Wild2Mild Podcast - Ep.2 Oversharing, Girl Boss Pressure & Neurodivergent Realness

Episode Date: July 6, 2025

Send us a textWelcome to the first ever episode of Wild 2 Mild with Bethan Kershaw and Nicole O’Brien – two ex-reality TV party girls figuring life out in real time (and oversharing while we do it).In this ep, we chat about girl boss burnout, epiphanies?, navigating messy growth, blue ticks in our DMs and Bethan’s doctor suggesting she might be autistic 🫠It’s raw, unfiltered, and a bit all over the place – but that’s us.New episodes every week – subscribe and stick around for more chaos, laughs and real talk.#Wild2Mild #BethanKershaw #NicoleObrien #RealityTVPodcast #Oversharing #GirlBossToGrownUp #AutismChat #PodcastForWomen #MentalHealthTalk #RevelAMT #SpotifyPodcast #YouTubePodcast

Hi. Hello there. Nice to see you again. Nice to see you again. I don't believe I didn't say you for the whole a week. I know. I know. Look at you. How are you? I'm good. I'm excited to delve into another topic today. Yeah, same. What topic do you want to talk about? I feel like I've seen a lot online about people being in their girl boss era and but then I've seen the opposite of people being in like their very authentic crying online. I know we've talked about that before. Yeah. And like showcasing that although they may look like a girl boss they're struggling they're struggling they're struggling I feel like that's me

like if that's me it looks like a certain thing and it just is behind closed doors I'm melting away like yeah I think crumbull crumbulled crumbulled crumbling but I think we're quite open about it yeah definitely I'm sometimes too open me like I really don't have a fill and I feel like that is something that I really have to work on.

Like, I've got anger issues. I don't think you have anger issues. Oh, I think I do. No. I think what it is is I don't like directly, like, I'm not like direct to the point. So then it just bubbles up inside of us. And I'm like got years and years of bubbling shit inside. Yeah, but I don't think you've anger issues though.

Like you would never, I don't think you're an angry person. I think you've got your opinion. Oh, yes. But I don't think you're an angry person. Yeah. maybe not i think being open about stuff like i think two of us are possibly the most open book possible like any press interviews that i've ever done i'm like their dream person to interview because i'll just regurgitate my whole life whatever they want to hear and my peor person's in the corner being like

oh my god shut the fuck on i'm like so yeah felt depressed yeah wanted to die but now feel great then he cheated on me they don't want to die again no literally they're like oh my god this is gold yeah

and isn't that so annoying as well that you just don't I just don't understand like you know when people get like social media training how do you

understand that I don't get it I don't I'm like I'm so dumb like you're not dumb what the hell

no but like I'm like I'm so intelligent you know I know but the thing is I I'm not very good

at like delegating kind of like what things to withhold what things to share i'm not good at that i share everything same everything comes out you know i've seen this tic-tok and i've actually never resonated so hard it was like this girl and she was like when you're in a social setting and there's like an awkward silence and then you just overshare something because you feel so uncomfortable and then after you overshare this really intimate detail and then everyone starts chatting again you're like oh bless you're I'm going to shop here

and my boob, oh no oh no that's not the boob thing oh that's when you know you're hitting your thirties I sneezed way to little bit popped a rib out

literally sneeze there popped a rib popped a rib sneezed way to myself we're going to have to get you the fucking diapers that old people wear literally honest to God oh my god i'm screaming do apologize by that interruption oh that's so funny no but i was saying like

when you want to feel like an awkward silence like i do that and i'll overshare like something and then afterwards i'm like shit and then i'll be like i'll have been drinking or something and i wake up next morning be like oh my god everyone thinks i'm a weirdo yeah i've got like severe anxiety like what the hell i've been rejected by society i've been rejected by society no one will want to be my friend anymore so thinking this freak like she's overshared everything I just don't know when to stop I don't know I think

I think especially when you're tired and like I think when you're tired and like sometimes that can kind of come out as well car on it when you're over overdone yeah

overcooked fucking cooked from life I would be overtired rotissory chicken from life you're a ritissory chicken to death life's cooked us when you'd be

retissory chikened that's when it'll come down yeah literally I'm gonna take that saying now I'm ratissory chickened literally how'sy week I've been rotissory chicken this week what do you mean

life's cooked this I've been cooked my life I'm crying that's such brilliant but I feel like Christ I must always be cooked because I've always been this way and I'm just always tired

and I don't even realize it Oh my God I know I don't know how to stop it though like I actually I've asked people like how do I stop it? I don't know but you need to rain in sometimes. I'm like I don't know how to do that.

