Wild Times: Wildlife Education - UFO Files Release Confirms Aliens?
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Wild times, we are back.
Yeah, baby.
I'm here.
I'm in the studio.
So, I'll preface this before we get into anything by saying I walked in the studio.
Peter was jumping with joy.
He was hopping in his little blundstone boots.
Like I've never seen someone hopped before.
That's right.
And he said, he ran up to me.
I thought he was going to kiss.
me on the lips. He didn't. And he said to me, do you know about the UFO stuff? Did you not do this?
I did. Of course I did. Why would you? And of course, I said, no, I have no idea what you're talking
about. So Patrick being the producer, I of course, I'm the, the, what am I the broologist? And we have the
professor here. I think so. Said, all right, save it. Don't say anything more. Peter then yelled at him
for three seconds. And we decided we're going to do it all on air. So today is a special podcast. Why?
Well, you, I think this makes a lot of sense because you just got back, what, three and a half weeks in Africa?
I was, yep. I've been back for less than 12 hours.
He has no idea what's going on in the world right now.
Exactly. So you were completely out of communication and some pretty remote parts of Africa.
And on the upcoming pods, we're going to get real deep into your trip and all sorts of videos and stuff like that.
Yeah.
But while you were gone, essentially the entire, I believe, based on some of the things that have been disclosely,
closed, no, there was a, the Department of War did a massive release of 162 files on, on
unidentified aerial phenomenon, dating all the way back to the Apollo missions.
Okay.
And earlier, but yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So they're, it's fascinating.
Okay.
Mainstream media's coverage of it at first was very much focused on just political
bullshit.
Like, oh, this is, it's just a big.
distraction from the Epstein files.
Sure. You know, standard
dogleg, you know, smoke and mirrors.
Yeah, I went on to war.gov
slash UFO and started actually
downloading
this declassified files.
Okay. So if to download each one, it's a
some of them are like up to 200 pages.
What is war.gov slash UFO
for those of us that aren't in the net? I'll dive
into this just real quick. So they
switched the DOD's name
to war, the Department of War
rather than the Department of Defense. So that's
the official Department of Defense website.
Who did this?
Is this the Trump administration?
Of course it was.
Congratulations.
It's much cooler sounding.
It is.
I mean, Department of Defense, it's like, oh, we're the Avengers.
No, Department of War.
It's like, oh, that's scary.
All right.
So anyways, then, you know, Trump came out, the administration came out and said,
hey, like, we're going to start being a lot more open with this phenomenon.
And then they really followed through on this one.
And a couple weeks later, I think in early May, May 5th or something,
something, they, they dropped about 160 files onto this website that, as Patrick said, are all
official reports.
So this is nothing from like, this is all like three letter agencies that have corroborated
things.
It's not a guy said or someone saw or Jeremy Corbell.
Right.
You know, there's no spin on it.
These are the reports.
So are you guys saying we have approved aliens now?
No.
Is that what I'm hearing?
No, I mean, I think I started opening the files and there's amazing stuff in there that I think is stuff that people should know.
Yes.
It's also, I started trying to talk to a bunch of my friends about it.
I was trying to talk to my brothers about it.
I was trying to talk to my wife about it.
I realize like, you know, people just want a Cliffs notes.
Okay.
They don't want to go and download a 200 page PDF.
It's one of 162.
That's why they've done it this way.
To some, I don't know.
No. I'm not sure.
Okay.
But I think the mainstream coverage has very, it's honed in on a couple things that happened on like the Apollo missions.
Right.
Things like that.
But so Peter and I have, the world that you live in has changed while you were gone.
Apparently.
Because of this document release.
And so what we wanted to do is for you and the viewers that are interested is to just kind of do a cliff's notes of some of the most interesting things that are in this release.
And we'll just talk about it.
Yeah.
And we'll just see how.
goes and i and i really want the brosners to weigh in in the comments on this because it's obviously
very close to my heart and i consider this not full like alien disclosure but full disclosure of
the government admitting that there are UFOs and they they have not necessarily admitted they know
what it is they probably do know a lot more but like they're saying now with this release like
oh yeah like this has been going on for decades and decades and we know
about it. We've recorded it. We've investigated it. We've done dozens and hundreds of investigations
on it. All right. Well, color me intrigued because I don't know what was happening.
So we'll just get into like, let's just start with sort of some. So there, one of the documents
is a technical crew debriefing from Apollo 11. Okay. So that's, yeah. Have you heard? So this was
July 31st, 1969 mission. Paul 11 mission, very well known. Have you heard of Buzz Aldrin?
Indeed, I have. And what about Neil Armstrong? No.
not heard of that guy.
First man, he walked on the moon.
Yes, I know who those two people are.
If it was real.
No, just kidding.
Of course it was real.
They're up, they're headed up on the Apollo mission,
headed towards the moon.
Okay.
Buzz Aldrin, so he's basically,
and they have transcripts of the communications
that he's having with Houston.
Okay.
So Aldrin in the transcripts
describes three separate odd observations.
One is an,
he sees an object
excuse me of sizable dimension
headed towards the moon
that he's like
hey guys there's something else up here
that's going to the moon
right now that's bizarre
he sees recurring flashes
inside the cabin
while trying to sleep
and is like
he's trying to figure out what it is
is it like water vapor or whatever
but there's some other
source of
flashing light that's happening in space in proximity to the aircraft that they can't figure
out what it is.
And then, oh, and then on the return trip, there was something happening that they were saying
they believed was a laser being shined around in space.
Oh, weird.
So this is from the actual Apollo 11 transcripts.
I mean.
And this is Buzz Aldrin himself saying this.
And I'm not, I'm not sure if these actual.
audio transcripts were ever released.
And if they were, they were likely edited because I know there's a lot of that.
They do release like the audio from these things.
And they really edit out things like this.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, this is like, Buzz Aldjan, if you've ever seen videos of him, is a like a very serious dude.
Oh, yeah.
Like, and he's, this is the other thing that is fascinating to me about when these astronauts,
we're going to get into more of these.
Oh, my God.
So if you're just watching, Kyle just clicked through to a Google,
drive that I assume Peter and Patrick have put together. How many documents have you guys organized for
this conversation? I have three or four things that I want to talk about that I'm very intrigued by.
