Wild Times: Wildlife Education - TWT #80 - The Worst Shark Attack in History, Dolphin Protects Diver (Again), & BMI is a Farce

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

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Wild Times. There it is. Yeah, baby. All right, we are back. It is the Wild Times. Episode number 80. That's a lot of episodes. It's a lot of weeks that we have done the Wild Times.

There's lots going on. This is the greatest episode ever. I'm pretty sure. Haven't done it yet, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be the best one yet. Episode number 80, it's a big number. We always said episode 80 was going to be the one, the cherry. The one that we show everybody. So let's not fucking up.

Exactly. This is big. I am your host, Forrest Galante, the broologist. Joining me tonight and always is Papa Pen Pic. Pieda. Puckin's up ready. Yep. All right. Try that again.

Papa Pen Clicker himself. Papa Pee. Patrick DeLuca. The broducer. What's going on, Papa P? Hey, man. I'm excited that we're back. We have a real good top three DFL, a themed one coming up.

and I'm like really searching my brain because I want to win this one. Who's vacuuming? Is somebody coming after somebody with a chainsaw? What the fuck is going on? It's definitely at Patrick's house. So we got about an inch and a half of rain in L.A. And one of my pepper trees,

I have two pepper trees in the backyard that grow these pink peppercorns. So about a 30-foot tree fell into the pool from two inches of rain. But here's the good news. I don't know how it's possible, but the roots are still intact. So we have pinned the tree up

and tied it to the fence and saved it. That's great. And now they're running a vacuum for some reason. I was going to say, what's that I'm doing with a vacuum cleaner? Well, that's, yeah. By the way, those Chilean peppers, I think they're called, those pink peppercorns, they're really good. Put them in a pepper grinder.

Like, dude, they're delicious. They're spicy. Oh, man. They're sweet. Yeah, they're nice. Pop a couple up your wreath run. All right. I know.

Yeah. The urethra jokes because I still haven't introduced you. We're trying to fucking pitch this. This is the episode. Oh, that's right. See what the real shit is. Yep. That's about urethra peppers.

And the guy with the big ideas over there, the PhD in podcasting, the professor, Mr. Rete. How you doing her, Tep? Good evening, gentlemen. Happy to be here today. I am doing great. My house is full of boxes because I'm moving. That is why I love. look like I'm in a box right now.

And I hope that we don't have to listen to the chainsaw massacre going on. Speaking of having to listen to shit, I have listened to you, bitch, moan, gripe, complain, rant, scream and shout for 10 years straight about how much you despise the city of Los Angeles. You will tell anyone who will listen how much you hate it. And you have decided to purchase a home. Congratulations. You get your keys today.

It's not in Los Angeles. mate Ventura County. Thank you. Is Simi Valley in Ventura County? Yeah. It's in Simi Valley and then the other thing is, you know, you don't have a choice when you're in a monogamous relationship. There it is. There it is. Very nice. No, I'm stoked.

Yeah, good. That's exciting for you. So I hear you have other big news. Somebody told me that you're just jacked and skinny. Now, what's that all about? Definitely not jacked. Jacking off with peppers in my peehole. but, sorry. So wait, what's this about?

Have you been dieting? You've lost 15 pounds? What's that all about? Tell us the story. 17 pounds. That's a type of guy who gets like semi, I'm an addict. So I get addicted to certain behaviors and things. And my most recent one was I found this book.

It's called How Not to Diet. Okay. Sounds like a bad start for losing weight, but please continue. No, either a bad start or a brilliant. Brilliant guy who wrote it. No, so he's a doctor, right? And he wrote this book, and it's all science-based. And so everything is a study.

All double-blind placebo studies on how you can lose weight, basically. And it's a thousand fucking pages. I haven't read the whole thing yet, but I've read a good chunk of it. But the guy donates all the money to fucking charities. Like, he doesn't take any of the profits from the speed engagement. So I was like, okay, like, this sounds legit. So I check out this book. and essentially one of the main things I took from the book

after reading many hundreds of pages is you need to eat if you want to lose weight you have to eat a shitload more fiber plant based fiber and that's it and it does it's not just because you know it's a whole array of it does a whole array of things dude it makes you shit out yeah it helps you yeah it makes you shit out more fat you shit yourself skinny that's the play well no see here's the thing here's the thing And I didn't believe this until I did it. You stop farting as much after eating a lot of beans for like a month.

Your body gets used to it. I swear to God, you got to eat. I've been eating fucking basically three and a half servings of beans a day, which is three and a half cups. And, you know, I've lost 17 pounds doing it over like a month and a half. What kind of beans are you eating? I feel like there's like two kinds of beans. There's like black beans. Black and chickpeas.

Chickpeas are even better for you because they have more protein in them. Can you just eat hummus or do you have to eat? Hummus, yeah? No, I mean, it's supposed to be, I'm fucking lazy. It's supposed to be a well-rounded like thing. But, you know, I want to get the fucking beans in. So I eat a can of beans without warming them up out of the can. And I'm like, good.

My beans are done for the day. I don't have to eat it. That's how I feed my canine. Okay. Well, that's good. Good for you, man. That's great. But so if anybody wants to do this shit, and I'm not promoting it, you guys are the ones that are asking, and I've been obsessed with it for a month.

There's a fucking free app that's completely free that I've been using and sending Patrick's screen grabs of my weight decline. It's just called the Daily Dozen, and you basically tick off all the things he talks about in the books, and you hit the little eye, and it tells you like, oh, if you eat this, there's a study that said, or they tested 30 women or whatever, they, they, ate cumin for lunch and dinner every day, and they lost an average... Human? Human, yeah. I thought he said human. Human. Human.

But anyways, it explains every little thing. It's a free app. If you're looking to lose weight, get the daily dozen app and send your screen grabs to Pat via DM that's at the Spiceman on Instagram. So, Forrest, we talked about... Yeah, we talked about during season one of Extincter Alive, we were just sending lists to each other. I was mostly just using Wikipedia saying, what do you think of this?

What do you think of this? One of the ones that we talked about was the La Palma Giant Lizard. La Palma is an island in the Atlantic. Canary Islands. We didn't end up doing it for what was the reason why it wasn't interested in?

I think Animal Planet wasn't interested in lizards. It's like a 12-inch long lizard. They're like, no, that's not for us. When you said giant, we thought it was 25 feet long. Correct, exactly. Yeah. But have you guys seen in the news? Like La Palma is an active volcano.

The whole island is that it's horrifically erupted? No, I have not seen that. Oh, boy. It is a massive, I mean, like, everything is like under like 20 feet of ash, dude. Yeah. Huge lava flows. Oh, yeah. Look at that.

It's gnarly. Really gnarly. And there's a ton of, there's a lot of stray dogs on the island for whatever. reason. Not anymore. People moved on to the island in the year 2000. Oh, but on the edges,

a lot of the dogs have made it out to the outskirts of the island, and they're separated out by these big lava flows, right? So there's all these stray dogs that are alive, and they can see them from helicopters,

and they are using drones to drop them food to keep them alive until they can be rescued. I thought that was awesome. That's fantastic. Oh, my God, don't let Mitch hear about this.

He'll be on the next flight over there. Anything to do that? nerd out with a drill. I just love that there was funding for this. Yeah, that's amazing. That's for sure. Huh. That's cool.

Yeah, it's funny, because when you said that, I did not know that that was La Pama Island, but I had seen some of the pictures and news stories floating around of the volcano and just sort of hadn't connected the mental dots. I just didn't realize that's where it was happening. So not looking good for our likely already extinct lizard either. I was going to say we could do a quick episode of the extinct or a live game. La Palma giant lizard.

Extinct. Not good. Poor bastard. I mean, dude, we went to Fernandina, obviously. We've talked about it at length. What an amazing place it was. It's basically just a little fucking protected paradise full of penguins,

iguanas, seals, one living Fernandina tortoise. If that thing blew like this, it would be devastating. Oh, yeah. I would legitimately cry for like two days. Straight up. No, yeah.

That's crazy. Well, that's really cool that they're using the drones to feed those dogs. Not good for the lizards or the inhabitants. Are they evacuating the island? Is it just part of the island? I haven't heard anything about it. Don't know if they evacuated in time. I did see a couple videos where people were standing on their roofs trying to basically

digging down into the ash and like exposing the roof of their house. Oh, my God. That's crazy. It's not looking good. You know what the problem with society today is? I saw the headline of this on Reddit the other day in the conspiracy subreddit. It had like several hundred upvotes and a bunch of comments. And somebody, you know, it was like a conspiracy about the powers that be are trying to do this or that.

