Wild Times: Wildlife Education - TWT #88 – THYLACINE IN PAPUA NEW GUINEA?, CANNIBAL TRIBES & PARTY TOWNS
Episode Date: January 17, 2022Forrest Galante & The Wild Times crew are back talking about the possibilities of the Tasmanian Tiger, Thylacine, being alive in Papua New Guinea. It's a remote island with cannibal tribes. We love yo...u! Patreon @ https://patreon.com/wildtimespod All the links @ https://thewildtimespodcast.com/links
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And I sound great.
Episode 88 of the Wild Times podcast,
the COVID-Diest podcast on the air.
How are you guys?
I'm great.
I'm fucking way better than you, man.
No, I'm good.
That was very unfortunate timing.
I do, however, have the Rona.
So I think the brosters are aware of this if you're tuning in for the first time.
I am your host, Forrest Galante.
I am a walking biohazard because I have COVID.
Patrick Duluca has also had COVID, was unaffected, is obviously a much stronger person than I am.
And Peter is a super spreader because he has no symptoms whatsoever, but probably has had it for two and a half years.
Yeah, from day one, baby.
I've had every variant, variant.
Very aunt
You know, Forrest, I feel like you were
Very
You just don't worry about this shit, right?
You were one of the people
Who made me feel okay about not taking
You know, I don't take anti-malarial
You're like, ah, you know, I just don't want to take extra shit
You took the vaccine as soon as it was available to you
I did
But you were, you just lived your life
Pretty much the whole time
Like even during this big scary lockdown,
and I feel like you're like, I got to live my life.
Yeah.
I don't believe in living in fear.
And by the way, I don't think this is what everybody should do because then the virus would probably be worse.
But, you know, I wouldn't say that I did everything normally because I wasn't, you know, going to house parties and going to bars and things like that.
But I wasn't willing to lock myself in my house and be a complete shut in and, you know, be terrified of the pandemic.
Yeah.
You know, I remember saying this and it's kind of funny.
Do you guys remember when COVID started?
There was like that whole like lockdown and everybody stay indoors.
And I was on here going, don't stay indoors.
Go for a hike.
Like go swimming.
Go to the beach.
And then for a little while immediately after we said that, there was like, don't go outside
even.
Like you're a bad, irresponsible person if you do that.
And I was like, well, I just shot myself in the foot because I just said everybody should do that.
But I sort of stand by that, which was I just, I can't imagine in any scenario, regardless
of the situation, living.
living a life in fear of something. So yeah, just get on with living my life.
Well, yeah.
Not at age 30, 32, you know? Like, maybe if you're 80 and you're like, I want to watch my
grandkids grow up, I'll just. Of course, of course. And it'll, you know, I don't have any
preexisting conditions. I'm healthy overall, you know, there's, there's variables. But my
variables are just get on with your life, you know. Like live your life. You get sick. It's not like
you didn't do anything. I mean, you got the vaccine. You stayed away from, I mean, you typically
stay away from people anyways
because you're out, or like you just with your
tight circle mushroom hunting or
going somewhere, whatever.
Like it's not, you know, you just
and you did, you excluded the bars
and the fucking house parties, man,
which is where everything basically
spread, which was like, exactly.
So.
So let me ask you this
for us just because, you know, a lot of people
like hearing other people's stories,
especially because probably 80% of people
listening right now also have COVID.
Exactly. What made you get tested?
Did you just like come down with something?
So I, my guy that I work out with at the gym every day texted me and he's like,
hey, bro, sorry, but I just tested positive for COVID.
I'm feeling a little bad.
And I was like, oh, that sucks.
So I stopped going to the gym, felt absolutely fine, skipped like a whole week of going to the gym.
Because I was like, yeah, you know, I don't know who else has it, whatever, whatever.
And then I did, I started to have a bit of a headache and a little bit of an itchy throat.
So he told me he had COVID on Monday.
and I started to have a headache and itchy throat on like Friday.
And I was like, okay, well, you know, whatever.
I probably have it.
I ordered some COVID tests.
But, and I started taking them and I've been taking them regularly, blah, blah, blah,
you know, to see, do I still have it?
Can I go back out in public?
Blah, blah, blah.
But I forced myself to go and jump in the ocean without a wetsuit every day during COVID.
In the Pacific, right?
The Pacific Ocean, which is very, very cold.
Yep.
Yeah.
this time of year. It's January.
But I...
Now, why did you do that?
Just...
Whenever I was...
I haven't had a cold in years,
but whenever I used to get colds and stuff,
like in college,
I'd always go dive in the ocean.
I swear,
something about that, like,
shock of the cold water,
felt like it, like,
woke up my immune system,
like it kicked it into overdrive.
It's probably absolute nonsense
and probably contrary
in scientific backing.
But that's how I felt.
It does have scientific backing.
Well, I don't know.
I'm guessing on all of this,
but I was just,
It does.
If I go and, like, shock myself, it, like, kicks the system into overdrive.
And so it's been years since I've had a cold or anything like that.
But I was like, you know what?
I'm going to do what I used to do.
It's going to go jump in the ocean for a second and sort of shock the system.
Did it every day, you know, felt – I never felt terrible.
I felt bad.
And I sounded really bad for a few days.
Yeah.
But never felt terrible.
Good.
All right.
All right.
Happy you're alive.
Happy everything's good.
Yeah, it was nice to see.
see the text this morning that you're ready to pod.
Your voice was working again.
I want to talk.
I want to have a little bit of a theme to this podcast.
We'll do the news.
We'll do the battle royale.
But I, with all of this sort of thylacine stuff that's been out there, us and Neil
Waters, we had cookie on.
And it seems like the viewers really like all this stuff.
I want to kind of do like, not definitive, because I didn't tell you about this and
you're not prepared.
Correct.
I want to talk thylacine for a little bit.
Sure.
All right.
I assume that's the noise of thylacine made.
Is that right?
Accurate?
Do you have new audio bites?
Is this going to be a thing, a whole podcast?
Maybe they sounded like a hyenas.
He does.
He has new audio bites.
No, they hiss.
They hissed the thylacine, didn't they?
Right.
Yep.
That's what they...
Okay, so I was reading an article
because, you know, you had talked about the Papua New Guinea theory,
and so I just wanted to, like, read about it as, you know, up.
Sure.
drinking alone last night. So I came across this article about sort of this island that's,
I think, on the Indonesia side of the Wallace line called Orion Jaya. And this is this really
unexplored island where, you know, they had fossil evidence or, no, they found a jawbone
to show that the thylosine had once lived there. But there is this cool thing where there, you know,
there are some
there are some native
villages there where they
talk about this sort of
canine type creature with a giant
mouth, which I didn't know.
Like there's a little bit of the sort of local
lore kind of thing.
