Wild Times: Wildlife Education - TWT #88 – THYLACINE IN PAPUA NEW GUINEA?, CANNIBAL TRIBES & PARTY TOWNS

Episode Date: January 17, 2022

Forrest Galante & The Wild Times crew are back talking about the possibilities of the Tasmanian Tiger, Thylacine, being alive in Papua New Guinea. It's a remote island with cannibal tribes. We love yo...u! Patreon @ https://patreon.com/wildtimespod All the links @ https://thewildtimespodcast.com/links

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wild Times. Try to do the thing. We're back. We're back. We're back. And I sound great. Episode 88 of the Wild Times podcast, the COVID-Diest podcast on the air.
Starting point is 00:00:22 How are you guys? I'm great. I'm fucking way better than you, man. No, I'm good. That was very unfortunate timing. I do, however, have the Rona. So I think the brosters are aware of this if you're tuning in for the first time. I am your host, Forrest Galante.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I am a walking biohazard because I have COVID. Patrick Duluca has also had COVID, was unaffected, is obviously a much stronger person than I am. And Peter is a super spreader because he has no symptoms whatsoever, but probably has had it for two and a half years. Yeah, from day one, baby. I've had every variant, variant. Very aunt You know, Forrest, I feel like you were Very
Starting point is 00:01:08 You just don't worry about this shit, right? You were one of the people Who made me feel okay about not taking You know, I don't take anti-malarial You're like, ah, you know, I just don't want to take extra shit You took the vaccine as soon as it was available to you I did But you were, you just lived your life
Starting point is 00:01:27 Pretty much the whole time Like even during this big scary lockdown, and I feel like you're like, I got to live my life. Yeah. I don't believe in living in fear. And by the way, I don't think this is what everybody should do because then the virus would probably be worse. But, you know, I wouldn't say that I did everything normally because I wasn't, you know, going to house parties and going to bars and things like that. But I wasn't willing to lock myself in my house and be a complete shut in and, you know, be terrified of the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah. You know, I remember saying this and it's kind of funny. Do you guys remember when COVID started? There was like that whole like lockdown and everybody stay indoors. And I was on here going, don't stay indoors. Go for a hike. Like go swimming. Go to the beach.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And then for a little while immediately after we said that, there was like, don't go outside even. Like you're a bad, irresponsible person if you do that. And I was like, well, I just shot myself in the foot because I just said everybody should do that. But I sort of stand by that, which was I just, I can't imagine in any scenario, regardless of the situation, living. living a life in fear of something. So yeah, just get on with living my life. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Not at age 30, 32, you know? Like, maybe if you're 80 and you're like, I want to watch my grandkids grow up, I'll just. Of course, of course. And it'll, you know, I don't have any preexisting conditions. I'm healthy overall, you know, there's, there's variables. But my variables are just get on with your life, you know. Like live your life. You get sick. It's not like you didn't do anything. I mean, you got the vaccine. You stayed away from, I mean, you typically stay away from people anyways because you're out, or like you just with your tight circle mushroom hunting or
Starting point is 00:03:05 going somewhere, whatever. Like it's not, you know, you just and you did, you excluded the bars and the fucking house parties, man, which is where everything basically spread, which was like, exactly. So. So let me ask you this
Starting point is 00:03:20 for us just because, you know, a lot of people like hearing other people's stories, especially because probably 80% of people listening right now also have COVID. Exactly. What made you get tested? Did you just like come down with something? So I, my guy that I work out with at the gym every day texted me and he's like, hey, bro, sorry, but I just tested positive for COVID.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I'm feeling a little bad. And I was like, oh, that sucks. So I stopped going to the gym, felt absolutely fine, skipped like a whole week of going to the gym. Because I was like, yeah, you know, I don't know who else has it, whatever, whatever. And then I did, I started to have a bit of a headache and a little bit of an itchy throat. So he told me he had COVID on Monday. and I started to have a headache and itchy throat on like Friday. And I was like, okay, well, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:05 I probably have it. I ordered some COVID tests. But, and I started taking them and I've been taking them regularly, blah, blah, blah, you know, to see, do I still have it? Can I go back out in public? Blah, blah, blah. But I forced myself to go and jump in the ocean without a wetsuit every day during COVID. In the Pacific, right?
Starting point is 00:04:24 The Pacific Ocean, which is very, very cold. Yep. Yeah. this time of year. It's January. But I... Now, why did you do that? Just... Whenever I was...
Starting point is 00:04:35 I haven't had a cold in years, but whenever I used to get colds and stuff, like in college, I'd always go dive in the ocean. I swear, something about that, like, shock of the cold water, felt like it, like,
Starting point is 00:04:46 woke up my immune system, like it kicked it into overdrive. It's probably absolute nonsense and probably contrary in scientific backing. But that's how I felt. It does have scientific backing. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I'm guessing on all of this, but I was just, It does. If I go and, like, shock myself, it, like, kicks the system into overdrive. And so it's been years since I've had a cold or anything like that. But I was like, you know what? I'm going to do what I used to do. It's going to go jump in the ocean for a second and sort of shock the system.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Did it every day, you know, felt – I never felt terrible. I felt bad. And I sounded really bad for a few days. Yeah. But never felt terrible. Good. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Happy you're alive. Happy everything's good. Yeah, it was nice to see. see the text this morning that you're ready to pod. Your voice was working again. I want to talk. I want to have a little bit of a theme to this podcast. We'll do the news.
Starting point is 00:05:39 We'll do the battle royale. But I, with all of this sort of thylacine stuff that's been out there, us and Neil Waters, we had cookie on. And it seems like the viewers really like all this stuff. I want to kind of do like, not definitive, because I didn't tell you about this and you're not prepared. Correct. I want to talk thylacine for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Sure. All right. I assume that's the noise of thylacine made. Is that right? Accurate? Do you have new audio bites? Is this going to be a thing, a whole podcast? Maybe they sounded like a hyenas.
