Wild2Mild Podcast - Ep. 7 Signs, Synchronicities & Sacking Off Situationships 🔮

Episode Date: August 10, 2025

Send us a textIn this episode of Wild 2 Mild, Bethan Kershaw and Nicole O’Brien dive into the blurry line between intuition and delusion and whether those signs from the universe are actually real or just wishful thinking.They talk about the moments where manifestation actually worked, feeling psychic-level intuitive and what those butterflies and visits from loved ones might really mean. They also get into spiritual burnout (yes, it’s a thing), why you shouldn’t rely on psychics for every decision and when it’s time to sack the man off and trust yourself instead.Oh, and if you’re on Co–Star? So are they. Don't pretend the moon hasn’t ruined your whole week at least once...Subscribe for weekly episodes full of signs, serendipity, and unfiltered soul chat.

The thing is, is it a sign or are we're just delusional? Is it a sign from the universe? Yeah. Or are we genuinely not in our right minds? I feel like it's probably definitely, yeah, it's definitely not in our right minds. I love to just believe the universe has everything in my favour. It's all going so well, even when it's not. Then I freak out a lot.

I do. But, yeah. Do you know what? I really try and see the positive, so I really do try and think like, you know, the universe does things and it works in mysterious ways and it tries to get you to grow and evolve and develop and the things that happen to you that are a bit shit, it's character development. And I do genuinely believe that. Redirection. I do genuinely believe that like you're meant to experience things. Yeah. Even though they're really painful and hurtful and, you know, not good. Yeah. Even when I'm having like such a shit day, like the worst or like whatever it may be. And I see 11-11 on that microwave and I know everything's going to be okay. So I don't care if it is true or not as long as it helps me.

Yeah, that's what I think. It's all that matters. It's a helpful mindset to have when you believe that the universe is in your favor. Yeah. I never used to be that spiritual like years ago. obviously I'm from like a Catholic family and all that so we always believed in something but I think spirituality I'm so invested in it like manifestations like I love all that I need to do it more but like a lot of the stuff so basically when I was 16 I wrote down on some paper like everything I wanted

to do with my life just like goals and aspirations and after I did too hot to handle or maybe a year after and I released music and it was in the charts in Ireland and here in the UK and the club charts. My mom found it and it was like, I want to be on TV, I want to do this, I want to be a musician, I want to be a singer, I want to be in the charts and she was like, how crazy is that you manifested this. Yeah. Even when I didn't mean to, like I was only 16, I didn't understand about manifestation. I never knew what it was at that age. Yeah.

But that's insane. So I do think it's so powerful, the universe, it's, it's, it's unbelievable. yeah 100% yeah 100% I think I used to be very and I wouldn't say my thought process on it is like the whole concept of like spirituality it's got such a like name to it so like you might you might have to have the most crystals or you might have to know the most about chakras and all of this stuff but at the end of the day like no matter where you are on your journey you are spirit yeah no matter if you believe in the universe or if you don't believe in the universe, you are spiritual because you are a spirit inside of your body. So then I just think like I did used to look at the universe and be like I did used to think, oh my God, this is a sign? Like how weird is it that we literally have our moms are both the same name or you know

like sometimes you when you meet people and then like yeah, I remember there was a guy that I was speaking to literally for like two days. two days and we're FaceTime and I remember we're on the FaceTime and we're like looking at each of that

and we're both then at the same time God you've got lovely eyes same time and we were like whoa that was mad considering we didn't know each of that was just quite bizarre

and then we found out that when mams both have the same name that's weird isn't that I know so we were like whoa what more and then it ended literally you just went

Yeah, and abruptly, I just didn't reply. Oh, right, okay, fair enough, it was on you. Yeah, well, no, it wasn't on me. So listen to this, right, so obviously, taunting this guy, meant to be taking this out on the weekend. I was speaking to him all week. He was in a different city, work, and then he was like, oh, listen, he was on the FaceTime, it was,

and he was like, oh, listen, I've got to go, I'll bring you back in two minutes. Yeah. This friend from work springing. I was like, oh, yeah, no, but that. Five minutes went past, and he texted saying, to give us five minutes. Yeah.