I know. Maybe that's why we've been on TV because our brains are like Oh no because now it's causing anxiety though now it's not he he ha ha ha air time. Now it's like He he ha ha ha I'm stressed Stress Stress

Regisory chick A radissory chick It's not Yeah it's not cute See, it's not Jemua. But yeah, I feel like, I just feel like, I don't know, the girl boss vibe for me is not, I don't, I don't want it. And I'll be honest, I don't, I don't want it.

When people say, what do you want to do in life? Nothing. I don't want to do anything. Rotten bed. Lid, not even, I don't want a rotten bread, bread. I don't want a rotten bread. I don't want a rotten bed either because I've done that for literally four consecutive years. Seven consecutive years.

rotten in bread I just feel like I just don't want to do anything I don't want to participate I want to like go and live in my soft girl era and like go grounding every day in the garden and like just let the earth's

like like minerals and all everything and just all of its vibrations vibrate right up on into my spine into me fucking bird ice jaguar and like that's what I'm do and I want to be in my soft girl era where I'm just floating about like the pixie and I've got

no responsibilities that would be nice yeah I would love that like when people say what do you want to do for work I'm like I don't know nothing it's hard I'm so I'm so over it I just I feel like I need to be treated by like I don't know I just need to be treated like a little delicate feather yeah I mean you need a man to treat you like a delicate feather I know I need to me treat as like a delicate feather and give us like a forehead kiss that's actually warranted. Yeah. It is actually permitted. Not just a random forehead kiss

by a stranger when I'm crying. Yeah, and I just feel like I want to treat us like a little, little princess little girl and then kiss off the other head, but then reorganize me inside after. Do you know what I mean? Don't treat us like a little girl. Just kiss us on the forehead. It's weird. Don't be weird.

That's so funny. Just be. I just need, I need gentle, tender love and care. That's what I need. Gentle, tender love and care. Oh my God, I've just had an epiphany. What? That means that I need to be the tender, gentle care and love and care. What?

So basically, because you are what you, no, that's not right. Not you are what you attract. So basically my thought is like, you know, when it is like stop looking for love and things from outside of you, what you're looking for is inside of you. So essentially, inside of me, I am looking for gentle, loving, tender care, right? So I need to be gentle, tender, loving care. Amazing.

Yeah. I'm great that I witness this epiphany. Yes, perfect. So obviously from now on... And we have this on... And we have this on... And we have this on. And we have this.

Yeah, you need to do this. So from now on, I'm tender, gentle, fair and loving care. I don't know what I am. I want to be in my... Like, I feel like I love being, like... I feel I'm hyper independent. which is like the extreme of being independent so I love being in that girl boss era like I love taking control okay I'm a control free oh yeah okay but then that's why I take on so much because

I don't want anyone else I don't I don't know how to delegate obviously and I don't yeah trust people in certain areas and sometimes you have and sometimes messy progress is actually very good look at how messy all little podcast is I know it's so cute I'm so proud of what's messy progress I like that messy progress I like that messy progress oh my god messy progress so messy progress is basically like you're not focused too much on like the details of

things like perfectionism because perfectionism is actually making you fail because you're being a perfectionist it's really resonant it's actually making you fail at the things that you're trying to do because you don't gain insight and knowledge through

being perfect at something you gain insight and knowledge through failing and trying to gain failing and trying to gain fail and trying to gain feel and try and get changing, change, change, changing. And you're never ever going to get that, you're never in your whole entire life going to get that perfect image of what you think in your head because it doesn't exist, it's not real, it's not human.