Was this one of the sort of reasons that
you had originally thought if we
got a third season of Extincter Alive that maybe
we'd go to either New Guinea or
Orion Jaya?
Yes and no.
So
at one point in time, thylacine, and we know this, and there are multiple subspecies of
thylacine, by the way, the largest one, which name I'm blanking on right now, but it's like
thylacina, the, fuck, I can't remember the Latin name because I'm on the spot, but there are
multiple subspecies of thylacine, right? The largest one ranged in Papua New Guinea. But
regardless, at one point in time, thylacine range from New Guinea, not just popper,
New Guinea, but New Guinea is, you know, it's two countries put together. It's West Papua and
Papua New Guinea, the Indonesian side and Papua New Guinea. Australia and Tasmania all the way down,
and that's a huge geographical area. I think a lot of people don't realize how big just Australia
is, and now you're adding in two other countries. It's funny because if you look on a map,
especially of Papua New Guinea, if you pull this up, anybody that's listening to this, and just
look at the roads in Papua New Guinea. There's like three in the whole country. And if you look in West
Papua, there's like zero. Like the whole center of the country doesn't have a road.
Anyway, the reason that it's so fascinating is what happened was their thylacine all the way down,
you know, PNG, Australia, Tasmania. Then humans came over around 4,000 years ago. And with them,
when they settled these regions, they brought with them from, you know, Asia side. They brought
with them dogs, dingoes. And so a lot of people don't know this, but dingoes are actually not a native
animal to Australia, right? This is an animal that was introduced by people about 4,000 years ago.
And the dingoes primarily out-competed the thylacine. Now, the reason that, yeah, look at that.
So, zoom in. Sorry, if you're listening on audio and not watching on YouTube, we're looking at a
map of PNG, that is the only, those are the only roads in the country, right? And if you think about
the size of the country. Now, zoom out, Peter, and go over to West Papua, just scroll left.
And you'll see there's, there's none. Like, there's, that's it in PNG.
and West Papua has nothing.
It's wild.
And there's villages all throughout it.
And we'll circle back.
I'm going a very long-winded way
of answering Patrick's question.
Oh, it's cool.
It's interesting.
This shit.
So there are Thalasian all the way.
People came over from Indonesia side,
from the Asian side 4,000 years ago,
brought with them dogs,
hunting dogs, which were basically dingoes.
They got out, they roamed around.
And the dingoes, as traditional mammals
and not marsupial carnivores,
were better predators than thylacine.
So they out-competed them.
in most of their range.
Now, that works for a couple of reasons
and doesn't work for a couple of reasons
with regards to the thylacine theory.
Dingoes are like a plains animal.
They like open-spacy areas.
They're not a heavy jungle area.
Well, most of Papua New Guinea is a heavy jungle area, right?
And different species, as I said,
of thylacine would be affected differently by dingoes,
the largest of which, and I'll figure out the name of it.
Yeah, there were seven subspecies.
one that was as small as a house cat
and then up to the biggest one, which is like
this size of a dog. Thank you. Yeah, you, yeah.
I don't know. I don't have the name of it, though.
Yeah, and I can't... But I also, once you're done with this,
I have an amazing bombshell for you.
Okay. I just discovered, but go ahead.
I saw him smirking, and I was like, he just smirking
too, and I'm curious, yeah.
I'm just going to say that we are mentioned
in a new book about thylacine.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Silasinusin is potens was the largest one.
P-O-T-N-S.
And somewhere,
see if I could find it.
Here's a pretty good graphic if you're looking for like the different sizes compared to human beings.
Oh, yeah.
That big one is stout too.
Exactly.
It's like a big pit bull.
Exactly.
And potennis was the one that was in Papua New Guinea.
So it was the largest.
So it had the best chance of competing with dingoes.
While there are dingoes and singing dogs and things like that in Papua New Guinea,
they prefer different habitat to what thylacine prefer traditionally.
Now, that sort of leads to the idea that,
thylacine could still be living
if unaffected by dingo in certain region
and different species and so on and so forth.
So that's a very broad strokes way of looking at it.
That also very definitively explains
why thylacine existed in Tasmania
up until very recently
where they were driven to extinction
in mainland Australia 4,000 years ago
because dingo's gotten to Australia
and dingoes were never introduced into Tasmania
which is what allowed thylacine to continue down there.
So they are a delicate animal
and as long as,
they were geographically isolated from people,
geographically isolated from dingoes,
whether that's in Papua, New Guinea,
West Papua, Australia, parts of Tasmania,
they could continue to exist.
Yeah.
That's, yeah.
Go ahead.
I want one as a pet.
Everybody does.
I mean, look how cute this is.
This is the cutest feline that I've ever seen.
I love when they curl up.
Nope.
Nope.
Not feline.
That's true.
It's not.
But it's hideous.
It's hideous.
But it's curled into a little bagel ball.
and I love when animals do this little curl thing
and it always just gets me right in the sub-cockles of my heart.
Well, this Orion Jaya place, as Forrest mentioned,
it's a place that it did historically live.
This place is pretty unexplored.
It's on the Wallace line,
which is basically a way of saying
it's awfully fucking dangerous to go in there.
And, you know, the last expedition that went in there,
They found four new species of mammal, right?
So it is truly quite unexplored.
But here's what I just got super excited about.
So a study was published in 2021 by an Australian professor
and also the chair of environmental sustainability
at the University of Tasmania.
What's his name?
What's a professor's name?
Barry William Brooke published a study in 2021
in which he doesn't purport.
that it's still around, he basically purports that it probably went extinct much later.
Yeah.
Yes, I know the study.
I remember that.
Yeah.
I think I referenced it in one of the shows, actually.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he's saying, more likely between the late 90s and early 2000s.
Yep.
And then it goes on to talk about, you know, the reason behind this was the lack of, the lack
of confirmed sightings during that time was there just wasn't a wide deployment of trail cameras
yet. And one of the
things he references is that
trail cameras were recently
used to confirm the presence of
these Zanzibar Leopard. Oh, very cool.
Very, very cool. Yeah, that's awesome.
I mean,
no, come on, that's fantastic.
It's a real study by a real guy
at a real university. That's really fucking cool.
I love it. No, it's fantastic.
And so, it's interesting. There's
this guy that reached out to me recently.
He's an Australian filmmaker,
and I've been communicating with him back and
So as you can imagine, I get a lot of people sending me fucking weirdo stuff, right?
Like, the big one is you're an idiot.
There are Black Panthers.
My Pappy saw one.
And I get those a lot.
Secondly, I get a lot of, like, thylacine sighting nonsense.
But this guy reached out to me, youngish guy.
He's an Australian filmmaker.
He lives in Sydney.
And he's worked in Papua New Guinea extensively.
And his parents are from PNG, or at least one of his parents.
