Wild Times: Wildlife Education - TWT # 40 Recorded Live! Squirrels are Insane, Langoor gives a haircut, Octopus vs Squid

Episode Date: January 11, 2021

Another fantastic live where we're talking everything in the title and much more! Watch on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S_libBoDN4 Join us on Discord: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/discord More info @ https://thewildtimespodcast.com/info We love you!

Wait, were we live? Are we going? I don't know what's happening. We're live on YouTube now. Okay, so now's the part where we do the intro. Like, now is where like, hey, if you were a professional podcast, you'd be like, and we're back with the Wild Times live episode number 40, I think. Wild Times. Everyone's blaming me on the fucking chat. They're like, Pat is peeing. They're calling me Papa Pee.

It was not me that was late. Who was it? Well, you did, let's be fair. You did have to leave and come back because your internet is pissed for. What's up, Jess? Cheers. Let's do the thing. We're actually live.

Cheers. Cheers, everybody. Brosners, if you're tuning in, cheers. And welcome back to the Wild Times, everybody's favorite podcast where we hang out and talk about nature, wildlife adventure, and all things good. I am your host, the broologist, Forrest Galante. Joined with me is the ever-handsome top-knotted man, Mr. Retep, the professor, Retep. What's happened?

Look at those smiles. You're in a good mood. I dig it. I'm happy, man. We got 73 people here on the chat watching. The Discord is popping off. I pinned a link to that at the top of the thing. Drinking Game Rules are posted in the Rules channel on Discord.

Go there, drink with us. I got 25 rolling rocks to down in one hour. I'm going to circle back to that because I do not understand this Discord thing. You keep telling me to get on there. I think I'm commenting. I don't know. But before we talk about that, let's introduce the one, the only pop a pee, pop a pen tapper, call them what you like.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. How much shit I take from the Brewsters, man. The producer. Patrick DeLuca. What's up, Pat? Happy Friday, everybody. I hope that everyone listening on the live,

or if you're driving to work, Monday listening on iTunes, just play the drinking game along with us. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. If we say came across the desk drink, if we basically just drink the whole time. Just drink.

Yeah. And I mean, it's a pandemic. Just not in the car. You know, there's a government overthrow taking place. Just drink. You're not going to get in trouble at work? No. What's your boss going to say?

Don't drink in these times? Like, what's his problem or her problem, you know? Well, you guys are my boss. Can I drink all 20 of these beers tonight while we're working? Would you shotgun one for us right now, Retepp, like a 17-year-old? Come on, do it. It's too messy. Browsner's way in.

Do you want to see Retef shotgun a beer? A rolling rock room temp? There's too many electronics around, man. I'm scared of that. No. Maybe later. Maybe later. So what's up for us? What's going on? What's going on this week? Anything happen? It's a big week. It's the start of the new year, work year, you know? Like stuff's happening. I feel like things are starting to come together. There's mutterings in the air of the wild times becoming the number one podcast in the world.

I mean, we're the only ones muttering it, but they're there. You know, the mutterings are there. That's legit. Daniel Kuhl is muttering it, too. I can hear him in my mind. dreams. But yeah, I got a bunch of Brosner DMs. I got a lot of love. I've got this Discord thing Retepp keeps texting me about that I don't understand. I've tried to go on there twice.

I'm not sure if I've commented or not, to be quite honest. It's very confusing. What is Discord, Retap? Tell me what we're doing here. Yeah, so, I mean, it's a chat, sir. You guys remember AIM from back in the day, A11? The best two years of my life were when I, after having gone through puberty, chatting with girls on Instant Messenger.

It was so good. Who were actually 55-year-old fat men. No, this girls went to school with. Come on. Oh, okay. Because I chatted with girls that I never met, and I'm fairly certain none of them were women in hindsight. Well, I think you're confused because aim, you actually have to know the people.

Discord. So Discord is like a modern version of that. It's more complex because other than you two, the world has evolved in people are smarter, technologically speaking. There's a lot more features in there. Like, for example, we have a stupid. thing in there where you can type fax exclamation point snake

and a bot will tell you a cool fact about a snake. There's like games and just fun shit you could do in there. So you know, and it's just really good to have the fucking broosters in there engaging, chilling, playing games, talking to each other. I think that there's a pair in there that are going to get married soon.

They know who they are. You're not going to call them out. Okay. Well, they know who they are. They'll probably mention it in the chat. Yeah, and then we have the Reddit. The Reddit. too, which I realized was restricted and nobody could post in there. Now that I've opened it up, 125 people hanging

out in there, posting memes. I don't know if you guys saw the ones of you and me and Pat in there already. It's hilarious. Nice. Well, look, thanks for everyone who's tuning in live. We will get Retep to shotgun a rolling rock

before the end. But let's get into some wildlife nature type of shit, right? What do you think? That's what we're here for. Bros. If you got any thing that have come across your desks, and that's a drink. Send it our way. We'd love to chat about it. And in the meantime, I've got one we can take it away with.

Oh, boy. Did you guys know? Did you see, and this was in a very scientific publication of, I believe, the Daily Mail, that New York squirrels are out for blood, as the headline ran. Squirrels in Battery Park, New York are on an attacking spree in recent weeks. Multiple bite incidents have been the result. to people hand-feeding squirrels in the park. Despite the friendly persona created by the likes of Bob Ross and others,

squirrels are wild animals and should be left alone, people. We'll come around to this. This is not, we're not in Patrick's stepdad's backyard, okay, where we're trapping these things. These squirrels belong in New York City, in these parks. They shouldn't be tickled under the chin because they're cute and fluffy, because if you try and do that, you're going to get bitten. Be smart. dealing with these things. It's that simple.

Dude, people are obsessed with squirrels right now, man. Did you see this thing that was going around? It was like a very trendy Christmas gift called squirrel tables? Uh-uh. What's squirrel tables? Bro, it's huge. So by the way, I sent my stepdad one as a Christmas gift because he hates the squirrels.

We might need an image as we continue down this road. It's going around. It's a big thing. They're tiny adorable picnic tables. Oh, great. I'm frozen. Okay. And people are making like ultra-fancy gourmet meals, like 10-course, beautiful little squirrel-sized meals, and setting the tables with, like, elaborate decor.

And then they video them and put them on Instagram. The squirrels come, and, like, you know, it's like a little tiny thing that's molded into the shape of a turkey. It's awesome. Oh, my God. Well, you guys have seen the guy on YouTube. It was the most viral video a few weeks ago. He's had this channel since the Periscope on Twitter days, like five years ago.

He feeds. raccoons. And he had a record number of raccoons this night that came to his porch. And he was feeding 25 raccoons. He said he had bought like, I forget, some absurd amount of hot dogs, like 30 pounds of hot dogs. He's feeding them Oreos. I mean, people, people love these common like street animals. This guy is the Joe Exotic of raccoons. He's rummaging through Walmart dumpsters to pick up hot dogs to feed his raccoons. I did. see that. And by the way, that squirrel, what's it just squirrel table? Is that the name of it? Yeah. Is that the name of the product? Yeah, that's, that's a, I, I want one. I'd put one on my

fence. Yeah. I want one. I'm kidding me. I don't think I'd go to the trouble of making five-course meal. But, uh, yeah, wow, that's quite something. Well, so I would have an issue because actually my girlfriend vehemently hates squirrels. She had a problem with them in the, in her attic. And the HOA at her place wouldn't deal with these goddamn squirrels. So now, like, we'll be out at the park and I'm like, oh, like, look at that cute squirrel and she'll be like, fuck you, basically. Let me ask you this, Forrest. You know, I know you've never been bitten by a squirrel, I'm assuming.

No. Okay. teeth and they're going to they're going to take out a little chunk of skin i mean i if you if you if you break down in tears or go to the hospital you're a bitch because it's you know it's a it's a quarter pound animal but it's um it's still going to hurt and it's going to take a chunk of skin away for sure okay let me let me let's play the bite force game guys uh uh okay i wonder why you were googling so for those of you listening live don't google it just weigh in with your guesses so let's play the bite force game so

So, again, it's pounds per square inch. So, you know, the squirrel's mouth is very small, so it's got a little bit of an advantage. But, all right, so humans is around 500 PSI. I thought it was like 136. Two different sources, yeah. Don't be spreading misinformation on this podcast. Hey, look, man, this isn't fucking peer reviewed. I just Googled it.

All right, all right. So what are we guessing for a squirrel? I'll put it this way. It's more than a human. How many times? What? How many times more than a human does a squirrel have bite force

as a function of pounds per square inch? I definitely thought it was going to be less than a human. Me too. I was going to say one. One B or so. Yeah, I'm going to say it's three times that of a human, just because you told me it's more than a human's bite force.

14 times. Wow. 7,000 pounds per square inch for a squirrel. Wait, that's more than like what the crocodile's But think about it because it's the size, right? So are you reading the National Incorporated? I'm on two different sources.