Starting point is 00:06:12 He does. He has new audio bites. No, they hiss. They hissed the thylacine, didn't they? Right. Yep. That's what they... Okay, so I was reading an article
Starting point is 00:06:20 because, you know, you had talked about the Papua New Guinea theory, and so I just wanted to, like, read about it as, you know, up. Sure. drinking alone last night. So I came across this article about sort of this island that's, I think, on the Indonesia side of the Wallace line called Orion Jaya. And this is this really unexplored island where, you know, they had fossil evidence or, no, they found a jawbone to show that the thylosine had once lived there. But there is this cool thing where there, you know, there are some
Starting point is 00:06:58 there are some native villages there where they talk about this sort of canine type creature with a giant mouth, which I didn't know. Like there's a little bit of the sort of local lore kind of thing. Was this one of the sort of reasons that
Starting point is 00:07:14 you had originally thought if we got a third season of Extincter Alive that maybe we'd go to either New Guinea or Orion Jaya? Yes and no. So at one point in time, thylacine, and we know this, and there are multiple subspecies of thylacine, by the way, the largest one, which name I'm blanking on right now, but it's like
Starting point is 00:07:36 thylacina, the, fuck, I can't remember the Latin name because I'm on the spot, but there are multiple subspecies of thylacine, right? The largest one ranged in Papua New Guinea. But regardless, at one point in time, thylacine range from New Guinea, not just popper, New Guinea, but New Guinea is, you know, it's two countries put together. It's West Papua and Papua New Guinea, the Indonesian side and Papua New Guinea. Australia and Tasmania all the way down, and that's a huge geographical area. I think a lot of people don't realize how big just Australia is, and now you're adding in two other countries. It's funny because if you look on a map, especially of Papua New Guinea, if you pull this up, anybody that's listening to this, and just
Starting point is 00:08:18 look at the roads in Papua New Guinea. There's like three in the whole country. And if you look in West Papua, there's like zero. Like the whole center of the country doesn't have a road. Anyway, the reason that it's so fascinating is what happened was their thylacine all the way down, you know, PNG, Australia, Tasmania. Then humans came over around 4,000 years ago. And with them, when they settled these regions, they brought with them from, you know, Asia side. They brought with them dogs, dingoes. And so a lot of people don't know this, but dingoes are actually not a native animal to Australia, right? This is an animal that was introduced by people about 4,000 years ago. And the dingoes primarily out-competed the thylacine. Now, the reason that, yeah, look at that.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So, zoom in. Sorry, if you're listening on audio and not watching on YouTube, we're looking at a map of PNG, that is the only, those are the only roads in the country, right? And if you think about the size of the country. Now, zoom out, Peter, and go over to West Papua, just scroll left. And you'll see there's, there's none. Like, there's, that's it in PNG. and West Papua has nothing. It's wild. And there's villages all throughout it. And we'll circle back.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I'm going a very long-winded way of answering Patrick's question. Oh, it's cool. It's interesting. This shit. So there are Thalasian all the way. People came over from Indonesia side, from the Asian side 4,000 years ago,
Starting point is 00:09:37 brought with them dogs, hunting dogs, which were basically dingoes. They got out, they roamed around. And the dingoes, as traditional mammals and not marsupial carnivores, were better predators than thylacine. So they out-competed them. in most of their range.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Now, that works for a couple of reasons and doesn't work for a couple of reasons with regards to the thylacine theory. Dingoes are like a plains animal. They like open-spacy areas. They're not a heavy jungle area. Well, most of Papua New Guinea is a heavy jungle area, right? And different species, as I said,
Starting point is 00:10:11 of thylacine would be affected differently by dingoes, the largest of which, and I'll figure out the name of it. Yeah, there were seven subspecies. one that was as small as a house cat and then up to the biggest one, which is like this size of a dog. Thank you. Yeah, you, yeah. I don't know. I don't have the name of it, though. Yeah, and I can't... But I also, once you're done with this,
Starting point is 00:10:31 I have an amazing bombshell for you. Okay. I just discovered, but go ahead. I saw him smirking, and I was like, he just smirking too, and I'm curious, yeah. I'm just going to say that we are mentioned in a new book about thylacine. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Silasinusin is potens was the largest one. P-O-T-N-S. And somewhere, see if I could find it. Here's a pretty good graphic if you're looking for like the different sizes compared to human beings. Oh, yeah. That big one is stout too. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's like a big pit bull. Exactly. And potennis was the one that was in Papua New Guinea. So it was the largest. So it had the best chance of competing with dingoes. While there are dingoes and singing dogs and things like that in Papua New Guinea, they prefer different habitat to what thylacine prefer traditionally. Now, that sort of leads to the idea that,
Starting point is 00:11:19 thylacine could still be living if unaffected by dingo in certain region and different species and so on and so forth. So that's a very broad strokes way of looking at it. That also very definitively explains why thylacine existed in Tasmania up until very recently where they were driven to extinction
Starting point is 00:11:38 in mainland Australia 4,000 years ago because dingo's gotten to Australia and dingoes were never introduced into Tasmania which is what allowed thylacine to continue down there. So they are a delicate animal and as long as, they were geographically isolated from people, geographically isolated from dingoes,
Starting point is 00:11:54 whether that's in Papua, New Guinea, West Papua, Australia, parts of Tasmania, they could continue to exist. Yeah. That's, yeah. Go ahead. I want one as a pet. Everybody does.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I mean, look how cute this is. This is the cutest feline that I've ever seen. I love when they curl up. Nope. Nope. Not feline. That's true. It's not.
Starting point is 00:12:14 But it's hideous. It's hideous. But it's curled into a little bagel ball. and I love when animals do this little curl thing and it always just gets me right in the sub-cockles of my heart. Well, this Orion Jaya place, as Forrest mentioned, it's a place that it did historically live. This place is pretty unexplored.
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's on the Wallace line, which is basically a way of saying it's awfully fucking dangerous to go in there. And, you know, the last expedition that went in there, They found four new species of mammal, right? So it is truly quite unexplored. But here's what I just got super excited about. So a study was published in 2021 by an Australian professor
Starting point is 00:13:05 and also the chair of environmental sustainability at the University of Tasmania. What's his name? What's a professor's name? Barry William Brooke published a study in 2021 in which he doesn't purport. that it's still around, he basically purports that it probably went extinct much later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yes, I know the study. I remember that. Yeah. I think I referenced it in one of the shows, actually. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, he's saying, more likely between the late 90s and early 2000s. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And then it goes on to talk about, you know, the reason behind this was the lack of, the lack of confirmed sightings during that time was there just wasn't a wide deployment of trail cameras yet. And one of the things he references is that trail cameras were recently used to confirm the presence of these Zanzibar Leopard. Oh, very cool. Very, very cool. Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I mean, no, come on, that's fantastic. It's a real study by a real guy at a real university. That's really fucking cool. I love it. No, it's fantastic. And so, it's interesting. There's this guy that reached out to me recently. He's an Australian filmmaker,
Starting point is 00:14:15 and I've been communicating with him back and So as you can imagine, I get a lot of people sending me fucking weirdo stuff, right? Like, the big one is you're an idiot. There are Black Panthers. My Pappy saw one. And I get those a lot. Secondly, I get a lot of, like, thylacine sighting nonsense. But this guy reached out to me, youngish guy.
