Will Cain Country - A 'Will Cain Show' Election Special: Speaker Kevin McCarthy, Dave Portnoy, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton, Ruthless, & Many More

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

On this Election Day, Will hosted a special episode live from a diner in the critical battleground state of North Carolina. Will speaks with voters as well as an insane range of guests to cover every topic under the sun to get you up to speed on everything you need to know headed into the historic election. Featuring: Former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, Co-Hosts of the 'Clay & Buck Show', Clay Travis & Buck Sexton, Co-Host of the 'Ruthless Podcast' John Ashbrook, Host of 'FOX Across America' on FOX News Radio, Jimmy Failla, Barstool Sports Founder, Dave Portnoy, FOX News Digital Political Correspondent Brooke Singman, and FOX News Radio Political Analyst, Josh Kraushaar. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Election Day. Polls are open, and everybody's focus is on key battleground swing states, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and the state where I'm focused today, North Carolina. Two, big endorsement for Donald Trump from Joe Rogan. Three, Dave Portnoy, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton, Brooks Singman, Jimmy Fela, John Ashbrook, a massive show today in a special Election Day episode of The Wilcane Show. It is the Wilcane Show, streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Always on demand by subscribing if you're listening on Terrestrial Radio. market to market across this great United States of America, by heading over to Apple or Spotify and hitting subscribe. There is already a group of thousands joining us on Facebook and YouTube.

Here's what I'd love for you to do. We're going to have big jumbo-packed additions all week long of the Wilcane show. So drop down into the text description of this live stream, and there's a little button that reads subscribe to the Will Kane show. Make sure you do so, hit subscribe, and then you can set a reminder each and every day because we're coming to you, today at a special time from a special location, 10 a.m. to 12 today, two hours, packed full of guests live in North Carolina, the sweet spot, Concord, North Carolina, one of the key seven battleground states. Kamala Harris and Donald Trump making their last pitch to voters. Here is the last pitch from Kamala Harris.

So, America, I am asking for your vote. And here is my pledge to you. As president, I pledge to seek common ground and common-sense solutions to the challenges you face. I am not looking to score political points. I am looking to make progress. And I pledge to listen to those who will be impacted by the decisions I make. There's the last-minute pitch from Kamala Harris. Good morning to everyone watching.

Good morning to the boys in New York. Good morning to the Wilicia. You watching, you are the Wilicia. So jump into the comments section. Tell us what you think. What's going to happen? Will it be that last-minute pitch from Kamala Harris? Or will it be the pitch from Donald Trump?

We'll bring your comments into the shows we make you a member of the Wilicia. Because here now is the last-minute pitch from Donald Trump. A vote for Trump. means your groceries will be cheaper. So many people mention, I go in, so many people mention groceries that beautiful but simple word groceries. Sir, my groceries, you don't think of it that way, but that's what they mention more than anything, my groceries. Your paychecks will be higher, your streets will be safer and cleaner, your communities will be richer and your future will be brighter than ever before.

This will be the golden age of America. Groceries, not many people think about the word, grocery, such a beautiful and simple word. Focusing on the economy, that is his closing argument. Boys in New York, the Wollisha, two days, Dan, young establishment James tinfoil, Pat. He's also said, such a beautiful. beautiful and simple word, tariffs.

He's got some words. He's got some words that are simple to be remembered as his closing argument is about the economy. I see you, Youngestownson James, cheers. Good morning. Diet Coke for good luck. Happy election day. Youngest Thompson James in a suit in tie dressing for the occasion.

Glad to see you got dressed up. I didn't wear a hoodie today, so. Where's your tie, Will? No tie. Barely a coat usually here on the Wilkian. I've been spending my morning in North Carolina. I've been at the sweet spot here in Concord, North Carolina, talking to voters. In fact, I just want to introduce you to one who hung out, wanted to talk a little bit longer. Charlie over here has been sitting around. He said, I would love to talk to you, Will. Good morning, Charlie.

Good. So I'm going to have you lean in the mic. We're going to talk together here. So, first of all, you served in the military? I did for 10 years. We appreciate your service. Thank you, Charlie. And what's important to you today? The strength of our democracy and the soul of our nation, to be honest. Is that right? Yeah, absolutely.

Tell you, what do you mean by that, the soul of our nation? So I think this entire election is about determining who we are as a country, and are we going to be a model for the worlds? Are we going to defend the world? I spent, like I said, 10 years in the military, I'm very concerned about our role in the world and how we're perceived by our allies and the stability that we provide to the worlds. And where does that lead you? Kamala Harris or Donald Trump?

So to be honest, I think Kamala Harris is more of a stabilizing force in the world. I think that Donald Trump is very divisive. He's a threat to NATO. He's stated that many times. He's definitely a threat to Ukraine. I think he has an unnatural relationship with Putin and with other world dictators out there. I think that's very concerning for anyone who served in the military. Right. That's it.

May I offer a counter perspective? Have you already voted today? I have. You have. You voted. Okay. I take it. You voted for Kamala Harris. I did. You know, my rebuttal to that, honestly, Charlie, and we're just two guys sitting around having coffee and a diner this morning. And you're a good guy. I don't doubt that. Thank you so much. I never questioned your character. Right. Thank you. My response to that would go as follows.

In order for the United States to be a leader on the world stage, it can't just be in the group on the world stage. look like every other country. It can't look like Sweden. It can't look like Germany. It can't have the same ideas and the same ideals. Otherwise, we will just be Europe. And throughout our history, we have been a model because of our unique values. From frontiersmen and pioneers to capitalist and entrepreneurs, I just believe the United States has set an example for the rest of the world to follow. And for me, for me, that is more not just embodied, but championed by Donald Trump. So, so again, not questioning your character. character, right? But I'm going to point out a couple things.

Donald Trump's rhetoric is very racist. Its tone is very divisive. No, Charlie. And that, absolutely. To deny that is to deny the obvious. No. That's not, give me, just so we can have a conversation that is productive. His dog was up all the time. Give me one example. You know, I mean, just recently with the Madison Square Garden. I was there.

Great. So you heard it. No, what line, what in particular argument are you referencing? All night long, there were references where you can basically script it, where there's, you know, the whole Puerto Rico is an island of floating trash, right? And, you know, you can say he didn't know anything about it, it wasn't his fault. Or you could say, hey, the whole evening was scripted, and they already had a scripted response, and they, it's basically a dog. Other than a line from, other than a line from a comedian, Tony Hinchcliffe, can you give me a line?

Can you give me something specific to back? up your claim that what Donald Trump said, his rhetoric, was racist? Let me, I'm not going to play that game, but let me say this. The game of specifics. That's fine. The perception out there, okay, whether you want to admit it or not, the perception is that he's a deeply racist, deeply divisive leader, and that does not put America in a good light.

And this is a, this is an election for the soul of our nation. I totally agree. And so do you want our allies to look at us as a racist, divisive nation? Because I guarantee you our enemies want that. And Putin desperately wants us to be divided so that he can gain. I've heard your perspective this morning. I appreciate you. I know you stuck around because you wanted to share it.

And I didn't know your perspective before we came on air. That's true. You didn't. What I would say to you is I'm not concerned with perception. I'm concerned with reality. And until we can live in reality, no. There's objectivity and there is subjectivity. Until you can prove a case with evidence and specifics, you have no real reflection of reality.

You just simply live in a world of shadows. You live in a world of echoes, of rumors. And I would encourage you. I was there at Madison Square Garden. I would encourage you. Go back and listen to any speech of Donald Trump, any specific. And when you can come back, I've got to go because I'll have guests waiting to jump on the Wilcane show. But perception is reality.

It is reality. I disagree. I disagree. Okay. Well, you can live in a dream world. And I'll live in reality. And reality is where perception does matter. And our allies are depending on us, right?

And if we are perceived as divisive and not supportive of the world order and NATO, then the world's going to become a much, much more dangerous place than you think of this. All right. I appreciate it, Charlie. I appreciate you. Yeah, you're welcome. Take care. All right.

Good luck, everybody. Vote. There you go. I disagree with Charlie, obviously. Didn't know what his perspective was going to be as we went on the Will Kane show today, but that's okay. This has always been a home where we can have that disagreement. I would say for sure that I do not believe that perception. is reality, that dream worlds are worlds that live in something other than objective reality.

If you live in echoes and repetitions and you can't give something specific about why you have a feeling that Donald Trump is racist, then you're living in the world that is a dream. Let's bring in now one of the hosts of the ruthless podcast. John Ashbrook is joining us now on the Will Kane Show. They have a special Election Day episode. This has already gone up. You can go over, I'm sure, on Apple or Spotify or anywhere else, and download the ruthless podcast. I don't know, Ashbrook, if you were just listening to that conversation,

but I'd love your contribution. Well, first of all, Will, I just want to thank you for having me on. I mean, I'm a proud member of the Willisha over here, and I really do think people need to like and prescribe the show because everybody needs to see what you're doing. You're having a real conversation with people of all different perspectives, and you've got to tip the cap to Charlie and the service he provided to this country. The guy certainly earned the right to have a perspective and offer it.

Where I would disagree with him is on his concept of perception. How do the leaders around the world, perceive President Trump. Well, they perceive him as a very strong leader. When he was president, we didn't have a gigantic war going on in Ukraine. When he was president, we didn't have war in the Middle East. There were the Abraham Accords. They were moving towards peace in that region. Afghanistan was an absolute disaster that was perpetuated by the Obama administration. And so when I think about how people perceive President Trump, I think of strength. And strength is what we want others to see in America.

So I want to follow up on that. We'll use unexpectedly Charlie's opinion as a golf tee for you and I to see if we can drive this ball forward. On this note of perception, first of all, there's the philosophical debate, right? And that is, I don't believe perception is reality. I understand the point that people can live in worlds that are divorced from objectivity. And they can live in their own subjective bubble. But that doesn't mean the way it's supposed to be.

Like, I believe sanity, John, is the pursuit of an objective reality. understanding the world around you. That's how you find truth. And so the perception that Donald Trump, for example, is a racist, you heard me press him and, like, give me a specific. You know, can you quote a line? He did mention Tony Hinchcliff's joke, which was a joke and wasn't uttered by Donald Trump.

