Wild2Mild Podcast - Ep 15. MH Medication Stigma, Dating Fiascos & Workplace Flirts

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

Email us 💕This week, Bethan and Nicole are back with the perfect mix of chaos and clarity. Nicole’s been deep in her healing era - think breathwork sessions at Third Space and Bethan talkings abo...ut the stigma behind mental health medication. The girls are in their era of connecting their mind & body.They’re breaking down the good, bad, and occasionally delusional sides of dating, and Nicole spills on her Real Housewives of Beverly Hills experience (yes, it’s as iconic as it sounds)Then it’s time for Red Flag or Green Flag, where the girls weigh in on your dilemmas:🚩 “I’ve been seeing someone for a few weeks — they love to party, but they’re so kind and chill when we’re together. Is this a red flag or just modern dating?”💌 “My manager keeps sending late-night ‘work’ messages with a flirty tone - should I flirt back or keep it strictly professional?”Expect laughs, lessons, and a little light therapy - it’s your weekly reminder that healing and being a hot mess can coexist.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Wilder Mal podcast with your host, Beth and Care Show. And your host, Nicole O'Brien. Hey, girls. Hey girls. Hey, girls. How are you girls? I missed your girls. Missed your girls.
Starting point is 00:00:13 It's been one week. We missed your lots. We've got a good few things to catch up on. Yeah, we do. Right. So basically, we're just doing red flag, green flag and dilemmas. We're scrapping am I the villain. Because we don't like judging you.
Starting point is 00:00:26 We don't like judging you, yeah. Felt really bad. Do you know that we're getting off the podcast? right and we're literally like paranoid yeah and like oh my god like are people going to actually hate us because we're so judgmental yeah am i the villain yes i am we actually we're the villains so ignore us we're the villains yeah we're so sorry we're so sorry um but yeah let's have a little catch up firstly can i just say okay guys this is going to sound so bougie and it's not like i'm not a boozy person really but i did join third space right now but i'm okay it's about 240 quid and
Starting point is 00:01:00 it's a lot of money but I'm purposely not going out and buying anything else but I'm putting it all towards my mental health and when I tell you I feel fucking fantastic I'm so jealous I'm doing the sauna every day I'm doing the steam room every day
Starting point is 00:01:15 and now I probably will get bored with because I want to make the most of my money I'm doing reformer at classes in Pilates every single day I'm doing the steam room sauna every day I'm fucking sick of it but I really am making myself go but I do feel good many for it. That's so good. And I feel like, you know, going to like a nice gym and like obviously
Starting point is 00:01:35 things like this is like it's so expensive. But on a night out, I would spend 100 quid on drinks. Yeah, for sure. I think like when you saw actually weighing it up on how much you would actually spend on like takeaways. Yeah. Or because like you're paying about 20 pound for one take. We like we paid well yesterday me and you paid between us 31 pound for wing stop. That's like 15 pound each. That's ridiculous. That's for one meal. That's 15 pound for one meal. that is ridiculous so when you start weighing up and actually start like cooking at home and then you start like you're probably best off spending that money towards that but I think because it's one big chunk and you think oh my god there's another tire extra ever coming on me bang fuck ah yeah literally
Starting point is 00:02:16 but it's so good because then you get access to all the classes as many as you want as well yeah I did yoga for the first time you'd be so proud of me how did you think so I thought it was stunning okay I've never done yoga before nice they did this like a technique for the breathing which I said to you briefly last week yeah yeah so you breathe in through your stomach then through your lungs then then like up by your throat or something and it like calms your nervous system and I was like oh my god stunning so I felt so good and I've been consciously trying to do these techniques over the past like a few days nice and what's breathwork is that yeah yeah so love that and I know you're big into that as well I love I haven't done it for a long
Starting point is 00:02:53 time just because I'm just not good at it you've got to keep doing it to be actually good at it Really? Yeah, of course. It's like a muscle. It's like going to the gym. Oh, yeah. Like you're breathing. Like, because if you think about it, normally, like everyone has that normal kind of baseline breathing, like that automatic breathing, haven't there?