Starting point is 00:14:38 He's an Australian filmmaker. He lives in Sydney. And he's worked in Papua New Guinea extensively. And his parents are from PNG, or at least one of his parents. And he told an interesting story about how while he was working in PNG, he gave these pilots a bunch of photos of different animals. And one of the animals was the New Guinea singing dog, the Highland Singing Dog. One of them was a tree kangaroo. One of them was a thylacine.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And he gave these pilots these different things. And this one pilot came back from this region that is in Irian Gaya in West Papua, in the central valley near this big mountain. I could point out on a map, I can't pronounce any of the names. And he says, so there's two people, like, there's two groups of foreigners that go into this valley. One is this Indonesian trekking company that's like, it's this incredibly expensive thing. It's fly-in only, and you fly in, you land, you trek up the tallest mountain in West Papua. And, you know, it's like only a handful of people do it and blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like incredibly expensive.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Nobody in the Indonesian fixer side, the trekking company side, speaks any English. And then the pilot was the other guy. So he gives them all these photos. And independently of each other, both the pilot and the Indonesian trekking company, the pilot reports that, hey, when I've flown into this area where this mountain is, where occasionally tourists go to, the locals have reported seeing not this one, like no to the singing dog, which is known in the country, by the way, but wrong altitude, wrong elevation. And no, they haven't seen this tree kangaroo, but yes, they all know this. the thylacine. Now independently
Starting point is 00:16:17 of that, this guy was telling me how the Indonesian trekking company that he emailed all these photos to go, hey, if you do a trek with us, no way you'll see these singing dogs. We've never seen them. You might see tree kangaroo in the lowland, but it's a different species. And yeah, about
Starting point is 00:16:33 three times, we, as tourists from Indonesia, have seen this and pointed to the thylosine picture. So two different reports from two independent sources that happen to have gone into the same very remote location in central West Papua have told this guy that I'm been communicating with, this Australian filmmaker,
Starting point is 00:16:54 that they believe that the thylacine is in this area. Now, to add to that, which is pretty fascinating, and this is the thing that got me really talking to this guy, he sent me tons of information, pictures, and satellite images and all kinds of stuff, and he's not like a quack. He's, like, really, really fascinated by it. Yeah, it sounds awesome. He showed me the geographical area.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Now, when you look at it, in fact, Peter, go ahead, pull up that West Papua map again one more time, if you don't mind. Sure. One second. He showed me this area, and he pointed out this mountain, and I can't remember I can dig through my email and find all the answers to all of this. But if you look at Erie and Jai, if you look at West Papua specifically, not the PNG side, the central valley of the entire country is geographically isolated by these mountains basically on all sides. and as we just saw, there are pretty much no roads. So you have this whole area that is impenetrable to dingoes because it's so, yeah, so zoom in there, Peter. And you can kind of see, yeah, zoom in a little bit more. Stay, yeah, that's good right there.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And then switch over to layers to your satellite imagery. Sorry, just go terrain. That's fine. Look dead in center of the screen right now. There you go, right there. See where the river is? Look at how there's a giant valley in the center. Yep, your cursor's over it right now.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, that's cool. There's a giant valley in the center of West Papua. There are zero roads. There are basically no towns. There's one village up the one tributary of the river. And it's fully geographically surrounded by impenetrable mountains that nobody can get to. That big mountain that I was referring to, you see it there with the little green mountain symbol. That's the mountain that occasionally, occasionally people will fly in.
Starting point is 00:18:41 and trek up that mountain. But it's like super expensive, you know, rich people on expedition kind of thing, private helicopters, blah, blah, blah. But look at this whole central valley, which is good thylacine habitat, completely cut off from the rest of the world by truly impenetrable mountains because the mountains in Papua and West Papua are unbelievable. I mean, not even the local hunting parties are like capable of traversing them. I mean, they're like the animites.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They're just like they're unpassable. And so, yeah, you just. have this whole giant valley sitting in the center of this island, completely biologically unexplored, completely unpenetrated, nobody living there, only the odd hunting party and trekking company going in there, and no, as far as I know, like, no legitimate biological surveys or studies, and absolutely, definitely not any large-scale camera trap surveys. Right. I mean, think about the amount of money it would take to go in there.
Starting point is 00:19:37 You basically are going to have to go over, I would think, go over. on a ship that has a chopper on board. Yeah. You know, would be the only reasonable way. Right, and then you need a chopper to get you in there. Keep in mind, this is in the heart of West Papua, which is, I think it's IAida, but cannibal territory. And this is not like a fallacy, like, nonsense, like TV thing. This is where cannibals still live and actively hunt each other and eat each other.
Starting point is 00:20:03 This whole valley that's impenetrable, not only is it not unreasonable to think that thylosine could be there, although it is a long shot, it's not unreasonable to think that there could be eight other species of megafauna there. I mean, think about the Sala, right? Discovered in the 90s, an animal the size of a cow
Starting point is 00:20:22 in Vietnam. Like, Vietnam has a gazillion people everywhere. Like, you know, like everywhere. Like, even up in the animites and stuff, you have these pretty big towns. Like, they're really not little villages. They're, like, bordering on the word city. And it wasn't until 95 that we discovered
Starting point is 00:20:39 the Sala existed. And that's an animal the size of, of a cow running around, you know. Granted, that's like a special case, but the place that a large megafauna still exists that we don't know about, whether it's thylacine, whether it's thylacolia, whether it's something completely undescribed, is that area we just looked at on a map, for sure. It's pretty amazing. I was looking at some, you know, because I, of course, being a TV producer, you got to look
Starting point is 00:21:05 at everything. And so I did a lot of research on the, I've been a butcher the name, Corowai. Carl I think is the... Carly. It's funny, you know, there's an Italian photojournalist who went in there in 2019 and got amazing photos.
Starting point is 00:21:22 The stilted ones, right? Where he stayed in the canopy with them and yeah, they're all covered in the white paint. I know the article. I wrote a pitch on that shit on basically reliving that and never went anywhere. Amazing photos. And he, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:37 got into the whole Kakuo ritual. where that is what leads to the cannibalism. It's when someone gets sick and they think there's a demon inside them. Right. And then as you're researching it, you'll find, like, I found like 10 anthropologists who had never been there who had written articles being like,
Starting point is 00:21:56 no, they don't still do that. Oh, dude. So where is this going? Is this going on YouTube or is this going on the Patreon? Because I need to watch my words. YouTube? Watch your words. I will still watch my words.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But I'll tell you guys a story. story. So exactly to what Patrick just said, and I don't mean to get on like a big... By the way, the unedited version of this story will go on the Patreon. Yes, I'm happy to you. So after this podcast, we will have you tell the full Patreon version. Okay, you got it. That's fine. So the four public appearance version is... I know the exact article you're talking about. I know about the tribe and how they eat their... As you said, so they eat their sick or they're dying as a means to basically curb an evil spirit before it spread on to others, right?
