Wild2Mild Podcast - Ep.1 From Wild Nights to Wellness Days 🍸🧘‍♀️

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

Send us a textIn the first episode of Wild 2 Mild, Bethan Kershaw and Nicole O’Brien kick things off with a catch-up on how they met and why the party lifestyle just doesn’t hit the same anymore.They chat about hangovers in your 30's, wellness, self-care, and the journey from chasing chaos to choosing peace. It’s real, it’s unfiltered, and it’s basically a voice note between mates.Subscribe for weekly episodes full of girl talk, healing, and a bit of mayhem.

Welcome to the Wilder Mile podcast with me, Beth and Coteau. And me, Nicole O'Brien. We are going to be talking about relationships, dating, 20s, 30s, age, sex, spirituality, wild nights, party lifestyle. We've literally got everything on this podcast. We've got your covered for your life experiences, right? We're your agony aunts here now, okay? Literally. We've been through the ringer.

through it and we're out the other end kind of kind of kind of we're still kind of dipping in and out yeah dipping in and out

but you'll see throughout this season of the podcast all of our experiences and how we've dealt with them and how we have not dealt with them well literally we're going to talk about

all the messy bits all the fun bits all the happy bits like this is what this podcast is about this is raw this is going to be just yeah it's unfiltered

it's unedited so everything you see what you see is what you get really with us we used to be crazy party girls i first met bethyn when she was so drunk and i was so drunk and i remember her tumbling and walloping her head against a wardrobe in july yeah literally literally i had concussion i was concoct i'm sure that was the first time that i actually met you i was concussed yeah you were concord yeah it was actually everyone was terrified i was obviously so spaced out everyone was run around like headless chickens if you could just imagine like bluey eyesight like

birds fucking flying around me head and they were all like run around like headless chickens and like that's like a baby trying to mind a baby like I was so drunk as well yeah oh my god and then I was like we're gonna have to call 999 like and get an ambulance and then you just rose up and you're like I'm grand I was thinking oh my god she's got a cut the size of god only knows what on her head. I know, I know. But it was so weird as it was, it was just like, I rose up like an angel, I was just like. Like an angel? It's fine. I'm here.

I know. I was definitely still concoast, wasn't that? Oh, you were. But I was thinking, this girl's a bit of me. We're gonna get along. Just fine. That was so fun. That was honestly, that was when we were literally like potty, potty girls were completely different now. It makes me actually have goosebumps thinking about like I went to Dubai for six weeks and I went out every day and every night apart from one night

I did not go out for six weeks of drinking that that's disgusting you did go out every night for six weeks oh I thought you went meant like you went out for one night in six weeks I was like is anybody else listening this doesn't sound right no I was I was out every night for six weeks I took one night off that's so wild isn't it do you know what when I like look back at the way that I used to drink like that is like borderline have have very much issues yeah 100% and it was so normalised I mean listen now I was literally on one of the UK's biggest TV shows yeah knowing for bad behaviour literally known for it like yeah and I look back and I just think like I don't understand how that even got accepted I know it's mad I think like the

culture like back then was so different now. I think cause of lockdown and everything that has made everyone like be so much more health conscious. I think because we've like gotten older anyway like yeah, I'm not going to lie. I'll go out like once every two weeks, once every week depends like once every week in summer. Yeah. Once every like two to three weeks in the winter. It just depends. Like I still enjoy going out but I'm not binge going out like four times a week which was honestly what I was doing years ago. Yeah. Four times a week. I'd literally be home. over for half my week and the hangover is now guys

I can't deal with it I'm three days in bed yeah literally same no like you know what I don't understand I mean I think what it is is obviously like you live at when you're a bit younger it's a lot healthier it can withstand a lot more now it can't know now it's battered

now it's like a fucking shriveled up prune now it's literally like a little shriveled up a dual date genuine And I'm just like, yeah, no girl, no girl. No girl. No girl, put down that fifth glass of wine girl. Put down that glass of wine girl.

