Wild2Mild Podcast - Ep 13. Would you leave your drunk friend in the club???

Episode Date: October 12, 2025

Email us 💕This week on The Wild2Mild Podcast, Bethan Kershaw and Nicole O’Brien are diving headfirst into a dilemma & red flag / green flag that have everyone talking and trust us, the tea is HOT.First up, they're asking the age-old friendship question: Is it ever okay to leave your drunk friend alone in the club? Whether you’re the friend who wants to keep the party going or the one doing the responsible herding, Bethan and Nicole unpack the messy reality of nights out, loyalty tests, and how to find the balance between having fun and keeping your friends safe. Expect honest confessions, a few horror stories, and a lot of laughter along the way.Then they switch gears and tackle a red flag / green flag straight from the dating trenches - the 29-year-old mummy’s boy. You know the type: still living at home, Mum does his washing, cooking and cleaning… but he swears he’s “saving for a house.” Is that a green flag for financial responsibility, or a blazing red one for emotional immaturity? Bethan and Nicole break it down with their signature mix of humour, brutal honesty and personal experience.As always, nothing’s off limits. Tune in for girl talk that feels like a night in with your best mates -unfiltered, hilarious, and a little bit wild.

Hi guys, welcome back to the Wild Tamal podcast with your host, Beth and Kishaw. And your host, Nicole O'Brien. Hello, hello. It's been a few weeks. It's been a few weeks. We have missed you so much. We have. And also, thank you so much for sending in all your dilemmas, your red flags, your green flags, and your billings. Very interesting. They are very interesting. Very juicy. Very juicy. Very juicy. Juicy juice. So good. But anyways, what's been going on? Let's have a little. little quick quick catch up because like what would you do with well obviously we haven't seen each other I'm I put me leg up there like that look yeah yeah yoga pose I know yeah yoga pose I went

to go see the conjuring oh right so unlike me I know guys it was fucking terrifying when I say I went to go see it like I literally watched half of it between my hands like it was terrifying but I didn't know that it's true story um yeah so it's like based on like true people isn't it yeah but it's all true what's that name jane or what's that name um i actually can't remember but they're like yeah she's meant real real people yeah yeah and they did like annabelle in that is that yeah yeah yeah well i think that's like based of it like uh byproduct of it yeah but basically they went i won't give the whole story away in case you haven't seen it but basically they went to house people died now i'm joking no one died actually sorry that's the spoiler itself

ignore ignore right but um yeah it was like their last case before they stopped oh my god so they fully stop they fully stopped from because it was so bad sorry sorry sorry tell me though oh okay wait i can't i can't i can't give a smile if you don't want spy last you can have to skip about 10 minutes right skip like two minutes skip like two so basically they go to like a house where it's like extremely haunted but the main woman the mother yeah when she was pregnant with her child in the 60s. She did like a case and there was like a haunted mirror and then there was a demon in the mirror or like it was like demonized in some way. Right. And then she was pregnant and then she touched the mirror and she got into labor, early labor and it was a stillborn. But she like kept

praying with a dead baby on her chest and it came back to life. Oh God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Was it a demon inside the baby? No, the demon wanted to attach itself to the child. So then as the child got older she's like in her 20s or early 30s. she then is drawn to this case the child because she also has these powers and she like there's this really bad case in like pennsylvania or something right and the child ends up going to the house being like i've just been drawn to this case but the same mirror ended up in that house oh my god because the grandparents bought the mirror as a confirmation present for the child so lads i've goosebumps like it was so scary what the hell yeah it was

terrifying was that the child of the woman who um just all of the things. Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, is that her story? So is it kind of following on her story now rather than the mom's story? It's kind of all of them together, but like, because I obviously believe in all that, like my house at home was haunted. So like I believe, well, I mean, there was definitely spirits in there. So I believe in all that. So I was like terrified when I found out that it was true story beforehand. And then I came back here to the house alone. Oh, when I tell you, I was terrified. I sat on this chair. I sat in this chair and I got, office and I went into the kitchen and the chair creaked a little bit but I think it's because

