Wild Times: Wildlife Education - Will Forrest Find More Extinct Animals? - The Wild Times Ep. 112

Episode Date: February 20, 2023

This week we discuss Forrest's upcoming expeditions, some of Madagascar's coolest creatures and what Forrest would do if he had another crack at Extinct or Alive.   Visit https://thewildtimespodc...ast.com/ now!  Get your Wild Times Podcast merch: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/merch   Leave a review on iTunes Apple Podcast: https://thewildtimespodcast.com/itune...   Get Up To 4 Bonus Podcasts Per Month ▶▶ https://www.patreon.com/wildtimespod Subscribe to The Wild Times Podcast on YouTube ▶▶ https://www.youtube.com/@WildTimesPod Watch More Episodes Here ▶▶ https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP...   Follow The Wild Times Podcast on socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildtimespod/   TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wildtimespod   Twitter: https://twitter.com/WildTimesPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wildtimespod/  Enjoy, brosteners!   TWT 112 - The Breakdown   00:00 - Intro  01:56 - Forrest's Next Adventure  16:35 - What's In The News?  22:25 - Patrick Had To Leave Madagascar To Save A Crew Member  30:29 - Madagascar's Coolest Animals 43:01 - If Extinct or Alive Returned  49:33 - Battle Royale  56:55 - Outro   https://www.newbelgium.com/beer/fat-tire/  #podcast #wildtimespod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you could do one more extinct or alive, what animal? That's a great question. You want the honest answer? No, I want a lie. Okay, well, the lie is... Wild Times. We're back. We're never cool music.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Not dead yet. Egghead. Still living. Egghead. I have a beautiful head. Silly face. All right. The awkwardness is for the end.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Yeah, let's save it. Sorry. All right. Well, welcome back. This is the Wild Times episode number. 112. Ridiculous. We are in the studio,
Starting point is 00:00:34 which is Peter's living room. Yep. Formal living room. Drinking some tasty, Fat Tire. Cheers, mate. Salude. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Criot. Crisp, fresh, refreshing. Cheers to Fat Tire. Official sponsor of the Wild Times Pod. It's pretty big. I got my nice little beanie coozy here.
Starting point is 00:00:50 These things are sweet, dude. Yeah, it's nice. They treat you all right, mate. That. Well, there's a lot going on, man. We haven't done the intros. Just shit. Go.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah, do it. Do it. I'm your host, Horace Galante, the broologist, joining me on my left, the not at all sickly, queasy, or strange. Mr. Strange, for sure. Peter. Ph.D. in podcasting, the brofessor Rattap.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yep. Glad to be here. Happy. Happy you guys are in-house. Thanks for him. Always fun. We got some new mic stands. We're getting real profash here.
Starting point is 00:01:24 My dog's stiffing his ass on camera. He just got a mohawk. Haircut. Doing good. Yeah. You guys. Great. Very well, thanks.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And as always, on his left, looking particularly dapper with his beanie pulled as far back as his hairline will allow. Kind of like, you know, it's just what the kids are doing. It's what the kids are doing. Yeah. The one and only producer, Patrick DeLuca. Hey, man. How are you? Great.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah. I mean, it's a good day to be alive, right? We're here. It's a good day to be alive. Always a good day to be alive. You know, we're about to, you're about to go on a big. trip. I got a trip coming up. You're going to Vegas, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah, it's just me and Kyle, just going to shoot a little something. He's nine years old. What are you going to do with him? He's filming. He's not. He's not gambling, not boozing. All right, good. It's not going to be as fun as tromping around South Africa looking for sharks. Yeah, South Africa is up first. I got two back to back. South Africa first,
Starting point is 00:02:19 followed by Australia. The spotting we're going to Australia is actually probably number one bucket list place for me to go. So Kyle's shaking his head because he doesn't get to go. He's so upset. I do feel sorry for him. Can you say where in Australia? Yeah, fuck it. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Where? Kyle, let's go ahead and pull it up, X-Mouth. X-Mouth Australia. If you're listening, you can see this on the Wild Times YouTube channel. It is just an incredible diving location. It's basically the Baja of Australia. It's like desert with crystal blue waters and crazy, crazy marine life. And specifically, Nigaloo Reef, Kyle, if you can Google Nigaloo Reef,
Starting point is 00:02:56 where we're going to be doing a lot of diving. What kind of, what's the wildlife situation there? Insane. Yeah? Wow, look at that. Like 20 plus species of shark, 20 plus species of sea snake, highest density of sea snakes in the world, whale sharks, mantrases. Wow. I mean, just crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Like just blue, blue water. Yeah, look at that. Water. Yeah, I mean, it looks real nice. So where is that in relation to the Great Barrier Reef? Off the coast. Oh. Coast.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah. We're on the West Coast, basically halfway between Perth. and Darwin. Got it. So this is like what I've heard you mentioned before in conversation.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It's like a bucket list item for you. Big time. Yeah, big time. I mean, I, like, I always enjoy Australia, but I've wanted to go
Starting point is 00:03:38 to Nigaloo to the reef and to Carl Bay and Exmouth for a very long time. You know, it's been made famous by Brody Moss. Do you know he is? Youngbloods spearfishing
Starting point is 00:03:49 on Instagram? Have you seen him? Patrick? No, we don't consume as much spearfishing content as you do. Look, he's got four million subscribers.
Starting point is 00:03:57 spearfishing content. Why isn't he on this podcast? Good question. Well, he just does a lot of really cool adventures, but he lives there. And the town there, Carl Bay, I mean, people that listen to this are going to get upset. But it's like 200 and 300 people. It's tiny. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yeah, it's a tiny little place. And he obviously lives there and, you know, it just films all this great stuff. And it just looks insane. So really excited for that. Yeah. I mean, it looks crazy. Man, I have never been to a place that is. is anything like this with just like the pristine.