Now, look, one of the sources is called News for Squirrels. Oh, Matt McHugh makes a good point. They break the nuts, dude. They got to have that bite. I can't open a goddamn way. Do you know what source? News for squirrels is the name of the website. How is that not what we're doing with our lives?

Newsfor squirrels. blogpost.com Oh my God, dude. Oh, man. That's like a, you just installed malware. Dude, Adi in the chat says, imagine the guy who got the alligator balls bitten, but it's a squirrel instead.

Oh. Gone. That's a clean take. Well, Forrest. Oh, sorry. I was going to change the subject. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Please. Forrest decides, it's right around midnight, so I'm really just going to settle in in for my relax portion of my night. Forrest sends me a text of a video that if we put on YouTube, we will get banned from YouTube because it's not ours. It's a video. Tell them what you texted me,

because you can describe it more accurately. Because I almost puked. Retab, you're going to share this where so that people can see it without us getting banned? It's actually in the Discord right now. I had to put it in the Not Safe for Work channel. And the thing that I text Patrick in midnight, and knowing how squeamish he is,

is, I literally just wrote, watch this, and then saw, you know how you see the little dots when someone's doing something? And then I was like, how do you like your scalping? And it is literally a Langer or some kind of monkey. I didn't even look that closely because I was so blown away by the video that's like looking at this guy. I think he's like an Indian guy. It looks like it's in India. And the guy's like looking back at the Langer and he kind of like drops his gaze. And the monkey like looks at the top of the guy's head and then in a flash, the monkey just reaches down and pulls back and you're like, oh yeah, cool, you know, whatever. He pulled a bug or a hat off the guy's head or something.

And you realize the thing in the monkey's head is the guy's, it looks like a fucking toupee. It's the guy's scalp that he was ripped off of the top of this guy's head. And then it cuts to a picture at the end where you literally see the guy's head just missing a third of its skin and hair. And this monkey just scalped this guy. I mean, it was fucking disgusting. Essentially down to the bone.

Oh, yeah. Like, oh yeah, it's disturbing. I mean, he sent that to me and I let out an audible oof. I was just like, it was ridiculous. And then the reaction, it's almost like right after they don't even know. He doesn't even know what happened. It's too quick. It's too quick.

Yeah. It's crazy. And that's why I don't even know what species of monkey it was. I didn't even, I couldn't bring myself to watch it a second time. I was like, okay, that's enough. Need to piss off Patrick now. Literally everyone in the chat is just posting the puk emojis and like, wish I hadn't seen that. So, but let's get into this here.

Totally. Okay. So it takes all of two seconds between when the monkey's hand makes contact with his head and when it leaves the guy's head. So what the fuck did it do? I mean, do Langers have sharp, super sharp claws? I think that's all. Look, I don't know anything about fucking scalping.

This is not something I've gone around and studied. But is it just from grabbing that chunk of hair with that kind of like pull, motion, and force? I don't know. I mean, they have fingernails, but they don't have claws. I mean... They have these skinny, they have very skinny little fingernails. They don't take up as much of the width of the finger as ours do. And they stick out a little bit, but they're not super long.

But I don't think, are you... Like, I'm not willing to look at it again. But I don't think that the monkey, like, dug his fingers into the guy's scalp. I think it was just the force of ripping the hair back. I don't know. Is that how a scal... I don't know the physics of scalping. Okay, well, the way that it's...

portrayed in the media when someone scalped, usually a knife is involved. True. Right. So this thing just goes, and just takes a third of a guy's fucking head off. Right. And it's funny. So this brought me to something I was thinking about for us. Okay.

You could, let's say this languor, what is that? That's probably a two and a half foot tall monkey that we're looking at. Yeah. 20 pound, two and a half foot tall animal. If that thing approached you, well, could you bring up a languor for us? You probably wouldn't think, oh, if this wanted to kill me, it could. No. After seeing that, for sure, that 20-pound monkey, I think, could kill a full-grown male.

Oh, I think so. Yeah, I mean, you know, goes back to our reoccurring theme in every episode, which is could I kick its ass or not, right? Look, I think if you knew it was coming for you, you'd still have a really bad time, man. I remember when I was a kid, my uncle got in an altercation with a baboon, which is just not something everybody says. But my uncle had this plum and we were at Lake Carribe, which has a lot of these baboons. And yeah, anyway, long story short, that baboon was definitely going to kill my uncle. Oh, my God, yes.

Yeah, and my uncle was very prepared for the situation in the sense of, like, he chose to hang on to the plum and not give it to the baboon. And he was going to lose the fight 100% of the time. So, you know, they're a little bigger than the Langers, but monkeys are ferocious, man. There's so much, all primates are so much stronger, like, in their size than we are. You know, you think of them being, like, related to us, right, as primates, like same evolutionary tree. You're like, oh, you know, I could fuck up a monkey because it's like me fighting a really small guy, right?

Like, I could fuck him up because he's tiny because they're, you know, their biped, buypeds, wear bipeds, whatever. No. Like, they fucking destroy you. Like, Patrick, I'm sure you're Googling some facts behind their strength. of course. But it's just like it's, no, they'll destroy you. Yeah.

Sorry, go ahead. Well, the scalping thing is terrifying, but black sheep in the chat did point out that I'm likely immune because I asked if they thought that one of these monkeys could take on a full-grown human. I'm likely immune because of the top knot. He makes a good point. He makes a good point, but Stephen Fisher also makes the point that one Langer is greater than six retaps.

And I mean, you know, he could probably get that peer review. Like, that's publishable. The top knot is a handle for it to just pull your whole head off like a dandelion. Dude, that monkey was not pulling hair. He was digging nails on your skin. Well, I think it was Stephen Miller. Someone posted saying, you know, it could definitely rip your pecker off. And I remember seeing a story probably 10, 15 years.

It was a long fucking time ago. But an old man had gotten attacked by a chimp in a zoo. And the chimp had gotten loose. It was in a zoo in America. And it ripped his genitals off. and that got me sort of going down the wormhole. They will attack the genitals. And I've been with Forrest when our sound guy, Gabe, a monkey in Zanzibar.

What kind of monkey was that? It's a little blue monkey, right? Yeah, blue Sykes monkey, I believe. And it wanted the strawberry that was in Gabe's hand that he was just eating. He was looking the other direction. And it came up and double fist punched him square in the balls and took the strawberry. I remember that. They know to go for a nice guy.

They're smart. Yeah, I would not want to fuck with any animal. I'm scared of my 12-pound dog and even more scared of the 8-pound cat. So, I mean, I'm not taken on anything that is, you know, bipedal as tall as me. Just nothing. I'm not even taking on a squirrel with that. Fuck, I know. By the way, up to, you know, people are coming into the live.

Thank you for joining us. I say we all have a little 904 on the East Coast sip. What are you guys sipping? Cheers. Genitonic, standard. I'm actually getting real low. Yeah, that's pathetic. It is.

That's probably a good thing. I get so excited. You want to know the truth about my drinking habit in this podcast? It's my only drink of the week. It really is. Like, I don't like social. I'm being honest. It's my only drink of the week.

And I sit down and I start talking to you guys. I start engaging with the Brosner community. I get fucking excited. Yeah. I sit my drink like every 15 seconds. I really pour myself one drink. So I'm, what are we, seven minutes in? and I'm out of drink.

I'm like, God damn it, my podcast is ruined. I only have one drink. But now I have to go to the collection and pour something. I made myself this all. I found a zero sugar root beer, and I'm drinking a vodka and root beer, and it tastes so good. I'm like, I can't stop drinking this. It's soda.

Yeah. Oh, dude. Yeah. It's a problem. I mean, I've been, usually by the end of the pod, the Battle Royale, lately, I've been too intoxicated to really even think. And it's, uh, you know, But I get, I'm so excited, especially today because of all the new shit and like actually talking to all the Brosner's and stuff and the Discord and the Reddit.

I'm just like, and I literally pounded two beers before we even start. Good for you, man. I'm like beer number five right now. Hey, so on that note, Retepp, on that note, and there's something real special I want to bring up at the end of this. But I got a couple pretty sweet Brosner DMs. I know there's been some messages going to the Wild Times Brossner account. Seth Isaacson said, given the news about punching octopus, now for anybody listening for their first time,

on the last podcast we talked about this bit of news where scientists find out that basically octopus are dicks, and they just punch fish when they feel like it. Seth Isaacson said, given the news about punching octopus, who wins in a fight, an octopus or a squid? Let's assume similar size. So we got like a little mini battle royale thing going on here.

So I figure Patrick Reteb weigh in, and then I'll give my, I'll give my two cents. So assuming they're fighting and not just that the squid's going to run or swim away, the octopus is going to fucking destroy that squid. An octopus has a beak in each sucker, which you told us on the last podcast. It has three brains, nine hearts or whatever the fuck. I could be wrong on that.