I'm just like, what? Like what you think that's... As in the powers that be made the volcano erupt? Like the elites. Yeah. And it's some agenda they have. And don't get me wrong. Like, here's the thing.

When something happens, people capitalize on it. People exploit it. Of course. But it's like, it's just such nonsense. And I was like, all these people are like agreeing. And I'm like, are these people, are they dumb or are they just angry? I don't really know at this point. Anything that goes out there, every headline ends up in conspiracy if it's big news.

And they're just like, it's just full of like, miss. information crazy shit. And I'm just like, man, what happened to the good old fucking conspiracies that were about aliens and fucking UFOs and shit, man? It's all like, it's all crazy shit. The Illuminati made the volcano go off. Forrest, did you see, uh, do you see anything in the news that caught your fancy? I got one more thing, but I'll let you go next. Uh, there's a couple kind of interesting things. I think my favorite slash arguably the worst slash I'm not actually against it thing was did you see there was a headline in the Daily Mail, one of the greatest news publications of all time.

Monkey business. Japanese bar where you are served by a waitress who is cute, furry, and paid in bananas. That's right. A restaurant in Japan has been using macaques as waiters for 30 years, I think, or 29 years.

And they have these little macaques dressed up in like pretty adorable little skirts and shirts and they're running around with bottles of sake and, uh, and a sigh beer and dropping it off at your table. And it's freaking rat. Now, do you think they hired the same macaque that stole your iPhone and tried to scam you out of all that money?

This is a good question. And I'm very impressed that you remember that and that it was a macaque. But no, it's not the same one, but it does further prove my point as to what these things are capable of, though. I mean, they are little kleptos. Dude, did you see the video that was going around this week of the, I think it was called like a rough something dolphin, a rough-toothed dolphin that bombed in on those scuba divers to protect them from the shark? I saw the headline. I did not look at it. Is it cool?

The video is actually pretty cool because, you know, as the divers, they say basically like, the shark just came in for a look, like it didn't do anything menacing. but this dolphin just bombs in out of the deep blue water and it starts like literally like herding the shark. It's like swimming circles around it and it's like clearly protecting the people, I would say. It really looks like the dolphin is looking out for them. Oh, and it's a oceanic white tip, which are pretty menacing sharks too.

Hell yeah. They're notoriously toothy. By the way, very surprised you didn't comment on monkey waiters there, Patrick. But I'm watching this video. Yeah, no, that dolphin's definitely pushing that shark off. They're amazing. Dolphins are so cool. But why would the dolphin do this?

Like what is it just like that those are mammals I need to look out for mammals? Yeah, I mean, it's not the first time in history that we've heard about this. Like this is sort of a known behavior that we've seen a bunch of different times, dolphins, whales, even orcas coming in and protecting, protecting being the key word, divers from sharks. There's like a lot of swimmers, all kinds of things. There's a lot of stories of this happening, and they've always just sort of been tall tales, but here is an actual, you know, video recording of a dolphin coming in and sort of swimming circles around these people to keep the shark away.

I think that dolphins sort of look at us people as kind of friends, and I know that sounds ridiculous, and, you know, they look out for people. I don't know how else to put it. They've just been known to do this a couple different times. By the way, the body language of that shark is not overly aggressive. You know, it doesn't have an archback or lock pectoral fins. Like, it's sort of just cruising in to check them out. My guess is these divers are probably checking out. They're probably there to dive with the shark to begin with.

Hard to say, but no, totally looks like this dolphin is sort of having a freak out and being like, get away, get away, get away. Right. Right. It's panicking. Yeah. Which is pretty, I mean, it's amazing. Like I said, there are all these, like, legends and rumors of marine mammals doing this to protect people. There's even one of a dolphin pushing a guy to shore when there was a great white shark around. And yeah, I don't know. Here's video evidence of it. Pretty cool.

Very cool. Oceanic white tips, they tend to swim in pretty big schools sometimes, right? They can do. I mean, they're a solitary shark, but they feed off of cues of each other. So when there's a shipwreck, when there's a dying whale, whatever it is, they all sort of converge because they're out kind of drifting in ones or twos out in the open water. And then as soon as they hear or smell something, they sort of get pulled in from every direction to whatever that thing happens to be.

So, like, I mean, we've never really talked about it on the show. The USS Indianapolis, they typically thought that it was a bunch of oceanic white tips that ate possibly hundreds of U.S. Navy's semen. You just wanted to say semen. 300 of them, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, so USS Indianapolis. Actually, this is a fun topic. Should we get on a little bit of a wormhole here?

Yeah, we absolutely should. I mean, it's literally one of the most interesting things that's ever happened. So for those that don't know, the USS Indianapolis, and I'm going to turn this over to Patrick because he's got some really in-depth and interesting sort of backstory on the sinking of the ship. You remember Patrick when we were researching it for that show, the History Channel show? And I'll turn that over to Patrick because he's got some interesting sort of more historical data. but the data that I remember, or rather the information, was so USS Indianapolis set out and was bombed and went down, right?

And I'll let Patrick explain that and the motives behind it. And there's some interesting stuff there. But what was so interesting is that what occurred after the bombing, only maybe a couple people were hurt, if any, on the ship actually being struck. What occurred after that was the second largest human mass murder by wildlife in history. And 300 soldiers that had basically hit the water and were just kind of treading water waiting for life rafts and whatnot were allegedly attacked and killed in a frenzy by sharks and without any doubt in the location that had happened These were oceanic white tips now this was I don't remember the year but long enough ago that it was before the 93% decline in shark populations that we've had worldwide

So there would have been a hell of a lot of oceanic white tips and ocean Hispanic white tits or anybody that's ever been in the water with them. They're very erratic. They're very aggressive and more than anything, as I explained, they're solitary. So when they come together, they feel competition with each other. So what happened was the ship went down. There was all this noise, this explosion, this chaos in the water. Sharks started to show up and more and more sharks started to show up and people started panicking. And as the people started panicking, the sharks got excited. As the sharks got excited, they started competing with each other to be like, oh, you're going to bite that guy's leg? I'm going to bite his groin and his leg, you know,

and like just started freaking out and revving each other up to the point that, according to old tales, the ocean turned red with blood as 300 people in an overnight span were attacked and killed and bled and eaten to death by this frenzy of oceanic white tips, which is unbelievable because, you know, I know that people have tried to simulate this to see this happen. happen again by like making noises in the ocean and putting blood in the ocean and been unable to have this happen a second time in that manner. So, you know, it's something where only real organic like fear and chaos can lead to such a crazy animal encounter. Yeah. I mean, it was torpedoed, right? So you've already got this big explosion. Then you've got

the boat going down. People are thrashing around 100, I think like 900 people or something like that went into the water. Right. And so you've got all this thrashing, then a couple bites happen, and then you're saying just from there, it's just every-mash-escalation. Every white-tip shark in the area comes bombing in. Yeah. Could you bonk? And by the way, these sharks, sorry, Retap, I do want to hear your reaction, but these sharks are notorious for actually following large ships because they kind of eat more or less anything. So these sharks would follow these ships to begin with and wait for sailors to dump their garbage and stuff overboard.

And then, in addition to that, they're known to be attracted by sound. So this big explosion was like ringing a dinner bell throughout the South Pacific. It was literally calling in, because, you know, sound travels, what is it, 15 times faster underwater or something like that. It might even be more than that. Way faster underwater. So it's like, this explosion was probably heard for like 150 miles. And every shark, every oceanic white tip that heard it was like, oh, that's where dinner's

coming from and just turned and headed towards it and it just got chaos. Bro, the, the terror and the whore, if you were in the fucking water, I mean, it's unimaginable how terrible that would be. Like, that's like you're in fucking just a war. You're like, you're on the battlefield, but worse, you're just watching everybody helplessly getting, like, that shit terrifies me, man. I'm not happy. Oh, yeah, God, dark outside.

Oh, and it was night. Yeah, it was pitch black when... You got your life fest on. I mean, these guys have been through a ton already, right? So this ship, the USS Indianapolis was like the pride and joy of Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was the president. He had used it to... He had taken trips to Europe in it. He loved the ship.