Starting point is 00:04:30 The water there? Look at that town. It's such like a tiny little town. That's the whole thing. Wow. I would go swimming every day. That's why we're doing. Water's warm.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Water's warm there? Yeah. Yeah. Warm, clear. All kinds of cool critters. I'm very, very excited. And before that, South Africa, we're studying endemic sharks. You know, looking at a bunch of different small native species, some big ones.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So yeah, it's going to be a busy spring for sure. Yeah, man. Nice to get in here with you, boys. Yeah, dude. It's mate. So we won't see you then for like three months after this or what? Pretty much, yeah. The audience will.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah, you'll be here. Right. Virtual. Virtually. Yeah, exactly. Did you ever go to the Witt Sundays? I have been to the Witt Sundays. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's amazing. Yeah. When you went there, did they let you swim? Yeah. Okay. Because when I went there, there was a box jellyfish bloom. Oh, shit. And they were very nervous about swimming.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I hopped in, but they were like, get out. Yeah. No, yeah. We were. We were good to go. Yeah. Couldn't swim off Fraser Island. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:31 The tiger sharks. Too many tiger sharks of crocodiles. Yeah. That sounds like crocs there? Yeah. Didn't even know that. Big salties coming out of that region. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:38 The Witt Sundays is wonderful. Yeah. Like definitely like it was part of like a spring break trip. Right. I was in Australia. Right. You're right. You're studying abroad there.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I'm studying abroad. But it's like part of this trip or on a bus, whatever. Then you get on a sailboat. You live aboard for like three or four days and just like cruise the Wits Sunday Island. which I'd never heard of. Yeah. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:05:59 It's like the best thing I did there. Yeah, pretty unbelievable. Do you like go snorkeling and shit? Yeah, you just jump off the boat, you just drink booze, you stop at these islands. It's all white sand beaches and pristine waters. It's pretty nice. It's much more tropical than where we just looked at.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Like, we were looking at blue and Xmouth. That's desert. That's outback meets ocean. With Sundays is like lush, green, tropical, white, white sand. I mean, it's very iconic. Wow, that's beautiful. It's just like a shitload of islands that look like that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 So what would you do, Kyle? There's a famous video. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's Brody Moss's video of, I think it's an elegant sea snake swimming up to a guy on a paddleboard. Just type that in, like sea snake paddleboard. Like an elegant, like it did it elegantly? Very elegantly. Yeah, it was very, very beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah, here you go. That first video right here. What would you do in this situation? I'm curious, Peter. What would you think of this? How big is that thing? Probably four feet. long?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Oh my God. There you go. Look at this. It is bro. He like waves it in. Knowing that that one bite of that has enough venom to kill around a thousand people. Even not knowing that?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Like, what are your thoughts on? He's on like a just a paddle board. Yep. Oh my God, dude. That is fucking crazy. It came and just gave him a look. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I was thinking about crawling up, you know, to get out of the water for a minute and saw him and was like, nah, it's not it. Um, I would have probably used my paddle to. You would have flipped out. I'm not like any more scared of snakes than the normal person, but that's a weird interaction. But you're pretty awkward in the ocean, to be honest. I've seen you very comfortable in a lot of settings, and I've never seen you less comfortable than in the ocean. I'm not a good ocean fair.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Didn't you take him like at night into the ocean? What were you doing? And during the day, and around. No, I'm a bad ocean guy. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not comfortable. I mean, honestly, if that, I would never be in that situation, knowing that those snakes are in the water. Like the fact that that snake just trailed off and went back under the water is more terrifying than me knowing where it's at by my fucking paddle.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Right. Right. I didn't realize they were super venomous like that. Yeah. Yeah. Terrible. What's their aggression like? Are they aggressive?
Starting point is 00:08:13 So it's interesting. I've been talking to this guy, Brian Fry, he's a really fascinating guy. He's a scientist on the east coast of Australia. He's probably the world's leading, like, toxicologist when it comes to see snake venom or at least, or certain snake venoms. Um, and I was always under the, because I've worked with banded sea crates and yellow belly sea snakes, which are two different species to what we just saw. Yeah. I, they're both very, very like, the banded sea crates, you like pick them up, play with them and they just do nothing. And I was talking about sea snakes with Brian Fry. And he's like, oh, no, no, no, like do not
Starting point is 00:08:47 approach. I forget which species he was saying. He's like, they will like, they have, they have actual aggression, not defensiveness, like actual aggression. Yeah. And so, yeah, apparently. And, and, and, the nuances of those sea snakes, too, like the olive, the elegant and some of the beaked and stuff, they pretty much all look the same. For sure. And so it's like, yeah, you just have to really know because apparently some of them will just chow on you instantly.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Or just stay the fucking from every single kind of one of them. That doesn't sound like me, does it now? Dude, I mean, it... Well, you might not be able to help it either, right? If you're going to be in the water every day. Listen, here's the problem again, reflecting back if it was me. Say I fall off the paddleboard and the snake's coming up, which I would.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'd fall off the paddleboard when it's coming up. Probably. I'd be flailing about in the water and if it's aggressive, it's going to think I'm trying to attack it when really I'm just trying to swim away. Probably. I'm dead. I'm a dead man. You're a dead man swimming. Forrest told us a story on one of the bonus pods about
Starting point is 00:09:40 Jewfish when he was out in the water that came in eight, basically ate up to his dick on his leg. That's how I said it. That is how I said it. How insane is this guy is going to fuck it? He just goes in the water where there's snakes and crocodiles. You're insane. The most dangerous thing
Starting point is 00:09:56 you will do on this entire trip. Thanks, Charlie. I don't continue once I've been interrupted by a dog. The most dangerous thing you'll probably do is like the ride from the airport in Cape Town though. For sure. Yeah. Landing in Johannesburg International
Starting point is 00:10:15 Airport is the most dangerous part of this trip. Yes. You all have like armed guards, right? No. Who the fuck do you think I am? I'm not the president. Not you armed guards. You don't travel with armed guards? When you guys went, you had like security when you guys go out there. and shit. That's true. They're unarmed.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah. Oh, they're not armed? No. No. Fucking do kung fu or something? Pretty much. Yes, actually. What? No, they just kind of keep an eye out. You can't just like bring like an assault rifle with you. I didn't know. I was hoping. I mean, that's fair. We had that we had the armed, we had the armed military guards the one time in Madagascar. That's true. That's the time when we went to Singi. But that was when every single per, like convoy that went up there was being murdered. Jesus. Yeah. You guys are.
Starting point is 00:10:59 nuts. Not us, though. So what are you doing in Vegas? Anything? It's just a little developed, sizzle. You try to sell the show. You out there for like a day, too? I think Kyle and I are going to go out for a full weekend, man. Nice. A couple days shoot. Hopefully sell the show. Probably not. Probably not. You're going to do some partying. What's that that drink you like? Oh, my Vegas drink. You're Vegas drink. Harvey Wallbang. Harvey Wallbanger. Yeah. Have you ever had one, Kyle? You're going to. You only drink them in Vegas, so we'll get, we'll get, we'll get a couple one over there.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's fantastic. Vodka, orange juice, Gagliano, which is an anise-flavored liqueur. So black licorish? And it just, it just blends together and it just tastes like a party. You sure you want to do that and not just like 30 white Russians in the Vegas sun? Yeah. I made the mistake once of drinking a whole night of martini espressoes or espresso martinis in Vegas. God.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Ridiculous. Yeah. Terrible. You drink 10 of those. No good. No good, dude. It's too much fluff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah. Yeah, it was a nightmare. God, Coke. What a nightmare. That's going to be fun. I mean, that part of Australia looks amazing. It does. What part of Africa are you gone?
Starting point is 00:12:14 So we'll be in South Africa. First, we're going up to St. Lucia. Right. Do some fishing. And then from there, we're going to go over to... See what St. Lucia looks like. Yeah, it's very pretty. And then a lot of hippos.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Really? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of... of hippos and stagious. That's where there's that iconic famous footage of the hippo, the bull shark and the
Starting point is 00:12:35 Niall crocodile altogether. Yeah. That was in the bay in St. Lucia. Wow, that looks beautiful. Yeah, look that one. Go back, Kyle, where the hippos in town. That's like a regular site there. Hippos in town. It could be like a good movie. Isn't that wild? Dude, what are you just fucking carrying elephant gun with you if you live in this town? They're just like pretty used to people. Oh, it's just walking up to a lady. Yeah, apparently.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, because Shit. I mean, that's different than like the hippos that you encountered in South Africa. These are ones that are around people.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I mean, look, you still don't want to go like chewing them. Right. But they're used to people and people are used to them and they just keep their distance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I was watching a video of this zookeeper feeding a hippo the other day. Okay. And I was really surprised that, you know, it opens its mouth. She's putting some sort of like cantalope or something in there.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. And she reaches in to place it on the tongue and, you know, but like reaches in, dude. Yeah. And like, places it on the tongue and then just like casually pulls her arm out and then it just chombed down. Yeah, there was a famous one. Her name was like Sarah or something. It had like a very generic woman's name.