With the hangovers, it's just too bad. But I find it so funny how we met each other when we were like coming out, pretty, pretty, pretty. Yeah, but then we're like wellness, wellness. Yeah, it almost went like this, it went like this. So this was Nicole, this was me, right? This was me and we came in together like this. Then we came and then we were going, right, okay.

And then we go through the same trial. Oh yes but different different different but yes yes and then and then we evolve into a flower yeah flower flower flower now we're a flower lotus flowers a little bit trauma and we'll talk about it all in this podcast yeah you'll hear all about the trauma every single every single we hear very open books yeah yeah but it is it is mad I do definitely think that like a lot of the things that like we've obviously went through in our lifetime and obviously like a friend has said this to me and a lot of things like you internalize other people's behaviors right so like so like so for instance like you know obviously like um sometimes when you talk about like things that people

do um and like oh the phone's gone off ee oh no so's that was me sorry um so like you know when you think about like if people do things like probably not intent like they're not probably try i mean they might be trying to really hurt you but like sometimes you're into i do this a lot. I'm really, really bad for this. I internalise, like, other people's behaviours. And, like, Michael said that to me once. Like, he said that I'm internalising it. Michael is, is, my friend, he's basically helping with the podcast. He's got the own company, but obviously we'll put all of that in the tags and we'll show you. Um, yeah. But yeah, so, like, obviously, you know, like, um, wait, I've lost my train of thought. Internalising behaviour.

Yeah, so internalising when people do things wrong to you and then you can like internalise it. and then obviously I feel like we kind of struggle with that a little bit yeah do you know I mean probably more so than you oh yeah but I definitely struggle with that too 100% because it's like you think I don't know like you make like their decisions like you a you problem oh yeah I always do you make it as well what's wrong with me and why have I been treated like this shit that is really resonated with me oh no oh no I always do that but I do think so leading on this is why i think we're in this like wellness space yeah of what being very conscious of like you know if we're going out and partying in the kind of party people and being around a lot of

party people or like um you know if we're kind of spending a lot of time with people who drain our energy and not like you know who literally fucking siphon our energy yeah it's like the what are they called the energy vampires no the people in him oh you don't watch harry potter oh no Oh, the, um, Dementors. Dementors. Dementos. I don't use that as well and I don't really watch Harry Potter. I'm a Marvel fan. I'm a Marvel. Yeah, you love Marvel. I love Harry Potter. Which is so funny because usually like, actually you do find like people just love Marvel. Oh, just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we've got this dynamic going, which I love. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think it's important to protect your peace, protect your energy. And I feel like that's where we're at now. We're 100%. I think

we're good at like finding balance slightly not great no balance with going out and being and staying in sorry with the wellness sorry sorry sorry yeah yeah I think like yeah like I'm not as I said we're not going out every night of the week anymore like I go out once or twice or once a week or once every two weeks for me I don't know about you yeah no not at all not on the slightest oh nah I barely go out now barely actually I do go out quite a lot when I go down to London because obviously like we go out a lot Up here, not really not. Like, I literally don't have many friends up here who party like that anymore.

Yeah, it's not the known thing or not the done thing anymore, I feel like. It's like certain groups of people, I think, isn't it? It's kind of like you either like continue or you don't. I feel like a lot of people like the party people in town who was always out in town when we're younger. Like a lot of them have like settled down, had babies and that now so they're not really out the way they used to be out.

Or they're like in relationships or they're like, they've moved away and they're not living in the UK anymore or whatever it is, I do think that like from me being younger in the young era of like partying and stuff. Like everyone's just grew up. I mean, some people haven't. Some people still doing it.

But like, yeah, I feel like everyone's kind of in a different era now. I want to know what your craziest thing that you've done when you were like a party girl is. Are you allowed to even say on the podcast? Probably not. Probably not. yeah just you know what I'm not very good at like on the spot like oh yeah you're not sorry

I was I was speaking at someone and they said well what did they say they said uh it was basically it was another way of saying like thinking on the spot everybody basically like oh yeah you're not you're not very good at that are you and I was like a bit rude but no I'm not to be fair no I'm not though I'm not um but yeah so um crazy I mean I think my craziest thing was genuinely going into TV. Genuinely, I do think that that was the craziest decision that I've ever made.