But I often find that that characterization, that accusation, Donald Trump, he's a racist. He uses racist rhetoric. Can never be backed up by specifics, John. And therefore, it's never evidenced. and it's therefore never living in reality it lives in this world you know i've talked about like plato's shadows on a wall i'm sure you're familiar i'm a it's a philosophical allegory from you know thousands of years ago that of people that believe shadows from a campfire are reality versus those

that cut themselves free from the chains and go see the world around them the world around you you have to evidence you have to examine and i don't think there is a good piece of evidence to show or back up the idea. Donald Trump is racist. Yeah, they it's not it's nothing could be further from the truth and they have to make things up about Donald Trump because the truth is he was a very good president for this country. The truth is he actually has an uplifting closing message about fixing the problems in this country, very specific about grocery prices in the border and everything else. But look who he surrounds himself with in these closing days. Watch his closing ads. I'm sure that everybody watching the show saw on Sunday during the NFL games, he had this message

about returning America to where it should be. It's very inspirational. And anybody who gives any sort of an objective look at what President Trump is saying and doing here in the closing days of this election comes away with the idea that this guy wants to be the president for everybody. It's not just a narrow group of bureaucrats or people who agree with him. He wants to be the president for everybody you know the other odd thing john is like okay the madison square garden rally is accused of being a nazi rally right and then people show how many israeli flags were flown at madison square garden worst nazi rally in history right same thing with the accusation of racism right donald trump is going to most likely score one of the largest republican

percentages of the black vote in i don't know half a century maybe in a lifetime for a republican Same thing with Latino. So if he is so racist, wow, worst racist in history. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't have said it better myself, to be honest with you, Will. The guy was a good president, and he is going to be a great president in this second term. I mean, there's just no doubt about it. And if you look at the number of people who are coming out of the woodwork, supporting the guy in numbers, like you say, higher percentages than previous Republicans have seen from, these minority communities. I mean, he's getting support from Latinos. He's getting support

from Arab Americans in Michigan. And that's a real problem for Democrats' hopes tonight. Right. Right. The other part of Charlie's argument to me, John, about perception being reality, is he was very concerned about the way that Donald Trump is viewed by NATO, by the German prime minister, by the rest of the world. And you talked about, of course, we together can analyze the world. We can see the state of the world. War in Ukraine, war in the Middle East, horrific pullout of Afghanistan. But I think there's also this other thing. There's this different view of how America should behave in relation to the rest of the world. I find that many on the left, and Charlie was a supporter of Kamala Harris and opposed to Donald Trump, want us to be a member

of a gang. I don't mean that in like a criminal enterprise. What I mean is like, we're all neighborhood friends and we all are of equal value and equal partners and we need to get along and that's the way and he even used the words world order well i don't that's not how i see america's role and that's not what i aspire to for an american leader what i want is honestly what don't what don't trump has embodied like no we're america and this is the way that it's going to be and this is the way that we're going to do it and if you want to follow our lead then we welcome you into our coalition. But if you don't, you know, you don't have to become our enemy,

but we're not going to pretend that you're our friend, and we're going to foot the bill for your defense. If you hate us and our values and who we are as Americans, then why do we have to continue to pay for your defense? I just think there's, it's more like, I'm trying to think of the right analogy. It's not first among equals. It's first, period.

We are America first. And then I will leave it up to you as a free country to choose without you want to follow America. Yeah. No, I mean, you said it so well, Will. The reality is when he was president in his first term, he forced NATO partners to give more, not just rely entirely on America to do absolutely everything for them. And then they get to, they get to say what goes. America says what goes. And that's the way it should be. If we want to continue to be a great nation, we have to have a strong posture around the world. We just do. And people, other countries, they have to respect that. And President Trump, they do. They respond to strength. They do.

They absolutely do. I mean, just look at what happened after Biden showed so much weakness in the Afghan pullout. I mean, you talk to experts. We have a number of them here on the ruthless variety program. But you talk to experts, and they say that the war in Ukraine and the movement in Ukraine is directly related to the weakness that would. projected out of Afghanistan. And I'm telling you that with Trump back in office, he will put America first. And that's so important.

And you know, one of the things that J.D. Vance always says that I love is that America is not just an idea. It's a nation. There are people who live here. It depends on this government to continue to be strong on the world stage. And I just really, really hope he wins tonight. I feel pretty good, but I think it's essential that this guy gets across the finish line. You know, John, that's an interesting point that you made, because I would say in the past,

I would have been somebody that embraced the idea that America is an idea. And the reason that I would have embraced that is because I think we have unique ideas in America, like in the course of human history, unique ideas enshrined in things like the United States Constitution. But what I've grown to appreciate is we are also a nation based upon those ideas, and we are a people that ascribe to those ideas. That's the point of like immigration, assimilation, controlled immigration, buying into the nation state that embodies those ideas. And I've really come around, and I hear you describe that with J.D. Vance.

I want to do this, John. I want to bring a third person into our conversation. He's the host of the Buck Sexton Show, or the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. He is also the host of the Buck Sexton podcast, which you can see on the emblem behind him right now. He's a host of many shows, and I'm very appreciative of him. showing up buck and i worked together many years ago at the blaze we don't work together often enough today but i always love having him uh when i can get him on the will kane show what's up buck will will will tell me how to do tv so like when i was on bill mar recently and all these leftists

were saying that i should go like jump off a cliff i was like if you didn't like the performance at will kane on twitter blame him did you but do you like it like you've had some experience you know i look at scott jennings on cnn who i really respect what he does he does he does a great job night in, night out, taking on five leftists. It's always five on one. That's what I had when I was at CNN. Buck, you were at CNN. That's what I had at ESPN. And the truth is, I like the dynamics. Did you like it on Bill Maher? Well, look, it gives you an opportunity to flex a intellectual muscle, I guess, that you don't often get these days in conservative media, which is that live combat thing. And look, I know a lot of people do the thing where they show up at

colleges and they have some, you know, emotionally incontinent, like, you know, freshmen and gender studies. He's got, like, a purple strand of hair. That's like, that's not really getting you, where you should go, I think, sometimes with this stuff. Like, you actually want people who can make their argument cogently for the other side, or at least make their argument from the other side. So, yeah, I like that part of Bill Moore. Like, I like that you get sort of put on the brass knuckles a little bit. And it's unfair, right? So that's a thing. It's like the final scene of Gladiator. Like, you've already been stabbed and they're putting the armor on you, but maybe you show commonus what's up. So that's the play. That's the play.

Buck, you're just joining us. John was here. I had a diner here. I'm at the sweet spot in Concord, North Carolina. And I should say for anyone watching, here's what's fascinating. All morning long, I was surrounded by Trump supporters. That's who shows up. If we're going to be honest, that's who shows up at a Fox and Friends diner. And they were very enthusiastic. I did have a man stick around. And boy, he stuck around. He's like, I'm going to take my daughter to school. Can I come back? And I'm like, sure, if you really want to talk. I don't ever. I rarely vet. He was a big supporter of Kamala Harris. So we had a conversation and that set up John and I's conversation. The point of me talking about that dichotomy

this morning, and I'll start with you, John, is how do you feel? Like, even among the people this morning at this diner in Concord, North Carolina, felt a bit nervous. They felt a little 50-50 about the way this is going to go down today in the next couple of days. How do you feel, John? Well, I mean, if you look at the polls, everything is in the margin of error in the key state. So there's plenty of reason to be nervous. But what I've watched closely over the last week is this early vote return. And if you look in the state of Pennsylvania, for example, Democrats' early vote return is 600,000 below where it was in 2020. And a lot of people say, well, it's different now because in 2020, we had COVID.

So people were voting differently. I don't think that it's that different. Maybe it's a little bit different, but if Democrats must be off their targets or Jim Messina wouldn't have said over this past weekend that this early vote is scary, he said that with Jen Saki on MSNBC, a Democrat talking to a Democrat, David Axelrod said that he didn't think that they should count on election day vote for the Democrats. So I have I've got, I feel like that's reason for Republicans to be confident, but it's awfully close. All right, I'm going to let John Asprekow. I want you to go right now, wherever you are, Spotify, Apple, Fox News podcast. I want you to head over and subscribe to the Ruthless podcast. It's awesome.

You guys are awesome. I want to go on the Ruthless podcast. I want to go on this podcast. I've been warning. I'm pitching myself. You tell me when I can come hang out on Ruth. It's a great show you guys do. Sorry, Will, I'm just saying.

Anytime, Buck. Pleasure to be with you, Will. Yeah. Thank you, guys. Glad to play matchmaker. Buck Sexton will soon be on Ruthless, and you should download the Ruthless podcast to ensure that you can get that episode featuring Buck Sexton. But we have Buck today here on the Will Cain Show. All right, do you share John's perspective?

Are you feeling confident, Buck, for Donald Trump? I think he gave the astute professional perspective as to where we are, right? I think that that's, that is totally spot on in terms of it's very close. These are the dynamics at play. I take a more, I don't know if this is just going with my gut or something. thing. I just think Trump's going to win. I think that and I never honestly was in that frame of mind before. I voted I voted for Trump now three times. And and each time previously I voted for him, I was like, I don't know. I mean, it would be great. But I was worried in 2020 just because

of COVID and BLM and all that stuff. I was not not super confident. I mean, I thought it would be close and obviously it was. 2016, it felt like this, you know, wouldn't it be amazing? Wouldn't it be a miracle. And sure enough, it happened. So this time around is the first time where I just feel like they've run, and we can sit here for truly hours and go into all the, all the missteps, the lies, the absurdities of the Biden Kamala campaign. It really is a two-person campaign, right? I just feel like this time around, we've learned a lot of lessons of 2020. And we're like the team, you know, I know you get to hang out with the play sometimes, and he's teaching me the sports commentary a bit. but we're like the team that if we just run the football up the middle, I believe we will win.

Like, you could always fumble, right? You could always mess things up. And if people don't show up today, that's what that would be. But to me, if we just do what we have prepared to do, we win. That's how I see it. You know, there's going to be something. I'm going to have this conversation today. And actually, you bringing up your co-host, Clay Travis, will be kind of interesting on this front.

I also have Dave Portnoy coming up. from barstle sports and with those two guys you see people who have changed over time perhaps in how they see the world i think buck i think you and i overlap i've known you for a long time and if i think about why you would support don't trump or why you would vote republican and somebody was asking me about buck sexton going on 14 years will going on 14 years now old we are old go ahead i'm sorry to interrupt your flow i know i know i know these this this fruit isn't quite as shiny as it used to be over here in North Carolina. You're still a young man, but the thing is we would talk about policies.

You and I would. We would talk about the impact of policies that we feel like are rational, that makes sense. You have a different experience than me because you grew up in the Northeast. You went to Amherst, and you used to tell me about this, a direct face-to-face daily interaction with what you would probably describe as the left, and it had a reactionary force on you. But I also think that book isn't probably, I'm guessing here, at the core. of your being, this is where I think you and I overlap. I had a young guy come up to me and when he's not actually like,

well, what's most important to you? And it's hard for me to just say the economy or gas prices because the truth is it's like what's most important to me is really a philosophical idea about what America's supposed to be. Like, it's not in question. It's part of our character as individuals. It's part of what's written down in our founding documents. And it is deep.

And for me, that is the major driving force. You love history and you love philosophy buck. I'd have to think, like, it doesn't, I mean, yeah, Donald Trump has his own unique ways that he addresses that. But that's always been what's animating for you, I would assume, Buck. Oh, absolutely. You know, I watched some of the, some of the Elon Rogan interview that just happened as well. Occasionally, when my wife, I feel like should be listening to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. I'll hear Joe Rogan's voice somewhere in the house.