Starting point is 00:22:41 And there was a whole omen, and there's, like, a lot to it. But, um, so I wrote, I wrote this up, right? And I pitched it to, as did every other production company in L.A. I'm sure. And I wrote it up and you probably did the same thing. And I pitched it, right? And I pitched it with me as the host, which I thought made sense because I'm an adventure guy, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And I pitched it. And I won't say who, but who I pitched it to really liked it, right? And they were like, oh, this was awesome. Like, I had no way. we have never, you know, at that time, they're like, nobody has pitched this with like the right angle and the right person to go in and do it. And I was like, great. Like, I've always, as everybody that listens to this podcast knows, PNG's number one of my bucket list and Papua, the whole thing. Yeah. And so I pitched it. And then like weeks go by, three weeks, whatever. I'm edge of my
Starting point is 00:23:29 seat waiting every day to hear that like I got the green light to develop a special to go and, you know, hang out with cannibals in the middle of West Papua. And, uh, and finally that I get a call on the book scheduled with said person and said network. And who hops on the call, this person, and about three pimple-faced teenagers, right? And they weren't teenagers. They're probably in their early 20s. And the person that I have my Zoom with introduces me and says, this is, you know, our research team. And unfortunately, we kind of continue with the show. And I'm like, why is that? Like, you told me you loved it. Like you asked me for a budget, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, oh, well, our research team here has dug up evidence to say that
Starting point is 00:24:09 cannibals aren't actually real in today's world. And I'm looking at these three 19-year-old, you know, research team, like fresh out of college, you know, that are just literally sitting on Google while smoking a vape. And they're the one saying, they're the ones saying that cannibals aren't real for that mega corporation network. And I'm sitting here going, they've never been there. I don't know what they're reading, but they don't know what they're talking about. Like, you know, who are these people to dictate what is or isn't real when we could go in there and do a show?
Starting point is 00:24:41 And if it's not real, we'll say it's not real when we get back. But, like, this is a published thing that the Karowai tribe do this. And it's very well known in the anthropological world. And yet here are three pimple-faced teenagers saying that cannibalism is gone. It's not real. It's so crazy because a big production company that I was doing some. work with had a paid development probably for a different network about the same thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And they made a beautiful deck and a whole well-researched thing and a production plan and how are we going to get the, you know, all the stuff. Yep. And they had this, it may have been the same network actually because they had the same thing happened. No way. They were like, yeah, the research team. I, dude, I had one of my biggest developments that I ever did.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I don't want to get too sidetracked. No, it's interesting. But it was a team of hackers, a big streaming network. one of the biggest scripted producers in the sort of crime mystery space was working with him on it. And massive development had basically the talent was this group of hackers that is like one of the biggest group of like white hat, sort of gray hat, good guy hackers. That's rad. All of this stuff. And ultimately at the 11th hour, the streaming network said that the.
Starting point is 00:26:02 that their internal like, you know, computer guys said that there's no criminals doing anything on the dark web anymore. Oh, come on. I swear to God, killed 12 weeks of a full team of people working on it because
Starting point is 00:26:21 some computer guy at the thing was like, no, there's no crime on the dark web anymore. The hilarious part is... I can personally... Oh, Peter, yeah, why don't you talk to this? Because I have a friend, friend of the pod, actually, and I won't name him, who I have seen order drugs off of the
Starting point is 00:26:35 dark web. I literally sat and watched him do it. And this was like two years ago. This was not a long time ago. There's a literal, first of all, there's a literal cryptocurrency that was built called Manero that's based, it's based around privacy so that you can
Starting point is 00:26:51 buy drugs and other things on the dark web without being tracked. That's why the currency, you know, privacy, whatever, but that's what everybody uses it for. And also, There's, I mean, these guys are morons. There's a subreddit called Darknet Market Busts. D-NB busts where they talk about, it's just posts of all these ridiculous busts that go on,
Starting point is 00:27:17 of people getting busts with like 200 pounds of fentanyl they were shipping out, all these pressed Xanax bars. It is flourishing. I got a question for you. I got a question for you. That sucks, Patrick. And sometimes I just wonder, I want to just. I want to just rip my hair out because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:33 who are you listening to and why? And why do you not trust the people whose job are to give you the correct information? And the people who are willing to go there and make an earnest documentary where it's just as satisfying of an ending to say this is something they used to do, they don't do it anymore. Correct. It's still about the adventure, right? You're going to get malaria. You're going to fucking trek through amazing jungle habitat. You're going to eat bugs.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Anyway. Well, is there any chance? Oh, yeah. Go ahead. No, I just wanted to ask you this. So I don't know what the dark web is. If I went to Google and typed in dark web, do I get there?
Starting point is 00:28:09 How do you get to a dark web? No. Okay. It doesn't really matter. We don't need a step by step. The question is this. I thought how you ask a question. No.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Okay. I got you. No, I'm still getting to my question. It's a question and it's a pitch to Patrick at the same time. Why don't we take world-renowned wildlife biologist Forrest Galante, team him up with the group of badass hacks. white hat hackers that you just mentioned, get RETEP as a consultant, and bust people, and here comes my question, if this is happening, Peter, are wildlife trafficking is the third
Starting point is 00:28:42 largest industry in the world, illegal industry in the world. Is wildlife trafficking happening on the dark web? And if so, how do we, how do we, how do we go in there and bust it up and ruin it? That's a, that's a very interesting question that I unfortunately don't know the answer to, but if it was going on, it would definitely be happening there because it's set up so that you can do things of this nature and communicate and it's all encrypted and goes through all your identities obfuscated. So it's got to be happening, right? People got to be selling tigers and cobras and all this kind of shit on the dark web because you're not listing it on Craigslist, you know, and there's there's definitely a huge market for it. I mean, it's,
Starting point is 00:29:28 got to be happening on the dark web wildlife trafficking we need those we need those people-faced researchers to get on this and see if it's happening they don't know a couple a couple years ago just going back to the cannibal thing i was i did a show for national geographic that was called the atlas of cursed places it was actually a really good show i remember that i'm proud of it's a cool show but one of the episodes we did was in romania and uh i had when i was researching romania and just cool shit to film there, I had found a piece that was done for like Vice Romania. It was like a 12-minute short film
Starting point is 00:30:04 that a filmmaker in Romania had made where he went to this little village in a remote part of Romania and found this guy who was the last vampire hunter of Romania, right? And purported to be this thing where they have a legend in the village of the village, the village, which we went to, they had a legend of this thing called a moroy, right? And it's their version of a vampire. But basically, when a relative dies and then someone in the family gets sick shortly thereafter, it is the relative has turned into a moroy who's been buried.