And he told an interesting story about how while he was working in PNG, he gave these pilots a bunch of photos of different animals.
And one of the animals was the New Guinea singing dog, the Highland Singing Dog.
One of them was a tree kangaroo.
One of them was a thylacine.
And he gave these pilots these different things.
And this one pilot came back from this region that is in Irian Gaya in West Papua, in the central valley near this big mountain.
I could point out on a map, I can't pronounce any of the names.
And he says, so there's two people, like, there's two groups of foreigners that go into this valley.
One is this Indonesian trekking company that's like, it's this incredibly expensive thing.
It's fly-in only, and you fly in, you land, you trek up the tallest mountain in West Papua.
And, you know, it's like only a handful of people do it and blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's like incredibly expensive.
Nobody in the Indonesian fixer side, the trekking company side,
speaks any English. And then the pilot was the other guy. So he gives them all these photos.
And independently of each other, both the pilot and the Indonesian trekking company,
the pilot reports that, hey, when I've flown into this area where this mountain is, where
occasionally tourists go to, the locals have reported seeing not this one, like no to the singing
dog, which is known in the country, by the way, but wrong altitude, wrong elevation. And no,
they haven't seen this tree kangaroo, but yes, they all know this.
the thylacine. Now independently
of that, this guy was telling
me how the Indonesian trekking
company that he emailed all these photos to
go, hey, if you do a trek with us,
no way you'll see these singing dogs.
We've never seen them. You might see
tree kangaroo in the lowland, but it's a different
species. And yeah, about
three times, we, as tourists
from Indonesia, have seen
this and pointed to the thylosine
picture. So two different reports
from two independent sources
that happen to have gone into the same very remote location in central West Papua
have told this guy that I'm been communicating with,
this Australian filmmaker,
that they believe that the thylacine is in this area.
Now, to add to that, which is pretty fascinating,
and this is the thing that got me really talking to this guy,
he sent me tons of information, pictures, and satellite images
and all kinds of stuff, and he's not like a quack.
He's, like, really, really fascinated by it.
Yeah, it sounds awesome.
He showed me the geographical area.
Now, when you look at it, in fact, Peter, go ahead, pull up that West Papua map again one more time, if you don't mind.
Sure. One second. He showed me this area, and he pointed out this mountain, and I can't remember I can dig through my email and find all the answers to all of this.
But if you look at Erie and Jai, if you look at West Papua specifically, not the PNG side, the central valley of the entire country is geographically isolated by these mountains basically on all sides.
and as we just saw, there are pretty much no roads.
So you have this whole area that is impenetrable to dingoes
because it's so, yeah, so zoom in there, Peter.
And you can kind of see, yeah, zoom in a little bit more.
Stay, yeah, that's good right there.
And then switch over to layers to your satellite imagery.
Sorry, just go terrain.
That's fine.
Look dead in center of the screen right now.
There you go, right there.
See where the river is?
Look at how there's a giant valley in the center.
Yep, your cursor's over it right now.
Yeah, that's cool.
There's a giant valley in the center of West Papua.
There are zero roads.
There are basically no towns.
There's one village up the one tributary of the river.
And it's fully geographically surrounded by impenetrable mountains that nobody can get to.
That big mountain that I was referring to, you see it there with the little green mountain symbol.
That's the mountain that occasionally, occasionally people will fly in.
and trek up that mountain.
But it's like super expensive, you know, rich people on expedition kind of thing,
private helicopters, blah, blah, blah.
But look at this whole central valley, which is good thylacine habitat,
completely cut off from the rest of the world by truly impenetrable mountains
because the mountains in Papua and West Papua are unbelievable.
I mean, not even the local hunting parties are like capable of traversing them.
I mean, they're like the animites.
They're just like they're unpassable.
And so, yeah, you just.
have this whole giant valley sitting in the center of this island, completely biologically
unexplored, completely unpenetrated, nobody living there, only the odd hunting party and
trekking company going in there, and no, as far as I know, like, no legitimate biological
surveys or studies, and absolutely, definitely not any large-scale camera trap surveys.
Right.
I mean, think about the amount of money it would take to go in there.
You basically are going to have to go over, I would think, go over.
on a ship that has a chopper on board.
Yeah.
You know, would be the only reasonable way.
Right, and then you need a chopper to get you in there.
Keep in mind, this is in the heart of West Papua, which is, I think it's IAida, but cannibal territory.
And this is not like a fallacy, like, nonsense, like TV thing.
This is where cannibals still live and actively hunt each other and eat each other.
This whole valley that's impenetrable, not only is it not unreasonable to think that thylosine could be there,
although it is a long shot,
it's not unreasonable to think
that there could be
eight other species of megafauna there.
I mean, think about the Sala, right?
Discovered in the 90s,
an animal the size of a cow
in Vietnam.
Like, Vietnam has a gazillion people everywhere.
Like, you know, like everywhere.
Like, even up in the animites and stuff,
you have these pretty big towns.
Like, they're really not little villages.
They're, like, bordering on the word city.
And it wasn't until 95 that we discovered
the Sala existed.
And that's an animal the size of,
of a cow running around, you know.
Granted, that's like a special case, but the place that a large megafauna still exists
that we don't know about, whether it's thylacine, whether it's thylacolia, whether it's something
completely undescribed, is that area we just looked at on a map, for sure.
It's pretty amazing.
I was looking at some, you know, because I, of course, being a TV producer, you got to look
at everything.
And so I did a lot of research on the, I've been a butcher the name, Corowai.
Carl I think is the...
Carly.
It's funny, you know,
there's an Italian photojournalist
who went in there in 2019
and got amazing photos.
The stilted ones, right?
Where he stayed in the canopy with them
and yeah, they're all covered in the white paint.
I know the article.
I wrote a pitch on that shit
on basically reliving that and never went anywhere.
Amazing photos.
And he, you know,
got into the whole Kakuo ritual.
where that is what leads to the cannibalism.
It's when someone gets sick
and they think there's a demon inside them.
Right.
And then as you're researching it, you'll find, like,
I found like 10 anthropologists who had never been there
who had written articles being like,
no, they don't still do that.
Oh, dude.
So where is this going?
Is this going on YouTube or is this going on the Patreon?
Because I need to watch my words.
YouTube?
Watch your words.
I will still watch my words.
But I'll tell you guys a story.
story. So exactly to what Patrick just said, and I don't mean to get on like a big...
By the way, the unedited version of this story will go on the Patreon.
Yes, I'm happy to you. So after this podcast, we will have you tell the full Patreon version.
Okay, you got it. That's fine. So the four public appearance version is...
I know the exact article you're talking about. I know about the tribe and how they eat their...
As you said, so they eat their sick or they're dying as a means to basically curb an evil spirit
before it spread on to others, right?