But one of the main kind of points through a couple of the things is that these are actual transcripts
from the astronauts, right? And they've declassified what was really said. So like, there's no like
spin on this whatsoever. And my thing is like, you'll hear later and we'll talk about it. But
these astronauts, I just want to point out, they're so trained on these missions that they have
gone through every single thing that could go wrong that they might see.
They know everything.
They don't send them out there like, you know, they're ready to be surprised.
Yeah, yeah.
They're not picking these guys up behind Home Depot.
So when they say they see something, what the fuck is that?
Right, right, exactly.
So they would know if they knew that this was some explainable thing that they were seeing.
I just want to point that out.
Sorry, so I just have a question about this
Buzz Aldrin thing.
Balls Aldrin?
Yeah.
Balls Aldrin.
The sizable object, or, yeah, is the lights
coming from inside the cabin of the object?
Is the lights?
No.
Are the lights coming from?
Separate reports.
So, basically, the object, like,
Buzz Aldrin knows what an asteroid is.
He knows what a meteor is.
Of course.
Right.
He says there's a very large object
headed towards the moon.
Mm-hmm.
So it's not like, hey, there's some rock
flying through space.
It's great podcast when one person's talking and both of the other people are on their
phone.
That's why we made a show doc.
Well, you, yeah, go ahead.
You took some of it out that I needed to look at.
Not a single thing.
Okay.
Not one word was deleted.
All right, come on.
Just keep going.
Just keep going.
No, that's fair.
I'm listening with my ears, though I may not be looking directly at you, I promise.
So the fact that he said there's something really big out here and it's headed to the moon,
to me is different than there's something flying in the direction.
direction of the moon or there's something
crazy flying through space. The flashes
of light where they were trying to sleep
and from outside
because obviously there's windows
right or port holes
or whatever the thing you call them. There was
lighting up and it was waking everyone
up and they couldn't figure out what the
flashing lights were. Right.
I didn't know what it was. Got it. Okay. I wasn't sure
if the flashing lights were inside of
the space station or
inside of the craft.
Yeah. Now he didn't ever
use the word craft.
I think they could see that it was big.
Obviously, you know, it was far away.
Yeah.
Right?
So he's seeing light and, you know, I don't know.
Got it.
But basically it was like, yeah, there's something else headed to the fucking moon.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude, it's crazy.
So let's move on to the Apollo 12 one because this one.
Wait, so.
Okay.
So I understand everything that you guys just explained.
Was there any upshot of this when he got back?
They did a debriefing.
They debriefed him.
And he just said, like, I think that the debriefing is fully unclassified also.
But like, we, we would spend an entire 24 hours talking about it if we.
Yeah, I mean, some of these, especially these documents are really, really long, like in the hundreds of pages.
Oh, okay.
But no, I mean, they don't, they don't know what they saw.
Sure.
This had never been reported to the American public until now.
Interesting.
Okay.
So it's, that's, uh, it's just a little taste there.
That's a lot, though.
Yeah.
Okay. So let's, let's move on.
to the...
Well, actually,
thoughts so far?
What do you think?
I mean,
okay,
that's a good,
good stopping point.
I think that
the conspiracy people
who say that we never
went to the moon
will be like,
oh, well,
he could have said anything,
right?
That's what I think
that sect of people
will say.
I think Buzz Aldrin
coming back and going like,
yeah, I saw something
flying to the moon
and there were flashings of light.
To me,
not knowing anything
about physics or space,
I'd be like,
okay, the flashing light
could be explained
by particles of gas
or water,
whatever.
I don't know
answer to that.
And then the thing moving to the moon,
like if Buzz had been like, no, guys,
there's another metallic object flying through space next to me.
I would have been like, holy shit.
But like, oh, there's something also headed in this direction.
Yes, he knows what an asteroid is.
He knows what all these other things are.
But obviously it was far enough away that he couldn't identify it.
So I like both pieces of information.
I think it's surprising that we've kept this until 2026 to share these pieces of information.
That should tell you something right there.
That's my point.
is like if these were so benign and it's like, yeah, there was flashing light from, you know,
moisture build up in the cabin that was reacting to the speed.
I'm making this up, obviously.
Like, okay, then why did we keep this confidential for, you know, 50 years?
And then same again with the thing moving through space.
It's like, was it so unimportant this information that it was just neglected to be shared?
Or was it intentionally kept from the American public?
that's the question.
I mean, I think I know the answer.
Well, let's get it down.
But anyway,
okay, so the next one
is the Apollo 12 now.
Okay, this was two years later?
In 69, yeah.
I think it was both 60.
Oh, same year.
Okay.
In 69, yeah.
Wow, I didn't know that.
That's interesting.
Okay.
So that one was in July
and Apollo 12 was in November.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the interesting thing about this one,
Pat, do you know about this one?
You would give a brief synopsis and I'll go into it.
Pete Conrad and Alan Bean.
Was Alan Bean the first American in space?
I don't know.
He's famous for some reason.
He's done, he did something.
I think he might have been the first.
He was the fourth person to walk on the moon.
All right.
So anyway, so he's involved in this as well as Pete Conrad,
who's another one of the sort of famous, like when astronauts were like the
celebrities.
Yeah, the rock star days.
Before we had the Timberlakes.
It's funny.
Like Justin Timberlake, that's probably like a boomer reference, isn't it?
Oh, yeah.
There's nobody in our younger audience who even knows who that is.
They're like, we only know who Lil Slippy is.
No, they definitely know who he is because he's just got a DUI and they released all the police videos.
Yeah, it's true.
He loves Little Slippy.
Yeah.
All right.
So anyway, so this one I found very interesting.
So later that year, four months later, there's another mission on the moon.
Um, Alan Bean reports that he was looking through on the way out there, um, the LM alignment optical telescope.
And he is seeing basically flashes of light that he said were basically shooting off of the moon.
Okay.
He didn't know what the fuck they were.
And he literally said it looked like they're escaping the moon.
Okay.
So, well, I'll stop you there.
First of all, Kyle, we have six pictures from this from the moon.
You guys have put so much work into this.
I'm impressed.
Yeah.
So here are the six.
pictures. I've asked Kyle to leave them up because everybody yells at him for not leaving him up.
So here's one. Sorry. Sorry, I didn't realize he was on the moon as this is happening. Oh,
while seeing these flashes. Okay. Sorry, I didn't get that piece of information. Okay. And so
Kyle's kind of going through the six pictures as we're talking here. We can comment on them again.