Yeah, that's so true. But like, even with work things. No. Love! I love that. Even with work things, like, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm like, this is perfect, okay, it can go out, and then if it doesn't do that well compared to what I thought,

I'm like, oh my God, what the first. fuck and then I'll try again but I just don't I think I need to ask for help and like I've had mediums to say that to me yeah and yeah it's just like the art of letting go isn't it like I think you have to let go of a certain like image that you want because I think when you hold onto certain images even with me like holding on to like this certain version of what I think life should be like that's what makes you then you're not in the kind of realm of being grateful for what you've got you're in the realm of like what you don't have yeah so if i'm sitting there like oh don't i don't have this and i don't have that and i don't have it's like you're putting all your

energy into thinking about the things that you don't have when really you should be putting the energy into thinking what you do have because then gratitude creates more abundance but it's just getting out of that survival mindset and obviously in a system that's built for us not to survive yeah i know I don't know how to get out of that survival mindset. I mean, I'm trying. I'm listening to loads of self-help books and podcasts and what I have noticed though with me, right? I've always like try to do like self-love self-development journey and I've always

try to like learn all the different tools. But there's a difference between like actually knowing and doing because I think I know everything that I need to do. Like for instance like burnout, I know exactly what I need to do to get out of burnout. Like don't go on your phone in the morning. do breath work do like grounding techniques get in touch with your body connect with your friends you know work a regular amount go on a walk go at the gym we don't have the energy because you but i don't have the energy because i'm but yeah and also it's like give yourself the mental energy to be

like listen chill i don't know who's timeline you're jumping on yeah i know you don't have you there's no rush this is your life your timeline yeah i agree i think yeah you're dead right i think with this whole girl boss I think it's actually moving from being in a girl boss era all of us like as a society to being more authentic and showcasing like the hard um bits of life and being open online and even though some people who I see do it like sorry I'll be honest I'm like that's not authentic yeah I see some people trying to jump on this whole thing and they'll showcase but I can just tell they're lying and it's not being authentic and they're just trying to go for engagement But then at the same time, though, I think, like, at the end of the day, it's at that person's discretion of, like, what their core values and stuff are.

Because I think people who are, authenticity sees authenticity at the end of the day. So, like, basically when you say people who aren't being authentic, like, you can tell that they're not being authentic because you, you can feel the vibe. You understand the energy. You understand, like, the dynamic of, like, that person, what their life is about, what they're about. But then, like, at the same time, when you say someone who is authentic, yet you can say it because you yourself are authentic. So you can spot it and you can spot when it's real and when it's not real. Yeah.

When it's done for, like, the engagement and the clout and they're, like, jumping on a wagon to, like, boost themselves a bit. You can see that. Yeah, I think so too. You can definitely see that. Yeah. But that's, I'm saying, some people can say it, but then some people can't. It's all just very, like, subjective to you, isn't it?

if you know the person if you know what the person's like because if like you're following someone you don't really know them like of course you don't know well well I don't know there's definitely sometimes people that I say on TikTok where I'm just like

you know when people do those like curated content things like this what they call like them skits and stuff like that oh yeah yeah yeah you know like the jokes and stuff like when the boyfriend and girlfriend are playing pranks on each other but it's like wild pranks and I'm like

surely not and then the reactions are not like you can tell can tell that it's like scripted and stuff like that you can't tell but i don't know maybe that's just not very good actors i don't know i don't know but on delving where that conversation i know yeah i think we just we always go off in tangents we do going back to like social media like dms oh like i know that i'm again going off from another tangent this literally just came into my head okay who is the most famous or well-known person

that's ever slid into your DMs because I actually don't know I don't think we've ever talked about this do you have anyone in mind I do have someone in mind but like I think they're in everyone's to be honest

yeah I don't think it's a big it's not an issue I don't think it's a thing oh my God no tell me no I'm terrified I just am I don't want to be that girl I really don't want to be that girl

I really don't want to be that girl okay fair enough do this and show me oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but he hasn't been in mine really says a lot about me then does that i wonder do you know you can actually get like something on your phone where you can say it at the top as well i'm sure where you can see what so you can basically stay at the top like where you know when the blue like ticks come at the top like when i legitimate business it not put of a oh you can filter your ds i'm sure i'm sure Yeah, you can. Oh, where though?