I think I'm right. You're pretty close. Yeah, you're pretty close. The octopus is going to smash a squid to bits. What do you say in her attack? Yeah, my take on this, first of all, just say straight up, I agree. And because the octopus, if it was a bigger animal, it would literally be the king of the sea. It's very smart.

It's got eight tentacles that have basically a neural network running through it. Somehow it thinks with its tentacles. The thing is so goddamn smart. The squid would be like still coming toward the octopus. The octopus would be behind it in a chokehold. Like, there's no chance. Octopus one hundee. So from a biological standpoint, let me tell you why I think the squid stands a chance, right?

In a squid, they have this long, clear, I'm forgetting the name of the organ, but it's basically a hard thing, right? Like this long, clear, it looks like a feather in a sense. And it almost looks like it's made out of, like, plexiglass that gives their body rigidity. You're describing cats dead. I don't know there's a name for it, but I'm blanking on it right now. The octopus doesn't have that. It doesn't have hard things inside its body for rigidity. Okay? The squid... That's interesting.

Well, also having eight tentacles, two of those are much longer, right? And on the end of those much longer ones, there are these big pad suckers that they use to grip stuff, that they can shoot out and pull in. You've probably seen that. So there's, there is an advantage there. They're also much more aquedynamic, right? The octopus is like a big blob. It's like this big round thing with the eight legs coming out. Whereas the squid is this bullet shape. Now, all that being said,

octopus wins hand down. I'm with you guys. And the reason being, I just thought it was worth considering. The reason being, the maneuverability, right? When a squid swims, it can really only go in that kind of one,

it's not very directional because of its body shape. Whereas the octopus, like, you know, like fight anything with eight arms, you know? Like, they used to make Pokemon with those fucking arms coming out of everywhere. Like it's just, you know, there's just nowhere, there's no attack

point that you can win from when there's that meant, that much maneuverability arm is going on. What if the squid blew out a huge cloud of ink? And so then the octopus is like, oh, where is it? And then it's like, boom. I mean, that's a hell of a strategy. We're, we're assuming a lot of intelligence. Like, I feel like if the squid came in, came in real hot, you know, and just, like used his arrow-like shape to just jab in the octopus straight up and use that rigidity of, of, of his cuddle and his cuttlefish, whatever it's called. I think that would do some good damage. But I'm going octopus for sure.

Sweet. Well, here's one for you guys. Noel Ebert asks, and just real quick, we don't have to stay on it too much longer. But what about a giant squid versus an octopus? I mean, you know, some of the squid get big enough to kill whales, sperm whales. Like, you know, the biggest octa... Regular squid? Oh, yeah.

There's giant, there's real giant squid, 100-foot-long squid, versus, you know, the biggest octopus, which I believe is the giant Pacific octopus, which, gets like, I don't know, 11 or 12 feet end to end. So it's no comparison. And by the way, per per body size, like per ratio, the squid's beak is much larger. So, you know, you're talking, if you're talking about a hundred foot squid, that beak is going to decapitate any, you know, any body. It'll chop that thing in two. Um, death. No quest. So, yeah, no, big, big giant squid wins in that one for sure. Yeah. And so just for the record, the, the largest squid ever recovered was closer to 50 feet, but I think most people think, and there are a lot of reports of

sightings and things of much bigger squid. I mean, I personally think there's tons of shit out there that's super deep that we don't know about. Yep. So if we've seen one that washed on shore that was 50 feet, there certainly could be a hundred footer that just didn't wash on shore, I think. And there's things like, and you know me, like I'm not like a, oh, you know, maybe this is out there, fucking Bigfoot kind of thing.

But like, there's, there's sucker marks and pad prints and stuff like that on the sides of whales that are from animals that are known to be like double that size, right? We've never seen them, but it's like nothing else is making a hole in a, you know, in a sperm whale that size. Right. That's fascinating, dude. That's crazy. There's so much shit out there we haven't seen, and it's very, very scary.

Patrick, I got one for you. Yeah. Got a brooster DM from Crushed Apricot, said, hey there, I'm a brooster, and I picked up that book Patrick recommended The Naked Eight. I'm about 20 pages in, and I find this fact about African wild dogs that they will often regurgitate food to their packmates so much so that it's said that they have a communal stomach. Fascinating. Would this behavior have a negative impact on their nutritional intake? Can't find any literature on it.

Thanks. I guess that's more of a thing for me. Yeah, I mean, first of all, I'm glad that, I mean, I sort of recommended the naked ape as a way of basically getting chicks. That's right. And in the human evolution a bit better, but that is super cool that he's reading. But yeah, that's definitely, I've never heard of this communal stomach thing.

Yeah, no, it's really interesting. Yeah, I mean, if you think about, what's the best way to explain this? Think about human beings, right? And when we build a new building, right? We're acting like a singular organism, right? All, everybody is, ah, yeah, this is a tough analogy, but I'm doing the best I can to articulate it.

When a bunch of people work together to build something, like I said, like a building, right? Everybody has a job. Everybody's doing one thing. Okay, you're putting in the nails, you're hammering, you know, you're bringing in the building material, blah, blah, blah. We start to act as almost a single organism with a single purpose, right? And a perfect example of that is jellyfish. So a jellyfish, for those that don't know, is not a single animal. It's millions of animals together that make up one.

single life form. That's what a jellyfish is. And so this idea of like a communal stomach of a whole lot of creatures contributing to one thing and one cause having a singular behavior is fascinating. And it's a real thing. I mean, when you start to like take a step back from your own ego and your own persona and think about how humans work, like we work like a beehive, you know, it's like all these little worker bees buzzing around to create this big hive, which is in our case like our planet, right, and altering it and changing it. We act like a singular organism if you look from like a million feet, you know, a view instead of a 30,000 foot view. And same thing with the African wild dogs in their stomach. And I think that might be a very confusing way to have described it,

but I'm trying my best to explain that like this idea that if you step back from the pack of wild dogs and you don't look at them as individuals and you go, how are they consuming this big animal and you see they're digesting it and regurgitating it and sharing it. And you go, oh, well, they have this communal stomach where they're all sharing the same meal. It's almost like they're a single organism more than they are a bunch of individuals. So that's kind of the point of-hydrozone, right? Not all jellyfish, yeah, yeah. Correct, correct, a certain group.

Yeah, but it goes back to the whole thing we were talking about in the last podcast, by the way, which people fucking were super interested in with the communication among the mycelium and all of that underground. I mean, dude, so we have humans who are basically are working together cooperating to essentially dominate the exterior crust of the earth. And then you have, you know, these mycelium doing these different ways of communicating underneath the earth. I mean, it's all just different mediums of communication, essentially. I mean, these are three examples of it, you know. So it's interesting to me.

And I want to get back to crushed Apricot's point, but John Davenport just pointed something out in the chat. He's like, you could really say that about any living creature made up of individual molecules and bacteria. And that's my exact point, right? It's like, at what step do you stand far enough back and go, oh, you know, that's more than one that, you know, when you break us down, we're a gazillion individual cells that make up, you know, a person. And when you take a step off the planet, you know, it's a million people that make up Earth, like you just said, Peter. So, yeah, I mean, you can really can say that about anything. But to circle back to crushed Abrams. Hippercot's point, you know, I just explain the communal stomach thing. He's asking, would this behavior have a negative impact on their nutritional intake? Of course it would. You know, there, but that's what's so incredible about African wild dogs, canines in general. They have these super advanced intellectual social structures where that animal, 100% the one that's regurgitating the food, 100% knows that it's not as good for itself, but it's better for the pack. It's like an act of selflessness to, you know, in encourage its packmates. And in term, it's much less selfish. And in turn, by regurgitating that food,

it's much better for that animal's well-being as a whole. So in that moment, it would be better to get the extra bite of food and keep it to myself. Right. But on a biological level, if I regurgitate this food, and I feed my packmates and I feed my offspring, my offspring's going to get larger, they're going to join the pack. They're going to be, we're now going to be more efficient hunters. My mate is going to be healthier, it's going to help me to reproduce, or it's going to help her or him to reproduce more often. So it's a very intelligent way of thinking, really, because the animal knows, yes, it's not good for me right now, but it's good for me overall by regurgitating this food and sharing what I have with my packmates, which I don't know. It's beautiful. Yeah, no, I mean, it's super interesting.

I once got into an argument with an ex of mine when I was being like, I was kind of like in this weird spiritual phase. Anyways, I got into a big argument with her about how everything is pretty much based on it's either competition or cooperation. Like in the animal world, I was talking about human specifically,

and I was like, our whole world is based on competing or you work together with people. And it seems, it's similar in like the animal kingdom. I mean, there are some animals that are successful when they are working together. There's some animals who don't work together at all. And then,

there's some animals who can only survive basically working together. Dude, there's that distinction there too. You want to go down a wormhole on altruism. Bees is fucking fascinating, dude. When I was in college, you know, I started as a bio major and you had to do like these little one credit extra classes where you'd go like four Saturdays and like listen to these two hour lectures. And I, one of the ones I did was altruism and bees. You know, that was a long fucking time ago, obviously.