Starting point is 00:03:12 And then obviously like when you're conscious breathing, like breathwork, that's different to just autopilot. Yeah. It's like when you go up the gym, like you don't just know what you're doing in the gym. That's so true. Breathworks like another thing that you have to learn the same as meditation. Like you have to learn it. you have to train it it's a muscle that's so interesting and mine to it's like connection mind to body as well isn't it like you have to be really oh i'm so not connected remember when i had that um
Starting point is 00:03:38 i think it was a psychic reading or i had someone tell me anyway that oh it was my rakey my when i went to rakey ages ago she was like your mind and your body are like you are so not connected she was like you really need to work on it you're very very in your mind all the time you're always like no kind of like well what you do is you kind of think oh I can do so much and I can do this this and then you burn out because you don't listen to your body and you listen to your mind
Starting point is 00:04:05 and like basically also like what society pushes us this like hustle culture what we're so ingrained in this hustle culture I want to die I know what did you say the other day the more I live the more I want to die I was like oh my god the more I stay alive the more I want to die
Starting point is 00:04:22 the more I stay alive and like learn more things the more I'm like I want to read it but I don't no we're just definitely tongue and cheek dark humor it's yeah no tongue and cheek maybe dark humor maybe we don't say that because some people definitely get triggered yeah no let's let's yeah we don't mean it like that yeah um but tell me about you
Starting point is 00:04:41 you're living your best life recently I am so obviously I'm on the meds on it and I feel so fucking locked in like I honestly wish I'd started started it sooner but I do definitely think that um I fell so victim to the like stigma because I thought I could do it alone but at the same time there's this stigma of like oh like when you you know you've got bad mental health but then it's like there's no stigma when you've got a cold and you need to take things for your immune system so why is there a stigma when you've got
Starting point is 00:05:14 a puali brain that's so true like so you've you've got a flu you go and get some fucking lemps and some night nurse there's no stigma gains that medication so why is the stigma gains medication you've got like low serotonin or dysregulated serotonin that's so true but you know what's so crazy i can notice such a big difference in you like it's actually wild like things that you would get so stressed over yeah and like have like a panic attack over it's it's so crazy because i can see it like there's such a difference in you so bizarre it's so mad like you just seem more calm more happy yeah more like content like you're not stressed yeah yeah yeah then i'm obviously in the corner fucking yeah yeah like the and all the anxiety kind of seems a little bit like like chill now
Starting point is 00:06:10 like i'm not really as anxious yeah like well went to um tully's farm like a few weeks ago and i don't like interviews and everything and don't get what i was rambling and and i'm very unfilled at me like I'm not media trained as much as I've had a little bit of media training it hasn't ingrained it hasn't sunk in I don't know what it is what is media what does it mean yeah what does it mean what I don't get it
Starting point is 00:06:34 I'm very socially not attuned do know what I mean I do think you're you were quite good at the interviews I did actually punch her in the bomb for one point I was going to slag someone off yeah I was behind her and I had my arm I just punched her in the bomb I was like, stop.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I was gonna, I know, I was gonna, I know, I was gonna out someone. Yeah. Little bitch, no. I knew where it was going. I knew it was going. I knew it was not. No, it wasn't. I was just, I just said, listen, like, if you're planning on getting into TV or even
Starting point is 00:07:05 in this industry, keep your fucking wits about you, because people will do anything and climb over you, and they'll villainise you, and they'll play the victim, and they'll do this, and they'll lie, and they'll cheat and cover it up, and they'll fucking be a cut. No, but like, there's some fucking weirdos in this industry, proper weirdos.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I know. I'm not an angel. I've done some fucked up shape. We all have. We all have. But at the same time, like, keep me wits about you.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It's a very hard industry to be in, like, when you fall into the wrong, you know, 100%. And I think because, like, with TV and stuff and even social media,
Starting point is 00:07:43 like, you do have to be different in order to gain an audience and to be showcased for entertainment. Like, your, like your brain has to work a different way and obviously when people get cast for certain things
Starting point is 00:07:54 you do get some characters then, because you've got people that have got like no prefrontal cortex I'm sure you haven't developed a prefrontal cortex because how are you doing that? Weird. I know, but that's it. Terrified.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Have you? That's it though and that's why and then we're hanging around and then obviously we're clearly not there fully either we've been cast for it so it's like do you know what I mean? But back in the day when you think about it like