like the pillow was like repositioning itself but when I tell you I shat myself I fucking shout myself and like I ran upstairs and then Ralph my cat was staring at the wall the next day and please he was staring at the wall on Sunday just into blank space and obviously animals can see shit so I was so scared what did you say love what did you see what did you say yeah it was so scary but like babies and like animals can see yeah because they've got different sensors haven't they because apparently like apparently there's loads of like sensors that your body has I kind of remember what it was whether it was a podcast or a TikTok I don't know my fucking brains melted with it all but someone said that oh my god you know what it was a podcast

it was Stephen Bartlett and it was a it was a neuroscientist therapist and she said that though yeah and she said there was like how many senses did she say say like fucking 98 or something mad like that she said there was like so many different senses yeah and there is true because like even when like say like energetically you can feel things i think i went through psychosis ones you know right and i was in me flat right and this is when i first got into spirituality like first really got into it and i was looking at all the meditation and you know the astral realm and all of that and the three day five day dimensions all this right oh yeah yeah um and i was definitely

you're going through maybe a psychosis or something and I could physically see like black shadow people what oh yeah oh my god literally am getting goosebumps are you fucking serious yes we're god yeah mm-hmm and then apparently this guy says to as he told us because I was telling him this story when I was like obviously trauma-dump and on a guy that I'd just met this was like remember um mr Italy anyways oh yeah I was telling him all my life you got it pulled it out of his and then that don't do that they love that don't fucking do that they earn the right to know you right

they fucking need to earn that privilege motherfucker anyways so yeah we hate him in case you have known nah I don't hate him I don't even fucking know him but like you know what I mean weird

anyways so I was telling this guy and I was like yeah so like I basically went through like a full on psychosis and I said I genuinely feel like I was like dead dead depressed when I was like thingy and he said

apparently like spirits and things like that if you've noticed in the movies it always goes for people who are more vulnerable who are like mentally thingy not because they're mentally unwell and unstable but it's because like the spirit knows that not many people are going to believe them oh I thought it was

because it's like low vibrations so when you've got a low vibrational energy you're more susceptible but high vibrations don't why would you go for a low vibration and it brings the load of vibration down oh it brings you vibration down yes apparently

it brings the vibration down but who knows that's so interesting but did you know that there's a I don't know what they call it it's like devil's hour so after we went to the oh my god I was going to see don't tell me what it is oh my god

no no I'm going to be waking up at three o'clock now fucking traumatised because after we finished the movie my friend said to me oh do you ever hear of something called the devil's hour it said you dare

tell me what time that is I said you fucking dare between two and three oh my god I often wake up at that time yeah but listen hang on a minute because

you're watching no no no no no listen because fair enough I feel like that's more suspicion suspicest suspicious what's it called Suspicious? Suspicious

No um wait that one uh skept skepticism I don't know it's basically like it's like a it's like a fairy tale

what's a call fucking hell lose me brain it's like no smoke without fire like who came up with that oh well I don't know but listen so your body from it from a no no no from a biological point of view right

your body it goes into deep sleep it goes in and out of deep sleep yeah so around about that time especially if you go to to bed at like 10, 11 o'clock, sometimes you can't wake up at that time. Right. All right. So this is where the suspicion I feel probably comes in. All right. It's actually just biology. Okay. Or whatever the word is for like human anatomy, I don't know. Oh my God. I'm going to be waking up now. I'm just thinking devil's trying to get inside my body. Which honestly, it's not

far off to be fair. To be honest, I actually feel like that's, because I was really into that as well. like when I went through my whole spiritual awakening and I was learning all this stuff and then I was like oh my god and then it freaked I think it freaked us out in fact I think I freaked myself out I think I got that deep into this spiritual thing where I was like looking at the devil

as I was waking up I was panicking I was like oh my god then I thought I could see like black shadows and shit like that yeah like full on running through my apartment like me thing the black shadows yeah yeah

I think I'm gonna cry no yeah awful I can say it's scared. But I think that my brain was just playing tricks on this. Maybe I had schizophrenia. Oh my God. No, no. If you had schizophrenia,

you'd be seeing fucking weirder shit than black shadows, I feel. But listen to this, right? Sometimes I close my eyes, right? Oh my God, literally I've got sickeriphania. So sometimes I close my eyes at night, right? And I can see, like, demon faces. Can you?