Starting point is 00:13:40 That was a hand-raised hippo in South Africa. People used to go. My sister went and like play with it and feed it and hand it, you know. It's just, yeah, it's just different, right? It's like Siegfried and Roy had those lions and tigers and stuff, but you don't go walking around with tigers in the bush. you know, it's like, true.
Starting point is 00:13:56 They have, and raised. One of them got fucked eventually by the tiger, though, I'm pretty sure. I think you got beat up, not fucked by it. Yeah, it didn't, it didn't rape them. I said,
Starting point is 00:14:04 I did see a documentary on YouTube or something one time where there's a family of hippos that these people, like, raised or something. The hippos were out in the wild on the river, but they would come back in and, and like, come and hang out at the house and shit.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And it's pretty, like, disconcerting to be, like, a hippo will either kill, you? Like, it could just kill you immediately. Not a trustworthy animal. It is not. Well, like you say, their whole lives are, they're very skittish, meager. Yeah. Meager. Migger. Call it. They're not meager. Look how casual she is with her hand. She wasn't even looking. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that hippo is used to being fed. It's used to it. Notice the very thick bars between her and
Starting point is 00:14:45 the hippo. Yeah. Yeah. That's not. I mean, there was a guy who was riding his hippo and shit. We got killed by it. Wait, people are reading. Yeah, we did. We did a daily video. I've never touched a hippo. What do they feel like? Caressing the hippo? I've never, one's touched me, but I've never touched the hippo either, so I don't know the answer. That just feels like a bad idea. Yeah. Yeah, but that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And look how cute the babies are. They're such crazy animals. That's like a 400-pound baby animal. Yep. Hey, guys, if you're enjoying it. Whoops. One more time. Guys, if you like The Wild Times, check us out on Patreon.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We put out four extra podcasts per month. That's one commute a week that you're just going to be laughing and learning the whole time. the car. I don't know. Let me do something else. This is the late night content, stuff that we can't show on, on YouTube because they'll kick us off YouTube. It's the cinemax of podcasts. Uncensored, raw dog. It's the cinemax of podcasts. Check it out. Link right here. But yeah, yeah, armed guards. What? What I mean, I was, I just think that. Would you go, if, if I said, all right, Peter, you're coming with. You're just going to be like a hangout buddy trip,
Starting point is 00:15:59 but you have to do exactly what I say. Would you do it? No, of course not. He doesn't want to be told what to do. No, but I mean, I'm assuring you that I'll keep you safe, but I'm going to make you do terrible things. No, I mean, I've heard when you guys took Mitch out to wherever the fuck that was and you made him, what was he?
Starting point is 00:16:16 He was taking some kind of shot out of... Oh, on Bourbon Street. Yeah, the Bourbon Street, and he had to sit in like a chair and you got it. And didn't he get lost or Justin got lost and stranded in the streets? That whole night was something. Like they're safe, like you say, but it's still not a good thing. It's not a good thing. Did you guys see that, should we do What's in the News?
Starting point is 00:16:38 I think so. Yes. What's in the news? What is in the news? Did you guys see that they discovered 35 new species of fish? No. Who did? Pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So they did a survey in a Bolivian National Park. and it's one thing to discover a new species of fish. They did a survey of the freshwater in this Bolivian National Park found 35 new species. Now, are these like little tiny fish, like the size of a... Yes. Okay. I mean, it's still cool. But it's still really cool. I mean, to find that many new species in one area.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And there's really unique and interesting stuff, right? Like elephant fish with the long trunk, the small mouths, like electric eels and a lot of different species of catfish, because catfish, like, there's just thousands of species of catfish. I don't know. Just thought it was. So this is like, this is in a national park in Bolivia, is this adjacent to the Amazon? It would be part of the tributaries for the Amazon.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Bolivia is very, very high up on my list. There's a place called Simani Lodge, where they, basically all they do is fly fishing for Golden Dorado. Do you know what Golden Dorado is? Or snot.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Well, that's okay. I mean, if you're into fly fishing and sport fishing, this thing. Wow. This thing's very high off of my list. This is a freshwater fish. How the fuck do you catch that fly fishing? I mean, I've never been fly fishing, but don't you just whip it in and whip it out? When you catch the fish, do you rip the fish back?
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's like so many bad questions. No, so first of all. Whip it out. So you just whipped them out onto the shore. Oh, my God. You do throw the fly based on the weight of the line, but then you let it sit on. the water. It acts like, you know, there's a fish or a minnow or a bug or something on the surface of the water. And then the current makes the line move. Yeah. Oh, that's why they call it fly fishing.
Starting point is 00:18:32 There you go. But yeah, so those Golden Dorado, they're the closest living relative of the tiger fish, of which when I was a little kid, for a very short period of time, I had the junior world record, which are native to Zimbabwe and basically nowhere else, which is why it's not that impressive. But yeah. And so next highest fish on my list to catch is those Golden Dorado. Are they like good eaten? Or are they, you release? Catch and release? I don't know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That's okay. Are they, is it really catch and release? Yeah. Oh, wow. Are they rare? The Golden Dorado. Yeah. They're, they're, they're not rare.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They just don't occur in a very large area. They're hard to catch and they're incredibly powerful. They just go absolutely nuts when you hook one. Okay. So it's a big challenge to catch one on a fly and land it. And that Simani, Lodge place I was talking about. It just looks incredible. It's in these crystal clear rivers in Bolivia with like these big boulders and these rapids and you're like wling a fly and you see these
Starting point is 00:19:31 Golden Dorado like launch at the fly and go like five feet in the air. That's so interesting because like I've never thought of it's never even been in my radar of like this would be a cool place to go take a trip. Yeah. It's up there for me. Interesting. You know I changed my answer. I might go on a trip with you all expenses paid for the podcast filmed to like some beautiful place like that and do well these are all beautiful place that's what i'm saying right but if we go to bolivia on that trip i just mentioned i'm going to get an anaconda and put it in your bed oh well no no but it's an all expensive never mind no no well i mean i guess if you film it because it's for the brosners for the yeah all right what else we got on the news so yeah i just like that discovery there was all kinds of stuff
Starting point is 00:20:17 migratory catfish. It's cool. A lot of fish to be found. This was pretty interesting. They released an article in Science Daily that echidnas, you know, a kidniz from Australia, a little spiky animal. Yeah, yeah. Blow bubbles to keep cool. Ooh. Okay. Yeah. I thought this was pretty funny. Like, whose bubbles? How does this work? How does this keep them cool? So apparently by blowing bubbles out of their noses, the evaporative process, like the same is like when you get out of the shower and it's evaporating off your skin cools them down. And so when it's really hot, you know, because they can't pant, they can't sweat like a dog, they blow these bubbles out of their nose and the evaporative mucus stuff coming off their nose cools down their body.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It cools down their blood really because, you know, your nose is full of blood vessels and, you know, yeah. So this is something they just discovered? Well, I just saw the article, but yeah, in Science Daily. But yeah, I don't know. I just thought it was really neat. Also, echinnas are basically the coolest animal there is. What else? The science, the article is saying that this may be a newer behavior. Hmm. Oh, so maybe they're
Starting point is 00:21:26 using to adapt to the climate getting warmer. Wow. Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah. All right. Might also just be involuntary, right? It's like, God, it's hot. Like sweating. Sure, sure, sure. What makes Akidna's so cool? Yeah. A spiky,
Starting point is 00:21:42 marsupial hedgehog that lays eggs. I mean, they are pretty cool. With like a two foot long tongue. Yeah, I mean, they're just bizarre. Yeah. It's like a porcupine. It's in the porcupine family? Negative.