Starting point is 00:08:18 I was a what I just I honestly I still had the same kind of anxiety but just not as now like the way that I am now and I think now I'm like so I don't know like what's what's happened in my life where I'm just so terrified to speak no I feel like do you know it's we talked about this in previous episodes anyway it's just the older that we get in the prefrontal cortex closing but tolly is like you actually so we went into like a maze and it was like if you were claustrophobic you would fucking die like it was like yeah it was like it was like a bouncy so if you can imagine like when you know the um thing for a bouncy castle but it was like in the walkway so the maze was literally like like just one like line going like that but it was like you were squished in between a bounty castle casual casual casual casual so you were like squished like this and you'd have to squeeze through this but it was it was awful like and then people would be jumping out of you but beth and fell she fell the floor under the bouncy castle i was looking up and there was literally a slither of the light like and i was like freaking out trying to like pull you up and then because you were stuck underneath
Starting point is 00:09:28 but i was all right i didn't panic no but that's it like you didn't panic and usually and people jumping out of you and stuff like the nervous system be fucking done it wasn't too bad no you were grand so it's like i can notice such a difference it's so mad and because i feed off people's energy i'm like i can feel it as well yeah which is so nice i'm like oh my god yeah it's stunning it's That's so cute. Yeah. I'm just chill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So honestly, if this, again, like, I don't want to, you know, kind of push, but this is just my experience. So if you were considering it, this is my experience. This is how I feel. But obviously, you need to have your discernment on how you feel and make sure. Because I know it's different for everyone. It is. I just personally wish I'd tried it soon.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I really fucking do. Because guess what? It's worked. It's worked. And you know what? nothing's stopping us now. Exactly. She's a fucking powerhouse now, lads.
Starting point is 00:10:22 But also it did, like, it did take you a few weeks, didn't it? It took us a long time. And the doctor was like, oh, it'll kind of settle in, like, maybe the first two, three days might be a bit bad. No, it was the full two weeks for me. I was getting work and I thought, oh my God. In fact, I might even push it to say three. And now I'm on the sixth or like, this is the seventh week maybe.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Wow. And now I'm like, you know what? But it's worth it, though, isn't it? But this is when it's meant to really start settling. and then after 12 weeks is when you should be really starting to say it that's mad isn't it? So yeah and that well I think after I have six to eight
Starting point is 00:10:56 weeks is when you adjust the dose okay and I'm only on the lowest dose as well oh my gosh such a lot I know like this is so exciting for you yeah so I think like maybe am I don't know see after like 12 weeks on if I need to open or not because it just depends on how your brain reacts to it really on whether you need more
Starting point is 00:11:14 and I think I've been fucking chronically depressed me like I'm always catastrophes and everything like for so long I've always knew like I've always kind of struggled with my mental health like I've always struggled with my mental health as long as I can remember yeah so well I'm so proud of you this is so exciting so exciting
Starting point is 00:11:31 can I just say right so basically in like previous I think it was maybe like six episodes ago we discussed this guy who basically stalked us on the night out oh my gosh yeah one second this laptop keeps shutting off there we go so basically yeah six episodes
Starting point is 00:11:49 so we discussed this guy who came to stalk me and my friend on the night out a guy who I had been went on two dates with yeah so I was out recently and we were in a pub now I say recently this is like last week we were in a pub and
Starting point is 00:12:06 like I was sober because I had a few drinks like in the night but then I was on the water because I was just like I didn't want to be hung over and I still was like dancing with my friends and whatnot like I was it was quite busy and we went back anyway for like a drink after in my friend's house and um then I get a text from the guy who stalked me being like seeing you in whatever the pub's name was but didn't come say hi and then do you know that emoji like the smirking emoji I find that
Starting point is 00:12:35 emoji fucking creepy do you know the one where it's like the little smirk on the side the smirk on the side like it depends how you use it but I do think it can be fucking creepy so he just goes seeing you in the pub name um but didn't come say hi and i was just like that's fine do you not think that's weird because like if i seen someone i would obviously just go over and say hello but i feel like maybe that's just me but don't what is there like oh my god guys i'm triggered by bugs we'll get into that in a second but like i found that weird i don't like don't text me if you didn't even come over and say hello i just a lads i didn't text back anyway i mean i know what i want it's not him