Oh, my God. I've just out on the podcast I've got schizophrenia. I think, yeah, you've got schizophrenia. Oh, no. No, really. I don't see demon faces.

Oh, my God, no, really. Wait, what do they look like? What do they look like? I'm scared now. No, I'm scared. You're really terrified? Oh, no. I don't know if we should tell this on the podcast.

If anyone sees demon faces, please tell Beth and it's okay and she doesn't have schizophrenia. It's like, so basically I'll lie there, right? And like, I'm falling asleep, falling asleep, falling asleep and then like

I'm like falling asleep and then like these like demon faces will just come out to know when it'll give us a fright

and I'll get it's fright and I'll actually don't know how to respond to this oh fucking hell that's mad or maybe that's like say PTSD

like trauma or something yeah could be let's go with that let's just let's go for that yeah thank you everyone's going to be like

get these girls into her fucking mental I know literally oh my god that is hilarious though um i mean it's not hilarious it's hilarious you would cry yeah no for sure for sure you better make a fucking joke about it

oh my goodness oh yeah because if you don't have been on the other end of you know basking in my own cries yeah yeah it's not pretty i'd rather laugh and be like yeah do you know what right when you say those people those kind of like what's it called like um uh like the really spiritual people that just do not care and they're just laughing and they're just and they look insane and they look mental but I tell you what I bet they're having a fucking good time oh my god they're so happy yeah they don't care because they don't care so that's where I'm at now how do I get to

that where I don't care I'd love to just dance down the street do you ever see these people with the headphones on they're like dancing in the street and you're like do you know what fucking fair play oh fair play you know what I did try that once do you know is the only like as far as I've got to because I've sometimes I try and push myself to do stuff like that and I'm walking the street when I've got my headphones on and I've got a bit of confidence, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The closest... Shimmy, shimmy. I just... A little shimmy. I'm like that. A little shimmy. I'm like that. I feel like it releases endorphins,

doesn't it? Should I mean? Yeah, probably. And do you know what? I do feel good after? Do you feel good? But I just wish I could do like the really... But then I'm also very like observant of like what's going on.

Like I'm observing myself observing the fact that someone might be observing me. Does that make sense? Yes. So like I'm not... So I'm not... So I'm not fully engaged. engage in the movement yeah I get you I get you

because I'm too engaged on the yeah I'm moving but who's looking yeah I'm doing a shimmy but who's actually looking at us yeah yeah we have some juicy dilemmas and red flags and am I the villains

which should we stare off with let me look we'll see what the first one is so first one of this so um oh I don't know it doesn't say what that is

I'll do the one that says this so listen the subject okay this is what they put the subject am I the villain for leaving my mate in the club oh okay

oh god right okay hello right um we all went out and got so drunk and my friend

was wrecked, so wouldn't leave with us. I had work in the morning. I made sure she was with people, obviously, but now she's saying that I abandoned her when she literally didn't care about me needing to leave, and now, sorry, and I'm not going to drag

her home. I feel like the villain, but at the same time, I don't feel like I'm the villain. That's a tricky one. It is a tricky one because you can't drag someone home, and if someone's persistent to be like, I'm going home yeah exactly it's like and if there's other people there it depends on like if the

other people if she knew the other people like if they were just random people she met in the club best believe i would be dragging my friend home i wouldn't leave them at randomers i feel like years ago when i didn't have any knowledge like when i was 16 didn't have much knowledge of like what happens on nice out we're all terrified now yeah terrified to go out fucking dressed up of all the horror stories yeah the harris stories but um it depends who like you left her with in the club yeah i think like i have done that before and i honestly i felt really bad the next day and but i've also been the one who's been like i'm staying yeah same and then to be fair sometimes i didn't care i had a fucking ball because i just wanted to stay yeah i think when we're younger like

that's the thing is it when you're younger like you're not really awes like there's been so many times where I got left in town there's been so many times where I wanted to stay out and I was like no I'm not going home and then I'd end up a fucking fucking someone's rant and fucking kitchen. House party. Yeah I know