But it's fascinating. the shit. The way that bees act cooperatively is like probably the coolest shit. But to answer, court, you know, I think he's asking, you know, the nutritional value. Obviously, it depends on how long it is before you regurgitate the food, right? Sure. Once the food's in the intestine, you can't regurgitate it. So it's still in the stomach. How long has it been in the stomach?

Have you all the nutritional value been taken out? Probably not. Also, you can regurgitate a lot of the fibrous material. So, yeah. It's not ideal. It's not the same as eating the food originally. Some of the nutrients have sapped out already, but that's obvious. He probably already knows that.

So, Pat, I got a question. Somebody has accused you of not really. It's actually Matt McHugh. He's been listening since day one. I think we're going to talk about him later on the air, but he pointed out how you, it seems you didn't even read The Naked Ape and that you just like talking about the book itself. No, no, I did read the exterior. I read it.

The title. No, I know. So can you give us what? I don't know. you might have already done this, but what's like, just three sentences, what should we do to get more punani? Oh, God. He did already go over this. He said it in a much better, more articulate, less creepy way than you just did. You were too drunk to remember. Take it away, Patrick.

He said that Pat said that he used the book just to hook up with chicks. I would say once he gets into the ideas of the apes who left the jungle, starting to transform into humans and how monogamy, essentially, essentially created a ton of the physical changes that happened, right? There's just a ton of little nuggets in there, man. You've got to go through. You've got to highlight it. I mean, also, by the way, there's a bunch of super undesirable shit in there,

like that females specifically evolved to be promiscuous, which there's also another book called Sperm Wars, which is essentially what that's about, is basically that human females evolved to be very promiscuous, because the more people that inseminate them, the more apes that inseminated them, the more apes or sort of evolving apes that would care for the offspring. Because if you fuck 15 people and nobody knows who the dead is,

obviously it didn't have DNA test back then. You've got 15 different male apes that are protecting the offspring, feeding the offspring. And so the trait of promiscuity actually evolved in human females, you know, it's not. Right. So in other words, to our last female, Brostner, you know, thanks for joining us. It's been great having you.

I'm sorry. No, I don't believe that all this is true. Spirm Wars isn't considered like hard science fact. It's just theory on evolution. Right. Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean, a lot of people have asked about it since you mentioned it on the last podcast. Hey, Daniel Kuhl had a cool question.

Get it? Pop up in the chat. He said, Forrest, what non-educational skills would be benefited? for a biologist, you know, planning to do my scuba cert this summer. I hunt, so I'm good with tracking. What else? That's a really, I think that's a great question, and I'm happy to address it on the air. Daniel, thanks for asking it. It's a question I get all the time, like, what can I do? So all I'm going to do is tell you what I did that worked for me. When I got down with college and I had a little bit of off time, even when I didn't, even while I was working, what I did

was rack up the experience of certifications, right? I knew I had my degree in biology. That was great. But I was like, now what? What am I going to do? I got my 100 ton ship captain's license. I got my dive masters. I got my free dive instructors. I got my EMT, my emergency medical technician. I got my wilderness medical. I kind of have to look at what's on my wall because I don't even remember anymore. And for those watching live, you can kind of see them behind me, like some of the different certificates that I acquired. But this was all in an attempt to get closer to and work with wildlife. And the reason I tell you all of this is these are things that like, you know, you get your dive masters and you're like, cool, I'm going to treat scuba diving or I'm going to

use this to get closer to marine animals or your 100-ton ship captain. And you're like, this is great or you're a free dive thing. And then you're like, crap, how does this all work together? And it doesn't. And you're like, this sucks. Like, why did I spend so much money and legitimately years of my life getting all these certs and learning all this stuff? And then when I was on naked afraid, anybody that doesn't know this, my first thing I ever did in media was on naked and afraid. It all, like, came together. Like, I was, and I'll explain what I mean in a second, but it just like, it just all clicked

in one time, and I was like, wow, this has all been useful. And I've had this experience several times since because you're out in the bush, right? I'm naked afraid. It's a survival show where you're just butt naked and you see if you can survive for 21 days. My biological expertise kicked in, and I was like, oh, like, I know what this animal is and, you know, I know what this plant is, and I can identify this thing based on its leaf structure, blah, blah, blah. And then, like, my free diving skills kicked in, and I could free dive for my own food.

And so on and so forth. My medical skills kicked in because when I got an infection on my foot, I just took care of it. And so it just kind of all clicked. And I realized that when you utilize all of these different, when you do all these different skills, and you learn them all, Daniel, what you can do is start to apply them when you're getting out there into survival or wilderness or wildlife situations. And so, yeah, I don't know if that totally answers your question. I don't say go buy and read a textbook because I don't really think you learn anything from doing that. I would say go and do something, like get your hands dirty.

So go and take an archery course, you know, go and learn about survival, go and get your dive masters, go and get free dive certified. Like those are the things that I think really help you work in the field if that's what you want to do. Because you learn from each of those courses and you learn by doing and then you can apply those once you get out into the world. So hopefully that answers you question. Dude, I got to say, you know, when we've shot exceptional, Sincter Alive,

it's not always where we're like surviving in the woods for, for days and days. Sometimes we're in the woods for an overnight and then we go back to a hotel, you know, whatever. Right. There have been a few times where you wanted to stay out longer than what we had planned and people packed for in their day packs and stuff. And like, you've made, like, we've made forest feasts out of insects and worms and

shit that I would have had no idea. We're like, I remember one of the times in Vietnam, We just, for two days, we ate nothing but grubs and insects. Right. And I was like, it was fucking awesome. Like, it didn't even seem gross. I was just like, this is so cool. Like, I would have never, you know, just because you knew how to do all that shit.

And that's pretty rare. And that's all just from experience. Like I was saying, thank you, man. I appreciate that, Patrick. And that's it. You know, it's like, that's a perfect scenario, Patrick just laid out. It's like, I've been out here, you know, I want to stay longer. Like, I'm close to finding the animal.

I'm close to accomplishing my mission, whatever it is out in the wild world. When you have all these skill sets, you can be like, like, cool, let's just stay longer, right? Like, I don't have to go back to town for rations. Like, am I going to sleep well tonight? No, but I know that I can get enough. You know, I can build a shelter. I can make a fire. I can find enough grubs to eat. So, yeah, Matt McHugh just said it. Adapt and overcome. That's the play. Dude, oh, sorry, go ahead, return.

I think, too, it's applicable to everything. I mean, you're explaining it in the, you know, in the context of science and essentially how you're going to get this education to get to this goal of becoming a scientist or doing whatever it is that you want to do in the science field. This is applicable to my life in a similar way, but it wasn't with like nature and science. Dude, I just do stuff that like is fun for me, whether it's in the digital world or whatever, you know, like I'm figuring out fucking discord or whatever the hell it is. Like, you know, and it's just like doing things that are fun for you. And then one day you realize, wow, this stuff comes in handy to maybe make

money or like this stuff comes in handy to, to, you know, and then you kind of start putting that all together and going your own way. I mean, there's some people who are just into the way of learning. That's education. You go to school. I was terrible in high school. I went to a party school college. I could write papers and bullshit my way through,

but I couldn't even stay in a career like corporate job for more than three years at a time where I was being told what to do. So, I mean, it just kind of depends, I think, on your personality. And like, but as long as you realize what your skill set is, what makes you happy, and go out there and just do what makes you happy. It all seems to come together at some point.

And by the way, no one listening is surprised by the fact that you did terrible in high school and went to a party college. I just wanted to point that out. You almost failed out of college the first year, my friend. You told us that on the fun of the podcast. I did. Almost fail out of college for first quarter. Quick story about the time I was just talking about where we stayed in the woods and ate grubs for a couple extra days.

We were getting towards the end of an extinct or a live shoot. And my, it was with my girlfriend at the time, I was like, hey, why don't you fly out, meet us, and you can come out with us, like, into the jungle for, like, three or four days, and then we'll go on a vacation. She's like, okay, cool. And so the plan was we were going to go out two days, pack enough food for two days, pretty minimal, so it was just day packs. And, of course, that was her first, that was when Forrest was like, we were on to something. He was like, we got to stay out. So she thought she was coming out to like, you know, see some TV be shot, kind of hang out at a resort.

You know, two days later, she's like three meals a day of worms, grubs, and bugs. Yeah. Please let me go home. Yeah. It's amazing. She loved it. Oh, man. Okay.

I've got something. I've been, like, itching to talk about this. Like, like, it's been blowing my mind since I found out about this yesterday. Okay. W.T. Willie. Could you do me a favor and pull up our first ever wild times print advertisement? No, that's a score. Yeah.