But I want to read just the exact transcript because this is really fascinating.
I'm going to close my eyes for this and put myself in Houston's position. Do your best action.
No, but sell it as though you're, you got to go. Okay.
Houston. Okay, okay. Okay. Roger. When you look out the AOT in the dark quadrant, you could see these lights. Particles of light. Flashes of light just seem to come from, in this case, I'm looking in quadrant one, which is the left one. It's coming from behind me, the left, and they're just sailing off in space. I was thinking they're dropping from my water boiler, but it looks like some of those things are escaping the moon. They really haul out of here and just press off at the stars.
Okay. So that's what the astronaut says, what he's looking at on the moon, which we're showing the pictures of.
So he's talking about the dark, literally they're leaving the dark side of the moon, right?
Yep. He's seeing this stuff leaving and heading off in space and we have pictures here.
That's interesting. Okay. And now again, he goes, got sort of an interesting thing going on AGS right now. I didn't notice earlier, but it may just be because the lights are brighter now. I'm getting an all eight's flash on both the address and the information.
information registers at about one-fifth the brilliance of the normal numbers, and it's,
uh, it's pulsing every second. Okay, Roger, Al. Okay, and then it goes on and this is the,
this is the, the, sorry, hold on. Yeah, I didn't understand that. So he's basically saying that he's,
he's, he's seeing other pulsing lights, essentially. But what do you say about his date and address or
something? No, he, well, I mean, there's a lot of kind of jargon in here, you know, but he's, he's, he's
says the lights are brighter now. I'm getting in all eights flash on some of his
his like instrumentation because he's looking at this through specialized equipment.
I see. He's not with his eyes. Like he's looking at it. He's looking at it through the
telescope. A telescope. Okay. Okay. And so he's basically seeing lights. So I think what he thought,
right, because he's standing next to his Apollo 12 craft. Yeah. Right. He's looking through
this telescope. Yep. And so he thought maybe there was water vapor coming off of the boiling.
that was attached to the thing
that was just in the foreground of the telescope.
But then he's realizing that it's actually stuff
that's shooting off the backside of the moon.
Interesting.
Okay.
That's interesting.
Now, this part is very interesting.
So we skip a few back and forth.
Now, this is Houston back to him.
Roger L.
Fredo is here.
So this is now somebody new has jumped on
to jump in here to respond.
You don't fuck around with Frato.
No, no.
He sounds serious.
He goes, he goes, he and I have both seen that phenomenon on your DEDA during testing of most all the spacecrafts up at Beth Page.
And it's probably an EMI, electromagnetic information.
Oh, okay, Fredo.
So somebody hops in, somebody hops on, like clearly, probably in a panic.
I mean, I haven't listened to it.
Yeah.
To immediately explain away and debunk what this, again, what this astronaut.
Who has been trained on every possible scenario that you're going to the fucking moon.
Like, you're going to die if you don't know every fucking thing you might see.
Right.
He's explained.
And look at the pictures.
There's all these fucking lights.
It's Alan Bean who's probably, you know, one of the most decorated military pilots in
in U.S.
history.
He's got to be one of the most.
Who knows how to take apart and put back together every single piece of the crash.
Exactly.
Plus do every calculation required to land in the right place.
on Earth and on the moon.
And basically Fredo jumps on,
like, we saw that up at Beth Page.
And you didn't.
But you didn't, you weren't ever any of that testing.
He's like, I'm looking out at the dark side of the moon,
and I'm taking pictures of the stuff that's taking off.
Yeah.
It's pretty wild.
So let's look at these objects, though,
that are escaping the moon, as he said.
So that one's far away.
That's just like a light.
So is there any argument, as before we step into the specifics,
is there any argument?
And again, I understand very little of this,
to be made for, you know how we see shooting stars in the sky, and that's asteroids hitting the atmosphere.
No, in my opinion, it's not asteroids.
No, the astronauts would know that.
A shooting star.
Kyle, look up what a shooting star is.
It's a comet.
Yeah, it's a comet hitting the atmosphere, right?
Yeah, it's burning up in the atmosphere.
Is there a difference in a comet in a comet?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Well, fly is not going into the atmosphere, definitely.
Hold on, Kyle, before you X out of this.
So it says a shooting star,
is small pieces of dust or rock form from space that enter Earth's atmosphere at high speeds,
right? And that creates light. Friction with the air causes them to heat up and glow,
producing a brilliant light, a streak of light. So I guess the moon doesn't have an atmosphere,
though, right? Right. But comets don't do that. Like, necessarily, I don't, like, that's an asteroid
traveling, like Haley Bop, it comes around every so many years. It's floating around us.
So I guess knowing that I know nothing about this, is there any argument to be made that that's
what he's seeing from the moon. Something like that.
Taking, breaking apart, like the moon's breaking apart and rocks are flying out into space?
No, like something's hitting, I don't know. That's what I mean. He's saying it's leaving the moon.
Yeah, so that's very hard. We're shooting past the moon. That's what he says. Don't put words in his
mouth. I'm sorry. He has the text. These things are escaping the moon. Kyle, don't be reasonable,
all right? So, so why would, you don't think that Alan Bean knows what an asteroid or a common is?
I absolutely think he does. I'm just, I'm trying to. He's saying this stuff.
the shooting away from the moon.
Right.
Okay, so let's put our eyes if you zoom in on this one.
Look at number six.
This picture.
This picture has one, two, three, four, five areas.
Oh, shit.
Zoom way in on number, number, area five, Kyle.
Yeah.
That looks like a cylinder.
Yeah, that doesn't look like a bit of space dust.
Well, so in some of the other files, there's, this shape is frequently seen,
which is a cylinder.
And it turns, and there's one report where,
an astronaut talks about looking into the cylinder and it starts shifting shapes and turning into
different things.
Like what?
How much of a boner did you get when this came out?
I mean, well, a big one person in my own room, but I also know like there is this real
problem that people have.
Like this is this is the most important story in modern human history.
But people have a real problem getting over that the hump because of believing this or accepting that this is a reality because then you got to go on to think about what is this.
Right?
Like also does this fight God?
Does this fight Christianity?
Of course.
Exactly.
Nobody wants to face it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I mean, it certainly doesn't go with the Adam and Eve theory.
That's not Adam and even there were aliens.
Yeah.
Adam and even Glork.