And I was like, all right, okay. he said he had to go and saw some van out or something, right? I was like, yeah, no bother. Anyways, so I'm pottering around, right? Completely forget he was meant to be messaging it. And I was like, God, I'm getting really tired now. Looks at my phone. I went past.

And I was like, I'm going to message. Had a message. Hadn't rang back. So I was like, fuck this. I'm fucking so. Like you, I'm sorry, but this whole, this whole keep them mean, keep them keen. Doesn't work on me. I literally get the ick with you very quickly.

Like, if you go on like that, I'm like, eh, weird. No, that works for me all the time. Oh, does it? Yeah. He texts, so two hours later, because I woke up the next morning with a text being like, sorry, babe, I had to go and salt the van out, and I was just so annoyed, that's why I didn't ring you back, and I was like, ugh. Yeah, no, that's that.

So I just like, no, and he was meant to take it out that weekend, and I was like, no, because I was like, oh. That's mad, isn't it? Oh, God. I was like, oh, no, I'm not dealing with that. It's just, it gives weird energy. It's like, nah. Yeah. I got a gut feeling well.

I was just like, this is weird. I don't know. Maybe I'm just too, like... No, I think it's good. Sack it off. If it's not there, like, I've said this time and time again, like, lads will make it known if they're interested or not.

Yeah, I mean. Yeah, so anyway, so... Well, we're on. So, yeah, so anyways, that was the signs. But the sign... I used to let the signs of the universe, I would have pursued that, because I've already been like,

what a co-winky dinkie-dink. I know. But both said that at the same time. And then, well, moms are called the same name, like, very coingie-dinky, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think with science from the universe, I think it obviously depends on the situation. But like, I always look into it. So basically, like if we're going to go deep here, this is such a crazy thing. So basically, a family member of mine was like terminally ill last year. My mom then would see butterflies everywhere. Like everywhere, they'd be in the house all the time and they would attach themselves to her. And they wouldn't leave her. They wouldn't go away. We were in New York then. Like, and then we were. And then we were. in like I think we're on like the 30th floor of this hotel that we were staying and there was no windows that you could open there was a butterfly in there attached yourself let's attach yourself

to my mom like would not let go and it constantly happens um does it still happen now every so often like he passed away but like it was like throughout when he was really ill so I think that's like my grandparents looking down on my mom being like it's okay and guiding her through it and like it really helped her like and I have a butterfly tattoo because of that but I think there I do believe in signs like a hundred percent and remember I think we were talking about this last night or than my previous my intuition this week and things I don't believe in coincidences I think it's like a sign it's definitely a sign I coincidences no no but I'd be talking about someone and I haven't heard from them in months and they'll pop up yeah like they'll send a message 20 minutes later right or I'm

about something and then it's just weird things like that have been happening me so much the past few weeks and I get like every so often I'll have a week or two of this a year which is so crazy so I think I need to go do the lottery or something because this is actually insane like so I'm just going to go to the lottery guys if I win a few millions you will never see me again I'll see you later I'll be in them all day but yeah it's insane yeah no that sounds yeah that does sound insane like that is there's definitely like oh I don't know

I feel like sometimes because there was a time in my life where I was just so but then at the same time I don't know if I went through a bit of a psychosis right so I felt like I was so in tune

with the universe and I just I felt energy so deeply and like I just really just I don't know what just like the way that my mindset was I just felt like

I was going through like a bit of a psychosis like and I just don't know if I think like that anymore so like for instance I always believe that like when people passed away like they are still here like they're not they haven't left like the souls are still here they don't leave you yeah but then I'm like I don't know that in me heart and me I genuinely believe that that was a true thing but obviously now I'm like I don't know if that is a truth like I'd like to think that's true same like it's just comfort isn't it but like yeah comforting to know that or to think that you know Yeah. And I think that's like where I was kind of with it where I felt now I feel like I went through a bit of a spiritual psychosis because I was like I really believe that they didn't leave us. Yeah. I know. Like, do you know what? I'm just obsessed with like tarot card readers. Like I went through a phase when I was like I mixed up like depression and burnout. I thought it was depression. It was burn out. And I was just so fed up of everything. And I was just so fed up of everything. I was so exhausted so I went to like tarot card readers constantly where they were actually like Nicole you're meant to be doing it twice a year you can't be going every two months right they said that to me because they were like you're going to like alternate what your reality is like or your future yeah because you meant to do it and then leave it and then leave it so like I take what these people say as Bible a gospel so like I remember one guy was like oh you're going to be like an amazing pop star and you're going to do this and that and like I'm yeah I am I'm it's going to happen but anyway besides that he was like you're going to live in