Starting point is 00:13:11 sorry if you're listening to this podcast like i just can't be fucked at the end of the day like if you're actually like that. I'm so uninteresting day and like beyond belief. Like I'm so uninterested. This is the most uninterested I've ever been in men and that is like I have went through a phase of my life where I was man upset, man obsessed. Like I look back now and I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that I put them so highly in my little, in my little like whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Brain. Yeah. Put them so hard. I thought that they were amazing. They're actually not one bit. No. No about them. And I don't care if I come across.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I'm not here. I'm not fucking ass. Deal with it. Yeah, I just, I've no interest in dating. Yeah. I'm not arse. Yeah. I'm not arse if you're offended. Yeah. Fuck it's like. Who cares? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:13:57 You're offended? All right, well, I'm offended when you send me fucking awful messages or dickpicks, dickpicks. Oh my God, the worst. Like, sorry. What girl wants to see your dick pick? Not me. I'm so sorry, but not. Not me. I'm not, I don't even think I'm actually attracted to men.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Now that I really think, I think I've been conditioned into it, yeah? Oh, fucking how. because like not once have I ever looked at like a penis and thought oh yeah not not I mean they're not very pretty though are they not but then when I speak to people who are like who do obviously love the men like especially say like the gays they love dick yeah they love it and they openly say how much to love it and like you know like putting in their mouth and that now I'm not about it yeah no I get that I get that do you get it nah I don't they're just not very pretty looking right yeah I'm so honestly I think it's nice you know like let's just now there's christmas like coming up to christmas and all that and like it's just autumn i'm like so happy to be indoors cozy with my cat like yes yes can't be fucked for dating and i and i and i feel like as well like every time like yeah there's good there is good points in date and of course there is like people wouldn't do it if there wasn't like it is nice getting a cuddle off the love one but at the same time it can be the other way as well yeah
Starting point is 00:15:11 course it could be fucking really really awful traumatic yeah course so like i'm just like, you know what? Like, is it worth it? If it's meant to happen, it will happen. Like, I just feel like, at this rate, I'm... I'm just happy with my friends. I'm happy with me friends. I'm happy with, like, pursuing me goals.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. And you know what? Like, listen, I'm not, like, shut off to it, but I'm certainly actively not looking for it. I'm actively certainly not looking and... Well, I'm not even replying to people's messages or DMs. That's how much I'm not asked. If I bump in the industry and you put it on us,
Starting point is 00:15:42 don't put it on us because it will scare us. But I'm like, you know, I'm just, I don't know, I'm not interested. In fact, that's it. That's just the end of it. I'm not interested. Yeah, to be fair, I'm not actively looking. But if it does find me then, okay, whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah. Sorry, before we get on to the red flags and green flags and all that jazz, if we have any Real Housewives of Beverly Hills fans watching, I, guys, you won't believe it. So basically, like weeks ago, I went to a Real Housewives event. It was like an intimate event for Sutton. So if you know who Sutton is from the Real House of Beverly Hills, she's iconic so i went to like her bag event and we did like some content together whatever
Starting point is 00:16:20 anyway i thought it'd be cheeky and i uploaded a post after but i added her as a collaborator and i was like uh she probably won't accept after like a day or two she accepted it no way so guys yeah we've got a collaborative post which in my brain i'm like oh that is so iconic and then we had like denise richards and all the real house so i was like like it and i was just like i was just in my fucking element do you know what's so bizarre right to me like this might be off subject but like ah my brain is really going weird when it comes to like you know when you like say someone you really idolize them I don't know what I feel a bit weird because like then we have sometimes have had people do that for us yeah and I'm like I feel I don't know what I'm like
Starting point is 00:17:03 you know when people like look at like say Kim Kardashian and they're like oh my god and you've got like these fans and stuff why do I not have a feeling like that for anyone I think like when you're in this industry for a while you kind of just realized but like even like someone like to look up to and like be inspired by dr aman for you oh yeah true oh yes i think if you met dr a man and dr jor dispenser yeah yeah yeah yeah so right yeah yeah yeah maybe it's just not like pop pop culture off i'm not i like i like neuroscientists i like um somatic work as i like i think that's why this podcast works because you're so into all that and i am too but you're way more
Starting point is 00:17:44 into it and then I'm into the pop culture side yes yes it's a nice when she's like seeing who
Starting point is 00:17:48 like what who's a Sutton Sutton you had no idea no but like not in a mean way
Starting point is 00:17:55 I just don't know anyone really pop culture vibes I know some people but I kind of know like most in the fact
Starting point is 00:18:02 I'm fucking rabble on ramble yeah tell us to shut up yeah tell us to shut up and get on to the fucking red flag
Starting point is 00:18:08 green flag like really tells us to shut my mouth right let's have a look. Will we do dilemma or red flag green flag first? I'll have a look. Why don't, would you...