100% yeah like it's a thing like it just was like that when you're more younger like but at the same time again context like more context again more context more context ex-billies because like who did you leave her with yeah who was she with randomers was she with randomers

and put then again very young we were younger when we were younger we did it and we had the best time yeah i know wait i've had the best time i've met people like on a once on a night out i remember i met some people in um where did i meet them um um benedome like you know what i mean just things like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah people and i got left on my own yeah i did that in my golf actually as well i was left on my own but then again did I get left on my own I feel like I maybe ran off yeah I see that's it like because we would have been so fucking legless you would never been able to remember I know I do think equally

if you can if you can help it I think probably especially in these times I mean I don't know whether it's just because I've got more knowledge of it now maybe this is something that's always being going on but sometimes I just think it's just like not safe I think it's the whole like we've more knowledge on it more knowledge yeah maybe this has always been something that's going on but then again I don't know because then like we've got more knowledge on it but if it's always been going on

I had a fucking ball back in the day so why am I so scared now I think you know what I mean yeah I honestly don't know why I honestly think I am more scared just because I know so much and I watch so many documentaries on this shit and also I've had so many experience

as well where I'm just like yeah not twice now a little foot witch yeah and look at the nails you've got the nails you got the claws no one's coming near you with those claws. Yeah, exactly. Fucking dead, right? I wouldn't, I'd freeze like that.

I go, I know, I wonder how I would react. I feel like, if someone... I used to get random people's calls and everything, me, you know, I was... Me too. People used to pull up on the time and be like, oh, yo, like, what are you doing? I know. I know. Get straight in.

No, save, Joe, like, I came to London on a weekend when I was 19, and we went to a club called Libertine, if you know, you know, that club years ago. Yeah. um and we were outside the club at like 3 a m and this guy was like oh do you want to come in the car and we'll go back to a house party myself my friend had never met this guy wasn't even chatting to him in the club we hopped in the back of the car and he ended up driving to Hertfordshire which is an hour drive I got terrified and I told him to pull over to the side on like some street to get an Uber back but we were in the car we were pretty much at herfurture terrifying so since then i've never hopped in the car ever again so many so many honestly terrifying it's the prefrontal cortex not developing i know but i wish it didn't develop because now i'm just like at home like this i know terrified yeah terrified yeah terrified yeah late really i don't sorry i feel like i just really show it down the sorry if i'm just fucking

blow you yeah drums off sorry but do we think she's the villain I think you should have stayed with that only because of what I know in my information. I don't think that you're like, the villain because I understand. No, you are, you're the villain. Sorry. You shouldn't have left your friend,

especially in these days. And I think, like, if you, if anything had happened, thankfully nothing has, but if anything had happened, then you would be very devastated. Yeah. Do I mean? I think learn from this. Yeah, learn from it. And I think

the conversation what should have had is if she hasn't respected you needing to go home for work one you shouldn't be going out when you're at work at work you're at work girl you've got work thanks a morning what are you doing

you got work next morning you got work next morning and all I'm on why you plan on when you're at work I do it all the time every time I was out every sick I used to literally massage for 12 hours in a day and then I used to get changed in the toilets

and then I used to go out so I get it I get it I used to do that all the time but equally I think you know are we just so old what the fuck no I can't be dealing and literally fucking old no what the hell I used to be out till 6am and then be in work for 9 a.m working in retail until 8pm how the fuck did I do that Well, listen, your body and your liver and everything was younger, it was free.

It was fresh ash, it was spring chicken, all nice and plopped and nice and soft. And now we're just crusty or wringly back. I fucking know. But anyway, your half and half of being the villain, I don't really know. I think it depends on the circumstances. I think personally, with what I know now, I would have stayed with them. Stayed with your friend, yeah. And then you should have had the conversation with that the next day and being like, do you know what it is?