He'd been on three long trips in it. The ship's at Pearl Harbor in December of 41. And a day before the attack on Pearl Harbor, everyone's out on Shore Leave. everyone's out on shore leave captain gets a call or a message or whatever and he's like they're like get just go go and he's like I got

three quarters of my fucking cruise on shore leave they're like go now hmm interesting then the Pearl Harbor attack happens the Roos of the Indianapolis was spared four years later they pick up this mysterious payload

and these mysterious guys and they know they're being lied to they're not let off the ship And it turns out that those were the bombs that the U.S. dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So they basically went, delivered those bombs, I think in Guam, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure, I might be wrong about that, delivered this mysterious payload. And they weren't let off the ship there, which was very unusual. And then they're basically said, just go on this, they're told, go on this heading. And they're sent in the heading of a place where three Japanese subs had just blown up.

another ship a couple days before. They were never told. They weren't given that intel. So they're just cruising through the South Pacific on a random mission that they don't even actually know what exactly they're going to do next. And they get hit by one of these subs

that had just blown up another ship. No one was told. They go down in the water. You hit the water. You've been through all this shit. Probably a bunch of your buddies died at Pearl Harbor. You know, you've been through all this stuff and you go, well, at least the water's warm.

Fliasted. But to read through the lines of Patrick's story and you'll like this as our resident conspiracy weirdo, there is something Yeah, you're following, but just to make it clear, there is something definitely a miss because like Patrick said, the ship was sent away from Pearl Harbor before Pearl Harbor happened.

They were told not to unload when they got to Guam or wherever it was. You know, they got sent on this course heading that they didn't know why. The fact, the information that the Japanese subs were there was deliberately left out. And this is all, like, very well documented. Patrick and I did a show on this for the history channel called Face the Beast, and this was one of the episodes that we looked into.

And we did a lot of research on it. And it was, it's very well documented. Like, this isn't like a wild conspiracy theory. It's like, why does so many pieces of this puzzle not add up? Like, why are, why were all the, why did all these things happen in this particular order. It's very strange. Sure. Yeah. I mean, when it's, when it's factual

and it's logged in history and written down and you can follow the thread, you know, that's more than this wild conspiracy theory, especially when it's something like that, dude. I mean, and then the end result. Do you think

that... Well, the real question is, was it sharks or was it, you know, robot soldiers under the water there? Robot soldiers, dude. Of course. But, I mean, you know, we were so, we were, you know, we were so concerned, the U.S. was so concerned about Russia stealing our nuclear secrets that it's, you know, it was very easy for them to go, well, how do we get rid of these 900 fucking guys? Send them in the path of those fucking torpedo subs. So they get hit. And then ultimately their captain gets court-martialed and spends a bunch of time in prison.

The captain survived? The captain survived. they said he wasn't doing the proper zigzag pattern that he was instructed to do, even though years, after he spent years in prison, he was retried and it came out that he had done everything he was asked to do. Like he just, they needed to blame someone, so they blamed him. Wow. Right.

It's a really fascinating chapter of the dark history of the U.S. when it pertains to getting in and out of wars. Yeah, man, that is fucking crazy. I feel like I just watched a history show special. Right? I know. And we never got to make that episode. And we did a lot of work on it, too.

And it was really cool. And the reason was dumb. Remember, they were like, this one's too good. So let's not do it for the extended pilot. Let's do another shipwreck. And then we'll do this, like, as a two-hour special. And then it never made it to series. It just, they just aired the two episodes on like a Saturday morning.

Oh, God. They buried us. It was brutal. Yeah. The joy of being a TV producer. Oh, yeah. But at least we make millions of dollars. That's right. Yeah, we're so rich out of it.

Really? Let me in. Not really. All right, so here, so for us, actually, let me throw this at you. You're there, right? Yeah. Let's say me and Reteper. We've been hired to entertain the troops doing some live podcasts. We're on the USS Indianapolis. It gets torpedoed. We go down.

The water is a balmy 75. We feel good. We've got our life jackets on. You wouldn't need it. Tep and I would need it. I would panic immediately and drown. And we're there. Night has set in and from the screams around us, it's pretty clear that sharks are there and they're frenzying.

What do you do to try and keep yourself alive in that case? It's dark, you don't have a mask and snorkel? Yeah. You have to stay as calm and as still as you can because what's invoking the attacks is people panicking and splashing and screaming and everything else. And you know when there's 200, 300 bodies, or let's say there's only 100 bodies at this point in time, the sharks aren't killing to eat at that point. There's plenty of food for them.

They're killing out of that thing that I've talked about before a few times, that's sort of henhouse syndrome where they're all, they're overwhelmed by the abundance of prey and instinct is kicking in much more so than hunger. So if you just float there and just stay perfectly still like a basically like a dead body, they're not going to leave you alone. You're not bleeding, you're not panicking, you're not thrashing in the water, you're not invoking any kind of instinctual response for them to prey on you. You're just floating there like another body or another inanimate object. In that situation, they're not going to bug you at all.

Would you maybe try to get away? Because I'm sure the instinct there is like, I'm scared, I'm terrified, let's all huddle up, let's get close to each other. Would you try and get away from the group? Oh, absolutely. Well, that's a tough call because a way, there's safety in numbers, right? But it's like when, like when I was a lifeguard, they're always like, you know, save yourself first, never get with the group because they'll drown you, right? So if you're in a group and they start, somebody in your group starts thrashing or panicking, everybody's fucked because they're pushing people and they're thrashing. So I don't think I'd want to be part of the huddle, even though there is safety in numbers. I think you're better to gently drift away from everything and look for anything that you can clobhing.

I'm out on, get a boar, you know, a life raft, a door, anything. But I think the idea of getting into a huddle and a group is great if you're in the middle and everybody can, like, sit like a mat dead still, but you can't, I personally couldn't trust human beings to stay calm in that situation. You know what I mean? You know somebody's going to freak out. Yeah, exactly. And it just takes one person freaking out and thrashing and that person gets bitten and then the person next them gets bumped and they freak out and thrash. If you could calm your nerve and literally, even when a sharks rubbing against your leg or whatever, just stay dead still and calm. I think you'd be absolutely fine in that situation.

I wonder how the captain got out. We didn't go down with the ship, obviously. Right. Yeah. That's a, that's a strange thing, too. I was reading about that just the other day, the captain going down with the ship and how, you know, like, how it was historically, it always was real. It was like this thing about being the fucking captain of the men.

And it's still, to this day, it's still, like, required, basically. You can get in trouble if you're not the last one off the ship. Do you remember that cruise ship that ran a ground in Italy? Yeah. And they're like, literally, the captain was the first one off the ship. And he, I think he would spend time in jail because he was basically. Well, I think he might be thinking. So these happened at the same time.

It was the ferry boat that was ferrying a bunch of students in South Korea. It happened right at the same time that that Italian cruise ship ran a brand. Okay, I might be mixing him up. And most of the students went down with the ship and hundreds and hundreds died. And the captain was like the first, like literally first lifeboat. Yeah, he was like, I'm out. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I think it's something that you like sort of, it's like an honorable thing that you sign that if you're the captain, you know, those lives are your responsibility. So you're the last one off the boat. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. You have to like, you have to be the last one off. I like that.

I like that. I did a show called The Atlas of Cursed Places. There was actually a good show. We did like six episodes on National Geographic last year. And one of the things we did was this episode in Romania. And we took this ferry. There was a terrible ferry accident just crossing from Romania to Bulgaria across the river. I remember you telling me this.

And we met with this guy, Tejador, who had survived this accident where I think the 245 people basically went down. They basically got Tebow. by a barge, right? And the barge just slowly turned the ship like this. And then it kind of went over. And he said he saw it coming. He said he saw the T-bone coming and he was just watching it. And he said he basically just put his hands on the rail and just kept climbing as the ship was rotating 90 degrees onto its side.

And he said, well, it was there on its side. He just walked along the top and jumped onto the barge. And he's like, my shoes never got wet. And then the host, Sam, goes, were you scared? And he was like, no. He just saw it happening and knew what to do. Right. And it was just such a, I was like, what the fuck?