Look at this. Close. Close. Ladies and gentlemen, Browsners, if you're a listener, just come and check this out on YouTube. Because Matt McHugh, aka Matt McHughchugach just went on his own accord and took out a fucking print article times with our logo. Wild Times with Forrest Galante and just added in his own very sexy text. It just says, check out this podcast. And that's like a full quarter page ad.

Matt, Matt, tell us where this is, because I don't know where you live or what newspaper this is in. But it's unfucking believable, dude. Are you kidding me? Like, what a brosner. Like, I'm going to get your name tattooed on my inner thigh. Like, you're unbelievable, dude.

You have to. Yeah. That's some legendary stuff. Much appreciated, Matt. That's super cool. My brother, I texted this to my brother, Joe, who did the logo, and he was just like, this is insane. It's insane. Fucking awesome.

And, you know, not to get too off track here. And by the way, this was from Shaver, Sheveraport, Shaveport, if English is your first language. Shreve. He said Louisiana and northern Texas, this will, I believe, be distributed in. To all you Brosners, to Matt McHughchukk in particular, but to all you Brosner's like, this is unbelievable. Like the fact that this community that we formed is so strong that people like Matt are going to go out and take ads, all the messages that you guys send us, all of the suggestions

for, you know, battle royals and ideas for things on the pot. Just thank you guys all so much. Like, I don't want to go on and on about it, but it's just like, I'm blown away by this. I've told this to, I've never said this on air, but I've said this to Patrick and Retepe a couple times before. The amount of engagement and support that comes from the Wild Times podcast trumps anything that I've ever done on television. Like, I've had the number one highest rated show on Shark Week. Basically, I've won the Super Bowl of cable television, and I get like nine tweets going, meh, Forrest Saw Shark, you know? Like, we do this fucking, we do this Wild Times podcast,

and you guys are unbelievable. Like, the amount of engagement and, like, positivity and fun that this community is, it's mind-blowing to me. So, yeah, just thank you all. Yeah, for sure. Hey, real quick, I got to, I got to get this in front of everyone. This, because this, rarely does something come across my brand new, beautiful. Take a drink. Desk. It's made out of Indian mango. It's awesome. But this one, those are nearing extinction, aren't they? This is a bloated my brain. Will, it's up to you if you want to bring up the picture. I think you kind of show. Okay, so a photo was taken in Delaware of a heron flying through the sky. Oh, I've seen this little.

Having a great day. Until you see the bottom half of the photo, an American eel, it's eaten an American eel. The American eel has burrowed through the bottom. It's eaten its way out of the stomach of the heron. So about two foot of eel is dangling out of the stomach of the heron that's still flying. Both of them are still alive. Jesus Christ. Get this. There were several eagles following the heron.

Oh, no way. And on the ground, there was a fox running along the ground underneath the heron. Oh, wow. Look at that photo. Are you kidding me? It's a little ecosystem. That's just like a fucking whale of the sky. It gives me the Wiggly.

Yeah, it does, dude. Yeah. What was this herring thing? What happened here? How did this happen? This obviously doesn't happen often. But, I mean, so what? It didn't kill it first?

How does this thing normally eat? Like, it kills it and then it eats it? No. Okay, so the heron would not necessarily kill it before eating it. You know, the way they eat, like, if you've ever seen, like, a pellet can eat a fish, right? The way they gulp the fish down kind of hole and it just slides down their gullet. Same thing has obviously happened. But I think the thing, you know, look, there's a lot to speculate.

I don't know that anybody knows. My guess would be that there is a pretty bad existing injury that this heron has. And it's torn in, what do you call it? What's that pouch where birds store stuff? Wow. Call it. No, no, there's another name. Brostner is what do you call that pouch?

Either way. It's ridiculous. It's got a pouch. It's ridiculous that I'm blanking on it. But, you're drunk. Anyway, there's a pouch where they store their food where they basically partially begin to digest it before it goes down into their stomach. It's literally called a gullet fact. No, it's a crop.

That's the name of it. That's okay. Maybe in Zimbabwe it's called a crop. We call it a gullet. Thank you, Ethan's exotic, someone who's not an idiot. Look, everybody's saying, gizzard. No, crop. Anyway, my guess is there's a bad injury to this heron's crop.

The eagle slides down and, or sorry, the eagle slides down, finds this opening in the crop and just begins to wiggle its way out, you know, likely tearing further. The bird takes off and everybody's like, oh, something's going to die here. You know, the fox, the eagles, they're all like, there's food here. That's what I was going to ask. Because it's not like eagles or the fox have some sort of instinct where it's like, when bird flies with snake hanging down, that means food. No. They just must have been like. Something. That's something was weird, and I'm going in.

I wonder if there was blood dripping down that was just like, who knows? I mean, still, yeah. Well, I mean, like, think about it. Think about it. I would be fucking looking at that shit. They're probably just like, what the hell is this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're going to be surprised with a nice meal at the end of it. They're just in being entertaining themselves right now. That picture is wild. And Retab, for anybody listening on iTunes, because we always seem to forget that people actually listen to us. and not just tune in to these silly live things.

But you will post that on Instagram. Is that correct? Okay. Yeah, of course. I always post it. Me or Will. So, by the way, last night, I was doing some research for an upcoming project, and I was watching a Smithsonian channel, which I didn't even really know that I could get.

I don't get it. I had to buy it on iTunes. They made a documentary last year several parts about Yellowstone. So I watched the first episode. I think we talked about Yellowstone a couple podcasts ago. But they follow this one story in the middle of winter, and this bobcat is attempting to hunt a duck. And he just wants to kill this duck so goddamn bad.

And, you know, bobcats aren't amazing in snow because they have kind of small feet, not a lot of surface area, and they sink down. And it is just one of the coolest threads of a wildlife show I've ever seen, because they follow him periodically throughout the episode, and he tries day after day after day. And he starts by hiding under this log and, like, the ducks just swim around him

and he doesn't get close enough. Then he tries perching on this high perch and he dives in several times and doesn't get the duck. And you just see this Bobcat's process evolving until, spoiler alert, he gets a duck. Still worth watching. It is fucking awesome.

Because everything the Bobcat does, every movement is the same exact movement. movement my cat does when she's standing at the window looking at a fucking at the hummingbird at the feeder. Right, right. Every movement. Yeah. Or my cat when it's watching a leaf blowing around on the back patio.

Dude, they're such badass predators, man. Cats are, yeah, they're amazing. Monstrous. Do you guys think that, do you guys think that the creator of, you know, like the Bugs Bunny cartoons first was, he saw this behavior in nature and he's like, okay, the duck, or I'm sorry, not Bugs Bunny. I'm talking about Wiley Coyote, the roadrunner and the fucking, where he's just chasing.

It'll stop it nothing ever for 20 years until he gets that one thing. When I was a kid and I watched that, I was always perplexed. I was like, he almost had it. Why doesn't he just try it again? He'll get that. Just do the same thing a second time and it'll work. Like, I remember always thinking that. I was like, why is he not doing that?

Like, just try it again. You were so close. Like, it was just a freak situation that it didn't work out. this one time. Hey, I think somebody pinned it, but I just want to point it out because it's bonkers good idea. Everybody started making funny you, Retap. I think they all stopped listening to us for a short while and well played and just

started writing Dinosaur Bones as Oil. And then Adam pointed out, he said, can we get a dinosaur bones is oil t-shirt, which absolutely should be one of our shirts. Retep, do you think you can make this happen? Is it? Like, legit, legit, for real. I know I said this about Mitri, you never got around to it because I started coming up too many ideas.

This one is just text on a shirt that I can do, I'll have it up next week. I don't think it should just be text. I think we need to see dinosaur bones as oil. Oh, God damn it. Fuck. Does it need to have bones in oil to do that? I don't know. I just think that's amazing.

No, it's, it's hilarious because they're watching the daily videos. By the way, thank you. Those, those take a lot of effort and work, and we love doing them. And so it's great to see the engagement on those that people are liking on. Matt McHugh just challenged all the brosters to make a pick. So, hey, that's a hell of a way to get this done. If a brosner can create a dinosaur bones is oil, pick, or logo, we're going to, we're going to definitely use it. And by the way, now everybody is your time to make fun of Papa P and his minute bladder, because he does this every show. And don't think that it's anything

to buy it. He'll come back and be like, I had to pour myself a drink. I'm super, you know, and Patrick, go, you had to pour myself a drink. I'm super, you know, I'm Patrick, go, I had to pour myself a drink. Super cool guy. No, he's peeing. He has the bladder of a nine-year-old. He's the bro. He's the producer, and he just leaves.

I get it, without saying a word, because it's not like you're like, I'll be right back, I'll be right back. Guys, you get up and you leave, but look at his screen. It's just a fucking microphone. It's nonsense. But I love that idea, but so it'll be easiest

for those pictures. DM them to me on Instagram to the Wild Times account, Or hop in the Discord even better and post it in there because that'll be fun. People look at them, vote on them, love them. So I got up to make another drink and everyone's giving me the pop of pee-pee. Does Pat think we're not going to notice? He has the bladder of a titmouse.