So many amazing moments don't get us wrong, so many amazing opportunities. Obviously, I've got my platform with my community of people on my platform which I'm so, so grateful for. But then also a lot of bad things as well. Like it's kind of you've got to take the good and the bad, the happy and the sad.

That's so true. I think, yeah, we're so grateful the two of us for having a good community of people surrounding us and I mean my following is literally 80% women which I love wow that is I'm so let me check my exam I'm desperate and all

which I love and I think everyone who follows me is just very supportive and very nice and I feel very blessed and I'm very thankful for too hot to handle for giving me that opportunity season one which I didn't think that was going to be big but also but also like

I think that also you have to keep a platform built so you can get exposure but like people will not follow you unless you've got things on your profile so as much as like the TV gives you the opportunity it gives you a little bit of the limelight you have to keep that person engaged yeah they're not just like following you for no reason yes you've had the platform you've had the limelight but it's that's not that you're their follow the followers are there because of you so like don't think in your head all that that like platform that TV is how you got it you got it from

being yourself and people love that about you and they watched your profile and they looked at your content and they stayed there because of you so you built that you built that yeah they obviously gave you the the little boost and they gave eyes they put eyes on you but they followed because of you oh my god that's so cute you remember making the cry that's so nice that is so cute yeah i just want to remind you of that that's very nice thank you yeah i think We're both very grateful for having those opportunities. Oh, this is great. 74.9% women.

Brilliant. Yes. Get in. I love the girls. I love the girl and girls. But then I also love the girls. Yeah, we love the girls. And I do love the guys.

I do. I am a little love a girl. Yeah. Some of them are scary. But most of them, well, not most of them. Some of them. Some of them.

Yeah. I just, what I need, I think I've decided. and what I need to work on is my relationship with men. Yeah. Yes. Because I dip in between don't eye in and out. But listen, it's a love-hate relationship with you. It's a love-hate relationship.

It's really weird because I want to love men. But I think I've just been so hurt before. Me too. Yeah. So it's hard. It's hard. It's hard to love someone who has hurt you so much. Well.

Or a species. A species, yeah. I think it's more, I think it's more just about like you hear stories and like your friends tell your stories it's building up rapport on things do you know what I mean but listen that's for another time it's for another episode we're not going to get into that now we need to what kind of right so basically I want to talk about your like favorite self-care hack like what is something that you cannot live without that you would literally recommend to anyone and it could be from like um palm reading it could

be from like bubble baths with like um spa music and candles it can be yoga in the forest what is it i've got a few so i'll always listen to Alexa stop Alexa's playing spa music sorry this is how you know that I'm a wellness girlie through and through no I'm crying I was like what I was an aeroplane so listen Don't laugh. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. Don't laugh at it. So obviously I'm trying to regulate my nervous system because I'm burnt out at the moment, right? And I've got nervous system dysregulation every day. So I'll set my alarm to play spa music every day at six o'clock. That's so cute. Every day at six o'clock, Alexa turns it on for us. Oh my God. Don't say her name. Opsie. that's so funny um i think i think um with me i love palates okay i live laugh love palates like it makes me feel so good it makes me feel like i've accomplished something i don't like

hit training like i don't like heavy heavy run and run weights weights not not for me i'm in my cutesy palates girl era love that um i love listening to acoustic covers when I have a shower. What? Do you know I've got a friend that loves that as well? I don't know about the shower but he loves acoustic covers.

I love acoustic covers. Shout out James, that one's for you. It's how I relax. Yeah. I just lather my face and I go upstairs I put my hair back, lather my face in a Lenej sleep mask.

Alexa, stop! She's tempting you? She is, she's like this girl needs to be regulated. That is hilarious. Oh my God, I love that. I love that you. I mean, these might not be able to pick it up on the mics, to be fair, but Alexa,

not, no, no, no, no, let's call it Anna. Anna, basically turned, turned on the small music again, because she's like, get regulated now, bitch. Oh, please, that is so funny. What's your rituals? Oh, I've got so many tools. I've got so many tools. I've got Tibetan singing bowls.