Or fill that. Oh, yeah, verified. Oh, my God, guys. Oh, my God, it says creators. Oh, my God, there's different things. Who the hell are they? Who's that? Oh, don't know.

Oh. I don't know. Who's that? I don't know. Oh, my God, guys. We're getting some juicy ass here. No, we're not gossiping. No, we can.

We can't. We can. I don't know. I don't know. Wait there. Wait. What? no right I don't like this question

get him to move on I don't like it I'm uncomfortable I don't like it sorry I don't like I feel uncomfortable okay I feel like I'm gonna slip up yeah don't let me slip up I get a fucking cease and assist

I know literally next podcast we're gonna be like right by the way we gotta see the day says so we can't we can't do this yeah no I literally went on a podcast and I told them and the guy message me

and I was on no it was bad this podcast got me drunk oh like I was fucking locked oh yeah bad and I mean got me drunk like I drank the drinks they didn't actually right so at least just getting a bit accountable there I was worried no they didn't get me drunk guys they gave me drinks and I drink them obviously I'm Irish okay yeah of course um and then basically mentioned it and then I was on DMs the day it came out and I was looking at my DMs like and I was just like clicking it to reply to someone and I see him message oh at the top I hadn't spoken to this guy in a year right right message at the top click into it message gone he deleted it oh he was obviously he was obviously messaging me to give it but also sorry like

well you did do it you did do it exactly don't no no again that's me being too open though like yeah I was going to say that's me over sharing like yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not what I'm I'm like, yeah, that was years ago. Yeah, I'm not ever doing that again. I get so worried. I'm like, I need to literally zip it lock and put it in my bucket. Like, I need it.

The thing is, is like, and you're the same. Like, I would never, ever share my friends' information or secrets or anything that they ever share to me. I'm like, that is fucking zipped locked away. But when it comes to myself, every Tom Dick and Harry knows. What is that?

That's definitely a response to something. I don't know. I need you look into that. but like you're the same like you literally wouldn't share anything that I would tell you and whatnot but like

when it comes to yourself it's like different I blame it on my ADHD everything's an ADHD probably but fuck me do I have ADHD and can I blame it on that then

what do I have what don't I have actually is probably the question yeah at this point it's like everyone was slightly all just on the spectrum on the spectrum

literally like you know oh my god tell you that Like, I need to get tested for autism. It's not funny. Yeah, ADHD. My, ADHD doctor said.

Oh. She's like, you need to, like, go and try and get a test for autism. I was like, thanks. Really? Yeah. Because obviously they say people every day, don't they? And that's like, that's what they're specialising.

That's so interesting. I know. I haven't done it yet because obviously I've got ADHD. That'll not get done for five yet. Oh, yeah, probably. Procastinated. Yeah. That's mad.

I know. I'm interested to see how that turns. I know. I think a lot of people who have ADHD have slight autistic traits, is it? Is that the right word? Yeah, it's, I just feel like there's so much information out there now. Like, there's so much knowledge around it now that it's very, very overwhelming. I think I'm just chronically online.

I think I'm chronically burnt out because I'm social media. You're chronically online and I think I need to take your phone away from you. Yeah. For the next two days. Guys, I've got a social media addiction, you know, like it's not even a he or ha-ha anymore. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, when people have addictions, like, they've got things that they can help to do. But I actually don't know how help may be in not chronically online.

Like, even when we're watching a movie. Yeah. And you're on your phone. Fucking kills me. I'm like, oh my God, watch the movie. Like, put your phone away. So rude. I mean, she'll put things on, like, the Grinch or something.

Well, I like the Grinch. You like the Grinch. But, like, she'll put things on that I'm not. I like Marvel. I'm a Marvel fanat. I like I like Not a Marvel for an act

I like I like things like Disney movies I like things and stuff Little Mermaids and stuff We could watch Little Mermaid's time Okay Alright I'll watch then I'll put my phone locked in and talk

I'm really gonna have to seriously knuckle down on this site Because my screen time Beyond a joke What would it be? Beyond Beyond to infinity And beyond

Like genuine but what would it be like an approximate number I'm scared even show you oh Jesus Christ I'm genuinely scared even show you I don't even know what mine is where can I find that in settings yeah screen time in settings screen time I love that oh it's up screen time listen oh my god you go first where do I find it oh yeah blind as a bat need to go to specksavers And then where do I go here? Um, oh, is it screen time?