like you didn't respect me time blah blah blah blah and then next time that's like a kind of learning curve for you to be like um i'm not going to go out on a work night do what you want though i used to but listen i'm just thinking about your health do you know what i mean i'm thinking about your health i'm thinking about your mental health i'm thinking about your mental physical spiritual yeah um we're thinking about everything yeah we love you follow our footsteps and just don't drink don't ever drink don't get in random cars yeah do nothing just walk documentaries and traumatise yourself okay

that's all we fucking take it right what the hell that was a good one that right hang on so the girl's got a dilemma oh my god right girls I've got a dilemma I'm dating this guy

everything's going well but he still lives with his mum and he's 29 uh okay right so hang on wait there she could she's went like a part of me gets it the cost of living is mad right now and he's saying that he is saving for a deposit but also he gets his tea cooked every night he's laundry done I don't think he even knows how to work the washing machine and I never see him helping his mom around

the house um like is he smart for saving his money like he is smart for saving his money sorry I'm so fucking dyslexic it's actually a joke um right so so he is smart for saving his money but it's also given man-child so wait what's your dilemma then oh well I suppose that's a dilemma yeah yeah that is dilemma oh god I mean

do you know what I'm gonna be totally honest where you're right I also get where you're coming from because the fucking state of the country right now like houses it's expensive it's expensive it's going up I'm fucking sick of but at the same time what do you mean you don't fucking help your mom in the house yeah that's a bit fucking

I hate that, you know, because you know what I've noticed, I feel like I notice it more. I don't, maybe it's just my world for you. Maybe it's just what I've seen. I feel like men don't help in the house. I feel like the fucking don't. Not so much with housework and stuff. Yeah. And it really, but then I feel like they do the other bits, like the handyman shit.

No, like the handyman shit. That's what I know. I don't think they do, but listen, I'm going to, my dad's not going to handyman stuff. Oh, my dad does everything. everything really everything that's so not actually saying that maybe he's building a porch he does the heavy things yeah exactly yeah but still yeah yeah yeah i do know i think that fucking hell i mean yeah fair enough he's saving for a house that it fuck that's a good excuse like but also help your mom help your mom like i know she's not cooking for you and you won't even

clean the dishes but then i don't know because i'll go home to my mom and she cooks for me yeah but you Yeah, but you have your own house and you'll go visit her as a little treat and as a nice little time to spend with your mom. If you were living there you'd fucking clean up after yourself like.

Yeah. Do you don't mean? No, do you know what? Actually, sack him. Nah. Sack him. To be fair, I think, yeah, definitely. Man child.

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That was chaotic That was very chaotic I feel like this is a very chaotic one to do isn't it it's been a while you know we've missed years so we've got so much to say so much energy

so much energy um well I personally think that maybe just have a conversation with him and be well do you see that he doesn't help his mom are you there all the time

what's going on actually that's true yeah you don't live there you don't live there can you see are you watching them on the slide I know what I actually hate well actually I don't know if I hate it but I kind of like

love the fact that was so back and poor what i know it's like a pit four fucking four if we were on jury duty we be fucked we'd be fucked no we would be fucked no i would never know how to make a decision we wouldn't able to make a decision i really do weigh up the pros and cons of everything though and i've always been like that sometimes you just have to go with your initial and then when you get more information you go right i can change my mind now that i've been given this brand new information that i haven't seen before now i'm actually able to change my mind yeah I think, get rid, because he's a man.

Just kidding, just killing. I think get rid if he doesn't help his man out because, sorry, you're going to become his mother. If you end up getting married and living together, you're going to be cleaning the dishes, you're going to be doing the washing. Do you really want that? Do you know that I really couldn't think of anything worse?

Like, you know what, right? I'm getting. No, no, honestly, when people are in love and like, whatever, and people are in love, just, I look at people who are in love and I think... Vom. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. It's cute. It's cute. No, I look at people in love and I think like, like, especially when people are like, just like messy, you know, like when you say like men that are so messy? Mm-hmm. I couldn't. I couldn't be with a man like that. No, I would,

it would be, that would be a deal breaker for me. I'd have to end it. I actually think more men have OCD though than are messy. Well, the men that I've been with. Maybe it's just the men don't want to fucking leave that shit out of the floor for me then. Oh, brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. wet towels on the bed great oh that's so fucking annoying love that love that

um sack him next one yeah I'm joking no you don't want to be his mom though so you need to kind of

sort that shit yeah you better so fair enough weighing up your options I'm talking no fair enough if he's saving for a house

you know that's sack him I feel like get it get it rid of him right next one before we keep doing your fucking

