around. Luckily, the owner of the property wasn't there. Kyle, maybe you can just fast forward a little bit. Because, you know, I brought Mitch in. I was very honest. but there's my old swimming pool. You can see everything's just like kind of trashed and cut down. I don't know. There's not too much to see, but that all used to be like verdant. You know, now it's all just dirt. It's sad, really sad.

I got really upset. You know, everything was just trashed, as you can see. This is your home. This was my home I grew up in and got forcefully had to flee. When I saw this news that Mananagua had amazingly decided to return farms to white farmers that got forced out during the early 2000s, like my family, like, look at that. There's no trees.

It's crazy. I guess it's hard to understand when you don't know what it used to look like. I get it. I mean, you can see, look at the walls. This is where Chipie used to just run around. Yeah, look at the walls. I mean, it's just destroyed.

But I thought to myself, and I thought I'd bring it up to you guys and get your take on it, imagine if I, so the farm is in my name. It was never in my mom's name because in that part of the world, women shouldn't own land. it made things much more difficult. They could legally, I guess, but they shouldn't. So the farm was

in my name, not my mom's name. If I got given the farm back, I would take those 200 acres that used to farm Alistramaria flowers, avocados, and oranges, and turn it into a much-needed wildlife sanctuary on the outskirts of Harari, where I could have people that are much more talented than myself at Animal Husbandry, live and work there, and rescue animals from these surrounding villages and farms and neighboring areas and, you know, maybe people could visit to finance it or something like that, but I'd set up a legitimate just outside of Harari Wildlife Rescue. Yeah. I just thought it was such a cool thing. And I don't know. That's why I texted you guys when I

saw this. I think part of it is just always the pipe dream of having a, going back to my farm in Zabwe and fixing it up. But yeah, I don't know. There might be an actual opportunity here. So he's allowing people to buy it back. He's not just giving it back. No, there were some that were definitely just given back. Oh, wow. Yeah. I don't know how many, but, you know, there's 150 million dollars being paid to foreign farmers for compensation of the land that was taken from them. Right. I don't want any compensation. I just want to get my farm back and turn it into, I wouldn't do farming. I don't know how to farm, but I do know how to take care of wildlife. And there's a, there are some incredible places in Zabwe, Chippengali and Amiri and stuff like that. But I would make one like that.

What's your mom say about it? I haven't talked to her about it. Oh, really? I mean, I mean, I just saw this and texted you guys a couple days ago. Why don't we let the Browsner's way in? I think it's a great idea, dude, and I think, like, I could see you crying in the video there. Shut up. I've never seen you cry. But I do think it would be like a nice come full circle thing where, like, you know, you grew up there as a kid. You went through all that trauma getting out of there.

Now you're an adult, a man, and you come back and you use everything you've learned in life to use that land to do. what you know how to do. And I would make the whole world know that, I mean, at least my audience, know that this has happened. Like the farms are coming back. Do you know what I mean? And that the country is trying to rebound from what was pretty terrible. Dude, yeah.

I mean, because I hadn't heard about this. It should be bigger news. But a lot of people don't even know what had happened there. Right. But still, like, dude, I think it'd be awesome. So what do you have to do to find out? I don't know. I mean, I literally texted you guys this day before yesterday when I saw the news.

So I haven't put like a ton of thought into it yet. You know what we got to do, dude. We got to put this on the socials and make it go viral so that Zimbabwe sees it. That would be great. Well, Bros and hers spread the news, dude, make this shit go viral. Help me get my farm back and save some animals. We need a good tagline for it. That would be a hell of a spot for a podcast studio.

You guys fly to Zimbabwe once a week? Oh, yeah. Once a week. That's no problem. Dude, you got to come up with a good, quick tagline, just like, you know, everybody does, who does political campaigns. Yeah, sure. Forest Farmback.

There you go. Hashtag. I need pat on that. He's good at those. Anyway, just something interesting that was in the news that was related to me and my upbringing.

I mean, I'm sure at some point you'll do an hour of research to figure out like what is the process. For sure. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. But this is just something that I thought of

that I wanted to talk about here. And also like, let's say you use locals, which you would. Of course. I mean, how much do you think it would cost to maintain... How much does it cost to mean...

How many acres was it? 200. So to maintain 200 acres of sanctuary land. I mean, you know, you'd start small with a few enclosures and, you know, rehab areas and look, it would take a lot of money to get it back to being livable and nice. Sure. I would personally put my own money into fixing that and saving the animals there. It's not...

That's not like something where I'm like, oh, I could only do this if people invested in it. Like, I would personally do that as something to set up. and give back to the wildlife in that area that shaped my entire childhood. The only problem I have with it is that I know you'd move there and then the podcast would be done. That's true.

No, I wouldn't. I'd split my time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you probably retire there. Probably. Yeah. Do you think you would,

if we did the podcast in Zimbabwe, do you think you'd still be chewing the whole time? Not my fault. Kyle, this is my fault for giving him the Bill Tongue. It's too delicious. It's ridiculous. Dude, I'm going to bring you the dry boss next. this here's what we'll do the next time in a couple the next time we remember i'll bring a bag of

the dried south african sausage and we'll get a bag of of of of of jacksling's meat sticks yeah do a little taste don't stick them up your ass before you bring them because i know you're a prankster that is funny a couple of my like really really close friends you know you know them both christin and josh oh yeah they listen to the podcast they love it yep they're they are they're always texting lines from it and saying i just laugh really hard at this nice they're both in their car a lot They're both so lazy that they've never just clicked to subscribe on the Spotify. No, you're joking. No, neither of them.

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