Starting point is 00:21:54 No? Nope. Oh. They lay eggs. That's bizarre. Oh, so they have a pouch. Yeah, well, it's a monotream. It's not really a marsupial.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Oh, my God. So many things that are on there. It doesn't matter. They're different, Peter. They're different. Okay. They're built different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:11 No, that's cool. Did you see any when you were there in Australia? Yeah. Yeah. we found a kidnap. How big are they? They're like this big. The size of a softball.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. It's about right. Fucking pretty cute. I was there. Spiky critters. Yeah. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:22:27 remember when we were in Madagascar? We flipped over the logs. Oh, wait. That was after you left, I think. Oh, a lot of people don't know about that story. I feel like, have I probably told the story.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, I had to leave the first time we went early. Yeah. To go with someone who was dying on our crew. Yeah. To get medevacked out. Have you heard the story? I've heard it.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. I left and I missed a couple days of action. And it sucked too because we were in the most beautiful place in Madagascar. And someone needed to go with a dying female crew member. What happened to what, what, I'm not sure I know what happened to the person that had to be medevac.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Why did they have to be medevac? Had like 105 temperature for like three days. Tick bite fever, massive. Oh, so they got, it got bit by. by some yeah it was not good such a god got a bit a tick burrowed into her butt cheek when we were in zanzibar yep and then we went to madagascar and was getting worse and worse and then got really really really really sick yeah to the point where our medic said she needs to get hands in the air like pretty much yeah wasn't the best medics we've ever had either no wasn't there i mean wasn't
Starting point is 00:23:39 how was the medical care out there i mean wasn't good wasn't good you ended up up going to a hospital in johannisburg in johannis first in madagascar that was not great and then in johannisburg was probably the worst experience of my life and then uh and then was able to like weasel her onto a plane to get back to new york yeah where an ambulance picked us up at jfk yes and she went to the n yu medical center well wasn't it like in johanusberg and and madagascar they couldn't like figure out what it was Didn't know. And in Johannesburg, they didn't care. That was the thing.
Starting point is 00:24:18 They never really figured it out, right? In New York, I thought they weren't they able to... No, New York was a fucking weird situation too. I mean, by the time we got to New York, her family had come to meet. Yeah, sure. So she wasn't just with the executive producer of the show. Right, right. And so the family started getting involved.
Starting point is 00:24:36 But even that was a cluster fuck. Because one doctor came in and ordered a spinal tap. Then another doctor came in and was like, this is insane. Like, do not. She got a spinal tap? No. Because it got chained. Another doctor came in and was like, I heard they ordered her a spinal tap.
Starting point is 00:24:49 That's a bad idea. So it was really, really strange. Really strange. And stressful. But so they ended up, did she just get better? They finally gave her something that worked? Uh, yeah. So it was like an antibiotic.
Starting point is 00:25:03 That's what it was. What was that? Literal common antibiotic. Doxy. Doxycycline. Yeah. Which is like what you get when you have chlamydia or something. No, like.
Starting point is 00:25:13 She was one of the only crew members taking anti-malarial, and she was taking malarone. Yeah. We told everybody not to do. Yeah. So we advise anyone who wants to take it to take doxycycline. Right. And the travel clinics are like, no, no, take malarone.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah. They get paid more for like pushing. Exactly right. It's much more expensive. Yep. And doxies just as effective for malaria, but it's also effective for other shit. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Sure. General antibiotic. Yeah. So it was like an African. tick bite fever with a staff infection compounding it and yikes real gnarly she was sick for for a long time yeah but at the end of the
Starting point is 00:25:52 day if she was taking the doxy or whatever it would have been I have to imagine it would have been helpful because it would have to wipe it out yeah wow it was the infection that was probably the worst part of it yeah those anti-malarial pills I'm not taking them but I know some people who have they said it like can really fuck with your head and make you kind of go crazy
Starting point is 00:26:08 have I ever told my wife's story of being on maller no I don't think so oh my god this story's insane What's happening? So the first time I ever went to Madagascar, all these bad things happened in Madagascar. I know. We got to stop going to Madagascar. Yeah. First time I ever went to Madagascar, we went to Isolo National Park.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And, you know, I told my wife, so by the way, Mallorone, which is the medication that we're discussing. Yeah. About malarial medication, the lighter skin you are, the lighter complexion, you know, fairer you are, the more it seems to affect people. Oh, interesting. And the doctors tell you that. It's like, hey. And my wife's like, you're like. you know, she's like full blonde hair.
Starting point is 00:26:45 She's as pale as I am. Yeah. She's as pale as your shirt. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Very, very fair. And anyway, first time I went to Madagascar, we went to Isolo, and I was like, I'm not touching that stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I grew up without it, blah, blah, blah, blah. I grew up in a country with malaria. I'm not having it. And she's like, all right, well, doctor prescribed that I'm going to take the malarone. Yeah. And it compounds, right? So, like, you know, at first you don't feel anything. And then you start having weird dreams.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It, like, builds up in your system. And so we were like a week plus into the trip. and the worst cocktail is to like be dehydrated right as it always is have malarone and then be in the sun the sun exposure seems to amplify the effects of it yeah and so we went on this massive hike in iselow ran out of water like halfway through it was like the guy told us it was like a couple hours it was like a 14 mile hike it looked like we got there pre-dawn because we wanted to see the sunrise over isaolo and we got out after dark and it was a long amazing like loved it with skinny dipping and had these brown lemurs come and steal fruit from us.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Awesome, but like massive hike. And we get back to our very shitty hotel that night that was in the heart of like the, not rubies, what are the stones they've, anyway, it's like all these bandits. And it was like, we couldn't afford anything. We were super young and broke and everything. Yeah. And go to this terrible hotel that we're staying in no air conditioning.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Right. And in Madagascar, boiling hot. Sure. Go to bed. Everything's fine. Eat normal dinner. Go to bed. And in the middle of the night,
Starting point is 00:28:08 I just hear screaming. She's like, I wake up and I'm like, what's going on? Jessica, what's up? She's like, my skin is ripping off. I'm like, what are you talking about? She's sweating because it's boiling hot and her skin is sticking to the bed sheets.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But because she's had this malarone, this massive sun exposure and is probably dehydrated from the hike, her hallucinations are so vivid that they've overcome her lucid state. Wow. She is literally like losing her mind. And so she's like screaming. And at first I'm like super compassionate.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I'm like, Jess, you're okay, sweetie? Like I don't know what's going on, but everything's fine. And she's like, no, my skin is melting off. And like I like started like, this went on for hours. Like after like 15 minutes, I was like, Jessica, knock it off. Like there's nothing wrong with you. Like I don't know what's going on, but like stop it. And so eventually like after half an hour plus of this, she like gets out of bed.