And then very calmly, Sam's like, was anyone you knew on board? And he's like, yeah, my two sisters, they died. Oh, my God. I was like, fuck. But yeah, so the Indianapolis, to put a button on the story, 300 guys went down with the ship 845 made it into the water And of that less than 350

Lived to tell the story So at some point 450 guys died How many were sharks? We don't know but a lot Yeah To live through that too would be fucking nuts man Geez

Yeah Rather rather live through it than not though Well yeah I mean you know what I don't want to live through Is have you guys seen these fucking robots that they're creating these robot dogs that they've now put guns on top of?

Have you seen this? Are these the yellow? Terrified. Like the, what's that company that's making them? I think I've seen. Yeah, yeah. Boston Robotics. Yes, Boston Robotics. Yeah. Yeah, so they've been fucking making

these dogs that are robots for a while now. You see them, they're dancing. Like, it's all cute. It's funny. The other week, come out. fucking with a video of one of these things with a gun on it, dude. I'm just like, what? So now all of a sudden it's like cute, kitsy, funny TikTok material. And now I'm just like, okay, so these are going to be policing us?

Like, what else are I going to use these for? It's coming. Dude, you can't do anything with these things. You can kick them over. They get right back up. They're like an advanced version of those fucking clowns you punch that just keep coming back up. The roly clowns? Yeah.

It's coming, man. It's all of that shit is coming. It's like fucking George Orwell is coming to life, you know? We're all going to be policed by robots and cameras everywhere. And the thing is, like, I don't want to sit here and be like, oh, you know, the future and sci-fi. You have to. There's 8 billion people on this planet. There's going to be 10 billion people on this planet inside of five years.

You have to do those things to manage that many people. Like, if there was 3 million people on the planet, sure. Everybody can run free and gives a shit. You know what I mean? I'd have like 2 acres to myself. great. You'd have a lot more than two acres if there are three million. You could have half of that lady yourself if there are two million people on the planet.

But like when there's when there's 10 billion people on the planet, you have to do all those things to police everybody. I mean, it's just like how else do you keep everything in line? Think about how terrifying it's going to be though the first time there's like a little knock at the door and it's like a police dog robot and it's like let me see your

papers. Dude, this is not happening. It is 100% happening. It is happening in, I'm going to say in our grandkids lifetime. Like before we die, we will see police robots. Okay. I mean, that's fine. As long as it's near the end

of my life, I'll be okay with it. Because everybody will have acclimated by then, except for us old fucks. Yeah. Talk about back when we used to walk places and police were humans. Walk places. Human beings? Remember when we had iPhones? Now it's fucking in chips

in their heads. Dude. Simp Anzi, Simp underscore Anzi is an Instagram, bro, sent us a message. I'm sorry to do this for TEP. You have to pull up this video. Okay, let's see. I'm going to wait for the video, but it is...

Before we dig into that, and I might be opening up something I don't want to know about here. Simp is a thing. S-I-M-P, that's a thing. Do you guys know what it is? I don't know what it is. Like a simpleton. Yeah, like a simpleton. Oh, I thought it was like some sort of perverted thing.

No, it's like a thing people say like, oh, he's a simp. And it's just like a simpleton, like they're done. Oh, that's not that bad. Okay, well, I'm a simp for not getting figuring that out. So, yeah, that is not a good looking shark. All right. Well, tell us what we're seeing here for us. Yeah, so that's a sand tiger shark, clearly in an aquarium.

And it has a very deformed spine. You know, and this is not super uncommon in the fish world, actually. You get fish and sharks that look like this. I had a guppy that looked like that for a couple years. The thing is, in nature, that guy wouldn't have made it more than a few weeks, right? He would have just, you just would have been killed. But it was probably bred in the aquarium or captured when it was very little, and it gets fed plenty, and it lives in a fish tank. So its life's incredibly easy.

But, yeah, that is a sand tiger shark with a very deformed spine. Wow. Looks crazy. You know, I've got scoliosis, but I don't look like. like that? Well, you also don't have bones made of cartilage. So sharks are purely cartilaginous, right? How do you know? That's true. I don't. But sharks are sharks and rays, chimeras, are cartelaginous. So they don't have bones in their body the way we do. They have all cartilage. Like, imagine if your earlobe made up your entire body. Be sweet. I'd be able to fit under a door crack. No, but it, so it is actually, it's, it's actually, it's, it's, It's easier for cartilaginous creatures like that to end up sort of deformed like that because

there's no hard bone and rigid stuff that sort of has to lock into place, if that makes sense. So when you have cartilaginous fishes like sharks and rays, you get a lot of deformities. And I actually posted something on my Instagram, I don't know, maybe a year ago now, of a deformed bat ray that had two sets of wings. And it's sort of the same thing. It was just an animal that was born, you know, maybe in the womb it was held, it was positioned weird or in its egg casing or who knows. But yeah, they just sort of come out squished up like that. Fucking weird.

Yeah. Do you ever guys ever see that guy? There was a guy who was born with a defect where he was bent over and literally, I can't remember. It might have been backwards. and his whole, his head was down by his hips, and he had to fucking live his life that way. And like middle-aged, he finally got surgery and got it corrected. But dude, you're going like 30 years like that, man.

Could you imagine how, like, mentally taxing that would be? My wife watches those kind of shows like the... On TLC. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. The like, you know, fucking pimple face show and whatever. Yeah, my... She doesn't watch that one. she watches those kind of shows, like the plastic surgery shows.

And it's always someone who's just suffered or lived with it for like 25 years. And they drive there in a car, right? The surgery costs $8,000, but they drove there in a $35,000 car. And it's like, wait a minute. Like, I'm sympathetic to the fact that, like, what you have sucks. Like, I get that. And I'm not arguing that for a second. But why did you wait this long to fix it?

That I never, like, and that's what I'm saying. It's not that you couldn't afford it because you drove here in a car. You live in a house. You know, the surgery costs $8,000, $12,000, whatever. Like, why did you wait till you were middle age to do this? Like, why not alleviate and make half of your life better by fixing this thing? I've never understood that when I watched these shows. Well, I mean, because they knew they were going to get on TV eventually, of course.

Worth it. Yeah, if you have a deformity, like, there is a TL, there is a producer who will pitch a show with you to TLC and probably sell it. No question. It doesn't even need to be a deformity. You can have a mental handy. It doesn't matter what it is. You have, you have, you have, you have, you have, bad feet. Bad feet.

There's a show called my feet are killing me. Oh my God. And it's just like people with toenails. It's unwatchable. I haven't actually seen it. But I imagine it's just people with bad toenails. Well, I mean, think about the, the stuff that we've done expeditions to very hard to get to places, nearly die, trying to get there. Exponentially more people watch a doctor scrub bunions off of people with bad feet.

No question. Because those shows get good ratings. I know. I think about this all the time. And I'm like, what the fuck did I? Am I, like, what is going on in the world? Like, you just summed it up perfectly. Why are millions of people tuning in to watch a bunion get scrubbed off a foot or a pimple get popped?

I mean, pimple popper is huge. That's a huge thing. It's a huge show. Meanwhile, we're discovering extinct animals. Like, I've got dysentery. Like, you know, we're doing all this shit that's like super important and helpful and good for the world. Nobody watches it. Like six people.

in live. Nobody cares. Yeah. It's wild. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is that makes you want to watch the gross stuff for, you know, my 600 pound life. You know, you're just kind of watching people who are struggling with their health because they weigh 600 pounds. Like what I understand if you want to watch like the Kardashians or the Real Housewives, because it's just like, I need a mind change. I'm going to not think about anything serious. I also think, to interject for one second, people love to watch people that are more successful than them struggle.

Like, I think that's why the Kardashians is so big because it's like, oh, they have billions of dollars, but they have real problems too. They're fighting with each other. They're fighting with their spouses. People want to see people have problems. Like, I kind of get that one, but the other, the gross shit I don't get. I think it's like, you know, kind of that train wreck mentality when you're, when, because I've watched my 600 pound life or whatever before. and, you know, it's like, I could be there. I'm curious as to how they got there so I can avoid.

Not if you keep eating beans, dude. You keep eating those beans and you're not getting, you're going to have like my 135 pound life. Yeah, I know. Dude, my healthy BMI range, my weight would be, I forget exactly. It's absurd, though. It's like one, it's like 135 to 1, like, 65. It's ridiculous.