And there was a whole omen, and there's, like, a lot to it.
But, um, so I wrote, I wrote this up, right?
And I pitched it to, as did every other production company in L.A.
I'm sure.
And I wrote it up and you probably did the same thing.
And I pitched it, right?
And I pitched it with me as the host, which I thought made sense because I'm an adventure
guy, blah, blah, blah.
And I pitched it.
And I won't say who, but who I pitched it to really liked it, right?
And they were like, oh, this was awesome.
Like, I had no way.
we have never, you know, at that time, they're like, nobody has pitched this with like the right
angle and the right person to go in and do it. And I was like, great. Like, I've always, as everybody
that listens to this podcast knows, PNG's number one of my bucket list and Papua, the whole thing.
Yeah. And so I pitched it. And then like weeks go by, three weeks, whatever. I'm edge of my
seat waiting every day to hear that like I got the green light to develop a special to go and, you know,
hang out with cannibals in the middle of West Papua. And, uh, and finally that I get a call
on the book scheduled with said person and said network. And who hops on the call, this person,
and about three pimple-faced teenagers, right? And they weren't teenagers. They're probably in their
early 20s. And the person that I have my Zoom with introduces me and says, this is, you know,
our research team. And unfortunately, we kind of continue with the show. And I'm like,
why is that? Like, you told me you loved it. Like you asked me for a budget, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. And they're like, oh, well, our research team here has dug up evidence to say that
cannibals aren't actually real in today's world. And I'm looking at these three 19-year-old, you know,
research team, like fresh out of college, you know, that are just literally sitting on Google
while smoking a vape. And they're the one saying, they're the ones saying that cannibals aren't
real for that mega corporation network. And I'm sitting here going,
they've never been there. I don't know what they're reading, but they don't know what they're
talking about.
Like, you know, who are these people to dictate what is or isn't real when we could go in
there and do a show?
And if it's not real, we'll say it's not real when we get back.
But, like, this is a published thing that the Karowai tribe do this.
And it's very well known in the anthropological world.
And yet here are three pimple-faced teenagers saying that cannibalism is gone.
It's not real.
It's so crazy because a big production company that I was doing some.
work with had a paid development probably for a different network about the same thing.
Okay.
And they made a beautiful deck and a whole well-researched thing and a production plan and how
are we going to get the, you know, all the stuff.
Yep.
And they had this, it may have been the same network actually because they had the same thing
happened.
No way.
They were like, yeah, the research team.
I, dude, I had one of my biggest developments that I ever did.
I don't want to get too sidetracked.
No, it's interesting.
But it was a team of hackers, a big streaming network.
one of the biggest scripted producers in the sort of crime mystery space was working with him on it.
And massive development had basically the talent was this group of hackers that is like one of the biggest group of like white hat, sort of gray hat, good guy hackers.
That's rad.
All of this stuff.
And ultimately at the 11th hour, the streaming network said that the.
that their internal
like, you know, computer guys
said that there's no criminals
doing anything on the dark web anymore.
Oh, come on.
I swear to God,
killed 12 weeks of a full team of people
working on it because
some computer guy at the thing was like,
no, there's no crime on the dark web anymore.
The hilarious part is...
I can personally...
Oh, Peter, yeah, why don't you talk to this?
Because I have a friend, friend of the pod,
actually, and I won't name him, who I have seen
order drugs off of the
dark web. I literally sat and watched him
do it. And this was like two years
ago. This was not a long time ago.
There's a literal, first of all,
there's a literal cryptocurrency
that was built called Manero
that's based, it's
based around privacy so that you can
buy drugs and other
things on the dark web without being
tracked. That's why the currency,
you know, privacy, whatever, but that's what
everybody uses it for. And also,
There's, I mean, these guys are morons.
There's a subreddit called Darknet Market Busts.
D-NB busts where they talk about, it's just posts of all these ridiculous busts that go on,
of people getting busts with like 200 pounds of fentanyl they were shipping out,
all these pressed Xanax bars.
It is flourishing.
I got a question for you.
I got a question for you.
That sucks, Patrick.
And sometimes I just wonder, I want to just.
I want to just rip my hair out because I'm like,
who are you listening to and why?
And why do you not trust the people whose job are to give you the correct information?
And the people who are willing to go there and make an earnest documentary where it's just as satisfying of an ending to say this is something they used to do, they don't do it anymore.
Correct.
It's still about the adventure, right?
You're going to get malaria.
You're going to fucking trek through amazing jungle habitat.
You're going to eat bugs.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway.
Well, is there any chance?
Oh, yeah. Go ahead.
No, I just wanted to ask you this.
So I don't know what the dark web is.
If I went to Google and typed in dark web, do I get there?
How do you get to a dark web?
No.
Okay.
It doesn't really matter.
We don't need a step by step.
The question is this.
I thought how you ask a question.
No.
Okay.
I got you.
No, I'm still getting to my question.
It's a question and it's a pitch to Patrick at the same time.
Why don't we take world-renowned wildlife biologist Forrest Galante,
team him up with the group of badass hacks.
white hat hackers that you just mentioned, get RETEP as a consultant, and bust people,
and here comes my question, if this is happening, Peter, are wildlife trafficking is the third
largest industry in the world, illegal industry in the world. Is wildlife trafficking happening
on the dark web? And if so, how do we, how do we, how do we go in there and bust it up and
ruin it? That's a, that's a very interesting question that I unfortunately don't know the
answer to, but if it was going on, it would definitely be happening there because it's set up so that
you can do things of this nature and communicate and it's all encrypted and goes through all
your identities obfuscated. So it's got to be happening, right? People got to be selling tigers and
cobras and all this kind of shit on the dark web because you're not listing it on Craigslist,
you know, and there's there's definitely a huge market for it. I mean, it's,
got to be happening on the dark web wildlife trafficking we need those we need those people-faced
researchers to get on this and see if it's happening they don't know a couple a couple years ago
just going back to the cannibal thing i was i did a show for national geographic that was called the
atlas of cursed places it was actually a really good show i remember that i'm proud of it's a cool
show but one of the episodes we did was in romania and uh i had when i was researching romania
and just cool shit to film there,
I had found a piece that was done for like Vice Romania.
It was like a 12-minute short film
that a filmmaker in Romania had made
where he went to this little village in a remote part of Romania
and found this guy who was the last vampire hunter of Romania, right?
And purported to be this thing where they have a legend in the village of the village,
the village, which we went to, they had a legend of this thing called a moroy, right?
And it's their version of a vampire.
But basically, when a relative dies and then someone in the family gets sick shortly thereafter,
it is the relative has turned into a moroy who's been buried.
So their kind of, their spirit is kind of coming back from the dead and infecting the relative.