Starting point is 00:18:21 Have a little look. We'll have a look. We'll have a look. What is that even from? Is it a TikTok? We'll have a look. We'll have a look. Right, it looks like we're doing red flag green flag first. Okay. Right. So, Hey girls, I've been dating for someone. I've been dating someone for a few weeks. I can't read this. I wish you'd. Show me this. um hey girls i've been dating someone for a few weeks and i'm confused they constantly post about
Starting point is 00:18:49 partying and their crazy nights on social media but when we hang out they're chilled kind and surprisingly thoughtful i love spending time with them but should i worry about the wild side or is it just them having fun red flag or green flag need your advice hmm oh wait i'm going to sneeze oh smoothie time time for sorry right in the mic right in the mic right in the mic Nice. Do everyone like that town? That's so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Red flag or green flag? What do you think? Listen, I'm not asked about partying anymore. I don't think it's necessarily a green flag for someone who parties to be nice. Like, some people just like the party. No, I think she was saying, though, that like he parties quite a lot. But then he's so thoughtful when it's like one-on-one and she's like, is the partying a red-fly green flag?
Starting point is 00:19:41 That's what I gathered from that. maybe let's let's should we read it again you know what I see the brains the brains the brains they're constantly post about partying and their crazy nights on social media but when we hang out they're chill kind and surprisingly thoughtful should I worry about the wild side I mean sometimes it yeah I feel like if that always got it depends on what you want like if you're not really a wild style kind of person then like like For me personally, people partying all the time. I just wouldn't want to, like...
Starting point is 00:20:19 Not that I wouldn't want to hang out. I just wouldn't hang out with them. People who party all the time because that's not really my thing anymore. Like, I don't go out partying all the time. So naturally, I wouldn't really hang out with people who go out all the time. Yeah, I think it depends.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I'm very, I've changed a lot. I'm very introverted now. I love sitting in the house. I love doing fuck all. Yeah. It just brings more happiest jobs. Yeah, my favourite thing to do is literally sit on the soul.
Starting point is 00:20:43 fan to fuck all and I don't even care. Stunning. I'm actually over the hustle culture and I'll... It's a shit-kiss. I want to be... Yeah, you know what? I'm a slob. Yeah, yeah. I'm a little slob. A couch potato. I'm couched potato. Oh, I get over it.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I think if he's going out partying like constantly like every weekend... Is it in? Did she say boyfriend? Fuck knows. I don't know. The per... If they... If they are out partying every weekend and like two... Like Friday night and Saturday night
Starting point is 00:21:11 and stuff like that and you're just into that um i don't necessarily oh yeah dating someone okay sorry it never goes in one time why can i know same though especially when i read stuff i can't take it in when i'm reading it why can't i it doesn't go in yeah what is wrong you know what my brain's mush and also do you know what i've got three of brain spells yeah you got three brain spells i've got three brain cells honestly but even with books and stuff like i can't read books i've read one book i've said this before i sure i'll call it all autobiography that's all I've read I've read half of good life good vibes or whatever because because I have to keep reading the chapters over and over and over and over like it just going
Starting point is 00:21:53 it doesn't go in like I remember in school when I was like 10 I try oh my God we're so going off track here but anyway I tried to read a book and it was like some fucking fictional book whatever and I remember distinctively sat in the school yard trying to read the first chapter and I had to read it about 20 times over the course of three days because I couldn't remember what I'd read. I can't read books anything just, it needs to be audio for me. Right. Constantly. I can't. You know what I struggle with
Starting point is 00:22:23 right? I like, it's terrible this. I can deal with the short form content. It goes in with short form. But I love nonfiction. Really? Yeah, I do. I love fucking like just, I love smutty shit. I love it. Is that what's nonfiction?