I've got an acupuncture mat. I've got, um, yeah, breathwork. I love breath weight. There's an app called Open. That's really good. It's really good for a thing. There's loads of different app that you can use, but Open's quite a good one.

And it is like breathworks and stuff like that. Sorry to interrupt. I'm actually just screaming how yours are so deep. And mine's like, I love acoustic covers and a Lenege face mask. I know, but howie, I'm just, I'm like, I love my sound healing. I love my semantic movement. I'm like, yeah, Lenege face mask. And I'm pretty covered.

No, but listen, still though, I think, like for me, I think it really depends. I just think I'm. really trying to find balance and I think like at the minute I recognize like how many things have it's so weird right does anybody else feel like this like do you feel like the older that you get the more like stuff you can remember like I genuinely think that the older that I'm getting I'm getting all these like memories coming flooding back and I do think it's like affecting us away from when you were younger yeah yeah oh I can I can remember when I was born that's going to

sounds so weird. I can remember the day after I was born I was putting an incubator because I had trouble breathing because I had pneumonia and I remember all these doctors probing me with stuff and I said to my mom like a few years ago and I was like describing the room I was describing what happened and mom was like yeah that happened oh my god that is so scary we were I had a house when I was one I moved out we moved out when I was one year years old so I was there for the first year in my life and we went back about eight years ago because my parents still owned the house and rented out and I said dad before we go in I just want to describe how I remember

the rooms being like upstairs and it's not like I there was no photos that I had looked at or whatever and I was describing like all these different things because I remember distinctly when my parents had left to go for dinner one night there was a babysitter who I had like a huge dog yeah I was only six months old

and I was describing the room I was describing everything we go in and my dad was like that's exactly it was exactly how I remember it that is actually wild and I moved out when I was one that's so wild it's mad how your brain can remember all these things yeah yeah see i had i basically like kind of similar to that like i remember this house i cannot remember what it was but then when i've

explained it to me ma'am she's like nah like that never happened and i'm like yeah but it must have happened but then maybe it wasn't maybe it's just a dream and i just sometimes you've really remembered the dream yeah sometimes your brain can do that it can make up like um memories yeah which is mad i know like i've actually got a made-up memory. That's mad, isn't it? But, like, life is so complex and, like, your brain's so cool. I'm so interested in stuff like this.

Like, Dr. Eamon. Yeah. You know, the, the spiritual psychologist, like, these people that, people that look into, like, I'm just obsessed with it. It's a border line obsession. Yeah. It is. It's so interesting, though.

It is. It's interesting to see how all that works. But, like, it's mad. Like, I don't remember what I have for breakfast today, but I remember when I was two days old explain that like make that make sense make it make sense oh my god do you want to know something right do you know that so um you know like stress and like trauma and all of this like you're basically stress and like the way that you speak to yourself can actually make you like not as smart so like when you're constantly like putting yourself down and really really negative

negative mindset, you're shrinking something that's like, I think it's your hypercampus and it's the brain that stores memories and that like learns. So, yeah, so when you're in like negative situations or if you've experienced like traumas and stuff, like

your brain shuts down certain things to protect itself and one of them things is like your hypochampus, it shrinks. Right, so these pricks who've caused me trauma have also made me more dumb. Are you fucking joking me. No, it's not funny. That's literally putting a knife and toasting it. They've now made me

more done. Oh no. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. I love that. Love that. Just more resentment to have here. Love the resentment. No, right. Come on. Come on. Therapy. We need therapy. Yeah. Anyway, literally, I feel like this, this is going to sound like all therapist and it's not. And we'll need to remember that this is not therapy. I know, but I will forget. I will forget. I'm just going to let you know now. I will forget. We will forget and we'll probably act like we're in a therapy session and we're very open books just to let you know. So you're going to hear all of every single trauma situation shape, some dating advice, some dating issues, some blah-da. Yeah, yeah. You'll hear it all. Oh God, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, he will. I feel like we have a nice mix of

serious chats, insightful chats, and just. having a fucking laugh yeah it's a nice little mix it is a nice little mix like I love self self help podcast but I also love listening to two girls chatting shit having the crack yeah and I think like funny funny funny funny shit like yeah yeah yeah yeah a nice little balance hopefully with the topics we have in mind yeah I mean hopefully we'll say so sometimes I can spiral off me you know I'm gonna literally just put it out I will just put it out there listen all my friends know that I spiral out of control sometimes I'm very very opinionated But then guess what?