America you're going to meet your husband's going to be an NBA player oh no sorry he said sports player what NBA NBA is like a like basketball yeah yeah he was like a sports player so guys when I tell you this was three years ago to this day if I'm on Rea or on any date nap and a sports player comes up and he's living the states or wherever he is best believe i'm matching him i'm going on i'm like this guy could be my husband i've taken it as gospel like this is like not normal how much like i've gotten this into my head that this is going to happen so like yeah and i actually had joan what's so crazy one of the um the fortune teller tarot card readers um said to me be careful because you're going to get burnt out oh my god that is insane yeah that is

That is insane, and she was so right. Oh my God. She'll listen to her. Well, you know what I really love, you know what I do? So have you ever, have you ever done your birth chart? No, I've never done that. Only because my mom can't remember the exact time that I was born. It's either 2 a.m.

What's my uncle? Helen. Helen, I can't believe this. Raging. Helen, Helen, Helen, I can't believe this. Come on, Helen, we need to dig this out. I know. Because we need to figure it.

On my birth cert? It'll be on a certificate, yeah. Oh, well, I think so. I think so. Oh, I need to find that out. What's yours? I'm going to tell you right now, right? So this is...

I feel like they're quite accurate as well, aren't they? I genuinely, we believe it's so accurate. Yeah. So accurate. Go on. I was going to say, so the app that I use is called, it's called, wait, what's it called? Moon X. Moon X.

Yeah, right. And wait there, I need to say, so what is growth and expansion? that's mad isn't it do you know there's another app that I got ages ago called Coaster and it basically sends you how your feet have you ever gotten Coaster

I've seen a Coaster guys it's it's unbelievable like even if you're it'll come up with a notification in the morning about like a prediction for the day and even if you don't read it because sometimes it'll kind of set you off if it's like not a good thing

and then you come back in the evening and you read it it is accurate but like insanely accurate I found anyway so I would recommend getting co-star yeah I like this I like this moon one right so for instance wait there I don't know if I can reveal too much because I can't reveal too much I'm a little bit I don't know whether I really feel too much because I don't want to like is there any general thing that you can say because it's so in depth I know and this is the thing obviously you know I don't want to like give me haters like lay way in advice. Do you know what I mean? I'm an open book I will but I don't want to I don't want to give people well we can just tell people it's very in depth yeah it's

very in depth anyways yeah I'll show me after yeah basically it is so crazy how in depth my chore is like genuine and and like when I look back at it right it says things for instance it says like um i'm gonna have so wait there it said something along the lines of like with work right i need to be in an in a stable environment yeah because if i don't if i'm not in a stable environment it's going to really negatively impact my mental health and what happened the last job that i had that's mad exactly the last tv job that i had i feel like people are also going to like so things with this and i have gotten because i'm obviously i love all this as well as you but people say that's a bit not taboo but like bullshit basically because people can be like okay well

no one can work in a stable environment what to mean or if you don't well yeah they can because you've got people who have been in the TV industry for 20 years wait unstable or stable I'm confused stable environment so working in an unstable environment so like a toxic environment so like a negative environment so imagine working in a negative work environment yeah some people can do that and they've done it for 20 years oh yeah okay fair enough do you know what I mean And what is it? Working there will watch? If I work in a negative environment like that, it's going to severely impact my mental health

and what happened. Oh, that is... Yeah, and what happened? And I'm only just getting out of the burn out and I'm still doing therapy because of things that happened three years ago. That's insane, isn't it? That's so accurate.