Starting point is 00:29:03 She's like, my skin. She like runs into the shower. Yeah. This is in our shithole, like dirtbag, flea infested hotel, runs into the shower, turns the shower on cold and starts chugging water out of the shower in Madagascar. She's like hallucinating her skin's melting, blah, blah, blah. Not good. Imagine what happened the following like four days. You had Madagascar flu.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah, she got, she got Montezuma's revenge really bad. So she did not enjoy the rest of our time in Madagascar. And it was all a result of the Malarone. Like, the only reason she was chugging the water is because she was having the, this hallucination, her skin was falling. And, you know, she stopped it that day. She's like, I'm never touching that stuff. Did it go away, like, the next day where the hallucinations died down and she was good?
Starting point is 00:29:47 She sort of, like, came to in the shower and was like, okay, I'm okay. Like, my skin's okay, you know. And she was like, who, she was like super sweaty and everything. She's like, all right, I think I'm good and, like, went back to bed. Yeah. And was fine until basically the next night. And then it, like, all kicked in. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Drinking the water. So basically they give you acid to when you go to fucking mad-ass-ass garden. Not good at. Here's a thing. If you do the research and you, like, talk to, like, medics and doctors that aren't, like, being paid by your insurance provider. Right. Off the record, everyone's, like, definitely take doxy.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. But, like, I will tell that to, like, my mom and stepdad. Oh, no, no, no. And their doctor told them to take Malarone. Yeah. It's a more expensive drug. All right, we've said enough negative stuff about Madagascar. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Right. Before I'd ever been there, you think of Madagascar, like the movie. Yep. Right? Totally. Yeah, totally. This is this unbelievably cool island.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So here's what I want to do. Okay. You've been there three times. I have. I've only been twice. Yep. So forest. Off the top of your head,
Starting point is 00:30:49 I want your list of your favorite, give me a number that would be a good number. Five. Your five favorite endemic species to Madagas. Ooh. Okay. And Kyle's going to pull up pictures. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And it's going to be fun. Okay. Oh, yeah. Because there are thousands to choose from. Well, and that's what's so amazing. about Madagascar is something like 94% I'm making this number up but it's very, very high of the creatures that are endemic, meaning they occur nowhere else on the planet. Oh, wow. Insane.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It's a massive place. I'm going to go five, five to one. Okay. Okay. Coming in at number five, the satanic leaf-tailed gecko. Sounds like a lizard, yeah? Oh, yeah. It's a gecko. And its tail probably looks like a leaf. Okay, so that you can pull these things up. Wow, dude, look at that. Look at the face on there. Look at the coloration. Look at that. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I mean, dude, and camoed as a leaf, the fact that the eyes are also the same color as a leaf. Look at that. Is that real? That's bullshit. That's added wings. Got it. These fuckers. How can you believe anything online anyway?
Starting point is 00:31:59 And we've seen him. Patrick and I have seen him. We saw him on the little island on the way to, what was the name of that place? On the way to. Wow. Look at that one, dude. It looks like... Mashwala.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Muschwala. Exactly like a fucking leaf. It's funny because it looks like a leaf. And so someone was like, we got to call it a leaf-tailed gecko. And then someone was like, yeah, look at the face, too. Pretty dumb. And we were sitting in there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 That's a dope animal. That is a dope fucking animal. Not found anywhere but Madagascar. All right. Number four, Jackson's chameleon. So, one of those two. I don't think we saw Jackson. Oh, Parsons.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Parsons are the ones that get this big. That's right. probably pretty close on the way. Oh, yeah. I've seen... I picked Jackson's just for the horns. Like, I think Parsons are really cool because they're way bigger.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Panthers are amazing because of the colors. But the Jackson, something about that triceratops. It is a triceratops. Yeah, it's existing triceratops. That's it. Imagine if triceratops were those colors. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:57 They have no idea. Yeah, they might have been. They were. They make up the dinosaur colors. They were green. They were brown. We have no idea. They could all look like this.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah, exactly. No idea. I have absolutely no idea. So is there something special about that animal with its horns? Or what are the horns for mating? Yeah, it's got to be sexual selection. I guess I don't actually know the answer, but I'm sure it's ISD, industry standard definition, peacocking.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just showing off. All chameleons are endemic to Madagascar, right? All of their species of, all of the species of chameleon in Madagascar are endemic to Madagascar. Okay. But chameleons exist on the subcontinent of Africa. Got it. Just a few other species.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But all from Africa. Yes. Wow. I didn't know that. Except for a very small population of veiled, or maybe it's flapneck, no, veiled chameleons that for whatever reason got introduced a very long time ago and are now their own subspecies, I believe, in Portugal. In one part, Portugal, tiny little place.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. All right. So we've got a couple lizards. We're going to have any non-lizards on this list? No, no.
Starting point is 00:34:04 It's all lizards. All right. All right, coming in at number three, and I'm only going to pick this, there are so many cool lemurs there. There are rough lemurs. There are night lemurs. There's so many cool lemurs. But your generic ring-tailed lemur. Sure.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It occurs nowhere else. It's so goddamn cute. I know. That's why every zoo in the country has them. It's King Julian. Yeah. Honestly, they don't, like, the temperaments of the brown lemurs are better than these guys, but just look at that ring-tailed lemur. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I thought you might have gone with the mouse lemur. Mouse lemurs are adorable. They're so goddamn. And the I-I for me, just real quick, Kyle, I didn't put it on the list because I want to move on to two even weirder animals. But just Google I-I-I, or no, sorry, shit, I just gave away my number one. Damn it. That's okay. Well, we've got to look at it now.
Starting point is 00:34:54 That's right. I'll just switch it up. I-I should be on the list. This was my number one for sure, was the eye. They all have like crazy demonic eyes and face. All of these animals that you've shown except for the horn lizard. And the eye has been driven to near extinction in many places because of their demonic look. Really?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah, because the locals see them as like a bad omen and a bump them on the head and whatnot. But what I was a lady in my own neighborhood. They're bigger than you think, too. Yeah, yeah, they're like, they're pretty big. They're not, yeah. There was a lady in my old neighborhood. Her car was all filled with trash all the time to the brim. I'm talking she's sitting in the front seat. Look just like that.