And so what this guy, as the vampire hunter of the village, he goes to the graveyard, digs up the body, takes the heart, brings it back, turns the heart into a milkshake, the person who's sick drinks it, and gets better.
Narnly.
So I saw this thing and I was like, I got in touch with the filmmaker because I wanted to do it for our TV show because nobody saw this piece on Vice Romania.
I was like, this would be fucking awesome.
So basically he's like, no, they don't have phones.
The way you do it is you drive down there seven hours and you go to the village and knock on his door, I can come with you because he trusts me a little bit.
He's like, but that's the only way to get a hold of him.
So now we have a decision to make on a TV production schedule.
Do we get into cars drive seven hours with the potential?
He's not there, you know, or he's, you know, whatever.
So we did the whole thing.
We went. It was awesome. It's all covered
on the Romania episode.
This guy's name was Mercia Mitrika.
And we went,
he didn't want to talk to us in the village
because he didn't want any attention. So we went to
his goat fold where he keeps his goats
about 10 miles outside of time.
No, they're just
regular votes. That's just what he does for his job.
He just raises goats and eats them.
And we went
and fucking talk to this guy.
He obviously didn't speak English, but through a
translator. And he, I mean,
I mean, his story's unfucking believable.
When he was 16, he became anointed the vampire hunter of the town because he was so brave.
And they still do it.
They still, as of two years ago, when someone gets sick shortly after a relative dies, this is what they do.
And it's just their custom, and it's fucking awesome.
And it couldn't have been a more pleasant guy to talk to either.
Yeah.
Can I suggest that we anoint Forrest, the vampire hunter of, uh,
Southern California.
The greater Santa Barbara area.
He's the bravest guy I know in Southern California.
That's too bad because I think it would be such a rad show.
First of all, that's a scary proposition, right?
Like, if you had sold that show and you said, hey, Patrick, can you come out in the field with me?
We're going to have an adventure.
This one feels, I don't know if I would do it.
I would have soft pitched it to you, though.
I wouldn't have been like, hey, Patrick, we're going to.
the middle. I would have done like a typical forest Galante like, look, Pat, like, dude,
it would be awesome if you came with. We're going to go to this place, beautiful tropical
coconuts. I mean, we would drink so many coconuts. I'll bring a bottle of rum. I'll get you
super fired up. And then you'll be like, okay, well, where are we going? I'll be, you know,
it's like, it's like Indonesia-ish. Like, it's in that region. You know, your heads, yeah, your head's
going to bikinis and white sand beaches. And I just slowly leak out the fact that we're going to
the heart of cannibal country, you know, over a few weeks and then see how you respond.
But, uh, Pat's very, his meat looks very, uh, thin and grimy. I don't think they'd want to eat him.
No, he's too lean. He's too lean. He would not be tender at all. No, he'd be,
the cari, they're treehouses. Pull it up if you can, Peter, while we're talking here. The Karawai treehouses,
they're fucking incredible, man. They have tree houses that are like a hundred foot up a tree.
Yeah. And they're no.
So they only live in those for a part of the season, and then they abandon them and go and build other ones somewhere else. I mean, it's amazing. I can't remember it all because it was years ago that I did all the research and the deck and everything. But no, they're absolutely fascinating the houses they live in. I just want to double down on something, too. This Italian photojournalist who went in there, the tribe had not seen a white person in 45 years.
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
He goes in in 2019,
witnesses all this, writes about it,
photographs it, and then some dorks
at a network are like, nah, that's not true?
Exactly. That's exactly what happened.
To both me and you, it sounds like.
Wait, so what happened?
Wasn't there a story recently
where a guy got basically killed
for doing this?
With the tribe of cannibals, did you guys hear about that?
Yes, not cannibals.
They weren't cannibals.
Yeah.
So there's an island off
Singapore? I want to say Singapore. You can look it up. If you Google
like missionary killed by tribe or something like that in Asia, it'll come
right up. And it's this island. I'm blanking on the name of it. I want to say
it's off the coast of Singapore. It's called the people, the tribe he tried to
contact. It's called North Sentinel Island. It's part of India. It's part of India. It's
part of India, but if you look, it's not like India adjacent. It's like in the middle of
nowhere. But anyway, yeah, it's North Sentinel Island. It's North Carolina. It's
North Sentinel Island and a missionary tried to go in there to spread the word of God. And it was,
it's been, you know, like the India, who I believe owns it, as Patrick said, is like nobody can go
there. Like these people do not, they want to be left alone. They want to live their way. They're
completely uncontacted. And this missionary decided to like charter a boat and take the people that,
I remember the story, the people that he chartered the boat from were like, we will not take you
there will take you to like outside of arrow reach of the island and then he like had to row in on
a canoe or a kayak or a dinghy or something stepped foot on the island and just like 40 arrows
came flying out of the bushes at him and uh that was the end of him so you know my god the lesson there
is maybe don't and it's funny because you think of it from both sides he thought like i'm gonna go
there and save these people from eternal damnation right which i'm against by the way like i don't
think that's a good thing to be doing is like trying to brainwash people into your religion.
But that's what he thought, right?
He thought he was trying to spread the word of God and do something good for them.
They're like, fuck off.
Like, leave us alone.
They literally, yeah, they don't want your bullshit.
Yeah, it's like, it's like fucking medieval times.
Dude, arrows are the first defense.
You just fucking step on this island and you got 40 arrows coming at you.
Sounds fucking terrifying.
I don't blame them.
I say good for, good for the people.
of North Sentinel Island for being like, we don't want to be part of the rest of the world.
Like, we want to stay on our island.
We got things pretty good over here.
Like, do not come here.
And I love that.
I think it's awesome.
It is.
And they're right.
It's a fascinating story.
Jeez.
Yeah.
And it's, they're right because, like, they don't even know about COVID.
First of all.
They don't have the news.
They're not watching TV.
Their brains aren't rotting.
Dude, I was at the gym.
I'm at the gym.
And there's a thousand fucking TVs in front of me.
And, like, it's,
Like it's Fox News, Friends, CNN, some stupid TLC show.
Like, and I'm just like, I cannot look at these televisions.
I just look straightforward because it's just like a disease of,
of fucking, you know, so-called entertainment.
Like the news headlines are absurd.
It's just like coronavirus.
Millions killed like and then like CNN or Fox said something like just Biden,
sucking dicks all day.
in the Oval Office.
It's just like mental, dude.
Also, also like, so this guy, John, John Allen Chow, who, you know, he had believed,
he wrote a bunch of the stuff in letters.
He thought this island was Satan's last stronghold on Earth.
I'm not making fun.
I'm really not making fun of the dead guy.
That's crazy, though.
But so he chartered these two fishermen.
It was illegal.
They were arrested eventually.
But he made like five attempts over the course of two days.
So they stopped about 2,000 meters from.
the shore, warned him not to go closer. He took a canoe. They came out and gave a hostile response.