And that's always, like, honey, hold on a second, you know. I think we're live on 500 stations. Like, what's going on? That doesn't sound like me or Clay. But I know, I was listening to it with her, actually, after the show. And I think when Elon talked about the destruction of individuality and the destruction of merit, I mean, if you're trying to get down to where I view the real divide on a first principles or foundational principles level with where the Democrat parties today, when the Republican parties today, I think that that's, there's many different ways that I would do it. But I think that's actually a pretty good way for the moment that we find ourselves in right now. I think that Kamala Harris is in many ways the epitome of or the ultimate exemplar of somebody who is a creation as a politician of the machine without any particular gift, skills, or accomplishments, but fits into this broader narrative of how we need to redistribute.

power not based on merit, but power based on the whims of the left and the collective. And just also the eradication of individuality. I feel like that's something that we see from the left everywhere. So that's, you know, I'm borrowing from Elon on this, but I feel like this election in particular, especially with some of the big crossovers or, you know, changes from people like Elon and David Sachs and, you know, these people that have come over,

they realize that there's this. truly oppressive hive mind that has seized the commanding heights of the Democrat Party and they you just there's a deep philosophical difference right this is not the tax rate should be 39% no it should be 30% this is what is your relationship to this nation and what is what does it mean to be an American and what is your relationship to the Constitution I view that as very much on the ballot as the

Democrats like to say I did I do as well and you know it's interesting buck you probably join on a little late but i had a little mini debate with a diner here who said this is about the soul of the nation and accused donald trump of of racist rhetoric my feeling i'm the same as you like that that concept of individualism is core to who i am and i see the other party embracing anti-individualism identity politics and honestly i'm not just trying to like hurl probably what is a cliched bomb but hurl a bomb but i actually think comma is the one that embodies racism like if you do if you do reduce people into identity politics politics in the color of their skin and demand they think or vote a certain way based upon

that shallow characteristic. What could be more racist? Oh, absolutely. And I, you know, you mentioned, I've been a conservative, you know, Clay is a convert to the right. I've been a conservative for as long as I can remember having thoughts about politics. I mean, going back to at least freshman or sophomore or in high school and I, you know, I admired William F. Buckley. You know what I mean? I used to read the Nashville of you guys. I even read the weekly standard for a while. You know, I was one of these kids in high school. school. But one of the things that earliest on, before I thought of it even as a point of political philosophy, you know, I went to a very unique high school where it wasn't diverse because people

said it should be diverse. It was diverse just because that's the situation, right? Like there was a, there was a test to get in. You had to get a certain score on the test, and then you got a full scholarship to go to the school. And so, and the average income in this school, sorry, I'll, I promise I saw this will all tie in in a second. I was like, what is he talking about? The average income in the school when I was there was substantially less than the average American household income. You had a lot of people who were receiving state benefits.

And so maybe it was like 35 grand at the time. I mean, this was back in the 90s. And I just remember that there were first generation Vietnamese and Korean, you know, children of immigrants in my class. And then there were black and Hispanic kids in my class. and it was just understood that the rules were going to be different for college admissions. The rules, I think, were all often different as well for disciplinary action. There were always these different standards set up.

And whenever I would hear an adult try to explain to me why that is fair or why that makes sense, even as a young person, I was just like, well, that's just not true. That's just a lot. Like, we're all humans of equal dignity. We're all equal in the eyes of a law and the eyes of God. Like, we shouldn't be treated. You know, somebody shouldn't look at this and say, you are Korean, but you are black. Therefore, we're going to look at these things differently.

I think you fast forward now 30 years to today. And Kamala Harris, in many ways, is the embodiment of that philosophy, of that we treat people differently based upon historical narrative, skin color, all of these kinds of things. And I just think it's fundamentally wrong. I think it's fundamentally indefensible. Really quickly, Buck, your and my path is very similar. You know that. You know, I worked for a little while with National Review. I'm a big admirer of William F. Buckley.

I never was a big weekly standard guy because I just was never that neocon. But what do you think has happened to so many of our old friends? Like, I don't want to throw names under the bus. I actually like some of these guys. But they went from Never Trump to indistinguishable from the left. Like Bill Crystal, I'm happy to use that name. Bill Crystal is indistinguishable from Kamala Harris. He's a Democrat. I mean, this is, we just need to be clear, right?

If you're supporting Democrats, believe in everything Democrats want to achieve for the country and voting for Democrats, you are, in fact, a Democrat, right? This is, I think it's easy to get a little bit caught off. Philosophically, Buck, to your point of first principles, you don't even represent, and we could, you and I have a lot of names that are very famous. I'm like, I don't even understand anymore how you're so far away from the original first principles. Yeah, I think that, you know, from my perspective, and I think, you know, I mean, I follow your work. even though we're not sitting at a table together every day as we as we work for years, I think you take the approach as well as, you know, I'm never looking to attack or tear down anybody on the right.

I view it as like we're all broadly speaking on the same team with those same shared principles. I would argue that there are people who have truly abandoned those, however, and they are now, I mean, Joe Scarborough, you know, I watch Morning Joe. I don't know if you know, let's talk about it on Radio Will. I watch knowing Joe like almost every day, not the whole thing. obviously, but I'll watch their opening monologue. I'll pick a few things to get a sense to where they are.

He says to a host of Fox and Friends. I'm sorry? He says to a host of Fox and Friends. You're on the weekends. That's different. That's different. That doesn't count. I want only Fox and Friends on the weekends.

But so with Morning Joe, though, because I call it traipsing through the enemy camp, I get to sort of see a lot of what it is that they say. I mean, he's a guy who still, he said recently, to your point, I'm more conservative than anybody who's running as a Republican this year. Well, I mean, that's flatly insane because he actually, he believes in Soros DAs. He believes in the radical redistribution of wealth. He believes in the massive government spending and the welfare state. I mean, I go there all day.

It's completely insane. But with Donald Trump, I think what's happened, you know, I know we, this isn't like a Rogan thing. We've got three hours, so I'll try to get to this real quick. But with Donald Trump, what's happened is that a lot of people who thought they, were in it for the fight, I think I've been exposed as really just being in it for themselves. You know, you and I have also had jobs that weren't in media, and I always think that that's an interesting indicator. Like, I've showed up somewhere where nobody was asking my opinion. I was just doing a job. I've had a few of these jobs. I know you have too. I think that for some

of the people, especially if this was their aspiration very early on, to be that person in the media who is listened to or who is read widely, et cetera, that became more important. than, I mean, it's just good old-fashioned narcissism. It became more important than what's best for the movement. I mean, you've got Democrats openly saying that, you know, 230-pound guys should be able to play volleyball on high school against girls because that's what the party demands. You know what I mean?

Like, like truly insane, truly insane stuff. All right. Well, he kicks off here in about an hour and a half. The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show nationwide, over 500 stations, 12 to 3. He's also got the Buck Sexton show, which you can get Apple, Spotify, everywhere i heart radio uh he is my friend and i really appreciate the time you gave me today on

election day appreciate it bud thank you can i can tell you one thing by the way that uh well i haven't but i'll tell you it real quick um and people don't even know this yet on the radio show wife and i are expecting so i am joining you in the race of fatherhood which is very exciting so people keep asking they're like when's it happening i'm like i promise wife and i are doing everything we can like i don't know what i'm supposed to say to that it ever happened. Best thing in your life, man. Best job you ever had. Best job you ever. Because I think it's very

admirable. You're a true family man with a lovely wife and a beautiful family. So anyway, all right, all right. I'd send you a big hug. I know you've got to do a show. I can't wait to meet your growing family. All right, thank you so much. Buck Sexton. By the way, this is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com. The Fox News YouTube

channel on the Fox News Facebook page. We've got a huge jumbo-packed edition. Coming up a little later, Buck's co-host Clay Travis, Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports. Subscribe on YouTube and you'll get reminders all week long because we're going to be doing big shows. Perhaps joined later this week by Stephen A. Smith, definitely joined by Brett Bear, Bill Himmer, and a whole host of guests here this week. Subscribe on Spotify or Apple.

If you're not listening to Clay and Buck at noon, well, you definitely should be listening to Fox Across America with Jimmy Phelah. Who joins me now on the Wilkins show. Sit up straight, Jimmy. I know my posture, by the way? Broadcasting. Holy heck. I look like a cowboy called...

Clint Feastwood, an overweight cowboy. Feastwood. Yeah, that's me. Good to see you, man. Poster's my hardest thing, man. Yeah. Me too. Happy Election Day.

Yeah, posture's tough, and I sit on a couch with no back for four hours every Saturday and Sunday. And it's, I don't know. You do more deadlifts. But you know what? You know what it is, though? You're more conscious because you want to clobber Heggseth half the time, so it keeps you on edge. You know what I mean? You never know when you're going to have to throw a clothes line.

But I kid. But good to see you, man. Exactly. You might have to throw in some kind of sumo costume and bounce bodies with Pete Hegseth and then transition and talk about a presidential election. Speaking of that, Jimmy, you're a great guy to run this by. Big endorsement today for Donald Trump yesterday. Joe Rogan, he tweeted out his endorsement, which, by the way, I don't know that he ever has. He said he was a Bernie Sanders guy in the past, but to be so full-throated the way he was yesterday was pretty freaking eye-opening. Now, how big of an impact does it have?

I would ask a couple of things. Did Trump already being on with him for three hours? Has Trump already got that young man's vote? But when Rogan comes out and says, I just had Elon Musk. He made the most compelling case for Trump you'll ever hear. And I agree with him every step of the way. For the record, yes, that's an endorsement of Trump.

How big of an impact do you think that is, Jimmy? It's huge, but to be clear, it still doesn't change the fact that Marianne Williamson is going to win this thing. And I think we should just come clear. clean with the American people. I mean, I believe she's at 0.8% in New Hampshire right now.

It's within striking distance. Here's the deal on a serious note. The reason endorsements like Rogans matter more than a traditional celebrity in endorsement is because he's built up a trust with his listener. He talks to them for three hours a day and we've watched him build towards this with other guests that were pro-Trump

and of course Trump and RFK and Elon's multiple appearances. But the fact that over the course of time they've built to this endorsement, and he's kind of led his audience down this path, understand carries more weight in their lives, both intellectually and emotionally, than when, like, Cardi B shows up and reads off a phone, you know what I'm saying? No doubt. Or George Clooney shows up for an hour, raises $35 million, and then tells you two days later, the guy you donated to has dementia.

Okay? There's a different thing. Right. What a funny how once the checks cleared, he was like, oh, yeah, by the way, Biden has dementia. Anyway, thanks for the money. Vote comment. And I think that's the challenge here for the Democrats and for the country as a whole is Will. Tonight we're going to find out who actually does have more influence over the electorate in this day and age. Is it the citizen journalist on social media or is it the legacy media that's wildly partisan and is openly discredited themselves at every turn?

And I think this is the grand finale for them win or lose. We both see it, you know, trending towards the digital space. Boy, I think so, Jimmy. That is the sub-race going on underneath the presidential race. Of course, at the top of the line is Kamala Harris v. Donald Trump. But there is a subtext. There's another battle going on, and that is what is the most influential way to get out your message. Because the legacy media is lockstep, I mean, outside of the existence of Fox News,

lockstep not just for Kamala Harris, not just biased, but propagandizing and lying for Kamala Harris. I mean, the Liz Cheney thing is beyond the pale, accusing Donald Trump of wanting to execute Liz Cheney, beyond the pale. Donald Trump's done a very online campaign. Theo Vaughn, Full Send podcast, the All-In podcast, Joe Rogan. Now, there is some question out there. Has he been too online? Now, he also does TV, we should point out, and he loves TV. And I've heard him say TV is underrated, actually.

But it'll be a real indictment. I think it is the nail in the coffin of propagandizing legacy media. Yep. And the truth is, him being online as much as he has is an asset, if only because it's humanized him. What all of these appearances, McDonald's, the garbage truck, the Al Smith dinner, going on Rogan, it makes it so much harder for the Democrats to sell the idea that he's an existential threat. He's Hitler. He's going to end democracy. There have been too many interactions with the human side of Trump for the Democrats to close that sale.