It is. But like, and literally, just think as well, like this is something that I've been using for, yeah, I've probably had this app for about four years. Yeah. I've literally had it for so long. Oh my God, I need to get, I need to get my birth.

search out and figure out what time I'm born Helen get sort out come on now come on now FaceTime you after this get out yeah um yeah like fate and all that like I constantly convince myself oh yeah it's just fate like oh they're here but then I know myself I've done things thinking that people think it's fate but I purposely done it like showing up right come on tell us no guys do you want some juicy juicy goss oh yeah okay so I knew this guy who I liked would think it was fate if I turned up in a different country where he was. Yes, I am insane.

Hello, my name is Nicole. I fully recognize that. Basically, he was in Ibita. I was in Marbea at a wedding, and I was flying, I was on my way to the airport to fly back to London. And then I was like, actually, my best friend was in Ibita. And she was like, look, this guy's here. And I was like, oh, okay.

so I bought a ticket as I was at Marbeah Airport to go to Ibiza. She was like he'll be here at this club today because we spoke about it last night. He was on the night out and I was like okay so I showed up at the club. Did you bump in room? Honey, I got the table next to him. Oh, yeah.

I got the table next to it. I booked to the table next to him. So anyway, my friend was like, he's right there. So anyway, I'm dancing away. I turn around. And he was like, Nicole, what are you doing here? And I was like, beep, what are you doing here? And he was like, oh my God, it's meant to be.

Like, this is fate. Like, we're seeing each other in this environment, in this country. And I was like, it is meant to be. It is fate. Marry me now. And then, yeah, so he was convinced it was fate. And that only happened. That only lasted about 48 hours because then he realized,

I actually was clinically insane and I did do that. And I did fly. How did he found out? I'm sure I probably blabbed it to him when I was drunk I can't remember Oh you've got on a pond Not somewhere else

Oh yeah Well as he's seen it Oh I definitely have said the story before So he's definitely seen it And he knows That's about him So he thought he was like You were crazy

But I tried to pretend it was fate Yeah And it worked for 48 hours And you know It was all lovy-dovey 40 hours And then he's just my tits up But yeah Have you ever done something like that?

I don't know I can't say I have I don't know I'm not good at on the spot things you know I know I know but have you ever convinced something as like fate um convinced anything that's like fate I'm trying to think like I feel like in some situations like you are like oh yeah like you know we've got the same interest and blah blah I don't know if it's necessarily would be you convincing that it's faith I mean I definitely convinced myself more to get with someone

well I shouldn't like you know what I mean so like I've really like I've like put a magnifying glass on that good traits and I've like took the magnifying glass off the bad traits and I've been like yeah but we're in the same industry and we talk about the same things and this and I don't mind that and I'm like really easy going and then all of a sudden I realise oh no like I'm completely adapting and changing my personality

to fit this person's life yeah but who am I anymore maybe maybe like I don't know what I did with the DJ. I know, literally, maybe we are desperate. Oh, no. Yeah, maybe we are desperate. Like, because of the shit.

You know what I mean? Like, shit. Because why do we keep, why do we keep doing this from that? Well, I mean, I don't, not anymore, but I have in the past. Not anymore. Between, well, I still do the close friends stories.

Oh, right. But no, whatever they're interested in on, the close friends to get a reaction. Yeah. So maybe I do still do it. I've totally learnt my lesson with this stuff now, I think. I think I've learned that many lessons. I'm just like,

No, I'm decentering. Yeah, maybe it's because, like, you've hit 30. I've got another six months. Maybe when I hit 30. Second of July at 12 a.m. 100%. Change. Yeah, completely change.

I think that that could be very true. Yeah, because I have felt an energetic, Gail, universe, I have felt an energetic shift when it comes to, like, turning 30. Like, my whole mindset's just shifted. Yeah. Like, I just feel so much more unapologetic and, like, and genuinely. myself first even if means that I come out the bad guy yeah don't give a fuck if you put other people

out I think that is such a thing right now with how we're feeling is like boundaries have to be set if we're putting other people out because we need to make ourselves feel better yeah that's okay I mean obviously if someone's going through a really tough time your friend and like you want to stay in watching TV and not go like that's so fucked that's different yeah like if it's like an event or something small and like do you know what i mean it just depends on the circumstances but yeah definitely put yourself first 100 i do think i'm definitely getting i'm i'm definitely getting a lot more better yeah i'm definitely getting a lot more better i put myself first to me yeah i think over the past few years like i have put myself first in situations because i i i just i've just needed to do that

and i've lost a lot of friends because of it as well but you know what it is good wins thank god i'm still here thank i know i know i know no no but i'm But, like, I think, like, I do, I think what it is. I think it comes to a situation where, like, you can only be there so much for someone without it then depleting you and your energy. And, like, I think, especially when it's, like, just, like, a repeating cycle over and over and over.