I'm just like if I was this weight, I would literally look like I didn't eat like I was Mel Nurt. BMI is the biggest fraud. It's ridiculous. So I have a brother who's super into running marathons, my brother Dominic, right? He were the same height. I weigh 185. Like when I had the dad bod when I did the spin kick, I was probably like 191.

But like a good weight for me with, you know, I like to lift weights, you know, and impeccable. 180 to 185. My brother Dominic weighs like 150. I genuinely am not 100% sure that he could like

defend himself from like a toddler attack. You know, he's very skinny because he's a marathon runner, right? According to BMI, I'm fucking obese. We have the same body fat percentage.

I just have 35 pounds of muscle that he doesn't have. And I'm considered an unhealthy weight, whereas he's like right in the ideal range. I'm like, I just, this is a silly thing. It's crazy. It's crazy. So I was, I was reading again back to my, uh, how not to die book. They say a more accurate way is to make sure to make sure you're healthy. And this is, you know, it's not to not be fat. It's to make sure you don't die from

fucking, from the diseases that come along with being an unhealthy piece of shit. Right. Basically, instead of BMI, uh, your, your height should be half the size. or your waist should be under half the size of your height in inches. And you're like at a good, you're good. Because it's the waist. It's that fat there that fucks you up. But dude, I'm obese. But that's different for different body types as well.

Like some people have a fat middle and no other fat on them. Some people have fat thighs and a fat butt and no other fat on them. So that's. No, but it's, but in. Oh, you're saying because the belly fat is like bad fats in particular. Yeah, yeah, I got you. That makes sense. and gives you diseases and shit.

There's a thing. Oh, sorry, go ahead, Peter. Well, I was going to say the fucking, the, I'm able to get my COVID booster because I am clinically obese. I'm like, I don't have to lie. Like, I'm obese. If you can, just pull up a picture of a guy named D.K. Metcalf without his shirt on. D.K. Metcalf shirtless. So he's a wide receiver plays for the Seahawks.

He's a physical freak of nature. Okay. And when the draft, he's in his third year now, when the draft was coming around, this picture went around of him without his shirt on, he's just a beast of a human. Is he the guy that looked like the fucking Ninja Turtle or his abs were sticking out from underneath his bat?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember him. Yeah. He's the fastest player in the NFL. He is just a monster, right? Yeah. This guy has no body fat. You can see him there.

He technically is obese. Right. That's an obese man. He's unhealthy. He's wildly obese. And he needs to get his COVID booster. There's a machine called an in-body. Have you guys seen this?

They have one at my gym because my gym's like a fancy athletic performance type gym. And it does, those things are great because it breaks down like your muscle mass, you know, your muscle density, your water intake, your fat, your body fat, you know, it does like everything. And then it gives you a real readout. And it tells you like, oh, you're not obese because you weigh X for X height. you just have, you know, you're like for me, I can't remember what my muscle mass was the last time I did it, but it's like, I'm like 78% muscle. Do you know what I mean? So it's like, it's like that's why you

weigh that much where, you know, and meanwhile my body fat's at like 14% or 15% whatever it is, versus someone who's my same height and weight could have 23% muscle mass and just be a fat blob, you know, but weigh exactly the same as what I do at my height. And that's, that's the problem is when you just take those basic numbers, you just kind of tell anything. It doesn't mean anything. It's like the food pyramid scam, dude. I was just going to say that. Just going to say it. It's crazy that that was accepted for so long. So we should be eating eight servings of white bread and pasta every day. Eight to 11. Is the food pyramid not a thing anymore? I remember the food pyramid. I thought that was still, not that I've looked at it. They've changed it drastically, right?

So the one that we learned was the bottom of the food pyramid was basically white bread and pasta. It said you needed eight to 11 fist-sized servings of carbohydrates per day. That's no longer the food pyramid. Go figure. I don't think. Although every food pyramid I'm seeing here is still showing that you need the most carbs on the bottom. Which is absolutely absurd. Okay, this is, here's the original USDA guide.

Bread, cereal, rice, and pasta. You want six to 11 servings of a day. Christ. Two to four servings of fruit, three to five servings of vegetable, two to three servings of milk, yogurt, and cheese, two to three servings of meat, poultry, fish, eggs, beans and nuts, and then sparing use of fats and oils. If I eat that much, I would pop. Yeah, you would be absolutely clinically obese.

It's crazy. With the, I mean, you know, it's all, it just goes to show you how much of an agenda there is and just everything. That's because they were trying to fucking sell certain things and deals were cut with certain industries of food that were being subsidized by the government for this reason or that reason. Like, that's legit. That's not a fucking conspiracy theory, dude. There's lobbying going on that says, okay, let's make this front company. I'm watching this documentary about, have you guys seen dopesick? It's on Hulu.

Dude, it's so good Michael Keaton. Anyways, it's all about the fucking oxycontin bullshit. It's the same shit, dude. They form, like, seemingly autonomous, like, organizations that are pushing, like, in that case, pain management and, like, like, doing this whole thing. It's the same thing that they did with the food pyramid. It's, like, the USDA or whatever has its stamp of approval on this. What? because like they're not fucking in anybody's pocket?

Like what are you talking about? Of course they are. Because it's ridiculous. Every single organization in person is in the pocket of somebody else's. They have to be. It's the only way the world works. Yeah, man. You can not have an agenda.

You have to. That doesn't mean there aren't honest people or honest companies, but every single organization and person on earth has an agenda. Nobody is truly, you know, apolitical, a-any-any. Like everybody's got an opinion or an agenda. Well, I just want to, Forrest was really excited before this podcast. Do we have a jingle for the segment that he wants to do that we haven't done in a long time? Oh, there we go.

At first glance, it might be mistaken for a lemur. Activate creature report. What cousin fucking tarnation? I do think there's a starch in these words. With its sharp claws. This is a long one. It's long. Bizarar Animal of the Week.

Yeah. Wow, that was, I don't think I've ever heard that jingle before. Neither. It's a good one. That's rad. Okay, Bizarre Animal of the Week. It was of the week until like, I don't know, April of last year. But we're bringing it back.

It's time to do it again. Are you guys ready for some clues? I'm ready. Oh, I'm ready, baby. Excellent. Okay. So our Bizarre Animal of the Week, is found in the flood plains in tropical climates.

Okay? A lot of creatures in the flood plains of tropical climates. But these animals live in underground nests, generally less than a hundred altogether. Yeah, okay. I'm thinking some sort of rodent. They, uh, yeah, rodent. I'm in the rodent family right now.

Peter, you got anything yet? Narrowing it down. Yeah. I mean, a hundred is a lot. I mean, it would be rodents. It's either a rodent or an insect. Okay, very good. These creatures, these bizarre animals that live in floodplains

and live in small groups of less than 100 underground, use sticks and twigs to seal off the nest at night and reopen it in the morning when they go out to hunt. Some sort of mole. Nah. This is an insect because you said twigs. And moles aren't using twigs. Why would you say twigs?

I don't know. They're very small. These animals Forage for their food And are also known Look at how angry Pat is I don't know why They're also known

You said it You son of a bitch I didn't I'm not even in the dock Okay They are known to jump And catch prey Out of the air

Hmm That has me off rodent Jump and catch prey That has me on rodent So far our bizarre animal Of the week Lives in floodplains And tropical climates

lives underground in groups of 100 or less. They use sticks and twigs to seal off their opening to their burrow during the day and night, and they jump into the air to catch their prey. They can jump up to four times their height and take down prey that is twice their size. Okay. I'm back then sec. I'm on arachnid now because I'm thinking, it's right, we know the trapdoor spider. We'll build little doors.

So I'm picking arachnid. Very good. Very good. Anything else? All right, so, yeah, oh, plenty more, baby birds. These animals have a society. Okay. Now, we do know that our, what's your favorite animal, Peter?

Naked Mollrat? They also have a society. Yes. And these creatures have a society with queens, a female working class, and the males are sex slaves. Sure. So now we're definitely on insect. I was definitely thinking lizard until you said that. Okay.

So it's an insect that doesn't have the power of flight. So we're going to rule out any sort of B, anything like that. They jump. Very good, very good. Okay, okay. The queen spends most of their lives reproducing. But when the last queen dies, a month-long war will break out where all female workers will fight until the new group of winners emerge and become the new queens. So there's a group of queens.

die out till the very last one. And then as soon as that one dies, they split into different groups and they go to war for up to a month until they're able to name a new group of queens. This is, go ahead. Is it 18th century England? Yep. That is our bizarre animal.