Right.
So, but I mean, I also.
I get that it's like, yeah, I wish that Alan Bean had said like, hey, guys, another craft just came and landed right next to ours.
Yeah, right.
I would propose this, that they were trained, that they were informed about that this phenomenon happens and that they have to speak in a certain way about it.
Right. Or maybe not that this phenomenon happens, but, hey, if there's stuff that you can't explain, don't publicly say there's a spaceship or I'm seeing an alien.
Tiptoe around it.
choose your vernacular to cover all bases.
And make it so it's defensible in the actual transaction.
That I would believe.
Yeah, I believe that.
If I sent someone out there to deal with a rhino poaching, I would say the same thing.
If you're going on the radio, don't raise alarms by saying, I just saw a poacher.
You know what I mean?
Go on the radio and say, hey, there is some signs in this area.
You know what I mean?
Like something like that.
Well, he's just visually reporting exactly what he's.
He doesn't know what it is either.
Right.
So this stuff is.
is a natural phenomenon.
There's certainly much more detailed stuff that was disclosed, like, you know, aircraft sightings and things like that inside the Earth's atmosphere.
Yeah.
I think what is so interesting about these is just that we didn't really know that they were having these weird experiences on the moon.
Any of this.
These anomalies.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, like, you think about the next one, Kyle.
You think about the moon, the, the moon landing.
I'm not even getting into it.
Let's go to the next one.
Well, just give us your thought.
I was just thinking like, you know, like the moon landing and all of the politics around what was going on at that time, you know, with with the Russians and then being the first ones to space.
And then us like having to get to the moon, you know, like it was such like a thing that brought the country together, you know?
Sure.
It was like this huge.
It was like the biggest thing, dude.
Everybody watched that rocket and like everybody was like on their fucking pins and needles hoping that that rocket didn't blow up.
Do you remember when we use positive things like this to uniform people instead of hate?
Yeah. Or like clueless shit.
Just as a, just to dog like us briefly.
Yeah. As a nation, the United States, we used to use gigantic leaps of technology and success and general positive things to unite the nation.
Now we use negativity and hate to do it.
No question. We sure do.
That's fun. Yeah.
That's fun. All right. So this one I think we can get through quick.
you should pull up the transcript on this, Peter, if you have it.
This is Apollo 17.
So this is three years later, 1972.
Okay.
What was the Apollo 17 mission doing, Kyle?
You can find that out in the meantime here?
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We used to do a lot of space flying.
Yeah, we stopped doing that.
What was the mission for Apollo 17?
Well, that's weird too, isn't it?
It was the final crude mission.
To the moon?
Yes.
Okay.
Yep.
Yeah, it was the final, the final crude mission to the moon.
And then we just didn't do it for 80 years.
That is so weird, isn't it?
It's very strange.
Yeah, it's like, we can recreate this technology and advance it tremendously with computers.
Yeah.
And yet, we're just not doing it anymore.
You're not curious what's on the dark side of the moon?
And supposedly the reason is, just nobody wants to pay for it.
Not that interested.
Yeah, not that interesting.
Meanwhile, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are racing to do it.
Yeah.
If you want a conspiracy theorist, like my, mine's my theory on it, it's that we have technology that far surpasses rockets.
And we've had it for probably since that time period or a little bit after.
And they're just like, why the fuck will we spend my own?
We go to the moon all the time or whatever, you know.
Interesting.
So this is three years later, final man mission in the moon.
Ronald Evans.
Don't listen to me.
Jack Schmidt and Eugene Sernan are the astronauts involved.
So they had a few different incidents.
Two that I think are the most interesting.
One is that they reported that they were looking out and that it looked like a firework display in space.
Looks like the 4th of July he quoted here.
Yes, exactly.
And that, you know, there was just, you can imagine that.
There's not a whole lot more that needs to be said.
The second one, which I think is more interesting, is when Schmidt got really excited,
I exclaimed, basically shouted into his recorder that he had just seen a really bright flash on the surface of the moon.
That's really insane.
That's insane.
Yeah.
I mean, how crazy is that?
There's nothing.
It's a desolate dead.
There's nothing there.
Just geological things.
There's no, there's not even geological like earthquakes or anything on the moon, you know?
Right.
And so obviously NASA was like trying to, they do reports.
they're like, what could that have been?
And they speculated, could that have been a meteoroid impact that he was seeing?
Sure.
So, like, maybe.
But I think that also implies that he didn't, okay, know that that was a possibility.
Right.
All right.
So I'm going to give you just a couple of clips from the official transcript.
I wish I understood this.
I know.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like when we're talking about lion pride dynamics and Peter's like, oh, my God,
you think you know these things.
Yeah.
It's like, I think I know about the moon from, you know, the very,
superficial reading I've done. And then I understand none of this.
It's interesting. I'm trying to absorb it all, but boy, it's interesting.
Again, people don't, like, think about the size. Okay, think about the size of just our galaxy,
for example. And then think about how there's billions more galaxies. Like, the, and then
between all those galaxies, there's like an infant, the space between them is like an incomparable
distance. Right. Right. So it's like. Millions of light years and we can't even comprehend, like, a light year.
Yeah.
There's no way to understand it.
So, like, anybody who tries to think about it, it's just like, wow, what could it be?
Like, it could be anything.
We're an aunt's, bro.
We're so insignificant.
All right.
So I'll give you a couple of the clips from-
Files the most insignificant.
From what Harrison Schmidt said, he said, there's a whole bunch of big ones on my window
down there, just bright.
It looks like the Fourth of July out of Ron's window.
Wow.
Now you can see them.
You can see some of them in shape.
They're very jagged.
angular fragments that are tumbling.
Roger, they look like fluid of some sort.
Not to me.
They look like pieces of something.
And then I'm looking at what Jack was talking about.
It's definitely not a particle that's nearby because there is another one I can look at and get a
three-dimensional comparison with it.
It's a bright object and it is obviously rotating because it is flashing.
It's way out in the distance.
It's apparently rotating in a very rhythmic fashion because the flashes come around almost, almost on
time.
And as we look back at the Earth, it's up at about 11, maybe 10 or 12 Earth diameters.
Ron's been looking for the booster, but there's two of those flashers out there.
They're a liking intensity and pretty regular.
And they're widely separated.
There's more.
But I mean, if you guys...
Yeah.