Starting point is 00:22:42 is no wait actually sorry fiction is fake nonfiction oh sorry I love nonfiction wait a lot fact no I love fiction oh yeah fiction oh yeah fiction I hate that shit I love fiction I love smutty shit I love like like sex I love like
Starting point is 00:22:58 drama I love stuff and that's what I can really engage in because you really are just switching your brain off I just think this constant like thing of input my brain can't take it anymore my nervous system can't take it anymore I'm waking up every single single day my whole my shoulders are literally right up there to me fucking little dangly earlobes right and it's because i'm just there's too much information going in i'm done with it now i don't want
Starting point is 00:23:22 to listen i don't want any more information i'm shattered yeah i'm fucking tired yeah anyway back to the right yeah yeah um well i pace for me personally i'm not asked about that like i wouldn't kind of be i wouldn't be hanging out with people all the time if they're constantly partying yeah i mean and like posting it all it depends on how old you are and like whatever I personally it just depends on how nice they are depends on the crack but
Starting point is 00:23:51 I think if it's getting in the way of your relationship where you can't see them like for like two to three days a week or they I don't know if it's guy girl day then that will be a red flag if it's getting in the way of that it doesn't sound like it is though
Starting point is 00:24:05 because they're saying that they're really nice and like thoughtful but then I think it's a green flag I think like things have changed in society where like people don't go out as much and whatnot I'm kind of like it's nearly deemed as bad which is like I still go out like I'll go out like maybe a couple of times a month whatever like just go to the pub and whatnot like nothing fucking crazy I'm not coming home at like 6am anymore yeah um even though
Starting point is 00:24:26 I actually did that recently and it was the most vile experience of my life never again ever ever ever ever like it was like uh vile but anyway um I haven't done that in years and I think like that's just not a thing anymore really but I think personally I don't think it's a red flag if he's or they are showing attention and being thoughtful and stuff i wouldn't i personally wouldn't deem it as a red flag well maybe you would i well i don't know because it's all through the it's all through the lens of your own experiences yeah really but if it was you if it would be a red flag yeah it would be a red flag yeah because i'm 30 years old now yeah i don't want someone going out all the fucking time because i i don't want someone going out all the fucking time
Starting point is 00:25:11 because I don't like going out all the time. So like... Depends what you're looking for yourself. Yeah, exactly. Like, I would rather be a couch potato with someone. Yeah. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So if any... No, actually, I don't want anyone, fuck off. I take it all back. I don't want... But like, if I did, I would want to just be that... I'm chilled now. I'm relaxing.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah. I'm relaxing and just, you know, living my life and just doing what I want to do, right? Based on what you've said to me, I think that's not a red flag. I don't necessarily think it's a green flag. I don't call it a beige flag. Yeah, because I don't think it's a beige flag.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah, because I don't think it's a green flag. Why don't we call it a white flag? We give up. Yeah. We fucking surrender. We surrender now. We give off. But yeah, for me, I don't, I don't think that's the red flag.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But listen, honey, you do you. You do you, honey. We support whatever you do. You know what I mean? What makes you happy?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah. Okay. Do you want me to read this out? Yes. Maybe we should. Okay. So this is a dilemma. Hey, girls, I need your take on this because I'm torn.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I've been at my job. for two years and recently my managers started flirting with me oh god it's it's like oh god oh actually I true no he's not in control managers
Starting point is 00:26:21 yeah it's subtle but definitely there compliments late night messages about work stuff that kind of thing here's the thing I actually like the attention and part of me is tempted to see where it goes but another part of me knows it could blow up
Starting point is 00:26:34 in my face if it gets messy I also don't want to ruin my reputation and make things awkward at work so do I lean into the fun and see what happens or do I keep a strictly professional and pretend it's not happening um don't shit where you eat isn't that the phrase and also it is hard though you know because of like proximity like you know that thing about you like say when you're in the workplace and stuff and like it's like proximity is kind of start dating each of that's all very kind of like if you're spending