This is a weird insect if it's an insect because they're groups only a hundred. So once the queens dies, if we're talking maybe there's 50 females left, it shouldn't take them a month to battle. wouldn't think so, but it does.

Okay. So once the new queens become queens, they begin a physical metamorphose. Their venom glands recede. Their ovaries grow to five times the size they were before, and their

rain chemistry changes, and their lifespan goes from six months to over three years. What? That is fucking crazy. So their life, just because they've essentially been elected, they can go through this change

that helps them live six times longer? Yeah, how does that biologically happen? It's just like human beings. As soon as you're like a celebrity or you have a lot of money, you live longer and your life's better. Exactly. But it takes care of you.

Yep. Wow. There's more. Oh, there's more. Keep going. So, in addition to everything I just explained about the Queen's metamorphose, they can

choose, choose to shrink their own brains by up to 20%. And why would they do that? Yeah. To reserve calories to extend their lives. Yep. Okay. Wow.

And, wait, hold on. Oh, and in some instances, a group of queens can be voted out by others, thus instigating another war. So is there, is there, there's a group of queens? There's a group of queens, that's right. Interesting. Hmm. Dude, okay, keep going.

Okay, all right, so let me recap. I've got one more, then we'll take our final guesses. So this week's bizarre animal of the week is found in floodplains of tropical climates. They live in underground colonies of less than a hundred, and they use sticks and twigs to seal off their nest at night and reopen it in the morning when they go out to hunt. They forage for their food, but they'll also jump into their air to catch prey that it can be twice their size and up to four, and they can. could jump up to four times their height. These animals have a society of queens, a female working class, and the males are nothing but sex slaves. The queens will spend all of their lives reproducing once they change. When the last queen dies, a month-long war will break out where all

female workers split off into groups and battle until a group of winners emerges and becomes the new queens. Once this singular group is elected as queen, all of the queens, all of the workers, all of the worker females that are now queens go under physical change. Their venom glands recede. Their ovaries grow to five times the size they were before. Their brain chemistry changes and can shrink up to 20 percent, and their lifespan goes from six months to over three years. This is fascinating. Isn't this wild? It really is. The last one here, not that I think this is going to help you guys guess it, but it's still cool. Once isolated from the group, all the changes will naturally, oh, sorry, I forget. I I forgot to mention, in some instance, a queen can be voted out by the other members of the queen party.

And once isolated from the group, all the changes will naturally reverse, and they will morph back into a sterile, intelligent, venomous female worker. So they can go through this huge, huge physical change, and then they can get booted for being a bitch and go straight back to where they were before. And all these physical changes can happen. This is the craziest thing I've ever heard of in my entire life. See, I was thinking, I was along the lines of could it be some sort of flea, but we know a flea can jump much more than four times their height. True. So I'm a little lost here.

Go ahead, Retep. Well, I mean, there's only one insect that I can think of that has queens, but the jumping thing threw me off. So I'm going, I was going to say an ant, but I'm going with like some type of cricket or grasshopper. Okay. Ah, that's a good guess. some sort of cricket or grasshopper.

Praying mantis don't live in big groups. Oh, they can fly. They live on the floodplains. I'm going to say that it's called... You know what? I'm going to go with this. I'm going to go with the South American floodplain beetle. Very good.

Very good. That's not it. It is indeed the Indian jumping ant. So these creatures live in the floodplains of India. It is a type of ant, and they have just a wild and bizarre life cycle. What's it called again? Indian jumping ant.

Indian jumping ant. It looks like nothing. Looks like the same kind of ant that you guarantee you squished earlier today because it was crawling around your kitchen. I mean, it looks like nothing, but it has a fascinating life history. You know what's interesting about this? The fact that some human

or group of humans just observe these things long enough to witness all of this and log it. It's crazy. Somebody got their doctorate by observing this behavior. No question. That's a good one. Let us know, Brosner's, if you want us to do this segment more regularly.

I'm also curious if anybody got it. Like, there are some big nerds that follow along on the show, and I love them for it. Was anybody at like, oh, Queen Metamorphos? Yeah, yeah. No, obviously it's Harpithonis Salator, the Indian Jumping at. Indian Jumping at. Yeah. Morons.

Look at Ritep. What an idiot. Well, coming up in a couple days, we've got Halloween. We've already done. We've talked about candy. We like to do topical stuff, you know, we've done. But I've got a top three in DFL that's topical that we've never done. Number one.

Number two. Number three. Dead fucking lost. I don't think I've ever heard that jingle before you. Dead fucking last. Thank you, Winn K, for the jingles we love you. So this is where we go through our top three favorites of a category. And the DFL, the dead fucking last, absolute worst in the category.

Yes. This week, going along the theme with All Hollows Eve, going to go out trick-or-treating. It's not all just costumes and candy, folks. There's a lot of scary movies that are watched this week. Oh, yeah. So this is top three in DFL scariest movies that we've ever seen. Love it. Who's going first, Patrick?

I'll go first since I thought of it. Give you guys some time to think. Top three. Number three, this is a new one, came out a few years ago. It's a movie called Hereditary. Did you guys ever see that? Nope, never seen it. No. That good. Came out in theaters. It's this first time director named Ari Aster. Super creepy. The whole soundtrack is like people plucking strings of like violas and cellos and stuff. And it's just unsettling. I don't want to spoil anything. But there's, I watched it in a crowded. movie theater and there's a moment that happens about an hour or maybe 45 minutes into the movie that is so shocking that I just looked around and people were just like, people didn't know what to do with their bodies.

Everyone was just like, what the fuck? It was so goddamn tense. It's really good. Number two, and this is tough. Number two, I'm going to go with a movie called 30 Days of Night. Do you guys? I've seen this one. Yeah, I've seen this one.

That one was very scary. Legit scary. Totally holds up. It's set in Barrow, Alaska. People are leaving because it's about to be full winter where it's dark for 30 days. Yep. And a group of vampires comes into the town to feast because it's going to be dark. And they know that these people can't get help.

It's legitimately very, very scary. And the number one, it has the best jump scare. You know, a jump scare is the one where it makes you scream and you recoil and you physically jump where something just surprises you, right? There's like the Longburn scare and then the jump scare. Best jump scare I've ever seen in a movie. It's a movie called The Descent. I've seen The Descent.

That's a cave. It's a caving movie, right? Yeah, exactly. Don't remember the jump scare. I wish you hadn't reminded me of that movie. Oh, man, you should watch it this week. It's so good. It's, yeah, a group of women go into a cave.

They're not alone. It's really good. And then DFL, not the cartoon, not the Disney Frozen, but there's a movie called Frozen that came out in 2010. Terrible. Here's the thing. It's almost worth the watch, but it got ruined. You can tell.

It was like an indie film, obviously they had some funding, but the setup is so good and then they ruined it. Here's how they ruined it. You're going to hate this for us. So the setup is the ski mountains closing down for Monday and Tuesday. on Sunday, this group of friends finagels their way onto getting the last chairlift up, right? There's like a, they finagle their way in,

even though they didn't have a lift ticket, and the guy just kind of forgets that he got sweet-talked by the girls into getting on. The chairlift shuts down, and they're stuck on a chairlift. And it's like 50 feet high. It's too high to jump, and no one's coming for three days. That's awful. That's terrible.

Terrifying, right? Yeah. So there's this great. And so now they're trying to decide, do they jump down? Do they freeze to death? What's the best death? What do we do? It could have been this amazing psychological thriller.

But then they bring an evil pack of wolves into the movie. And this pack of wolves just sits under the chairlift, growling and snarling and waiting for them to jump down. And they become the bad guy? Right. And you're like the point of that. Why is this a dumb idea for us? Because they wouldn't do

At no point would a pack of wool just sit there looking up for three days They'd be like well this is a waste of time I'm gonna get on with life yeah Oh my god Not to mention they don't really eat humans Right of course yeah No it's nonsense So that's why that's my DFL because what I believe

Knowing what I know about entertainment I believe that it was a great script That was turned in And they said you need something else Yeah You gotta add some wolves Yeah And they reluctantly did

It just butchered it. What was that movie? And then I can go next for Peter Can, but you just reminded me of this. You were obsessed with it when we went to Vietnam, Patrick, and you passed it around to Mitch and myself. It was a World War II movie, but then they kind of mutated. Oh, yeah. That was really good. It was good.