But it's interesting to hear how they chatter.
Well, especially when they're saying like, hey, I think there's this weird angular object.
And it's like, nah, I don't think it's that.
You know, it's...
I don't know.
I liken it to, like, Darwin.
And what was Darwin's sidekick's name?
Charles Darwin when he went to the Galapagos
he had a buddy with him like a helper
Oh really?
Does it say it there Kyle?
Oh yeah and you talked about the flash
on the lunar surface?
Yeah.
Doesn't matter but it just sort of reminds me of like
Imagine you're Darwin and his sidekick
whose name I kind of think of
walking around
Let's call him Watson.
The Galapagos
and being like, have a look at this weird dinosaur
like lizard
that's spewing salt from its nose
No, Charles.
I don't believe that is
salt. In fact, I think that might be molten lava.
You know what I mean? It's just like, it's just, it's, I liken it to like just a first
observation for humankind. And they have had observed things on earth before. So it's
somebody to compare it to like, these guys are out there just like, what the fuck is that?
Pretty cool. Was space junk a thing back then? Not as much. No. No. So, uh, satellites
didn't start going up to, up into space until, uh, in the 50s, late 50s. But that brings me
another good one just to talk about UFOs. And if you're interested in this phenomenon, the biggest
thing that came out before these documents that was very close to disclosure was this woman,
I'm glad to talked about this, but she lives over in one of the Nordic countries. I can't remember.
But she's a scientist, obviously. And what she did was she started looking back at,
they have like these glass telescope images. So the images from telescopes from before.
we ever launched anything into space.
Okay.
And what she found was that there was many, like hundreds and thousands and maybe tens
and thousands of lights in the sky before satellites or before anything, right?
So that needed to be validated more.
And then she started to investigate, like, what could this be?
Like, could it be asteroids?
Could it be comets?
But she discovered that, um,
I might not get this exactly right, but that the way that these things were positioned, as she looked across time, when the earth shadow would block the sun, these things would disappear.
And then when it would come back, they would reappear in different spots, I believe.
I might have that wrong.
But the bottom line was that what she realized was that these were probably metallic objects that were reflecting the sun's life.
because of the study she did.
I read the thing and it was,
what was the deal?
Because multiple other agencies came in and reviewed.
Yeah, it's been peer review.
And came to the same conclusion.
Yeah.
That prior to the launch of satellites,
there were thousands of metal objects floating around space.
In space. Observing us, most likely.
All right.
So let's mix it up here.
This is one of my favorite ones here.
Okay, great.
Nice.
Before we move on, can I dogleg with one little thing?
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you guys know a bit about space junk?
No, a little bit, a little bit, maybe.
This might be the only thing I can intelligently contribute to this conversation.
So my buddy Ricardo has been on the pot a couple times.
He does logistics for satellite launches.
That's his job.
That's his career.
Travels the world, goes to locations where they do satellite launches, blah, blah, blah.
He's a smart guy.
The space junk epidemic is so bad.
Do you know how this works now that you buy real estate?
in space for satellites. Do you know about this?
I did not know that.
So, okay, so the space junk epidemic.
There's so much shit, right?
It's crazy.
So the whole of our space around Earth, I don't know what the layer is called, is filled
with so much junk that no matter what company you are, whether you're Elon Musk launching
Starlink or any of these companies that Ricardo consults and works for, you have to buy
real estate over the earth.
And the real estate is a certain altitude or distance from Earth that has been mapped
to show that there's no junk in that orbit.
Quadrant.
Yeah.
So because Earth, I'm going to butcher all of this,
but my understanding is because Earth has its own polarity and pull,
the space junk stays on a trajectory that does not fluctuate
between closer to or further from Earth for the most part.
It does a little bit, and that's when you get satellites getting hit and stuff.
But for the most part, it sort of just orbits around the planet at a certain distance from space.
Yeah.
So what Ricardo does and his company does, my understanding, between the U.S. government,
all these other governments, is all these companies that launch satellites, they have to buy
like a strip around the earth where they go, okay, from, I'm making the numbers up,
30,018 feet to 30,021 feet is my real estate.
Right.
And they spend millions and millions of dollars to these various entities to buy that tiny
little band of real estate.
I don't know.
Who is making money on?
this. I want that job. How do you own that
piece of freaking space real estate? They have to pay
a shit ton for it too. It's not like a little
bit. It's a lot. It's wild
man. It's really interesting. It's getting crowded. It's
getting really crowded. I mean like launches
are difficult because
you know a piece of space junk
that's a fucking centimeter
that's moving at 17,500
miles an hour. It could rip through a spacecraft.
Yep. Oh yeah.
It's amazing. No, it's nuts.
Maybe that's why we're not going to the moon anymore.
It's just too much space junk. It's just too much
You got it just too hard
to net.
You got to get Ricardo on this
Scroll down
Western event.
Yeah.
It was released on
2026, but what was the date
on it?
It's recent.
This was like
20
God damn you.
Fucking chat GPT.
It's okay.
Just keep being entertaining.
I read this.
So it's a four page PDF.
It's the last file released.
Oh,
that file's in the...
And so I randomly just clicked on it.
Is he like,
I'll just read this whole thing.
Kyle,
that's in the...
The Google Drive doc.
2023.
Okay, cool.
So this is in the Western U.S.
They didn't say, just go to the show, doc, please.
Pull up the PDF.
I don't want to read a four-page PDF.
This is a nightmare.
Dude, it's nice.
Somebody brings me up pictures.
So what happened in 2020?
So there's two different groups of federal agents.
They don't say from which agencies.
Okay.
Two different groups and two separate locations.
Okay.
Basically see a orange or,
floating above a natural rock formation glowing.
Where is this?
Do they say?
In the western U.S., unclear where.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Okay.
So the first group sees it, calls to the second group, and is like, hey, like, can you
look at this location and see what's going on?
So basically for two days, two separate groups that's six total federal agents in two
different areas are basically watching this orange orb.
that's floating and they said possibly there may have been more than one orange orb because it would disappear and come back.
Oh, weird.
So it's floating above this rock formation and then out from it to, it's usually three, but sometimes two and four, red orbs would come out of it also glowing.