And it's just so draining, and you don't realize how taxing it is on your energy. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Yeah, that is the end. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, 100%. So I think being 30, putting myself first,

being unapologetic with it and that's just kind of where I'm where I'm at right now yeah and like with the universe and stuff like what is the pettiest revenge the universe has brought us I wonder in terms of like giving revenge to someone who wronged us like where we haven't had to do anything I personally don't believe in revenge I don't think I've ever really gotten revenge on anyone listen I think I've never I don't think I've ever got revenge not properly where Where if I have, if I are, the things that I know about certain situations, right? Oh yeah. And if I was the type of person.

Sorry, that's it's so sexual. I'm just, it's so sexual. I'm absolutely dead. Like an orgasm noise. Sorry. Yeah, that's so funny. No, I think, as you know. Yeah, so the things that are, like,

the knowledge that I have on certain situations. Oh, my God. Like, like, if I was to my court, an evil, like, just a fucking bitch, like, I recognize where I need to, like, go right, no, like, you can't do that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. If I didn't have that fill, I say this was six, seven years ago, eight years ago,

before society got the hands on us and like like literally before before I literally got tumbled dry around by the fucking the fucking industry right I relate yes

like I like in my head I probably wouldn't think so much of like how it how my actions affected other people and I honey oh honey the tea the tea the tea the tea the tea but I do feel like now

wait what was the question sorry I'm losing if the universe has oh revenge revenge revenge yeah so the universe I just genuinely believe that like I don't need to do the revenge yeah yeah I've never done the revenge

the way that I've been the way that I could like the way that I could literally if I wanted to not that I ever would so like I've got a really strong sense of injustice and I think it's like an ADHD thing I get a really strong sense of like injustice and so sometimes I just feel like

I wish I just was really unapologetic and be like and tell people what I thought but at the same time I think I have that like part of the empathy in my brain where I'm just like I don't, it would make me feel bad if I was, do you know what I mean? That's what I think about the most but like I know categorically

that the people that have done me wrong they've got their lives, their lives, the situations, whatever's going on, it's built on a foundation of lies and that to me, our person think, is the universe showing me that you don't need to do any revenge. Oh yeah, it's already done. It's already done. It's like your whole life is built on a foundation of lies.

No, exactly. That is enough. That's enough. I don't need to do anything. No. And I feel like if I've never taken like proper revenge. and I feel like I would honestly

it would eat me up like I would feel so I would feel so shit but we've never took revenge before so how would we know? Because I like as you said empathy I've got so much I'm an empath

like so I feel other people's feelings it's so draining and that honestly is why I stopped going out in a lot of social settings as well because I get so drained I feel like we're like with us like we're really like a sponge with what environment

we're taking all in so for instance like for example like my mom would say to me Bethan, we're there, pardon me. My man would say to me, Bethan, you need to separate work and your social life. So, like, for instance, Geordy Shore, my man would be like, you need to say this as work,

you need to separate it from your social life. I couldn't. I thought the most people were my friends. And you're going out, drinking for work. Exactly. You can't separate that. I couldn't separate it. So in my mind, I couldn't separate it.

So the whole Jory Shaw thing, like everything that kind of happened and everything that I experienced during that, that was so painful to the point where I couldn't separate it and most most people who do TV can separate it and that's the element that they probably possess to do TV. I couldn't do it because I was just like how can your friends do that? No exactly. I think yeah like going back to revenge as a whole I think there's no need to take revenge on anyone I think the universe in my opinion will do its job. I've seen it happen countless times and I'm like there you go. Revenge is a

dish best served cold yeah is not the saying i think so cold not piping hot cold yeah um yeah so just let the universe take its toll on whatever those people who've done you wrong you don't have to do anything sit back relax and enjoy the right yeah bye and that's it