No, because then I regret it. No, that's why we have you a mic here now. No, yeah, no, I know. But sometimes I do. I'm opinionated, then I regret because I'm like, no, like my life path number says that I need to move with, like compassion and humanitarian or whatever the fuck. Yeah, but I think it's good sometimes to be opinionated in certain things.

It's what you believe in. Yeah. You know, you've got strong beliefs. Yeah, maybe. That's good. Yeah, but maybe it's trauma response. Maybe it's not belief. Like this is what I struggle to delegate.

understand. Yeah, I don't know. What's the difference between like an actual, like say for instance like attachment styles. What's the difference between like attachment style trauma response? Like what, or is it the same thing? Oh, I think it's the same thing. I think it's the same thing. Oh yes it is. Because I have anxious attachment style. Yeah. Yeah. Um, um, no, I feel like, I feel like it's a mix. I feel like we're mixed sometimes. Do you think? I think when I like someone though, I am quite anxious. But I pretend that I'm not. And then I, I'll be at home, like, in a ball rolling on the floor. Yeah, but do you see, pretend I don't.

I'll let them no straight away. Oh, yeah, you do. And I'm like, oh my God, let me, me, me, right? And they're like, whoa. Yeah. And I'm like, limeret. Limeret. At least you're open and honest about it.

I pretend that I'm like, don't give a fuck. And then I'm at home, like, literally in my wardrobe. I would rather. Like, have you seen that fucks at the end of the bed? squiggly little fox that is me that is me waiting for the text back this scraggly little fox on the end of the bed yeah I'm the scraggly little fox meme on the end of the bed waiting for a text back even though it's only been about two minutes wanting to hate my life done dusted by and then I get a text back and then I'm

just like a prancing little fairy in the end right hang on a minute right we need to figure out how you start decentering men Because what the fuck? I know. You're telling me you're prancing about the garden because you've got to text back. Yeah, because I'm back in control. So I decide then

when I can text him back and I can live in happiness until that I then text back and then I again, scraggly fox at the end of the bed, we can text back. That is a vicious cycle of ups and downs and my course saw levels

are through the fucking roof. Constantly. Oh my God. Nah, that is hilarious. That is so funny. I kind of feel like I think I was a lot more codependent and anxious when I was younger. Oh, when you were younger. Yeah, when I was younger, I was a lot more codependent and anxious.

And it's like I didn't know how to like verbalize that. So like I spent too much time like trying to get people who weren't treating us right, trying to get them to treat us right. I'm a bit more now I'm a bit more right. See you. if you don't know how to like conflict resolutionize or whatever the word is if you don't know how to resolute if you don't know how to resolve conflict at your big old age now like yeah no like you just can't you cannot pour your energy into that shit you really really

can't I have learned my lesson I have and I'm the type of person and even my life number says this I'm life number nine um my life number say is like I have to expect the hurt. I have to experience it. I can't say it from other people. I have to experience it myself to feel it, to feel the emotion, to grow from it. So like, say like, like cheating, lying, deception, betrayal, all these things. I can watch it happen to other people and watch it go down, but I'll never fully understand it until it really happens to me. I think. That's what I think. Oh yeah. I kind of feel that as well. I need to look off a bit. I think we're like going into overdrive here

our brains are like probably I need to look up about my life number six I need to understand what actually means yeah I'm like really delicate I know I'm scared of chat GPT

sometimes I love oh my God it's the best thing ever it is amazing like it can do like it's like a therapy session constantly my chat GPT thinks I'm absolutely fucked like I literally be like sending in screenshots