And then those would basically disappear.
and that happened at least five times
so they were referring to the orange orb
as the mother orb
because it almost seemed like it was giving birth
to these other red things
anytime you call something a mother or anything
as it relates to out of space
it's yeah
now these are these are not a good sign
these are federal agencies
that are corroborating these reports right
correct yeah so they okay so
they said the smaller orbs would come out
move horizontally
occasionally they would
swoop down and then disappear.
They were observed from about
600 meters away.
How many feet is that?
That's about 2,000 feet.
And then they went and actually measured it
and realized they were 1,050 meters
away. So why didn't they send like jets
to fly into these things?
By the way, these things weren't
huge. They were like 12 to 18 meters across
the orbs. So like 50.
feet across.
I don't think they knew what the fuck they were looking at, but they basically watched
over the course of two days, this orange orb came, shot out some red orbs, then everything
would disappear.
Yeah.
It would come back.
They didn't know if it was the same one or not.
And then after two days, the phenomenon stopped happening.
This has to be filmed, though.
It was 2023.
We all had smartphones.
Dude, see, this is the thing.
This doesn't make sense to me.
No, no, no.
This is the thing about this release.
Like, they're doing this.
I believe this.
I'm hoping slowly, right?
Because even on the,
what's what they've said.
Department of War's UFO subset website.
It says,
and we're going to continuously release more things.
So I think,
and I hope,
they're like buttering us up
with stuff that's like text,
maybe some pictures.
And then the next couple releases,
maybe they're going to start coming out
with some videos.
They may not be perfect until finally like,
they're like,
all right, here's some shit you want to see.
I mean, look,
if I'm the head of space,
or Donald Trump or anybody and you come to me and go, hey, look, these things are real.
You know, BuzzSOM, there's this orb thing.
We got all these photos and videos.
We got a couple spaceships in Area 51.
They're real.
What do you want to do here?
You're a wacky president.
You like to roll the dice.
What do you want to do here?
I'm not going to say, drop it.
You know what I mean?
I'm not just going to be like, you know what?
Just get it out there tomorrow.
He probably did say that initially.
And then they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Listen, sir, sir, sir, sir, sir.
Hold on a second.
We don't want to people jump it off buildings.
If you're the head of any of these organizations, you're going to come in and be like,
okay, how do we, if we want to share this information with the general public, how do we share
it in a manner that doesn't create mass chaos or panic?
Exactly.
And the answer is to trickle feed it so that by the time you're getting to these astounding things
like spaceships or aliens in captivity, you've been primed over the last year or two years
or six months or whatever that something like this is coming and it's not going to shut down
and create mass hysteria.
And destroy religion, which is something
many government platforms
are based on. A couple of things there. First of all,
you're exactly right. And that's been said
out loud by some people like
Hal Poodoff, who's like one of the respected
people in Ufology.
That's not a term. Well, he's like a scientist.
Anyways, and there's other people that have said
that. And you can see
that that's what's happening since 2017.
But it makes sense. You don't want
to create just utter chaos.
especially, and I know I keep going back to this,
when you consider the religious element of it.
Well, so there's been, there has been,
and I don't know if this is confirmed or not,
but there's been either speculation or true evidence
of supposedly people in whatever,
like, you know, fucking the CIA or whatever three-letter agencies
have been preparing, like, religious institutions
to be able to explain this into,
their what's it called
paradigm of thinking
you know like so for Catholics like
oh well God's created you humans
of the Pope like they probably
Right he's created many other lives
And by the way the Vatican has known about aliens
since the 30s dude
There's
There's in 1936
fucking Italy had a crash retrieval
That when before Hitler
Before they team you know they became the
Axis in powers in World War II
There was a
a plan and it was successful where that craft that Italy had was given to the Vatican and then
the U.S. went and got that craft from the Vatican and brought it back to the U.S.
That is on record under under, you know, subpoenaed testimony from what was the guy who did
the 2023 in front of Congress?
David, not David Craver.
Yeah, David Grush.
Yeah.
So he talked about that.
And then I just want to say one more quick thing because we forgot to mention it.
about the girl's name, if you want to look that up, is...
Sorry, the woman who did the space junk prior to satellite.
Her name is Beatriz Villa Roel from Stockholm University, and we missed, like, a couple
very important points.
So...
In point.
Sorry, I get very excited.
Very important.
My speech gets messed up.
But so she did that study, found that information, like, basically confirmed that
those were metallic objects.
And then they went on to confirm.
affirm that there was a statistical connection between the flashes and early atmospheric nuclear
weapons tests.
So the flashes were 68% more likely to occur the day after a nuclear test.
And also, the research found that the number of the flashing lights increases by an average
of 8.5% for every report of an UAP during that period.
So statistically different and verified.
So let me break this down for a sec.
So early Apollo missions, first trips to the moon, some of our most famous astronauts go,
hey, there's stuff up here I can't explain.
There's flashing lights.
There's an orb moving towards the moon.
Later that year, another mission lands on the moon.
They go, hey, something I can't explain up here.
There's stuff shooting off of the moon.
I assume between then being 1979 and 2023, there are numerous other things that we haven't touched on.
Yeah, 160 documents.
You know, and you, we've talked on the pod before about the orb thing and the stuff that they've seen that disappear from the fighter jets and all these things.
Then in 2023, there's an orange orb that's 200 feet across or so shooting.
No, 50 feet.
Sorry, 50 feet across shooting out little red orbs that allegedly nobody filmed.
Which, by the way, I forgot to mention, you could see through because they could see the stars that were behind it.
They could still see them through the orbs.
That's interesting.
So then there's this orange.
orb phenomenon that has these red orbs shooting off of it. Where is this taking us? So timeline-wise,
from 2023, what do we have now? I think by 2030 we'll have full disclosure that the phenomenon
is 100% real and maybe more. They have tons of information. They know a lot. They have special,
they've been tracking this for 80 years. Yeah, of course. There's whole departments of government.
I think evolving technology. I think that your theory is right in that they're like,
Let's drip stuff out.
Yeah.
And I wouldn't start with something that's going to, like, make people question, you know, their religion.
Right.
Let's start with just, like, some interesting stuff.
The rumor is that sometime in July, there's going to be, like, whatever the big one is.
There's a rumor that that's coming in July, I think, like, July 8th or something.
Yeah, baby, let's do it.
So could, could that be official documents?
showing that they did autopsies on other life forms, I don't know, or that they maybe just a craft.
Maybe I think that the likeliest scenario is that nobody fucking knows.
Yeah.