Starting point is 00:35:31 All right, well, that's my number one. Then my number two, oh, this is an easy one, Fusa. Yeah, okay. I was hoping that would make the list. Do you know what the FUS is? Nope. Can you guess? Fill me in.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Too late. It's a lion. Yep. Wow. We're insane, dude. We were lucky enough to get very close to several of these. It almost looks like a mountain lion, kind of. That encounter that we had with the Fusa,
Starting point is 00:35:57 yeah. Patrick was with me. We built this blind, this Fusa came cruising in. Courtney was there. It actually ended up, like, biting my shoe. Sure did. It was, it's weird because the situation wasn't, like, the best situation I've ever seen an animal in.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But that's an animal that I've been obsessed with since I was, like, six years old. What do you love about it? It's just, like, it's so weird. It's evolved. So its wrists go 180 degrees so it can go up and down trees vertically, which is insane. That's nuts. It's incredibly voracious, even though it doesn't look like it. It's the only predator.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's a big animal. It's big, yeah. I mean, not like a lion big, but, you know, like much bigger than Charlie. Yeah. It's the only, like, lemur hunting animal in Madagascar. I don't know. Just, I don't know why I've always been so upset. You know, it's a gnarly carnivore that's packed into this small weird.
Starting point is 00:36:45 It'd be like, saying, a Wolverine. Right. What family is that in, do you know? It's its own family. A fousidae, I think, is the genus, but it's totally its own thing. Yeah. And it's, like, between a canine and a cat. It really is.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yeah. So then it was biting your shoe. Biting chewing on my shoe. I don't know. And Courtney got mad at you. Sorry? And then Courtney kind of got mad at you. You're like, it's biting my shoe. Yeah, she's like, don't disturb it.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm like, it's trying to eat my ankle. Yeah. I'm sorry, but it's like I really don't want it to chew on me. Yeah. But it was one of the best encounters I've ever had. Yeah. Well, it's Malagasy civet. Sivots are those big cats, maybe not that type,
Starting point is 00:37:26 but the cats that some people keep us pets. No, that's a serval. Oh, a servile. Civits are kind of weasily looking. Weasily, yeah, like must-lid-looking things. So a lot of those. So, yeah, so that's my top five, but then the one... Yeah, there's a lot of species of civet.
Starting point is 00:37:40 The one animal that I didn't mention that I was thinking of initially was the injury. Do you know what that is? I and D... Kyle's looking at me. I-N-D-I-R-I. Injury. Indry. So it's this giant, like, lemur, no tail.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And it's the biggest lemur species. It's basically Madagascar's answer to a panda. Yeah, I was just going to say it looks like, it looks like the crazy car lady animal. I forget the one that was in the car, with the eye, I just looks like the eye in the face, but a panda, the rest of it. They're crazy, man. That's bigger than the Red Rough Gleamer? Oh, yeah, much.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Oh, wow. They're really big. Like, they're close to human-sized. Really? Wow. They're like probably five-ish foot end-to-end. They're big animals, yeah. And type in injury call.
Starting point is 00:38:30 and just play it for those listening because the sound it makes. So we went and stayed in this place. Man, I'm blanking on it. It's not far from Montana Varevo, the Capitol. It's like a two-hour drive. Blank it on the name of it.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Hold on one sec, I'll before you play it. And we stayed in this tiny little lodge. Again, this was with Jess, like my first time there. No money, like sleep on floor mats on the floor.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And we got in late at night. And it was, you know, fucking dicey Tana is. So we're like pretty nervous being there. And we woke up in this. unbelievable jungle to this sound, and it was like, it was like a life-changing experience. Wow, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Isn't that amazing? That is nuts. Yeah, it's just incredible. Try and replicate it. Can you replicate it? No, I can't do that. My voice doesn't get that. Caluca Cooha.
Starting point is 00:39:20 No, that's definitely not it. But yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I'm going to throw one more on the list. Just pull up mouse lemur. Lots of lemurs. We just do a lot of lemurs. I was a tripod on just cool animals.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Cool animals. Yeah. Like a different channel like under the wild land. Yeah. I had a staring contest with a mouse slinger one night. I just shined my flashlight on it and it was just staring at me all cute. And we just looked at each other for like 30 minutes. This is the first time right the second that I've realized the like cute punching bag in the Madagascar movies is a mouse slamer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:56 You remember like there's King Julian and then. Yeah. And then there's like the one that's like, ooh. And they're like, shut up Derek or whatever his name. That's him. That's Derek right there. Yeah, there he is. Mort.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Mort. Great name. Yeah. It's the first time I've realized that Mort was a mouse lemur. Well, do you have any more pat or you're just, just that one? No, I know. I'm not a biologist. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I thought it was cool. I mean, I'm a big fan of the Malagasy dwarf hippo. Yes. I think that's a very cool animal. Okay. I found one. Don't think they're still there. No.
Starting point is 00:40:28 That was, is that one of the episodes you did on Extincter, live? Yeah, we went twice once for that. What was the other one? For the, uh, uh, it was like the cryptidy one. The, uh, oh man, I'm just too many friggin fat tires. Um, um, what the fuck were you looking for the first time? I was going to say injury, but it's not the injury. Somebody don't comment in the, it was the red rough lemur that we found that we thought was a case of mistaken identity. Right. Right. We're looking for the, the, what's the name of it? That this is good, good pod. We've done, Hundreds of, like, hours of TV, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:03 It's hard to remember all of this. I'm shocked that I... Pachy lemur. Yes, but I was... I knew that. I was trying to think of the name that they called... Kisawala.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Kisawala. That's the name I was trying to remember. I know it's a Pachy Lamer. I was trying to remember Kisawala. That's right. Yeah. So what, tell me about this thing, the Kisawala. So where we went way up in the Meshwala Peninsula,
Starting point is 00:41:25 you're going to be quizzed on all these names later. Deishuala Peninsula is? Yes. The band from our middle school days. There was the kisawala, which was this giant lemur that the locals had reported seeing that apparently was like a carnivore, they were scared of it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which if you look at the like location and the historical evidence of when these things went extinct, there used to be this giant carnivorous lemur in Madagascar, well, part omnivorous,
Starting point is 00:41:54 called the Pachy lemur, which Kyle will pull up a picture of in a second here. And the Pachy lemur, we believed, was what they were calling. Kissawala. But then when we got there and looked into it, that's not right. Oh yeah, that's from our show. Yeah, that's from XT-Life. But we believe what they were seeing were these very rare red rough bleamer, which you're seeing there in that picture. Go down to the one where he's right next to it, Kyle. He's 180 feet up a tree there. Yeah. I don't know how many it really was. It was like a hundred. Probably about that. Very scary. Jeez. Yeah. So now wait, you're next to. He didn't get back. No, that's like super impug.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Gotcha. That's like an editing. That's the one you were looking for. But they were close. I mean, they were like meteor swimming pool. Yeah. The tree over from us. But yeah, it wasn't the Kisawala.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It wasn't the Paki Lamer. Yeah. I'm saying are the same thing. It was what we believe the locals were seeing these very rare red rough lemur, which are very big as well. They're like four or five feet long. They're huge. And they're just very rare and very sporadic.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And I think that people were mistaking them for this Kisawala Paki Lamer thing because of the lack of, abundance of them. If you, we may have talked about this before, but if you could do one more extinct or alive, what animal? That's a great question. Yeah, you get one episode left. They're like, hey, we're going to do a two-hour special. Big budget, though. Big budget. Anything you want. You want the honest answer? No, I want a lie. Okay. Well, the lie is, the honest answer is I'd pick something that I feel like I'd have a really good shot at finding, hoping they'd do more. Not what I'd want to do, like, in my...