Yeah. You also made the mistake of taking off your headphones. That is definitely not what happened. He's back, ladies and gentlemen. Forrest is making another cook. I'm just having a whiskey. Everybody, everybody have a drink. I think it's in the rules that we,

or it should be when somebody on this podcast goes to make a drink or get a drink or Pat goes to pee, we take a drink. Cheers, mates. Hard liquor for us. I'm going to decimate you to in this battle royale. Jason, that's what I'm pouring. Jason, I'm drinking some Talusker single malt. Ah.

Yeah, that's a nice whiskey. It's real nice. Yeah, it's real smooth. So I just... Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. Somebody just said, not only does Pat look like a weasel.

He has the bad. Alex Powell. Nicely done, sir. Don't forget, Retap, you still have to shotgun a beer before the night of order. Yeah, you are doing that at the very end. Hey, so anyone who's thinking about bailing early, you still have the Battle Royale, so you don't want to miss that. And at the very end, Retap is going to shotgun a beer. Thank you, Retep.

I hear a question. He looks so unhappy about this. Yeah. I have a question for it for us. Yeah. How does the brainwomen? work. Okay.

Here's some the rantings that I came up with at about 5 a.m. last night. Why do we feel, so you sent me that video, right, of the monkey. The scalping. So I said, why do we feel like we might be able to

beat the shit out of a lion that attacks us? We might. We might be able to survive. We might be able to survive an animal attack, but not land an airplane that was crashing. if the pilot passed out. So that's my first question. Right.

Well, I'm fucking no, dude. I'm not a brain scientist. I think that... Listen, I am. Okay. All right, here's what I think. I think that we... As organisms that live on this planet

that have basically conquered it and mastered it, you know, we're at the top of the food chain, right? Like, not physically, like, if you're one-on-one with a lion, you lose, but we have the guns, right? There's very few lions left. Like, we've conquered it. So I think it's human nature to think of our ability to conquer everything in the wild world because we have done so, even though we've done it through technology and not brute force.

And an airplane doesn't fit in with that. It's not part of our DNA. It's not baked into our being part of the... That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know. That's a fucking total shot in the dark. Definitely not my area of expertise. That's my guess.

Well, it's interesting, though, because the human brain is our... advantage in the world. I mean, it consumes the majority of our body's energy when we're a child. It's why we can't walk. It's why we can't do anything. When a giraffe pops out, it can walk on four legs and, like, take a jog if it wants to. For exercise. So, I mean, you know, but I mean that, like, you know, so part of the evolution of the human brain, what's going to happen in a thousand years? Like, we're going to, like, we're so into technology right now. Who the hell knows? Like, we're going to be one with technology. Like that's going to be a part of our evolution at some point because, I mean, you look at

1980 to today. Look at how it went from nobody uses a computer to every single person uses a computer and a phone. I want to get to whatever Patrick's working at chipping away here before we dogleg too much. But Netflix just released a terrible series. I'm trying to remember what it was called. It was like an alien life series. I was super excited about it.

Added it to my list. It was like going to, in the previews that made it look like they were going to show all these alien creatures based on like human, based on known biology. And I was stoked on it. I was like, oh, this is going to be awesome. Yeah, I would think that'd be bad. Right. And it's terrible. It's so bad. It's like, it's like literally like listen to a guy talking about fucking plant biology for like 35 minutes. And then they like just show like the same crappy clip of like a plant slowly blowing in the wind in CG on like Alpha Planet or something. That sounds like Garbanzos. It's bad. But anyway, the reason I bring all that up is the fourth episode of that RETEP is they like show this, they show this planet, right? This system that has these super advanced beings that are like long beyond human evolution. And they have made themselves into machines. Like there's just these little like aquariums of brain matter and everything. They're all connected like a hive. And everything is just done by technology and these like floating brains are are what's controlling everything. And I'm like, come on Netflix. Like I tuned in to see some fucking avatar animals with some real science behind them and crazy planets. And now I'm looking at the Matrix. You know, this is bullshit. And like a bad CG version of it.

I was so disappointed. But to your point, there is like something out there that kind of supports that idea that's, you could watch if you want to watch this terrible show. Everyone, everyone in the chat is fucking hating this show, by the way. Unanimous. The one that I was talking about. Like 20 people in a row commented like, this is fucking. and the show sucks. When you go into, when you go into, when you go in,

that's what it was called. When you go into any, any media expecting one thing and you get the other, it's a bummer, man. It doesn't matter what it is, dude. Like you go into wanting to see a horror movie and it's a rom-com. Like, it's viscerally you feel you hate it. You want to kill it. You want to write a bad review on it online.

Let's get back to Patrick's point, though, of the brain. Because there was, that was going somewhere. We dog-legged it hard. No, these are just, that's the whole point of this podcast, right? Yeah, true. I think people love it when we dog-leg shit. The last podcast was all over the place,

and I was like, this is a mess. People are going to hate this. And it's like the best one we ever did, people say. So in human development, right, there's a study where they, I want to know who the people that volunteered their babies for this were. They would show babies a rabbit. right little fucking newborns and then they would blast a bullhorn right next to its head

right so you show the baby this fuzzy rabbit and then they studied these kids again when they were a little bit older like 10 years old okay and showed them rabbits and like 100% of the kids would start crying screaming hated just fucking had a vitriolic fear of rabbits yeah they're all traumatized from like But like from like when they're three months old, right?

Interesting. How's that work? I don't like that. Yeah. Like you've got to persevere, man. You got to get over shit. It's not a neuroscientist. Yeah.

You know, like our brain is so conscious of keeping us safe from threats and we catalog threats. Obviously, that's why we don't put our hand on the burner ten times. We do it once or in Retep's case four times. Yeah, at least. But it's just so. I'm just so. I'm just, man, I'm just mind blown by the human brain these days.

I think it was all our talk about mushrooms. Yeah, it must be. It's nature versus nurture, right? That's like, that's that thing, right? It's like, you, your instinct is the cute fluffy bunny is good, right? That's nature. The nurture is that you give this, like, massive negative reinforcement so that you're now terrified of this thing. Right.

The question is, how does something that you literally don't even remember psychologically scar you into, you know, 10 years later? Without even knowing why. Because I'm guessing, Patrick, and maybe you know, maybe you don't. None of those kids even remember that incident happening. None of them had negative feelings towards bunnies or whatever. But then as soon as this happened, they just broke down, right? So that's like, like there's a gap there that doesn't add up, right? Like, we always say, like, you know, it's so important in the developmental phase with babies, like what you teach them, how you nurture them, what you show them.

But, like, it just doesn't add up. It's like they don't remember any of it. But then you do this, like, terrible bullhorn experiment and they all fucking break down crying. Like, how are they, how are they subconsciously remembering that? I know that there's a part of our brain called the basal ganglia, which I asked Will just texted him to pull up a picture of a brain scan. And it's one of the first parts of the brain to form as one of your fetus, right? And they call it the old brain, and it's right in the middle of your brain. And the basal ganglia is essentially responsible for storing every fucking threat that you can have.

Right. And so they've studied people with like extreme, extreme anxiety disorders. They're, when they give them brain scans, their basal ganglia are super active. And they're hyper aware. It's not connected to the conscious part of your brain at all. You cannot retrieve a memory from it. You can't grab information from it. But it stores basically rabbit, bad.

And that's your basal ganglia essentially controlling the rest of you. And you have no conscious connection. So the front of your brain, the conscious part of your brain, isn't connected to it. They can't share. Weird. There it is. Oh, there it is. We've got a diagram of a brain.

So I've tried to illustrate this to people before Because this is something that's interesting I listened to a shitload of classic love line And I listened to it back in the day And obviously they always talk about how You know, if you had anything happened to you That was traumatic when you were a kid You're going to be a fucked up adult

And you have to go to therapy And you've got to deal with it And I was talking actually to my girlfriend about this recently sometime But it's like when you're six Imagine when you're like five, Four or six right when you start to like remember things at all.

Like you don't remember full memories. You just remember like the emotion of the memory. I feel like that's the in-between point of not remembering shit, but it's still there. And then like having, being able to actually form cohesive memories. Like are those times where you remember like I was in a basement and some adult yelled at me when I was six. I don't remember what it was about, but it was terrifying or like some shit like that's weird how you have those emotional. connections to things that you don't really even remember or understand. But it makes you feel that straight away where you're like, oh, I feel scared, I feel happy,

whatever it is. But you don't really know why or when that event took place. Oh, for sure. That's why all men love the scent of vanilla, because it reminds us of our mother's baking. And we want our girlfriend's... It is the greatest smell. I love vanilla. There is no better smell in fresh vanilla.