Wait, I feel like this is a really screen. Screen, yeah, screen time. Oh, that's so bizarre. That is weird that it's not showing up. Isn't it? Okay, well, tell me yours. No, I can't. Eh, that's wild.

You don't have, um, five hours and 25 minutes. That's nothing. Oh. Oh my God, no, that's nothing. that's just social media oh right well I actually don't feel like that's a whole lot though five hours a day on social media five hours a day I mean between the fucking hour and a half when you're going to bed and then throughout the day I mean we do social media as a job but I'm not doing five hours of 25 minutes

of job that's true but what about the whole screen time as a whole as a whole yeah oh oh God oh god here we go 11 hours oh holy sweet mother divine what my doing holy mother Teresa that's Matt

that's a lot 11 hours you're only up 12 hours in the day I know what my doing but just that classes in like every surely can it be every hour oh my god that's insane I know all right I'm getting you a little

I can't check it compare now because I feel ill and this is that that's just this week i can't oh today oh wait we oh it's just it's not loading it's weird right we're gonna have to figure this out because at the end of the day right i need to get insights about screen time set a limit as needed i'll you need to set a limit i need to get you a little um a little box where i only have the password and i put your phone in it yeah i genuinely do believe that's coming down to stay with me now in london the next few weeks so I might order that off Amazon.

Literally. And just lock your phone away. Oh, there. Oh, my God. Okay, I'm only six hours. Fuck my life. Six hours, three minutes. I'm literally, that's a joke.

Yeah, is that overall? Daily average. Yeah, six hours. In the week. In the week. In the week. Oh, my God. I wonder what mine would be.

Oh, my God. Oh, no, I'm terrified. That's insane. There wasn't, oh, fuck me. It is three hours. Seven hours and 20 minutes on Instagram all week. That's disgusting. Six hours on WhatsApp.

Who the fuck am I messaging on WhatsApp to be on for six hours? Like, I only have about five friends. Literally what on earth? I genuinely need to figure out how to sort this out. I genuinely do. It's total dissociation. Christ, that is a lot. To be fair, though, I do a lot of editing on my phone.

Like, a lot of editing. I edit. I edit all my videos. all my transitions and sometimes I'm working for eight hours on a video, you know. Yeah, that's true. Especially if it's like a high, I haven't done one for ages like, so I am definitely using this as an excuse. When was the last one that I don't?

Yeah, but I think, do you know what? Like, because we're, we do social media, we're on our phones. No, you know what? I'm not even going to use that as an excuse anymore. I have social media addiction. I genuinely have. I genuinely have and I don't know what I'm going to do. Stop it.

Now, I've tried so many different ways. I've literally Googled. I've turned me phone. black and white. It doesn't work. I stopped, did it? Yeah, I turned my phone black and white like a newspaper. Oh my God, it was the most painful thing on. That is so boring. So boring. Obviously it was hard as well because I couldn't like edit properly because I like I couldn't see the colour. Not that I edit the colours anyways but it's just what I couldn't, it wasn't, my brain wasn't working. I think I just need to buy you a box off Amazon or you get a little cage or something and we

just lock it away. Genuine. No, but seriously now tonight after we finish filming like we're putting the phones away right we're putting the phones away oh yeah that's fine okay yeah i wonder does let's know in the dms like make sure that like message us like i want to know if that screen time is like a lot to be fair though i was on the face time for three hours as well to my lad oh to your lad so the lad okay so like maybe maybe i don't know no i'm definitely using it's like excuse okay but see i don't have a lad to face time so yeah yeah that's wild Love my life. FaceTime.

So great. No one wants to FaceTime me. That's fine. Yet. Until August. Yeah, August. August apparently is when I'll meet my match. Well, that's what I'm saying.

Or maybe this Sunday. Yeah. Go out. On the lash. Get hammered. Well, I don't know if you're going to meet you, lad, if you get hammered. Well, maybe you will.