That's why I think he's going to win. the turnout is on par with the polls, it's because when I'm out there on the street now, think of it this way. We did a package Saturday night, Fox News Saturday night, where I interviewed 100 people in Times Square, okay? The tally on that was about 85 to 15 Trump, but what's so significant is of that 85, about 60 of them were black men. Now rewind back to the summer of 2020. It would be unfathomable that in that summer when the country was on fire and we were torching police stations that black men would be openly declaring that if Trump doesn't win, it's rigged. Okay. He has penetrated a lot of social circles he never had access to because the

best surrogates he's had have been in this administration. They've made a better case for his presidency than he ever could. And it's allowed people to openly declare their support for him, which has opened up a lot of new doors, man. Do you think, so that's the question, Jimmy. And look, you and I have fun and I want to have a fun conversation. Look, I don't hold myself out as an expert, and I doubt you do as well on like early returns and turnout and that sort of thing. But it is going to be the story of the day, Jim, like who turns out? Is it women? Is it women that vote for Kamala Harris?

Is it Republican women? I keep hearing that story over and over who might vote for Kamala Harris, or is it black men who will show up and vote for Donald Trump? I don't know. I don't know that you or I know, but I think when we wake up to me, Tomorrow, Thursday, Friday, when this is over, that will be the story. Yep. The only thing I want to add to that is all of these Democratic dads who keep posting these videos about how they're voting Kamala so their daughter can have an abortion someday.

It is weird to me that no Democratic dad is saying that so their son can have an abortion someday. It's like they made up the whole men can get pregnant thing, Will. I don't understand. Oh, right. Yeah. Right. How you dare forget your son. Yeah.

And you know, they say, like, you can't electioneer and you can't wear campaign merch to the polls. Like, the woman online in front of me this morning had a COVID mask on. I'm like, that's a Kamala shirt. There is no one voting in a COVID mask that is voting for Trump. Nobody. That's fair. I saw a lady in the diner men to go wearing a mask. And I was like, well, I kind of know where that's going.

But how about this? My cameraman, Rick, just pointed this out to me. He said, hey, you know what was genius about Donald Trump wearing a safety vest? to signify the garbage comment is that right now everybody's going to polls fighting traffic and there's somebody standing around the pole center with the reflector vest on me because that's what you got to wear. And now you go, hmm, is that a Trump supporter? Whole new world, man, but he did. He's winning the optics battle. I love it. It's going to be a great show, man. Yeah. What do you got coming up today on your show? We don't want to miss it as soon as the

Will Kane show is over, by the way. Fox Across America with Jimmy Phelowler. Yeah, and it's a must listen because if you sit through three hours of my show, you leave feeling like you two could get a nationally syndicated talk show. So empowerment is the message of the day, but we're doing what you're doing, okay? The country's on fire. We're roasting some marshmallows, and we're going to have a good time yucking it up and kind of forecasting the way this goes. My prediction, if you want to know, okay, they say if Trump's doing well, there's going

to be early indicators in Georgia in states like that. Okay. Now, if Trump's doing really well, okay, they say around 2 a.m., Doug M. Tom Hoff's nanny will get a U-Up text. And so that's how, that's what the decision desk told me earlier. So we'll see. Well, watch your cell phones. Watch your phones.

Okay. All right, more of that on Fox Across America with Jimmy Fela. He's the host of also Fox News Saturday Night with Jimmy Fela. He's my friend. I'm so glad he gave us a little time today here on the Will Cane Show. Thank you, Jimmy. You're the best, man. Happy Election Day.

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Every crime tells a story, but some stories are left unfinished. Somebody knows. Real cases, real people. Listen and follow now at Fox Truecrime.com. Welcome back to the Will Kane Show coming to you live in this special Election Day episode from the sweet spot, Concord, North Carolina, one of the seven. important battleground swing states. If you're out here in Concord, North Carolina, I'll be hanging out for the next hour and 15 minutes. You can come down here. Perhaps you get on the show, like Charlie, you let off our show today, telling me why he disagrees with me on basically everything

that I stand for and believe. But that's what we do here on the Will Kane show. And you should subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or on YouTube. But polls are open. People are voting. Some 60 to 70% of the electorate seem to have already voted in early voting or absentee or mail-in. So we have some indication. We have some ability to read the T-Lees. Let's do so with two people that know. How about Fox News Digital Political correspondent, Brooke Singman, and former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy joining us on the Will Cain Show.

Good morning to you both. Good morning. Good morning, good to see you, Brooke. Hi, House Speaker, can you come here on? Glad to have you both on. I'll start with you, Mr. Speaker. This is, you know, we keep trying to compare this to the past, and that's the best that I can do.

Kevin is compared to 2020, 2016. I'm starting to think that I shouldn't compare it to 2020. I just don't know, you know, Democratic turnout in Pennsylvania, way less than it was in 2020. But what does that tell me? You know, Republicans doing a much better job, as you well know, Mr. Speaker, in the past, than in the past when it turns out early voting, but I just don't know what to compare it to. Like, I guess what most important is it looks like Donald Trump is doing better he did in 16 when he won and when Republicans go back to 20. 12 and 08. It does seem like on the ground, this is historically good for Donald Trump. Yeah. And you're right to question whether you should compare. Because remember, 2020 was

COVID. And they did change a lot of election laws during COVID. Like for Pennsylvania, they mailed everybody a ballot. And there's 300,000 Democrats who voted in that presidential election who have never voted since. Well, the election laws now have come back. So it is a different scenario. But there are some things you should compare at this moment in time four years ago the democrats had an advantage because they already banked more than a million more votes than republicans now they only have a 400 in pennsylvania in pennsylvania now they only have a 400 000 now if you go where you are in north carolina they had an advantage there now they're behind um the democrats had an advantage four years

ago now they're behind so it's you love sports you're great at news you're great at sports it's like being in the fourth quarter and you're in the lead you're in you rather be in the lead than be behind but you know if it's if it's a super bowl and it's the patriots versus atlanta you want a great quarterback like tom brady go bring you back right and but trump has led the majority of the time he had a bip down and he came back up um so i'd rather be trump than her the also is you want to look at the timing of where you are the generic ballot was plus six for democrats four years ago it's point four for Republicans now. But the pollsters got it wrong four years ago. They said that Biden would win Wisconsin by six points. They underestimated Trump by like 4.2. And so what happened

was Trump lost Wisconsin, but only by 20,000 votes. So we'll never know who's right until the election happens. We don't want to spend a lot of time on polls today because polls have opened and people are now voting. Brooke, but to the speaker's point, if I look back at any previous election year, national poll or state by state, the point is the Democrat would have been leading by much bigger margins than they are today or the Republican Donald Trump is leading. And if this does hold to the past where people, for some reason, consistently have underpolled the Trump voter, then it could be a big win for Donald Trump. I don't know, you've been with the Trump campaign, Brooke. You're there with them. Do you get a sense of confidence? I get a sense of confidence, but then

it's just when you are out there with them, that energy on the ground from his supporters is truly unmatched. Like, I traveled with the president to McDonald's in Pennsylvania a few weeks ago. That location of that McDonald's was not leaked out by the McDonald's until probably, I think, like a half an hour before the president got there just because of security. When I tell you, thousands and thousands of people were lining the street and just to see his supporters so emotional when he arrived somewhere, even going to his rallies like the energy there that his supporters believe in all states that he holds his rallies whenever he shows up even in a state like new york where you know will a republican flip deep blue

new york red i don't know but the fact that he took the time it takes the time to visit all these places where he knows he has supporters i mean that means something to the american voter and they feel like he is listening to them and i will say he posted on his truth social before it's officially election day stay in line you know there are long lines but i will say obviously early voting has traditionally been a place that democrats have seen higher numbers republicans have voted early this cycle in record fashion but i will say in speaking just voters there are republican voters that refused to vote early they want to watch their ballot be cast they want to watch it go through the system to make sure it went through i will say

you know what I mean so I well but I will say from Republicans today too that'll be interesting to watch because I was in Georgia on Friday at a diner I'm in North Carolina today and I ask always who's voted

and Mr. Speaker the hands go up on early voting I mean that's just a little snap poll but I mean I would say 80 to 90 percent of people voted early now today in North Carolina I met some people like I always traditionally do it on election day so I'm going to do that

I have two questions to put to you guys. And again, I'm sensitive and cognizant. I don't want to dive into polling numbers, but I think this is important to understand. You pointed out, Mr. Speaker, that every of the past election, 16 and 20 with Trump, they have undercounted Trump support. He's always exceeded whatever the polling going into election day was. Any chance they figured it out, meaning they've twisted their dials,

they've been like, we can't get this wrong a third time. I know that Harris supporters believe that to be the case. they believe that pollsters have overcompensated for getting it wrong twice. You don't know until the election, but Nate Cohen analyzed the New York Times ones, and he says they underestimated because white Republicans are 16% less likely to answer the poll than white Democrats in the poll, so they say that's off there. Look, I talked to the president twice yesterday. He called me in the morning and then in the afternoon.

He is confident to where his campaigns at. He is enthusiastic, exactly what Brooks said. You cannot walk away from a rally and not be enthusiastic, right? And so this poll is really on the ground, what we're seeing. And you brought up a good point, Will. Right. This whole point of early voting, I'm a person that would always want to go to the day of the election, only because I love that feeling like to take my kids.

I wanted the experience to build it into them. But with work, I had to vote absentee. So I trust it. This is where we failed four years ago. we failed because you may have a good intention to vote on this on election day but something might come up you might get sick you might get busy the more you bank the votes away the stronger the election you will have and we learned our lesson but the one thing you want to look at I do not believe there's an

undecided voter on these early votes who's getting the most of the low propensity voters the voter that normally doesn't come out that that campaigns call one of four voters that in the last four elections vote one time and it looks though, in some analysis that Republicans have done a little better. So you're not cannibalizing your vote just moving it early. You're actually getting those that are less likely to vote in.

That's banking and that's putting money in the bank that helps you for election day. You know, Brooke, again, talking to people, really quick, Brooke, talking to people here in North Carolina, I wouldn't use the word confidence because I think everybody's a little gun shy from

2020 when they probably did feel confident and it went another way. But also, North Carolina is one of the seven swing states. It is. And so I ask him, how do you feel about your neighbors? How do you feel about? And everybody's like, uh, you know, kind of split. But it always comes back to women, Brooke. It comes down to like, are there women who will vote for Trump or, and specifically, are there Republican women who are like, I just don't like the man, so I'm going to vote for comment. That's impossible for me to understand on a first principles perspective. Like, how do you just, I don't understand anybody goes from

never Trump to voting for Kamala Harris. I just, I don't get it. But the question is, will women enough to swing this election do that in North Carolina and in these swing states like Pennsylvania? I don't know. We're really going to have to see. But what I was going to say, and it actually relates to that. So I spoke with Kelly Ann Conway, who says there's really no such thing.