What any of this stuff is that we have no idea.
Right.
And that it's just proof that we're just looking at all this shit that we can't understand.
That makes sense.
what in the fuck is this stuff that's flying around what in the fuck is this stuff that's underneath the ocean right i mean
i just saw a thing that off the coast of according to these satellite images off the coast of california
there's several thousand within like uh within 500 miles of the shore um there's several thousand
large metallic objects oh i saw that dude yeah in the ocean yeah that we don't know what the
fuck they are. And so I think there's just like there's a lot of shit going on. We don't know what it is.
And we may never know. And I think it's incredibly likely that we just couldn't even understand it if we were, you know, I think the idea that there's a little green man inside is still probably less likely. Right. Then just that there's like some sort of dimensional thing or time travel. Like just something that's so far beyond our interpretation of like time being linear.
Life being carbon-based, right?
And that we live in a three-dimensional universe.
It's probably outside of that.
And it goes back to my analogy at the beginning of this pod where we are ants.
And imagine you're an ant and you know all these other ants and you live in an ant colony
and you look up in a human being walks by.
And I know that ants don't have the cognition to comprehend this.
But like, you're like, what the fuck is that?
And it's got headphones on.
It's listening to music and it's looking at its watch and it's fucking texting on its iPhone.
You know what I mean?
And you just, you don't know what any of that is because you know your ant colony and you know other ants.
Like we are the ants in this scenario.
And it doesn't matter how many years you're an ant scientist for you.
You're probably never going to understand what that thing is.
Well, let me give you my take.
It's a little bit different just because I've done, I've, you know, I've been into it for a really long time.
Grailians.
No.
I mean, I don't.
Grillionian.
I will say this, you know, I don't think that being the warring chimpanzees that we are, we have not attempted to.
try and take one of these down.
And whether we were successful or not,
there's some evidence that we were successful
with something called Blue Gill Triple Prime.
You should look it up.
There's a video where it's pretty evident
that we were able to knock.
We sent a, I don't know if it was a dummy nuke
or a real nuke up into the atmosphere
because, I mean, and the story is to,
to, you know, lure a UFO
because they knew that UFOs would always not allow
the nukes to go up into space.
And then, so a UFO comes up to this rocket, zaps it on four sides.
Rocket goes down out of space.
And then they had learned that they could knock out the UFOs with EMPs, I believe,
or some other technology that they had.
And they knock, they, they lured it.
And they boom, they knocked it out of space.
And it fell into the ocean and was retrieved by, I forget, like the operations of naval
special.
But again, these are not declassified official documents.
Correct.
However, I want to get my, I'm talking about what my theory is about what we actually know.
Sorry, but you did doglegget.
So what I'm talking about, I'm talking about why I think that.
What is the source of this bluegill triple, like, is this, I don't know, wacky conspiracy theory?
It's not.
No, it's not.
It's an official video.
It was, I mean, it was, I mean, it was a four-hour podcast.
I just want to separate what, like, what we have been talking.
about from this. Yeah, yeah, you can separate this. This is something you would have to go look on your own
along with the space light thing study. But anyways, my point is my theory is that we, being the warring
chimps that we have, we have attempted to try and figure this out. Like, there's no way that
they have not been working on trying to figure this out. They want this fucking technology. They want
to understand how to do this. I just think we're too insignificant. It's possible. I agree. I don't know
that they have done it.
But I will say, like, I do not think they've just been sitting on their hands, not trying to fucking figure this out.
Well, one thing we didn't even talk about was prior to the Apollo missions.
Yeah.
195, one of the documents that was released was a summary of basically a bunch of high-level meetings that were had in D.C., you know, among all the most important people, that laid out what the plan will be once we have contact.
Oh, really?
Man, I didn't see that one.
The most important people in the U.S. federal government sat down and laid out a framework of how we will undergo diplomatic relations with off-planet entities.
That's pretty cool.
So that's interesting that they took the time to do that.
Exactly.
That's not sweeping it to the side.
Do you know what I mean?
If you're bringing in all the heads.
Like they tell us they are.
Right.
But if you're bringing in all the heads, the most powerful people in the world to say, what do we do if and when you?
these things contact us.
Here's how we handle it.
That means it's being taken seriously.
That right there already tells you that they know that the phenomena at least is real.
They might not know what it is, but they're like, oh shit.
Like we better figure out what we're going to do when this happens.
Everything in life comes full circle.
I stand by that, right?
Everything comes back to how we started.
You know, fucking skinny jeans are out now and baggy jeans from the 90s are back, right?
Yeah.
That's a silly analogy.
I don't want to get my point.
genes in our next pod.
No, never.
But do you think that, let's say by 2030 to whichever one of your point that we've now
divulged all the information to the Earth's populace, do you think that maybe that actually
comes back around on us?
And that explains lost civilizations.
That explains God.
That explains the man in the sky.
That explains heaven.
Do you know what I mean?
And there's some sort of correlation to all.
all these things. Jesus wasn't a, I'm making this up, I don't want people to get offended.
Jesus was an alien. He did have powers. The man in the sky that sits in the clouds was some
kind of other being, otherworldly being that's been here at a different time and space.
No, I'll just say no, because I don't think, I think we're pro, it's to be sound weird,
but I think whatever created us has programmed us to never be able to figure it all out.
Because if we figure out the, the purpose of everything, the purpose of life, everything, like, what it, what then?
That's very matrixy of you.
You would never, we would never stop wondering.
I don't even think if it was, how could you ever validate like that yes, this is the answer and believe that 100%?
Like, we're just not built that way.
You would constantly be curious, wanting to know more and never satisfied.
Because that's how we're built.
I mean, if you ask me, though, like, what is the purpose?
It's a cold beer and a lady a money.
It's all about coming back into yourself.
But before we go, though.
Well, no, but I just, I had a big rant a few years ago on this podcast about how dumb the Big Bang theory is and how much I hate.
I remember that.
Fucking smug.
You went crazy over that.
Yeah, well, because people are smug.
They are.
If you go, well, the Big Bang theory is not real.
You're wrong.
Yeah.
They're like, when they've only read the headline of it, when they've only read the headline of it.
Are you an idiot?
Yeah, they don't actually know anything about it.
It's like, dude, it's clearly wrong.