Starting point is 00:43:30 heart. Give me the heart one. Because that's the honest answer. The honest answer is if they were like, hey, we're going to give you one more crack in this, I'd go look for one where I'm like, guys, we're going to find it. And I have a couple that I feel very strongly about because then maybe they do another season and we could go back on our adventure. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Well, actually, why don't you rattle one or two of those off that you think you could find? No, I can't do that for obvious reason. Giving it away? Yeah, because if I talk about it, and there's people in the scientific community who know this, well, I mean, I could maybe say their names, but. No, you don't have to. these are animals that can be found okay you know that I'm very very confident in it and it's because I have insider information right because people reach out to me all the if joe rogan asked you this question
Starting point is 00:44:09 would you have told them no you would okay no I would have been like oh I don't know um all right so what's the one in your heart and by the way the information that I have on these animals the reason I'm not sharing it I can say these animals name but if you dig deep enough on that animal you can probably figure out where it is. And if you do that, if I do that on this podcast, it's not responsible. Sure, because unless the right people know where and what these animals are, they can, especially one of them in particular, which is stunning, it'll be taken for the pet trade or something and that'll create problems. Yeah, you'll have like Neil Waters out there trying to, uh, or much worse, poachers. Right, but my point is it's, it's irresponsible to even say these
Starting point is 00:44:47 animals because they're not well-known animals. Okay. And they can be found. They've just been missing from science for a long time and they'll end up in the pet trade or something. So to go back to the like the sub cockles of your heart. I know what you would do. What is it? You would go to to Papua and look for thylacine. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Which I also think has a strong likelihood of being found given the right couple million dollar budget and length of study and so on and sure. Now is discovery or any of these networks going to care enough or pay enough? No. Right. You know, we're talking millions of to find this. You know, three to six months of hundreds, if not thousands of camera trap survey.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah. Nobody's paying that for an episode of TV. Right. Yeah, I mean, that's one of the biggest problems with everything is the funding. Right. You know, if you had an unlimited budget to do these types of things, tons of animals would probably be found, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:44 You know, and with the whole colossal thing and thylacine coming back, it's like, is it even as worth it anymore? I'm serious. That's an interesting question, an interesting take on it. They are going to bring that animal back. Like they've announced it, they have the DNA for it, blah, blah, blah, blah. Is it worth putting $2 million into going to find, I suppose it would be, it'd probably be the diverge so long ago,
Starting point is 00:46:07 it'd probably be its own subspecies, but is it worth spending $2 million to go find a photo of one in Western Papua or Papua New Guinea? Or is that same $2 million better spent protecting some land in Tasmania to bring up the ones that somewhere like Colossil is going to make. I also feel like if you found a thylacine and published the video and photo,
Starting point is 00:46:29 like, it would be a race of like which billionaire could get there on their yacht and helicopter with their rifle and shoot it faster. I don't think so. I don't know. Dude, those place, the place where those things would be is not... That's true.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Billionaire. Yeah, it's not fun. Yeah, it's not funny. Like, don't get me wrong. Anywhere's billionaire accessible when you're a billionaire, but it's like, you're not living comfortably. Like, it's miserable no matter how rich. You might get hit with an arrow through your fucking neck. At any point in time. At any point in time.
Starting point is 00:47:00 That's the place you described one time where it's basically just a huge valley surrounded by mountains. Pull up, pull up western. You have to look up the mountain name. It's the highest mountain in western Papua, not probably.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah, I forget what it's called. But yeah, basically, once you get up over that mountain, which, you know, you basically are in like rainforest forest at the base and then you're in snow at the top. Yeah. Wow. And once you get up over it.
Starting point is 00:47:24 You don't even need to do that, Kyle. Just put the roads in Western Papua. Just type Western Papua New Guinea and turn the roads on. You know how you show the roads somehow? Yeah. And they don't, no one goes in there. Right. Well, that's why they estimate there's like at least, I can't remember what the estimate is,
Starting point is 00:47:41 but it's like at least 40 uncontacted tribes. Yeah. Oh, wow. But the point is like, see that whole central basin region where it says Papua down. there. Yeah. The topography. Notice how there's not a single village or town.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I mean, now that's not a small area. Sure. From Tiome over there to the border of... Ryan Jaya. Right. Yeah, that's the mountain. There's nothing. There's absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:06 You see that? Yeah. And if you look, that's all mountainous on either side and a drainage. And just the point is, I don't care if you're freaking Elon Musk. Like, you're not living comfortably. No. Sure. There's just no version of being comfortable.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Yeah. Yeah. And that's why it'll take millions of dollars in multiple months to do it properly. Yeah, a year of planning. Yeah. At least. Permits and the bureaucracy and the cameras. I mean, we've had whole cases of trail cameras stolen multiple times. Yeah. Of course. Out there? Or just in general? Just in general. In general. We showed up, we shipped for the, for the African Black Main Lion, the Cape Lion episode, we shipped a pelican of, I want to say 20 or 30 trail cameras to South Africa ahead. Gone. All of them? Never arrived.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Never showed up. In other words, someone at Johannesburg Customs went, ah, this looks nice. Yeah. And that was it. Gone. Never to be seen again.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Yep. Yeah. It's interesting hearing about just kind of the behind the scene shit on just the productions that you guys do where, you know, like all these challenges like with the Fern and them trying to take the credit. Yep. Like losing 20 cases of fucking cameras.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Do you have this all in your mitigation plan when you plan? when you plan this shit out or is it like? Nope. Luckily, I don't handle any of that stuff. I don't know how it works. I mean, I don't handle it either, but it doesn't go well. Creates nothing but stress for everyone involved. The guys handling that are like me and Mitch, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:49:34 All right, here we go. It's time. What are we doing? Battle Royal. Really? Do you have one? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. All right. No Googling.
Starting point is 00:49:46 No Googling. It better not be like one that I have to. to Google. Battle Royale. Okay, Battle Royale, it is a snake draft. We are back. We're talking extinct animals here. You have to go and find an extinct animal. You got to pick the animal. Okay. You got to pick the companion, whoever you're taken with you. You've got to pick the method. A human? Whatever you want. It can be a tracking dog. It can be a buddy. It can be Bobby Flay. Yeah, I was already thinking about it. I'm going to be eaten. Yep. And you got to pick the method in which you're going to try and find that critter.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Okay. Can I go first? Sure. I'm going to pick my... Are you doing all three? Yeah, we got it. No, no. I'm going to start with my companion. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I'm going to bring with me BTG. Smart. And I'll tell you why later. Bradley Trevor. Bradley Trevor Greve is going to come as my companion. I like that. You know, obviously he's going to regale you with stories if you're bored camping. He's big.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Very large. And I believe that instead of... I believe I can outrun him. Certainly agree with that. Yeah. And he will try to protect me. No. I see a loin cloth there.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Because he's weird. He's weird. All right. So that's my companion. Great. Peter? All right. I'm going to go searching for the megaladone.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Okay. You know enough to do this the real one. I'm doing it. Okay. I said megaladone. Fair enough. Very good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Okay. That's your animal? Okay. I'm up for two. Snake drive. It's going to make news. It is. Just that you're even searching for it.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Yep. True. Yeah, I mean, maybe not. Big Shark. Oh, shit. Did you not remember? Go ahead. I'm going to do, I'm going to go on a search that I always wanted to do that was too difficult and logistically expensive.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Stellar Sea Cow. Ah, yes. That's a good one. I'm going to go up to the, to the Bering Sea and look for the stellar sea cow. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And my method, I haven't picked my companion. My method of capture is going to be thermal drone. Giant marine mammal.