And it goes back to the polls. There's really no such thing as a closet Kamala voter unless, you know, it's these Republican women that would go vote. for Kamala, but she says there's no such thing as a closet Kamala voter. It's closet Trump voters. And so she felt that the polls were underperforming for him, which I actually do agree with. But when it comes to these possible closet Kamala voters that are Republican women, I don't, I think Republican women are going to turn out for President Trump. I do. I mean, the issue of abortion has been this issue forever. I think that this, the Democrats have done a fantastic job this cycle of the misinformation game related to the issue of abortion, I personally

think. The Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, turning the issue of abortion back to the states. So it really doesn't matter if President Trump is in the Oval Office, if Vice President Harris is in the Oval Office, if Kermit the Frog is in the Oval Office. It does not matter because the Supreme Court overturned the decision, and now the decision lies with the states. So every person in this country can vote down ballot in a different way about that issue because it has nothing to do with the white house the republicans have said they won't push a national abortion ban trump has said he won't sign a national abortion ban he has said he supports um exceptions for rape incest life of mother and then you have vice president harris and

all of her surrogates saying trump will sign a national abortion ban and saying that that they will take away every right to any type of women's health care that's not true they kept trying to tie him to Project 2025. Every time that happens, the Trump campaign says they have nothing to do with it. So they've done a great job with the misinformation. And Vice President Harris, even in her last speech in Washington, she said, if you elect me, president, and I get to be in the White House, I will codify Roe v. Wade. Really? Well, Roe v. Wade was overturned two and a half three years ago, right? You've been in the White House this whole time. So you're just lying. If you had the power to do that, wouldn't you have done that now? So I think that issue,

is such, it's actually so frustrating as a woman. And I think that voting block that 18 to 35 voting block that I know Vice President Harris has been really going after on the call her daddy podcast, which to me is just insulting what? An 18 to 35 year old woman wouldn't read the Wall Street Journal. But, you know, it's just, it's an interesting issue. And we'll see if Republican women actually go for that. But I do think from who I've spoken to voters on the ground, those are like women who want crime to be. crime to be reduced who want the border secure who want the grocery prices to go down and it's like they know trump and they know what their life was like under trump so i've bounced i've bounced

back and forth on calling you speaker mr speaker kevin at times and i've met you a few times it's like coach it's like one of those things like you keep it forever right you definitely keep what your i think you keep speaker yes once your speaker you're always mr speaker uh so mr speaker uh one more in the weeds on north carolina because i think you obviously in helping others run for Congress but also your own races. It seems notable here in North Carolina that there are reports that Kamala Harris pulled her ads

from Carolina and moved them. This was, I don't have this confirmed but I did hear it several times to Virginia. That would be a huge defensive move. I don't, and I guess to some extent I don't want to say giving up on North Carolina, but it seems notable. Yeah. And you know, if you're a Democrat

in North Carolina, Republicans have a top of ticket problem for the governor's race. Okay. And so you would think if you're running for president, try to get some coat tails in there. For her to pull back is a bad sign for her. It shows that she's got to defend that of the wall. Because if she won North Carolina, she really could be putting the race out of reach for us. Now, on your last question there, I think Republicans have to acknowledge we do have a gender problem. But I really studied this. And I went back and looked.

And if you look at, think about, Kamala Harris would be the first woman elected president. that's going to enhance women voting for it. The Supreme Court decision, regardless of how you feel, it is a disadvantage in the polls the way the Democrats have played it, but we still won seats in California and New York. It's how you explain it. But if you look at the gender gap right now, she's actually behind where Joe Biden was by about 1.6%.

It's a problem, but how much? The thing that she has to worry about compared to Biden is, Trump's getting 41% of the Hispanic vote, and he's over 16% in the black vote. Now, that puts it in a very hard play for her to win if that is consistent. And this is the last question. The thing I've always looked at in anybody running a campaign, I work from Election Day backwards. What is in the voters' mind on Election Day? She spent more than a billion dollars.

Tell me the three things she will do if she wins the presidency. I've never seen a campaign with so much money. fail in the most basic thing to tell the voters what you would do and that any voter could repeat it. They want it to be the same thing that it has been for the last three election cycles, which is a referendum on Donald Trump. Last thing, Mr. Speaker, when will we know who's the next president of the United States? I think watch Pennsylvania. Whoever wins Pennsylvania is. If Trump wins Pennsylvania, it's over. And if Kamala Harris loses this race, it will be because she passed on Shapiro. She listened to Nancy Pelosi to pick waltz, and she ran a bad campaign.

And how long will it take in Pennsylvania? I think you can know tonight compared where. Now, this is the difference. I knew last election night that we won the majority. It wasn't declared, though, right? So you will see for momentum, and I hope for America, whoever wins electoral college, wins the popular vote as well. And I know this race is very close. That doesn't mean it ends up that way.

One or two percent in one way could be a big electoral vote election. and it could be over with. And so if President Trump picks up Pennsylvania but also gets Arizona and gets Nevada, people don't have to worry until it's finally clarified and declared. You'll know that, yes, he's going to be the next president. And with only the second one to come back and win it again. All right. Former Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy here on The Wilcane Show,

and Fox News Digital Producer and reporter, Brooke Singman as well, who's with the Trump campaign. Thank you guys both so much for being with us today. the Will Cain Show. Thank you. Thanks, Will. All right. Happy election day. Let's do this. We're going to take a quick 90-second break. While you're taking a break, head over the Spotify or Apple and hit subscribe to the Will Cain Show. Do so here on YouTube. If you're watching on Facebook, drop into the comments. We're bringing the show because when we come back, the host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Clay Travis next on the Will Cain Show.

Musk, Joe Rogan, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Tulsi Gabbard. What a coalition behind Donald Trump. It's the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. This is a special Election Day episode, two hours uninterrupted. We've had former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. We've had Jimmy Fela of Fox Across America. We've had Buck Sexton of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Joining us today here on the Will Cane Show. And coming up and in this next hour, we have Dave Portnoy of Barstool Sports. Josh Crash Hour, who's going to break down the numbers for us, and we may just talk to some of the people here in Concord, North Carolina, where I'm broadcasting live from the sweet spot. We invited a diner in a little bit earlier who had the debate with me over Kamala Harris

versus Donald Trump. We probably won't have a debate because we're probably in some level of disagreement, but if we have half of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show on in the last hour, we need to bring the other half in. It is, my friend, it is Clay Travis, who joins us now on the Will Kane show. What's up, Clay? I'm excited. I'm a data nerd. So I have been diving into some of these early numbers as well as the early voting to try to glean some sort of idea about what exactly we should expect, as we're soon going to be up on noon on the East Coast. A lot of voters already out, 80 million early votes in. And I would imagine a lot of people I saw when I was driving my kids into school this morning, a lot of people going

in to vote in my hometown of Nashville. So I know a lot of people go in to vote early in the morning. I think probably we're somewhere around. I would bet 75% of all voters have already made their voice heard as we come up on noon on the East Coast. And I think Trump's going to win. Yeah, you wrote that column, Clay. You feel really confident. What is it in the data that you've already, you're a data nerd you said you've already been diving in? Why do you feel so confident for Trump? All right. So I made my own viewer guide here, Will. I'm like, old school. I like yellow pads and I like to jot down stuff

just like back in law school, back in the day. Clay. Clay. You never lose the habit. There you go. Same. Always the legal pad. Always the legal pad. So here's what is out there right now as we are speaking at 11 Eastern, right? So if they clip this and they share

it eight hours from now and I look like a moron, I want it known. I'm talking about the data that is out there right now at 11 a.m. Eastern. Let's start with Florida, Will. Right now, Republicans have a one million vote in the state of Florida. Trump won Florida by less than 400,000 votes in 2020. We all know Ron DeSantis had a blowout win in 2022, right around 19 points.

But if Trump is, and I think he is based on the numbers that are in right now, to put together a double-digit win in Florida, that is a very good sign for how he's going to do in Georgia. and let me explain why. He only won Florida by three points in 2020. Georgia went to Biden by about whatever it was 10,000, 12,000 votes. You know this well, having spent a lot of time in the area. There's a lot of overlap between South Georgia and Northern Florida. That is the great line that you get in Florida is the further north you go,

the more southern you get. I have a place in the Panhandle, which is basically just a lower Alabama. Alabama, right? If Alabama hadn't screwed up back in the 1800s, they would have had a lot more beachfront property than they do. And that area right there is very Republican. The Panhandle is the most Republican area. Florida, South Georgia is very Republican. If they are blowing out numbers there, there's a lot of cross-pollination there. I think Trump will win Georgia if these Florida numbers are really good. Now, I'm a little bit nervous about North Carolina, Will. I went into Asheville. Place is devastated. And frankly, we in the media are not doing a good enough job of still telling the story of how devastating that area is. A lot of people are concerned about being able to actually just get through and live, much less who's going to win in 2024. And Western North Carolina has been the base of Donald Trump's support. I still think he wins North Carolina based on the early voting where he has the lead. Clay.

But it's going to close. on that note i'm i'm in north carolina right now i'm in conquered just out of side of charlotte north carolina and i met several people who drove in from the mountains that's how they self-describe where they came from and they were a little short admittedly of the devastation meaning a little further east than most of devastation but they all had family and they all talked about it they called themselves mountain people by the way and they said the turnout is huge they said the turnout is huge in that area uh and it's it's obviously as you point leaning right Yeah, my only concern on that, leaving aside the more serious concerns about, hey, if people have places to live, are they going to be able to have running water, which they still don't have reliable running water?

Schools just got back up recently. Well, a lot of people made the decision to leave that area somewhat with their families to go to different places as often happens to have a natural disaster. How many of those people, yes, people who are still there may be able to vote, but how many people went to different states, how many people are just lost in translation? But so that is, I think, significant. So that's kind of the southeast picture. Right now, Republicans are up around 200,000 votes in Arizona. If you asked me to give a prediction on the battleground state that is most likely to flip to Trump from Biden in 2020, it was Arizona beyond a shadow of it out. I would at this point, Will, would be stunned if Arizona doesn't. Again, everybody needs to keep voting, go out. Don't listen to me. Because I said, go vote. But I would. be stunned if Arizona's not flipping. And then Nevada, right now Republicans have, again, at 11 a.m. Eastern, which is only what, 8 a.m. on the, on the West Coast, I think they are right now. Right now, Republicans have around a 40,000 vote lead. That's a decent margin that they have built in. People are going to be voting all day in Nevada. I like Republican chances to flip that state as well. If I'm right on all that, if I'm right about Georgia and I'm right about North Carolina, and I'm right about Nevada and I'm right about Arizona.

It's still will going to come down to the Big Ten states. And Trump is going to have to, even if I'm right about all those states, it only gets him to 268. He's going to have to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin to get over 270. Or he's going to have to win Omaha, Nebraska, which would get us to potentially a 269-269 tie. So that's the state right now. On that, and on that, which I love that you call it the Big Ten states instead of the blue wall.

But on that, everybody's focused on Pennsylvania. I just had the former Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy on. He talked about Pennsylvania. I've seen rumblings, Clay, that people aren't paying enough attention to Wisconsin. Wisconsin, if you, it almost feels like if you ranked them in probability for Donald Trump, it would probably go Pennsylvania, then Wisconsin, then Michigan would be my assumption. But there are others saying, number one, might be Wisconsin. Well, if you go back to the 2020 election results, Wisconsin was the closest state, around 20,000 vote margin for Biden in 2020. Wisconsin's notoriously difficult to poll, and so nobody ever seems to really have an idea how things are going there.

But I think that there is a good chance that Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are going to vote together. Michigan, I think, is the most challenging, although will the wrinkle and the wild card, I would say, in general here is that Michigan, you have, my wife's from Michigan, I've spent a lot of time in Southeast Michigan over the years. You've got a huge Arab population and you have a huge Jewish population. In 2020, Joe Biden won both those groups by massive numbers. Kamala Harris has got a real challenge on her hands being able to maneuver in that arena where obviously they're at loggerheads with what's happened since October 7th. If those were, if you told me right now, hey, Jewish voters in Michigan are going to go 50-50, and Arab voters in Michigan are going to go 50-50.