I've said it a bunch of times, but like, I believe genuinely, it's the, us trying to understand what's happening in the universe and the size and scope of it is the equivalent of being like, hey, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you 10 years to teach that aunt.
how to get a 1600 on the SAT.
Right.
It's just like it's never,
that you could take an infinite amount of time.
You can never teach an aunt how to ace the math section of the SATs.
Right.
Yeah.
We don't have the,
we don't have enough going on up here.
To understand it.
We don't,
we're not part of the deal.
Right.
No.
It's just fucking crazy.
And it just makes me so insane that the same people who you're like,
you tell them about the orb thing.
Yeah.
And they go,
where's the video and pictures?
Well, then I don't care.
Right.
Are the same ones who just know that the Big Bang theory is definitely right.
Right, right.
I don't think it makes me so angry.
I don't tell.
We think we know everything.
This is going to sound really weird, but I don't, I think to be able to understand what's going on, it's not a thinking thing.
It's like a consciousness thing.
So like people.
So you got to do shrooms.
Absolutely.
Or DMT.
All right.
But anyways, I want to wrap up on one final thing.
go to the last folder in the drive called the Gemini 16.
So Gemini 16, there's a, I put,
12, I get,
12, oh 12, sorry, I thought it was 16.
Anyways, Gemini 12, correct, corrected.
He has no idea how to open the file.
So, oh, it's a Google Doc.
That's a video.
That's a video.
Not the GIF.
Stop, that's where the spots that you should play from the video.
I broke, well, AI broke down.
So what is this, Gemini 12?
Is this from the more the declassified?
files? Yes. So this is Gemini 12.
You don't know this one. It's Gemini 12. What is Gemini 12? I mean I I all I, I've only listened to
this audio and I wanted to end with some audio because we just been talking about transcripts.
This is a this is real audio and Kyle's going to play it. So let's just listen and go to the
points in here where I pointed out. That's great. Can't open it. Can't open it.
Well, he tries to figure that out. He's got it. All right. So actually, you can
Play the beginning.
Play the very beginning.
So, sorry, can you give me a little context as to what this is?
He's going to explain it in the beginning.
Just play the very beginning.
I'm assuming it's a space mission, Gemini.
It must be.
Just listen.
Shall we control here again?
Nope.
Earlier in the flight, you recall, at the start of the Second Revolution, we had a reference
to several objects that the crew spotted.
This was in the area of Antigua.
due to a mechanical breakdown, we did not have that portion of the tape available for you.
This was a line breakdown between Building 30 and our news center, Building 6.
This guy's a dick.
Since then, we have dubbed the tape off the master tape here in the control center.
He's explaining what this is.
We are now prepared to play it for you.
That's it.
That's all you mean.
references to citing not only some particles, but as well as an unidentified object, plus the booster.
Here's that tape.
I'll play it for you now.
Now go to the spot.
So just real quick, what is Gemini 7?
12, and I still don't know either.
Gemini 12 is another space mission, but I want to know when this is from.
All right, let me find it.
I'm going to use AI just because I don't.
All I do is listen to this.
All right.
2025.
Oh, wow.
I didn't know that.
The first of the Gemini 12 mission was to find a test new ways to work outside.
I did?
Wait, hold on.
What is Gemini 12?
It's not brutal.
Stop.
It's Gemini fucking whatever.
Who cares?
Just play the audio of the transcript.
That's the important part.
We'll look it up and put it in the description to clarify what it is.
Gemini 12 is a space mission.
Space mission?
A space mission.
Okay.
Let's hear what we need.
Great.
Edit this all out.
Say again, seven.
A bogey in space.
Roger.
Roger.
Okay.
Imagine just being on the other end of that and a spaceship says we have a bogey.
You're like, do you, do you, just like, Roger?
Do you know how to use the guns?
Is there a second part to that?
There's got to be more, right?
Let's keep listening.
There you go.
He's got several bogeys.
Boosters in sight when the bogeys are in sight.
That's cool.
I think check the transcript for other times.
Three four miles away.
Understand they were about three to four miles away.
Pause for a sec.
It's funny because whoever they're talking to,
their entire job is to focus on the safety of the astronauts.
Yeah.
Isn't it weird that they're just not like,
what the fuck is it?
Yeah, they're not really digesting that there's something else up there.
They probably are trained.
They know what's up.
Like, we see shit out there all the time.
Maybe.
It's probably just a protocol as, you know, just focus on X.
Stick to the facts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is there any more?
Yeah.
Gemini cells in addition to the booster and the...
This is the unidentified object in addition to particles which appear to be headed in a polar orbit you heard Frank Blas, Jim Lowell discussing the...
So...
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's just interesting.
I think in general, it's just like we're sending missions into space and incredibly trained people are just like, yeah, there's other shit flying around, man.
So it says here the crew describes seeing a brilliant body surrounded by hundreds or...
trillions of small particles that appeared to be moving intelligence, intelligently.
So I don't know if we heard that, but that's a quote here from AI.
Gemini 7, by the way, December 1965.
I wanted to just end the pod with like some actual audio because we just talked about
transcript.
No, it's interesting.
I mean, so here's what I take away as the complete layman in this scenario.
There's stuff out there we can't explain.
I think anybody that's rational agrees that there is other life.
in the universe.
Earth is not the anomaly in the entire galaxy universe of life.
There's stuff that we can't explain.
There's a good chance that the government,
the world governments are slowly leaking out information
so that we're not so blindsided
by the official announcement of extraterrestrial life
that it creates complete global chaos.
And we're doing this in amongst so much other global chaos
and news that it is going somewhat unnoticed by the masses.
That's what I've taken away.
from all of this. You like the specifics. Patrick's very intrigued by all. I get that. I'm interested,
but I think I represent the mass in going, well, that's cool, but I haven't really learned anything
that makes me change an opinion that I currently have. So I'll just say this. Is that fair?
I mean, I'm not trying to be negative about it. Yeah, no, no, I'll just say this. So my take,
and the only, like, it's kind of, it's not what we typically do on the podcast, but I just thought it
was important because I don't even know if people know that this is there.
I didn't.
Like go to war.
Gov slash UFO and look for yourself.
Like we talked about five things.
There's 160 with more coming, dude.
Like, just go look.
Put it in AI.
Look at AI.
Ask AI about it.
And like just learn, man.
I mean, because the world is, the universe is a lot fucking bigger and a lot
different than what we're led to believe.
And that's all I'll say on that.
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