Maybe you will. Who knows what the universe has got in store? I'm just going to go out, enjoy myself. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Yeah, may go running back to next Don't want to do that Don't do that

But I do love attention when I'm drunk I'm not gonna lie I just love attention Someone to rub my head Tell me everything's gonna be okay That's what I need I need to be in my soft girl feminine era

Yeah can we just be in our soft girl Femmira I don't know how to do it though Because I don't know how to explain it I want to be a little fairy Prancing about the garden That's all for two I do

I like You know when No but listen Have you ever seen these people On social media Right and they've got these like Mad job of like being a mermaid yeah like lately in Disneyland being a mermaid like

that's a real job that somebody somebody is getting paid to put a PVC fucking skirt or tail on and they're getting paid and I'm being a mermaid are you joking me are you talking me I think that's what I need okay so quit socials go play at Disneyland imagine me if I'm for Disneyland with my background Jordy Show way out Jordy Show way out With kids Yeah

No probably not Probably not You could do it in the Atlantis In Dubai There's marmades Is mermades Yeah In the Atlantis

Salé Salé We moved to Dubai Or like a scuba Has a fucking bad name for itself Who? Dubai Why?

Oh it's just It's not really the place That people should be going anymore Oh Yeah I think it's just down to like The past few years

It's like a certain clientele didn't know yeah I only like this recently but that's what a lot of people have been saying to me when I've been on about like oh yeah like my go to Dubai and they were like no I wouldn't do that I know interesting

I don't know people's opinions though isn't it yeah exactly I don't know I haven't got I've got no opinions anymore are we both numb I think we're a bit numb I think I'm just tired the fact that we've literally released a podcast

and we're like yeah we've got no opinion we've got no opinion We've got no opinions. One minute, it's like high energy, just like, oh, my God. And the next thing it's like, ooh. It's like peaks and troughs. Genuine peaks.

It's like that, and it's fine. There's some weeks where we're like, yeah. We were ovulating. You feel good. I'm not ovulating right this second. No, I'm saying some weeks when you are ovulating and you've got high energy and you feel good. Yeah. And then you're on your period and you feel like shit.

And that's okay. That's just life. But you suffer really badly with it. I do. I've got PMDD. Like, that's mad. Yeah. It's not like, I haven't been the doctor's dad. I've spoken about it.

It's not like, I just know that I've got it because like the way that I'm up and down and it's been something that I've struggled with for beyond time. Like genuinely, my mom's told us to go and get it checked out for over a decade. Over a decade. That's mad. I know. And I just totally, like, no, I don't know why.

You need to get that checked. I know. I definitely will. I definitely will. will yeah I think I need to go get my blood's done I've got so much that I need to go to the doctor for but like it's just the effort isn't that it's like the effort of going to the doctor and trying to get all this done but it takes it takes 20 minutes I know I think it's the thought of doing it that that's actually like oh it's the thought because when you actually do something like that

it's like oh it's so fine actually procrastinating on that like what on earth and then when you actually do it you like you feel this like sense of like relief and you're just like wow I am a bad boss bitch yeah literally because you booked your own doctor's apartment I know we need to get over procrastination that's something that we need to learn I feel like to write this podcast people are going to be like these girls have a lot of issues It's you see you

We've got some see you You know what But I think like It's normal It might not be normal But you know what It is what it is It is what it is

We are who we are End of the day We either love us Or you hate us And then nothing going to bad at it And we don't care either way no we care if you love us we do care we do care that was a joke

that was a joke and take it back I'll take it back and take it back no no we really do care if you hate us please don't hate us we'll be crying in the fucking corner we're covered oh my god everyone hates us now that's up being a peepin please adjust to you

oh no I can't wait until I'm 40 I can't wait until I'm 40 I can rid of it keep we're referring back on the life number yeah no come on now you're not waiting till you're 40 to really peak you're peaking now

I am on peaking now I am on not right this second obviously no about both this year this year this month this week honey today this is our this minute second second second yeah well hopefully next time you's tune in yeah we'll be god only knows how we're going to feel next time you train it I mean, you probably predict more than us predict. We'll probably be coming in next week, like, they're on their game. Yeah, God only knows. We'll see you in the next episode.