Starting point is 00:30:42 So their kind of, their spirit is kind of coming back from the dead and infecting the relative. And so what this guy, as the vampire hunter of the village, he goes to the graveyard, digs up the body, takes the heart, brings it back, turns the heart into a milkshake, the person who's sick drinks it, and gets better. Narnly. So I saw this thing and I was like, I got in touch with the filmmaker because I wanted to do it for our TV show because nobody saw this piece on Vice Romania. I was like, this would be fucking awesome. So basically he's like, no, they don't have phones. The way you do it is you drive down there seven hours and you go to the village and knock on his door, I can come with you because he trusts me a little bit. He's like, but that's the only way to get a hold of him.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So now we have a decision to make on a TV production schedule. Do we get into cars drive seven hours with the potential? He's not there, you know, or he's, you know, whatever. So we did the whole thing. We went. It was awesome. It's all covered on the Romania episode. This guy's name was Mercia Mitrika. And we went,
Starting point is 00:31:53 he didn't want to talk to us in the village because he didn't want any attention. So we went to his goat fold where he keeps his goats about 10 miles outside of time. No, they're just regular votes. That's just what he does for his job. He just raises goats and eats them. And we went
Starting point is 00:32:09 and fucking talk to this guy. He obviously didn't speak English, but through a translator. And he, I mean, I mean, his story's unfucking believable. When he was 16, he became anointed the vampire hunter of the town because he was so brave. And they still do it. They still, as of two years ago, when someone gets sick shortly after a relative dies, this is what they do. And it's just their custom, and it's fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And it couldn't have been a more pleasant guy to talk to either. Yeah. Can I suggest that we anoint Forrest, the vampire hunter of, uh, Southern California. The greater Santa Barbara area. He's the bravest guy I know in Southern California. That's too bad because I think it would be such a rad show. First of all, that's a scary proposition, right?
Starting point is 00:33:02 Like, if you had sold that show and you said, hey, Patrick, can you come out in the field with me? We're going to have an adventure. This one feels, I don't know if I would do it. I would have soft pitched it to you, though. I wouldn't have been like, hey, Patrick, we're going to. the middle. I would have done like a typical forest Galante like, look, Pat, like, dude, it would be awesome if you came with. We're going to go to this place, beautiful tropical coconuts. I mean, we would drink so many coconuts. I'll bring a bottle of rum. I'll get you
Starting point is 00:33:30 super fired up. And then you'll be like, okay, well, where are we going? I'll be, you know, it's like, it's like Indonesia-ish. Like, it's in that region. You know, your heads, yeah, your head's going to bikinis and white sand beaches. And I just slowly leak out the fact that we're going to the heart of cannibal country, you know, over a few weeks and then see how you respond. But, uh, Pat's very, his meat looks very, uh, thin and grimy. I don't think they'd want to eat him. No, he's too lean. He's too lean. He would not be tender at all. No, he'd be, the cari, they're treehouses. Pull it up if you can, Peter, while we're talking here. The Karawai treehouses, they're fucking incredible, man. They have tree houses that are like a hundred foot up a tree.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah. And they're no. So they only live in those for a part of the season, and then they abandon them and go and build other ones somewhere else. I mean, it's amazing. I can't remember it all because it was years ago that I did all the research and the deck and everything. But no, they're absolutely fascinating the houses they live in. I just want to double down on something, too. This Italian photojournalist who went in there, the tribe had not seen a white person in 45 years. Yeah, isn't that crazy? He goes in in 2019, witnesses all this, writes about it, photographs it, and then some dorks at a network are like, nah, that's not true? Exactly. That's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:34:55 To both me and you, it sounds like. Wait, so what happened? Wasn't there a story recently where a guy got basically killed for doing this? With the tribe of cannibals, did you guys hear about that? Yes, not cannibals. They weren't cannibals.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah. So there's an island off Singapore? I want to say Singapore. You can look it up. If you Google like missionary killed by tribe or something like that in Asia, it'll come right up. And it's this island. I'm blanking on the name of it. I want to say it's off the coast of Singapore. It's called the people, the tribe he tried to contact. It's called North Sentinel Island. It's part of India. It's part of India. It's part of India, but if you look, it's not like India adjacent. It's like in the middle of
Starting point is 00:35:38 nowhere. But anyway, yeah, it's North Sentinel Island. It's North Carolina. It's North Sentinel Island and a missionary tried to go in there to spread the word of God. And it was, it's been, you know, like the India, who I believe owns it, as Patrick said, is like nobody can go there. Like these people do not, they want to be left alone. They want to live their way. They're completely uncontacted. And this missionary decided to like charter a boat and take the people that, I remember the story, the people that he chartered the boat from were like, we will not take you there will take you to like outside of arrow reach of the island and then he like had to row in on a canoe or a kayak or a dinghy or something stepped foot on the island and just like 40 arrows
Starting point is 00:36:21 came flying out of the bushes at him and uh that was the end of him so you know my god the lesson there is maybe don't and it's funny because you think of it from both sides he thought like i'm gonna go there and save these people from eternal damnation right which i'm against by the way like i don't think that's a good thing to be doing is like trying to brainwash people into your religion. But that's what he thought, right? He thought he was trying to spread the word of God and do something good for them. They're like, fuck off. Like, leave us alone.
Starting point is 00:36:52 They literally, yeah, they don't want your bullshit. Yeah, it's like, it's like fucking medieval times. Dude, arrows are the first defense. You just fucking step on this island and you got 40 arrows coming at you. Sounds fucking terrifying. I don't blame them. I say good for, good for the people. of North Sentinel Island for being like, we don't want to be part of the rest of the world.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Like, we want to stay on our island. We got things pretty good over here. Like, do not come here. And I love that. I think it's awesome. It is. And they're right. It's a fascinating story.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Jeez. Yeah. And it's, they're right because, like, they don't even know about COVID. First of all. They don't have the news. They're not watching TV. Their brains aren't rotting. Dude, I was at the gym.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I'm at the gym. And there's a thousand fucking TVs in front of me. And, like, it's, Like it's Fox News, Friends, CNN, some stupid TLC show. Like, and I'm just like, I cannot look at these televisions. I just look straightforward because it's just like a disease of, of fucking, you know, so-called entertainment. Like the news headlines are absurd.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It's just like coronavirus. Millions killed like and then like CNN or Fox said something like just Biden, sucking dicks all day. in the Oval Office. It's just like mental, dude. Also, also like, so this guy, John, John Allen Chow, who, you know, he had believed, he wrote a bunch of the stuff in letters. He thought this island was Satan's last stronghold on Earth.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I'm not making fun. I'm really not making fun of the dead guy. That's crazy, though. But so he chartered these two fishermen. It was illegal. They were arrested eventually. But he made like five attempts over the course of two days. So they stopped about 2,000 meters from.