What the hell was it called? I can find out in a second. It had like a grandiose title. It was like... Overlord. Overlord, that's it. Oh, I remember you talking about it. about this one.

It was good. I liked it a lot, but I did not see that coming because the movie starts and you're like, okay, a World War II movie. And then you're like, oh, whoa, that took a hard turn.

Yeah. The Nazis are like doing experiments inside this base, trying to create the ultimate soldier and they've created these mutants. And it's pretty good. I watched it twice on the Vietnam flight. Yeah, I liked it. I liked it as well. You watched it two times?

Yeah, man. The same movie? Just on repeat? Well, because Forrest didn't give me any of his snoozeberries to take on that flight, so I was up the whole time. All right, what's your list? What's your list, Peter? Okay. I mean, I'm surprised you didn't come in with any of the classics because, see, when I was younger, I really, really enjoyed scary movies.

Now, way too anxious. Don't like it. I'm scared. I'll be on my phone trying to avoid watching truly scary movies. but since these older movies, they're like my favorite, and they're so ridiculous now that they're not scary anymore.

What do you got? If you pick any of mine, I'm going to be so annoyed because all my favorite scary movies are early 2000 movies. Well, I think it's even before that. He's going back, yeah. My first one is just plain and simple Halloween.

It's a great movie. It's a classic. And it's because I know, what's going to happen, it's not scary. But if I watched it for the first time, I would be terrified during it. Fair enough. And then my next one

is The Lost Boys, man. It's so fucking ridiculous and good. That freaked me out when I was a kid. I watched it when I was too young to watch it, for sure. Yeah. I mean, it's just about a bunch of vampires. But it's like, it's got a good story.

comedy horror movie. They give it a comedy when you Google it. Yeah, see what I said. I don't like to be scared. So the Lost Boys. Fine? And then finally, just a classic man. And any of them, the nightmare on Elm Streets, they're so ridiculous that they can't be taken seriously. Nice. When you're a little kid, though, and you find out, when you get the plot of that in your head, that you falling asleep. Yeah. No sleeping. Yeah, that fucked me up. Very scary premise as a child for sure, but not as a,

and, and, um, dude, my, my fucking DFL, because it's the most absurdly ridiculous fucking premise out of any movie horror otherwise, and they're actually making a TV show out of it, and I don't know how, uh, child's play. A fucking doll. Oh, yeah. A doll that comes to life and kills people. Chuckie, dude. Chuckie was the shit.

It's a tiny fucking doll. Like, I mean, he's not even that clever. I don't know how he's killing so many people. If I saw, it's absurd. You see they're bringing Dexter back as well? I think it's HBO is doing a new Dexter show. I did. Yeah.

That's different. I like Dexter. Yeah, I did too. Yeah, Dexter is solid. All right. My top three, yeah, you went a generation below mine, Peter, which I'm happy about. So mine are, I would also consider them classics, but they're like the tackiest. of scary movie classics and I'll love them.

So, number three, the movie Scream. You guys are really? Scream? Yeah, it's great. It's scary but like not that scary, but like fun and ridiculous. Love scream. New one coming

out. New one. Oh, really? A lot of the same cast. Courtney Cox, David Arcade. Did not know that. Everything we talk about, they're just regurgitating it. They're just doing it again. Even the main girl. Main girl's in it too, right? Yeah, Neff Campbell. Quick aside, it's based on a true story, believe it or not.

No. Get out of there. That's terrifying. I'm not going to get into it, but just on your own time, Google the Gainesville Ripper. It's based on a serial killer who was basically torturing and killing students in Gainesville, Florida, you know, University of Florida students. In the Halloween, in the white mask face thing? Not in the same mask, but the hysteria that it caused, and a lot of the plot points are taken from that.

By the way, I just. googled it and the guy's name is Danny Rolling and he looks like a real fucking pudwacker. Yeah. I don't know what a puddwacker is but I like that. All right. It's number two. Number two, final destination.

Okay. Because it I don't even know if it qualifies a scary movie but you're just the, it's like going to NASCAR. You're just on the edge of your seat waiting for somebody to get smush the whole time and you're like, come on, come on, oh, not this time, not this time. True. And it's just

such a simple premise, like easy plot, loved it, like, totally wanted to see them all live, but also wanted to see them all die. Right. Final Destination was great. You know it's a good movie when they make five sequels, by the way. Right, exactly. And coming in at number one, hands down my favorite, favorite scary movie, probably the first pair of boobs I ever saw on TV, and that might be why.

I know what you did last summer. Okay. Ooh. You guys remember that one? Of course. remember boobs in it. Pretty sure there's boobs in the beginning. Like in the opening, I'd have to watch it again.

I don't know. He was too busy beating off. That's right. Yeah, I missed the rest of the movie, actually. But, uh, and then, yeah, love those three movies. Dead fucking last. I don't know why these types of movies, but this in particular has ever been made. I don't know who watches it.

I don't know what's wrong with these kind of people. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre series. It's like, it's not scary. It's just blood. It's like boring. It just does nothing for me. I just like don't want to watch it. If I see that on it, I'm just like this.

No, not this. That's how I feel about the Saw movies, man. I'm just like, oh yeah. Roodle. Same thing. Tex chains off saw hills have eyes. They're just like, ugh, God, they're so lame.

Hostile, yeah. It's that whole genre of gore. House of 1,000 corpses. It's so dull. The gore porn is I don't enjoy it because it's like it makes you squeamish, but also it's not, there's not the fun part. It's just people getting stabbed in the eyeballs. Right.

Totally. Totally. Nope. It doesn't do anything for me. So yeah. Top three DFL. Like to know, would love to hear what some Brozner's favorites are, because I'm not going to lie. I haven't seen what I would consider a good, scary movie in a long time.

A lot of people were ranting about a quiet place. I never saw it. I probably should. Also, does not qualify as a scary movie. No. It's like a psychological. It's more of like an action movie, I would say, a little bit. Yeah, that's the thing.

I need some wrecks. Well, watch Hereditary. It's good fun. And let us know. I love scary movies, so if any of the Brosters have them, put them in the YouTube or whatever. Because I like to watch these films. Yeah. Retev, not so much.

A little more skittish. Skittish. It's like a mouse. Guys, what time is it? Yeah, did you have a BR? I do the during gold. See what happens? I think I know what time it is.

Three games today. It's fun. Right in the row. What? Don, done. Battle Royale. I'm so glad we have those jingles now. They're a lot of fun.

They're just better. They are. Yeah. All right, so look, we talked about Halloween. Everybody knows my stance on candy corn about how they are the harbinger of the holidays. Halloween comes, and then the next thing you know, know, you're putting out your harvest display. We're getting into the rest of the holidays. Thanksgiving is right around the corner. So here's the battle royale.

Harvest display. You've got to present a meal to a panel of the brosners. Each of us are going to present a Thanksgiving meal. Oh, there you go. Okay. So you need your main protein, two sides, and a dessert. So we're going four this time, not three. A main protein, two sides, and a dessert. But here's the catch. It has to be every ingredient, all the main ingredients, have to be things that you yourself, as you, not as a superhero version of you, could forage and capture or hunt.

So if anyone does an ingredient where we don't believe that they could procure that ingredient, they're immediately disqualified. So Peter, if you say you're going to make shark fin soup, it's like, we know you don't know how to do that. Right. Okay. So it has to be stuff you could get. It's protein, two sides, and a dessert, correct?

Yes. Yes. Got it. Okay. All right. Is it a snake draft? I missed that part. Yeah, snake draft.

One at a time. One at a time. Let's let Forrest go first since he has the most hunting and foraging, not hunting, not hunting, but fishing and foraging experience. Sure. Sure. All right. I will, I'll take this one early, and I'll take this one early, and I'll take it right off of the table. It's Thanksgiving. We all know it. We all love it. People that say they

don't love it are liars. It's just a turkey. Now, I'm not saying I'm a great hunter. I am perfectly capable of killing a neighborhood turkey, though. No question. I'm not talking about a wild turkey with the collar and then the face paint. I'm talking about the kind that's raiding my in-laws trash cans every Sunday. No problem. I could take one of those out with a golf club. I'm positive that I could catch a turkey, roast turkey for my main. Okay. So while you're... First dumpster turkey.