He went back. He tried to go back again and speak to them. They erupted in laughter.
Then he eventually tried to go back and a young boy shot a metal-tipped arrow that he was holding
a Bible and it went through the Bible that he was holding on his canoe, which feels like that's a
pretty good warning shot. And then finally two days later, he said, I'm going to be able to be
going and he told the fishermen to leave without him, but they didn't.
He was committed to this.
He went to the shore and he said, the fisherman said almost immediately they saw them dragging
his dead body.
So they weren't alone.
You know what I mean?
Just fucking leave them alone.
Yeah.
Who's the idiot here?
And I know you said you're not making fun of the dead guy, but like, it's Satan's last
stronghold?
First of all, shut up.
Secondly, like, just, if it is, do you?
really want to go there and like, what's the logic here? And I know people probably say the same
thing about me trying to go find cannibals in Papua New Guinea, but it's like, what, what's the logic
behind this? Like, you know, the difference is, is that, you know, you just said it. He's going there
to convince these people to also make poor decisions based on faith with no scientific backup or
knowledge or anything. And they don't want any of it. They already have.
their own brainwashing system.
They don't need, like, somebody to come in there with this book.
They probably, the book, man, I mean, have they ever even seen a book?
They were probably like, what is that?
His shield?
What the fuck?
What is this thing?
But it's unbelievable that he went in there after the fucking metal-tipped arrow went
through the Bible, like, and still went.
Like, that's just nuts.
That's crazy.
I'm not making fun of the guy.
I mean, I kind of am, but it's ridiculous.
You are.
We both are.
If you type in North Sentinel Island,
on Google, there's one five-star review for the island and nothing else.
What does it say?
Oh, that's great.
It doesn't.
I tried to see if there was any written.
There's nothing.
It's just a blank five-star review.
But somebody's probably going to look at that and be like, you know, that sounds like a nice place.
There's a really pretty picture.
It's five stars.
I mean, let's go.
You should go there.
You know, after he got killed, so the Indian authorities sort of started heading towards the island to try and, like,
either recover the body or investigate it.
And ultimately they were just like,
now they just were like, it was self-defense.
They can't.
Of course.
Yeah.
Of course.
That's the right thing to do.
What are they going to do?
Like go and ruin this entire island's like uncontacted nation to try and get some of his body back.
This is how the crusades started, I heard.
Same exact thing.
One guy with a fucking Bible on a canoe.
And you saw what happened there.
Maybe we could do a Truman show.
show type of thing where we just watch
North Sentinel Island from
from like satellites.
We're drones, just get a bunch of drones
buzzing around. That'll confuse the hell out of them.
Oh, God. Yeah, maybe it'd be like
watching a real housewife type thing. I mean, maybe they're
like really sassy and
catty with each other.
They are.
Just like one's big puffed up lips and huge fake
tits, like implanted coconuts.
It's basically fucking like, it's like
fucking Wakanda over there. It's like this
fantasy island. There's like cities. They're
getting coconut breast implants and crabs are pinching their lips to puff them up and the fucking
the real the real housewives of north sentinel it's like a big thing going on over there pretty
soon you're going to have a selling sentinel show a spin off from selling sunset totally
very good so there's some um i got some i got backlogged on brosner dms while i was down with
the rona um a handful of them were hey hope
you get better, hope you're doing well. Peter told us all you have COVID. Nothing in your life is
private. And then... No, this is on the Patreon. No, I appreciate it. And then I got some other
pretty interesting ones. My favorite one came from at Mahobi, who said there was a clogged cooling
pipe in an Australian steel mill. And I was like, okay, who cares? The reason for it was a
2.7 meter long catfish.
Now, this got my attention.
I thought this was pretty interesting.
Have you guys seen this story yet?
No.
Have not.
So there's, yeah, there's this clogged pipeline somewhere in Australia,
and you just see this giant chain from this industrial plant pulling this massive catfish
up out of this industrial area.
This giant catfish had just swum into the pipeline and died and totally shut down
the steel mill.
It was crazy.
Here, I pulled it up on Reddit.
Let's take a look here.
Yeah, look at this thing.
Just this beast of a fish that it swum into a pipeline at the steel mill.
Have you ever gone noodling?
Never, and I've tried to go twice and not made it.
I would love to go.
It looks like so much fun.
I don't think it looks fun.
Go on.
It looks fucking scary.
I don't know what it is.
What's noodling?
Nootling is when you go into the south.
And it's specifically in Oklahoma, I think, is the hub of it.
That's where we tried to book anyway.
And in the springtime, it's like early summer, late spring, early summer, the catfish are holed up, like the big blue catfish are holed up in breeding season.
And they're defending their nests.
And so you go in this super muddy water, I mean like zero inches of visibility.
And you feel around for holes in the riverbank and you stick your arm in.
and if you stick your arm in one with a giant capfish that's pissed off,
it bites your arm.
And when it bites your arm, you stick your arm in further
and grab onto the catfish by the gill plate and pull it out.
And you can just use, it's called noodling because you take your arm
and your arms the bait and you stick it in these holes like a noodle.
And all of a sudden you just feel this 50-pound thing latch onto your arm
and you just grab and pull it out and you pull out these giant capfish
that look like that thing we just saw on Reddit.
And I mean, I think the first time would be scary.
Because there's also snapping turtles, alligator snapping turtles.
Some of the areas have alligators, and you're waiting around in this muck water,
like sticking your arms in these holes.
I mean, I think the very first one would be scary, but I do want to try it.
But, dude, there's like all these pictures online of, like, you know, 14-year-old girls
with this, you know, giant catfish latched on their arm and they're smiling,
holding up the fish with just their arm covered in their own blood.
Yes, that definitely happens.
People have lost a hand-noodling and people have drowned because they couldn't free themselves.
Like, it doesn't sound good at all.
Do catfish have teeth?
They have, like, sandpapery teeth, like a mouth full of, like, little, like a mouthful of, like, little, little sharp, jagged sort of sandpapery type mouth.
But they have those stingers, right?
Like those stingers on the side there, of their face?
Some, oh, the barbels?
No, those don't stink.
Those are for feeling.
They use those.
Because they live in such dirty water, those, the whiskers.
also known as barbles, are used to feel around.
They're actually dexterous like fingers.
I didn't know that.
So when they kind of see anything, they can feel around with them.
No, it's really cool.
They're super fun fish to have in a fish tank
because you can watch them like using their chin barbles
to touch things and very tactile with them.
It's really cool.
Well, and with a catfish, you never have to clean the tank,
the dirtier the better for them.
They do like it pretty gross.
They're very easy.
Are they easy to keep for us, I would imagine?
because they're...
Very, yeah, very, very simple.