Starting point is 00:27:01 like what is it if you're working like you're spending 80% of your time with those people do you know what I mean choose your job wisely yeah I mean I knew someone who ended up, just like I'm not friends with this person anymore and this is, you will, I feel like this is actually a recurring theme whenever I'm like, oh, I know, no this person and I don't say a bad thing. I'm like, I'm not friends with them anymore. But anyway, where she ended up getting with her boss, but the boss had a newborn baby and a family. How awful is that? equally I get it from like like literally get some fucking self-respect from a woman's point of view but equally he's oh it's one with a fucking kid and like at the end of the day it's his responsibility it's his response 100% but that's what I'm saying is like you just need to be careful obviously you haven't mentioned this guy like where's your morals like where's your morals like stop getting with fucking men with kids yeah exactly like and then yeah because he was
Starting point is 00:28:02 still I think he still was with the wife oh yeah like like it was giving a fair thing from what i remember it was ages ago but anyway yeah i think with this don't shit where you eat like and if you want a shit where you eat get with the fucking CEO yeah get with the rich CEO don't be getting like your manager get with the richest one if you got a shit when you eat get with the richest one stop get mother fucking manager yeah exactly literally like stop it just yeah dead right or else do you know what if you did work to see where it went and whatnot have i have another fucking job interview lined up and then if it was going if it was going well with your manager then you can just take it as it comes yeah take it as it comes
Starting point is 00:28:38 like say how we do hear stories like of some people meeting at work and like being together like i've met people who've met at work i think it just depends on the situation which what we say in every fucking dilemma depends on the situation but like yeah if he's single if he's like got money if he can give you a good life if he's nice yeah um yeah i think he's single if he's like um yeah i think fuck I actually don't know because what would you do if you were like in a situation where like you are
Starting point is 00:29:09 with someone at work your manager and he's been a little bit flirty and you do fancy if he was single and he was flirting and I did fancy him not going to lie I would probably entertain it oh really yeah now that I'm thinking about it I actually probably would and even though the yeah even though I said you shouldn't shit where you eat like it's
Starting point is 00:29:25 same out oh shit where are you yeah I think you know that's such an awful I do not like that it's a manc phrase yeah it's actually stop saying that yeah let's um i would probably go for it yeah so i know that i think about it i probably would i probably would oh god yeah now that i'm really putting myself in her shoes i probably would and like the flirting in the office and stuff but it's fun but this is the thing it's fun when it's like yeah you'd enjoy the job you would enjoy that yeah because it would be a little yeah it would be
Starting point is 00:29:56 better because like work so fucking boring isn't it but if you had someone there like that was like come over i gave me attention a little bit of a flute yeah the only thing is then you're going to have to get all dolled up every fucking day. Not at all. Who cares? Well, yeah, that's true. That's true. I think, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:10 Go for it. If you're single, go for it. Do it. This laptop keeps going off. But, like, what happens if it goes off? Does it, like, well? No, it doesn't. I'm just anxious, a little fairy.
Starting point is 00:30:25 But yeah, I think go for it. That's what I would probably do. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? My God. And I think just take it as it comes, because at the end of the day, could actually turn and like maybe we need to like I need to fucking change I need to do some
Starting point is 00:30:37 cognitive behavioural therapy me I need to change my mindset because I'm very like always like I feel like I'm very much on the negative side of things a lot of the time and I know that this is a defence mechanism from and I know that this is me body protecting us I get that equally stop protecting us because literally you're making us a fucking miserable little bitch no I think protect us for once please I will deal with it the way that I've dealt with everything which is literally fine. Maybe I was traumatized a few times and I literally took his months to get out of bed. But that's fine. We're here now. You're grand. Yeah. Taking as it comes. Like if it does, if it works, if it works out really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And you end up getting married and like you have a good life. And like you don't necessarily have to have kids and like you literally, it's just used to like for the whole of your marriage and it's just gorgeous the whole time. Like we watched Sex and City last night. Yeah, we did and it's really inspired us to never ever date. I do never have kids. That's just a personal opinion, obviously, on both of us. Like, I think... But then at the same time, that's so cute.