That is just a wash, basically. I think I would predict Trump to win Michigan as well. So we don't really know the data out there is not very reliable on exactly how those guys are going to vote in that particular group to say nothing of their turnout. But if I were betting right now, and you know I love to bet, Will, I would say there's about a two and, you know, like Trump should. I would have to get two or three to one to me on Kamala Harris right now for me to take her to win the election. All right. Clay, you know this. It's a big endorsement today. Came out yesterday, Joe Rogan endorsing Donald Trump. He did so after a podcast he just uploaded with Elon Musk. On that episode, Musk made his case for why this election is so important.

Let's listen to it together on the Joe Rogan experience. Well, I'll say it again, man. I think this was a lot. the last election. If Trump doesn't win, this is the last election. I think you're right. Yeah. I think you're right. And I think people, and a lot of people are waking up and realize that, that have been lifelong Democrats, guys like Bill Ackman, guys like Chmoth, you know, Tulsi Gabbard switched over to the Republicans. Like, there's a lot of people who their whole life, they've been left wing and they realize, like, I can't do this anymore. You and I used to be Democrats. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. It's nuts, man. And so, Clay, there's a,

If we flesh that out, there's a lot of reasons why one would say this could be the last election. Rogan's talked about the role of illegal immigration and into the swing states where they've been sent. But here's what I wanted to focus on for a moment. You know, I had Buck on a little bit earlier, and Buck and I have pretty much walked roughly the same journey when it comes to why we vote the way we vote or why we believe, why we believe. You and I were in sports together, and we were on the same side, but we weren't always, meaning you before, and you've been open about this, you voted for Obama. you've had a conversion that really kind of predated what we're seeing with young men.

Young men right now through Rogan and Musk and others are going heavy towards Trump. You were probably five, six years before that. What is it that brought you in this direction, Clay? Yeah, it's such a good question. I do feel like I've kind of walked the same path that Joe Rogan and Elon Musk have and frankly that Tulsi Gabbard has. And Bill Ackman, as you mentioned, there's a lot of people who are traditional Democrats. I voted for Barack Obama.

By 2016, I was frankly very frustrated with both parties. And I voted libertarian with Gary Johnson. And I understand everybody out there's like, oh, you moron. I mean, I've got plenty of voting history for people to hate me on both sides for a variety of reasons. But then I saw Trump labeled basically the Great Satan Biden media. And I saw Colin Kaepernick taking a knee. I saw the idea that suddenly if you were trans, like you were Caitlin Jenner, that you got an espie and i just started looking around and saying i don't recognize this country

anymore and um look i i've argued this and i argued in my most recent book will if you went back and actually just considered bill clinton 92 ronald regan 1980 and baroque obama 2008 leave aside the political parties every single one of them i would say at its essence was America is awesome. The fact that I could be elected president is evidence of that. Whether in Hope Arkansas, it was Bill Clinton as a single parent from a single parent home, relatively humble beginnings, Barack Obama, mixed race kid from Hawaii, Ronald Reagan, you know, the sort of, I would say almost like the cowboy, right,

in the old ads that they used to do for cigarettes, right? like this sort of rugged American individualism and an embrace of the amazing nature of this country. And when Obama won in 12, this is my sort of retroactive analysis, in 2008, it was race doesn't matter. We all have more in common than we do different. I'm in evidence of that. Let's take America into a new generation. In 2012, they turned on identity politics. and basically it became your race, your gender, your sexual orientation, that was all that

mattered. I actually come to think that that's some of the least interesting things about people. The choices you make, to me, are more interesting than the identity you're born with. And that woke culture kind of took over. Now, so that was my pivot, 20. I was all in for Trump. COVID accelerated it probably because I'm still furious that they shut down our schools, that they wouldn't let us play sports, that,

that horse kids were the ones who were least likely to be present. And let me just react, by the way, to that clip. Oprah said something similar on the left side. I do not believe that this is the last election. I'm going to be crushed if Kamala wins. I think she is an awful candidate. I think it will be the culmination of Democrats of the speech or put anybody in. But I don't think that we're not going to have an election in 28.

And I also don't think that if Trump wins, somehow he's going to turn into an autocrat dictator and he's Hitler. and we're never going to have an election in 28. We're going to have another election, but I do think it's important that we get this one right. All right, before I say goodbye to you, Clay, and let you go do the Clay, Travis, and Buck, Sexton Show. Let's bring in. I did ask him ahead of time if he's up for it

because you guys are old buddies, your old pals. Hey, what's up? Dave Portnoy from Barstall Sports joining us now. What's up, Dave? Well, yeah, you asked me two seconds before I came on. I like, hey, do you care for you're going on with Clay? You literally asked two seconds ago. So let's not ask like this a week.

Well, you could have said no, Dave. No, I wasn't going to say no, but no. Two-second ask. It was within 60 seconds. What would you have said no if I gave you, if I gave you, if I gave you 10 minutes, Dave, would you say no? No, probably not, but it was like we, it wasn't a long ass. That's all I was saying. Look, well, I'm glad to get you guys together.

We kept disagreed on a lot over the years. I think we are almost an agreement on everything politically, which by the way may make a lot of people nervous. because there are a lot of people that don't like us, but I've seen a lot of the stuff he's been putting out lately. I agree with most of it, almost, all of it. And look,

I think sanity, I'm hoping, is going to win today. And if it does it, I'm going to be a little bit nervous when I wake up to tomorrow or Thursday. The coin flip. I think we've got a coin flip. Well, I'm going to break that down with you, Dave. Clay already brought up the betting odds.

And that was something I was going to talk about with you, Dave, but Clay, we appreciate you being on today. Go have fun on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We'll do. Good to see you, Dave. See you, Dave. See you guys. All right. Dave, coin flip. First of all, Dave, Portnoy of Barstool Sports here with us on the Will Kane show. Super glad to have him on the show.

Dave, you're always talking about betting. You're always, it's usually we're on sports. But, I mean, I don't, I don't think you can do it if you live in America. You have to do it from offshore, which you may be ready to do to bet on the presidential race. But like on that, just from an X's and O's, which way I'd place my money right now, how do you feel, Harris or Trump? I would bet it on Trump, but I certainly would not be feeling overly comfortable. I really like what I just said. I think it's a coin flip.

If I'm looking at a college football board and there's a million games and this is one of them, it's a stayaway. Like that, I don't have much confidence in it. I hope I'm right. It's like 5149. That's how I feel. And you see so much stuff, like the polling, and it really depends. You can just scroll down X or you can turn on the TV and it depends who you're listening to what they're saying. You know, you can make a case right now for anybody.

It's really hard to tell. You know, Clay said something interesting that I didn't know if you would agree with her nod your head. He said that you guys agree on a lot of, no, he said you agree on everything. I would say you guys agree on a lot of things. I don't know where your disagreement may lie, but I just, you're a naturally disagreeable person. By the way, so am I, Dave. Not an insult. You want to find where you want to disagree.

It's more interesting when you disagree than when we all nod along with one another. But here's what I wanted to ask you. I don't know where your politics are. It's not even that important to me, Dave. But, you know, I've gotten to know a lot of the guys at work at Barstool. And I'm also not asking you to out anyone else's politics. But you, I would guess, Dave, like, let's just rewind the clock 10 years. my assumption of you 10 years ago would not be that you and I had so much agreement.

Whereas something's changed and younger dudes, no one in particular I'm talking about, but younger dudes at Barstool, younger dudes at large, do have way more agreement with me, have moved to the right. I mean, you're around young guy, you and are about the same age, but a lot of guys that work with you in their 20s. You have to have seen this as well at Barstool, or at least even in your fan base. Yeah, I mean, Barstow's pretty splits. So, you know, we'll have some people who are left, right.

I have certainly moved more right. I would say growing up, I was always interested politics, but I sort of this contradictory, apolitical, like, I don't know, I didn't, my family was, like, I remember I went to a rally of Jerry Brown when I was a little kid of all people, for some reason I liked him. But then I didn't pay as much attention, and really, I would say what shifted for me is me personally I sort of became a little bit politicized

like I because of Barstool I think a lot of people looked at it as bro culture and that was something that in this country was very much being frowned upon by the left like if you were kind of a white middle class male Duke lacrosse all of it that vibe was kind of shifting

and it was a negative connotation whether in a frat whatever and I wasn't and as I barstool rose I found out most of the people that really hated my guts and really were trying to tear down what I built or come after me personally tended to be extreme left. And weirdly, a lot of the social values, I may agree with some of the stuff that they supposedly believe in. Like I've said, I'm pro-choice. That's a very big issue for me. I'm still, and I actually said I think that may make me vote Democrat.

It's not because of everything that's happened. So I've shifted. When you say, real quick, when you say that's a really big issue to you, like in the past, might that have defined your vote? Yes, could have defined my vote. That could have defined my vote. A lot of things. And by the way, when I said that, I got crucified by the right, people who for a long time were like, we like Dave, we like Dave. Suddenly they hated me on that one issue, which drives me nuts about politics.

Like, you don't have to agree with everybody on every single issue. But so much happened since then. I think Kamo is a horrific candidate, a horrific. I don't think it's right. And I resent the Democrats for not letting somebody like me who potentially could vote Democrat if I liked the candidate. I wouldn't have voted for Biden. They knew Biden was unfit.

They waited till after the primary. So whoever is controlling these people could still be in power. That infuriates me. That you want to talk, and I've said it, everything they talk about threat to democracy with Trump and dictator. What they did was the biggest miscarriage of democracy or subverting of democracy, I think, in my lifetime. And I know you'll have- Placing Kamala. Yes, placing. Oh, well, the Constitution says you can do it.

That's semantics. Those people are, those people know what happens. happened. So that drove me nuts. I don't think the last four years has been good. I think there's an element and it's happened now for a while where working hard, being successful, making money is all frowned upon. Like those are things now that you should feel guilty about. And that all comes from the left and I hate it. And you have Kamala multiple times saying I was the last person in the room. I was involved in every decision. What would you do different things? then Joe Biden, nothing, and then saying, we've got to turn the page, we've got to do all this. And you look at the world, the border, the Middle East, all things, bad. They're all bad to me. And you have a candidate who has been in power saying she was involved in decisions. So it's just a horrible, horrible, horrible candidate that they gave.

So that's why I'm voting Trump. You're voting Trump. Yes. you know what's interesting about what you just described to me it's like it's almost as though this happened to you as much as you happened to change and the why is always interesting and you started to say part of the why like why did you become public enemy number one for those who as you described accurately are far left and part of it is you i mean it is i don't know it's a little bit like trump honestly it's your personality but i'm for just being real but i think you're right that part of it's your success i mean your success for some reason is vilified and then there's the last part of it which is you talk about the things that they seem to think are villainous i mean masculinity has become villainous for some reason on the left and barstool and you embrace masculinity i think that's the why of what happened to you yeah i i would agree with that

and it's movements that you can sort of draw a line so i I've been doing this for 20 years. So we've had, in my 20 years, Occupy Wall Street, if you remember that, Black Lives Matter, obviously. Now you have the Middle East, the, you know, Hamas, the Palestine. There's real issues and all those issues. And there's supporters of those issues with real causes. And then I firmly believe you have a group of people who are serial protesters in hate America. and they are going to show up at Occupy Wall Street.