Could you put catfish into a koi pond with your koi fish?
I have a channel cat in my koi pond.
That you caught, that you caught, or that you...
Yep, I was up cruising around the Sandinez River,
and I found a little pool of water,
and there was a school of, like, channel cats about this big in there,
little tiny little baby ones,
and I scooped up like six of them, threw them all in the pond.
This was like four years ago,
and I thought, because I have a bass in that,
same pond as well, and I thought the bass just ate them all, because I never saw him again.
And then maybe a year ago, I was throwing food in the pond at night. I think I was, like,
cleaning fish scraps, because I throw all my, like, fish scraps in there for the turtles and
coin and stuff to eat. I was, like, throwing fish scraps in there. And sure enough, this, like,
footlong black catfish came up, grabbed a chunk of fish and disappeared. And I was like,
at least one of them survived. And, uh, yeah, that's the only time I've ever seen it. I don't know
if it's still in there or not in there, but I'm, I think he's there.
What about a new show just called Kauipon Monsters?
Like river monsters?
We'll do Kui Pond Monsters.
Peter, if you, if you ever end up getting married to your current girlfriend,
maybe for your bachelor party, we get a nice boat, we go out, we bring a bunch of booze on the boat.
You and I sit, drink, get a tan, and for us noodles.
Yep.
And that's just your bachelor party.
Is that, are you in for that?
But we're doing it in Daytona Beach, Florida.
So I'm noodling in clear water, and it's actually just groping people that are splashing around in the shallows.
It's very different.
I'm in. Either way.
Spring break of freshman year of college, a bunch of my friends went to Cancun, and I, of course, didn't have money for any of that.
But me and my buddy on a whim were like, we got a friend in Miami, one of the guys who lived in our dorm.
So we drove to Miami, had a fucking terrible time.
My fake idea got taken the first night at the first bar
It sucked
We were sleeping in a camper van in our friend's driveway
About 40
So it's like 98 degrees out
It was horrendous
We were like let's get out of here
Let's go to Daytona Beach
We'll have a better time there
We didn't have a better time there
We had a terrible time there
It was I mean this was me at 19 with nothing to lose
A very reckless person
The behavior that I witnessed
I've seen more manners
from a pack of hyenas stealing a kill from a lion.
It was horrible.
I couldn't believe it.
Can you elaborate?
Nice, Peter.
I've never actually been to Daytona Beach.
I just know the reputation.
Can you elaborate a little bit on that behavior?
Give us a good visual.
Paint me a picture.
So it's a big beach and you can drive your cars on the beach.
So you're basically on this huge, like, wide beach.
The sand area is super wide between where it starts in the ocean.
And so.
It's just everyone with their white pickup trucks driving drunk right past you.
So that part of it's terrifying.
And then basically every 60 feet is an impromptu wet t-shirt contest.
So you basically have like women in thongs and just like really drunk frat boys,
like just like dumping beer over the women's heads and like tearing their shirts off.
And so we were like the beach is scary.
Yeah, we got to get off the beach.
The peach is scary.
Terrifying.
So then we attempted to go to a nightclub and had the worst two hours of our life.
It was so bad.
We were so happy to just get in the car the next day and drive back to Oswego, New York.
That's funny.
That happens sometimes.
They can all be stellar trips, especially not when you're young.
Although typically you have a good time when you do shit like that when you're young.
I mean, you guys didn't do any.
You know what you see like really drunk people acting poorly, like on the Las Vegas strip?
Yes.
And you're like, well, whatever.
You just kind of walk around them.
It's just all of those people together on one beach, drunk driving while they're on the beach.
That's like Lake Havasu with boats.
I don't know if you've ever been to Lake Havasu.
I haven't.
Yeah, you're familiar with its reputation.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So I drove out there because that's only like a, I don't know, six hour drive from Santa Barbara,
maybe 10. I don't remember anymore. We drove out there for a spring break. I think I was a freshman in
college. And this is how how bad it was there. As a freshman in college, I was like, oh, this is too
trashy for me. And that's really saying something because there was not much that I could. No, I mean,
we were there. Semen out of a boot these days. So it's very trash. We were there to have a good time.
And I was like, oh, this is a real lowbrow crowd over here. Well, I'll tell you, when I
drove cross country last summer, we drove, whatever road we were taken went right by the,
right by Lake Havasu. I probably saw, in a five mile stretch, I probably saw 15 cars towing boats.
Yeah. Yep. I will be damned if all 15 boats did not have flames or lightning bolts painted down
the side. Exactly. Every single one. Yeah. It's a big barbed wire band tattoo,
flame boat kind of, you know, a lot of Hawaiian t-shirts.
with bellies that don't fit inside of them kind of vibe.
It was a, I mean, we had a really, really good time.
But it was just, yeah, you sort of just had to be like, okay, this is who I am this weekend.
Like, I'm going to go to the store.
I'm going to get some glue-on tattoos and try and fit in for a few days.
Glue on.
Well, gentlemen, what do you think?
Do we have one picked out?
Because I think it's time.
We do.
Do the thing.
Do you know what time it is?
Pat, you sound like you have COVID in that stinger.
The Battle Royale.
All right, here it is.
I like it.
All right, here it is.
It's from Elliot Miller.
It came in through the Patreon.
Nice.
Hey, Brocast, Battle Royale idea to pass along to y'all.
Used a hard y'all.
Rewind all the way back to middle school.
It's your class talent show.
You have to select an animal that you're bringing in.
a talent that the animal you have must...
Sorry, a talent that the animal and you must do together
and the name of your act.
Hope you all have some fun with this.
Love y'all.
There's a lot y'alls in there.
So it's show and tell day in your middle school.
This is submitted by Elliot Miller from the Patreon.
It's show and tell day.
You got to bring an animal.
You got to do an act with it, and you got to name it.
That is the Battle Royale.
Unbelievable.
I already know exactly what I'm going to do.
Why don't you lead then?
Because I have given this zero thought.
I'm going to start with my animal.
Okay.
I'm going to tell you why.
Because it's in middle school.
There's only literally one thing that any middle school boy cares about.
And that is, yeah, yeah.
But for me, as a straight male, it was just hoping that I could even get a girl to look at me.
Yep.
Of course.
God, let alone maybe, maybe get to first base.
Right.
course. So I'm going with a very cute animal that also has a fantastic talent that matches,
is in line with one of my talents. Okay. I am picking the fenic fox. Wow. And I'll tell you why
later. Okay. Because it's so goddamn cute. All the girls, you know, all the girls are going to be like,
oh my God, can I pet the fox? Yep. Yep. It's smart. Very smart. Peter, what do you got?