I don't know why almost every female's perfume is more flower-scented. It's like, just rub vanilla extract on yourself. Go to the kitchen. Go to the baking drawer. Yeah. Just put that all over your body. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Oh, man. And then send us a picture. Yeah. Go ahead. No, no. We were teps got something. The girlfriend just came in and threw a bunch of towels because she doesn't want me to get the beer that I shot gun all over the ground. It's happening.

It's happening. You have to. But, you know, we've been. We've been podding it up for an hour now. And I think, I think. It's time for everybody's favorite segment. Mm-hmm. What is that?

It's big. Battle Royale. I didn't know where you were going. I didn't know where you were going. I know. You guys were giving me no support there. I was like, I didn't know which segment you were going to. Yeah, fair enough.

I was waiting. Do we have a good battle royale lined up this week? Papa Pee, you got anything? We have loads. Loads of good battle royals. Oh, God. I have no time for prep. You don't get time for prep.

That's the whole thing. That's kind of how the game works. Okay. Would you like us to explain a snake draft to you? I'm nervous about the shotgunning of the beer, to be honest. You have to just to shotgun the beer right now just to get it over with? Yeah. You could do it now.

What do I got to do? Well, you guys figure out the battle with how a shotgun of beer. I've personally shotgun many beers with you. I have a key. I don't have a key in here. I normally, like, make the whole way. There are other instruments that will puncture that. There are a thin piece of aluminum.

Listen, I'm on, we're live here. I got to improvise live. Okay. What the fuck? So what do I do? I pop a hole in this. Yeah, you know what to do. Let's get through this.

Then we're going to battle royale. Popapie's working on a battle royale for tonight. Well, you introed it and we hadn't picked it, son of a bitch. It's true, but, you know, this is an off-the-cuff kind of show. All right. So I think this was submitted by a brosner. I like it. Hold on.

There you go. All right. Okay. If you are, if you're listening on iTunes, Retep, the professor with the top-not, is He's kind of shotgun of beer in his living room. He's punctured it. His face is contorted. Like, he's terrified.

He did it wrong. That's not how you do it. He did it wrong. Look at the spillage. He did it wrong. You're supposed to drink out of the hole. And pop the top. Are you kidding me?

Aren't you from Chicago? Yeah. I think you should do another one. I'm okay with that. Yeah, you got to do another one. So what do I? Redeem thyself. Tell me.

You punctual. Go ahead for us. Make the hole. So make the hole first. Should I have that this facing? That facing up. Yes. Make the hole.

Nope. Lower down. Lower down on the can. No, another way. Yep. There. That's it. Then cover it up with your thumb.

Now, yep. There. Okay. Now cover it with your thumb. He's destroying all of his technology. Your step's going to go through a breakup right after this. He sure is. Cover it with your thumb.

All right. I'm sorry, Brousner, that you have to sit through this. I'm sure it's painful for you, but it's even more painful for us teaching them how to do it. Cover it with your thumb. Hold it upright. No, no. Oh, my God, get it again. You drink out the hole.

Oh, my God. It's a disaster. All right. We're going to revisit this at a later day. We're going to have to work on this. All right. Brozner, please tear him to shreds. I mean, thank you for trying RETAP.

I love you. That was great. Everyone was sufficiently entertained. On the next podcast, Forrest will properly shock it. Correct. Correct. Listen, if my computer fucking turns off, it's because there's beer underneath the keyboard. Oh, you got a drink from the hole, mate.

You could just open the can if you're just going to chug it. Yeah, that did. You guys, listen, I've done it. You guys are deaf 100%. Next live, 100%. That's fine. Forrest and I will both do it. We're in.

All right. So here's a battle royale for us. Thank you, Retepp. I haven't left that hard in minutes. That was amazing, Retep. Yeah, thank you. All right. So you guys are welcome.

Love you, Broussner. That was for you. You are a gorilla in the zoo. I am. This is the battle royal. Oh. You shared a cage with rest in peace, Harambe, the gorilla.

Right? Brosner submitted this. I didn't have a lot of prep. Now, you're worried that they're going to be coming for you next. Okay. You have to gather three items from your enclosure to use as weapons against the evil zookeepers. Okay, got it. So you're in her—I got it.

Okay. what things are in a guerrillas enclosure that you can use to battle your evil zookeeper? Everyone hates this. Everyone hates this. F, F, F. Dude, I didn't have time to prepare. Pick one that's dropped in. They always fucking put a thousand.

Also in the Discord there's a bunch of guys. I don't know what to do. Someone pick one. Jesus. The five that will. Hang on, hang on. I'll distract everybody while you guys figure out. Here, I'll come up with them.

I got one. Okay. All right. You're sent into space as the sole representative of Earth. Okay? With you to explain to the alien race that you are going to connect with. NASA has mandated that you bring three animals for the trip. Right?

Oh, I like it. Why are you bringing them? Are you bringing them for protection? Are you bringing them for food? Are you bringing them to appease your alien? You know, people that you're meeting or creatures that you're meeting. What are your three? Why are you bringing them?

How's that? Three animals on our space adventure trip. Are we ever coming back or are we going to colonize a new planet? And I think that depends on the animals you bring. Okay. All right. I know what I'm going to do. Do we know that there's alien life forms on the other planet?

We do. We know that we're going to make contact for the first time in this hypothetical. Okay. And so you've got to bring three animals. We don't know if they're going to be violent. We don't know if they're going to be friendly. We just don't know. But you got to bring these three animals.

Good luck. All right. Can I go first? Good luck. You can. Okay. It's a snake draft. I'm going to be nervous.

Okay. On the entire flight slash whatever we call it. Would assume so. Yeah. So I want an animal that's going to comfort me and make my basal ganglia less active. And so I'm not just dying of a fucking heart attack. Okay. I'm going to bring the common domestic short hair house cat.

It's going to sit on my lap. What's your logic behind this? When you pet a cat, are you doing that for the cat? Are you doing that for yourself? Right? So you're going to doctor evil as you go up. I will be stroking. Exactly.

So I'm going to bring a domestic short hair cat, and I'm going to be cool as a cucumber when the spaceship doors open, and I greet the aliens. Very nice. Very nice. Retep, you can go out. So he's going with basically the animal version of Xanax to get him through the... It's very clever, actually.

When you phrase it like that, it's very clever. Let me go second, because that means that I go, I do all my three guesses at this time, right? That's how that works. So my first guess will be... Just take herpes and get it over with. I didn't... No, I didn't think that this was a bad idea. as I normally do from pet, because I also get very anxious on flights.

In this case, I'll probably bring a bottle of Xanax, but I'm also going to bring with me an animal that can not only be something I can pet that will love me, this will be a trained, a very, very highly trained orangutang. Okay, because... Because he can also, not only will he, not only will he be there to quell my anxiety, He will be able to help me. Yeah, nothing's more relaxing than an orangutan staring you in the eyes. That's usually when I just fall asleep in a cage.

He's very trained. By the way, the Xanax is not just for me. In case the monkey gets out of hand. Good pick shirtless for Tep. He is shirtless because he spilled beer all over himself for those listening on iTunes. Forrest, you got two. What do you got? I got two.

Yep. Oh, God. Speaking of Harambi. So I'm going to go. Too soon, too soon. I'm going to go with a different approach, right? Patrick, you're going anxiety reduction. Retep, apparently your orangutan's going anxiety reduction, but also security, correct?

Yeah, double-banger. Yeah. So I'm going to attempt to appease my alien counterparts, right? So I'm going to take with me, it's real simple, straight off the bat. I'm going to take with me a nice cow. You know, I've got milk. I've got meat if I need it, if these are, if these are, are violent creatures and they're looking at me licking their lips, eat the cow.

Yeah. You try a cup of milk or eat the cow. I don't care. But, you know, here is my sacrifice creature. And that's what I'm going to lead with. I'm just going to lead with a nice, big old cow. Now that's going to be a nightmare on the space station. But, you know, until we get there, then when we get there, we go with the cow.

So I'm leading with that. Now, that's play one, right? That's my sacrifice animal. Play two is my protection animal. because if we get off, make contact, these creatures are just feasting on the cow, I know I'm in trouble, which means I need a protection creature, right? Something that's going to fight for me while I get my ass back on the spaceship. Yeah, that's my play here.

So, you know, I like it. It's not bad. And what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking with that being the case is that I need something that can take on just a lot at once, right? I'm talking, you know, this is a colony of aliens we're going to connect with. So I'm just going to bring just a fucking pissed off elephant. So I can feed it the cow and just be like, destruct. You know, it's like releasing Godzilla.