of like men's text being like what does he mean oh my god and they're like he's not interested i'm like okay i well go die oh my god no i'm joking i'm joking no i'm joking i'm joking but some no sometimes actually it did it did actually come up like that before and they were like he's actually not giving much back so he may not be that interested and i was like but why why is you not interested but that's the thing isn't it the question's not about why the

questions about is he blind what what i mean he's not like obviously this man's never had anything good he's life. He's talking about he's not interested. This man is clearly not knowing what a good thing is. A good thing could come smack him in the face and he wouldn't see it. I'm screaming. Yeah. Oh, thank you for saying that. You know what though? More fool

him. More fool him. And this is the thing as well. Like I do genuinely like I genuinely don't understand when like you know obviously when women and like your friends come and say oh this thingy this problem is and I'm like how? I know. How? Like have we just got a different relationship? Like can I say something different?

Like what? Because I just think that you are literally one of the most amazing people to ever grace this planet. Like genuinely though. I think you're the most amazing person that's. I think you're like so kind. So kind and compassionate.

Funny. Like I actually think, sorry not to blow smoke up our arses. But we're brilliant. I'm joking. Yeah. Like honestly, no, but listen. I'm genuine.

when you do find it like really, really baffling, because I'm just like, how are people not saying what I can say? Like, it's actually offensive to my eyeballs when people try and treat you like shit. Like, it's so offensive because I just think I'm going to punch him in the throat. I'm not.

I do not condone violence at all. I'm so sorry. I've literally had one fight in my whole entire life. Like, I'm not a fighter at all. Don't get us wrong. I'll argue, I'll argue him to I'm blue in the face. I have got a hot temper. I have got, you're passionate, but I'm, rephrase that, I am, yeah, you're right, I'm passionate,

but yeah, sometimes I just think, what the fuck? I know, I think that sometimes when people fuck you over, I'm like, and my friends, I'm like, are you well? But I think these people that we all day, I'm, I'm attracted to people who don't want to settle down, really. We need to uncover our attachment style. Yeah, immediately. There's a lot going on. But then I also think there's definitely a huge emphasis on, like, you know, constant. being a work in progress like I've noticed over the last few years because obviously I've been on this kind of self-development journey for a long time very very long time I think it really kind of spiraled off when I went through like public break up and I think it really don't get it's wrong like I was always in

the gym and like waiting on myself but not to the extent of what I did then but now it's a bit more mental so I'm really focusing on like I'm really I think it's more about just knowledge I'm struggling to apply it though that's my problem so pardon me um i've got all this knowledge in my brain and i know a lot but it's i really struggle to actually actions like so i know what i need to do but the action isn't following but it's like your your brain and your body you said before separate entities right yeah yeah yeah but it's it's i think it's hard when you just don't know what the fuck is going on with your body like i really really find it difficult especially obviously being like late diagnosed ADHD and i'm

finding it i'm struggling a lot more than what i did like three four years ago yeah three four years ago it wasn't really a thing i didn't don't get it's wrong i had me ups and downs and stuff like that and i had a lot of people say like have you got ADHD like but now it's a lot like now i can really tell because i can feel it in your body i'm like i'm having a full-on ADHD burnout and it feels like i've been like this for years now well i can tell you maximum it lasts us three years so i think you're out of it now saying really yeah well i hope so i had it for three years right um and that is around the maximum that you have it but you just let it take its course right it is i got out of it last january and i had to wait so long but i honestly think you're nearly there right i think you're

at the fucking back end of it now okay and you're well we're starting this podcast so that's a good sign it's a good sign yeah that i'll get moved and yeah things that move and forward with us you yeah exactly so and obviously you know i want to do like my coaching and stuff like that i know i've been saying it for years but at the same time it's just slow burner yeah and it just it's one of them things i have to listen to me body because 100% i've just ignored it for years and years and years i've bypassed everything so now i'm just like no anyways how did we get on this something again not the spiral out of control where the fuck did that go not the tangents not the tangents but you know what girly chats is what it is this is the whole the whole podcast is going

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