While you're guzzling water to get forest bone-dry white turkey meat down your gullet, delicious. I will present to you an animal that I have simply whacked on the head because they like to land in my swimming pool. I have a mating pair of ducks that lands in my pool, shits in it frequently. They're not that scared of me. I know I could catch one just with my pool fucking strainer. So I'm going to serve a lovely glazed duck as my protein. I like that you're catching it from your swimming pool and that you have ducks that land in your swimming pool.

That's pretty cool. I'm not going too far from the house here. Yeah, no, smart. All right. Well, that leaves me up for two, right? So I will, I mean, gosh, there's so many things I could go with here. but I got to go for the easiest and what I could

actually feasibly get. I know there's a rooster that hangs around this gas station somewhere out here and we're sitting there. Street rooster. So he's got dumpster, turkey, pool duck, and street rooster at the main courses. He's pretty cocky and he's got

some impeccable pecks on him. So I'm going to grab him. Love some lovely chicken. That sounds like. Sounds good. A little chicken. And then are we doing the sides as a pair as one pick? No, no, no.

We're going to do four picks. Yeah. Okay. I shouldn't have even said that. Just move past it. All right. So my one side is going to, is definitely going to be fucking yams, baby. I can pick yams.

I could for yams. Where are you going to go get those? I'm going to steal them from some farm around here. Are they grown in California? Yeah, everything's growing in California. That's true. That's true. In fact, I go to yammap.com.

Yammap.com. So he's going to, I mean, look, he's going to go onto a yam farm and dig up some yams. I believe he can do it, and I believe he will do it. Yeah, right here, Jan's yam farm. He's giddling it right now. All right, I believe it. I believe it. Yeah.

Okay. Very good. That's annoying because I was going to pick jungle. which are yams because they're my specialty. Right. You're known for your jungle potato. I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you.

I'm going to stick with the low-hanging fruit, literally, because I have a persimmon tree in my backyard. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to pick some lovely persimmons. I also have an ice cream maker that I got as a Christmas gift about six years ago. It's still in the box. I'm going to make a just refreshing, light, persimms. Simmon ice cream as my dessert And I still haven't left my...

Where do you get the... No, the main ingredient. Come on, the main ingredient. Yeah, come on, come on. What? No, the entire... What are you cooking your street rooster with? Just water? Just boiled... Yeah, catch it. What? No, that's...

You're gonna harvest olive oil. Dumbass. You have to cultivate cream from the wild. It's the main ingredient. Yeah, come on. Okay, well, that changes everything. That's fine. Forest is up for two here. That's nice, by the way, because I also have a persimmon tree, and I

don't really like persimmons, so I'd like to figure out a good use for them. I do like the flavor. I don't like the texture. So consume an ice cream. That's a good thought. Yeah. Let's make some next time we hang out. I'll bring the maker to the studio. We'll set it up. Some of the peppercorns in there. All right, so I've got my

dumpster turkey as my main course. I am going to pair that with things that I know I can get. One is not as easy to get as Patrick's Persimmons, but is wild Chantrell's. We've just had an amazing rain in California. I love wild mushrooms. Chantrells go nicely with white meat. So it's going to be a nice side, like a nice gravy, Chantrell gravy to put on

the turkey. Now, we need something, so we've got something hearty, we've got a hearty gravy, jungle potatoes were taken from me by a guy who's raiding a farm. So I am going to, I'm going to have, I need something green and refreshing. So I'm going to do a nice, miners lettuce salad. So this time of year, it grows everywhere, including in all of our neighborhoods. Miner's lettuce. It's that round leaf. It's actually very, very tasty. You can pick it anywhere. I'm going to do a nice miners lettuce salad to go with my turkey and chantrel gravy. Okay. That's a good start. Hopefully you're going to have a good dessert because I don't think you've won yet. I haven't wowed anybody, yeah. No, no. I mean, look, the chantrelles are going to be nice.

Yeah. Okay, so I've got my duck. I already know my dessert. So I'm You're going to have a beautiful glazed duck. To go along with that, because duck is fatty, right? And it's kind of heavy, and the glaze is sweet. It's a heavy, heavy thing. So I'm not going to go with the traditional heavy side. I want you to have a really refreshing, lovely salad made from dandelion greens. It's very trendy.

When you go to a fancy restaurant, they will serve dandelion greens as like an elevated salad. I happen to know that there's a park right by me with lots of dandelion greens. Dandelions. Eerie. You can get it from a park in L.A.? I'll wash them. I'm going to make you a nice dandelion green salad. Sounds very nice.

Yeah, thank you. Peter, what do you want to add to your... Five? Two. Five. Yep, you're up for five picks. Okay, well, you know, mushrooms sound good. So knowing that forest will be foraging for them,

I will follow him into the mushroom territory. And find some other type of mushrooms, maybe Morels. I know those are difficult to find. But since I'm tracking and following and subsequently killing Forrest, he'll be out of the competition anyways. Smart. In fact, I'll just steal his mushrooms. And I will make a delicious cream of mushroom soup. Sounds great.

Sounds delicious. Yeah. With blood on your hands, sir. So we have chicken, yams, and cream of mushroom soup. soup. Very nice. Yeah. And then for my dessert,

this is my final. They don't go together well, yams and cream of mushroom. No. You don't know that. That's really not a match made in heaven. You don't know anything about it. So my final,

my dessert will be since I have both a lemon and an orange tree in my new backyard, I will have delicious lemons with which to make a lemon meringue pie for dessert with a

splash of either tangerine or orange. I'm not sure what it is yet, but it's one of those fruits. Okay, so a zesty, fruity pie? Yeah, a little bit of the zest will go in there as well. That'll be nice after the cream of mushroom. Citrus pie, okay. Yeah, citrus pie. Look, glazed duck, you've got the nice, refreshing salad.

So I'm going to go something a little hardier. I want it to match the sweetness of the glazed duck. So I am going to make a dish that I actually make very well. Glazed carrots. Now, do I know exactly where I'm going to find the carrots? No, but I will tell you that 90% of all domestic carrots are grown in California. So I'll just Google it. I'll find an area where carrots grow.

I know they grow on the ground. I can easily dig them out. And it's going to be a balsamic reduction on my glazed carrots. Okay. Very good. Very good. Well, I have a delightful roast dumpster turkey, some heavy chantrum gravy, a nice miners lettuce salad, and to accompany my meal to round it up. Actually, and I'm not just saying this, my favorite dessert, which is just fresh wild berries.

Now, this time of year, it's blackberries. I'd love to mix it with some blueberries because I think they go together very well. But if not, just fresh blackberries, a little bit of whipped cream with some sugar in the cream. That's it. Just fresh. It's literally my favorite dessert. Can I hopped your whipped cream bottle? you're done with it?

Sure. You can have the empty bottle to just huff the air out like a lunatic. That's fine. Perfect. I like that. I like that Battle Royale because I had to think about stuff that I could find. What's wrong with cream and mushroom, by the way? I just don't know that it goes well with the sweetness of the yams.

Or the lemon pie. No, the lemon pie is a dessert. Lemon meringue pie. What are you talking about? No, I know. It sounds delicious. I eat any of these meals. For Thanksgiving are made with cream of mushroom soup.

I would eat roast dumpster turkey. I would eat glazed pool duck. I would eat roast a street rooster. No question. I would have any of these. They sound delicious. Yeah. Let us know who you think won.

We take a lot of pride in finding just one person that says I won. That makes me feel good. So, yeah, let us know. Run it down for us. Yeah. All right. No, we got it, right? Did I go through it?

No, I didn't. Okay. So, yeah, give us a vote. Is it my meal of rice? roasted turkey with Chantrell gravy, miners lettuce salad, and delicious fresh berries and cream. Is it Patrick's glazed swimming pool duck,

his fresh persimine ice cream at the end? I should have done that in the wrong order. His dandelion green salad and glazed carrots to accompany, said duck, or is it Peter's lovely L.A. Street rooster with some fresh yams, some cream of mushroom soup, and a delicious citrus pie at the end.

Marang pie. Citrus pie. You just said fruit pie when you explained it. I did that.

I said 11 marang I'm picturing a hostess fruit pie. Yeah. Still delicious. Well,

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Love you. Oh, my God. Do the thing. I'm dancing. There is no. There is. I'm a one-trick pony. That's a nice.

No trick pony. That is nice. You're a street rooster.