ping pong right come on come on also guys look the fuck and see it me nail okay so um okay oh wait all right so we need to do a red flag green frat's fine horn hang on okay so oh my mate will proper sit and listen to us when i'm wait my mate will proper sit and listen to us when i vent but then i find out she's repeated what I've said to other people

when I've said it in confidence and she says that she didn't mean anything by it but to me that's breaking trust and I just feel like she's making this feel and I just feel like she's making me feel like I'm being dramatic about it but is this

a red flag? Red flag so yeah of course it's a red of course it's a red flag absolutely are you serious if I told you something and he went back and said it but even like I feel like it just know things that you don't repeat to other people like you know when somebody's

having a conversation with you what should be like what you can repeat and what you can't repeat. Yeah. You know what I'm fucking sick of people talking about other people like get a fucking hobby. Get a life. Get a a hobby. Get a new hobby. Get a life. Stop talking about others. Yeah. I find that is such a red flag and also

she's meant to be her friend and she's off telling other people what you've told her. I find that wild. Yeah. Like that would not be a friend for me at all. I think. absolutely red flag like get like get something else to do like why are you

talking about your friends yeah to other people come and talk to you in confidence and you're then going to your other friends to then spread their business like that's fucking weird sorry that is actually thought like if you actually really deep I don't know why you would ever think that was a green flag

oh maybe she's being manipulated in the friendship or something I don't know oh no that's so sad no please sorry are we very harsh we're like oh no god we're really hot today oh my I think look if you ever want the truth lads you know where to come

there's no sugar coating here it's a bit ping pong but we get to a conclusion and yeah we do it's no sugar it's sugar cubes yeah it is no sugar cubes absolutely red flag yeah I definitely think it's a red flag especially like if you've had a conversation

with that and then said like don't tell fucking people me shit not like you really should have a need to have a conversation with your friend to not tell other people your business your shit like but sometimes people are just fucking gossip's like in the love it I know listen I'm not immune to a good gossip I love a good gossip but having a good gossip and then fucking telling it yeah there's a level to it like you can be like have a little gossip I think that is normal to have a gossip yeah we all love a bit of a gossip and also as well like the way that people listen to this this is a little um for you so apparently like gossiping is like seen as a bad thing because um back in the day right

like women used to gossip and that's how they used to find out which men were like bad and like things like that so gossiping is apparently a really really bad thing like it's a social thing right from that apparently oh dead edge alleged alleged i'm just repeating everything that's so interesting yeah and it makes sense doesn't it yeah it does make sense because yeah i feel like if you're told that your gossip it's not necessarily a good thing but i mean i love a gossip but only when it's like i would never gossip about my friends yeah yeah for sure i just gossip about with me arched enemies oh yeah same fucking cunts no i'm joking i'm joking pricks also sorry that previous episode

with the spell honey where is that spell you were meant to email in oh my god yeah give the spell? Where's the spell? Give us the spell. I think she must stop watching. Oh no. Probably she hates us. No, she loves us.

We were so on her side. Was that? Yeah, we were so on her side. Yes. This is about the girl who the ex was groominging the 16 year old. If you haven't heard that story, lads, listen to the previous episode. It is fucking wild. Yeah, it was a wild one.

Yeah. But yeah, I think, in the essence of that, red flag, still have a gossip yeah fuck men and fuck the arch enemies yeah fair sorry this this episode

to come back was just a bit fucking man wasn't it was a bit chaotic but you know what at least you've got something that they're listening to on the train home

you know on the train to work you're going to fucking work you got me and you look like this a little a little bit anyways right

listen we're going to leave it there though because I feel like I'm starting to fucking desote yeah fair don't start seeing

fucking demons and something I'm going to wake up now at the witching hour and the devil's hour whatever the fuck is called tonight I'm going to be traumatised I'm actually going for a same bath right now so I'm going to enjoy that

I'm going to heal my nervous system yeah girl after watching conjuring and make sure you send your dialemise in send in your red flag green flag and am I the villain because we're going to unpick it together we're going to get through

we're going to get through tears if it's the last thing that we do but yeah follow like subscribe as well please follow us on YouTube please yes please do please do thank you Thank you. And we'll see you at the next episode.

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