Starting point is 00:51:51 All it has to do is surface. They're breathing. I just need a fleet of thermal drone. A fleet of thermal drone. Yep. Okay. I need a dozen plus thermal drone. Spending some cache on this, huh?
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah, we're going to need some quiche. All right. All right. Okay. Well, my method to find the Megalodon is obviously going to be a nuclear submarine. It's good. He's literally rewriting the Jason. Statham.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Get your way down there? Yeah. Yeah. I get what you're doing. You're like, if it's still hiding, it's got to be really living in the deep. And if it's, and if we scare it to the surface,
Starting point is 00:52:25 it's going to be a problem for all those Chinese beaches. Nuclear sub. Nuclear sub, you can stay down for months. You don't have to come up. We can search for a very long time. I like it. How you're thinking like the team. Now,
Starting point is 00:52:38 I am going to use this method to search for my extinct. I should tell you what the animal is. Probably. So we're going to go search in West Papua for the thylacine. Of course. What we're going to do is our method is going to be, it's going to be very expensive. We are going to take a fleet of helicopters in.
Starting point is 00:53:01 We're going to bungee jump down into that valley. Sick. Detach ourselves. So more of a repel than a bungee jump. I want it to be a bungee jump because I want to kind of get the bounce because eventually you stop bouncing. Smart. So you're going to enjoy yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah. Have some fun. Yeah. And then it's going to be the largest camera trap study in the history of mankind. Okay. In which we will deploy over 22,500. That's very specific. Cameras. Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And we're going to have, part of why it's going to be so expensive is we're going to, a team will have already advanced and built a cell tower. Wow. And so they'll be the kind of camera that can, we can live monitor. So you're just going to like be sitting back at the four seasons with your phone in your hand. No, I'm going to help him as we deploy the cameras. Okay. That's going to be the hard work. And then we're going to just sit in a robust
Starting point is 00:53:51 camp with a cook, Bobby Flay. And just monitor the cameras. And I'll tell you why I'm doing all this with BTG. Yeah. To make you jealous. It'll work. Yeah. He's already, he's a little flush. He's upset. You've got the cooler version of me and
Starting point is 00:54:07 BTG. You've got the animal like you're winning. Yeah. 22,500 plus. Yeah. I was going to do like 200 cameras. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, if the budget's unlimited, I'm going to update my, I'm going to have a fleet of nuclear submarines.
Starting point is 00:54:22 It's all around. Everyone's got a fleet. Two thousand nuclear submarines. I don't even think that many exist in the world. Well, they will after this. Okay. And you know what? I'm just going to take my wife.
Starting point is 00:54:33 We're going to have a good time. We're going to play card games down there. I think it's going to be bickering. Close borders. No, no, we don't pick her. If I was stuck in a sub with my wife for more than a day, I'd probably kill her. She'd probably kill me, actually. You don't want to be in a sub with the same person that you want to,
Starting point is 00:54:49 no, no. Well, who says, well, I mean. He's like, I don't. I mean, you know, I'm asexual. I thought you were going to take Jason Statham. No, no, no. Yeah. What would he, he would do me no good down there.
Starting point is 00:55:00 He just a dumb actor. He just wrote the entire plot of the movie of the movie the Meg. Listen, I don't have to do any of the work anyways because there's a thousand nine hundred and 99 other nuclear subs that are, so you're just kind of overseeing. Exactly. They all. And, and. Each one of them has over 250,000 cameras on.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I mean, I really think you should have taken Statham. You would have a lot of fun. By the time you get back, you'll be doing a spot on Statham impression. You should work on your impression. He wouldn't play Canasta with me. Okay. All right, Forrest. So I'm looking for the stellar Seacow.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Like everyone, I have a fleet with 7 million cameras on them of aerial drones. Thermal drones. And I'm going to take with me, I need Lizzo Okay Famous singer Lizzo
Starting point is 00:55:49 I mean this is how you're going to get it on TV Not only that But I need a big bosom To warm me up at night Something to cuddle up with That night It's very cold up there
Starting point is 00:55:57 He's doing my schick now See I'm surprised I thought you were gonna take Attenborough So that you could live edit And track the show Or that he could just stand over your shoulder And just say what's going on That would be wonderful
Starting point is 00:56:09 However he's like 97 And I have a feeling You wouldn't contribute a lot Whereas Lizzo is going to be entertaining. She's going to get it on TV. It's going to be out there. It's going to be very warming at night. I assume we're cuddling in this scenario. By the way, also, if you're listening while you're eating dinner, her playing the flute as just wonderful entertainment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Incredible. Yeah. No, this is not a dig at her. Like, this would be delightful to be with to have that level of entertainment when you're on a ship. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. What I'm saying. Usually you're on a ship, it's like, you know, some guy who like, they discovered it like Chuckles Comedy Club in Pittsburgh. Right. Right. Yeah. Captain Ron. Yeah. Getting one or two yucks. You're playing seasick cards. At best. Where the guy's got a catchphrase?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah. He's just like, what's going on with airport security? That's not right. Yeah. You're bringing Jerry Simon. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Well, Brousners, let us know which of these three expeditions you'd like to go on. Actually, let us know this. Vote. Who would you be most likely, whose expedition would you contribute five dollars towards
Starting point is 00:57:09 if you had to put your money towards one? Yeah. So hit that thanks button under the video and contribute that five minutes. No, I think they're going to pick for us because they're like, he actually knows what he's doing. These other guys are idiot. But he's got Lizzo. But I picked Lizzo.
Starting point is 00:57:22 That was true. I've got BTG. Sort of a dig on actually finding anything. Whereas you've got BTG. But BTG is a replacement for you. Yeah, but he's still one to one. We have 2,000 nuclear submarines. Well, you started with one.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Yeah, but I didn't know what this was all. All right. Well, weigh in. Let us know whose expedition you'd contribute your hard-earned cash towards. Yep. And who you think's going to win. So you know what? Let's hear yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Yes. Get out your top three and we'll read out the best one. Yes, we will. In the comments, read out, I would go here. I would take this person and I would use this method to find an extinct critter. Yeah, I like it. Love it. Free t-shirt?
Starting point is 00:57:59 Sure. Fat T-shirt. A free shirt. Free shirt. Yep. Someone gets a shirt sent to them. Yep. Whichever is the, either.
Starting point is 00:58:06 You can go two routes. Really scientific and it holds, it holds up. Yep. And it's good and it's like, yeah, that's great. or just makes us laugh. Yeah, comedy wins. Yeah, you gotta be funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Either one, maybe two free shirts. We'll decide. We'll decide. Maybe there'll be a tie. We'll make up the rules as we go. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, great times.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Good time. Let's go for a swim. Wild times. How to shit in the sweatshirt. Meads. Good night. Love everybody except for you too. Rood.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I'm watching. I don't get to see you doing in person. It's hard to do with the mic. I feel like you've spent a lot of time high doing that, just in a mere. I used to go to a lot of raves. Yeah. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah.

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