Starting point is 00:38:37 the shore, warned him not to go closer. He took a canoe. They came out and gave a hostile response. He went back. He tried to go back again and speak to them. They erupted in laughter. Then he eventually tried to go back and a young boy shot a metal-tipped arrow that he was holding a Bible and it went through the Bible that he was holding on his canoe, which feels like that's a pretty good warning shot. And then finally two days later, he said, I'm going to be able to be going and he told the fishermen to leave without him, but they didn't. He was committed to this. He went to the shore and he said, the fisherman said almost immediately they saw them dragging
Starting point is 00:39:18 his dead body. So they weren't alone. You know what I mean? Just fucking leave them alone. Yeah. Who's the idiot here? And I know you said you're not making fun of the dead guy, but like, it's Satan's last stronghold?
Starting point is 00:39:33 First of all, shut up. Secondly, like, just, if it is, do you? really want to go there and like, what's the logic here? And I know people probably say the same thing about me trying to go find cannibals in Papua New Guinea, but it's like, what, what's the logic behind this? Like, you know, the difference is, is that, you know, you just said it. He's going there to convince these people to also make poor decisions based on faith with no scientific backup or knowledge or anything. And they don't want any of it. They already have. their own brainwashing system.
Starting point is 00:40:10 They don't need, like, somebody to come in there with this book. They probably, the book, man, I mean, have they ever even seen a book? They were probably like, what is that? His shield? What the fuck? What is this thing? But it's unbelievable that he went in there after the fucking metal-tipped arrow went through the Bible, like, and still went.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Like, that's just nuts. That's crazy. I'm not making fun of the guy. I mean, I kind of am, but it's ridiculous. You are. We both are. If you type in North Sentinel Island, on Google, there's one five-star review for the island and nothing else.
Starting point is 00:40:44 What does it say? Oh, that's great. It doesn't. I tried to see if there was any written. There's nothing. It's just a blank five-star review. But somebody's probably going to look at that and be like, you know, that sounds like a nice place. There's a really pretty picture.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's five stars. I mean, let's go. You should go there. You know, after he got killed, so the Indian authorities sort of started heading towards the island to try and, like, either recover the body or investigate it. And ultimately they were just like, now they just were like, it was self-defense. They can't.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Of course. Yeah. Of course. That's the right thing to do. What are they going to do? Like go and ruin this entire island's like uncontacted nation to try and get some of his body back. This is how the crusades started, I heard. Same exact thing.
Starting point is 00:41:30 One guy with a fucking Bible on a canoe. And you saw what happened there. Maybe we could do a Truman show. show type of thing where we just watch North Sentinel Island from from like satellites. We're drones, just get a bunch of drones buzzing around. That'll confuse the hell out of them.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Oh, God. Yeah, maybe it'd be like watching a real housewife type thing. I mean, maybe they're like really sassy and catty with each other. They are. Just like one's big puffed up lips and huge fake tits, like implanted coconuts. It's basically fucking like, it's like
Starting point is 00:42:03 fucking Wakanda over there. It's like this fantasy island. There's like cities. They're getting coconut breast implants and crabs are pinching their lips to puff them up and the fucking the real the real housewives of north sentinel it's like a big thing going on over there pretty soon you're going to have a selling sentinel show a spin off from selling sunset totally very good so there's some um i got some i got backlogged on brosner dms while i was down with the rona um a handful of them were hey hope you get better, hope you're doing well. Peter told us all you have COVID. Nothing in your life is
Starting point is 00:42:42 private. And then... No, this is on the Patreon. No, I appreciate it. And then I got some other pretty interesting ones. My favorite one came from at Mahobi, who said there was a clogged cooling pipe in an Australian steel mill. And I was like, okay, who cares? The reason for it was a 2.7 meter long catfish. Now, this got my attention. I thought this was pretty interesting. Have you guys seen this story yet? No.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Have not. So there's, yeah, there's this clogged pipeline somewhere in Australia, and you just see this giant chain from this industrial plant pulling this massive catfish up out of this industrial area. This giant catfish had just swum into the pipeline and died and totally shut down the steel mill. It was crazy. Here, I pulled it up on Reddit.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Let's take a look here. Yeah, look at this thing. Just this beast of a fish that it swum into a pipeline at the steel mill. Have you ever gone noodling? Never, and I've tried to go twice and not made it. I would love to go. It looks like so much fun. I don't think it looks fun.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Go on. It looks fucking scary. I don't know what it is. What's noodling? Nootling is when you go into the south. And it's specifically in Oklahoma, I think, is the hub of it. That's where we tried to book anyway. And in the springtime, it's like early summer, late spring, early summer, the catfish are holed up, like the big blue catfish are holed up in breeding season.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And they're defending their nests. And so you go in this super muddy water, I mean like zero inches of visibility. And you feel around for holes in the riverbank and you stick your arm in. and if you stick your arm in one with a giant capfish that's pissed off, it bites your arm. And when it bites your arm, you stick your arm in further and grab onto the catfish by the gill plate and pull it out. And you can just use, it's called noodling because you take your arm
Starting point is 00:44:47 and your arms the bait and you stick it in these holes like a noodle. And all of a sudden you just feel this 50-pound thing latch onto your arm and you just grab and pull it out and you pull out these giant capfish that look like that thing we just saw on Reddit. And I mean, I think the first time would be scary. Because there's also snapping turtles, alligator snapping turtles. Some of the areas have alligators, and you're waiting around in this muck water, like sticking your arms in these holes.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I mean, I think the very first one would be scary, but I do want to try it. But, dude, there's like all these pictures online of, like, you know, 14-year-old girls with this, you know, giant catfish latched on their arm and they're smiling, holding up the fish with just their arm covered in their own blood. Yes, that definitely happens. People have lost a hand-noodling and people have drowned because they couldn't free themselves. Like, it doesn't sound good at all. Do catfish have teeth?
Starting point is 00:45:40 They have, like, sandpapery teeth, like a mouth full of, like, little, like a mouthful of, like, little, little sharp, jagged sort of sandpapery type mouth. But they have those stingers, right? Like those stingers on the side there, of their face? Some, oh, the barbels? No, those don't stink. Those are for feeling. They use those. Because they live in such dirty water, those, the whiskers.
Starting point is 00:46:01 also known as barbles, are used to feel around. They're actually dexterous like fingers. I didn't know that. So when they kind of see anything, they can feel around with them. No, it's really cool. They're super fun fish to have in a fish tank because you can watch them like using their chin barbles to touch things and very tactile with them.
Starting point is 00:46:20 It's really cool. Well, and with a catfish, you never have to clean the tank, the dirtier the better for them. They do like it pretty gross. They're very easy. Are they easy to keep for us, I would imagine? because they're... Very, yeah, very, very simple.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Could you put catfish into a koi pond with your koi fish? I have a channel cat in my koi pond. That you caught, that you caught, or that you... Yep, I was up cruising around the Sandinez River, and I found a little pool of water, and there was a school of, like, channel cats about this big in there, little tiny little baby ones, and I scooped up like six of them, threw them all in the pond.