They're going to show up at the BLM. They're going to show up at, and they don't even know what they're protesting. But there's an element of like, we're anti-colonizer, anti-and-they-golder, and they go back in time, it doesn't matter who it is, where anti-success, anti-white male, anti-America. And that movement, I don't love. And again, it's not everybody because it's like the fringe, the real movements almost get hijacked, like, if that makes any. He said. So I don't know. And that seems to be the left. That seems to be as much as I sit back and I think I, if you just took a scorecard, what's Dave believe in? I think for the most part, I'd end up more so on the left than I would on the right. But I'm firmly voting for trying. It's not like it's a hard decision for me right now. Well, explain that to me. So if you had a candidate, you said Kamala is a horrific candidate and Biden was incapable. He was inept.

and you're still pro-choice, what would a Democrat have been able to say or do that would have brought you, I guess, back? Because, like, you said, you were kind of a Democrat. So, like, you still have the pro-choice issue. Are there other issues at this point where you look at Democrats and you go, they're singing my song? Well, I'm, you know, I'm not overly religious. The right tends to be religious. Like, if you want to have gay marriage and every say, I don't care, go do it. Like, I'm really very much.

But that's in the past. I mean, that, that issue's gone, and that's not one that you would even hear from the right. Well, I guess it depends what, like, state you're in, no? No, not anymore. You think the entire right's just, like, totally, totally fine with that. Well, no, I just think that issue's gone. No, there's two different issues here. Are you fine with it on an individual basis?

And as you point out, if you talk to some very religious people, they may tell you, know, and that may cause Dave Porto to go, well, I'm not with you, but it's not an issue that's going to actually be on the ballot anymore. It's passed, you know? Yeah, I guess it's how I look socially at the world. Like, and again, I look at it very much and like I want the government to stay out of my business, almost on everything. And I feel like the parties kind of crisscross. Sometimes the right wants the government out. Sometimes they want them in and the same with the left. And I want it out on everything. I want, like, as much individual let the person do whatever they want across the board that's kind of how i look at the

world well i would be curious dave and seriously like i would hope that you and i have a relationship well into the future if there ever is a situation where you're like no now i'm back on the left what i will be interested in the conversation having with you at that point is how does that party anymore which is about infiltrating your life on every level right from economics to to sports even I mean, there's government interference in everything that is embodied by the left. And it's just become more of a machine. They say save our democracy. They mean save our bureaucracy.

And I mean that. And I want to have that conversation with you when that day comes. Well, let's take weed. Well, here is a Democrat. Well, let's take weed. Right. Like, I want to say it feels totally strongly one way or the other. Like, the right doesn't want to legalize marijuana, right?

I would say the majority. Yeah. The majority of the right probably does not. Why do they care what I'm doing in my house? And that's an example to your point of where you can say the right wants to regulate one aspect of your life. But I would challenge you if you were making a legal pad ledger and you came up at this point. I mean, one for the right. The other side's got a million. And I know you're going to say it's a state versus a federal level, but it's still government. Why is the government involved in a woman's right to choose?

that's why is the government making that decision right but you know that's a huge issue that the government's evolved in but you know the answer to that as well right i mean like that's the answer to that is simply if you believe you're protecting another right that's the right to life of an individual and then you get into the religious or philosophical debate about when does life begin it's never the truth is dave that is not about women like if you meet somebody on the right that wants that that is uh pro life it's not some desire reduction into, I want to control women. It's like, you know what, woman, you can smoke weed. I don't care what you do. But if you have another life inside of you, I have to have rights to

protect that life. And so, for example, you probably wouldn't be for a pregnant woman, you know, smoking meth throughout their pregnancy. And then you'd say, well, why? Why would I not? I'd want to, I'd want to outlaw a woman smoking meth throughout pregnancy. If you ask that question, meth during pregnancy, I think 99% of the 99.9 is going to say, yeah, you can't do it. When you have an issue, where you have intelligent minds, I consider myself an intelligent mind, you an intelligent mind, intelligent minds disagreeing 50, 50, 60, 40, that is enough of a disagreement where I do feel like somebody should step back, say, there's all these people.

Why is my moral view or religious belief more important than somebody else's? They can do what they want. It doesn't affect me. Well, the answer to that, and I don't want to have this debate, because that's the deep debate about wind life. begins is that you have to protect the people that can't speak for themselves. In that case, they're talking about the child. But I saw you tweet during Roe v. Wade, but you know what you just described us what we have now. By repealing Roe v. Wade, what you did is turn it back into that 60, 40, 50, 50, 50 issue to be decided by democracy on a state to state level. But there will be people in this country, and if you're in a state that you lose that right,

and you're poor or whatever you can't go again it's a deep debate my general point of view if enough of the country intelligently disagrees with each other there is logic there's no issue where 50% believe one and 50 believe the other where you can it's like this election where everyone's idiots so then let the people decide their way and you stay out of it that's how i kind of look at everything. I hear you. So when you say let the people decide your way, you're not talking about even to the democratic process because you're still talking about maybe 51% controlling the rights of 49. So you would prefer it to be some type of thing protected from the democratic process, saying this is so divisive. Let's err on the side of the right. Of letting an individual choose

by themselves. That's what you believe. I overall, correct, which I overall think is a right corp take the issue out but is a right belief of keeping the government out of your life right um all right setting aside the the ratings winner that always is abortion yeah um i'm sure i'm gonna get a million hate i'm gonna go vote for trump i'm gonna get a no but we're having a yeah i know you don't fair this is how people should discuss it do you care you bring it up do you actually care that people get mad at you you you kind of do if i think about it like you definitely don't alter who you are you you stay with you but you make freaking champagne bottles with your yeah it depends you kind of do you care about the hate there there's really different kinds of

hate like i got to it with dan ban gino who then i saw and apologized because he went nuclear on me after i the the rovers way tweet this is after six years is saying he love me that bothers me like intelligent minds can disagree on issues. That's one of the big issues with this country. You and I should be able to disagree anybody and still have friendly, be friends or friendly discourse.

That's one of the major things. This whole campaign, and I actually think one of the major issues also I have with the left is this, they didn't say anything about what they want to. Their entire campaign is Trump is Hitler, Trump is this, Trump is that, and then they'll say he's the one

with threatening rhetoric. That drives me nuts. They are the worst, how they can run a campaign like that. That's all they get because she's such a bad candidate. But an entire campaign just making Trump out to be this monster is insane. What do you say? I have two more things I want to do with you, Dave. Because like you said, Barstools 50-50 maybe, you live in, I think you're Florida, you're New York, your Nantucket, right? Do I have your fancy homes all nailed down? You got your nail on them. Yeah, yeah. Your resorts are all. Yeah, I've got it nailed. of the people. But you are in places where you're going to be around people who disagree with

you. And the thing that, I don't know, it always comes down to, oh, he's a racist, which I had that debate with a diner here in North Carolina earlier in the show. But the other one is what you described. Oh, he's a threat to democracy. You clearly don't believe that, Dave, from what I just heard you say. What do you even say? I mean, that's what it comes down to. Oh, he's a would-be authoritarian, and he wants to be a dictator. And he's going to ruin our democracy. I mean, they've said at the campaign, he was president. He was already president. He could have done what people are saying.

And by the way, if you're looking at threat to democracy, he could have, he was president when COVID started. You want to talk about a time or president, if so inclined, could have probably found a way to take more power and authority in a national thing we've never seen before. Didn't do it. You know who did it? the Democrats, when they wouldn't reopen small businesses,

wouldn't let them choose whether they could earn a living, the mask mandate, all this stuff. So I don't buy that. And then you fast forward to what I already mentioned. Who didn't have a primary? Who put in place a candidate who ran for president already and got zero votes? So I don't buy it at all. If you're going to say somebody is a threat to democracy, the Democrats in the lefts are the ones who have proven.

to be the bigger threat. And I don't even think that's close. Trump talks. I don't either. How I talk, but I'm not running for president. He talks in exaggerations like he's still on the apprentice or he's running a blog. And if he says, you know, we are going to make the 100 miles a wall and we did 100,000 miles, they fact check him.

It's like, well, your numbers are off. He talks like how I, if somebody. fact check and said, hey, Dave, he lies all the time because he said the Patriots are going to win by a hundred and they won by three. He's a liar. It's like a lot of that. And I've gone back and look, where are all these egregious lies? Most of them are just blatant exaggerations that are so obvious exaggerations. So I don't buy any of it. And it is scary. And even me. I don't know where as somebody who I feel

I think people listen to this conversation I don't just blindly go right it's very scary when even myself who tried to research can't always find the truth like stealing the election and things like that I think there's an element of truth to what's happening now

I also think you've got to regardless if he loses I think he's got to be like I lost and you almost going to tip your cap be like they cheated better if that's what happens but you have to move the power, but I don't think he's crazy for a lot of these things that they make him sound. And I even remember on the riot day,

it's like people get on January 6th, and they've twisted his words there because he did say a peaceful rally. And I think he could have done a better job of toning it down. But he's coming from a place where the country was having major riots and major cities and nobody was doing a thing. You have Walt's, what was his wife or his daughter's like, I love the smell of tire burning in Minnesota.

So he was angry. Maddie lost. He should have done a better job. But to blame that on him when the rest of the country is burning, you're not doing anything. They're just, it's tough. It's tough to see what the truth is. I feel the same way. The blanket accusation of lying is almost invariably hyperbolic real estate developer New York talk.

I want to ask you, I don't even know if you're friends with this guy, but you know, you're all over. over CNBC on occasion. I don't know if you've had interactions with Jim Kramer, but Jim Kramer put out a prediction. Here's the headline, Dave, if you can see it on your screen. But Jim Kramer says Monday's markets action suggests some traders anticipate a Harris win. Others are pointing out, by the way, if Jim Kramer is saying it,

make sure you place your bet the other way. Yeah, well, DJT was up like 15% last time I saw, which to me would be the most predictive of any of the stocks, right? it's his personal thing. I love Jim Kramer. Sometimes you're right. Sometimes you're wrong. I've been on his show.

I love the guy. I think he's hilarious. Big Eagle fan tried to ban me from wearing a Patriot Jersey Eagle Stadium. Who knows? Again, I don't, I remember last year during the last year,

last election, if I recall, Trump took a mammoth lead in the betting markets up till it flipping. So I don't think anybody knows. I really don't. I'm hoping is Trump.

I want it to be Trump. I don't think we're going to know tonight. I don't know when we're going to know. I don't either. I don't know. By the end of the week, I don't know. All right. Big fan, Dave Portnoy, Barstool Sports.

Appreciate you doing this today, man, giving us so much time. No, thanks for having me. See, we need more, more discourse when people disagree on issues. That is pleasant. I agree. I agree. And we did it on the worst of all issues. I know.

We're going down that road, and I was trying to think, where can I get off the highway? here but next time we'll do pats cowboys all right day portnoy thanks so much man all right appreciate him being on the will cane show i'm going to take a quick break um and here's what i'm going to do when we come back i'm going to talk to some people here in conquered north carolina and we're going to check in as well with josh crash hour um he is a fox news radio political analyst he's going to let us know as we set up for tonight what to expect while you take that break head over to spotify or apple hit subscribe if you're sitting here right now on

Facebook or YouTube, hit subscribe. Jump into the comments section. Some of you already have, like I saw, that dual box nine says Dave Portnoy sounds like a libertarian. More from you, the Willisha, coming up on the Will Cain show. What are people feeling here in the battleground state of North Carolina? What are people feeling all across the country? In just a moment, we're going to be speaking with Fox News Radio analyst, Josh Crash Hour, to break down where we are as we head into the night of the race for the president.