All right. Well, I'm going with a very dexterous, dexterous, I don't know how to say it,
animal that will be able to manipulate drumsticks and he will be on drums and he will be
well I guess shit I told you my talent first so okay okay so drumming so should I now take chimpanzee
just to take that out of your repertoire to fuck you up or should I leave it we're a duo here
he's going to be playing drums with me rapping rapping okay so drumming
It comes with me doing some rapping.
And to be clear, you thought this would make you popular in middle school.
Oh, dude.
We crushed this fucking chimpanzee.
I mean, this animal.
Chamansy?
Are you going to be doing your song that you sent me one night when you were hammered,
The Little Things?
Oh, interesting.
Oh, God.
I sent you that.
Yeah, I have it.
Peter recorded a rap song called The Little Things.
Just going to be a beat.
Just a beat.
There's no melody.
It's going to be like,
have you ever seen old videos of like Biggie Smalls or Tupac?
That's what it would be like.
He's beatboxing,
but on a drum set.
Yeah.
So when I went to middle school,
Elvin and the Chipmunks was huge, right?
Huge.
And although it's not the most exotic creature to pick and bring in,
I'm bringing in three well-dressed chipmunks to class.
Because that way I can be like,
yeah, I mean, you guys are just watching it on TV.
I'm living it every day in my life.
you know, one with a little red A shirt, one with a little green, I don't remember their names, but I'm bringing in three chipmunks.
Thank you.
I'm bringing it three chipmunks.
Might not know about animals, no about cartoons.
Is the blue chipmunk, is the blue shirted chipmunk going to have a pair of spectacles?
Yes, absolutely.
I'll have to super glue them to his head, but it'll be worthwhile.
So, yeah, so I'm bringing in three chipmunks, and they're all going to, the performance that they're going to do is the fact that they are perfectly clad,
in Alvin and the Chipmunks, drab.
You know, they're fully dressed out.
One has spectacles.
They've got the green, the red, and the blue t-shirts.
And I'm just going to let them go in the class and see what happens.
So wait, what's their talent?
Just being dressed.
This is awful, horrible.
Also, this is a talent show where you're on stage.
Letting them go in the class does not fit.
It's not correct.
Well, I can't say that I could choreograph them to sing because that's what Elv.
Okay, fine.
I'll do the singing and they'll just run around.
Can you give us a little taste of what your Elvin and the Chipmunks voice would sound like?
I don't even remember what it sounded like.
I have COVID.
Beador.
Doot.
Doot.
Is that how it went?
I don't even know.
I don't think that's how it went.
You don't even know.
You haven't.
You've not.
I just heard of this talent show.
It was popular.
And I'm on the spot here and I'm bringing in three chipmunk.
It's fine.
I'm not lost.
I've still got one.
So drumming and wrap.
What's your animal and what's your what's your animal or name?
Peter.
That's for me, right?
He has no idea.
He doesn't know what fucking planet he's on right now.
What are you talking about?
Relax over there.
You look like you're in jail with your fucking babushka on your head.
Nice striped shirt.
Fuck.
All right.
So my animal is going to be a chimpanzee.
A chimpanzee that plays drums.
Nice heavy drumsticks.
Beautiful, beautiful pearl.
drum set with me on the voice box.
Sounds good.
It's good.
When I was a kid, every year for Christmas,
I would get a new copy of the Guinness Book of World Records,
and I would read that shit.
I thought it was fascinating.
I loved all the strange records.
And I, one of my goals was to be in there.
And I had decided that an attainable record that I could set
was the record for most baked beans
eaten one by one with a toothpick in 10 minutes.
Okay. And so I practice this, and I have some skill.
I'm good at stabbing. I'm good at eating quickly without blasting myself in the tongue with the toothpick.
So Phenic foxes eat, they eat like little mealworms. I got to feed some once.
And so I'm going to modify it, and we are going to on stage, myself and the fox, are going to break the speed eating record for mealworms,
eaten one by one with a toothpick in 10 minutes.
Very, very elaborate.
This is definitely going to get you some,
get you laid for sure.
Wait until you hear the name of the act,
because that's really going to, right?
So now I've presented this cute fox.
I've just been given a blue ribbon medal
for setting a world record live on stage.
But now I've got to kind of get rid of my like,
nice guy, awshucks kind of thing that I had going on
because I was like a shy kid in middle school.
So the name of the act is,
going to be the Fenwick Fox
Fuck Boys. Wow.
FFF, okay. When you come on
to stage, will you be announced
like that? The Fennick Fox Fuck Boys.
No, yeah. I'm going to scream
it into the mic and then
what got you more street credit in middle school than getting
suspended? No, that's
the like badass boy shit that's going to get you a lot of
attention. Yeah, especially after you know
those mealworms with a toothache. You're nice and
And then you drop, Fennickfucks, fuck boys.
You get suspended.
Like, that's huge.
That's big.
I don't even want to compete any longer.
Well, yeah, you're already out.
So, yeah.
All right.
What's the name of your chimpanzee rapping acts?
You're going to dress up chipmunks and let them loose in the class?
I'm doing an elven.
I'm doing an elven in the chipmunks thing.
Just you do yours, you know, you wrap, go on, I'm ripping off something here.
Okay.
All right.
So I got a chimpanzee, just amazing.
Just going wild out back.
there. Maybe he's doing a little,
uh,
while I'm rapping with me
in key, in tune.
Uh, and our act is
going to be called
chimp hop.
That's right.
Like hip hop, but chimp hop.
That's right.
I mean, I've won this one.
It's, it's not even a question.
What's he doing?
Yours are both better than, uh,
than, uh,
forest and the monk chips, which is,
I didn't name of it.
The forest and the monk chips.
That's the name of our act.
Um,
I will be dressed up.
in a big
He might have saved it with that name.
By the way, the fucking drama teacher is going to be like,
did anyone see Forrest?
He was supposed to be on stage in 30 seconds.
So like, yeah, he didn't understand what a talent show is.
He's in the classroom chasing Roden surround.
All the students are here in the assembly room.
And there's nobody in there.
I don't know what he's doing.
Oh, that's pretty good.
Listen, drop us a vote.
Let us know if Pat, who would win in the talent show?
Is it Patrick with the Fennick Fox Fuck Boys as they eat the most mealworms in 10 minutes using a toothpick?
Is it Peter and the chip hop, chimp hop?
Chimp hop, am I saying that right?
Chimpop, which is drumming chimpanzee while he wraps, or is it Forrest and the monk chips three scabbly clothed chipmunks running around in pure chaos while I attempt to sing?
You let us know.
That's great. It's fucking, you might have won just because it's the dumbest thing you've ever done.
It's really stupid.
Good job, buddy.
That's right.
You got COVID.
Yeah.
He's got frog brain from the COVID, the long COVID.
Dude, do the thing.
Retef, tell people where to go, what to do, do the thing.
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Oh, he didn't steal my thing.
Gotta get your body into it.
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