Starting point is 00:46:57 This was like four years ago, and I thought, because I have a bass in that, same pond as well, and I thought the bass just ate them all, because I never saw him again. And then maybe a year ago, I was throwing food in the pond at night. I think I was, like, cleaning fish scraps, because I throw all my, like, fish scraps in there for the turtles and coin and stuff to eat. I was, like, throwing fish scraps in there. And sure enough, this, like, footlong black catfish came up, grabbed a chunk of fish and disappeared. And I was like, at least one of them survived. And, uh, yeah, that's the only time I've ever seen it. I don't know
Starting point is 00:47:26 if it's still in there or not in there, but I'm, I think he's there. What about a new show just called Kauipon Monsters? Like river monsters? We'll do Kui Pond Monsters. Peter, if you, if you ever end up getting married to your current girlfriend, maybe for your bachelor party, we get a nice boat, we go out, we bring a bunch of booze on the boat. You and I sit, drink, get a tan, and for us noodles. Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And that's just your bachelor party. Is that, are you in for that? But we're doing it in Daytona Beach, Florida. So I'm noodling in clear water, and it's actually just groping people that are splashing around in the shallows. It's very different. I'm in. Either way. Spring break of freshman year of college, a bunch of my friends went to Cancun, and I, of course, didn't have money for any of that. But me and my buddy on a whim were like, we got a friend in Miami, one of the guys who lived in our dorm.
Starting point is 00:48:20 So we drove to Miami, had a fucking terrible time. My fake idea got taken the first night at the first bar It sucked We were sleeping in a camper van in our friend's driveway About 40 So it's like 98 degrees out It was horrendous We were like let's get out of here
Starting point is 00:48:39 Let's go to Daytona Beach We'll have a better time there We didn't have a better time there We had a terrible time there It was I mean this was me at 19 with nothing to lose A very reckless person The behavior that I witnessed I've seen more manners
Starting point is 00:48:53 from a pack of hyenas stealing a kill from a lion. It was horrible. I couldn't believe it. Can you elaborate? Nice, Peter. I've never actually been to Daytona Beach. I just know the reputation. Can you elaborate a little bit on that behavior?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Give us a good visual. Paint me a picture. So it's a big beach and you can drive your cars on the beach. So you're basically on this huge, like, wide beach. The sand area is super wide between where it starts in the ocean. And so. It's just everyone with their white pickup trucks driving drunk right past you. So that part of it's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And then basically every 60 feet is an impromptu wet t-shirt contest. So you basically have like women in thongs and just like really drunk frat boys, like just like dumping beer over the women's heads and like tearing their shirts off. And so we were like the beach is scary. Yeah, we got to get off the beach. The peach is scary. Terrifying. So then we attempted to go to a nightclub and had the worst two hours of our life.
Starting point is 00:50:03 It was so bad. We were so happy to just get in the car the next day and drive back to Oswego, New York. That's funny. That happens sometimes. They can all be stellar trips, especially not when you're young. Although typically you have a good time when you do shit like that when you're young. I mean, you guys didn't do any. You know what you see like really drunk people acting poorly, like on the Las Vegas strip?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yes. And you're like, well, whatever. You just kind of walk around them. It's just all of those people together on one beach, drunk driving while they're on the beach. That's like Lake Havasu with boats. I don't know if you've ever been to Lake Havasu. I haven't. Yeah, you're familiar with its reputation.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I drove out there because that's only like a, I don't know, six hour drive from Santa Barbara, maybe 10. I don't remember anymore. We drove out there for a spring break. I think I was a freshman in college. And this is how how bad it was there. As a freshman in college, I was like, oh, this is too trashy for me. And that's really saying something because there was not much that I could. No, I mean, we were there. Semen out of a boot these days. So it's very trash. We were there to have a good time. And I was like, oh, this is a real lowbrow crowd over here. Well, I'll tell you, when I
Starting point is 00:51:21 drove cross country last summer, we drove, whatever road we were taken went right by the, right by Lake Havasu. I probably saw, in a five mile stretch, I probably saw 15 cars towing boats. Yeah. Yep. I will be damned if all 15 boats did not have flames or lightning bolts painted down the side. Exactly. Every single one. Yeah. It's a big barbed wire band tattoo, flame boat kind of, you know, a lot of Hawaiian t-shirts. with bellies that don't fit inside of them kind of vibe. It was a, I mean, we had a really, really good time. But it was just, yeah, you sort of just had to be like, okay, this is who I am this weekend.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Like, I'm going to go to the store. I'm going to get some glue-on tattoos and try and fit in for a few days. Glue on. Well, gentlemen, what do you think? Do we have one picked out? Because I think it's time. We do. Do the thing.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Do you know what time it is? Pat, you sound like you have COVID in that stinger. The Battle Royale. All right, here it is. I like it. All right, here it is. It's from Elliot Miller. It came in through the Patreon.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Nice. Hey, Brocast, Battle Royale idea to pass along to y'all. Used a hard y'all. Rewind all the way back to middle school. It's your class talent show. You have to select an animal that you're bringing in. a talent that the animal you have must... Sorry, a talent that the animal and you must do together
Starting point is 00:53:04 and the name of your act. Hope you all have some fun with this. Love y'all. There's a lot y'alls in there. So it's show and tell day in your middle school. This is submitted by Elliot Miller from the Patreon. It's show and tell day. You got to bring an animal.
Starting point is 00:53:17 You got to do an act with it, and you got to name it. That is the Battle Royale. Unbelievable. I already know exactly what I'm going to do. Why don't you lead then? Because I have given this zero thought. I'm going to start with my animal. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I'm going to tell you why. Because it's in middle school. There's only literally one thing that any middle school boy cares about. And that is, yeah, yeah. But for me, as a straight male, it was just hoping that I could even get a girl to look at me. Yep. Of course. God, let alone maybe, maybe get to first base.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Right. course. So I'm going with a very cute animal that also has a fantastic talent that matches, is in line with one of my talents. Okay. I am picking the fenic fox. Wow. And I'll tell you why later. Okay. Because it's so goddamn cute. All the girls, you know, all the girls are going to be like, oh my God, can I pet the fox? Yep. Yep. It's smart. Very smart. Peter, what do you got? All right. Well, I'm going with a very dexterous, dexterous, I don't know how to say it, animal that will be able to manipulate drumsticks and he will be on drums and he will be well I guess shit I told you my talent first so okay okay so drumming so should I now take chimpanzee
Starting point is 00:54:44 just to take that out of your repertoire to fuck you up or should I leave it we're a duo here he's going to be playing drums with me rapping rapping okay so drumming It comes with me doing some rapping. And to be clear, you thought this would make you popular in middle school. Oh, dude. We crushed this fucking chimpanzee. I mean, this animal. Chamansy?