But before we do that, I want to invite a few people over. First of all, Alex, come on over here. Alex. Alex is the manager of the sweet spot here in Concord, North Carolina. I've been hanging out with Alex all morning. Thanks for having us here. I appreciate it. All right, you've got to talk straight into the microphone. Lean in like we're boyfriends.

And so this direction might picks up what you have. to say. So this morning when we were together, this place was full of people supporting Donald Trump. I did have a guest. One of your diners come on and debate me a little bit. He was a supporter of Kamala Harris. He had this hand, though. But, you know, this is a swing state. I would imagine a lot of people you're meeting, seeing coming in. I don't know. What are you seeing? 50-50 in North Carolina? I wouldn't say if I still don't think it's 50-50. I think we're still more towards 60, 40 or even higher, at least in this area. Like if you go more into Charlotte, I think. you'll get pushed more to 50-50 or maybe even 55 towards her but over here i think we're

we're more in the uh 60 plus for him for trump yeah and what do you think i mean you guys you manage a restaurant you know donald trump is closing with the economy if you ask com la harris the first thing she'll say is what she's going to do for inflation setting aside the fact that she's been vice president for three and a half years so what is most important to you as someone who manages a restaurant like Sweet Spot. Well, here's a clear-cut example I could give you. We've been here for 11 plus years now, and in the first seven years, we raised menu prices two, possibly three times.

And that's because you used to do paper menus, too, and it would cost money to print out new paper menus. In the last three-and-a-half years, we have raised prices 18 times. Really? And have ditched the menus and gone to the QR code because you just can't keep up and can't afford it. I didn't think about when I go into restaurants and it's all QR code now, it's because you can't update the menu often enough to keep up with inflation. Yeah, just nobody could afford printing menus anymore.

So you do the QR code and you could just easily slide in there and adjust things on there and that could change prices daily. But like I say, 18 times in three plus years is that's just the easiest way to explain it to somebody. Like, yes, we have our vendor prices are high and all that stuff. So we have to force it over and increased wages. We have to force it over, but just giving that example of the menu price increases like that. Incredible. That explains it.

18 times in three and a half years. Thank you, Alex. Actually, I'm going to bring a million because she waits tables here for you here at the sweet spot. Amelia, come on over. Come on over. How are you today? Good. Are you excited about Election Day?

Oh, yeah. So excited. What is most important to you? What are you focused on today here in North Carolina? I'm focused on two things. One, tips so I can be rich as hell, right? And then, of course, the abortion. like we're pro-life, and so that's very important to me.

I just had a big debate about abortion with Barstil Sports Dave Portnoy, but so we'll set that one aside for a moment. Tips. So does that speak to you when Donald Trump says no tax on tips? Oh my gosh, yes. And don't start cheaping out, y'all. You're worried that if there's no tax on tips, people factor it in and reduce the tips? Yes.

I'm very worried about that. What is, by the way, I do 20. Well, that's good. That's good? I'm going to have 25%, 30% waitress, but yes, that's good. It used to be 15 was good service. I was like, okay, 15, that's what we do. But now if you put 15, you're like, it's an insult to the waiter or waitress.

It is. It is. 13%, 9%, anything, under 20 is an insult. Unless I sucked. And then that's okay. And what does 20 say? Just par for the course now. So if you're really good, I got to go to 25?

25, 30, 40, 50, like all that's good. And no, do not reduce it just because she may, depending on the results of today and this week, have no tax on tips. That's right. No, because I want to be rich as hell. Okay, thank you, Amelia. Appreciate you. There's some diners. There's some, not diners, but workers here at the sweet spot in Concord, North Carolina. Okay, so we're down to the final stretch here on the Wilcane show, the final 12 minutes of this two-hour expanded jumbo edition. We've had a huge show.

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You are the Willisha. All right. Now, in order to set us up for tonight in the final 10 minutes, I want to bring in Josh Crash Hour. He is the Fox News Radio political analyst. Josh knows what he's talking about. I'm sure, Josh, you've been in on early returns, early balloting, early voting. And while we're not talking polling on Election Day, while people are literally voting, we do know some things about the way people have already voted.

What does it tell you today about the race for president? Well, look, what we're learning is that Republicans are finding it much more comfortable to vote ahead of election day. And there's very strong turnout in many of the biggest battleground states across the board where Republicans are showing up. The voters that Republicans need to show up, the people who may not show up for your average election but want to show up for Donald Trump, they are turning out according to a lot of the early analyses of that early vote. So that is encouraging the Trump campaign. But I do caution your listeners that we don't know what Election Day turnout is going to look like. That's the big X factor.

We don't know how much of that early vote is coming from voters or otherwise would have already voted on election day. So there's a lot of known unknowns to quote the late Don Rumsfeld. we're going to be monitoring the results as they come in. I think we'll get a pretty good sense of things on the early side. Will, you're in one of the more important states because North Carolina, their polls close early. They count their votes fast. If Trump locks down North Carolina, it's probably a good sign of where a lot of the other southern sunbelt battlegrounds are going. If Harris can pick off North Carolina or if it's really close, that would be a sign that she maybe has opened up some other pathways to getting to 270 and winning the election.

So North Carolina is just a big state to watch. I want to do this with you in just a moment. We're going to set up the dominoes that may fall over tonight so that we can anticipate what will happen. But I'm listening to you talk about early returns. And every objective analysis that I have seen, Josh, would paint early returns in Georgia, in North Carolina, in Nevada, in Pennsylvania, in Pennsylvania, and I think very is a fair qualifier here. Very encouraging for Republicans. But there are two things that could happen, and I want you to correct me if this is wrong. As you point out, what happens on Election Day?

But Democrats do not have a history of winning Election Day. So if they're tasked with making up grounds today, that would be a historical. And second is, well, what happens, though, to the independence, right? So we know how many Republicans early voted. We know how many Democrats early voted. But what about the independence in which way that breaks, Harris or Trump? Those are crucial points, Will. And to point number one, we know that historically, it's the Democrats that turn out early

and they try to bank their votes as quickly as they can. But that said, 2020 was a pandemic year. So I hate to fully extrapolate and try to make apples to apples comparisons from 2020 to 2024. Because look, a lot of voters, especially Democrats, were worried, didn't want to show up at a polling place. So they mailed in their ballot. They may have voted early when it wasn't as crowded. we don't have that same situation this time around and the rules in some of the states

have changed like Nevada now allows for mail-in ballots. They change the rules. They change the way people vote. So there is a little bit of apples to oranges in a lot of the states. So I caution not to get too hung up on the early vote count. I think it's encouraging for Republicans,

not just because Republicans are showing up, but because the turnout among Democrats, like you mentioned will, it's down. So you can look at those elements and say that's an encouraging sign, but there's still a lot of known unknowns that make it hard to make any kind of firm predictions. As far as the independent vote go, I mean, that is the big X factor.

And the Harris campaign is hoping and looking at some polls to make their case that a lot of the independent voters may be tilting their way. And that's in a close race where you have partisans showing up in equal numbers and the independents are the wild card. That's going to make the difference in these key battleground states that are very, very close. I'm going to guess now, and you tell me if you like my guess or not, If we wake up tomorrow or Thursday or Friday and Donald Trump has been elected again, President of the United States, the story will be young men and overwhelming turnout for Republicans, combining early voting with what happens today, assuming it's not cannibalized, that it's a bunch of low propensity or new voters going the way of Donald Trump. First on Donald Trump, I would assume that would be the story, Josh.

If he wins, it's going to be about young men and overwhelming. turning turnout. If Trump wins, it will likely be because he changed the Republican Party, brought new voters on board. The big dynamic that I know you've talked about a lot of the show is that a lot of men, young men, Gen Z, voting Republican in a way that a lot of Democrats never saw coming a couple years ago, right? So that's a big bet that the Trump campaign has been making. They're pretty confident that they're trying to get some of these low propensity voters into the fold going, going their way. Working class, you know, the Democratic Party historical has been the party of the working class. Not anymore. And Trump has made, according to the polls, inroads with working class voters of all backgrounds. If that happens, like black men in Detroit, black men in the numbers and the margins and the turn, that could make a big difference when we look at the final results. What the Harris campaign is betting on is that they can run up the score with women and that they're going to do really well in the like suburban areas around, you know, the suburbs, not the urban, but the suburbs in Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee. If they make inroads,

If they run up the score, they do better than Biden did in 2020. They think they can make up some of the losses with those working class voters. So, and that's the story then if we wake up tomorrow or Thursday or Friday, and Kamala Harris has been elected president of the United States. I would assume, to your point, by the way, on the urban voter, which I don't like that term because it's a euphemism that disguises the truth. We're talking about the black and Latino vote, the minority vote. There's some indications that turnout among that cohort is lower than in the past.

your point of focus on suburban white women is on point, I would think. And if it is that she is elected president, the story and the explanation will be the vote of women. Yeah. I mean, the gender gap is historic when you look at the polls and you look at where both campaigns think things stand. Now, that could go both ways. If Trump actually does better with men, as some polls suggest that then Harris is doing with women, then that the gender gap would play to Trump's advantage. But we don't know. I mean, the polls are kind of all over the map. I think you generally see a slight advantage with women when it comes to the makeup of the overall electorate. They make up a slight majority. So really, Trump needs to run up the score with men.

He needs to almost expand that gender gap. It feels like both sides in the closing weeks have played more to their base rather than to bring some of the skeptical voters on their side. All right. Now to set up the dominoes here at the end on what could happen, you know, maybe tonight, but hopefully over the next 24, I hope, at the outset, 36 hours. And that is, to your point, we could have North Carolina tonight. We could have Georgia, I think, counts their vote pretty quickly as well. We could have Georgia tonight. It will be, I would assume, I want you to knock down the dominoes here,

is when do we hear about Pennsylvania? Well, look, this reminds me of watching the final week of the NFL season where you see which each side needs help, if they can control their own destiny or whether they need help from other states or, you know, you need to end up needing to sweep in the case of the Harris campaign, sweep those blue wall states if things don't look good in the early reporting states like North Carolina and Georgia. So in terms of the timeline, Will, I mean, I'm looking closely at North Carolina. If Harris ends up doing well there or ends up, you know, winning even North Carolina,

that means she doesn't need to win potentially all three of the Midwestern states. That would open up a lot of pathways for her. But if North Carolina goes Trump, if Georgia goes Trump, If we see go westward and the numbers look good for Trump out west, Nevada, Arizona coming on board, then that means there's a lot of pressure for Harris. She's got to run the table. She's got to run the table in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Especially Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are going to take their sweet time to report vote totals.

So we're going to probably, if it's a close race, be waiting into Wednesday perhaps to find out whether Trump or Harris win and whether, you know, this election is going to be contingent on those two key states. All right. Josh Crash Hour, Fox News, Radio, political analyst. Thank you so much for breaking it all down. So everybody's set up for tonight. Thanks, Josh, for being on the Will Kane show. Thanks, Will.

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