Starting point is 00:31:40 They do say when you meet someone, like, you ought to... If you're in love with someone, like, you want half of you and half of them. Like, I've never had that experience because I actually don't think I've ever been in love. Like, I think I've had lost. But I don't think I've ever been in love. Yes. No, I think I've been in love. I've definitely think I've been in love.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Nah, I've fucking done that. I feel like you'd know if you were in love. Like, you would want to do everything. I don't know, I think because I was very, very, like, anxious attachment. So I just think that, like, I had so much work to do on myself. Like, and even now, like, I just think, like, I'm not even, even not just for myself, but for the other person as well, I can't be asked with the drama because I know how I am. I know kind of, like, that I do need a bit more reassurance because of fucking experiences
Starting point is 00:32:25 from people where they've betrayed me trust. And that's fine, though. I get that, but at the same time, can't be asked. Can't be asked. explaining it to someone can't be asked to deal with it again I'm not the mood I'm fair enough fair enough I'm exhausted I can't be honest now yeah I just I'll give up now yeah I'm done yeah well I think do know what honey go for it that that that would be my opinion on that to that yeah um but yeah we we do love your dilemmas guys so you need to
Starting point is 00:32:52 keep sending them in yes I like the big long long dilemmas you know when they're like really going in there I want a story what was your favourite one like off the top of your head that we've done can you think of any that was the favorite i know what mine was i think i think it was about the 16 year old same really because that was that was it like whoa that was i was like it's mad that like people like it's it's just mad that like there's so many things going on in life and then you know what i mean oh also that girl did send in the spell we just missed oh yeah we missed the dm shit so she did send in the spell we've got the spell we have the spell guys so fucking watch out all of our enemies. What was the spell for it was like getting rid of like
Starting point is 00:33:33 or something like that yeah yeah energy clearing and cutting codes and stuff wasn't it? Yes yes so maybe I said I had about seven people I needed to cut codes before yeah yeah perfect well we might do that tonight well we yeah um but yeah so we're going to head into town now and do some shopping yeah um make sure you send in your dilemmas and if you've got any situations where you think oh is this a red flag is it a green flag? I don't know. I'm all caught up in my feelys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Because we've had that so many times, haven't we? So many times. And if you just need someone else's opinion or something. And someone who isn't involved in it. We're actually not good at that because we're not direct. We're jumping back. But then again, we need to unpick it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:34:13 We're picking it in real time. Yeah. Our brains can't go straight a decision. We really need to weigh up the pros and cons. Yes. Do you know what I mean? Yes. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:23 I always think it's good to like get someone else's opinion on stuff who isn't involved in the situation and who aren't your, friends who like don't know the people so anything you want advice on guys just send it in yeah send it to the wild to mild podcast at jmail.com and you can email uh sorry you can dm both of us as well if you want to send it through ds yeah um and then also we do put little q and a boxers on our instagram stories every now and then so keep a fucking eye out right you can turn your notifications on for our profiles oh yes and then you'll get a little notification whenever we'll post some stuff on that yeah I might even do it in um because I've got a group chat as call
Starting point is 00:35:02 can I speak what did I even see there I've got a group chart called the wellness babes on my Instagram so I'll do a little I'll do a little Q&A box in there as well good idea good idea and we'll get some of the girls over yes yes my little gorgeous girlies I want to fucking kiss you on the third eye chakra but yeah thank you so much for tuning again we adore us we love you we love you and please yeah so please subscribe to our youtube channel as well we've got some little goals in place and we want to try and spread our message we do we do we love you last you're a fucking bad bitch yeah love yourself you're a bad bee and we'll see you in the next episode see you oh bye bye

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