Starting point is 00:55:07 Are you going to be doing your song that you sent me one night when you were hammered, The Little Things? Oh, interesting. Oh, God. I sent you that. Yeah, I have it. Peter recorded a rap song called The Little Things. Just going to be a beat.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Just a beat. There's no melody. It's going to be like, have you ever seen old videos of like Biggie Smalls or Tupac? That's what it would be like. He's beatboxing, but on a drum set. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 So when I went to middle school, Elvin and the Chipmunks was huge, right? Huge. And although it's not the most exotic creature to pick and bring in, I'm bringing in three well-dressed chipmunks to class. Because that way I can be like, yeah, I mean, you guys are just watching it on TV. I'm living it every day in my life.
Starting point is 00:55:54 you know, one with a little red A shirt, one with a little green, I don't remember their names, but I'm bringing in three chipmunks. Thank you. I'm bringing it three chipmunks. Might not know about animals, no about cartoons. Is the blue chipmunk, is the blue shirted chipmunk going to have a pair of spectacles? Yes, absolutely. I'll have to super glue them to his head, but it'll be worthwhile. So, yeah, so I'm bringing in three chipmunks, and they're all going to, the performance that they're going to do is the fact that they are perfectly clad,
Starting point is 00:56:24 in Alvin and the Chipmunks, drab. You know, they're fully dressed out. One has spectacles. They've got the green, the red, and the blue t-shirts. And I'm just going to let them go in the class and see what happens. So wait, what's their talent? Just being dressed. This is awful, horrible.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Also, this is a talent show where you're on stage. Letting them go in the class does not fit. It's not correct. Well, I can't say that I could choreograph them to sing because that's what Elv. Okay, fine. I'll do the singing and they'll just run around. Can you give us a little taste of what your Elvin and the Chipmunks voice would sound like? I don't even remember what it sounded like.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I have COVID. Beador. Doot. Doot. Is that how it went? I don't even know. I don't think that's how it went. You don't even know.
Starting point is 00:57:15 You haven't. You've not. I just heard of this talent show. It was popular. And I'm on the spot here and I'm bringing in three chipmunk. It's fine. I'm not lost. I've still got one.
Starting point is 00:57:23 So drumming and wrap. What's your animal and what's your what's your animal or name? Peter. That's for me, right? He has no idea. He doesn't know what fucking planet he's on right now. What are you talking about? Relax over there.
Starting point is 00:57:37 You look like you're in jail with your fucking babushka on your head. Nice striped shirt. Fuck. All right. So my animal is going to be a chimpanzee. A chimpanzee that plays drums. Nice heavy drumsticks. Beautiful, beautiful pearl.
Starting point is 00:57:54 drum set with me on the voice box. Sounds good. It's good. When I was a kid, every year for Christmas, I would get a new copy of the Guinness Book of World Records, and I would read that shit. I thought it was fascinating. I loved all the strange records.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And I, one of my goals was to be in there. And I had decided that an attainable record that I could set was the record for most baked beans eaten one by one with a toothpick in 10 minutes. Okay. And so I practice this, and I have some skill. I'm good at stabbing. I'm good at eating quickly without blasting myself in the tongue with the toothpick. So Phenic foxes eat, they eat like little mealworms. I got to feed some once. And so I'm going to modify it, and we are going to on stage, myself and the fox, are going to break the speed eating record for mealworms,
Starting point is 00:58:53 eaten one by one with a toothpick in 10 minutes. Very, very elaborate. This is definitely going to get you some, get you laid for sure. Wait until you hear the name of the act, because that's really going to, right? So now I've presented this cute fox. I've just been given a blue ribbon medal
Starting point is 00:59:11 for setting a world record live on stage. But now I've got to kind of get rid of my like, nice guy, awshucks kind of thing that I had going on because I was like a shy kid in middle school. So the name of the act is, going to be the Fenwick Fox Fuck Boys. Wow. FFF, okay. When you come on
Starting point is 00:59:29 to stage, will you be announced like that? The Fennick Fox Fuck Boys. No, yeah. I'm going to scream it into the mic and then what got you more street credit in middle school than getting suspended? No, that's the like badass boy shit that's going to get you a lot of attention. Yeah, especially after you know
Starting point is 00:59:51 those mealworms with a toothache. You're nice and And then you drop, Fennickfucks, fuck boys. You get suspended. Like, that's huge. That's big. I don't even want to compete any longer. Well, yeah, you're already out. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:04 All right. What's the name of your chimpanzee rapping acts? You're going to dress up chipmunks and let them loose in the class? I'm doing an elven. I'm doing an elven in the chipmunks thing. Just you do yours, you know, you wrap, go on, I'm ripping off something here. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So I got a chimpanzee, just amazing. Just going wild out back. there. Maybe he's doing a little, uh, while I'm rapping with me in key, in tune. Uh, and our act is going to be called
Starting point is 01:00:32 chimp hop. That's right. Like hip hop, but chimp hop. That's right. I mean, I've won this one. It's, it's not even a question. What's he doing? Yours are both better than, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:42 than, uh, forest and the monk chips, which is, I didn't name of it. The forest and the monk chips. That's the name of our act. Um, I will be dressed up. in a big
Starting point is 01:00:54 He might have saved it with that name. By the way, the fucking drama teacher is going to be like, did anyone see Forrest? He was supposed to be on stage in 30 seconds. So like, yeah, he didn't understand what a talent show is. He's in the classroom chasing Roden surround. All the students are here in the assembly room. And there's nobody in there.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I don't know what he's doing. Oh, that's pretty good. Listen, drop us a vote. Let us know if Pat, who would win in the talent show? Is it Patrick with the Fennick Fox Fuck Boys as they eat the most mealworms in 10 minutes using a toothpick? Is it Peter and the chip hop, chimp hop? Chimp hop, am I saying that right? Chimpop, which is drumming chimpanzee while he wraps, or is it Forrest and the monk chips three scabbly clothed chipmunks running around in pure chaos while I attempt to sing?
Starting point is 01:01:46 You let us know. That's great. It's fucking, you might have won just because it's the dumbest thing you've ever done. It's really stupid. Good job, buddy. That's right. You got COVID. Yeah. He's got frog brain from the COVID, the long COVID.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Dude, do the thing. Retef, tell people where to go, what to do, do the thing. All right. Thewildtimespodcast.com forward slash info for all the links to all the places where you can listen to and or watch the podcast. That includes the Patreon. But if you want to get directly to the Patreon, patreon. Patreon.com forward slash wild times pod. Wild Times pod on all the socials.
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Starting point is 01:02:44 Big, big, big announcements. Big announcements coming too. I wouldn't spill the beans yet. We got to get a few eyes dotted and tees crossed. But yeah, there's some good stuff coming for sure. All right. Thanks, everybody. We love you.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Good night. Oh, he didn't steal my thing. Gotta get your body into it. Oh, yeah.

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