If you release a pissed off elephant, it's like releasing Godzilla. Too bad your spaceship's going to run out of fuel, mate. That's very heavy. Yeah, it's going to be real heavy. It's going to be real heavy. You're adding 5,000 pounds, and you're also banking on the 1% chance that in all of the universe where your spaceship goes, that you're going to run into another alien life form, not only that is not a tiny bacteria, but one that will be a threat that can try and attack

them. They're a little three-foot-tall. These are my picks, okay? All right. Good picks for us, except for the fact that the fuel economy of your spaceship is trash. All right. Daniel Cool just pointed out there is no weight in space. So just got to get off the planet.

somewhere. But you got to get... Yeah, you got to get off the planet with a fucking elephant in your space shot. Hey, don't you worry about my spacebar? You just go to your pick. Well, look, Retep's BAC is going up at like 0.01 per second here, so let's

let him get his second pick before he's do shit face. Smart. Okay, well, this was going to be my first pick, and it was now already mentioned in the Brosner chat on YouTube Live. I didn't want to go with this first because it's,

It's just the obvious pick for pretty much any battle royale you've ever been in involving animals. And this, my friends, will be herpes. No, just kidding. It will be an octopus. You stole what am I? It's many, with its many tentacles. And, well, I mean, it's fine. It would have to be an, I'll have to give it an oxygen breathing mask so that it can do.

Or just put it in a solar tank. See, I assumed you were going to say octopus because you were going to be like, I'm just taking it. home. You know, he's just going to talk to his friends and then everything's going to be fine. I've always wanted an octopus. Yeah, I've just always wanted an octopus. No, but for real, my logic was that he could hold tools for me if I have to repair the ship. If I, he's, you know, he can camouflage yourself, and that would just be cool. I don't know. The obvious logic was that he would maybe, that would be octopus would be the life form and he would be like, don't hurt. Yeah. My friend, it was, the logic was very

And you went a very weird direction. No, it's because he can hold eight hammers at once. How are you going to apply your logic to my goddamn pick? Fuck you and your elephant. I don't even know what your first pick was. All right. So you stole one of my picks, which allows me because I was torn. So I have two.

So I've got my cat. That's for me. Okay? That's not for the alien fellas and ladies. So my second pick, I'm going to go the opposite of Forrest. Forrest's going to try to intimidate these life forms. with his large elephant. I'm going to go the other way.

I'm going to try to be endearing to them. So I'm going to bring a slow loris with me. Oh, adorable. They're cute. They have gigantic eyes. And here's what's going to happen. When the spaceship doors open and I'm about to be greeted by the aliens, I'm going to be like sort of bowing and praying to the slow lorice.

So that they're going to look at the slow lorris and be like, oh, that's the one who's in charge. oh, that thing's really cute. Let's be nice to these people and things. That's good. All right. So slow Loris is one. All right.

So that's your, that is your entity. So you are going to represent Earth as being ruled by the slow Laris to these alien life. Because why put all your cards on the table ever? In a negotiation, you don't just come out with everything right at once. True. Right? So make them think Slow Loras is the boss. And then, in case all hell breaks loose and this shit starts going.

bad. I will have my third creature in my back pocket. It's going to be a petri dish full of the fast-spreading, fast-killing, Ebola virus. It's a weird animal.

Dude, this is this is bananas. Why? Because if I start getting word, one, that they're planning to eradicate Earth, right, they have some sort of crazy laser beam that they're just going to blow it up, colonize Earth to take our water,

anything like that, I can unleash the Ebola virus in my petri dish and then take off back to Earth with my cat and slow Loris. Interesting. Okay. Those are good picks. It's all over the map. Let's go. Tapp.

What do you got? All right. Well, while you guys were yammering, I googled which animal can do you make food? Apparently, there are none. So I had to reassess. recess my evaluation of which animal I'd like to bring. And that animal, my friends, will be not just one animal, kind of one animal, but a beehive full of bees that can do work for me.

You're going to make some meat? Patrick's favorite drink? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how they make the foods. I'm just going to bring them and I'm going to let them make it. I'll drink it. They're going to make it.

It was between that and a dolphin. I don't know. But I can't have two aquatic animals in space. Which animals is oil? Which animals can make booze? I like how there was no like, I don't know how they make booze. I don't know what kind of booze. It's just they'll make the booze.

I'll drink the booze. Well, the first article that came up was these animals are out. I fucking closed it. But it was basically these animals are alcoholics. These seven animals are alcoholics. A quick tidbit on that. Some, in almost exactly. the same percentage in bees as in humans are alcoholics.

Uh-huh. And they will eat, yeah, they'll go out. They'll eat the fermented fruit. And when they come back to the hive drunk, the other bees won't let them in the hive when they're drunk. Fact. Oh, wow. Wow.

It's like a bee bouncer. I've been there, man. Come on, man. I feel for those bees. It makes me want to take bees on my space trip even more. Okay. So I got one left. Peter gets stung to death on his way to Mars.

So what's next? We'll sum it up after that. So I've got my cow. That's my food animal. That's my sacrificial beast. You have some milk, have some meat, you know, enjoy. Like, please, please let, this is a token of good faith. Right?

I have my elephant for when shit goes sideways. You know, let's release the elephant, let things go crazy. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. And assuming it doesn't come to that, now that I've got those two out of the way, I want an animal that aliens are just going to be like, wow, this is great. You know, like if this is what Earth is full of, maybe Earth's not a bad place. Maybe we shouldn't blow it up. Maybe we should go hang out there and, you know, reveal ourselves to Joe Rogan.

Yeah, so I'm just, it's like a little bit along Papa Peas lines. It's a bit of a cop out. I'm going to bring my dog, you know? I'm just going to everybody likes my dog. You know what? Nobody's ever met my dog and been like your dog sucks. You know, like if I run, he's going to run. I know he's going to be my feet at all times.

You know, like if we have to make a quick escape, we'll go together. If we're going down, we're going down together. So, yeah, I'm bringing space pop. I can't, I have to interrupt. An elephant, your dog, and a fucking cow is what my, what a one-year-old would come up with. I'm a simple man, Ritap, okay? Listen, mine might not be, mine might not be stellar, okay? but it is much, much more sophisticated

and a better, better royale than that is. Well, Kristen Nicole said thousand percent she's bringing her bulldog chubs Peterson. So, you know, I'm not the only one who wants to bring their pet. Both of you guys literally based most of your picks on the fact that you would be encountering aliens.

That was a game. I, listen. No. Oh, God. Well, I didn't even hear that part because I was cleaning up the beer on the ground over there. from the rolling. But I do want to give just a nod to WT. Willie.

He said that we should take the toad that makes you trip when you lick it. And I wish I had picked that. So to sum it up, before we call it a night here, gentlemen. And Broessner is, if you want to weigh in, look, you can vote here. You can vote on iTunes and leave us a five-star review. That helps us the most. You can let us know on YouTube. Whatever.

Papa P. has got a house cat for anxiety. Basically, the animal version of Xanax. He's got a slow laris to act as the ruler of Earth. He's going to worship it. He's going to let the aliens know this is what Earth is ruled by, like this cute, adorable, cuddly creature. And in case the aliens are not susceptible or they're not interested in that, he's bringing a petri dish of Ebola to unleash hell on them before they come to Earth.

Yep. that is there for both protection and comfort, as well as an octopus, because it has eight arms and can carry eight hammers, I think, was the reason, not because octopus are from out of space. Well,

I didn't hear the part that we were actually encountering. Oh, God damn it. Why don't we'll have to do that? And then a hive of bees because bees make alcohol. Me. Speaking of bees,

Leonard Beelin, on the chat says you can also vote in the Discord. So, there you go. It's an app. And for those who don't know what we're talking about. It's an app. You download it.

I just discovered it. It's pretty fucking fun. It's pretty fun. The link is in our bio on Instagram. Go there. Click it, download the app. I will say this. If I want everybody,

it's important that you go to iTunes and vote, yes. But it's even more important. If you do what I did when I first started hitting on my girlfriend, I told her that I was having conversations with friends that were our battle royals, like the Easter basket.

I was like, what would you have in your Easter basket if you had an Easter basket? And then it was a very good conversation starter. So if you want to hit on girls or anything else, just tell your friends about this podcast. Perfect sense. Only your cool friends, though. Don't tell any of those shitty fucking assholes that we just keep hanging around. For years and years, even though I hate that. Just tell your cool friends that was that way in Chicago.

Will. All right. And then, Forrest, what did you have in the Battle Royal? Huh? He's probably worse than a base. I had a cow which can provide milk and meat. I had an elephant in case shit goes sideways. I'm just going to let the elephant just wreak havoc while I escape.

And I had my dog with me for comfort because I'm not going to space without my pup. Very smart. Early returns on the live. Ali Taggart says Retep would have won, but the way he shotguned those beers immediately disqualified. qualified him. That's accurate. Listen, I'm the only one that just wants to stick around and bullshit for a while, so I don't even know how I'm going to do that.

All right. Fuck you. Thank you, everybody on the YouTube Live. This has been really fun. Hey, we can't do much else on a Friday night, so why not hang out, drink, and talk some shit? Love you guys. That's what's up. Cheers, everybody.

Good night. I'm going to go pee now. Oh, boy. Start wearing a diaper on these.